Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
Also, this is how software and R&DD works, not everything researched results
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in a new device. At times the technology is used for other purposes, but just because it doesn't have an immediate use doesn't mean its time, money, or effort wasted. GPS has existed for decades, but its only relatively recently that it has become omnipresent on just about all mobile devices. JR
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:16 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Hi Carlos, Just a guess, but, people in schools, who have absolutely ideas what we want? Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 12:13:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Yes, but who exactly is requesting all of these Narrator improvements? Not just based on this poll, but based on experience I don't believe most blind consumers are using Narrator frequently enough for it to warrant this much attention. Certainly not at the expense of effort which could be invested elsewhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Hi, Things are implemented based on upvotes and severity of bugs. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I'm sure Microsoft already receives more than enough feedback, but like most large corporations they prioritize based on some secret formula unknown to the rest of us which usually has little to do with what consumers are actually requesting. In other words, they hear what they choose to hear and then do what they want to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste of effort. ----- Original Message ----- From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. TerriLynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I only use Narrator for emergencies. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll A new poll has been created: Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies 2. I never use Narrator 3. I use Narrator regularly Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
Maybe not ultimately on Windows, but it is very likely the narrator research and development might be targeted for platforms other than desktops such as tablets and phones. In other words, Narrator on the desktop has a huge pool of users, and the R&D resulting from this large group of users can be used on other platforms such as tablets.
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JR
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:13 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Yes, but who exactly is requesting all of these Narrator improvements? Not just based on this poll, but based on experience I don't believe most blind consumers are using Narrator frequently enough for it to warrant this much attention. Certainly not at the expense of effort which could be invested elsewhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Hi, Things are implemented based on upvotes and severity of bugs. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I'm sure Microsoft already receives more than enough feedback, but like most large corporations they prioritize based on some secret formula unknown to the rest of us which usually has little to do with what consumers are actually requesting. In other words, they hear what they choose to hear and then do what they want to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste of effort. ----- Original Message ----- From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. TerriLynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I only use Narrator for emergencies. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll A new poll has been created: Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies 2. I never use Narrator 3. I use Narrator regularly Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137>
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Carolyn Arnold
It's probably some engineer's justification for his/her job.
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Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:13 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Yes, but who exactly is requesting all of these Narrator improvements? Not just based on this poll, but based on experience I don't believe most blind consumers are using Narrator frequently enough for it to warrant this much attention. Certainly not at the expense of effort which could be invested elsewhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Hi, Things are implemented based on upvotes and severity of bugs. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I'm sure Microsoft already receives more than enough feedback, but like most large corporations they prioritize based on some secret formula unknown to the rest of us which usually has little to do with what consumers are actually requesting. In other words, they hear what they choose to hear and then do what they want to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste of effort. ----- Original Message ----- From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. TerriLynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I only use Narrator for emergencies. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll A new poll has been created: Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies 2. I never use Narrator 3. I use Narrator regularly Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137>
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hi Carlos,
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Just a guess, but, people in schools, who have absolutely ideas what we want? Sent from a BrailleNote
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From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 12:13:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Yes, but who exactly is requesting all of these Narrator improvements? Not just based on this poll, but based on experience I don't believe most blind consumers are using Narrator frequently enough for it to warrant this much attention. Certainly not at the expense of effort which could be invested elsewhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Hi, Things are implemented based on upvotes and severity of bugs. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I'm sure Microsoft already receives more than enough feedback, but like most large corporations they prioritize based on some secret formula unknown to the rest of us which usually has little to do with what consumers are actually requesting. In other words, they hear what they choose to hear and then do what they want to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste of effort. ----- Original Message ----- From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. TerriLynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I only use Narrator for emergencies. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll A new poll has been created: Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies 2. I never use Narrator 3. I use Narrator regularly Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Carlos
Yes, but who exactly is requesting all of these Narrator improvements? Not just based on this poll, but based on experience I don't believe most blind consumers are using Narrator frequently enough for it to warrant this much attention. Certainly not at the expense of effort which could be invested elsewhere.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Hi, Things are implemented based on upvotes and severity of bugs. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I'm sure Microsoft already receives more than enough feedback, but like most large corporations they prioritize based on some secret formula unknown to the rest of us which usually has little to do with what consumers are actually requesting. In other words, they hear what they choose to hear and then do what they want to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste of effort. ----- Original Message ----- From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. TerriLynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I only use Narrator for emergencies. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll A new poll has been created: Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies 2. I never use Narrator 3. I use Narrator regularly Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137>
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Carolyn Arnold
1000 percent right on. It makes sense to them.
