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<sigh> FF got updated.

Ann Parsons <akp@...>
 

Morning all,

FF got updated and now Web Visum has been turned off. How do I reinstate it? Do I need Momolo or whatever it's called? Please advise, thanks.

Yes, I know it was discussed about three weeks ago, but I deleted the msgs. I thought it didn't apply to me! Arrrrghghgh!!!

Ann P.

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Re: android queries

Laz
 

They're in alphabetical order. For example Marshmallow is a higher
version than Lollipop which in turn is higher than KitKat, etc. I hope
that clears up the names somewhat.

Laz

On 2/13/16, Melissa Hammitt <mjmarney@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks all for the info.
The using of names instead of version numbers is confusing.... To me
it seemed like each name was a different type of OS. If I remember
right it is linux based and linux has, to my knowledge, a few
different types too. Right now I can only remember Red Hat and that is
because I learned it 10+ years ago and it was version 6 or 7 I think.
Don't ask me anything about it now though because like most things I
can learn fast if I don't use it it sinks into my brain and the info
is only triggered by trivia questions or the right phrases, haha. I'm
really good at Jeopardy~


On 2/12/16, Øyvind Lode <oyvind.lode@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.

KitKat, Lollipop, Marshmallow and so on is only code names or release
names instead of android 4.4, android 5.x and 6.x.

Android phones is called android phones because they are running the
android operating system.

I'm running android 6.0.1 also called marshmallow on my Nexus 6P which
is the latest version of android.
Galaxy S5 is a Samsung device and the UI is different from my device.

Talkback is included in the android OS on most devices including Samsung.

For more info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29

or android.com

Please let me know if you have further questions.

On 12 February 2016 at 07:09, Melissa Hammitt <mjmarney@gmail.com> wrote:
I was just curious about the subject and didn't tfind a link that
basically broke it all down for me.
What I was wondering was: what OS do android phones use? I've heard
the names marshmellow, kitKat, raspberry pie , and lollipop. What
the heck is the difference? If there aren't quick answers I wouldn't
mind if someone just gave me a link to find out the answers.
I was curious because ever since I started using a smart phone I have
used an iPhone and while I think they're great it doesn't help me when
the other members of my family have android phones. (namely galaxy 5
or something like that.) Do you have to download talkback (I think
that is the name) or does it already come with the phone? Are their
different versions which work differently with the other candy
sounding names of OSs?
Are the settings basically the same across phones or do they change
when the brand of phone does?






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Re: Problem with sending files via email on BrailleNote Apex

Armando <braille.bt4753@...>
 

Okay, I will try that. Thanks.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:58:32 +0000
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem with sending files via email on BrailleNote Apex

Hi,
If this sounds mean, forgive me. But how, exactly, would you
like a teacher to open a braille file, with something like word
or notepad? That explains why its protected, since windows has no
ideas what to do with a humanware braille file. Convert it into
DOC, and resend.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Armando" <braille.bt4753@gmx.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:55:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem with sending files via email on
BrailleNote Apex

Sorry for that. I have a problem with KeyMail. I had a homework
assignment due today. And when my teacher opens the document, it
says it is protected. I don't know how it got protected. I
attached a diskwb file and converted to a disrtf document. How
do I get the file unprotected before sending it to the teacher
via email.
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----- Original Message -----
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To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:16:24 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Problem with sending files via email on
BrailleNote Apex

Hi.
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Re: Problem with sending files via email on BrailleNote Apex

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi,
If this sounds mean, forgive me. But how, exactly, would you like a teacher to open a braille file, with something like word or notepad? That explains why its protected, since windows has no ideas what to do with a humanware braille file. Convert it into DOC, and resend.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Armando" <braille.bt4753@gmx.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:55:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem with sending files via email on BrailleNote Apex

Sorry for that. I have a problem with KeyMail. I had a homework
assignment due today. And when my teacher opens the document, it
says it is protected. I don't know how it got protected. I
attached a diskwb file and converted to a disrtf document. How
do I get the file unprotected before sending it to the teacher
via email.
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To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:16:24 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Problem with sending files via email on
BrailleNote Apex

Hi.
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Re: Owner's Note (replying to threads)

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi Carlos,
Its a reasonable request, I'd want it, too.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:30:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)

I agree. Like I said most people would just ignore such a tedious rule so I
won't attempt to impose or enforce it. My only request was basically that
people not either manually or via their client settings remove the text of
the original message.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)


Hi,
With all respect, wouldn't cutting and pasting, just, to get a particular
reply across be a little tedious? I, for one, would not do it. There's a
pause key on the keyboard, after all, and after all, the message is there,
everyone can take as much, or as little as they wish. Just my opinion,
for whatever its worth.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@samobile.net
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:01:14 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)

Hi all,

On the Apex, one is asked if one wishes to include the original text of
the previous message. This is the question to which the answer is yes.

Just a comment here, that it is really, really aggravating to me when
people requote an entire thread over and over and over and over and
orver again. I would far rather see the list owners adopt a policy of
judicious quoting. Trains of more than two messages are cumbersome,
and especially in a technical list of this kind which is archived, can
make searching archives difficult.

Ann P.

