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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Hi,
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The correct handle is @msftenable. There are several routes people can take to submit feedback: 1. Accessibility Answer Desk. 2. Twitter. 3. For Insiders: Feedback Hub app. Cheers, Joseph
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norman Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 11:28 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I think if you could find the right person to submit them to it might. @msftaccess on twitter seems to be a good starting point. On 7/4/2016 11:45 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote: I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience.
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Re: Where is the gmail settings menu?
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
The gear icon is the “settings” link.
Make sure you’re in html view to locate that. I couldn’t find that in the standard view. I got confused about that to until one of my kids clicked it and I heard my screen reader say settings.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 11:57 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Where is the gmail settings menu?
I want to add my gmail account to windows live mail 2012. My directions say to log onto mail.google.com, click a gear icon, select settings and select either enable emap or enable pop3. I have mail.google.com set to basic html view as I will not run java script in any of my browsers. I don’t see a settings button or link which opens a menu to enable these services. Could someone tell me where it is?
Thanks very much, George
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Where is the gmail settings menu?
George <slr1bpz@...>
I want to add my gmail account to windows live mail 2012. My
directions say to log onto mail.google.com, click a gear icon, select settings
and select either enable emap or enable pop3. I have mail.google.com set
to basic html view as I will not run java script in any of my browsers.
I don’t see a settings button or link which opens a menu to enable these
services. Could someone tell me where it is?
Thanks very much,
George
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
#poll
Gene
Also, it appears to be a contradiction. You
say that Narrator is another option, yet you seem not to object to Narrator
becoming the only option as Voiceover is in Apple. We will not benefit if
our choices decrease in access software.
Gene
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From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows
Narrator screen reader? #poll is a cause for concern, not hope. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman" <lists@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll > Hi. > > Personally, i'm glad to see narator improvements. It's yet another option. > > I don't use it on my pc, but if it ever gets good enough i may seriously > consider switching to windows phone from android. > > I would really like features like continuom and some of the things along > that line that ms is doing. > > In addition, This would make yet another accessible platform that i can > use. > > Who knows, maybe some day narator will become to windows what voice over > is on the mac and all the other screen readers get sidelined because they > aren't keeping up. > > > > On 7/4/2016 12:13 PM, Carlos wrote: >> Yes, but who exactly is requesting all of these Narrator improvements? >> Not just based on this poll, but based on experience I don't believe most >> blind consumers are using Narrator frequently enough for it to warrant >> this much attention. Certainly not at the expense of effort which could >> be invested elsewhere. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" >> <joseph.lee22590@...> >> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator >> screen reader? #poll >> >> >> Hi, >> Things are implemented based on upvotes and severity of bugs. >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf >> Of Carlos >> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:00 AM >> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator >> screen reader? #poll >> >> I'm sure Microsoft already receives more than enough feedback, but like >> most large corporations they prioritize based on some secret formula >> unknown to the rest of us which usually has little to do with what >> consumers are actually requesting. In other words, they hear what they >> choose to hear and then do what they want to do. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...> >> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:45 AM >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator >> screen reader? #poll >> >> >> I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I >> know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we >> need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience. >> >> Bye for now, >> >> Carolyn >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf >> Of Carlos >> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM >> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator >> screen reader? #poll >> >> So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, >> for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. >> Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these >> scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these >> improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing >> more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or >> unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, >> these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste >> of effort. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@...> >> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator >> screen reader? #poll >> >> >> I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to >> help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. >> >> >> >> TerriLynne >> >> >> >> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk >> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM >> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator >> screen reader? #poll >> >> >> >> I only use Narrator for emergencies. >> >> >> >> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos >> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM >> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >> Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen >> reader? #poll >> >> >> >> A new poll has been created: >> >> Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. >> >> >> >> 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies >> 2. I never use Narrator >> 3. I use Narrator regularly >> >> Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
#poll
Carlos
Interestingly, what you are predicting in your last statement in my opinion is a cause for concern, not hope.
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From: "Norman" <lists@thekingstech.com> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Hi.
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Re: Format question about numbers -Windows 10, Office and Outlook 2013.
Carolyn Arnold
K that worked. Thanks.
