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Re: Adding contacts to my google account?

Mark Brett
 

Hi, What e-mail client do you use on your computer and what phone do you
have? Android, IOS or Windows Mobile?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Flying Bird via Groups.io
Sent: 28 July 2016 16:10
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Adding contacts to my google account?

Hello all:
I'd like to know if does anyone know of a way or a program which will allow
me to add contacts from the computer to my google account?
Its page seems confusing and I don't always have my phone to add contacts
from it.
Thanks


Sent from my iPhone


Adding contacts to my google account?

Flying Bird
 

Hello all:
I'd like to know if does anyone know of a way or a program which will allow me to add contacts from the computer to my google account?
Its page seems confusing and I don't always have my phone to add contacts from it.
Thanks


Sent from my iPhone


Re: Consumer products label and directions website

Blaster
 

No problem, glad to help.
Actually, I never heard of this site before yesterday, I just found it
on a search.
it really is a well thought out website and easy to use.

On 7/28/16, Smiling? <blind7@...> wrote:
directionsForMe.org is back up, very cool and thanks for putting it up
letting us know.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Blaster Nil8
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Consumer products label and directions website

I found a website that provides consumer products label information
including, directions for use and ingredients info. They also have a
barcode scanner for sale that works with the website. check it out,

http://www.directionsforme.org

HTH,
Blaster







New message sound

Mark Brett
 

Hi, When I get a message from a person or group that I have not set a rule for it to go into a folder so it stays in the inbox I get a new message sound.

 

If I get a new message from a person or group that has a rule to put it into a folder I don’t get a new message sound.

 

How can I set outlook 2016 to play a sound regardless of what folder receives the new message?

 

Many thanks

 

 

 

 

Mark Brett

 

E-mail: markbrett@...

Phone: +448432086070

Twitter: @markbrett1

 


creating a signature file.

Flor Lynch
 

Hi,
 
What have people found best where a person’s signature is required, for when filling in forms on a PC, i.e., pdf’s? A .png file (image) of a printed signature, i.e., a template file?
 


Re: Mp3s stop playing in Windows 10.

Marie
 

Win 10 will default to the new Groove Music which is not very accessible. So either right click on the file you want to play and if the option to play with Windows Media Player is available choose it or choose the Open with option to see which programs are available. For future use, Go into the setting by pressing the Windows key plus the letter I.
Under System settings, find Default programs and press enter then tab to the default for playing music and select Windows Media Player or whatever player you have installed.
HTH
Marie
 
 

From: SK22
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:28 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Mp3s stop playing in Windows 10.
 

I am using Windows 10 with JFW 17. I tried to listen to a podcast that I had downloaded but it kept stopping.  If I pressed the tab key it would continue.  This happened with 2 MP3 files.  I’ve just started using Windows 10 and am using whatever Windows picked to play the MP3 files.  How can I hear the whole file?

 

Shirley


Re: Request Windows 10 search instructions

Carlos
 

The easiest way to search all locations in Windows 10 is via the search field in Explorer.  I don't know if this is still the case in Windows 10, but it is worth keeping in mind that in Windows 7 searching via the Start menu does not search all locations.  It only searches indexed locations and not all drives are configured as indexed locations by default.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Request Windows 10 search instructions

I haven't experimented much with the Windows 7 search feature to find files.  But the small amount I've done indicates to me that the actual search disk feature, as opposed to the general start menu search may be better at finding files.  I therefore, on the rare occasions when I search for files use the disk search feature.  But I don't know if it is the same in Windows 10 in terms of the interface, though I suspect functionality is the same or similar.  But my guess might be wrong about that. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Request Windows 10 search instructions

Hi all,

the search feature in Windows7 through Windows10 is what used to be
called in the Linux World, an incremental search.  Here's how it works.

If you are searching for a file called my_song_recording.mp3, you start
typing this into the search box.  As you type, the computer starts
searching for files starting with my and continues as you add more of
the file name.  the key here is not to press enter after you finish
tyuping.  I repeat, do not hit enter after typing.  If you do, the
incremental search will stop!

The * (star) is still and has always been your wild card, so you could
type  my_song*.mp3 and it would still find your file, providing you
don't stop the search by hitting 'enter'.

Wait a bit, and then arrow down to see the list of what the 'puter found.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."



Re: Request Windows 10 search instructions

Gene
 

I haven't experimented much with the Windows 7 search feature to find files.  But the small amount I've done indicates to me that the actual search disk feature, as opposed to the general start menu search may be better at finding files.  I therefore, on the rare occasions when I search for files use the disk search feature.  But I don't know if it is the same in Windows 10 in terms of the interface, though I suspect functionality is the same or similar.  But my guess might be wrong about that. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Request Windows 10 search instructions

Hi all,

the search feature in Windows7 through Windows10 is what used to be
called in the Linux World, an incremental search.  Here's how it works.

If you are searching for a file called my_song_recording.mp3, you start
typing this into the search box.  As you type, the computer starts
searching for files starting with my and continues as you add more of
the file name.  the key here is not to press enter after you finish
tyuping.  I repeat, do not hit enter after typing.  If you do, the
incremental search will stop!

The * (star) is still and has always been your wild card, so you could
type  my_song*.mp3 and it would still find your file, providing you
don't stop the search by hitting 'enter'.

Wait a bit, and then arrow down to see the list of what the 'puter found.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."



Re: Request Windows 10 search instructions

Ann Parsons <akp@...>
 

Hi all,

the search feature in Windows7 through Windows10 is what used to be called in the Linux World, an incremental search. Here's how it works.

If you are searching for a file called my_song_recording.mp3, you start typing this into the search box. As you type, the computer starts searching for files starting with my and continues as you add more of the file name. the key here is not to press enter after you finish tyuping. I repeat, do not hit enter after typing. If you do, the incremental search will stop!

The * (star) is still and has always been your wild card, so you could type my_song*.mp3 and it would still find your file, providing you don't stop the search by hitting 'enter'.

Wait a bit, and then arrow down to see the list of what the 'puter found.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

James Bentley
 

I should go ahead and image this drive just to be safe.
 
Thanks, Carlos,
 
James
 
 
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hi James,
If I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure the standard license is a lifetime one so you should always be able to use the latest version.  And when it comes to imaging the latest version of an operating system, it is always best to use the latest version of your imaging software.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
VFO/FS also confirmed that different drivers provide different features and different menus.
 