Original message:
That is interesting. I would have expected "reply to sender" to work as
it does in other clients on mailing lists which is to use the default
setting of the group.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)

I haven't used an Apex but that sounds incorrect. Reply to sender would
be expected to try to send the reply to an indeividual list member, not
to the list. You don't want to change where the message is sent. you
want to leave previously quoted material in the message. You may have
the Apex set to remove all previous material when you reply. The point
is to leave either all material or to at least leave the message you
are responding to in the reply.
Gene

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Re: FW: [Groups.io] how not to receive your own post

Carlos
 

Yes, I clarified this point in a private message to the owner of groups.io. The problem is that the location of the checkbox is not immediately obvious if you don't know where to look. You have to click on the
"Profile"
link on the main page after clicking your name to expand for more options and then on a second link which is also named
"Profile"
Mark the owner agrees that this is potentially confusing so the second link may possibly be renamed at some point.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: [Groups.io] how not to receive your own post


Hello,
With IOS, it was extremely hard to even get to profile, but with IE6, I succeeded, and can instantly locate the box.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:44:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: [Groups.io] how not to receive your own post

That is interesting, but somewhat buggy. There is a
"Profile"
link on the main groups.io page. You first have to click on your name and it expands to offer additional options, but that
"Profile"
link does not take you to the same place as the one he gave you. It doesn't seem as if there's a direct link to that one which is probably a bug.
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:56 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Re: FW: [Groups.io] how not to receive your own post


Just for those that is wondering how to stop or start you getting your own post see below from IOS group support!







Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Mark Fletcher (Groups.io) [mailto:support@groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:30 PM
To: Matt
Subject: [Groups.io] Re: how not to receive your own post



##- Please type your reply above this line -##

Your request (982) has been updated. To add additional comments, reply to this email.


Mark Fletcher (Groups.io)

Feb 10, 10:30

Hello Matt,

To stop Gmail from showing you your own post, go into your profile, at https://groups.io/editprofile?page=profile and look at the bottom for the checkbox 'I always want copies of my own messages'. Uncheck that and you should be good to go.

I'm not sure I understand your second question. What would the acknowledgment look like? Is that an email that you receive saying "We got your post?"

Thanks,
Mark






Matt

Feb 9, 16:06

A couple of things one I have looked everywhere to stop getting my own post to the list! I cannot find it nowhere! So where do you find this at? I am subscribe to TechTalk and TechTalk chat groups!

The other thing if you could add the feature so you get an acknowledgment of your post but not your post would be nice! This feature is on a lots of group list but this is not an option here.

Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



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Re: FW: [Groups.io] how not to receive your own post

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
With IOS, it was extremely hard to even get to profile, but with IE6, I succeeded, and can instantly locate the box.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:44:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: [Groups.io] how not to receive your own post

That is interesting, but somewhat buggy. There is a
"Profile"
link on the main groups.io page. You first have to click on your name and it expands to offer additional options, but that
"Profile"
link does not take you to the same place as the one he gave you. It doesn't seem as if there's a direct link to that one which is probably a bug.
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:56 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Re: FW: [Groups.io] how not to receive your own post


Just for those that is wondering how to stop or start you getting your own post see below from IOS group support!







Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Mark Fletcher (Groups.io) [mailto:support@groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:30 PM
To: Matt
Subject: [Groups.io] Re: how not to receive your own post



##- Please type your reply above this line -##

Your request (982) has been updated. To add additional comments, reply to this email.


Mark Fletcher (Groups.io)

Feb 10, 10:30

Hello Matt,

To stop Gmail from showing you your own post, go into your profile, at https://groups.io/editprofile?page=profile and look at the bottom for the checkbox 'I always want copies of my own messages'. Uncheck that and you should be good to go.

I'm not sure I understand your second question. What would the acknowledgment look like? Is that an email that you receive saying "We got your post?"

Thanks,
Mark






Matt

Feb 9, 16:06

A couple of things one I have looked everywhere to stop getting my own post to the list! I cannot find it nowhere! So where do you find this at? I am subscribe to TechTalk and TechTalk chat groups!

The other thing if you could add the feature so you get an acknowledgment of your post but not your post would be nice! This feature is on a lots of group list but this is not an option here.

Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



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Re: Owner's Note (replying to threads)

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
Hmm, hmm, hmm. Old text adventures, anyone? Tells you the location, press any key to continue. Hmm, hmm, hmm.
Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom@optonline.net
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:00:14 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)

Yes, I remember that old joke about "press any key to continue: Where's the
any key?" Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 9:01 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)

LOL or that pesky "any" key. Till this day I still haven't found that one!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)


Yes totally agree! Common sense would tell you not to tell a sited person
the Jaws key ! for example you would tell them the insert and F4 key to
close out jaws not the jaws key and F4 . As the sited would not know what
the heck a jaws key is! They would be looking everywhere on the keyboard
for
one!


