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Re: Additional Free Voices for NVDA

Flor Lynch
 

I like the 'Lancashire' or whatever they call that varfiant (dialect) the best of the eSpeak lot. (I'm sort-of used to early Dolphin's Hal for DOS, <LOL>). (Also, SAM - the software (or Orpheus) synth that works with Hal/Supernova?) Well, I got used to the monotony! However, it's good that the other voices are now available for NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laz
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:38 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA

That's a very good idea! The default voice is really horrible and I
personally know at least a handfull of people who didn't give NVDA a
chance due to that fact. Since I have phone conversations with folks
because of my business, I always recommend they try NVDA if the
subject of screen readers comes up and I've learned to add the
statement that they can change to a different language and variant or
even use a SAPI5 voice. I've helped a lot of people get set up with
the Microsoft Speech Platform 11 voices and they're very happy using
NVDA now. Laz

On 9/3/15, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
One of the things that turns off a lot of people to NVDA is E-Speak. In my
opinion, something should come up in the instalation sequence asking people
if they want to choose another voice and giving them the selection of voices
that are unrestricted on the computer. A lot of people who don't know much
about screen-readers simply assume that it sounds the way it sounds and
don't use it once they hear the installation voice.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Marie
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 5:20 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA


Sorry, I saw on another email that it was Australian. either way In my
opinion it is bad. But I also realize that what one person thinks is bad,
another person likes it so I should keep this particular opinion to myself.

My apologies.
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:31 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA

Hi,

Actually, I believe e Speak is supposed to be British?

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie <magpie.mn@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 5:02 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA



I don't think there is anything wrong with your hearing when it comes to
ESpeak. It makes me want to grit my teeth trying to understand it and to
tolerate the very sound of it. I love Australian accents but this is
terrible. I will probably spend more time trying to use and learn NVDA
now
that the voice is so much more pleasant.
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: Monica Jones
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:07 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA

Good, I like NVDa; I just can't stand that ESpeak. It's too robotic and
the
accent is too sharp. I don't have a problem with real people with
Australian
accents; I understand them just fine. Somehow, those voices are just too
something. I've tried running them real slow and still can't get used to
them. Maybe it's my hearing, or, perhaps I just need to try longer.


-----Original Message-----
From: Marie
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:00 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA

Glad I could help. Be sure to run the Microsoft runtime file first and
then
the zira-pro. I did this while NVDA was running and then went into the
Preferences setting then synthesizers and found the voice. It is
responsive
and understandable.
Marie


original Message-----
From: Monica Jones
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 7:50 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA

Never mind, I lied, it did download. I just didn't get the noise I
usually
get when something finishes. Thanks for sending me the link again, Marie.


-----Original Message-----
From: Marie
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 9:39 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA

Monica,
If you download the zip file that was posted earlier, the correct files
are
included. I just downloaded it and installed the runtime file and the
zira-pro voice on my desktop and I must say it is a vast improvement over
ESpeak. In case you missed the zip file, here is the link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Txao1DiiuvSXdoT3k0U0hHaHc/view"usp=sharing
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Monica Jones
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 7:34 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA

Is the 86 version on the page, or do have to find that somewhere else?
I'm
asking because you said the info was missing.


-----Original Message-----
From: Laz
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 2:09 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA

Gerald,

I hope the below helps. I noticed this info was missing on the page
from the link that was provided earlier.

Microsoft Speech Platform - Runtime (Version 11), x86. Note that you
must install the x86 version even if your system is 64 bit.

Laz

On 9/2/15, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net> wrote:

I installed these two apps, but when I accessed the NVDA Synthesizer
dialog

on the Preferences menu and selected Microsoft Speech Platform in the
combo

box and then clicked Okay, I got an error message that the synthesizer
could

not be loaded. Did I screw something up?

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Blaster
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:42 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA

You can get the updated speech runtime update and extra voices from
this
link:

http://pamgriffith.net/blog/alternative-voices-for-nvda/


I like the zira pro voice myself,
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Oddity With Windows Key + D

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Running Windows 8.1 64 bit (is there a 32 bit version of Windows 8) on occasion, when I press windows Key + d, not only am I taken to the desktop, but all open Windows except the program I was in when I invoked the keystroke are closed. What could cause this situation?

