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Microsoft Security Essentials Not Updating Win 7

Margaret Thomas <iluvtoread@...>
 

Good Afternoon, All:

For the last couple of weeks, I've been getting the PC status potentially unprotected message in the notification area on my 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium computer and have gotten occasional nags that Microsoft Security Essentials should be updated. When I've tried to update clicking on the potentially unprotected in the notification area with JAWS 16 ; click open; and enter on the update button, it never gets past 29% and simultaneously says search and updating. I gave it at least half an hour with my latest try this afternoon. Yesterday, it said that virus and software definitions were last created 9 days ago. The closest I can get to the version of MSE is 4.8.04.0. Firefox 47.0 is the default browser and IE 11 is also installed.

Any help getting back to normal would be extremely appreciated.

Margaret


Re: Considering a cheap Dell laptop

Carolyn Arnold
 

I agree with that. After I bought mine, I thought, should I
have gotten 2 TB instead of one? Should I have gotten a
solid state hard drive? Well, 1 TB regular hard drive is
serving me well. I got it on sale, when it had Windows 8 and
took 130 updates. My husband said we'd just skip 8.1 and
download 10. We did. It works.

I had a Dell that lasted me for nine years. If this comes
anywhere close to that, I'll be happy. I Spent $549, really
did not want to go way up there with a computer. My grandson
said he could built all this stuff, and my husband said it
would have cost twice as much.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Considering a cheap Dell laptop

I didn't say people shouldn't satisfy wants. That's up to
them. I'm saying that I believe, though I haven't seen any
information about this, that a lot of people spend more,
perhaps considerably more, on computers than they need
tobecause they don't understand what will meet their needs.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<mailto:ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Considering a cheap Dell laptop


I am notorious for beating computers to death! After all,
the moment I take one out of a store, a portion of its value
is gone! Desktop ones I build personally; laptops I grab
off-the-shelf!



I currently have two laptops, a Sony Vaio and an Asus. The
latter runs Windows8.1, the former Windows7. I am putting
both through the paces but I like my Sony Vaio computer
better. Both were refurbished systems as I refused to pay
much more for a brand new computer that loses value quickly.
They lose value because they can never be rsold for any kind
of profit.



I agree with Gene; there's a difference between a need and a
want! Overpaying on a mainstream piece of equipment is just
satisfying a WANT, not a need! I need a computer to get
work done, I don't want it sitting on my desk gathering dust
because it has "something" I don't need but want later and
may never use. With my laptops, I am not using any cooling
pads; yet they stay on 24 hours a day, seven days a week
forever. They are only turned off when I am leaving town
for weeks unend.



Sincerely,

Olusegun

Denver, Colorado



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Re: email clients

Carolyn Arnold
 

If I could dismantle even the idea of collapse. If I want to get rid of a bunch of messages I can highlight them and hit Shift-Control-D, and they are out of the system.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

What screen reader are you using as this would be a screen reader option.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob J
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never did and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire lot with just one keystroke. However, when I press the delete key on one of these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all messages in that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to proceed. That is very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option to elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to fix this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and
is very complete. Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox
one can find the names of senders. In Outlook 2013 not all of my
contacts are listed in the contact list. However, if I do send an
e-mail to someone who is not in the contact list and start spelling
the name in the to field it will appear.

Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open
and read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the
Num Lock Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in
the box. It did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which
setting it takes to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed
that when addressing another problem I had. I can't even remember what
problem it was that they solved, but they did solve it along with
getting the reading to read for me. I had been told by a helpful
person showing me stuff in Outlook, that I couldn't read them, which,
of course, was right until Microsoft did whatever it was that they did to get it to read.

One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way
to do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

I really like Outlook Express. One of my computers has windows XP
with OE on it. It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed
up in the inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages. On
this computer I have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to understand.



Veronica





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
mainly. The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on
a computer where I was working, and they had it. I didn’t like all
the extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages. If you ask me
what, I can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about
something like ten years ago. Pam.



From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with
me for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb
drove me bonkers.



I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more
easier to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new
at the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I
have used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I
was in school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my
Desktop computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will
tell you one thing though, I would not mind assisting you with
Microsoft outlook if you

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On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > wrote:



this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:

Sent from my iPhone 5S


On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:

No he is most definitely not that Joseph.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?



Uh oh, off list email warning coming…



*flips table*



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new
engineers working on things best that you guys have to understand and
they're finally getting things right that's my thing on it.

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is
not unreasonable to expect it to be accessible. And I don't mean a
year after a major release of the operating system. From what I hear
the Windows Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely accessible.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if
you get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to
make it work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For
instance, Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not
accessible Wayne now it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long that took.

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
operating system like the mail client yes. That is not quote unquote
playing the blind card. It is called expecting the same level of
accessibility which is available to everyone else. You would not have
nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
inaccessibility.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be
able to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as
long as you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody
or those people that Believe that everything free should always be
accessible are just the ones that want to play the blind card.

Joseph Hudson

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net
<mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net> > wrote:



How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a link from an
email now, because my browser is Internet Explorer, not Edge. When I
first got my computer, every link in an email would open, no problem.
Also, I could hit Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I
am getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I never got
it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be, but to think that it
was and now is not, well, anyway, you are just so right.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. There
may be other free programs that would meet peoples' needs well, too.
I would never pay for an e-mail program with such free choices
available.

Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one penny
from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a year, it still
hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app properly accessible. If
anything, Microsoft should be giving Outlook away to blind users
because of its inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
available after a year.

It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people use Outlook.
In other words, it recommends that blind people use a program they
have to pay Microsoft for. So the blog is recommending that Microsoft
profit from its inexcuseable accessibility failure.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What You were
talking about wanting easy software to navigate around to pretty much
do Basic emailing. The one that is that is as easy as the outlook
express email know I have arty seen that you downloaded Windows live
Mail 2009, would be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money
it works very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I recommend
going to your local computer store and investing in that here you I
don't know if this is a computer, that you're using for school or if
you got it for personal use but a definite good recommendation. For
you would be that particular email client.

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On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
<brajmund2000@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com>
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > >
wrote:

Hello,
So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog, because of a
recent issue I've been having, it helped my touch typing. So now, I
want to set up email on this thing.
I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I consider
unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know outlook is the
same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably menu based, to make it
easy. The more basic, the better. Any free solutions out there? Which
version of windows mail has menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook
express, what could be the possible complications? If I don't know of
anything, that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
opened. Thanks!

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Re: email clients

Bob J
 

Mike,
 
Bingo!  WLM2009 does provide that option and I now have chosen it!
 
Thanks much for informed response!
 
Bob
 
 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hi Bob,
With Outlook Express when I press delete on a collapsed group of messages I get the following message:
 
Outlook Express
Messages in the selected collapsed conversations will also
be deleted.  Do you wish to continue?
Don't ask me this again.
Yes No
 
You can tab through this dialogue to check the , Don't ask me this again, option, but I don't know if WLM has this option or gives you the above dialogue when deleting a collapsed group of messages.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob J
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition
machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my
WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook
Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never did
and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire lot
with just one keystroke.  However, when I press the delete key on one of
these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all messages in
that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to proceed. That is
very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option to
elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to fix
this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