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Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 1:43 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Format question about numbers -Windows 10, Office and Outlook 2013. Hi all, Think this is in autoformat as you type. It says replace numbers with ordinals or something like that. Just uncheck it. I think if you go into options when pressing alt-f you'll get to options and you can switch tabs there. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@samobile.net web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
#poll
Norman
I think if you could find the right person to submit them to it might.
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@msftaccess on twitter seems to be a good starting point.
On 7/4/2016 11:45 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience.
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Norman
Hi.
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Personally, i'm glad to see narator improvements. It's yet another option. I don't use it on my pc, but if it ever gets good enough i may seriously consider switching to windows phone from android. I would really like features like continuom and some of the things along that line that ms is doing. In addition, This would make yet another accessible platform that i can use. Who knows, maybe some day narator will become to windows what voice over is on the mac and all the other screen readers get sidelined because they aren't keeping up.
On 7/4/2016 12:13 PM, Carlos wrote:
Yes, but who exactly is requesting all of these Narrator improvements? Not just based on this poll, but based on experience I don't believe most blind consumers are using Narrator frequently enough for it to warrant this much attention. Certainly not at the expense of effort which could be invested elsewhere.
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
#poll
Carlos
Yes, that was my point. I could see how it might be useful in that case since you could not run any of the major screen readers like JAWS, Window Eyes, and NVDA.
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From: "Norman" <lists@thekingstech.com> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Hi.
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
#poll
Norman
Hi.
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Actually, you can run narator on windows phone.
On 7/4/2016 12:53 PM, Carlos wrote:
Although I could see how it might benefit Mobile Windows phone user since you won't be able to run any screen reader in that case.
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Re: Is there any way to completely turnoff my laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices
Gene
I don't know what problems you may be having with
your specific computer using Adobe. But there are other programs for
reading Adobe documents in plain text. One of them is available on the
Empowerment Zone site, at least it was. I saw somewhere recently that the
Empowerment Zone site had been hacked and I don't know what is available
now. I don't recall the name of the program.
Also, you may not have certain settings set
correctly in Adobe. I use these programs so seldom that I don't recall
details. But there is at least one setting you must change from the
default or Adobe won't work properly for screen-reader users. I think the
setting has something to do with protected mode but others will have to
comment.
If you can't use a program and you want to be able
to do what that program does, ask about alternatives. I haven't used the
Empowerment Zone program much so I don't know how it compares in rendering
documents. But there may be a number you can use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my
laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices computer wouldn't speak. Pam. -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:11 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices There are several ways of converting a PDF file to a plain text file, including just opening it in Adobe Acrobat Reader and selecting "Save as Other" and then "Text" from the "File" menu. This will work with many PDF files unless they are protected and most manuals are not. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices > Okay, which ever way I find it, it will be a PDF, though? Then, I guess > that leaves me out. I have never been able to read a PDF file. I have > adobe, but I haven't been able to make it work. Pam. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:05 PM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my laptop's > display in Windows like Android or I Devices > > It is often included in the root directory of the main drive of many > laptops > in PDF format. If not, you can look for it at the manufacturer's website > or > in a Google search by model number. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom@...> > To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:02 PM > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my laptop's > display in Windows like Android or I Devices > > >> Okay, how do I find my laptop user guide so that I can read it? Pam. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jeremy >> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 12:30 PM >> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >> laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices >> >> Search through your laptop user guide and look for the list of fn key >> combinations. >> >> JR >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf >> Of >> Curtis Delzer >> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:17 AM >> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >> laptop's >> display in Windows like Android or I Devices >> >> I do not have "projector only," only "pc screen" which appears to be the >> one selected. The others are "second screen, duplicate and extend." >> ----- >> Curtis Delzer, HS. >> K6VFO >> San Bernardino, CA >> >> On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:15:20 -0700 >> "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@...> wrote: >> >>> Will this stick after a restart of computer? >>> >>> JR >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On >>> Behalf Of Carlos >>> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:11 PM >>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io >>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >>> laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices >>> >>> Sigh. I just posted this one the other day and forgot about it. You >>> can >> try pressing WindowsKey+P and then select "Projector Only". >>> When you want to turn it back on, press WindowsKey+P again and select >> "Computer Only". >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...