Wait? What? Now I’m all butt hurt. I never got an invitation. I only heard
about this list because someone posted it’s subscription info on the death
spirleing BlindTech list.





From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 3:26 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list



For the record, I did send out about 370 invitations in total.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list



179 members in a bit less than a week is not too bad. At least in my
opinion. If the number of members does not increase significantly over the
next 2 or 3 weeks, then some promotion might not be unreasonable, but just
keep in mind that some members already seem to be having a problem with the
amount of traffic.

----- Original Message -----

From: Robin Frost <mailto:robini71@...>

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list



Hi,

With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such. It’s been my
experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well
and left to their own devices and timing.

It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their
way here will in due course.

Robin





From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list



I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list. I'm not sure about
this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to
run an item about the list. Perhaps other list members would have other
suggestions. I would say to wait before sending announcements to various
places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in
many more members.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Robin Frost

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:45 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Hi,

I agree blind bargains and top tech tidbits are both good places to get mentions.

Robin

 

From: john schwery

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:17 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

Gene, J. J. from blind bargains might put in a spot.



earlier, Gene, wrote:

I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Cristóbal

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:40 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Wait? What? Now I’m all butt hurt. I never got an invitation. I only heard about this list because someone posted it’s subscription info on the death spirleing BlindTech list.

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 3:26 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

For the record, I did send out about 370 invitations in total.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

179 members in a bit less than a week is not too bad.  At least in my opinion.  If the number of members does not increase significantly over the next 2 or 3 weeks, then some promotion might not be unreasonable, but just keep in mind that some members already seem to be having a problem with the amount of traffic.

----- Original Message -----

From: Robin Frost

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

Hi,

With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such.  It’s been my experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well and left to their own devices and timing.

It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their way here will in due course.

Robin

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:34 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Hi Carlos and list,

 

I like a lot of traffic.  The more questions and answers that come in to my TechTalk  folder, the more opportunities I have to learn as a computer user.  And, eventually, the more opportunities I will have to assist others.  I can always hit the delete key if I am not interested in a topic.

 

Many thanks to Carlos and all who work to make this list work so well.

 

James

 

 

 

From: Carlos

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 5:21 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

179 members in a bit less than a week is not too bad.  At least in my opinion.  If the number of members does not increase significantly over the next 2 or 3 weeks, then some promotion might not be unreasonable, but just keep in mind that some members already seem to be having a problem with the amount of traffic.

----- Original Message -----

From: Robin Frost

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

Hi,

With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such.  It’s been my experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well and left to their own devices and timing.

It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their way here will in due course.

Robin

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.

 

Gene

Hi, Windows defender is not accessible.
Joseph Hudson
Email
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I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
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On Sep 4, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Monica Jones <monicaj391@...> wrote:

I opened Defender on my computer a week or so ago and couldn't get
anything from it. Jaws wasn't giving me any information; I couldn't tell
if something was keeping it from working, or, or it just wasn't
accessible. I had heard someone say before that it was, so I wanted to see
what it does.


-----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:03 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with Microsoft security essentials

This is interesting information. Just this afternoon, we contacted
Freedom
Scientific, because my McAfee that came with the computer is about to
expire. My husband has been pleased with Windows Defender for nearly two
years. He wanted to be sure that there would be no conflict with JAWS,
and
he and I both talked to Eric in Customer Service, who said that Windows
Defender and JAWS were compatible. I wonder if there is something else
more
JAWS friendly. I tried to find that out from him, but I can understand
his
position. He can say if something will or won't work, but cannot endorse
anything, since his job is support for JAWS.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Blaster [mailto:blaster@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 7:40 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

My scan slows down at the same general area, 85%. Then out of nowhere it
starts back up at normal speed and finishes. just let it run a while and
see if it completes the scans.

Blaster







Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52
Skype, Monnirose52
Facebook, Monica Rose Jones

and he acknowledges it too:

"Note: some people use the software of bryanSmart, but I recommend its
modified version by Carlos."

He follows that statement with a Sendspace link.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing windows with speech


LOL I'll have to look through the article again. I didn't notice that.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing windows with speech


I'm not sure, but it looks like one of the links in the article is
pointing to an upload of your version of the PE. haha
If not, it does at least make reference to it. :P
http://helpbird.blogspot.com/
Making a small assumption on his talking about making images of a
system,
I'm guessing that he's using the same activ@ tool that's in your version,
anyways.
Neat to see how many people are starting to become familiar with it.
Pretty shweet. haha
Tc.