> True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Veronica Kirk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and is
> very complete.  Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox one can
> find the names of senders.  In Outlook 2013 not all of my contacts are
> listed in the contact list.  However, if I do send an e-mail to someone
> who is not in the contact list and start spelling the name in the to field
> it will appear.
>
> Veronica
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
> different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open and
> read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the Num Lock
> Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in the box. It
> did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which setting it takes
> to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed that when addressing
> another problem I had. I can't even remember what problem it was that they
> solved, but they did solve it along with getting the reading to read for
> me. I had been told by a helpful person showing me stuff in Outlook, that
> I couldn't read them, which, of course, was right until Microsoft did
> whatever it was that they did to get it to read.
>
> One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
> press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way to
> do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Veronica Kirk
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> I really like Outlook Express.  One of my computers has windows XP with OE
> on it.  It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed up in the
> inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages.  On this computer I
> have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to understand.
>
>
>
> Veronica
>
>
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Pamela Dominguez
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
> mainly.  The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on a
> computer where I was working, and they had it.  I didn’t like all the
> extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages.  If you ask me what, I
> can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about something like ten
> years ago.  Pam.
>
>
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with me
> for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
> Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb drove
> me bonkers.
>
>
>
> I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more easier
> to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
> Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new at
> the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I have
> used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I was in
> school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my Desktop
> computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will tell you one
> thing though, I would not mind assisting you with Microsoft outlook if you
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...
> <mailto:brajmund2000@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>
>
> On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
> No he is most definitely not that Joseph.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?
>
>
>
> Uh oh, off list email warning coming…
>
>
>
> *flips table*
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new engineers
> working on things best that you guys have to understand and they're
> finally getting things right that's my thing on it.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is not
> unreasonable to expect it to be accessible.  And I don't mean a year after
> a major release of the operating system.  From what I hear the Windows
> Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely accessible.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if you
> get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to make it
> work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For instance,
> Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not accessible Wayne now
> it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long that took.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
> operating system like the mail client yes.  That is not quote unquote
> playing the blind card.  It is called expecting the same level of
> accessibility which is available to everyone else.  You would not have
> nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
> inaccessibility.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be able
> to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as long as
> you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody or those
> people that Believe that everything free should always be accessible are
> just the ones that want to play the blind card.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...
> <mailto:4carolyna@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a
> link from an email now, because my browser is Internet
> Explorer, not Edge. When I first got my computer, every link
> in an email would open, no problem. Also, I could hit
> Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I am
> getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I
> never got it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be,
> but to think that it was and now is not, well, anyway, you
> are just so right.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
> Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or
> Thunderbird.  There may be other free programs that would
> meet peoples' needs well, too.  I would never pay for an
> e-mail program with such free choices available.
>
> Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one
> penny from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a
> year, it still hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app
> properly accessible.  If anything, Microsoft should be
> giving Outlook away to blind users because of its
> inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
> available after a year.
>
> It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people
> use Outlook.  In other words, it recommends that blind
> people use a program they have to pay Microsoft for.  So the
> blog is recommending that Microsoft profit from its
> inexcuseable accessibility failure.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What
> You were talking about wanting easy software to navigate
> around to pretty much do Basic emailing. The one that is
> that is as easy as the outlook express email know I have
> arty seen that you downloaded Windows live Mail 2009, would
> be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money it works
> very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
> also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I
> recommend going to your local computer store and investing
> in that here you I don't know if this is a computer, that
> you're using for school or if you got it for personal use
> but a definite good recommendation. For you would be that
> particular email client.
>
> Joseph Hudson
> Email
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>  <mailto:jhud7789@...
> <mailto:jhud7789@...> > I device
> support Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>  <mailto:jhud7789@...
> <mailto:jhud7789@...> >
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
> <brajmund2000@... <mailto:brajmund2000@...>
> <mailto:brajmund2000@... <mailto:brajmund2000@...> > >
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog,
> because of a recent issue I've been having, it helped my
> touch typing. So now, I want to set up email on this thing.
> I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I
> consider unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know
> outlook is the same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably
> menu based, to make it easy. The more basic, the better. Any
> free solutions out there? Which version of windows mail has
> menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook express, what could be
> the possible complications? If I don't know of anything,
> that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
> opened. Thanks!
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And got it installed. I will teach you how to ribbons, and the little
> menus that go with it.
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
> Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4627/12605 - Release Date: 07/12/16
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: email clients

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Bob,
With Outlook Express when I press delete on a collapsed group of messages I get the following message:
 
Outlook Express
Messages in the selected collapsed conversations will also
be deleted.  Do you wish to continue?
Don't ask me this again.
Yes No
 
You can tab through this dialogue to check the , Don't ask me this again, option, but I don't know if WLM has this option or gives you the above dialogue when deleting a collapsed group of messages.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob J
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition
machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my
WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook
Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never did
and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire lot
with just one keystroke.  However, when I press the delete key on one of
these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all messages in
that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to proceed. That is
very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option to
elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to fix
this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

> True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Veronica Kirk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and is
> very complete.  Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox one can
> find the names of senders.  In Outlook 2013 not all of my contacts are
> listed in the contact list.  However, if I do send an e-mail to someone
> who is not in the contact list and start spelling the name in the to field
> it will appear.
>
> Veronica
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
> different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open and
> read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the Num Lock
> Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in the box. It
> did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which setting it takes
> to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed that when addressing
> another problem I had. I can't even remember what problem it was that they
> solved, but they did solve it along with getting the reading to read for
> me. I had been told by a helpful person showing me stuff in Outlook, that
> I couldn't read them, which, of course, was right until Microsoft did
> whatever it was that they did to get it to read.
>
> One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
> press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way to
> do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Veronica Kirk
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> I really like Outlook Express.  One of my computers has windows XP with OE
> on it.  It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed up in the
> inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages.  On this computer I
> have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to understand.
>
>
>
> Veronica
>
>
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Pamela Dominguez
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
> mainly.  The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on a
> computer where I was working, and they had it.  I didn’t like all the
> extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages.  If you ask me what, I
> can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about something like ten
> years ago.  Pam.
>
>
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with me
> for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
> Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb drove
> me bonkers.
>
>
>
> I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more easier
> to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
> Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new at
> the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I have
> used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I was in
> school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my Desktop
> computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will tell you one
> thing though, I would not mind assisting you with Microsoft outlook if you
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...
> <mailto:brajmund2000@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>
>
> On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
> No he is most definitely not that Joseph.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?
>
>
>
> Uh oh, off list email warning coming…
>
>
>
> *flips table*
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new engineers
> working on things best that you guys have to understand and they're
> finally getting things right that's my thing on it.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is not
> unreasonable to expect it to be accessible.  And I don't mean a year after
> a major release of the operating system.  From what I hear the Windows
> Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely accessible.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if you
> get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to make it
> work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For instance,
> Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not accessible Wayne now
> it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long that took.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
> operating system like the mail client yes.  That is not quote unquote
> playing the blind card.  It is called expecting the same level of
> accessibility which is available to everyone else.  You would not have
> nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
> inaccessibility.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be able
> to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as long as
> you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody or those
> people that Believe that everything free should always be accessible are
> just the ones that want to play the blind card.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...
> <mailto:4carolyna@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a
> link from an email now, because my browser is Internet
> Explorer, not Edge. When I first got my computer, every link
> in an email would open, no problem. Also, I could hit
> Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I am
> getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I
> never got it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be,
> but to think that it was and now is not, well, anyway, you
> are just so right.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
> Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or
> Thunderbird.  There may be other free programs that would
> meet peoples' needs well, too.  I would never pay for an
> e-mail program with such free choices available.
>
> Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one
> penny from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a
> year, it still hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app
> properly accessible.  If anything, Microsoft should be
> giving Outlook away to blind users because of its
> inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
> available after a year.
>
> It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people
> use Outlook.  In other words, it recommends that blind
> people use a program they have to pay Microsoft for.  So the
> blog is recommending that Microsoft profit from its
> inexcuseable accessibility failure.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What
> You were talking about wanting easy software to navigate
> around to pretty much do Basic emailing. The one that is
> that is as easy as the outlook express email know I have
> arty seen that you downloaded Windows live Mail 2009, would
> be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money it works
> very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
> also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I
> recommend going to your local computer store and investing
> in that here you I don't know if this is a computer, that
> you're using for school or if you got it for personal use
> but a definite good recommendation. For you would be that
> particular email client.
>
> Joseph Hudson
> Email
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>  <mailto:jhud7789@...
> <mailto:jhud7789@...> > I device
> support Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>  <mailto:jhud7789@...
> <mailto:jhud7789@...> >
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
> <brajmund2000@... <mailto:brajmund2000@...>
> <mailto:brajmund2000@... <mailto:brajmund2000@...> > >
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog,
> because of a recent issue I've been having, it helped my
> touch typing. So now, I want to set up email on this thing.
> I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I
> consider unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know
> outlook is the same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably
> menu based, to make it easy. The more basic, the better. Any
> free solutions out there? Which version of windows mail has
> menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook express, what could be
> the possible complications? If I don't know of anything,
> that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
> opened. Thanks!
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And got it installed. I will teach you how to ribbons, and the little
> menus that go with it.
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
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Re: email clients

Bob J
 

Gene, you are so insightful!
 