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Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:00 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I'm sure Microsoft already receives more than enough feedback, but like most large corporations they prioritize based on some secret formula unknown to the rest of us which usually has little to do with what consumers are actually requesting. In other words, they hear what they choose to hear and then do what they want to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste of effort. ----- Original Message ----- From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. TerriLynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I only use Narrator for emergencies. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll A new poll has been created: Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies 2. I never use Narrator 3. I use Narrator regularly Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137>
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Hi,
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Things are implemented based on upvotes and severity of bugs. Cheers, Joseph
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I'm sure Microsoft already receives more than enough feedback, but like most large corporations they prioritize based on some secret formula unknown to the rest of us which usually has little to do with what consumers are actually requesting. In other words, they hear what they choose to hear and then do what they want to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste of effort. ----- Original Message ----- From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. TerriLynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I only use Narrator for emergencies. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll A new poll has been created: Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies 2. I never use Narrator 3. I use Narrator regularly Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137>
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Carlos
I'm sure Microsoft already receives more than enough feedback, but like most large corporations they prioritize based on some secret formula unknown to the rest of us which usually has little to do with what consumers are actually requesting. In other words, they hear what they choose to hear and then do what they want to do.
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From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste of effort. ----- Original Message ----- From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. TerriLynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I only use Narrator for emergencies. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll A new poll has been created: Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies 2. I never use Narrator 3. I use Narrator regularly Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137>
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Re: changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone
rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hi,
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And isn't the double tap to open annoying? Although, it also depends on your speech rate. It is certainly annoying at 100%. Sent from a BrailleNote
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From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 11:41:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Well it depends on the person and how they like their device setup! I consider myself a very advance or power user of the iphone. Since I had one since the 3gs came out in 2009. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:09 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Hi, Remember, though, if you want the preview, you need to have voiceover hints, else it won't read them. And those of us that are more of a power user, the double tap to open can become more than tedious. Thought I'd just point it out. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 08:49:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Well no but if you view your mail by thread then there is not much problem. You just open the thread and go to the bottom of it and start from the bottom up. For example there is thread talking about windows update and there is 10 messages in that thread. Just double tap on the thread called windows update then this will open that thread it will be from newest to oldest and you just flip left to right to get to the bottom or you can do a three finger flip up from the bottom of the screen and it will take you to the bottom of the thread or you can do touch by explore. Once you are at the bottom then you can start reading from the bottom up and you will be in oldest to newest. Now I myself read from newest to oldest and I have preview turn on for mail where it reads the first 5 lines without even open the message in the thread. For example I open the thread called windows update and then I just flick left to right and as I land on the message stop and pause and it will read the first 5 lines of it and I can tell if I want to open it up to read more or just flick up and choose delete or whatever action I want. I have the same thing set up on my PC preview messages without opening them. I don't know but maybe in IOS 10 they might have some more choices. On how you view your thread. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 6:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone Hi, Its frustrating, too. Since 2012, when I began using emails, I was reading from oldest to newest. When I found out that this couldn't be changed, you can imagine my reaction. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat" <bharat.b@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 15:23:09 +0530 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone Well, I must say, that's really odd! On 7/4/16, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, You can't change the order. Your best bet is, to go to the bottom of the screen (explore by touch near the home button) flick to the left till you come to the first email. Then, when you delete that email, it should open the next oldest one, although the next and previous buttons respectively, should do what you wanted them, too. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat" <bharat.b@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 12:26:12 +0530 Subject: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone hi all, i have an issue here i need your help with. whenever i go through a thread in the mail app on the Iphone, it displays the most recent mail on top & the oldest mail which in most cases is the originator of the thread at the bottom of the thread. Can you please direct as to how do i sort the mails in a sensible way? thank you, bharat.