Carlos, I need to install Image for Windows.  Should I install my original version that hasn’t been updated in about one year and then update.  Or, should I just down load a current version?  I just don’t know if my product key is going to register a current version on a fresh install of Windows.
 
James
 
 
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hmm, unfortunately this seems to confirm my previous observation that the
"Enhancements"
tab is not always visible.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
OK Carlos,
 
It was worth a try.  I found a major amount of things that I had forgot were in there.  But, no enhancement tab, so I couldn’t disable all sound affects.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
The following solution for the issue with distorted audio from Realtek sound cards did not work for me previously, but it does work for me now so it may be worth a try.
 
1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog.
 
2. Type
mmsys.cpl
followed by Enter.
 
3. When the
"Sound"
dialog opens, select the
"Speakers / Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)"
device from the list on the
"Playback"
tab.
 
4. Tab to the
"Properties"
button and select it.
 
5. Navigate to the
"Enhancements"
tab if you can find it.
 
6. Enable the
"Disable all sound effects"
checkbox.
 
7. Select the
"OK"
button twice to close the
"Properties"
and
"Sound"
dialogs respectively.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:40 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hello everyone,
 
My problem with RealTech sound cards started over 14 months ago when I purchased a new Dell 2-in-1 laptop.  Its sound was pretty decent until Microsoft forced
Win10 updates on to the computer.  The sound card drivers that MS forces on to the computer makes it sound horrible.  Loads of distortion.  Crackly sound, and worse of all, if the computer hasn’t been used for just a few seconds, the first character or word that you type is not sounded through the speakers.  I gave FS, MS, and Dell lots of opportunities to resolve the problem with zero results so I sent the laptop back to Dell.  I figured that in a year or so MS or someone would have come up with a solution.  Man, was I ever wrong.
 
The new Dell 2-in-1 laptop that I just got yesterday sounded so fine.  I really couldn’t believe how awesome it sounded.
 
That is Until, Yet again, MS forced updates with what I am assuming also contained sound card drivers for the RealTech sound card on to the unit.  A quick phone call to VFO/FS revealed that they do not know of a solution.
 
Anyway, since I plan on making this laptop my main computer located on my desk in my living room.  I am wondering if an external USB sound card might fix most of the problem.  The laptop would still sound terrible when used as a portable but, I think it should sound fine running it through my regular computer speakers and my receiver as long as I plug everything in to the external sound card.
 
If I am understanding this right, the USB external sound card uses no drivers.  I am thinking that you just plug it in and it works.
 
Important, Can someone tell me if MS updates will screw up an external USB sound card?  If not, What’s a good external sound card?  Hopefully with two analog inputs and a microphone input.
 
I really hope to be able to keep this laptop because I like so many other things about it.Its extremely fast.
 
As always, many thanks for your input,
 
James
 
**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

Carlos
 


Hi James,
If I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure the standard license is a lifetime one so you should always be able to use the latest version.  And when it comes to imaging the latest version of an operating system, it is always best to use the latest version of your imaging software.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

VFO/FS also confirmed that different drivers provide different features and different menus.
 
Carlos, I need to install Image for Windows.  Should I install my original version that hasn’t been updated in about one year and then update.  Or, should I just down load a current version?  I just don’t know if my product key is going to register a current version on a fresh install of Windows.
 
James
 
 
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hmm, unfortunately this seems to confirm my previous observation that the
"Enhancements"
tab is not always visible.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
OK Carlos,
 
It was worth a try.  I found a major amount of things that I had forgot were in there.  But, no enhancement tab, so I couldn’t disable all sound affects.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
The following solution for the issue with distorted audio from Realtek sound cards did not work for me previously, but it does work for me now so it may be worth a try.
 
1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog.
 
2. Type
mmsys.cpl
followed by Enter.
 
3. When the
"Sound"
dialog opens, select the
"Speakers / Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)"
device from the list on the
"Playback"
tab.
 
4. Tab to the
"Properties"
button and select it.
 
5. Navigate to the
"Enhancements"
tab if you can find it.
 
6. Enable the
"Disable all sound effects"
checkbox.
 
7. Select the
"OK"
button twice to close the
"Properties"
and
"Sound"
dialogs respectively.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:40 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hello everyone,
 
My problem with RealTech sound cards started over 14 months ago when I purchased a new Dell 2-in-1 laptop.  Its sound was pretty decent until Microsoft forced
Win10 updates on to the computer.  The sound card drivers that MS forces on to the computer makes it sound horrible.  Loads of distortion.  Crackly sound, and worse of all, if the computer hasn’t been used for just a few seconds, the first character or word that you type is not sounded through the speakers.  I gave FS, MS, and Dell lots of opportunities to resolve the problem with zero results so I sent the laptop back to Dell.  I figured that in a year or so MS or someone would have come up with a solution.  Man, was I ever wrong.
 
The new Dell 2-in-1 laptop that I just got yesterday sounded so fine.  I really couldn’t believe how awesome it sounded.
 
That is Until, Yet again, MS forced updates with what I am assuming also contained sound card drivers for the RealTech sound card on to the unit.  A quick phone call to VFO/FS revealed that they do not know of a solution.
 
Anyway, since I plan on making this laptop my main computer located on my desk in my living room.  I am wondering if an external USB sound card might fix most of the problem.  The laptop would still sound terrible when used as a portable but, I think it should sound fine running it through my regular computer speakers and my receiver as long as I plug everything in to the external sound card.
 
If I am understanding this right, the USB external sound card uses no drivers.  I am thinking that you just plug it in and it works.
 
Important, Can someone tell me if MS updates will screw up an external USB sound card?  If not, What’s a good external sound card?  Hopefully with two analog inputs and a microphone input.
 
I really hope to be able to keep this laptop because I like so many other things about it.Its extremely fast.
 
As always, many thanks for your input,
 
James
 
**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

James Bentley
 

VFO/FS also confirmed that different drivers provide different features and different menus.
 
Carlos, I need to install Image for Windows.  Should I install my original version that hasn’t been updated in about one year and then update.  Or, should I just down load a current version?  I just don’t know if my product key is going to register a current version on a fresh install of Windows.
 