All I need to do is press the spacebar, even easier than a two-key keystroke!
 
Thanks for being there!
 
Bob
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

You may just have to put up with it.  There may be a setting I don't know about but I have never seen a setting to change this behavior.  Instead of listening to it, isn't there a combination you can press such as alt y the moment you hear the announcement start to be spoken?  I would think that you are in a dialog and that there would be such a fast and convenient way to do this.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob J
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition
machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my
WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook
Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never did
and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire lot
with just one keystroke.  However, when I press the delete key on one of
these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all messages in
that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to proceed. That is
very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option to
elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to fix
this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


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From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

> True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Veronica Kirk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and is
> very complete.  Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox one can
> find the names of senders.  In Outlook 2013 not all of my contacts are
> listed in the contact list.  However, if I do send an e-mail to someone
> who is not in the contact list and start spelling the name in the to field
> it will appear.
>
> Veronica
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
> different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open and
> read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the Num Lock
> Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in the box. It
> did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which setting it takes
> to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed that when addressing
> another problem I had. I can't even remember what problem it was that they
> solved, but they did solve it along with getting the reading to read for
> me. I had been told by a helpful person showing me stuff in Outlook, that
> I couldn't read them, which, of course, was right until Microsoft did
> whatever it was that they did to get it to read.
>
> One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
> press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way to
> do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Veronica Kirk
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> I really like Outlook Express.  One of my computers has windows XP with OE
> on it.  It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed up in the
> inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages.  On this computer I
> have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to understand.
>
>
>
> Veronica
>
>
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Pamela Dominguez
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
> mainly.  The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on a
> computer where I was working, and they had it.  I didn’t like all the
> extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages.  If you ask me what, I
> can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about something like ten
> years ago.  Pam.
>
>
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with me
> for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
> Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb drove
> me bonkers.
>
>
>
> I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more easier
> to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
> Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new at
> the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I have
> used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I was in
> school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my Desktop
> computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will tell you one
> thing though, I would not mind assisting you with Microsoft outlook if you
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...
> <mailto:brajmund2000@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>
>
> On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
> No he is most definitely not that Joseph.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?
>
>
>
> Uh oh, off list email warning coming…
>
>
>
> *flips table*
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new engineers
> working on things best that you guys have to understand and they're
> finally getting things right that's my thing on it.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is not
> unreasonable to expect it to be accessible.  And I don't mean a year after
> a major release of the operating system.  From what I hear the Windows
> Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely accessible.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if you
> get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to make it
> work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For instance,
> Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not accessible Wayne now
> it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long that took.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
> operating system like the mail client yes.  That is not quote unquote
> playing the blind card.  It is called expecting the same level of
> accessibility which is available to everyone else.  You would not have
> nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
> inaccessibility.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be able
> to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as long as
> you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody or those
> people that Believe that everything free should always be accessible are
> just the ones that want to play the blind card.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...
> <mailto:4carolyna@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a
> link from an email now, because my browser is Internet
> Explorer, not Edge. When I first got my computer, every link
> in an email would open, no problem. Also, I could hit
> Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I am
> getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I
> never got it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be,
> but to think that it was and now is not, well, anyway, you
> are just so right.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
> Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or
> Thunderbird.  There may be other free programs that would
> meet peoples' needs well, too.  I would never pay for an
> e-mail program with such free choices available.
>
> Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one
> penny from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a
> year, it still hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app
> properly accessible.  If anything, Microsoft should be
> giving Outlook away to blind users because of its
> inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
> available after a year.
>
> It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people
> use Outlook.  In other words, it recommends that blind
> people use a program they have to pay Microsoft for.  So the
> blog is recommending that Microsoft profit from its
> inexcuseable accessibility failure.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What
> You were talking about wanting easy software to navigate
> around to pretty much do Basic emailing. The one that is
> that is as easy as the outlook express email know I have
> arty seen that you downloaded Windows live Mail 2009, would
> be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money it works
> very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
> also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I
> recommend going to your local computer store and investing
> in that here you I don't know if this is a computer, that
> you're using for school or if you got it for personal use
> but a definite good recommendation. For you would be that
> particular email client.
>
> Joseph Hudson
> Email
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>  <mailto:jhud7789@...
> <mailto:jhud7789@...> > I device
> support Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>  <mailto:jhud7789@...
> <mailto:jhud7789@...> >
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
> <brajmund2000@... <mailto:brajmund2000@...>
> <mailto:brajmund2000@... <mailto:brajmund2000@...> > >
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog,
> because of a recent issue I've been having, it helped my
> touch typing. So now, I want to set up email on this thing.
> I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I
> consider unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know
> outlook is the same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably
> menu based, to make it easy. The more basic, the better. Any
> free solutions out there? Which version of windows mail has
> menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook express, what could be
> the possible complications? If I don't know of anything,
> that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
> opened. Thanks!
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And got it installed. I will teach you how to ribbons, and the little
> menus that go with it.
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
> Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4627/12605 - Release Date: 07/12/16
>
>
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>
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>




Re: email clients

Bob J
 

Right! I didn't believe it to be a screen-reader option and I understand
why it is there, however, I believe it to be overkill and, if it is not
possible to disable it, it should be and shame on Microsoft for such an
insult to the intelligence of their customers.

Bob



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:52 PM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

This is not a screen reader option. It is built-in to the client as a
protection against unintentionally deleting multiple messages at once. I
don't have Windows Live Mail installed at the moment, but I would be
surprised if this dialog/warning can be disabled.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients


What screen reader are you using as this would be a screen reader option.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Bob J
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition
machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my
WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook
Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never
did
and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire
lot
with just one keystroke. However, when I press the delete key on one of
these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all messages
in
that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to proceed. That is
very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option
to
elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to fix
this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and
is very complete. Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox
one can find the names of senders. In Outlook 2013 not all of my
contacts are listed in the contact list. However, if I do send an
e-mail to someone who is not in the contact list and start spelling
the name in the to field it will appear.

Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open
and read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the
Num Lock Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in
the box. It did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which
setting it takes to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed
that when addressing another problem I had. I can't even remember what
problem it was that they solved, but they did solve it along with
getting the reading to read for me. I had been told by a helpful
person showing me stuff in Outlook, that I couldn't read them, which,
of course, was right until Microsoft did whatever it was that they did to
get it to read.

One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way
to do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

I really like Outlook Express. One of my computers has windows XP
with OE on it. It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed
up in the inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages. On
this computer I have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to
understand.



Veronica





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
mainly. The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on
a computer where I was working, and they had it. I didn’t like all
the extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages. If you ask me
what, I can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about
something like ten years ago. Pam.



From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with
me for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb
drove me bonkers.