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 8:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)

As you say it is a matter of point of view, but your objection seems to be
based on the idea of using the term without explanation. My point is that
it should be, and can be, easily explained. If it is explained clearly,
it
should be understood that it refers to the Insert or CapsLock key, and
that
there is no such thing as a literal JAWS key. Not so difficult to grasp
if
it is explained clearly or even repeatedly if necessary like instruction
of
any kind. With that understanding firmly in mind, I would never use the
term JAWS key when requesting assistance from a sighted person. Logically
I
would assume that they might not even be very familiar with JAWS in
general,
never mind the concept of a JAWS key.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@samobile.net
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)


Hi all,

Interesting comments here. It is a difference in teaching methods, I
think. The problem I see here is that when one refers to The Jaws Key
without any explanation, it leaves the impression that the keyboard
actually has a key on it that is labeled Jaws. this can be confusing to
some who change keyboards or move from a laptop to a desktop. It can
be confusing for a sighted friend or parent who is trying to help
someone who is blind. There is no "Jaws Key" on any keyboard for any
computer. It's not there, simply not there.

If a student knows that The Insert Key is acting as the Jaws Modifier
Key, that is all that concerns me, however, I have seen many folks who
don't understand this concept.

It is also, and this may be my own point of view, it implies that all
keyboards will have a Jaws Key.

<smiling> Perhaps it is just a difference in point of view. It's
probably not worth more messages about it.

Ann P.
or
Original message:
I honestly don't see why this is such a big issue. Once you
understand why the term is used, it shouldn't be that difficult to
remember. There are many aspects to using a computer which will be
much more challenging than simply remembering that JAWS key refers
to either Insert or CapsLock.
To a
certain point I can understand why some might believe it would be
confusing, but making such a mountain out of a molehill in my mind is
almost insulting to the student. It implies that a student is
somehow incapable of grasping or too stupid to remember such a simple
concept. Many third-party applications will have their own quirks
you may have to grasp to use them effectively. This is minor in
comparison.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom@optonline.net
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)


I had heard of that when I was learning computer stuff, but when my
teacher told me that people tend to refer to it as that, she
admonished me not to.
I don't have a hard time with that, since I hardly have ever used jaws.
Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 10:50 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)

I never heard of the Insert Key being called the JAWS Key until
being on these lists, starting last summer.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
[mailto:ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com]
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 11:39 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Owner's Note (replying to threads)

Matt, I think the Insert-Shift-R keystroke is Jaws specific and may
not work using a different screen reader. Most blind folks DON'T
SEEM to know the difference between a regular Windows keystroke and
the specific ones for their screen reader of choice. A good example
is when the Insert key is being referred to as the Jaws key; I think
the correct terminology should have been the Modified Jaws key. A
few clients I've tried to assist in the past had a hard time
distinguishing between the Insert key and the Jaws key.



Sincerely,

Olusegun

Denver, Colorado















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Re: window shopping

Gerald Levy
 

 
Okay, here’s the $64 question.  How do you find a reliable and honest service techician to fix your broken computer?  I don’t know anyone who has had a positive experience with Geek Squad, whose future is unclear, anyway, because it looks like its parent, Best Buy, may soon be going bye-bye if rumors about its impending bankruptcy filing turn out to be true.  I suppose you could search on the web for technicians in your area, but how do you know how trustworthy they are? 
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping
 

Another company I try to do business with here is called Action Computers!  Here’s my story about this company if I can ever keep it brief:

 

I was heading out of town to meet my dearest teacher, Mrs. Pamela Field in Hampden, Connecticut.  So I put a login password on my laptop, left it alone and headed out for two weeks of fun with my teacher and her family and a number of nonconformist pals like me along the East coast.  All that was good!  Believing and thinking that I was smart, I did not write down the password.  I thought I’ll remember it!  Upon return to my coveted bush where the sun shines for 300 days a year, I turned on my laptop and, you guess it, I didn’t remember my password!  Yikes!  Worst still, I didn’t have any app I could use to bypass the password requirement to get into my laptop.

 

Well, I took it to Action Computers and asked them to help demystify my stupidity.  Yes, they could.  I had to leave my computer with them for a day.  I showed them how to turn off my screen reader so it doesn’t get in the way. 

 

The following day, they called to tell me that my screen was bad and they needed to run some kind of diagnostics to identify the problem with my screen.  Hmm, I foolishly fell for it.  Now they tagged an additional $49.99 to the $25 they were going to charge for demystifying my password issue.  Two hours later on the pick up day, they called back to tell me that my laptop’s screen was damaged, it would cost $125.99 for a brand-new LCD screen. 

 

What!  I only paid $359 and change for this laptop; I don’t want to spend over $200 to fix a simple problem.  So I told them to just demystify my original problem and forget about a new LCD display.  I can’t see it anyway, so, if it dies and my computer still boots up, I am cool with that. 

 

Three hours passed, they did the job and I got a call to come by and grab my toy!  Off I went to grab my toy and wishing the LCD screen peaceful rest. 

 

A pair of eyes came by; I needed to have them check something for me on the screen and proceeded to connect an external CRT.  Well, the pair of eyes told me not to bother … Your screen works just fine!  That can’t be true …  I’ve just been told it needed replacement and I wasn’t willing to pay for it.  No, it’s not true, I can see your screen clearly, no need for an external CRT. 