James
 
 
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hmm, unfortunately this seems to confirm my previous observation that the
"Enhancements"
tab is not always visible.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
OK Carlos,
 
It was worth a try.  I found a major amount of things that I had forgot were in there.  But, no enhancement tab, so I couldn’t disable all sound affects.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
The following solution for the issue with distorted audio from Realtek sound cards did not work for me previously, but it does work for me now so it may be worth a try.
 
1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog.
 
2. Type
mmsys.cpl
followed by Enter.
 
3. When the
"Sound"
dialog opens, select the
"Speakers / Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)"
device from the list on the
"Playback"
tab.
 
4. Tab to the
"Properties"
button and select it.
 
5. Navigate to the
"Enhancements"
tab if you can find it.
 
6. Enable the
"Disable all sound effects"
checkbox.
 
7. Select the
"OK"
button twice to close the
"Properties"
and
"Sound"
dialogs respectively.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:40 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hello everyone,
 
My problem with RealTech sound cards started over 14 months ago when I purchased a new Dell 2-in-1 laptop.  Its sound was pretty decent until Microsoft forced
Win10 updates on to the computer.  The sound card drivers that MS forces on to the computer makes it sound horrible.  Loads of distortion.  Crackly sound, and worse of all, if the computer hasn’t been used for just a few seconds, the first character or word that you type is not sounded through the speakers.  I gave FS, MS, and Dell lots of opportunities to resolve the problem with zero results so I sent the laptop back to Dell.  I figured that in a year or so MS or someone would have come up with a solution.  Man, was I ever wrong.
 
The new Dell 2-in-1 laptop that I just got yesterday sounded so fine.  I really couldn’t believe how awesome it sounded.
 
That is Until, Yet again, MS forced updates with what I am assuming also contained sound card drivers for the RealTech sound card on to the unit.  A quick phone call to VFO/FS revealed that they do not know of a solution.
 
Anyway, since I plan on making this laptop my main computer located on my desk in my living room.  I am wondering if an external USB sound card might fix most of the problem.  The laptop would still sound terrible when used as a portable but, I think it should sound fine running it through my regular computer speakers and my receiver as long as I plug everything in to the external sound card.
 
If I am understanding this right, the USB external sound card uses no drivers.  I am thinking that you just plug it in and it works.
 
Important, Can someone tell me if MS updates will screw up an external USB sound card?  If not, What’s a good external sound card?  Hopefully with two analog inputs and a microphone input.
 
I really hope to be able to keep this laptop because I like so many other things about it.Its extremely fast.
 
As always, many thanks for your input,
 
James
 
**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

James Bentley
 

The problem started immediately after a MS update.  It never goes away so I am always looking with drivers that produce the problem.
 
According to VFO tech support, you are in fact right about different drivers producing different features and menus in the sound card settings.
 
I noticed while digging around that I do not have the option to roll back the drivers.
 
While I am pretty sure that an external sound adaptor will take care of a big part of the problem,  I think my next option is to see if Dell can do a remote and get rid of every thing associated with the sound card that won’t stop speech from working.  If speech does stop working while someone is doing a remote, they should be able to reverse the problem.  And, I will want to install Image for Windows and create an image before I ask a Dell tech support person to remote in to my system.
 
I am tempted to think that MS or who ever is responsible will eventually get this problem fixed.  Blind computer users are really a very small portion of computer users and many systems do not appear to have this problem.  I wish VFO/FS or someone would put out a lits of  devices that are not compatible with their products.  But, I won’t hold my breath.
 
I’ll use an external device if that is what it takes until someone gets on the ball and fixes this problem.
 
James
 
 
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Are you looking for the enhancements tab when you arn'te having a problem with the soundcard or when you are?  It may be that if a forced driver update is occurring, that you may see enhancements when one driver is being used but not the other.  So if you are looking while you are using the older driver that works properly, it might be worth looking again once the problem returns.  I wouldn't expect the driver being used to make a difference but you never know. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
OK Carlos,
 
It was worth a try.  I found a major amount of things that I had forgot were in there.  But, no enhancement tab, so I couldn’t disable all sound affects.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
The following solution for the issue with distorted audio from Realtek sound cards did not work for me previously, but it does work for me now so it may be worth a try.
 
1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog.
 
2. Type
mmsys.cpl
followed by Enter.
 
3. When the
"Sound"
dialog opens, select the
"Speakers / Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)"
device from the list on the
"Playback"
tab.
 
4. Tab to the
"Properties"
button and select it.
 
5. Navigate to the
"Enhancements"
tab if you can find it.
 
6. Enable the
"Disable all sound effects"
checkbox.
 
7. Select the
"OK"
button twice to close the
"Properties"
and
"Sound"
dialogs respectively.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:40 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hello everyone,
 
My problem with RealTech sound cards started over 14 months ago when I purchased a new Dell 2-in-1 laptop.  Its sound was pretty decent until Microsoft forced
Win10 updates on to the computer.  The sound card drivers that MS forces on to the computer makes it sound horrible.  Loads of distortion.  Crackly sound, and worse of all, if the computer hasn’t been used for just a few seconds, the first character or word that you type is not sounded through the speakers.  I gave FS, MS, and Dell lots of opportunities to resolve the problem with zero results so I sent the laptop back to Dell.  I figured that in a year or so MS or someone would have come up with a solution.  Man, was I ever wrong.
 
The new Dell 2-in-1 laptop that I just got yesterday sounded so fine.  I really couldn’t believe how awesome it sounded.
 
That is Until, Yet again, MS forced updates with what I am assuming also contained sound card drivers for the RealTech sound card on to the unit.  A quick phone call to VFO/FS revealed that they do not know of a solution.
 
Anyway, since I plan on making this laptop my main computer located on my desk in my living room.  I am wondering if an external USB sound card might fix most of the problem.  The laptop would still sound terrible when used as a portable but, I think it should sound fine running it through my regular computer speakers and my receiver as long as I plug everything in to the external sound card.
 
If I am understanding this right, the USB external sound card uses no drivers.  I am thinking that you just plug it in and it works.
 
Important, Can someone tell me if MS updates will screw up an external USB sound card?  If not, What’s a good external sound card?  Hopefully with two analog inputs and a microphone input.
 
I really hope to be able to keep this laptop because I like so many other things about it.Its extremely fast.
 