I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more
easier to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new
at the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I
have used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I
was in school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my
Desktop computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will
tell you one thing though, I would not mind assisting you with
Microsoft outlook if you

Joseph Hudson

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On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > wrote:



this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:

Sent from my iPhone 5S


On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:

No he is most definitely not that Joseph.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?



Uh oh, off list email warning coming…



*flips table*



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new
engineers working on things best that you guys have to understand and
they're finally getting things right that's my thing on it.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is
not unreasonable to expect it to be accessible. And I don't mean a
year after a major release of the operating system. From what I hear
the Windows Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely
accessible.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if
you get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to
make it work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For
instance, Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not
accessible Wayne now it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long
that
took.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
operating system like the mail client yes. That is not quote unquote
playing the blind card. It is called expecting the same level of
accessibility which is available to everyone else. You would not have
nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
inaccessibility.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be
able to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as
long as you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody
or those people that Believe that everything free should always be
accessible are just the ones that want to play the blind card.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net
<mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net> > wrote:



How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a link from an
email now, because my browser is Internet Explorer, not Edge. When I
first got my computer, every link in an email would open, no problem.
Also, I could hit Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I
am getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I never got
it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be, but to think that it
was and now is not, well, anyway, you are just so right.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. There
may be other free programs that would meet peoples' needs well, too.
I would never pay for an e-mail program with such free choices
available.

Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one penny
from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a year, it still
hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app properly accessible. If
anything, Microsoft should be giving Outlook away to blind users
because of its inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
available after a year.

It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people use Outlook.
In other words, it recommends that blind people use a program they
have to pay Microsoft for. So the blog is recommending that Microsoft
profit from its inexcuseable accessibility failure.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What You were
talking about wanting easy software to navigate around to pretty much
do Basic emailing. The one that is that is as easy as the outlook
express email know I have arty seen that you downloaded Windows live
Mail 2009, would be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money
it works very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I recommend
going to your local computer store and investing in that here you I
don't know if this is a computer, that you're using for school or if
you got it for personal use but a definite good recommendation. For
you would be that particular email client.

Joseph Hudson
Email
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On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
<brajmund2000@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com>
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > >
wrote:

Hello,
So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog, because of a
recent issue I've been having, it helped my touch typing. So now, I
want to set up email on this thing.
I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I consider
unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know outlook is the
same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably menu based, to make it
easy. The more basic, the better. Any free solutions out there? Which
version of windows mail has menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook
express, what could be the possible complications? If I don't know of
anything, that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
opened. Thanks!

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Re: email clients

Gene
 

This has nothing to do with a screen-reader.  The program is prompting on deletion command.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

What screen reader are you using as this would be a screen reader option.


Matt.from.florida@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob J
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never did and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire lot with just one keystroke.  However, when I press the delete key on one of these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all messages in that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to proceed. That is very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option to elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to fix this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

> True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
> Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and
> is very complete.  Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox
> one can find the names of senders.  In Outlook 2013 not all of my
> contacts are listed in the contact list.  However, if I do send an
> e-mail to someone who is not in the contact list and start spelling
> the name in the to field it will appear.
>
> Veronica
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
> different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open
> and read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the
> Num Lock Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in
> the box. It did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which
> setting it takes to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed
> that when addressing another problem I had. I can't even remember what
> problem it was that they solved, but they did solve it along with
> getting the reading to read for me. I had been told by a helpful
> person showing me stuff in Outlook, that I couldn't read them, which,
> of course, was right until Microsoft did whatever it was that they did to get it to read.
>
> One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
> press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way
> to do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
> Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> I really like Outlook Express.  One of my computers has windows XP
> with OE on it.  It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed
> up in the inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages.  On
> this computer I have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to understand.
>
>
>
> Veronica
>
>
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
> Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
> mainly.  The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on
> a computer where I was working, and they had it.  I didn’t like all
> the extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages.  If you ask me
> what, I can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about
> something like ten years ago.  Pam.
>
>
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with
> me for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
> Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb
> drove me bonkers.
>
>
>
> I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more
> easier to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
> Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new
> at the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I
> have used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I
> was in school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my
> Desktop computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will
> tell you one thing though, I would not mind assisting you with
> Microsoft outlook if you
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...
> <mailto:brajmund2000@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>
>
> On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
> No he is most definitely not that Joseph.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?
>
>
>
> Uh oh, off list email warning coming…
>
>
>
> *flips table*
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new
> engineers working on things best that you guys have to understand and
> they're finally getting things right that's my thing on it.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
> <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is
> not unreasonable to expect it to be accessible.  And I don't mean a
> year after a major release of the operating system.  From what I hear
> the Windows Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely accessible.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if
> you get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to
> make it work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For
> instance, Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not
> accessible Wayne now it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long that took.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
> <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
> operating system like the mail client yes.  That is not quote unquote
> playing the blind card.  It is called expecting the same level of
> accessibility which is available to everyone else.  You would not have
> nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
> inaccessibility.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be
> able to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as
> long as you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody
> or those people that Believe that everything free should always be
> accessible are just the ones that want to play the blind card.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
> <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...
> <mailto:4carolyna@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a link from an
> email now, because my browser is Internet Explorer, not Edge. When I
> first got my computer, every link in an email would open, no problem.
> Also, I could hit Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I
> am getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I never got
> it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be, but to think that it
> was and now is not, well, anyway, you are just so right.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
> Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird.  There
> may be other free programs that would meet peoples' needs well, too.
> I would never pay for an e-mail program with such free choices
> available.
>
> Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one penny
> from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a year, it still
> hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app properly accessible.  If
> anything, Microsoft should be giving Outlook away to blind users
> because of its inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
> available after a year.
>
> It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people use Outlook.
> In other words, it recommends that blind people use a program they
> have to pay Microsoft for.  So the blog is recommending that Microsoft
> profit from its inexcuseable accessibility failure.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What You were
> talking about wanting easy software to navigate around to pretty much
> do Basic emailing. The one that is that is as easy as the outlook
> express email know I have arty seen that you downloaded Windows live
> Mail 2009, would be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money
> it works very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
> also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I recommend
> going to your local computer store and investing in that here you I
> don't know if this is a computer, that you're using for school or if
> you got it for personal use but a definite good recommendation. For
> you would be that particular email client.
>
> Joseph Hudson
> Email
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
> <mailto:jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> > I device
> support Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
> <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
> <mailto:jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> >
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
> <brajmund2000@... <mailto:brajmund2000@...>
> <mailto:brajmund2000@... <mailto:brajmund2000@...> > >
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog, because of a
> recent issue I've been having, it helped my touch typing. So now, I
> want to set up email on this thing.
> I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I consider
> unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know outlook is the
> same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably menu based, to make it
> easy. The more basic, the better. Any free solutions out there? Which
> version of windows mail has menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook
> express, what could be the possible complications? If I don't know of
> anything, that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
> opened. Thanks!
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
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> And got it installed. I will teach you how to ribbons, and the little
> menus that go with it.
>
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Re: email clients

Gene
 

You may just have to put up with it.  There may be a setting I don't know about but I have never seen a setting to change this behavior.  Instead of listening to it, isn't there a combination you can press such as alt y the moment you hear the announcement start to be spoken?  I would think that you are in a dialog and that there would be such a fast and convenient way to do this.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob J
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition
machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my
WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook
Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never did
and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire lot
with just one keystroke.  However, when I press the delete key on one of
these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all messages in
that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to proceed. That is
very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option to
elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to fix
this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