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
#poll
Carolyn Arnold
I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience.
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Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste of effort. ----- Original Message ----- From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. TerriLynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I only use Narrator for emergencies. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll A new poll has been created: Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies 2. I never use Narrator 3. I use Narrator regularly Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137>
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Re: changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone
Matt
Well it depends on the person and how they like their device setup! I
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consider myself a very advance or power user of the iphone. Since I had one since the 3gs came out in 2009. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:09 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Hi, Remember, though, if you want the preview, you need to have voiceover hints, else it won't read them. And those of us that are more of a power user, the double tap to open can become more than tedious. Thought I'd just point it out. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 08:49:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Well no but if you view your mail by thread then there is not much problem. You just open the thread and go to the bottom of it and start from the bottom up. For example there is thread talking about windows update and there is 10 messages in that thread. Just double tap on the thread called windows update then this will open that thread it will be from newest to oldest and you just flip left to right to get to the bottom or you can do a three finger flip up from the bottom of the screen and it will take you to the bottom of the thread or you can do touch by explore. Once you are at the bottom then you can start reading from the bottom up and you will be in oldest to newest. Now I myself read from newest to oldest and I have preview turn on for mail where it reads the first 5 lines without even open the message in the thread. For example I open the thread called windows update and then I just flick left to right and as I land on the message stop and pause and it will read the first 5 lines of it and I can tell if I want to open it up to read more or just flick up and choose delete or whatever action I want. I have the same thing set up on my PC preview messages without opening them. I don't know but maybe in IOS 10 they might have some more choices. On how you view your thread. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 6:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone Hi, Its frustrating, too. Since 2012, when I began using emails, I was reading from oldest to newest. When I found out that this couldn't be changed, you can imagine my reaction. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat" <bharat.b@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 15:23:09 +0530 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone Well, I must say, that's really odd! On 7/4/16, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, You can't change the order. Your best bet is, to go to the bottom of the screen (explore by touch near the home button) flick to the left till you come to the first email. Then, when you delete that email, it should open the next oldest one, although the next and previous buttons respectively, should do what you wanted them, too. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat" <bharat.b@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 12:26:12 +0530 Subject: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone hi all, i have an issue here i need your help with. whenever i go through a thread in the mail app on the Iphone, it displays the most recent mail on top & the oldest mail which in most cases is the originator of the thread at the bottom of the thread. Can you please direct as to how do i sort the mails in a sensible way? thank you, bharat.
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Re: Is there any way to completely turnoff my laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices
Carlos
You can try PDF to TXT to convert the file or Balabolka to view it directly. The official download link for PDF to TXT seems not to be working at the moment, but I uploaded the installer to ShareByLink so you can download it using the URL below.
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https://iqu.ca/1/?98B96CAA445A Balabolka can be downloaded from it's homepage at the following link. http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm
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From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom@optonline.net> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices I tried, but when I tried to arrow down to ope in in plain text, the computer wouldn't speak. Pam.
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Format question about numbers -Windows 10, Office and Outlook 2013.
Carolyn Arnold
Does anyone know what steps to take to change my numbers from adding a suffix to the end? I can write 12:30, and it writes 12th:30 in some instances. I get nd on the end of twos and things like that, I would like to be able to control if I want to write 124th Street or that we have 124 cookies. It is working correctly in here, but very often, it adds a suffix when inappropriate, and I don’t know how to eliminate that. Thanks for help.
Best from,
Carolyn
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Re: Is there any way to completely turnoff my laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices
Pamela Dominguez
I tried, but when I tried to arrow down to ope in in plain text, the computer wouldn't speak. Pam.