As always, many thanks for your input,
 
James
 
**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, Apparently, I don't know how to do this

Carlos
 

Gene indicated in a private message that Jeremy did not appear to be
condescending from his point of view. I freely admit that my reaction may
have been in part a consequence of previous encounters and impressions. If
that is in fact the case, then you have my apologies Jeremy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this


Thank you all guys. It was fun.

JR


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this

And once again I was not arguing the usefulness of such a feature. I did
not twist your words since I never claimed you said it was a cure all. I
said that you should stop treating it as if it is a cure all solution. You
have not explicitly referred to it in that manner, but you continue to
present it as an alternative to disk images when it is not even comparable.
And while your words are not belligerent, your tone as usual most certainly
is especially when referring to Gene.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this


The reset feature is a great solution for a significant amount of problems
or else Microsoft wouldn't have thought to take the time and effort into
developing it and implementing it in Win8 and Windows 10. I have never used
the word "cure all" when discussing this matter. When you take someone's
words and twist them around to redirect the conversation, you're actually
defeating the purpose of this list, which is to get a diverse perspective on
solving various computer problems. I've not been belligerent at all during
this whole discussion, so I don't know why the subtle putdowns.

Disk images are not the only solution, it might be your solution, but it is
not the only solution for the issues you described.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this

You should really stop treating this Windows 10 "Reset" feature as if it is
some kind of cure all solution. Once again while it is certainly useful, it
relies on being able to boot into Windows. If a corrupt installation
prevents you from booting, you will not be able to use the "Reset" feature
without sighted assistance. For this reason, disk images are extremely
useful. Not to mention being able to restore your system to a working state
without the need to reinstall applications and reconfigure settings. No one
claiming to be an advanced user would or should think otherwise.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this


Well, you've never experienced Windows 10, so you are not aware of what
those few seconds during boot up or after coming out of sleep feel like when
you're someone who wants to get their work completed or repeatedly take
ideas down without having to wait. Believe me, not waiting even a few
seconds makes a positive difference when it happens several times a day. On
Tuesday I was helping a colleague with their Windows7 computer, and I must
have asked him about 3 times if his computer had fully started--I've been
spoiled by SSD drives and Windows 10.

In my opinion, disk images are a headache--the average user, and most on
this list, will not be able to perform that involved process--even with
sighted help. When the time comes, Windows 10's reset feature is easy enough
for a child to perform.

The similar annoyances you speak of were also conveyed by those moving from
Windows 98 ME to XP, and when moving from XP to Windows7, and so on.

Yes, you're right, Windows 10 is not specifically for you, but I'm only
commenting for the benefit of others who are currently using W10. On the
next purchase of a computer, most are not likely to be given a choice when
it comes to a new computer since Windows 10 is all they will have, so its
important they don't feel as though they've been jipped out of
accessibility. The vast majority of blind computer users on the Windows 10
list also don't feel as you do.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:51 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this

I have no objection to people disagreeing with me and stating their
position. But I don't find any of those reasons compelling. I'll discuss
why.

I get plenty of speed with Windows 7. I am careful about security and I am
not very worried about being infected, though it may happen. If I wanted to
protect myself against the possibility with a quick recovery option, I'd
make a disk image. Yes, you are correct that it's a nice feature to be able
to revert to a clean new Windows as is offered in Windows 10. I know
Windows 8 offers such an option as well.

Aside from the security discussion, which may induce others, but not me, to
upgrade, I've seen annoying problem after annoying problem discussed on this
and other lists that people ask about after upgrading. I also see messages
from people who are happy with their upgrades. Evidently, most metro apps
are not accessible or not properly so. I don't want to play with Curtana
particularly. I don't want to take a chance on having problems such as
forced driver updates. I can use sleep and resume from sleep very quickly.
I'm not going to worry about if Windows 10 resumes from sleep a possible
number of seconds faster. With all the seconds in a day, a possible small
number of seconds longer to resume from sleep doesn't bother me.

I still see no compeling reason to upgrade from my Windows 7 installation,
which works very well, to have possible problems and annoyances that I don't
have now.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Jeremy <mailto:jeremy.richards7@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:25 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this

Though Gene, as a single individual out of the 300 million or so who have
adopted Windows 10, may not personally see any new compelling reasons for
upgrading to Windows 10, for those interested in easy maintenance and
restoration of one's computer in the event of a bad virus infection or other
operating system corruption, Windows 10 is the best OS Microsoft has
released in terms of blind individuals independently performing such low
level maintenance.

The security has also been strengthened in Windows 10.

Microsoft has spent lots of time and effort improving the under-the-hood
performance of Windows 10, and the user will definitely feel it since it
starts up very quickly whether one is using the fast boot or not.

Personally, I have installed the StartIsBack start menu utility on my new
Windows 10 laptop, and the overall experience feels just like Windows7 with
the benefits of the new modern Windows 10 OS. From the point when I sit down
at my desk and open the lid of my laptop, within about 3 seconds I'm right
where I left off when I left my home with all open Windows right where I
need them. In terms of my normal workday, Windows 10's deficits don't
present themselves, but when doing more detailed techy type work, the
annoying deficits quickly appear.

Yes, there are some problems, and like I stated in my previous message, most
novice to average computer users will not even notice the Windows 10
accessibility issues.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this

And because I see no compelling new features in Windows 10 when compared
with Windows 7, and because Microsoft is giving away Windows 10 to serve its
own purposes of monitizing the new version of Windows, and nott to be
altruistic, I won't upgrade to Windows 10.

Gene

From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this

I have at least two of your podcast. you was training users to navigate WLM
ribbons on one. I still dislike ribbons but I guess they make sense for
sighted users. And, I forget exactly the topic on the second podcast. But,
You certainly do enough here. I save a lot of emails and make notes. I
share helpful information with others. Just not for 5 hours in one session.

I’m getting a bit too old to learn new tricks. And, I don’t really embrace
change. I don’t mind when MS makes improvements with their OS but change
just for the sake of change or to increase corporate bottom lines is
irritating to me.
Regards,

James


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this

There are some people willing to help extensively. While I haven't provided
help to someone for five hours at one time, I have done some volunteer
teaching and technical help.