> True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Veronica Kirk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and is
> very complete.  Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox one can
> find the names of senders.  In Outlook 2013 not all of my contacts are
> listed in the contact list.  However, if I do send an e-mail to someone
> who is not in the contact list and start spelling the name in the to field
> it will appear.
>
> Veronica
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
> different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open and
> read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the Num Lock
> Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in the box. It
> did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which setting it takes
> to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed that when addressing
> another problem I had. I can't even remember what problem it was that they
> solved, but they did solve it along with getting the reading to read for
> me. I had been told by a helpful person showing me stuff in Outlook, that
> I couldn't read them, which, of course, was right until Microsoft did
> whatever it was that they did to get it to read.
>
> One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
> press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way to
> do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Veronica Kirk
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> I really like Outlook Express.  One of my computers has windows XP with OE
> on it.  It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed up in the
> inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages.  On this computer I
> have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to understand.
>
>
>
> Veronica
>
>
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of Pamela Dominguez
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
> mainly.  The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on a
> computer where I was working, and they had it.  I didn’t like all the
> extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages.  If you ask me what, I
> can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about something like ten
> years ago.  Pam.
>
>
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with me
> for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
> Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb drove
> me bonkers.
>
>
>
> I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more easier
> to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
> Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new at
> the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I have
> used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I was in
> school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my Desktop
> computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will tell you one
> thing though, I would not mind assisting you with Microsoft outlook if you
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...
> <mailto:brajmund2000@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>
>
> On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
> No he is most definitely not that Joseph.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?
>
>
>
> Uh oh, off list email warning coming…
>
>
>
> *flips table*
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new engineers
> working on things best that you guys have to understand and they're
> finally getting things right that's my thing on it.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is not
> unreasonable to expect it to be accessible.  And I don't mean a year after
> a major release of the operating system.  From what I hear the Windows
> Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely accessible.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if you
> get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to make it
> work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For instance,
> Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not accessible Wayne now
> it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long that took.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...
> <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
> operating system like the mail client yes.  That is not quote unquote
> playing the blind card.  It is called expecting the same level of
> accessibility which is available to everyone else.  You would not have
> nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
> inaccessibility.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
>
>
> Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be able
> to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as long as
> you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody or those
> people that Believe that everything free should always be accessible are
> just the ones that want to play the blind card.
>
> Joseph Hudson
>
> Email
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
> I device support
>
> Telephone
>
> 2543007667
>
> Skype
>
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>
> Twitter
>
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
>
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...
> <mailto:4carolyna@...> > wrote:
>
>
>
> How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a
> link from an email now, because my browser is Internet
> Explorer, not Edge. When I first got my computer, every link
> in an email would open, no problem. Also, I could hit
> Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I am
> getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I
> never got it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be,
> but to think that it was and now is not, well, anyway, you
> are just so right.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
> Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or
> Thunderbird.  There may be other free programs that would
> meet peoples' needs well, too.  I would never pay for an
> e-mail program with such free choices available.
>
> Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one
> penny from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a
> year, it still hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app
> properly accessible.  If anything, Microsoft should be
> giving Outlook away to blind users because of its
> inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
> available after a year.
>
> It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people
> use Outlook.  In other words, it recommends that blind
> people use a program they have to pay Microsoft for.  So the
> blog is recommending that Microsoft profit from its
> inexcuseable accessibility failure.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients
>
> Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What
> You were talking about wanting easy software to navigate
> around to pretty much do Basic emailing. The one that is
> that is as easy as the outlook express email know I have
> arty seen that you downloaded Windows live Mail 2009, would
> be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money it works
> very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
> also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I
> recommend going to your local computer store and investing
> in that here you I don't know if this is a computer, that
> you're using for school or if you got it for personal use
> but a definite good recommendation. For you would be that
> particular email client.
>
> Joseph Hudson
> Email
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>  <mailto:jhud7789@...
> <mailto:jhud7789@...> > I device
> support Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>  <mailto:jhud7789@...
> <mailto:jhud7789@...> >
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
> <brajmund2000@... <mailto:brajmund2000@...>
> <mailto:brajmund2000@... <mailto:brajmund2000@...> > >
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog,
> because of a recent issue I've been having, it helped my
> touch typing. So now, I want to set up email on this thing.
> I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I
> consider unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know
> outlook is the same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably
> menu based, to make it easy. The more basic, the better. Any
> free solutions out there? Which version of windows mail has
> menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook express, what could be
> the possible complications? If I don't know of anything,
> that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
> opened. Thanks!
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And got it installed. I will teach you how to ribbons, and the little
> menus that go with it.
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
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Re: Considering a cheap Dell laptop

Gene
 

I didn't say people shouldn't satisfy wants.  That's up to them.  I'm saying that I believe, though I haven't seen any information about this, that a lot of people spend more, perhaps considerably more, on computers than they need tobecause they don't understand what will meet their needs.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Considering a cheap Dell laptop

I am notorious for beating computers to death!  After all, the moment I take one out of a store, a portion of its value is gone!  Desktop ones I build personally; laptops I grab off-the-shelf! 

 

I currently have two laptops, a Sony Vaio and an Asus.  The latter runs Windows8.1, the former Windows7.  I am putting both through the paces but I like my Sony Vaio computer better.  Both were refurbished systems as I refused to pay much more for a brand new computer that loses value quickly.  They lose value because they can never be rsold for any kind of profit. 

 

I agree with Gene; there's a difference between a need and a want!  Overpaying on a mainstream piece of equipment is just satisfying a WANT, not a need!  I need a computer to get work done, I don't want it sitting on my desk gathering dust because it has "something" I don't need but want later and may never use.  With my laptops, I am not using any cooling pads; yet they stay on 24 hours a day, seven days a week forever.  They are only turned off when I am leaving town for weeks unend. 

 

Sincerely,

Olusegun

Denver, Colorado


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: email clients

Carlos
 

This is not a screen reader option. It is built-in to the client as a
protection against unintentionally deleting multiple messages at once. I
don't have Windows Live Mail installed at the moment, but I would be
surprised if this dialog/warning can be disabled.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients


What screen reader are you using as this would be a screen reader option.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bob J
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition
machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my
WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook
Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never did
and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire lot
with just one keystroke. However, when I press the delete key on one of
these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all messages in
that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to proceed. That is
very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option to
elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to fix
this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and
is very complete. Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox
one can find the names of senders. In Outlook 2013 not all of my
contacts are listed in the contact list. However, if I do send an
e-mail to someone who is not in the contact list and start spelling
the name in the to field it will appear.

Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open
and read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the
Num Lock Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in
the box. It did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which
setting it takes to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed
that when addressing another problem I had. I can't even remember what
problem it was that they solved, but they did solve it along with
getting the reading to read for me. I had been told by a helpful
person showing me stuff in Outlook, that I couldn't read them, which,
of course, was right until Microsoft did whatever it was that they did to
get it to read.

One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way
to do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

I really like Outlook Express. One of my computers has windows XP
with OE on it. It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed
up in the inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages. On
this computer I have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to
understand.



Veronica





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
mainly. The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on
a computer where I was working, and they had it. I didn’t like all
the extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages. If you ask me
what, I can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about
something like ten years ago. Pam.



From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with
me for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb
drove me bonkers.



I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more
easier to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new
at the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I
have used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I
was in school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my
Desktop computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will
tell you one thing though, I would not mind assisting you with
Microsoft outlook if you

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

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Telephone

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On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > wrote:



this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:

Sent from my iPhone 5S


On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:

No he is most definitely not that Joseph.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?