 

If you read my story to this point, you now know why I should learn to be a writer and quit being a nonconformist <smile>!  And I am not good at cutting a long, long story short!  I’ll have Carlos train me on that one when he has a brief minute!  Anyway, I’ll be more careful when I go to Action Computers as they remind me too much of GeekSquad!  To this very minute as I type, the lights still come on on my laptop’s screen, it isn’t dead yet and I am glad I didn’t bite the last bait even though I hungrily bit and chewed on the first.

 

Sincerely,

Olusegun

Denver, Colorado 




Re: Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
Your home page. Its just a check box. If not, try profile.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:31:03 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address

Ok, I went up so I could change not to receive my own emails for a while anyhow and see how I like that . But where do you find this at? It is not there anymore as far as I can see on either list. I looked under subscription and advance subscription and nothing there. So where did they hide it at?





<mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com> Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 5:02 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



LOL as I said, request the feature on the beta list. The owner is pretty open to implementing reasonable feature requests.

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt <mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 4:56 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



Yes it was years ago you would not but now I have been receiving my own emails when I choose to have them done like that. Most of the list I don�셳 get my own emails I get a notification that my email has been posted to the list instead. I think this is the only list that I don�셳 have this option and get my own emails instead. That is tech chat and tech talk. It would be nice to just have a notification rather than my own email !





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 3:30 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



I believe that issue was resolved on groups.io. I subscribed with a Gmail address at one point and received my own messages.

----- Original Message -----

From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@optonline.net

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



If you create a gmail account, it is likely you won�셳 see your messages with that. There is supposed to be some kind of a workaround, but I don�셳 remember it. But just creating the gmail account won�셳 let your messages come through to your own email. Pam.



From: Matt <mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 3:57 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



Well. that or the list has so many emails coming thru that Verizon has black listed this list and you might have to call and see if they have and if you can get them to take it off! If all else fells just create a Gmail account .





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 3:48 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



Also, the providers being used by those not receiving mail may be placing it in the spam folders of those peoples' online accounts. They might be able to see the messages if they looked in the spam folder using their on line web mail service. They may have to tell their spam filter that the messages aren't spam. If this sort of thing is beyond the knowledge of those list members, perhaps they should contact their providers.



Just because the messages aren't reaching their dcomputers doesn't mean that they are not being received. They may be being stopped at the provider's spam filter.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:02 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



I don't believe so based on his next few messages. The problem must be on
Verizon's end unless the owner of groups.io has any thoughts to the
contrary.
----- Original Message -----
From: "MamaPeach" <mamapeach@charter.net
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon
Address


Yes, they make it to the archives, but not to some people's inboxes. Same
problem here. Did he figure out how to fix it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:17 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon
Address

Gerald was having this problem and Verizon is his ISP. Although it seemed
more like his messages were reaching the list in general, but not his
inbox.
----- Original Message -----
From: "MamaPeach" <mamapeach@charter.net
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address


Has anyone on this list that is subscribed with Verizon notice that your
messages never show up on the list? I just started a subgroup of my
recipe
list and for some weird reason, one person that is subscribed with
Verizon
tries to post, but not everyone receives her messages. Some do, some
don't.
I am one of those who never sees her messages, which makes it more weird
because I am the owner of the list and should receive all posts from all
members. I have contacted groups.io support and tried to explain to them
what is happening, but they haven't given me any answers yet.


Re: Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

I'd want a notification, too, but not my email.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:56:26 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address

Yes it was years ago you would not but now I have been receiving my own emails when I choose to have them done like that. Most of the list I don�셳 get my own emails I get a notification that my email has been posted to the list instead. I think this is the only list that I don�셳 have this option and get my own emails instead. That is tech chat and tech talk. It would be nice to just have a notification rather than my own email !





<mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com> Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 3:30 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



I believe that issue was resolved on groups.io. I subscribed with a Gmail address at one point and received my own messages.

----- Original Message -----

From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@optonline.net

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



If you create a gmail account, it is likely you won�셳 see your messages with that. There is supposed to be some kind of a workaround, but I don�셳 remember it. But just creating the gmail account won�셳 let your messages come through to your own email. Pam.



From: Matt <mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 3:57 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



Well. that or the list has so many emails coming thru that Verizon has black listed this list and you might have to call and see if they have and if you can get them to take it off! If all else fells just create a Gmail account .





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 3:48 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



Also, the providers being used by those not receiving mail may be placing it in the spam folders of those peoples' online accounts. They might be able to see the messages if they looked in the spam folder using their on line web mail service. They may have to tell their spam filter that the messages aren't spam. If this sort of thing is beyond the knowledge of those list members, perhaps they should contact their providers.



Just because the messages aren't reaching their dcomputers doesn't mean that they are not being received. They may be being stopped at the provider's spam filter.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:02 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



I don't believe so based on his next few messages. The problem must be on
Verizon's end unless the owner of groups.io has any thoughts to the
contrary.
----- Original Message -----
From: "MamaPeach" <mamapeach@charter.net
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon
Address


Yes, they make it to the archives, but not to some people's inboxes. Same
problem here. Did he figure out how to fix it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:17 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon
Address

Gerald was having this problem and Verizon is his ISP. Although it seemed
more like his messages were reaching the list in general, but not his
inbox.
----- Original Message -----
From: "MamaPeach" <mamapeach@charter.net
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address


Has anyone on this list that is subscribed with Verizon notice that your
messages never show up on the list? I just started a subgroup of my
recipe
list and for some weird reason, one person that is subscribed with
Verizon
tries to post, but not everyone receives her messages. Some do, some
don't.
I am one of those who never sees her messages, which makes it more weird
because I am the owner of the list and should receive all posts from all
members. I have contacted groups.io support and tried to explain to them
what is happening, but they haven't given me any answers yet.