I suspect that, along with wanting to help, people who provide technical
help extensively do so in part because of the challenge of figuring out what
is causing a problem if that matters, and how to solve whatever is not
working properly or whatever the problem is. In other words the desire to
help is one motivation. but assuming that many people with technical
knowledge have similar motivations to mine, the challenge and curiosity of
what is causing a problem or how it is presenting itself and how to solve it
is also a strong motivation.

I can still help but since I haven't kept up with newer versions of windows
and since I am not interested in many popular activities such as Facebook, I
can't help as much as I used to when I was more current in my knowledge.
But I still help people by phone now and then when a situation presents.

Gene.
----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this

Hi Carolyn,

I couldn't agree with you more. I help friends with their computers almost
every day but, last night showed me that I still have much to learn.

Since I like helping my friends, I can understand the desire to want to
assist others but, 5 hours with a total stranger? Well, We're not exactly
strangers any more.

You take care,

James



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this

My husband said one time, when a former list member spent time like that
helping me with Windows 10 and Outlook, "I can't imagine someone spending
time like that helping someone." It is great to get a helping hand like
Jeremy gave you, James.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk]
Apparently, I don't know how to do this

Hi everyone,

This is an update concerning the problems I was having setting up a new Dell
laptop with Windows10. For some reason, Narrator kept loosing focus almost
every time that I hit the next button. And, in addition , Narrator wasn't
reading enough of the buttons and edit fields to allow me to get the job
done. I had been dealing with the problem almost all night.

However, A member of this list just worked on my laptop via Jaws Tandem for
around 5 hours. Jeremy managed to navigate the setup screen and get me
going. And, in my defense, he said my system was unusually difficult to
setup.

He installed a lot of software and made a lot of changes in Windows settings
to cause the OS to work more efficiently and to be more accessible .
Plus, he answered almost a dozen questions.

I just really can't explain how helpful Jeremy was for me this morning.
Man, he spent around five hours.

Carlos, Gene, Jeremy and all of the rest of you are totally major help for
those of us who sometimes struggle with something like getting a new system
up and going. It would be quite frustrating to spend so much money on a new
laptop and get stuck using it for an expensive paperweight.

I'm glad to be here. So many thanks to all.

Awe, now, the joys of learning to deal with Windows 10.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

Microsoft did not remove that feature. It is still possible to complete
Windows setup using Narrator. The issue is more that he is confused by the
setup dialogs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this


None of these answers address the questioin of how to do it accessibly. The
simple and disgusting fact is, Microsoft goofed. They took away something we
had in Windows 7--namely, that upon first post-installation boot, or
post-unboxing boot, it was formery possible to immediately start Narrator
and finish the initial setup sequence before installing a real screenreader.
Not so any more.
Thanks,
Microsoft. One step forward, two steps back.

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 06:19:46 -0400, you wrote:

Hi, do you have someone you could face time either with
your iPhone or with
skype or use a app like be my eyes?





<mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>
Matt.from.florida@...



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do
this



I wish I could help more, but it's been a while and I don't
remember the
setup dialogs well enough. If you choose

"Express Settings",

you will eventually wind up in a dialog to create your user
account. The
first dialog will create a Microsoft account and if you
skip it, the next
dialog will create a local account instead.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:03 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this



I have noticed for around one year now, you guys and gals
are setting up
Windows 10 without sighted help. Well, I just took a brand
new Dell laptop
out of the box, actually around 3 hours ago, and, I ain't
having no luck at
all.



My goal for just right now is to create a local account.
Just get in to
Windows and turn off the logon screen. Then, I should be
able to install
Jaws. I'm even willing to skip the custome install and go
back later to
adjust privacy settings.



I can get Narrator going but I can't figure out how to get
to where I need
to be to give my local user name, password, etc. I see
lots of yes and no
buttons...they also don't say what I am saying yes or no
for. And, there
are those edit fields, but, Narrator doesn't explain to me
what Windows10
wants in these edit fields. Actually, I haven't even
figured out how to
use the keyboard to shut the laptop down. I know, give it
up...but, I
won't!



Boy! Am I ever having loads of fun! Anyone want to join
in with me?

Anyone awake enough to help out?



Thank you,



James





**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a
bad example.


Re: Consumer products label and directions website

Smiling?
 

directionsForMe.org is back up, very cool and thanks for putting it up letting us know.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blaster Nil8
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Consumer products label and directions website

I found a website that provides consumer products label information
including, directions for use and ingredients info. They also have a
barcode scanner for sale that works with the website. check it out,

http://www.directionsforme.org

HTH,
Blaster


Re: Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

Carlos
 


Actually it does make a difference.  The generic High Definition driver does not display the
"Enhancements"
tab.  I should have mentioned this point, but I was assuming the driver had already been forcefully updated again.  Although the generic driver also does not cause the problem with distorted audio.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

Are you looking for the enhancements tab when you arn'te having a problem with the soundcard or when you are?  It may be that if a forced driver update is occurring, that you may see enhancements when one driver is being used but not the other.  So if you are looking while you are using the older driver that works properly, it might be worth looking again once the problem returns.  I wouldn't expect the driver being used to make a difference but you never know. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

OK Carlos,
 
It was worth a try.  I found a major amount of things that I had forgot were in there.  But, no enhancement tab, so I couldn’t disable all sound affects.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
The following solution for the issue with distorted audio from Realtek sound cards did not work for me previously, but it does work for me now so it may be worth a try.
 
1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog.
 
2. Type
mmsys.cpl
followed by Enter.
 
3. When the
"Sound"
dialog opens, select the
"Speakers / Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)"
device from the list on the
"Playback"
tab.
 
4. Tab to the
"Properties"
button and select it.
 
5. Navigate to the
"Enhancements"
tab if you can find it.
 
6. Enable the
"Disable all sound effects"
checkbox.
 
7. Select the
"OK"
button twice to close the
"Properties"
and
"Sound"
dialogs respectively.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:40 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hello everyone,
 
My problem with RealTech sound cards started over 14 months ago when I purchased a new Dell 2-in-1 laptop.  Its sound was pretty decent until Microsoft forced
Win10 updates on to the computer.  The sound card drivers that MS forces on to the computer makes it sound horrible.  Loads of distortion.  Crackly sound, and worse of all, if the computer hasn’t been used for just a few seconds, the first character or word that you type is not sounded through the speakers.  I gave FS, MS, and Dell lots of opportunities to resolve the problem with zero results so I sent the laptop back to Dell.  I figured that in a year or so MS or someone would have come up with a solution.  Man, was I ever wrong.
 