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Re: Additional Free Voices for NVDA

Flor Lynch
 

Actually, the version of Eloquence that JAWS uses can’t be seen by other screen-readers/OCR self-voicing programs. So the JAWS Eloquence is ‘locked into’ JAWS. (They have got a specific licence for their specifric Eloquence.) (Same goes for JAWS Vocalizer Expressive voices.) Nuance voices, on the other hand, are screen-reader independent.
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA
No not legally.  Having a license to use Eloquence with JAWS is not necessarily a license to use it with other products.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA
 
I do not know, but, if you have jaws, can you use Eloquence  with NVDA? After all, you bought jaws that came with Eloquence so, can you not use it with NVDA on your own PC? Heather
----- Original Message -----
>From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 9:27 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Additional Free Voices for NVDA

 
On my old XP PC, I was able to use Eloquence as my default voice for NVDA because I also happened to have Open Book 7 installed as well.  But on my current Windows 7 PC, the only default voices available for NVDA are Microsoft Anna or ESpeak, neither of which appeals to me because they are not especially clear or responsive.  I am well aware that Eloquence is not available legally as a free voice for NVDA in Win 7, so I won’t even bother to get into a discussion about this sensitive issue.  In any case, are there any other free voices available for NVDA that are clearer and more responsive than Anna or ESpeak?  Thanks.
 
Gerald
 
 


Re: Ineed an IPAD referral

Flor Lynch
 

True, it's a good list; but I hesitate to refer it, as it can be rather high-traffic at times and 'intense' (if you know what I mean). Yes there are several iPad users there.

viphone+subscribe@googlegroups.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 10:32 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ineed an IPAD referral

Hi,
I highly recommend VIphone (I believe it is a Google Groups-based group), and there are some over there who uses iPad.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill [mailto:girlyscream@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 2:06 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Ineed an IPAD referral

Hi All,

I just got an IPAD Friday and I need to start figuring out how to use it.

Is there a group just for IPADs relating to the blind/visually impaired? It needs to be one that would only smile and not laugh out loud when I ask simple questions.

Please give me some ideas.

Thanks,
Nancy
Nancy


Re: Question about the Windows m keystroke

Flor Lynch
 

I don't have JAWS on my taskbar; I have it in the System Tray, where I prefer it to be.

-----Original Message-----
From: TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 12:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

Hi Flor,
The Windows D keystroke doesn't do that for me. It toggles between the
desktop and JAWS.. I started in Outlook and it does not return me to
Outlook.

TerriLyhnne

-----Original Message-----
From: Flor Lynch [mailto:florlync@iol.ie]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:57 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

WindowsD is a toggle to the desktop and back. So when you press it again,
like ant alt-tab, it returns you to where you were.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 8:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

Can you use Windows D, when you want to leave a file open and Alt Tab back
to it when needed?

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


I have noticed this behavior as well. Windows key-M does not always move
focus to the desktop in Windows 7 on the first try as it did in XP. I
sometimes have to execute it twice to focus on the desktop. But Windows
key-D always seems to move focus to the desktop right away. So what is the
real difference between these two keystroke commands, anyway?

Gerald



From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:02 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

This is a known problem. I have to issue the command Windows key m twice
almost every time I want to return to the desktop. If you want to avoid the
problem, just issue the command twice quickly instead of once. I have the
problem in Windows 7 and I've seen others discuss it as well. I wouldn't be
surprised if many users in Windows 7 and higher have this problem.

Gene

From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 6:33 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


Hi all,

I do a lot of alt tabbing between windows, so I like to have my desktop only
show up when I hit Windows plus m. However, in the last couple of days, the
first time I hit windows key plus m, it is taking me to a place where it
just says start. I have to do it a second time to get to the desktop.



I thought this might be a keyboard issue, so I went and bought a new
keyboard, but it hasn't changed anything. *sigh*



Any suggestions?