Uh oh, off list email warning coming…



*flips table*



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new
engineers working on things best that you guys have to understand and
they're finally getting things right that's my thing on it.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is
not unreasonable to expect it to be accessible. And I don't mean a
year after a major release of the operating system. From what I hear
the Windows Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely
accessible.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if
you get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to
make it work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For
instance, Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not
accessible Wayne now it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long that
took.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>

Twitter

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
<https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>



FaceTime/iMessage

jhud7789@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7789@yahoo.com>



On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
operating system like the mail client yes. That is not quote unquote
playing the blind card. It is called expecting the same level of
accessibility which is available to everyone else. You would not have
nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
inaccessibility.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be
able to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as
long as you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody
or those people that Believe that everything free should always be
accessible are just the ones that want to play the blind card.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>

Twitter

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<https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>



FaceTime/iMessage

jhud7789@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7789@yahoo.com>



On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net
<mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net> > wrote:



How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a link from an
email now, because my browser is Internet Explorer, not Edge. When I
first got my computer, every link in an email would open, no problem.
Also, I could hit Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I
am getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I never got
it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be, but to think that it
was and now is not, well, anyway, you are just so right.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. There
may be other free programs that would meet peoples' needs well, too.
I would never pay for an e-mail program with such free choices
available.

Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one penny
from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a year, it still
hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app properly accessible. If
anything, Microsoft should be giving Outlook away to blind users
because of its inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
available after a year.

It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people use Outlook.
In other words, it recommends that blind people use a program they
have to pay Microsoft for. So the blog is recommending that Microsoft
profit from its inexcuseable accessibility failure.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What You were
talking about wanting easy software to navigate around to pretty much
do Basic emailing. The one that is that is as easy as the outlook
express email know I have arty seen that you downloaded Windows live
Mail 2009, would be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money
it works very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I recommend
going to your local computer store and investing in that here you I
don't know if this is a computer, that you're using for school or if
you got it for personal use but a definite good recommendation. For
you would be that particular email client.

Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>
<mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com> > I device
support Telephone
2543007667
Skype
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On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
<brajmund2000@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com>
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > >
wrote:

Hello,
So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog, because of a
recent issue I've been having, it helped my touch typing. So now, I
want to set up email on this thing.
I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I consider
unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know outlook is the
same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably menu based, to make it
easy. The more basic, the better. Any free solutions out there? Which
version of windows mail has menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook
express, what could be the possible complications? If I don't know of
anything, that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
opened. Thanks!

Sent from a Braille Sense




















And got it installed. I will teach you how to ribbons, and the little
menus that go with it.

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Re: email clients

Bob J
 

I am using NVDA2015.4, the same one I am using on WinXP Pro.

Now, what?



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:26 PM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

What screen reader are you using as this would be a screen reader option.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Bob J
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition
machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my
WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook
Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never
did and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire
lot with just one keystroke. However, when I press the delete key on one
of these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all
messages in that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to
proceed. That is very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option
to elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to
fix this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and
is very complete. Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox
one can find the names of senders. In Outlook 2013 not all of my
contacts are listed in the contact list. However, if I do send an
e-mail to someone who is not in the contact list and start spelling
the name in the to field it will appear.

Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open
and read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the
Num Lock Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in
the box. It did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which
setting it takes to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed
that when addressing another problem I had. I can't even remember what
problem it was that they solved, but they did solve it along with
getting the reading to read for me. I had been told by a helpful
person showing me stuff in Outlook, that I couldn't read them, which,
of course, was right until Microsoft did whatever it was that they did to
get it to read.

One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way
to do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

I really like Outlook Express. One of my computers has windows XP
with OE on it. It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed
up in the inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages. On
this computer I have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to
understand.



Veronica





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
mainly. The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on
a computer where I was working, and they had it. I didn’t like all
the extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages. If you ask me
what, I can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about
something like ten years ago. Pam.



From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with
me for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb
drove me bonkers.



I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more
easier to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new
at the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I
have used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I
was in school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my
Desktop computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will
tell you one thing though, I would not mind assisting you with
Microsoft outlook if you

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On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > wrote:



this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:

Sent from my iPhone 5S


On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:

No he is most definitely not that Joseph.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?



Uh oh, off list email warning coming…



*flips table*



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new
engineers working on things best that you guys have to understand and
they're finally getting things right that's my thing on it.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>

Twitter

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
<https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>



FaceTime/iMessage

jhud7789@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7789@yahoo.com>



On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is
not unreasonable to expect it to be accessible. And I don't mean a
year after a major release of the operating system. From what I hear
the Windows Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely
accessible.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if
you get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to
make it work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For
instance, Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not
accessible Wayne now it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long
that took.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>

Twitter

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
<https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>



FaceTime/iMessage

jhud7789@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7789@yahoo.com>



On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
operating system like the mail client yes. That is not quote unquote
playing the blind card. It is called expecting the same level of
accessibility which is available to everyone else. You would not have
nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
inaccessibility.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be
able to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as
long as you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody
or those people that Believe that everything free should always be
accessible are just the ones that want to play the blind card.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>

Twitter

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
<https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>



FaceTime/iMessage

jhud7789@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7789@yahoo.com>



On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net
<mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net> > wrote:



How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a link from an
email now, because my browser is Internet Explorer, not Edge. When I
first got my computer, every link in an email would open, no problem.
Also, I could hit Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I
am getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I never got
it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be, but to think that it
was and now is not, well, anyway, you are just so right.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. There
may be other free programs that would meet peoples' needs well, too.
I would never pay for an e-mail program with such free choices
available.

Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one penny
from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a year, it still
hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app properly accessible. If
anything, Microsoft should be giving Outlook away to blind users
because of its inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
available after a year.

It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people use Outlook.
In other words, it recommends that blind people use a program they
have to pay Microsoft for. So the blog is recommending that Microsoft
profit from its inexcuseable accessibility failure.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What You were
talking about wanting easy software to navigate around to pretty much
do Basic emailing. The one that is that is as easy as the outlook
express email know I have arty seen that you downloaded Windows live
Mail 2009, would be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money
it works very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I recommend
going to your local computer store and investing in that here you I
don't know if this is a computer, that you're using for school or if
you got it for personal use but a definite good recommendation. For
you would be that particular email client.

Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>
<mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com> > I device
support Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
<https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7789@yahoo.com>
<mailto:jhud7789@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7789@yahoo.com> >


On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
<brajmund2000@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com>
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > >
wrote:

Hello,
So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog, because of a
recent issue I've been having, it helped my touch typing. So now, I
want to set up email on this thing.
I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I consider
unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know outlook is the
same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably menu based, to make it
easy. The more basic, the better. Any free solutions out there? Which
version of windows mail has menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook
express, what could be the possible complications? If I don't know of
anything, that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
opened. Thanks!

Sent from a Braille Sense




















And got it installed. I will teach you how to ribbons, and the little
menus that go with it.

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4627/12605 - Release Date:
07/12/16


















Re: email clients

Matt
 

What screen reader are you using as this would be a screen reader option.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob J
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never did and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire lot with just one keystroke. However, when I press the delete key on one of these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all messages in that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to proceed. That is very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option to elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to fix this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and
is very complete. Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox
one can find the names of senders. In Outlook 2013 not all of my
contacts are listed in the contact list. However, if I do send an
e-mail to someone who is not in the contact list and start spelling
the name in the to field it will appear.

Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open
and read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the
Num Lock Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in
the box. It did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which
setting it takes to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed
that when addressing another problem I had. I can't even remember what
problem it was that they solved, but they did solve it along with
getting the reading to read for me. I had been told by a helpful
person showing me stuff in Outlook, that I couldn't read them, which,
of course, was right until Microsoft did whatever it was that they did to get it to read.

One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way
to do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

I really like Outlook Express. One of my computers has windows XP
with OE on it. It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed
up in the inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages. On
this computer I have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to understand.



Veronica





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
mainly. The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on
a computer where I was working, and they had it. I didn’t like all
the extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages. If you ask me
what, I can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about
something like ten years ago. Pam.



From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with
me for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb
drove me bonkers.