On 9/3/2015 2:15 PM, Carlos wrote:

The answer is that there is basically no difference. It is simply a
variation/different build of the same thing. A PE AKA Preinstallation
Environment. Although obviously there may be different utilities included
and default settings used. You can download my personal images and the
associated documentation here.
http://opopanax.net/download/
And since this is a new list with some possibly new members, thanks to
Rob Hudson for hosting the files.
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing windows with speech


Hi, our own Carlos has one he has made! Don’t know how to compare
them
to each other . So maybe Carlos can chine in and explain more on his
talking
pre installer.





Thanks,

Matt.from.florida@...



From: Kimsan Song [mailto:kimsansong@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 2:46 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] installing windows with speech



Has anyone seen this?

http://www.handiham.org/drupal2/node/436





Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

179 members in a bit less than a week is not too bad.  At least in my opinion.  If the number of members does not increase significantly over the next 2 or 3 weeks, then some promotion might not be unreasonable, but just keep in mind that some members already seem to be having a problem with the amount of traffic.

----- Original Message -----

From: Robin Frost

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

Hi,

With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such.  It’s been my experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well and left to their own devices and timing.

It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their way here will in due course.

Robin

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.

 

Gene

When I downloaded the file from the link sent by Carlos, I got a .exe file. Is this correct?

MP  iPhone  and  iPadEssentialTrainingforISOAudioMPGBzip__15047_i1624187163_il2565304.exe

If this is the correct file, how do I use it?

TerriLynne

and he acknowledges it too:

"Note: some people use the software of bryanSmart, but I recommend its
modified version by Carlos."

He follows that statement with a Sendspace link.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing windows with speech


LOL I'll have to look through the article again. I didn't notice that.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing windows with speech


I'm not sure, but it looks like one of the links in the article is
pointing to an upload of your version of the PE. haha
If not, it does at least make reference to it. :P
http://helpbird.blogspot.com/
Making a small assumption on his talking about making images of a system,
I'm guessing that he's using the same activ@ tool that's in your version,
anyways.
Neat to see how many people are starting to become familiar with it.
Pretty shweet. haha
Tc.

On 9/3/2015 2:15 PM, Carlos wrote:

The answer is that there is basically no difference. It is simply a
variation/different build of the same thing. A PE AKA Preinstallation
Environment. Although obviously there may be different utilities included
and default settings used. You can download my personal images and the
associated documentation here.
http://opopanax.net/download/
And since this is a new list with some possibly new members, thanks to
Rob Hudson for hosting the files.
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing windows with speech


Hi, our own Carlos has one he has made! Don’t know how to compare them
to each other . So maybe Carlos can chine in and explain more on his talking
pre installer.





Thanks,

Matt.from.florida@...



From: Kimsan Song [mailto:kimsansong@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 2:46 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] installing windows with speech



Has anyone seen this?

http://www.handiham.org/drupal2/node/436





Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

179 members in a bit less than a week is not too bad.  At least in my opinion.  If the number of members does not increase significantly over the next 2 or 3 weeks, then some promotion might not be unreasonable, but just keep in mind that some members already seem to be having a problem with the amount of traffic.

----- Original Message -----

From: Robin Frost

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Hi,

With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such.  It’s been my experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well and left to their own devices and timing.

It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their way here will in due course.

Robin

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Robin Frost

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Hi,

With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such.  It’s been my experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well and left to their own devices and timing.

It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their way here will in due course.

Robin

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

 

I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.

 

Gene

I seem to be getting on the Desktop this morning. I think there could have
been some kind of fluke yesterday.
would work.
Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@...]
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 5:03 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] test

Hi Don. Thought I saw you on other lists. smiles Welcome.

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
<http://www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920>
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com <http://www.denverqueen.com> for
more information.
On 9/4/2015 12:47 AM, don wardlow wrote:


Test 1 2 3 thanks.

I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.
 
Gene

Their stuff at Hadley is very good. They have seminars and such on a whole bunch of things.
I think you'll find them beneficial.