> >>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> >>> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:51 PM >>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >>> laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices >>> >>> >>> > Yes, most laptops should have an Fn shortcut for this which is >>> > certainly easier. Of course, if you want to do this on a desktop, >>> > you may have to look into more convoluted methods like DEVCON. >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@...> >>> > To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> >>> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:48 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >>> > laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices >>> > >>> > >>> > That DEVCON resource looks really cool. >>> > >>> > I suggest try path of least resistance first and give the backlight >>> > suggestion a read, and if it does nothing for you, then try the more >>> > involved suggestions. >>> > >>> > JR >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On >>> > Behalf Of Carlos >>> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:41 PM >>> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io >>> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >>> > laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices >>> > >>> > It should be possible to create a shortcut/hotkey which would >>> > disable the display and still allow you to continue using the >>> > computer with the DEVCON http://www.robvanderwoude.com/devcon.php >>> > utility, but the command would be machine specific since it uses >>> > hardware IDs to disable devices. >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@...> >>> > To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> >>> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:31 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >>> > laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices >>> > >>> > >>> > I think the person wants to turn off the monitor and continue using >>> > his/her computer. This tool and the previous will turn off the >>> > monitor, but once a key is pressed, the monitor will probably turn >>> > back on. These two tips are more of a sleep mode for the monitor >>> > rather than a way of permanently turning off monitor. >>> > >>> > Again, try the solution I suggested and hopefully your laptop user >>> > manual will contain information as to how to permanently turn off >>> > backlight of your computer. >>> > >>> > JR >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On >>> > Behalf Of Carlos >>> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:27 PM >>> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io >>> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >>> > laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices >>> > >>> > Or this utility. >>> > http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Launchers-Shutdown-Tools/Turn-Of >>> > f- >>> > Monitor-Factormystic.shtml >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: Sachin <mailto:sachinantony001@...> >>> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io >>> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:06 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >>> > laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Carlos, do you have any experience with any of those third-party >>> > utility. >>> > I am really concerned about this issue >>> > >>> > >>> > On 11/06/2016 8:05 AM, Carlos wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > There may be some third-party utilities which can do this, but short >>> > of Fn key shortcuts on laptops or completely disabling the display >>> > in Device Manager, there is no way that is built-in to Windows. >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: Sachin <mailto:sachinantony001@...> >>> > To: <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> main@TechTalk.groups.io >>> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:22 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >>> > laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Kimsan, first of all, I have an HP notebook. I doubt this method >>> > would turnoff display, however it would turn back on, when I start >>> > using the notebook. correct me if I am wrong. I want to do it like >>> > the screen >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Curtain on I phone. I do appreciate any tips on this matter & I >>> > wouldn't mind testing & experimenting, since I have Toolwiz Time >>> > Freeze >> installed. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On 10/06/2016 10:29 PM, Kimsan wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > What laptop/brand you have? >>> > The fn key with one of the function keys might do this, however, I >>> > would hate for you to fn and press a function key and not knowing >>> > what will occur, as your machine might blow up. >>> > On my Lenovo laptop, it's fn f9 to turn off the display. Not saying >>> > yours is the same, so I recommend consulting the manual for your >>> > laptop. >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On >>> > Behalf Of Sachin >>> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:35 AM >>> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io >>> > Subject: [TechTalk] Is there any way to completely turnoff my >>> > laptop's display in Windows like Android or I Devices >>> > >>> > Hello everyone, the subject line says it all. I am concerned about >>> > this because of some privacy issues. >>> > >>> > thanks in advance >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4613/12551 - Release Date: >> 07/03/16 >> >> >> > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4613/12552 - Release Date: 07/03/16 > > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4613/12552 - Release Date: 07/03/16
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Re: Searching groups.io archives
Carlos
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I don't believe groups.io allows for complex
searches in the archives at this point. If you type keywords in the
search field, it will search through both the subject and message
body. Although on the list of results you can sort messages by date or
relevance.
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Searching groups.io archives
Robin Frost
Hi,
I was wondering if someone could kindly show me how to do this efficiently
as so far it’s eluding me. For instance if one wanted to search for a
particular message or thread by subject or author how does one do it once at the
groups.io page for your group?
thanks for enlightening me and by extension others who might also have
wondered about such.
Robin
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Re: Format question about numbers -Windows 10, Office and Outlook 2013.