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From: Carlos Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:11 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices There are several ways of converting a PDF file to a plain text file, including just opening it in Adobe Acrobat Reader and selecting "Save as Other" and then "Text" from the "File" menu. This will work with many PDF files unless they are protected and most manuals are not. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom@optonline.net> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices Okay, which ever way I find it, it will be a PDF, though? Then, I guess that leaves me out. I have never been able to read a PDF file. I have adobe, but I haven't been able to make it work. Pam. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4613/12552 - Release Date: 07/03/16
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Re: guide dog question?
luke scholey <lukescholey@...>
Hi all
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To be clear, i am from the uk and you can apply for a guidedog at any time past the age of 11. Obviously, the applicant must be responsible enough to care for the dog mostly by there self. Hope this helps, Luke
On 4 Jul 2016, at 13:52, Matt <matt.from.florida@gmail.com> wrote:
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[BNU] "Off topic": a book translation question
rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hello,
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Could someone help this user with their question, please? Their email can be found below, which allows you to contact them directly, should you wish. Sent from a BrailleNote
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From: andy shields <ashields2@frontier.com Subject: [BNU] "Off topic": a book translation question Date sent: Mon, 04 Jul 2016 05:19:46 -0400 Hello everyone, The subject line is that specific because this isn't a Braillenote-related issue, except that almost all of my reading and downloading is done in Braille on my Apex (latest upgrades in place.) But this is the only list I belong to, and I thought someone else might have encountered this situation. I occasionally find books that I've disanted for a long time, easily accessible for downloading, but, only available in a non-English version. Is there someplace online that I could submit the entire book file and get it translated into English? I've tried to research this quite thoroughly, but although there are many sources for online translation, all of them seem to refer to smaller items-words and phrases, or at most documents of 1000 words or so. I don't mind paying, if it's necessary, to get these books into a readable form. (There are 3 so far, in 3 different languages, and none are available from any of my usual sources in English, in any format. This includes some online libraries where you do have to pay.) Again, I would go to another list to ask this question if I knew of one. Andy ------------------------------- BNU: BrailleNote Users - a forum for users of BrailleNote family of products from Humanware. Website: www.braillenoteusers.info IMPORTANT: By default, replies will be sent to individuals. If you feel that your reply would be useful for others, please use "reply to all" feature in your email client. If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send an email with the subject line of "unsubscribe" to braillenote-request@freelists.org. You can also visit our list page at: www.freelists.org/list/braillenote From this page, you can unsubscribe, change email delivery settings and view list archives. If you have any comments or questions for list moderators, please send an email to braillenote-moderators@freelists.org. Thanks.
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Disregard Status Line Bug In Thunderbird
Ron Canazzi
Hi Group,
Well, I am glad to say, you can disregard the status line bug I reported in my last message to this list. It turns out I had a pop-under that I didn't see right away that was causing things to read improperly. It was that Microsoft Bug wanting me to upgrade to Windows 10. I thought I turned that off, but for some reason, it came back. Once I dismissed this bark screen, everything is normal again in Thunderbird. -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Talking Bathroom Scale
Gerald Levy
Here’s an update on my search for a new talking bathroom scale. I did
a little research on the Moshi Talking Scale and discovered that Independent
Living Aids is the only merchant that sells it, which explains why they
include the brand name in the product description. Obviously, it nobody
else sells it, then they can charge whatever they can get away with, which is
$50, which seems on the high side for a bare-bones talking scale. ButI
won’t let one of these blindness-products merchants pull a fast one on me
because I’m a savvy shopper. So after a little more research, I
discovered that the Moshi talking scale is actually sold as the mainstream
Newline SCB105 talking scale on Amazon.com for $24. I compared the
instructionn manual for the Moshi scale with the instruction manual for the
Newline scale, and voila, the language in both manuals is identical, and even
the voice prompts on both models are the same, which proves to me pretty
convincingly that the two models are actually the same scale sold under
different brand names. Plus, Amazon reviews of the Newline scale mention
that the speech is loud and clear, which I was able to corroborate after
listening to the audio tutorial for the Moshi scale on the ILA site. So
now I’m seriously considering the Newline scale. I will have to cobble
together another $25worth of merchandise to get free shipping, but that
shouldn’t be too difficult, as I can always find stuff to buy on
Amazon.com. ILA requires a minimum order of $75 to qualify for free
shipping, so why would I buy the Moshi scale from them when I can buy the
essentially identical Newline SCB105 scale from Amazon.com for half the
price?