TerriLynne


Re: Question about the Windows m keystroke

Flor Lynch
 

It is an either/or toggle, and that’s it, LOL. When you opened a program from the desktop, you are then no longer *on* the desktop. So, it’s a desktop + [plus] toggle. (I put in that word plus so that those readers with screen-reader punctuation etc off would hear it.)
 

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke
I consider the fact that Windows key d is a toggle to be almost irrelevant.  Yes, it's a toggle, but only if you go to the desktop and stay on it.  Let's say, for example, that you are in Notepad.  You use Windows key d to go to the desktop and open a program from the desktop.  You are now in the program, let's say firefox as an example.  Windows key d will return you to the desktop again, it won't return you to Notepad. 
 
Also, I suspect that using Windows key m on a lot of laptop computers is more convenient if you are using the internal keyboard.  My laptop has only one windows key, the left one.  For that reason, Windows key m is more convenient to execute.
I don't know this, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of laptops have only a left Windows key.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Kwork
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke
 
That, right there, has converted me to using win+d instead of win+m, which
is not a toggle. I'll actually probably use both. Thanks.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


WindowsD is a toggle to the desktop and back. So when you press it again,
like ant alt-tab, it returns you to where you were.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 8:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

Can you use Windows D, when you want to leave a file open and Alt Tab back
to it when needed?

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
>From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


I have noticed this behavior as well.  Windows key-M does not always move
focus to the desktop in Windows 7 on the first try as it did in XP.  I
sometimes have to execute it twice to focus on the desktop.  But Windows
key-D always seems to move focus to the desktop right away.  So what is the
real difference between these two keystroke commands, anyway?

Gerald



>From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:02 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

This is a known problem.  I have to issue the command Windows key m twice
almost every time I want to return to the desktop.  If you want to avoid the
problem, just issue the command twice quickly instead of once.  I have the
problem in Windows 7 and I've seen others discuss it as well.  I wouldn't be
surprised if many users in Windows 7 and higher have this problem.

Gene

>From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 6:33 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


Hi all,

I do a lot of alt tabbing between windows, so I like to have my desktop only
show up when I hit Windows plus m. However, in the last couple of days, the
first time I hit windows key plus m, it is taking me to a place where it
just says start. I have to do it a second time to get to the desktop.



I thought this might be a keyboard issue, so I went and bought a new
keyboard, but it hasn't changed anything. *sigh*



Any suggestions?



TerriLynne












Re: Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast

Flor Lynch
 

Also the mobile page, if entered in RSSRadio’s URL’s search field, returns RSS! or something similar, meaning that it can’t parse it. Howevedr, the corrected feed URL which you provided, gave me an idea of how such entries should look there, as it worked. (I’d tried a few URL’s previously, that didn’t work, and returned the error I have cited.) 
 

From: Kwork
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast
I guess I just assumed it was the mobile page since the url ended with the word "mobile."
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast
 
Well, if it is the ‘mobile page’ it doesn’t open in Safari on iOS8.4.1, the latest iOS full iteration. The feed URL, however, opens in a mobile podcatcher, as it should, and as an RSS Feed on the PC, as so it should.
 
From: Kwork
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast
That's because it was the mobile page.
is the page for the actual feed.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast
 
When I use firefox to follow the link, a web page comes up showing various editions of a program.  However, the page contains no information about how to subscribe and it doesn't look like a podcast subscription page to me, at least not the few I've seen.  I don't subscribe to podcasts, I listen to them now and then but not by subscribing.  I don't think this page is the subscription page.  It looks like a page where people can listen to the podcasts without subscribing.
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast
 
Sorry, when I tried that link, I got: “Safari cannot open the page because the server cannot be found.”
 
What’s the name of the podcast? In the podcatching clients that I have on my iPhone, I know of DownCast and RSSRadio, it’s best to search by the podcast title.
 