I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more
easier to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new
at the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I
have used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I
was in school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my
Desktop computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will
tell you one thing though, I would not mind assisting you with
Microsoft outlook if you

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On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > wrote:



this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:

Sent from my iPhone 5S


On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:

No he is most definitely not that Joseph.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?



Uh oh, off list email warning coming…



*flips table*



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new
engineers working on things best that you guys have to understand and
they're finally getting things right that's my thing on it.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is
not unreasonable to expect it to be accessible. And I don't mean a
year after a major release of the operating system. From what I hear
the Windows Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely accessible.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if
you get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to
make it work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For
instance, Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not
accessible Wayne now it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long that took.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
operating system like the mail client yes. That is not quote unquote
playing the blind card. It is called expecting the same level of
accessibility which is available to everyone else. You would not have
nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
inaccessibility.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be
able to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as
long as you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody
or those people that Believe that everything free should always be
accessible are just the ones that want to play the blind card.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

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FaceTime/iMessage

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net
<mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net> > wrote:



How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a link from an
email now, because my browser is Internet Explorer, not Edge. When I
first got my computer, every link in an email would open, no problem.
Also, I could hit Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I
am getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I never got
it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be, but to think that it
was and now is not, well, anyway, you are just so right.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. There
may be other free programs that would meet peoples' needs well, too.
I would never pay for an e-mail program with such free choices
available.

Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one penny
from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a year, it still
hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app properly accessible. If
anything, Microsoft should be giving Outlook away to blind users
because of its inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
available after a year.

It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people use Outlook.
In other words, it recommends that blind people use a program they
have to pay Microsoft for. So the blog is recommending that Microsoft
profit from its inexcuseable accessibility failure.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What You were
talking about wanting easy software to navigate around to pretty much
do Basic emailing. The one that is that is as easy as the outlook
express email know I have arty seen that you downloaded Windows live
Mail 2009, would be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money
it works very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I recommend
going to your local computer store and investing in that here you I
don't know if this is a computer, that you're using for school or if
you got it for personal use but a definite good recommendation. For
you would be that particular email client.

Joseph Hudson
Email
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On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
<brajmund2000@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com>
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > >
wrote:

Hello,
So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog, because of a
recent issue I've been having, it helped my touch typing. So now, I
want to set up email on this thing.
I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I consider
unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know outlook is the
same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably menu based, to make it
easy. The more basic, the better. Any free solutions out there? Which
version of windows mail has menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook
express, what could be the possible complications? If I don't know of
anything, that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
opened. Thanks!

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Re: email clients

Bob J
 

Hello folks,

Yesterday, I installed WindowsLiveMail2009 on my Win7 64-bit, Home edition
machine and it is running as I type.

It sounds very similar to Outlook Express which I have been using on my
WinXP Pro machine and, believe it or not, sometimes I hear it say "Outlook
Express message".

All of that aside, WLM2009 is doing something that Outlook Express never did
and I haven't discovered how to put a stop to it!

I have conversations messages collapsed so that I can delete the entire lot
with just one keystroke. However, when I press the delete key on one of
these collapsed messages, WLM2009 interrupts to tell me that all messages in
that conversation will be deleted and asks if I wish to proceed. That is
very annoying, not to mention, totally unnecessary!

I have looked through all of the menues and have not discovered an option to
elimate this nuisance so I am asking if anyone out there knows how to fix
this aberration.

T I A,

Bob


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:49 AM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

True, Outlook Express has Autocomplete.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook Express has an address book which is found under programs and is
very complete. Also if one does shift plus tab when in the inbox one can
find the names of senders. In Outlook 2013 not all of my contacts are
listed in the contact list. However, if I do send an e-mail to someone
who is not in the contact list and start spelling the name in the to field
it will appear.

Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Outlook 2013 is more difficult, for one thing, the orientation is
different. However, when I come into it, I am in my Inbox and can open and
read any message. They're all there. I can press Insert 3 on the Num Lock
Pad, and it reads the amount of unread messages that are in the box. It
did not do that when I first got it. I do not know which setting it takes
to accomplish that, as Microsoft Disability fixed that when addressing
another problem I had. I can't even remember what problem it was that they
solved, but they did solve it along with getting the reading to read for
me. I had been told by a helpful person showing me stuff in Outlook, that
I couldn't read them, which, of course, was right until Microsoft did
whatever it was that they did to get it to read.

One thing that I like about Outlook is that when in an email, you can
press Alt-period and have access to the Contact List. I knew of no way to
do that in Outlook express, while trying to address an email.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

I really like Outlook Express. One of my computers has windows XP with OE
on it. It is set so that whenever you open up OE one landed up in the
inbox and could then read all of your e-mail messages. On this computer I
have Outlook 2013 and I think it is more difficult to understand.



Veronica





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve only used outlook express, windows mail and windows live mail,
mainly. The experience I had with outlook is when I had to use it on a
computer where I was working, and they had it. I didn’t like all the
extra stuff I had to wade past to get to messages. If you ask me what, I
can’t remember in detail, because we’re talking about something like ten
years ago. Pam.



From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:11 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



I’ve used all email clients known to man kind but outlook stuck with me
for some strange reason. Probabbly because I hate change lol.
Thunderbird, people say it’s easy to use but for the life of me, tb drove
me bonkers.



I had it once on my machine, then bam! It was gone.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hey, I wouldn't Sam a big fan, but I would say that I found it more easier
to work Dane thunderbird. At one time in my life, I did install
Thunderbird to see how well it worked on an older laptop which was new at
the time. And I did not really like or enjoy it. So since then, I have
used Gmail's mental web interface,/ Outlook Express whenever I was in
school. And then I used playing all Microsoft outlook on my Desktop
computer. And then apples mail program on the Mac. So I will tell you one
thing though, I would not mind assisting you with Microsoft outlook if you

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

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On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com
<mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com> > wrote:



this Joseph seems to be a big outlook fan guy, too, though:

Sent from my iPhone 5S


On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:44 pm, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:

No he is most definitely not that Joseph.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



You’re not the Joeseph the free tech guy are you?



Uh oh, off list email warning coming…



*flips table*



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yeah but they're finally off to a good start maybe they have new engineers
working on things best that you guys have to understand and they're
finally getting things right that's my thing on it.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

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<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>

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On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



The point is that since it is built-in to the operating system, it is not
unreasonable to expect it to be accessible. And I don't mean a year after
a major release of the operating system. From what I hear the Windows
Mail app is now usable, but it is still not completely accessible.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:46 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Yes Carlos, I agree bye at the same time, I say one the Thing is is if you
get the free program you're going to have more struggle trying to make it
work, when brake comes to needing it to be accessible. For instance,
Windows mailing itself for the longest time was not accessible Wayne now
it apparently is on Windows 10. Look at how long that took.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>

Twitter

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FaceTime/iMessage

jhud7789@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7789@yahoo.com>



On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
<mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> > wrote:



Not everything that is free, but certainly a major component of the
operating system like the mail client yes. That is not quote unquote
playing the blind card. It is called expecting the same level of
accessibility which is available to everyone else. You would not have
nearly as much accessibility as you do today if no one ever protested
inaccessibility.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:33 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients



Hi Carolyn, he might be right but I will say Nate you should still be able
to copy links and paste them into Internet browser no problem as long as
you know how to select, and copy, and paste. I think somebody or those
people that Believe that everything free should always be accessible are
just the ones that want to play the blind card.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com>

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>

Twitter

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89>



FaceTime/iMessage

jhud7789@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7789@yahoo.com>



On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net
<mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net> > wrote:



How right you are. It is getting harder for me to open a
link from an email now, because my browser is Internet
Explorer, not Edge. When I first got my computer, every link
in an email would open, no problem. Also, I could hit
Windows and search for anything - not anymore, so I am
getting less than I paid for. It would be one thing if I
never got it, it just wasn't accessible, hope it will be,
but to think that it was and now is not, well, anyway, you
are just so right.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Most users would do fine with Windows Live Mail or
Thunderbird. There may be other free programs that would
meet peoples' needs well, too. I would never pay for an
e-mail program with such free choices available.