Gerald
From: Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Talking Bathroom Scale Hi,
I’ve had good fortune with the talking scale by Moshi
#756907
that is its item number at independent living aids.
the only problem I continually encounter with talking bathroom scales is
often the foot containing the censor that determines when to activate it can
easily break if the unit is handled too roughly as happened to one of mine at
the hands of a cleaning helper; but again this seems common t all brands I’ve
tried of which there’ve been a few.
Over all this unit has a sturdy solid state feel to it and seems to be
accurate.
I’ve no experience with the other two brands mentioned in terms of bathroom
scales but like another poster mentioned I’ve used the my way kitchen scale and
have found it to be satisfactory for its intended purpose as well.
I hope that helps.
Robin
Happy Independence Day holiday, gang. Sorry I caused such a furor
over the article about the fatal self-driving car accident. But let’s get
back to practical technology. This morning, when I stepped on my Phoenix
by My Weigh talking scale for my monthly weigh-in, I discovered to my chagrin
that it was totally dead. I installed three different brand-new 9 volt
alkaline batteries to try to revive it, but no luck. So I’m in the market
for a new talking bathroom scale other than this one, which only lasted three
years with infrequent use. Amazon.com has a nice selection of talking
scales between $25 and $30, which is much cheaper than the blindness vendors
charge for the same products. I have narrowed my choices to either the
American Weigh 330CVS or the Taylor Precision 7084 talking scales, both of which
have received mostly positive reviews. Does anyone own one of these two
models, and if so, how accessible is it, and how loud and clear is the
speech? Are there any other models you guys would recommend? Please
provide specific brands and model numbers or names. Thanks for your
feedback.
Gerald
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Re: changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone
rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hi,
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Remember, though, if you want the preview, you need to have voiceover hints, else it won't read them. And those of us that are more of a power user, the double tap to open can become more than tedious. Thought I'd just point it out. Sent from a BrailleNote
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From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 08:49:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Well no but if you view your mail by thread then there is not much problem. You just open the thread and go to the bottom of it and start from the bottom up. For example there is thread talking about windows update and there is 10 messages in that thread. Just double tap on the thread called windows update then this will open that thread it will be from newest to oldest and you just flip left to right to get to the bottom or you can do a three finger flip up from the bottom of the screen and it will take you to the bottom of the thread or you can do touch by explore. Once you are at the bottom then you can start reading from the bottom up and you will be in oldest to newest. Now I myself read from newest to oldest and I have preview turn on for mail where it reads the first 5 lines without even open the message in the thread. For example I open the thread called windows update and then I just flick left to right and as I land on the message stop and pause and it will read the first 5 lines of it and I can tell if I want to open it up to read more or just flick up and choose delete or whatever action I want. I have the same thing set up on my PC preview messages without opening them. I don't know but maybe in IOS 10 they might have some more choices. On how you view your thread. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 6:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone Hi, Its frustrating, too. Since 2012, when I began using emails, I was reading from oldest to newest. When I found out that this couldn't be changed, you can imagine my reaction. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat" <bharat.b@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 15:23:09 +0530 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone Well, I must say, that's really odd! On 7/4/16, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, You can't change the order. Your best bet is, to go to the bottom of the screen (explore by touch near the home button) flick to the left till you come to the first email. Then, when you delete that email, it should open the next oldest one, although the next and previous buttons respectively, should do what you wanted them, too. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat" <bharat.b@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 12:26:12 +0530 Subject: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone hi all, i have an issue here i need your help with. whenever i go through a thread in the mail app on the Iphone, it displays the most recent mail on top & the oldest mail which in most cases is the originator of the thread at the bottom of the thread. Can you please direct as to how do i sort the mails in a sensible way? thank you, bharat.
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Re: guide dog question?
Matt
Well it depends on the place you are applying at! Also you can apply at say
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if the age to get one is 16 you can apply say at 15 as it takes a while sometime to find a match and how far they are behind. I would call the place you think you are going to get her one! Matt.from.florida@gmail.com
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Billy Inglis Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 7:28 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] guide dog question? thanks so much On 04/07/2016 10:40, Rajmund wrote: Hi,-- Billy Inglis
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