Re: Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
With groups.io, it will.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom@optonline.net
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:25:23 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address

If you create a gmail account, it is likely you won't see your messages with that. There is supposed to be some kind of a workaround, but I don't remember it. But just creating the gmail account won't let your messages come through to your own email. Pam.

From: Matt
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 3:57 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address

Well. that or the list has so many emails coming thru that Verizon has black listed this list and you might have to call and see if they have and if you can get them to take it off! If all else fells just create a Gmail account .





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 3:48 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



Also, the providers being used by those not receiving mail may be placing it in the spam folders of those peoples' online accounts. They might be able to see the messages if they looked in the spam folder using their on line web mail service. They may have to tell their spam filter that the messages aren't spam. If this sort of thing is beyond the knowledge of those list members, perhaps they should contact their providers.



Just because the messages aren't reaching their dcomputers doesn't mean that they are not being received. They may be being stopped at the provider's spam filter.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:02 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address



I don't believe so based on his next few messages. The problem must be on
Verizon's end unless the owner of groups.io has any thoughts to the
contrary.
----- Original Message -----
From: "MamaPeach" <mamapeach@charter.net
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon
Address


Yes, they make it to the archives, but not to some people's inboxes. Same
problem here. Did he figure out how to fix it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:17 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon
Address

Gerald was having this problem and Verizon is his ISP. Although it seemed
more like his messages were reaching the list in general, but not his
inbox.
----- Original Message -----
From: "MamaPeach" <mamapeach@charter.net
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Question For Members Subscribed With A Verizon Address


Has anyone on this list that is subscribed with Verizon notice that your
messages never show up on the list? I just started a subgroup of my
recipe
list and for some weird reason, one person that is subscribed with
Verizon
tries to post, but not everyone receives her messages. Some do, some
don't.
I am one of those who never sees her messages, which makes it more weird
because I am the owner of the list and should receive all posts from all
members. I have contacted groups.io support and tried to explain to them
what is happening, but they haven't given me any answers yet.


Re: Documents folder

Carlos
 

I believe the bluetooth folder is created automatically when a bluetooth transceiver is detected.  If you were to initiate a transfer via bluetooth with a capable device, that is where files would be saved by default.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Brett
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:55 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Documents folder

When i am in my documents folder i have a bluetooth folder why?


Mark Brett

Sent from my iPhone
SMS: 07962432222
Phone: 08432086070
Zello: markbrett1
Skype markbrett1


Documents folder

Mark Brett
 

When i am in my documents folder i have a bluetooth folder why?


Mark Brett

Sent from my iPhone
SMS: 07962432222
Phone: 08432086070
Zello: markbrett1
Skype markbrett1


Re: window shopping

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Another company I try to do business with here is called Action Computers!  Here’s my story about this company if I can ever keep it brief:

 

I was heading out of town to meet my dearest teacher, Mrs. Pamela Field in Hampden, Connecticut.  So I put a login password on my laptop, left it alone and headed out for two weeks of fun with my teacher and her family and a number of nonconformist pals like me along the East coast.  All that was good!  Believing and thinking that I was smart, I did not write down the password.  I thought I’ll remember it!  Upon return to my coveted bush where the sun shines for 300 days a year, I turned on my laptop and, you guess it, I didn’t remember my password!  Yikes!  Worst still, I didn’t have any app I could use to bypass the password requirement to get into my laptop.

 

Well, I took it to Action Computers and asked them to help demystify my stupidity.  Yes, they could.  I had to leave my computer with them for a day.  I showed them how to turn off my screen reader so it doesn’t get in the way. 

 

The following day, they called to tell me that my screen was bad and they needed to run some kind of diagnostics to identify the problem with my screen.  Hmm, I foolishly fell for it.  Now they tagged an additional $49.99 to the $25 they were going to charge for demystifying my password issue.  Two hours later on the pick up day, they called back to tell me that my laptop’s screen was damaged, it would cost $125.99 for a brand-new LCD screen. 

 

What!  I only paid $359 and change for this laptop; I don’t want to spend over $200 to fix a simple problem.  So I told them to just demystify my original problem and forget about a new LCD display.  I can’t see it anyway, so, if it dies and my computer still boots up, I am cool with that. 

 

Three hours passed, they did the job and I got a call to come by and grab my toy!  Off I went to grab my toy and wishing the LCD screen peaceful rest. 

 

A pair of eyes came by; I needed to have them check something for me on the screen and proceeded to connect an external CRT.  Well, the pair of eyes told me not to bother … Your screen works just fine!  That can’t be true …  I’ve just been told it needed replacement and I wasn’t willing to pay for it.  No, it’s not true, I can see your screen clearly, no need for an external CRT. 