Also, as a matter of principle, Microsoft shouldn't make one
penny from blind people purchasing Outllook because after a
year, it still hasn't made the Windows 10 e-mail app
properly accessible. If anything, Microsoft should be
giving Outlook away to blind users because of its
inexcuseable failure to make its Windows 10 e-mail app
available after a year.

It recommends in its accessibility blog that blind people
use Outlook. In other words, it recommends that blind
people use a program they have to pay Microsoft for. So the
blog is recommending that Microsoft profit from its
inexcuseable accessibility failure.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email clients

Hello my good sir, welcome to the world of computers. What
You were talking about wanting easy software to navigate
around to pretty much do Basic emailing. The one that is
that is as easy as the outlook express email know I have
arty seen that you downloaded Windows live Mail 2009, would
be Microsoft outlook. And if you know it cost money it works
very well. I repeat, it works very very well. And yes it is
also supported via in BDA. So if you run into any trouble, I
recommend going to your local computer store and investing
in that here you I don't know if this is a computer, that
you're using for school or if you got it for personal use
but a definite good recommendation. For you would be that
particular email client.

Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7789@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com> <mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com
<mailto:jhud7789@gmail.com> > I device
support Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
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On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rajmund
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wrote:

Hello,
So, as I've been messing a lot with the run dialog,
because of a recent issue I've been having, it helped my
touch typing. So now, I want to set up email on this thing.
I know of thunderbird, but I also know its full of what I
consider unnecessary crap, such as RSS, and calendar. I know
outlook is the same, it certainly has a calendar. Preferably
menu based, to make it easy. The more basic, the better. Any
free solutions out there? Which version of windows mail has
menus? If I wanted to attempt outlook express, what could be
the possible complications? If I don't know of anything,
that is free, and as basic as ever, and NVDA accessible, I'm
opened. Thanks!

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Re: .RAR Files: Is there a Problem?

Carlos
 

Unless you plan on creating RAR files, there is really no point in paying for WinRAR. 7-Zip cannot create RAR files, but it can extract them which is enough for most average users.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Max G. Swanson" <swando99@iphouse.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] .RAR Files: Is there a Problem?


There's obviously an issue I know nothing about, but why not just use
WinWrar, (or maybe there's no W at the end), for these files? Did the
providers in Germany shut down the site?

I'd say it was a worthwhile $15 to spend, and their use of an email
attachment to authorize is pretty slick. Nice to know 7-ZIP works too.
--
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Regards, Max


Re: Considering a cheap Dell laptop

Carolyn Arnold
 

The more yall talk about computer values, the more satisfied
I am with what I got, a fairly good value on a computer that
should last for, maybe six-eight years.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Considering a cheap Dell laptop

I am notorious for beating computers to death! After all,
the moment I take one out of a store, a portion of its value
is gone! Desktop ones I build personally; laptops I grab
off-the-shelf!



I currently have two laptops, a Sony Vaio and an Asus. The
latter runs Windows8.1, the former Windows7. I am putting
both through the paces but I like my Sony Vaio computer
better. Both were refurbished systems as I refused to pay
much more for a brand new computer that loses value quickly.
They lose value because they can never be rsold for any kind
of profit.



I agree with Gene; there's a difference between a need and a
want! Overpaying on a mainstream piece of equipment is just
satisfying a WANT, not a need! I need a computer to get
work done, I don't want it sitting on my desk gathering dust
because it has "something" I don't need but want later and
may never use. With my laptops, I am not using any cooling
pads; yet they stay on 24 hours a day, seven days a week
forever. They are only turned off when I am leaving town
for weeks unend.



Sincerely,

Olusegun

Denver, Colorado



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.RAR Files: Is there a Problem?

Max G. Swanson <swando99@...>
 

There's obviously an issue I know nothing about, but why not just use
WinWrar, (or maybe there's no W at the end), for these files? Did the
providers in Germany shut down the site?

I'd say it was a worthwhile $15 to spend, and their use of an email
attachment to authorize is pretty slick. Nice to know 7-ZIP works too.
--
"We are stuck in ourselves. Who else to be stuck in?" A.Ginsberg.
Regards, Max


Re: Considering a cheap Dell laptop

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Lenron, please visit:

www.microcenter.com

I don't buy from them online; I go in physically to their store here in my
bush and have a chat with the sales folks. I also check out Bestbuy first.
Sometimes, the sales folks get frustrated with me because I ask ten zillion
questions and they don't have most of the answers! I do my research though:
I read up on specific computer systems paying attention to their specs.
Though not a guru, I have been able to reasonably determine what makes sense
when buying a computer and what doesn't. When it comes to the computer, I
take my time and that's because I am notorious for beating it to death.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Considering a cheap Dell laptop

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

I am notorious for beating computers to death!  After all, the moment I take one out of a store, a portion of its value is gone!  Desktop ones I build personally; laptops I grab off-the-shelf! 

 

I currently have two laptops, a Sony Vaio and an Asus.  The latter runs Windows8.1, the former Windows7.  I am putting both through the paces but I like my Sony Vaio computer better.  Both were refurbished systems as I refused to pay much more for a brand new computer that loses value quickly.  They lose value because they can never be rsold for any kind of profit. 

 

I agree with Gene; there's a difference between a need and a want!  Overpaying on a mainstream piece of equipment is just satisfying a WANT, not a need!  I need a computer to get work done, I don't want it sitting on my desk gathering dust because it has "something" I don't need but want later and may never use.  With my laptops, I am not using any cooling pads; yet they stay on 24 hours a day, seven days a week forever.  They are only turned off when I am leaving town for weeks unend. 

 

Sincerely,

Olusegun

Denver, Colorado


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Re: Windows Media Player crossfader

Walter Ramage
 

Hi.  I've just now got it working but more by chance than design.  At first look, the controls are not very responsive or accessible but it will take some trial and error, probably more error.  At the moment I'm listening to a few tracks to see how the cross fade is and so far, so good.  Thanks for your help though.  Walter.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 16 July 2016 15:30
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Media Player crossfader

 

I'm not sure if you will find this page helpful.

The essence is to use the command control 3 on the main keyboard to place you in the now playing part of the program.

Open the context menu.

Down arrow to enhancements and press enter.

Press enter on the cross fading item in the menu.

A window will open where you adjust the cross fader.

Tab around and let every item read fully.  You should hear brief instructions for some or all of the items.

Adjust things as you like then tab to the close option.

I believe you can press either enter or the space bar on this item.

You are then in the main program again. 

I don't know how you usually work with the program.  Control 1 places you in what I believe is the library part of the program.  Control 3 places you in now playing.

If you want to turn off cross fading or adjust it further, follow the above steps again.  that is, use control f3.  Open the context menu etc.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 8:58 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Media Player crossfader

 

Hi.  Thank you, it is version 12.  Walter.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 16 July 2016 14:53
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Media Player crossfader

 

You can probably find out the version the same way you can in most programs.

Alt h then a for about.  See if a dialog comes up and what information is in it.  I could fool around and try to figure it out but there may be no point without knowing if I have the same version of Media Player.. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 8:36 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows Media Player crossfader

 

Hi.  Does anybody know how to get to and configure the WMP crossfader?  I looked on line and there were instructions for WMP 11 and WMP 12 (I don't know what version I have nor how to find out).  Unfortunately I couldn't find the "Enhanced" portion in any of the menus in Options.  Unfortunately the instructions gave instructions using the mouse and described the screen which is of little use to me.  Any help welcome and appreciated.  Walter.

 

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