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Re: DOWNLOAD MANAGERS?

Billy Inglis
 

thanks again Carlos,

On 31/07/2016 21:16, Carlos wrote:
Free Download Manager,
http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/
but it is not new.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Inglis"
<william.inglis72@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 4:11 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] DOWNLOAD MANAGERS?


HI GUYS, I'm looking for a good accessible file download manager. I am
using IDM at the moment, but was wondering if there was anything new
on the market?, Billy





Re: Help with new install of WLM

Marie
 

I agree with this totally, the system seems to be the culprit in this instance.
Marie
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
We don't know how the system was set up where the problems with Windows Live Mail occurred.  The manufacturer may have set things in such a way as to cause screen-reader's problems.  As I recall, it was this same system that wouldn't read the setup screen properly with Narrator.  these problems may be caused by the manufacturer.  But we may never know. 
 
Gene
----- Original messsage -----
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I think I mis-read your previous message about NVDA. I did indeed do a new install after first upgrading to Win 10. I have been using Win 10 for around 8 months now and have very few problems with the OS. And I did not have to spend an unusual amount of time tweaking WLM to work with it. Occasionally when there is an update to the OS or to Jaws, little things crop up but I presume that happens with many programs. So far, there has been nothing which did not either resolve itself or take some minor adjustments have surfaced for me.
Perhaps I am lucky or it is because I have used WLM since the very first version.Over all, it has been one of the easiest email clients I have used. But I realize that not all systems do things the same way but I am running the same OS, screen reader and WLM on my Lenovo desktop, an Asus laptop and and older Toshiba laptop and get pretty much the same performance.
 
Marie
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I don't have an opinion about whether repairing or reinstalling is better in a lot of cases.  But for those who upgrade to Windows 7, reinstalling NVDA is advised by knowledgeable users.  In the case of JAWS, I don't know so if it were me, I would reinstall it unless I've already seen that the currently installed copy is working properly. 
 
It doesn't matter how many times you uninstall JAWS.  It has no effect on authorization keys.  the key is not removed.  Removing the key involves taking specific actions that have nothing to do with uninstalling or repairing. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
In my case, I was setting up a new Win10 laptop with Jaws and WLM.  But, since you mention reinstalling screen readers, is it better to repair Jaws or just reinstall?  Do you use up an authorization key either way?
 
I will let Jeremy decide for himself as to how practical it might be to discuss the methods he used in my case. but at my computer knowledge level, making WLM accessible with Jaws was kind of involved.
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
That may be.  Perhaps if Jeremy's solution might be applicable for others, he might send it, if it isn't so involved that that might not be practical.  And, as I said, reinstalling your screen-reader if you have upgraded While the screen-reader was still installed may solve this and/or other problems.  Problems using Outlook were solved by NVDA users in this way.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Marie,
 
I can’t address all screen readers.  In my case, I am using Jaws17 on a brand new laptop running Windows10.  It appears that WLM needs some tweeking before it will work with Windows10 and Jaws.
 
Regards,
 
James
 
.
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: DOWNLOAD MANAGERS?

Carlos
 

Free Download Manager,
http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/
but it is not new.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Inglis" <william.inglis72@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 4:11 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] DOWNLOAD MANAGERS?


HI GUYS, I'm looking for a good accessible file download manager. I am using IDM at the moment, but was wondering if there was anything new on the market?, Billy


Re: Help with new install of WLM

Gene
 

We don't know how the system was set up where the problems with Windows Live Mail occurred.  The manufacturer may have set things in such a way as to cause screen-reader's problems.  As I recall, it was this same system that wouldn't read the setup screen properly with Narrator.  these problems may be caused by the manufacturer.  But we may never know. 
 
Gene
----- Original messsage -----

From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM

I think I mis-read your previous message about NVDA. I did indeed do a new install after first upgrading to Win 10. I have been using Win 10 for around 8 months now and have very few problems with the OS. And I did not have to spend an unusual amount of time tweaking WLM to work with it. Occasionally when there is an update to the OS or to Jaws, little things crop up but I presume that happens with many programs. So far, there has been nothing which did not either resolve itself or take some minor adjustments have surfaced for me.
Perhaps I am lucky or it is because I have used WLM since the very first version.Over all, it has been one of the easiest email clients I have used. But I realize that not all systems do things the same way but I am running the same OS, screen reader and WLM on my Lenovo desktop, an Asus laptop and and older Toshiba laptop and get pretty much the same performance.
 
Marie
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I don't have an opinion about whether repairing or reinstalling is better in a lot of cases.  But for those who upgrade to Windows 7, reinstalling NVDA is advised by knowledgeable users.  In the case of JAWS, I don't know so if it were me, I would reinstall it unless I've already seen that the currently installed copy is working properly. 
 