 

If you read my story to this point, you now know why I should learn to be a writer and quit being a nonconformist <smile>!  And I am not good at cutting a long, long story short!  I’ll have Carlos train me on that one when he has a brief minute!  Anyway, I’ll be more careful when I go to Action Computers as they remind me too much of GeekSquad!  To this very minute as I type, the lights still come on on my laptop’s screen, it isn’t dead yet and I am glad I didn’t bite the last bait even though I hungrily bit and chewed on the first.

 

Sincerely,

Olusegun

Denver, Colorado  




Re: android queries

 

Thanks all for the info.
The using of names instead of version numbers is confusing.... To me
it seemed like each name was a different type of OS. If I remember
right it is linux based and linux has, to my knowledge, a few
different types too. Right now I can only remember Red Hat and that is
because I learned it 10+ years ago and it was version 6 or 7 I think.
Don't ask me anything about it now though because like most things I
can learn fast if I don't use it it sinks into my brain and the info
is only triggered by trivia questions or the right phrases, haha. I'm
really good at Jeopardy~

On 2/12/16, Øyvind Lode <oyvind.lode@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.

KitKat, Lollipop, Marshmallow and so on is only code names or release
names instead of android 4.4, android 5.x and 6.x.

Android phones is called android phones because they are running the
android operating system.

I'm running android 6.0.1 also called marshmallow on my Nexus 6P which
is the latest version of android.
Galaxy S5 is a Samsung device and the UI is different from my device.

Talkback is included in the android OS on most devices including Samsung.

For more info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29

or android.com

Please let me know if you have further questions.

On 12 February 2016 at 07:09, Melissa Hammitt <mjmarney@gmail.com> wrote:
I was just curious about the subject and didn't tfind a link that
basically broke it all down for me.
What I was wondering was: what OS do android phones use? I've heard
the names marshmellow, kitKat, raspberry pie , and lollipop. What
the heck is the difference? If there aren't quick answers I wouldn't
mind if someone just gave me a link to find out the answers.
I was curious because ever since I started using a smart phone I have
used an iPhone and while I think they're great it doesn't help me when
the other members of my family have android phones. (namely galaxy 5
or something like that.) Do you have to download talkback (I think
that is the name) or does it already come with the phone? Are their
different versions which work differently with the other candy
sounding names of OSs?
Are the settings basically the same across phones or do they change
when the brand of phone does?





Re: Looking for a refurbished laptop?

Pamela Dominguez
 

Yes, they do.  I bought one in the summer.  It is a Lenovo Thinkpad.  It has a DVD drive.  The drives are all now DVD drives.  That has been that way for years, drives being DVD.  But, of course, you can use CDs in them.  Pam.
 

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 8:04 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Looking for a refurbished laptop?
 

Here is a note from a friend of mine who is pretty tech savvy:

 

I bought my computer from Thinkpad Depot in Virginia 866-276-1575, somewhere close to DC. it's a Lenovo computer, X220 series. The processor is an MI5 or something similar; at least it ends in 5. There's a faster processor that ends in 7, but you only need that if you're using the machine primarily to play games.

. One of the things I like about it most is that it has 12 workable function keys that you don't have to press anything else with at the same time--i.e., no fn key to hold down while you try to press the function key simultaneously. The only things I don't like about it are that the space bar sounds a little loud when you're needing the keyboard to be quiet and that it doesn't include a CD drive; you have to buy one separately--which I did at Office Depot for about $50. Apparently, computers just aren't being made that include CD drives these days. By the time I'd spent the money for the computer, shipping, and the CD drive, my bill was about $500, which I figured was pretty good for a refurbished machine which I'm told should last me for about five years. Its best features are its small size and its lightness.


Re: window shopping

Pamela Dominguez
 

It has to, otherwise, it couldn't be plugged in to charge. The tip is what they call the thing that goes in the charging jack on your phone. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:31 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

Here is what is posted:

Small enough to fit in your handbag, Powerful enough to give your
electronics a boost!The PPP3 charges Mobile Phones, Tablets, Handheld
Games, MP3 Players, Cameras, E-Readers and More! It's rechargeable! Use
over and over again! It takes approximately 4 to 6 hours to recharge the
portable battery. Package includes compact power cord with USB port and
five interchangeable tips to charge:iPhone 5/5s(8 pin)iPhone 4/4s, iPads,
iPods (30 pin)Androids & Smart Phones (Micro USB)GPS & Games (Mini
USB)Cell Phones (Nokia Connector). Comes in assorted colors (our choice
please). Battery measures 7 1/2" x 1" x 4 1/4".
Price $24.95

I don't get it about the tips, since neither my feature phone or our
iPhone has a place to insert a cord with a tip on it for recharging.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:02 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

It depends on how much it will charge the device? How many ports it have
and
if it speaks the status and such and so on . Would need to know more
about
the specs on it!