-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:03 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Oh, yes, I must check out these, I am a student at Hadley and keep telling myself to watch their iFocus video tutorials but forget to actually do it smile.
Chris

On 4 Sep 2015, at 00:06, Donna <mermaid7@...> wrote:

Hi

Sorry, I haven't followed this thread from the start. So my suggestion may not be what is being requested. Anyway, YouTube has video tutorials on there done by Hadley school. These tutorials are very indepth and are easy to follow.  Some of the things that are covered are the gestures used with voiceover, using seri & using dictation.

I apologize if this off topic for this thread.

Also some Apple stores offer classes for beginner iDevice users. One will have to call and inquire and schedule a time for a class.

Donna

On Sep 3, 2015, at 5:23 PM, rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hi,

Well, sorry, I should have clarified, I'm more interested within IPhones and IPads as of now. I will probably choose the windows path over the Mac, though. I feel like windows is more opened.

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt <matt..from.florida@...>

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:17 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Hi, check out the blind geek zone site. It has lots of podcast on the Mac

by a person called Mike you can also check out the BCT )Blind Cool Tech )

archives on the site as well it has podcast on the mac as well by mike and

others. I will post the link to the BGZ site. Also check out the

Mac4theblind list and site it has lots of helpful members and such on the

site by John the owner of the site and email list. See links below.

http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/

http://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind

this next link is Apple vis podcast interview with John and I think you will

find some good info in it as well. John owns the mac4theblind.

http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast778.mp3

Also check out David Woodbridge podcast as well just google them or go to

Vision Australia site and you can find them there. See link to him and

Vision Australia  below.

http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/learning-to-live-indep

endently/using-technology-and-computers/help-yourself!-technology-podcasts-a

nd-resources/computer-access

Thanks,

Matt.from.florida@...

-----Original Message-----

From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:52 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Hi,

OK, thanks. Any apple  getting started audio? I already checked applevis,

miserably failed. And I already checked the android getting started. I now

want to check out apple.

----- Original Message -----

From: Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...>

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 9:40 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

They are only written tutorials. Well worth a read though.

On 3 Sep 2015, at 21:39, rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hi,

Does that voiceover-easy.net only have written, or do they have audio

tutorials?

----- Original Message -----

From: Terry Scott <terryscott@...>

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 8:59 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Hi I found this is a grate place also. Voiceover Easy Home Page

Sent from a Braille Sense

Sent from a Braille Sense

Sent from a Braille Sense

Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52
Skype, Monnirose52
Facebook, Monica Rose Jones

I agree.  I've also been a moderator and if people don't agree or there is a miscomunication things can get hary but, I must say Carlos, you're doing an excelent job.  You're not coming down hard on someone if they shouldn't have posted something.  People don't like that as we've found out on the other list smiles.  Just carry on the way you're doing and, there seem to be a lot of people who will give you advice.
 
Amanda

From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 8:43 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Assigning admins/moderators, was: (Directed messages)

Hi Joseph,
I appreciate the offer and I may or may not assign moderators at some point, but for now I would like the experience of doing it myself before handing over the responsibility to someone else.  Especially since this is my first time running a mail list.  Also, I think choosing a moderator is something that should be done with caution and careful consideration.  Too often I have seen problems caused when a moderator says something or handles a particular situation in a manner that conflicts with the opinion of the list owner.  If the correct person is not chosen and the moderator and list owner do not communicate or are simply not of like minds, I believe this is inevitable.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 3:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages

Hey Carlos, you make me an admin I'll help you full your rules. I've done this to Chris already a couple of times. Talking about Chris Holdsworth.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@...

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook..com/joseph.hudson.9404

Twitter

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Sep 4, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

I agree with this and I would also like to emphasize keeping subject lines consistent in general.  I.E. If you would like to begin a different discussion, simply start with a new message.  Or if what you have to say is at least related to the thread to which you are responding, but may significantly side track the conversation, at least change the subject to reflect this.  I will have to work to follow this rule myself since I have not always been careful enough in this respect.

----- Original Message -----

From: Donald L. Roberts

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:58 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Directed messages

Believe me, it is not my desire to cause a problem.  But I am starting to see a problem on this list that frustrated me on the other list, specifically Blindtech.  I am talking about the practice of directing messages to a specific individual in the subject line.  I respectfully suggest that if anyone wants to direct his message to an individual that he do so via private email.  I say that because it screws up the sorting of threads badly when the actual subject is preceeded by the name of an individual.

 

Don Roberts

 

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