It doesn't matter how many times you uninstall JAWS.  It has no effect on authorization keys.  the key is not removed.  Removing the key involves taking specific actions that have nothing to do with uninstalling or repairing. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
In my case, I was setting up a new Win10 laptop with Jaws and WLM.  But, since you mention reinstalling screen readers, is it better to repair Jaws or just reinstall?  Do you use up an authorization key either way?
 
I will let Jeremy decide for himself as to how practical it might be to discuss the methods he used in my case. but at my computer knowledge level, making WLM accessible with Jaws was kind of involved.
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
That may be.  Perhaps if Jeremy's solution might be applicable for others, he might send it, if it isn't so involved that that might not be practical.  And, as I said, reinstalling your screen-reader if you have upgraded While the screen-reader was still installed may solve this and/or other problems.  Problems using Outlook were solved by NVDA users in this way.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Marie,
 
I can’t address all screen readers.  In my case, I am using Jaws17 on a brand new laptop running Windows10.  It appears that WLM needs some tweeking before it will work with Windows10 and Jaws.
 
Regards,
 
James
 
.
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


DOWNLOAD MANAGERS?

Billy Inglis
 

HI GUYS, I'm looking for a good accessible file download manager. I am using IDM at the moment, but was wondering if there was anything new on the market?, Billy


Re: Help with new install of WLM

Gene
 

I don't know if it matters. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM

Since I don’t use NVDA as my primary screen reader, I have not re-installed it but I will do so. Do I need to un-install the current version and then do a fresh install? Thanks for the heads up.
Maries
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
Did you reinstall NVDA after the Windows 10 upgrade?  I don't know if the information on the NVDa site tells users to do so but it is advised, by knowledgeable users, that this be done.  Problems have been solved in that way regarding how certain programs work with NVDA.  If you haven't done so, reinstalling may solve this problem.  I wouldn't be surprised if reinstalling JAWS would help with some problems as well, although I have seen almost no discussion of this.  But one list member just reported today that reinstalling JAWS solved a problem he was having. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: Help with new install of WLM

Marie
 

I think I mis-read your previous message about NVDA. I did indeed do a new install after first upgrading to Win 10. I have been using Win 10 for around 8 months now and have very few problems with the OS. And I did not have to spend an unusual amount of time tweaking WLM to work with it. Occasionally when there is an update to the OS or to Jaws, little things crop up but I presume that happens with many programs. So far, there has been nothing which did not either resolve itself or take some minor adjustments have surfaced for me.
Perhaps I am lucky or it is because I have used WLM since the very first version.Over all, it has been one of the easiest email clients I have used. But I realize that not all systems do things the same way but I am running the same OS, screen reader and WLM on my Lenovo desktop, an Asus laptop and and older Toshiba laptop and get pretty much the same performance.
 
Marie

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I don't have an opinion about whether repairing or reinstalling is better in a lot of cases.  But for those who upgrade to Windows 7, reinstalling NVDA is advised by knowledgeable users.  In the case of JAWS, I don't know so if it were me, I would reinstall it unless I've already seen that the currently installed copy is working properly. 
 
It doesn't matter how many times you uninstall JAWS.  It has no effect on authorization keys.  the key is not removed.  Removing the key involves taking specific actions that have nothing to do with uninstalling or repairing. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
In my case, I was setting up a new Win10 laptop with Jaws and WLM.  But, since you mention reinstalling screen readers, is it better to repair Jaws or just reinstall?  Do you use up an authorization key either way?
 
I will let Jeremy decide for himself as to how practical it might be to discuss the methods he used in my case. but at my computer knowledge level, making WLM accessible with Jaws was kind of involved.
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
That may be.  Perhaps if Jeremy's solution might be applicable for others, he might send it, if it isn't so involved that that might not be practical.  And, as I said, reinstalling your screen-reader if you have upgraded While the screen-reader was still installed may solve this and/or other problems.  Problems using Outlook were solved by NVDA users in this way.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Marie,
 
I can’t address all screen readers.  In my case, I am using Jaws17 on a brand new laptop running Windows10.  It appears that WLM needs some tweeking before it will work with Windows10 and Jaws.
 
Regards,
 
James
 
.
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: Help with new install of WLM

Marie
 

Since I don’t use NVDA as my primary screen reader, I have not re-installed it but I will do so. Do I need to un-install the current version and then do a fresh install? Thanks for the heads up.
Maries
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
Did you reinstall NVDA after the Windows 10 upgrade?  I don't know if the information on the NVDa site tells users to do so but it is advised, by knowledgeable users, that this be done.  Problems have been solved in that way regarding how certain programs work with NVDA.  If you haven't done so, reinstalling may solve this problem.  I wouldn't be surprised if reinstalling JAWS would help with some problems as well, although I have seen almost no discussion of this.  But one list member just reported today that reinstalling JAWS solved a problem he was having. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: Help with new install of WLM

Gene
 

I don't have an opinion about whether repairing or reinstalling is better in a lot of cases.  But for those who upgrade to Windows 7, reinstalling NVDA is advised by knowledgeable users.  In the case of JAWS, I don't know so if it were me, I would reinstall it unless I've already seen that the currently installed copy is working properly. 
 