From: Jessica D
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 7:24 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast
Hi
I found a podcast I want to subscribe to, but icatcher; my podcast player of choice, says the link is invalid.
I have emailed the developer, and I'm waiting for response. In the meantime, I was wondering if one of you guys could help me.
How could I subscribed to this podcast?
Here's the link,
 
 
Thanks,
Jessica
 

Sent from my iPhone


Re: Question about the Windows m keystroke

TerriLynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
 

Hi Flor,
The Windows D keystroke doesn't do that for me. It toggles between the
desktop and JAWS.. I started in Outlook and it does not return me to
Outlook.

TerriLyhnne

-----Original Message-----
From: Flor Lynch [mailto:florlync@iol.ie]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:57 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

WindowsD is a toggle to the desktop and back. So when you press it again,
like ant alt-tab, it returns you to where you were.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 8:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

Can you use Windows D, when you want to leave a file open and Alt Tab back
to it when needed?

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


I have noticed this behavior as well. Windows key-M does not always move
focus to the desktop in Windows 7 on the first try as it did in XP. I
sometimes have to execute it twice to focus on the desktop. But Windows
key-D always seems to move focus to the desktop right away. So what is the
real difference between these two keystroke commands, anyway?

Gerald



From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:02 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

This is a known problem. I have to issue the command Windows key m twice
almost every time I want to return to the desktop. If you want to avoid the
problem, just issue the command twice quickly instead of once. I have the
problem in Windows 7 and I've seen others discuss it as well. I wouldn't be
surprised if many users in Windows 7 and higher have this problem.

Gene

From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 6:33 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


Hi all,

I do a lot of alt tabbing between windows, so I like to have my desktop only
show up when I hit Windows plus m. However, in the last couple of days, the
first time I hit windows key plus m, it is taking me to a place where it
just says start. I have to do it a second time to get to the desktop.



I thought this might be a keyboard issue, so I went and bought a new
keyboard, but it hasn't changed anything. *sigh*



Any suggestions?



TerriLynne


Re: original messages was: Carlos: via sound card software package

Christina Stolze
 

Rajmond,
Thank you.
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 3:33 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: original messages was: [TechTalk] Carlos: via sound card
software package

Hi Christina,
You're OK. The message is visible below.

----- Original Message -----
From: Christina Stolze <christinastolze@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Sunday, 6 September 2015 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: original messages was: [TechTalk] Carlos: via sound card
software package



That is all well and good but I haven't a clue on how to do that. I am not
that good with the computer I am that novice who is afraid to break things
and sometimes the intermediate computer user. If you can assist me in how to
do that I would appreciate that for the most part I don't really have too
much to say because I would rather listen to learn but once in a while I
might like to respond to ask for more information or something along those
lines. Have a great day.
Christina

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:35 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: original messages was: [TechTalk] Carlos: via sound card
software package

If everyone would set their email clients to include messages in their
replies, this would keep late comers to any particular thread up to speed as
well.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: original messages was: [TechTalk] Carlos: via sound card
software package

Not everybody will do this. So it'd be better to ask people when posting
replies to make sure that they also send enough information in their
replies
about the original message that they're responding to.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 3:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: original messages was: [TechTalk] Carlos: via sound card software
package

Hi all,
Please, this is a good example why we should try and keep the original
messages.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc..rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Saturday, 5 September 2015 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Carlos: via sound card software package



Hi Bill,
Your message does not seem to contain the reply I posted so I'm not even
quite sure what I said.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Koppelmann" <billmeister@samobile.net>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Carlos: via sound card software package


Hi Carlos,
Ok, if what you're saying is correct, then why can't I suddenly not
get
any sound out of my headphone jack. I've not yet gotten to your
message
about using usb headphones, but I'll be reading it soon. Perhaps that
might resolve my problem?
thanks,
Bill




Sent from a Braille Sense








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Re: Question about the Windows m keystroke

Kwork
 

Ah, makes sense. I've heard that many newer keyboards, both laptop and desktop don't have a right win key. The win+m would be much more economical in that case.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

I consider the fact that Windows key d is a toggle to be almost irrelevant.  Yes, it's a toggle, but only if you go to the desktop and stay on it.  Let's say, for example, that you are in Notepad.  You use Windows key d to go to the desktop and open a program from the desktop.  You are now in the program, let's say firefox as an example.  Windows key d will return you to the desktop again, it won't return you to Notepad. 
 