The new Dell 2-in-1 laptop that I just got yesterday sounded so fine.  I really couldn’t believe how awesome it sounded.
 
That is Until, Yet again, MS forced updates with what I am assuming also contained sound card drivers for the RealTech sound card on to the unit.  A quick phone call to VFO/FS revealed that they do not know of a solution.
 
Anyway, since I plan on making this laptop my main computer located on my desk in my living room.  I am wondering if an external USB sound card might fix most of the problem.  The laptop would still sound terrible when used as a portable but, I think it should sound fine running it through my regular computer speakers and my receiver as long as I plug everything in to the external sound card.
 
If I am understanding this right, the USB external sound card uses no drivers.  I am thinking that you just plug it in and it works.
 
Important, Can someone tell me if MS updates will screw up an external USB sound card?  If not, What’s a good external sound card?  Hopefully with two analog inputs and a microphone input.
 
I really hope to be able to keep this laptop because I like so many other things about it.Its extremely fast.
 
As always, many thanks for your input,
 
James
 
**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

Carlos
 


Hmm, unfortunately this seems to confirm my previous observation that the
"Enhancements"
tab is not always visible.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

OK Carlos,
 
It was worth a try.  I found a major amount of things that I had forgot were in there.  But, no enhancement tab, so I couldn’t disable all sound affects.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
The following solution for the issue with distorted audio from Realtek sound cards did not work for me previously, but it does work for me now so it may be worth a try.
 
1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog.
 
2. Type
mmsys.cpl
followed by Enter.
 
3. When the
"Sound"
dialog opens, select the
"Speakers / Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)"
device from the list on the
"Playback"
tab.
 
4. Tab to the
"Properties"
button and select it.
 
5. Navigate to the
"Enhancements"
tab if you can find it.
 
6. Enable the
"Disable all sound effects"
checkbox.
 
7. Select the
"OK"
button twice to close the
"Properties"
and
"Sound"
dialogs respectively.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:40 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hello everyone,
 
My problem with RealTech sound cards started over 14 months ago when I purchased a new Dell 2-in-1 laptop.  Its sound was pretty decent until Microsoft forced
Win10 updates on to the computer.  The sound card drivers that MS forces on to the computer makes it sound horrible.  Loads of distortion.  Crackly sound, and worse of all, if the computer hasn’t been used for just a few seconds, the first character or word that you type is not sounded through the speakers.  I gave FS, MS, and Dell lots of opportunities to resolve the problem with zero results so I sent the laptop back to Dell.  I figured that in a year or so MS or someone would have come up with a solution.  Man, was I ever wrong.
 
The new Dell 2-in-1 laptop that I just got yesterday sounded so fine.  I really couldn’t believe how awesome it sounded.
 
That is Until, Yet again, MS forced updates with what I am assuming also contained sound card drivers for the RealTech sound card on to the unit.  A quick phone call to VFO/FS revealed that they do not know of a solution.
 
Anyway, since I plan on making this laptop my main computer located on my desk in my living room.  I am wondering if an external USB sound card might fix most of the problem.  The laptop would still sound terrible when used as a portable but, I think it should sound fine running it through my regular computer speakers and my receiver as long as I plug everything in to the external sound card.
 
If I am understanding this right, the USB external sound card uses no drivers.  I am thinking that you just plug it in and it works.
 
Important, Can someone tell me if MS updates will screw up an external USB sound card?  If not, What’s a good external sound card?  Hopefully with two analog inputs and a microphone input.
 
I really hope to be able to keep this laptop because I like so many other things about it.Its extremely fast.
 
As always, many thanks for your input,
 
James
 
**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

Gene
 

Are you looking for the enhancements tab when you arn'te having a problem with the soundcard or when you are?  It may be that if a forced driver update is occurring, that you may see enhancements when one driver is being used but not the other.  So if you are looking while you are using the older driver that works properly, it might be worth looking again once the problem returns.  I wouldn't expect the driver being used to make a difference but you never know. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

OK Carlos,
 
It was worth a try.  I found a major amount of things that I had forgot were in there.  But, no enhancement tab, so I couldn’t disable all sound affects.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
The following solution for the issue with distorted audio from Realtek sound cards did not work for me previously, but it does work for me now so it may be worth a try.
 
1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog.
 
2. Type
mmsys.cpl
followed by Enter.
 
3. When the
"Sound"
dialog opens, select the
"Speakers / Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)"
device from the list on the
"Playback"
tab.
 
4. Tab to the
"Properties"
button and select it.
 
5. Navigate to the
"Enhancements"
tab if you can find it.
 
6. Enable the
"Disable all sound effects"
checkbox.
 
7. Select the
"OK"
button twice to close the
"Properties"
and
"Sound"
dialogs respectively.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:40 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hello everyone,
 
My problem with RealTech sound cards started over 14 months ago when I purchased a new Dell 2-in-1 laptop.  Its sound was pretty decent until Microsoft forced
Win10 updates on to the computer.  The sound card drivers that MS forces on to the computer makes it sound horrible.  Loads of distortion.  Crackly sound, and worse of all, if the computer hasn’t been used for just a few seconds, the first character or word that you type is not sounded through the speakers.  I gave FS, MS, and Dell lots of opportunities to resolve the problem with zero results so I sent the laptop back to Dell.  I figured that in a year or so MS or someone would have come up with a solution.  Man, was I ever wrong.
 
The new Dell 2-in-1 laptop that I just got yesterday sounded so fine.  I really couldn’t believe how awesome it sounded.
 
That is Until, Yet again, MS forced updates with what I am assuming also contained sound card drivers for the RealTech sound card on to the unit.  A quick phone call to VFO/FS revealed that they do not know of a solution.
 
Anyway, since I plan on making this laptop my main computer located on my desk in my living room.  I am wondering if an external USB sound card might fix most of the problem.  The laptop would still sound terrible when used as a portable but, I think it should sound fine running it through my regular computer speakers and my receiver as long as I plug everything in to the external sound card.
 
If I am understanding this right, the USB external sound card uses no drivers.  I am thinking that you just plug it in and it works.
 
Important, Can someone tell me if MS updates will screw up an external USB sound card?  If not, What’s a good external sound card?  Hopefully with two analog inputs and a microphone input.
 