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 5:33 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

Is $24.95 reasonable or high for one of those power units for on the go
cell
phone users? Speak to me has them.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 1:22 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

Yes you can use the USB but you have to get the camera adapter. Or a USB
to
RCA adapter. But since these are more than likely made for a computer
then
power might be an issue. You might have to get a different type.
Now if you got a windows tablet there would be no problem with that as
the
new windows tablet has USB 3.0 on it think. You could check out the
Microsoft Store and see for sure. I do know they do have USB to them the
windows tablet just don't know for sure it is USB 3.0 or 2.0


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 11:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

The audio would need to be good, as I'm severely deaf and with this
Toshiba
it sucks when I take my headset out.
You mentioned in another email, a tablet. I use a USB headset,
plantronic, I
can't plug those into a tablet I think.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 2:53 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

Well, myself yes I would look at the specs and here what I would look for
at
the very least: quad core processer, SD drive, at least 8 Gb of ram 12 GB
would be better, as many USB 3.0 ports as possible and a very good audio
on
the mother board. I think for portable reasons nothing over a 15 inch
screen
and if I could stay in the 13 inch screen I would do that. I think this
would be a very good start and could go from there!


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 12:48 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

You're probably better off narrowing your search by specs more than
anything. Components to a certain degree are going to be more or less the
same. Ram is ram and drives are drives. If you want SSD instead of
mechanical then that's what you should look out for. If you want a snappy
machine, then you could start off by only focusing on Core 5 and 7
laptops.
Everything else after that should fall into place. I'm not big on
spending
upwards of $700 or $800 if that for a laptop. At that point, you're going
to
start paying for features that as a blind/VI person, you wont' really be
able to take advantage of or at leasst get the full benefit from.
Graphics
performance, Screen resolution, etc.
I'm still banging away on a nearly five year old Dell Vostro 3750 which
is
considered to be a desktop replacement laptop. 17.3: screen and has a
nice
full keyboard with num-pad and everything. After using this laptop model
for
so long, I don’t' see myself going back to a smaller laptop or at least
one
that doesn't have the num-pad. It just makes everything easier with all
the
Jaws commands. I did have a Toshiba 14" laptop that I was very happy
with,
but I'll make the trade off of space and weight for greater utility at
this
point. In my case, I need to be able to interact with Excel and Word and
other business related tasks which again, having a full laptop keyboard
makes my portable life so much easier.
Olusegun is right. if you have the ability to do so, try to get your
hands
on some models. After specs, probably the next important thing is
keyboard
layout. Some designs have the Windows key in crazy and awkward places.
Especially as a keystroke user that we all are, this can be a very
important
consideration.
My Toshiba had its one Windows key way at the top right of the keyboard
which made things tricky at times with some Jaws commands. I eventually
got
used to it, but that's not something I want to have to deal with again
either.
Amazon's great to filter out models and select particular machines for
future follow up. Reading feedback and reviews and all the answered
questions.


-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
[mailto:ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:44 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

Hello Kimsan:

Thus far, I've never grabbed a laptop from amazon.com/ I go to a
computer
store and play with what they have on their shelves. I also try to ask
open-ended questions about particular laptop machines. Sales reps hate
me
for that because my questions task their intelligence and understanding.

I don't buy brand-new laptops; I generally grab a refurbished one for a
lot
less! Nothing wrong with a refurbished laptops. These have been
previously
leased to corporations who had since returned them at the end of the
lease
and grabbed the latest upgrade to continue with their lease program.

I am not a great fan of HP or Dell systems; for me, I take hard looks at
Asus, Acer, and Toshiba. Presently, I have a Sony laptop running
Windows7
Professional 64Bit. I've had this machine for about three and a half
years
and there's barely any scratch on it. I can still even sell it as a new
notebook, but I don't have any such plan!

Yes, it did come with some bloatwre which I am still trying extremely
hard
to clean out. Beyond that, it has served me well. Original price was
well
over $1,000, but, since I only buy refurbished laptops, I was able to
grab
it for $359, not bad for a Core5 machine!

I don't have a pair of eyes here to check out the model number for me;
but I
do know it's no longer being produced hence the reason why I never buy a
brand-new laptop since they become obsolete so fast.

I hope you have BestBuy or Microcenter nearby where you can go in and
actually play with the various laptops and ask a trillion questions like
I
do. Good luck in your search sire, I sure hope I helped some if not
much.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: window shopping

Pamela Dominguez
 

The other thing that drives me crazy is the mouse pad, and also, the finger print scanner. If I accidentally touch that, even though I have windows 7, it seems to get mixed up as to what I am trying to do, when I'm just trying to put my hands in the right place. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 5:07 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

Another reason why I like my Vostro's keyboard layout. There's a gap between
the numpad section of keys and the actual keyboard part. Those 15" screen
models with full keyboards will often have all the keys bunched together
which I don’t care for as you can easily get off track when typing along.
Something so suttle as this little spacing helps me to faster orientate
myself. I probably won't go less than 16" laptop because of this. I don’t'
like it when the keys feel almost uniform in their keyboard layout.
The lack of a dedicated context key doesn’t' concern me since pressing
shift+F10 is no big deal. That or right clicking depending on what one is
doing will accomplish the same thing.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez [mailto:geodom@optonline.net]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 1:24 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

Mine has a number pad, but all the keys are closer than a full-sized
keyboard. It has all the keys except for the applications key, but they
squish them into smaller spaces and rearrange things. The arrows look like
a six-pack, and the six-pack keys are along the top in a row. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Norman
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:48 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

Hi.
As i stated in another message then don't buy anything smaller than 15
inches if you want the full size keyboard. This probably puts macs out
of the running as the latest 15 inch macbook starts @ around $1900.