Also, I suspect that using Windows key m on a lot of laptop computers is more convenient if you are using the internal keyboard.  My laptop has only one windows key, the left one.  For that reason, Windows key m is more convenient to execute.
I don't know this, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of laptops have only a left Windows key.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Kwork
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

That, right there, has converted me to using win+d instead of win+m, which
is not a toggle. I'll actually probably use both. Thanks.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


WindowsD is a toggle to the desktop and back. So when you press it again,
like ant alt-tab, it returns you to where you were.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 8:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

Can you use Windows D, when you want to leave a file open and Alt Tab back
to it when needed?

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
>From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


I have noticed this behavior as well.  Windows key-M does not always move
focus to the desktop in Windows 7 on the first try as it did in XP.  I
sometimes have to execute it twice to focus on the desktop.  But Windows
key-D always seems to move focus to the desktop right away.  So what is the
real difference between these two keystroke commands, anyway?

Gerald



>From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:02 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

This is a known problem.  I have to issue the command Windows key m twice
almost every time I want to return to the desktop.  If you want to avoid the
problem, just issue the command twice quickly instead of once.  I have the
problem in Windows 7 and I've seen others discuss it as well.  I wouldn't be
surprised if many users in Windows 7 and higher have this problem.

Gene

>From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 6:33 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


Hi all,

I do a lot of alt tabbing between windows, so I like to have my desktop only
show up when I hit Windows plus m. However, in the last couple of days, the
first time I hit windows key plus m, it is taking me to a place where it
just says start. I have to do it a second time to get to the desktop.



I thought this might be a keyboard issue, so I went and bought a new
keyboard, but it hasn't changed anything. *sigh*



Any suggestions?



TerriLynne












Re: Question about the Windows m keystroke

Gene
 

I consider the fact that Windows key d is a toggle to be almost irrelevant.  Yes, it's a toggle, but only if you go to the desktop and stay on it.  Let's say, for example, that you are in Notepad.  You use Windows key d to go to the desktop and open a program from the desktop.  You are now in the program, let's say firefox as an example.  Windows key d will return you to the desktop again, it won't return you to Notepad. 
 
Also, I suspect that using Windows key m on a lot of laptop computers is more convenient if you are using the internal keyboard.  My laptop has only one windows key, the left one.  For that reason, Windows key m is more convenient to execute.
I don't know this, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of laptops have only a left Windows key.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Kwork
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

That, right there, has converted me to using win+d instead of win+m, which
is not a toggle. I'll actually probably use both. Thanks.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


WindowsD is a toggle to the desktop and back. So when you press it again,
like ant alt-tab, it returns you to where you were.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 8:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

Can you use Windows D, when you want to leave a file open and Alt Tab back
to it when needed?

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
>From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


I have noticed this behavior as well.  Windows key-M does not always move
focus to the desktop in Windows 7 on the first try as it did in XP.  I
sometimes have to execute it twice to focus on the desktop.  But Windows
key-D always seems to move focus to the desktop right away.  So what is the
real difference between these two keystroke commands, anyway?

Gerald



>From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:02 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

This is a known problem.  I have to issue the command Windows key m twice
almost every time I want to return to the desktop.  If you want to avoid the
problem, just issue the command twice quickly instead of once.  I have the
problem in Windows 7 and I've seen others discuss it as well.  I wouldn't be
surprised if many users in Windows 7 and higher have this problem.

Gene

>From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 6:33 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


Hi all,

I do a lot of alt tabbing between windows, so I like to have my desktop only
show up when I hit Windows plus m. However, in the last couple of days, the
first time I hit windows key plus m, it is taking me to a place where it
just says start. I have to do it a second time to get to the desktop.



I thought this might be a keyboard issue, so I went and bought a new
keyboard, but it hasn't changed anything. *sigh*



Any suggestions?