I really hope to be able to keep this laptop because I like so many other things about it.Its extremely fast.
 
As always, many thanks for your input,
 
James
 
**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time

James Bentley
 

OK Carlos,
 
It was worth a try.  I found a major amount of things that I had forgot were in there.  But, no enhancement tab, so I couldn’t disable all sound affects.
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
The following solution for the issue with distorted audio from Realtek sound cards did not work for me previously, but it does work for me now so it may be worth a try.
 
1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog.
 
2. Type
mmsys.cpl
followed by Enter.
 
3. When the
"Sound"
dialog opens, select the
"Speakers / Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)"
device from the list on the
"Playback"
tab.
 
4. Tab to the
"Properties"
button and select it.
 
5. Navigate to the
"Enhancements"
tab if you can find it.
 
6. Enable the
"Disable all sound effects"
checkbox.
 
7. Select the
"OK"
button twice to close the
"Properties"
and
"Sound"
dialogs respectively.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:40 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Maybe this sound card problem has been around for a long time
 
Hello everyone,
 
My problem with RealTech sound cards started over 14 months ago when I purchased a new Dell 2-in-1 laptop.  Its sound was pretty decent until Microsoft forced
Win10 updates on to the computer.  The sound card drivers that MS forces on to the computer makes it sound horrible.  Loads of distortion.  Crackly sound, and worse of all, if the computer hasn’t been used for just a few seconds, the first character or word that you type is not sounded through the speakers.  I gave FS, MS, and Dell lots of opportunities to resolve the problem with zero results so I sent the laptop back to Dell.  I figured that in a year or so MS or someone would have come up with a solution.  Man, was I ever wrong.
 
The new Dell 2-in-1 laptop that I just got yesterday sounded so fine.  I really couldn’t believe how awesome it sounded.
 
That is Until, Yet again, MS forced updates with what I am assuming also contained sound card drivers for the RealTech sound card on to the unit.  A quick phone call to VFO/FS revealed that they do not know of a solution.
 
Anyway, since I plan on making this laptop my main computer located on my desk in my living room.  I am wondering if an external USB sound card might fix most of the problem.  The laptop would still sound terrible when used as a portable but, I think it should sound fine running it through my regular computer speakers and my receiver as long as I plug everything in to the external sound card.
 
If I am understanding this right, the USB external sound card uses no drivers.  I am thinking that you just plug it in and it works.
 
Important, Can someone tell me if MS updates will screw up an external USB sound card?  If not, What’s a good external sound card?  Hopefully with two analog inputs and a microphone input.
 
I really hope to be able to keep this laptop because I like so many other things about it.Its extremely fast.
 
As always, many thanks for your input,
 
James
 
**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, Apparently, I don't know how to do this

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Thank you all guys. It was fun.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

And once again I was not arguing the usefulness of such a feature. I did not twist your words since I never claimed you said it was a cure all. I said that you should stop treating it as if it is a cure all solution. You have not explicitly referred to it in that manner, but you continue to present it as an alternative to disk images when it is not even comparable.
And while your words are not belligerent, your tone as usual most certainly is especially when referring to Gene.
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From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this


The reset feature is a great solution for a significant amount of problems or else Microsoft wouldn't have thought to take the time and effort into developing it and implementing it in Win8 and Windows 10. I have never used the word "cure all" when discussing this matter. When you take someone's words and twist them around to redirect the conversation, you're actually defeating the purpose of this list, which is to get a diverse perspective on solving various computer problems. I've not been belligerent at all during this whole discussion, so I don't know why the subtle putdowns.

Disk images are not the only solution, it might be your solution, but it is not the only solution for the issues you described.

JR

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

You should really stop treating this Windows 10 "Reset" feature as if it is some kind of cure all solution. Once again while it is certainly useful, it relies on being able to boot into Windows. If a corrupt installation prevents you from booting, you will not be able to use the "Reset" feature without sighted assistance. For this reason, disk images are extremely useful. Not to mention being able to restore your system to a working state without the need to reinstall applications and reconfigure settings. No one claiming to be an advanced user would or should think otherwise.
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From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this


Well, you've never experienced Windows 10, so you are not aware of what those few seconds during boot up or after coming out of sleep feel like when you're someone who wants to get their work completed or repeatedly take ideas down without having to wait. Believe me, not waiting even a few seconds makes a positive difference when it happens several times a day. On Tuesday I was helping a colleague with their Windows7 computer, and I must have asked him about 3 times if his computer had fully started--I've been spoiled by SSD drives and Windows 10.

In my opinion, disk images are a headache--the average user, and most on this list, will not be able to perform that involved process--even with sighted help. When the time comes, Windows 10's reset feature is easy enough for a child to perform.

The similar annoyances you speak of were also conveyed by those moving from Windows 98 ME to XP, and when moving from XP to Windows7, and so on.

Yes, you're right, Windows 10 is not specifically for you, but I'm only commenting for the benefit of others who are currently using W10. On the next purchase of a computer, most are not likely to be given a choice when it comes to a new computer since Windows 10 is all they will have, so its important they don't feel as though they've been jipped out of accessibility. The vast majority of blind computer users on the Windows 10 list also don't feel as you do.

JR

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:51 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

I have no objection to people disagreeing with me and stating their position. But I don't find any of those reasons compelling. I'll discuss why.

I get plenty of speed with Windows 7. I am careful about security and I am not very worried about being infected, though it may happen. If I wanted to protect myself against the possibility with a quick recovery option, I'd make a disk image. Yes, you are correct that it's a nice feature to be able to revert to a clean new Windows as is offered in Windows 10. I know Windows 8 offers such an option as well.

Aside from the security discussion, which may induce others, but not me, to upgrade, I've seen annoying problem after annoying problem discussed on this and other lists that people ask about after upgrading. I also see messages from people who are happy with their upgrades. Evidently, most metro apps are not accessible or not properly so. I don't want to play with Curtana particularly. I don't want to take a chance on having problems such as forced driver updates. I can use sleep and resume from sleep very quickly.
I'm not going to worry about if Windows 10 resumes from sleep a possible number of seconds faster. With all the seconds in a day, a possible small number of seconds longer to resume from sleep doesn't bother me.

I still see no compeling reason to upgrade from my Windows 7 installation, which works very well, to have possible problems and annoyances that I don't have now.