On 2/12/2016 1:02 AM, Kimsan wrote:
Not sure if I mentioned this but I'm running a Toshiba laptop with 750 gig
hd and 8 gig of ram. I've had it for about 4 years now.

Yes, Indeed a full size keyboard is definitely important at least to me.
With everyone who have noted how long they have had their laptops, yall
would kick me off the list if I told ya how many laptops II've had over
the
years in addition to this one. Lol.
Pardon me but not sure how to spell the dudes name, but to the guy who
stated he purchases refurbished computers and suggest I go to the store, I
might just do that.Bestbuy is probably a 30 minute bus ride for me which
is
why I get lazy and just get my electronics at Walmart lol. I will go into
best buy when I have a moment.

Thanks to all who answered.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:48 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

You're probably better off narrowing your search by specs more than
anything. Components to a certain degree are going to be more or less the
same. Ram is ram and drives are drives. If you want SSD instead of
mechanical then that's what you should look out for. If you want a snappy
machine, then you could start off by only focusing on Core 5 and 7
laptops.
Everything else after that should fall into place. I'm not big on spending
upwards of $700 or $800 if that for a laptop. At that point, you're going
to
start paying for features that as a blind/VI person, you wont' really be
able to take advantage of or at leasst get the full benefit from. Graphics
performance, Screen resolution, etc.
I'm still banging away on a nearly five year old Dell Vostro 3750 which is
considered to be a desktop replacement laptop. 17.3: screen and has a nice
full keyboard with num-pad and everything. After using this laptop model
for
so long, I don’t' see myself going back to a smaller laptop or at least
one
that doesn't have the num-pad. It just makes everything easier with all
the
Jaws commands. I did have a Toshiba 14" laptop that I was very happy with,
but I'll make the trade off of space and weight for greater utility at
this
point. In my case, I need to be able to interact with Excel and Word and
other business related tasks which again, having a full laptop keyboard
makes my portable life so much easier.
Olusegun is right. if you have the ability to do so, try to get your hands
on some models. After specs, probably the next important thing is keyboard
layout. Some designs have the Windows key in crazy and awkward places.
Especially as a keystroke user that we all are, this can be a very
important
consideration.
My Toshiba had its one Windows key way at the top right of the keyboard
which made things tricky at times with some Jaws commands. I eventually
got
used to it, but that's not something I want to have to deal with again
either.
Amazon's great to filter out models and select particular machines for
future follow up. Reading feedback and reviews and all the answered
questions.

-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
[mailto:ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:44 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] window shopping

Hello Kimsan:

Thus far, I've never grabbed a laptop from amazon.com/ I go to a computer
store and play with what they have on their shelves. I also try to ask
open-ended questions about particular laptop machines. Sales reps hate me
for that because my questions task their intelligence and understanding.

I don't buy brand-new laptops; I generally grab a refurbished one for a
lot
less! Nothing wrong with a refurbished laptops. These have been
previously
leased to corporations who had since returned them at the end of the lease
and grabbed the latest upgrade to continue with their lease program.

I am not a great fan of HP or Dell systems; for me, I take hard looks at
Asus, Acer, and Toshiba. Presently, I have a Sony laptop running Windows7
Professional 64Bit. I've had this machine for about three and a half
years
and there's barely any scratch on it. I can still even sell it as a new
notebook, but I don't have any such plan!

Yes, it did come with some bloatwre which I am still trying extremely hard
to clean out. Beyond that, it has served me well. Original price was
well
over $1,000, but, since I only buy refurbished laptops, I was able to grab
it for $359, not bad for a Core5 machine!

I don't have a pair of eyes here to check out the model number for me; but
I
do know it's no longer being produced hence the reason why I never buy a
brand-new laptop since they become obsolete so fast.

I hope you have BestBuy or Microcenter nearby where you can go in and
actually play with the various laptops and ask a trillion questions like I
do. Good luck in your search sire, I sure hope I helped some if not much.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado











Re: Using The NVDA Logo Sound For Podcasts

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi,
http://www.nvda-kr.org/en
Speaking of tutorials, I need to record another what's new audio tutorial
for NVDA 2016.1...
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Armando [mailto:braille.bt4753@gmx.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:26 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Using The NVDA Logo Sound For Podcasts

Hi Joseph.
Can you put a direct link to the podcast in which you covered this subject?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:25:12 -0800
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Using The NVDA Logo Sound For Podcasts

Hi,
I think this is a question NV Access should answer (try sending an email to
info@nvaccess.org)). The best case of use of NVDA logo in podcasts is my
own tutorial series (which I believe is justified since I cover the subject
the logo sound represents).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Armando [mailto:braille.bt4753@gmx.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:19 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Using The NVDA Logo Sound For Podcasts

Hi. Is it okay to use the NVDA logo sound at the beginning of podcasts? One
day I will make a podcast, and I want to know if it is okay to use the NVDA
logo sound.
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