TerriLynne












Temporary link to download NVDA 2015.3 installer

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi all,

For those who’d like to upgrade to 2015.3 but can’t due to NV Access server outage, please go to:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/en

This is one of the mirrors available. This link will be removed once NV Access website returns. Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast

Kwork
 


I guess I just assumed it was the mobile page since the url ended with the word "mobile."
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast

Well, if it is the ‘mobile page’ it doesn’t open in Safari on iOS8.4.1, the latest iOS full iteration. The feed URL, however, opens in a mobile podcatcher, as it should, and as an RSS Feed on the PC, as so it should.
 
From: Kwork
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast
That's because it was the mobile page.
is the page for the actual feed.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast
 
When I use firefox to follow the link, a web page comes up showing various editions of a program.  However, the page contains no information about how to subscribe and it doesn't look like a podcast subscription page to me, at least not the few I've seen.  I don't subscribe to podcasts, I listen to them now and then but not by subscribing.  I don't think this page is the subscription page.  It looks like a page where people can listen to the podcasts without subscribing.
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast
 
Sorry, when I tried that link, I got: “Safari cannot open the page because the server cannot be found.”
 
What’s the name of the podcast? In the podcatching clients that I have on my iPhone, I know of DownCast and RSSRadio, it’s best to search by the podcast title.
 
From: Jessica D
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 7:24 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Attempting to subscribe to a specific podcast
Hi
I found a podcast I want to subscribe to, but icatcher; my podcast player of choice, says the link is invalid.
I have emailed the developer, and I'm waiting for response. In the meantime, I was wondering if one of you guys could help me.
How could I subscribed to this podcast?
Here's the link,
 
 
Thanks,
Jessica
 

Sent from my iPhone


Re: Question about the Windows m keystroke

Kwork
 

That, right there, has converted me to using win+d instead of win+m, which
is not a toggle. I'll actually probably use both. Thanks.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


WindowsD is a toggle to the desktop and back. So when you press it again,
like ant alt-tab, it returns you to where you were.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 8:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

Can you use Windows D, when you want to leave a file open and Alt Tab back
to it when needed?

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


I have noticed this behavior as well. Windows key-M does not always move
focus to the desktop in Windows 7 on the first try as it did in XP. I
sometimes have to execute it twice to focus on the desktop. But Windows
key-D always seems to move focus to the desktop right away. So what is the
real difference between these two keystroke commands, anyway?

Gerald



From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:02 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

This is a known problem. I have to issue the command Windows key m twice
almost every time I want to return to the desktop. If you want to avoid the
problem, just issue the command twice quickly instead of once. I have the
problem in Windows 7 and I've seen others discuss it as well. I wouldn't be
surprised if many users in Windows 7 and higher have this problem.

Gene

From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 6:33 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


Hi all,

I do a lot of alt tabbing between windows, so I like to have my desktop only
show up when I hit Windows plus m. However, in the last couple of days, the
first time I hit windows key plus m, it is taking me to a place where it
just says start. I have to do it a second time to get to the desktop.



I thought this might be a keyboard issue, so I went and bought a new
keyboard, but it hasn't changed anything. *sigh*



Any suggestions?



TerriLynne


Re: What does it mean when some items on the Processes tab of Task Manager are marked with an asterisk?

Carlos
 

The asterisk indicates a 32 bit process.

----- Original Message -----
From: Walt Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 6:22 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What does it mean when some items on the Processes tab of Task Manager are marked with an asterisk?

The subject pretty much sums it up: I've noticed ever since I started using the Task Manager years ago that on the Processes tab, some items are marked with an asterisk and others aren't. The available help is of no help at all, so I'm asking here on the assumption that someone knows. Thanks in advance.
 
--
Walt Smith - Clearwater, FL
 


What does it mean when some items on the Processes tab of Task Manager are marked with an asterisk?

Walt Smith
 

The subject pretty much sums it up: I've noticed ever since I started using the Task Manager years ago that on the Processes tab, some items are marked with an asterisk and others aren't. The available help is of no help at all, so I'm asking here on the assumption that someone knows. Thanks in advance.
 
--
Walt Smith - Clearwater, FL
 


Re: Promoting the list

Michael Amaro
 

Aw my friend Carlos , join the club I to am not a member of any social networks.  Skype is as far as I'll go.
 