Ann Parsons <akp@...>
Hi all,
Think this is in autoformat as you type. It says replace numbers with ordinals or something like that. Just uncheck it. I think if you go into options when pressing alt-f you'll get to options and you can switch tabs there. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@samobile.net web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone
rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hi,
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You're misunderstanding me. Know how speech says something like "Extras folder, 6 apps. Double tap to open." You can turn off the a?no announcement of double tap to open, which is essentially the voice over hint. However, there is a bug, where if you do that, the email previews won't be read. Sent from a BrailleNote
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From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 13:27:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone No it has always been like that or you can set your rotor to action and just flip up to open or default action and it will open up with a double tap but still have the double tap. It been this way for ever. Now if you have 3d touch I sure you canusethat I don't exactly know how it works or with what it works with as I don't have 3d touch on my iPhone SE. but I think I would not use it myself. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:48 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Hi, And isn't the double tap to open annoying? Although, it also depends on your speech rate. It is certainly annoying at 100%. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 11:41:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Well it depends on the person and how they like their device setup! I consider myself a very advance or power user of the iphone. Since I had one since the 3gs came out in 2009. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:09 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Hi, Remember, though, if you want the preview, you need to have voiceover hints, else it won't read them. And those of us that are more of a power user, the double tap to open can become more than tedious. Thought I'd just point it out. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 08:49:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Well no but if you view your mail by thread then there is not much problem. You just open the thread and go to the bottom of it and start from the bottom up. For example there is thread talking about windows update and there is 10 messages in that thread. Just double tap on the thread called windows update then this will open that thread it will be from newest to oldest and you just flip left to right to get to the bottom or you can do a three finger flip up from the bottom of the screen and it will take you to the bottom of the thread or you can do touch by explore. Once you are at the bottom then you can start reading from the bottom up and you will be in oldest to newest. Now I myself read from newest to oldest and I have preview turn on for mail where it reads the first 5 lines without even open the message in the thread. For example I open the thread called windows update and then I just flick left to right and as I land on the message stop and pause and it will read the first 5 lines of it and I can tell if I want to open it up to read more or just flick up and choose delete or whatever action I want. I have the same thing set up on my PC preview messages without opening them. I don't know but maybe in IOS 10 they might have some more choices. On how you view your thread. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 6:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone Hi, Its frustrating, too. Since 2012, when I began using emails, I was reading from oldest to newest. When I found out that this couldn't be changed, you can imagine my reaction. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat" <bharat.b@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 15:23:09 +0530 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone Well, I must say, that's really odd! On 7/4/16, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, You can't change the order. Your best bet is, to go to the bottom of the screen (explore by touch near the home button) flick to the left till you come to the first email. Then, when you delete that email, it should open the next oldest one, although the next and previous buttons respectively, should do what you wanted them, too. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat" <bharat.b@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 12:26:12 +0530 Subject: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone hi all, i have an issue here i need your help with. whenever i go through a thread in the mail app on the Iphone, it displays the most recent mail on top & the oldest mail which in most cases is the originator of the thread at the bottom of the thread. Can you please direct as to how do i sort the mails in a sensible way? thank you, bharat.
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Re: changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone
Matt
No it has always been like that or you can set your rotor to action and just
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flip up to open or default action and it will open up with a double tap but still have the double tap. It been this way for ever. Now if you have 3d touch I sure you canusethat I don't exactly know how it works or with what it works with as I don't have 3d touch on my iPhone SE. but I think I would not use it myself. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:48 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Hi, And isn't the double tap to open annoying? Although, it also depends on your speech rate. It is certainly annoying at 100%. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 11:41:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Well it depends on the person and how they like their device setup! I consider myself a very advance or power user of the iphone. Since I had one since the 3gs came out in 2009. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:09 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Hi, Remember, though, if you want the preview, you need to have voiceover hints, else it won't read them. And those of us that are more of a power user, the double tap to open can become more than tedious. Thought I'd just point it out. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 08:49:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iPhone Well no but if you view your mail by thread then there is not much problem. You just open the thread and go to the bottom of it and start from the bottom up. For example there is thread talking about windows update and there is 10 messages in that thread. Just double tap on the thread called windows update then this will open that thread it will be from newest to oldest and you just flip left to right to get to the bottom or you can do a three finger flip up from the bottom of the screen and it will take you to the bottom of the thread or you can do touch by explore. Once you are at the bottom then you can start reading from the bottom up and you will be in oldest to newest. Now I myself read from newest to oldest and I have preview turn on for mail where it reads the first 5 lines without even open the message in the thread. For example I open the thread called windows update and then I just flick left to right and as I land on the message stop and pause and it will read the first 5 lines of it and I can tell if I want to open it up to read more or just flick up and choose delete or whatever action I want. I have the same thing set up on my PC preview messages without opening them. I don't know but maybe in IOS 10 they might have some more choices. On how you view your thread. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 6:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone Hi, Its frustrating, too. Since 2012, when I began using emails, I was reading from oldest to newest. When I found out that this couldn't be changed, you can imagine my reaction. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat" <bharat.b@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 15:23:09 +0530 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone Well, I must say, that's really odd! On 7/4/16, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, You can't change the order. Your best bet is, to go to the bottom of the screen (explore by touch near the home button) flick to the left till you come to the first email. Then, when you delete that email, it should open the next oldest one, although the next and previous buttons respectively, should do what you wanted them, too. Sent from a BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat" <bharat.b@gmail.com To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 12:26:12 +0530 Subject: [TechTalk] changing the display order of mails in the mail app iphone hi all, i have an issue here i need your help with. whenever i go through a thread in the mail app on the Iphone, it displays the most recent mail on top & the oldest mail which in most cases is the originator of the thread at the bottom of the thread. Can you please direct as to how do i sort the mails in a sensible way? thank you, bharat.
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Carlos
Although I could see how it might benefit Mobile Windows phone user since you won't be able to run any screen reader in that case.
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From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Except for the fact that on tablets running full-blown versions of Windows 10, which seems to be all of them at the moment, you can run any screen reader you like so you are not dependent on Narrator.
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drop down menu won't drop
Monte Single
My employer used to send me monthly pay statements as an attached pdf file. Now I must go to a web site where there is a drop down menu with choices. When I land on this link with current versions of nvda or jaws, I get no choices; does this have something to do with mouse over or such?
Thanks for help. Monte
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Carlos
GPS has massive applications in the consumer market in general. It is not really comparable to improvements in Narrator. Even before GPS became so hugely mainstream, it's development was driven by use for the military.
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From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@gmail.com> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Also, this is how software and R&DD works, not everything researched results
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Re: How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader?
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Carlos
Except for the fact that on tablets running full-blown versions of Windows 10, which seems to be all of them at the moment, you can run any screen reader you like so you are not dependent on Narrator.
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From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@gmail.com> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Maybe not ultimately on Windows, but it is very likely the narrator research and development might be targeted for platforms other than desktops such as tablets and phones. In other words, Narrator on the desktop has a huge pool of users, and the R&D resulting from this large group of users can be used on other platforms such as tablets. JR -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:13 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Yes, but who exactly is requesting all of these Narrator improvements? Not just based on this poll, but based on experience I don't believe most blind consumers are using Narrator frequently enough for it to warrant this much attention. Certainly not at the expense of effort which could be invested elsewhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll Hi, Things are implemented based on upvotes and severity of bugs. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:00 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I'm sure Microsoft already receives more than enough feedback, but like most large corporations they prioritize based on some secret formula unknown to the rest of us which usually has little to do with what consumers are actually requesting. In other words, they hear what they choose to hear and then do what they want to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I wonder if it would be helpful to submit these findings to Microsoft? I know they would not want to hear it. That's life though, sometimes, we need to hear it whether or not we want to. I know from experience. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:34 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll So far it seems that the only time anyone uses Narrator is as a backup, for emergencies, to finish setting up Windows, or for testing purposes. Since none of these new features significantly impact any of these scenarios except for testing, who exactly is benefiting from these improvements? As I said, for now Microsoft would be better off investing more time and effort improving accessibility in other areas. Until or unless Microsoft decides to turn it into a full-blown screen reader, these improvements to Narrator which almost no one will use are a waste of effort. ----- Original Message ----- From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I never use Narrator. It drives me crazy. I would rather find someone to help me or even take it to a business than deal with Narrator. TerriLynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll I only use Narrator for emergencies. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:39 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] How frequently do you use the Windows Narrator screen reader? #poll A new poll has been created: Just for fun and because we rarely use this feature. 1. I only use Narrator for emergencies 2. I never use Narrator 3. I use Narrator regularly Vote Now <https://TechTalk.groups.io/g/main/vote?pollid=137>
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