Gene
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From: Jeremy <mailto:jeremy.richards7@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:25 AM
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Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

Though Gene, as a single individual out of the 300 million or so who have adopted Windows 10, may not personally see any new compelling reasons for upgrading to Windows 10, for those interested in easy maintenance and restoration of one's computer in the event of a bad virus infection or other operating system corruption, Windows 10 is the best OS Microsoft has released in terms of blind individuals independently performing such low level maintenance.

The security has also been strengthened in Windows 10.

Microsoft has spent lots of time and effort improving the under-the-hood performance of Windows 10, and the user will definitely feel it since it starts up very quickly whether one is using the fast boot or not.

Personally, I have installed the StartIsBack start menu utility on my new Windows 10 laptop, and the overall experience feels just like Windows7 with the benefits of the new modern Windows 10 OS. From the point when I sit down at my desk and open the lid of my laptop, within about 3 seconds I'm right where I left off when I left my home with all open Windows right where I need them. In terms of my normal workday, Windows 10's deficits don't present themselves, but when doing more detailed techy type work, the annoying deficits quickly appear.

Yes, there are some problems, and like I stated in my previous message, most novice to average computer users will not even notice the Windows 10 accessibility issues.

JR

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

And because I see no compelling new features in Windows 10 when compared with Windows 7, and because Microsoft is giving away Windows 10 to serve its own purposes of monitizing the new version of Windows, and nott to be altruistic, I won't upgrade to Windows 10.

Gene

From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

I have at least two of your podcast. you was training users to navigate WLM ribbons on one. I still dislike ribbons but I guess they make sense for sighted users. And, I forget exactly the topic on the second podcast. But, You certainly do enough here. I save a lot of emails and make notes. I share helpful information with others. Just not for 5 hours in one session.

I’m getting a bit too old to learn new tricks. And, I don’t really embrace change. I don’t mind when MS makes improvements with their OS but change just for the sake of change or to increase corporate bottom lines is irritating to me.
Regards,

James


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

There are some people willing to help extensively. While I haven't provided help to someone for five hours at one time, I have done some volunteer teaching and technical help.

I suspect that, along with wanting to help, people who provide technical help extensively do so in part because of the challenge of figuring out what is causing a problem if that matters, and how to solve whatever is not working properly or whatever the problem is. In other words the desire to help is one motivation. but assuming that many people with technical knowledge have similar motivations to mine, the challenge and curiosity of what is causing a problem or how it is presenting itself and how to solve it is also a strong motivation.

I can still help but since I haven't kept up with newer versions of windows and since I am not interested in many popular activities such as Facebook, I can't help as much as I used to when I was more current in my knowledge.
But I still help people by phone now and then when a situation presents.

Gene.
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From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

Hi Carolyn,

I couldn't agree with you more. I help friends with their computers almost every day but, last night showed me that I still have much to learn.

Since I like helping my friends, I can understand the desire to want to assist others but, 5 hours with a total stranger? Well, We're not exactly strangers any more.

You take care,

James



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

My husband said one time, when a former list member spent time like that helping me with Windows 10 and Outlook, "I can't imagine someone spending time like that helping someone." It is great to get a helping hand like Jeremy gave you, James.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: I'm sure lucky to be a member of this list, was, [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

Hi everyone,

This is an update concerning the problems I was having setting up a new Dell laptop with Windows10. For some reason, Narrator kept loosing focus almost every time that I hit the next button. And, in addition , Narrator wasn't reading enough of the buttons and edit fields to allow me to get the job done. I had been dealing with the problem almost all night.

However, A member of this list just worked on my laptop via Jaws Tandem for around 5 hours. Jeremy managed to navigate the setup screen and get me going. And, in my defense, he said my system was unusually difficult to setup.

He installed a lot of software and made a lot of changes in Windows settings to cause the OS to work more efficiently and to be more accessible .
Plus, he answered almost a dozen questions.

I just really can't explain how helpful Jeremy was for me this morning.
Man, he spent around five hours.

Carlos, Gene, Jeremy and all of the rest of you are totally major help for those of us who sometimes struggle with something like getting a new system up and going. It would be quite frustrating to spend so much money on a new laptop and get stuck using it for an expensive paperweight.

I'm glad to be here. So many thanks to all.

Awe, now, the joys of learning to deal with Windows 10.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this

Microsoft did not remove that feature. It is still possible to complete Windows setup using Narrator. The issue is more that he is confused by the setup dialogs.
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From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this


None of these answers address the questioin of how to do it accessibly. The simple and disgusting fact is, Microsoft goofed. They took away something we had in Windows 7--namely, that upon first post-installation boot, or post-unboxing boot, it was formery possible to immediately start Narrator and finish the initial setup sequence before installing a real screenreader.
Not so any more.
Thanks,
Microsoft. One step forward, two steps back.

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 06:19:46 -0400, you wrote:

Hi, do you have someone you could face time either with
your iPhone or with
skype or use a app like be my eyes?





<mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>
Matt.from.florida@...



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do
this



I wish I could help more, but it's been a while and I don't
remember the
setup dialogs well enough. If you choose

"Express Settings",

you will eventually wind up in a dialog to create your user
account. The
first dialog will create a Microsoft account and if you
skip it, the next
dialog will create a local account instead.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:03 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Apparently, I don't know how to do this



I have noticed for around one year now, you guys and gals
are setting up
Windows 10 without sighted help. Well, I just took a brand
new Dell laptop
out of the box, actually around 3 hours ago, and, I ain't
having no luck at
all.



My goal for just right now is to create a local account.
Just get in to
Windows and turn off the logon screen. Then, I should be
able to install
Jaws. I'm even willing to skip the custome install and go
back later to
adjust privacy settings.



I can get Narrator going but I can't figure out how to get
to where I need
to be to give my local user name, password, etc. I see
lots of yes and no
buttons...they also don't say what I am saying yes or no
for. And, there
are those edit fields, but, Narrator doesn't explain to me
what Windows10
wants in these edit fields. Actually, I haven't even
figured out how to
use the keyboard to shut the laptop down. I know, give it
up...but, I
won't!



Boy! Am I ever having loads of fun! Anyone want to join
in with me?

Anyone awake enough to help out?



Thank you,



James





**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a
bad example.