Thanks
Michael
email/messenger
mikeameli@...
Skype ID
mikeameli
JFK
"What kind of peace do I mean and what kind of a peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war, not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living and the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and build a better life for their children not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women not merely peace in our time but peace in all time."

From: Jessica D
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Hi
Anytime I talk to one of my friends, I tell them about it. I also promote the list via text message.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2015, at 2:47 PM, nontoxicster@... wrote:

Here's another thought when it comes to promoting the list if and when needed. Why not use Facebook; Wordpress; and any other social media that you maybe on.


On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 5:09 PM, amanda burt <aburt123@...> wrote:
Here here, I totally agree with this
 
Amanda

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Hi Carlos and list,
 
I like a lot of traffic.  The more questions and answers that come in to my TechTalk  folder, the more opportunities I have to learn as a computer user.  And, eventually, the more opportunities I will have to assist others.  I can always hit the delete key if I am not interested in a topic.
 
Many thanks to Carlos and all who work to make this list work so well.
 
James
 
 
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list
 
179 members in a bit less than a week is not too bad.  At least in my opinion.  If the number of members does not increase significantly over the next 2 or 3 weeks, then some promotion might not be unreasonable, but just keep in mind that some members already seem to be having a problem with the amount of traffic.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list
 
Hi,
With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such.  It’s been my experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well and left to their own devices and timing.
It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their way here will in due course.
Robin
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list
 
I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.
 
Gene



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Re: converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

Smiling?
 

No, not that I know of.

 

From: Flor Lynch [mailto:florlync@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 2:28 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

 

Is there a file size limit on the pdf’s it will convert? LotApps is a good suite of utilities: I’ve used it to convert pdf’s to html before. While it did so, there were no links (as had been in the original pdf), except for top and bottom of page, and next page (That might’ve been the poorly structured pdf’s, though.) .

 

From: Smiling?

Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 10:11 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

Free PDF to Word Converter (no installation necessary):

 

LotApps Free PDF To Word Converter is a windows software that quickly converts PDF documents to Microsoft Word formats (docx). you can batch convert portable PDF's to editable Word files with preserving the original formatting: text, images, column and row layout.

 

PDF to Word direct link:

http://lotapps.com/download/pdf2word.zip

 

From: Anders Holmberg [mailto:anders@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

 

Hi!

I am also very intrested in this question.

As i am in need of it with a manual i have.

/A

6 sep. 2015 kl. 16:55 skrev Dean Martineau <topdot@...>:

 

I like to convert PDF documents to other formats, usually text but could be any of several others.  When I use the conversion routine built into Adobe Reader, all the line breaks are converted into hard line breaks, making it hard to find the actual paragraph boundaries.  Does anybody have a solution to this?

 

Dean

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Ineed an IPAD referral

Flor Lynch
 

Try:

peel-the-apple+subscribe@googlegroups.com

- The owner (I believe he is) goes by the name/username Kliph, and apparently they discuss all types of Apple Macs and iDevices with users (in a patient manner).

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 10:05 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Ineed an IPAD referral

Hi All,

I just got an IPAD Friday and I need to start figuring out how to use it.

Is there a group just for IPADs relating to the blind/visually
impaired? It needs to be one that would only smile and not laugh out
loud when I ask simple questions.

Please give me some ideas.

Thanks,
Nancy
Nancy


Re: Groups.io question

Sugar
 

Yes this is true. A woner may do so. The owner can also give permission to
made any member a moderator and give him or her the capability to delete
group as well.


'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the
night.
~Sugar

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Bowers [mailto:gdbowers@swbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 9:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io question

I disagree. I'm sure that a group owner can remove or delete his or her own
group. Think about what you wrote.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 11:02 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io question

Hi,
I don't believe a group is deleted by the group owner, unless, its violating
something.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Bowers <gdbowers@swbell.net>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Saturday, 5 September 2015 10:39 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io question



Are test groups removed or cancelled easily from Groups.io by the list
owner?

Gary



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