It doesn't matter how many times you uninstall JAWS.  It has no effect on authorization keys.  the key is not removed.  Removing the key involves taking specific actions that have nothing to do with uninstalling or repairing. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM

Hi Gene,
 
In my case, I was setting up a new Win10 laptop with Jaws and WLM.  But, since you mention reinstalling screen readers, is it better to repair Jaws or just reinstall?  Do you use up an authorization key either way?
 
I will let Jeremy decide for himself as to how practical it might be to discuss the methods he used in my case. but at my computer knowledge level, making WLM accessible with Jaws was kind of involved.
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
That may be.  Perhaps if Jeremy's solution might be applicable for others, he might send it, if it isn't so involved that that might not be practical.  And, as I said, reinstalling your screen-reader if you have upgraded While the screen-reader was still installed may solve this and/or other problems.  Problems using Outlook were solved by NVDA users in this way.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Marie,
 
I can’t address all screen readers.  In my case, I am using Jaws17 on a brand new laptop running Windows10.  It appears that WLM needs some tweeking before it will work with Windows10 and Jaws.
 
Regards,
 
James
 
.
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: Help with new install of WLM

James Bentley
 

Hi Gene,
 
In my case, I was setting up a new Win10 laptop with Jaws and WLM.  But, since you mention reinstalling screen readers, is it better to repair Jaws or just reinstall?  Do you use up an authorization key either way?
 
I will let Jeremy decide for himself as to how practical it might be to discuss the methods he used in my case. but at my computer knowledge level, making WLM accessible with Jaws was kind of involved.
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
That may be.  Perhaps if Jeremy's solution might be applicable for others, he might send it, if it isn't so involved that that might not be practical.  And, as I said, reinstalling your screen-reader if you have upgraded While the screen-reader was still installed may solve this and/or other problems.  Problems using Outlook were solved by NVDA users in this way.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Marie,
 
I can’t address all screen readers.  In my case, I am using Jaws17 on a brand new laptop running Windows10.  It appears that WLM needs some tweeking before it will work with Windows10 and Jaws.
 
Regards,
 
James
 
.
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: Help with new install of WLM

Gene
 

That may be.  Perhaps if Jeremy's solution might be applicable for others, he might send it, if it isn't so involved that that might not be practical.  And, as I said, reinstalling your screen-reader if you have upgraded While the screen-reader was still installed may solve this and/or other problems.  Problems using Outlook were solved by NVDA users in this way.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM

Hi Marie,
 
I can’t address all screen readers.  In my case, I am using Jaws17 on a brand new laptop running Windows10.  It appears that WLM needs some tweeking before it will work with Windows10 and Jaws.
 
Regards,
 
James
 
.
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: Help with new install of WLM

Gene
 

Did you reinstall NVDA after the Windows 10 upgrade?  I don't know if the information on the NVDa site tells users to do so but it is advised, by knowledgeable users, that this be done.  Problems have been solved in that way regarding how certain programs work with NVDA.  If you haven't done so, reinstalling may solve this problem.  I wouldn't be surprised if reinstalling JAWS would help with some problems as well, although I have seen almost no discussion of this.  But one list member just reported today that reinstalling JAWS solved a problem he was having. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM

Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: Help with new install of WLM

James Bentley
 

Hi,
 
We are using the exact same version of WLM.  I downloaded mine from Microsoft yesterday.  It was in a package of programs called Windows Esentials.
 
Marie, are you using WLM with Windows10?  If so, did you have to do any tweeking to get Jaws to read the fields that show name, subject, date, etc?
 
James
 
with
 

From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I am running 16.432580331
and I believe this to be the latest version.
Marie
 
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hello Marie,
I downloaded Windows Essentials 2012 from Microsoft this morning.  I got Version 16 point something, on the WLM.  If you are using Jaws, you can type Jaws key plus the control key, plus the letter V to find out exactly the version of WLM you are using.
 
If you don’t mind, could you check to see what version of WLM you are using?
 
Many thanks,
 
James
 
 
 
From: Marie
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Gene,
I am using WLM 2012 with win 10 and indeed the default is to see the name, subject and date when arrowing through messages.
Marie
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: Help with new install of WLM

James Bentley
 

Hi Marie,
 
I can’t address all screen readers.  In my case, I am using Jaws17 on a brand new laptop running Windows10.  It appears that WLM needs some tweeking before it will work with Windows10 and Jaws.
 
Regards,
 
James
 
.

From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: Question About iStick and Appandora,

Walter Ramage
 

Hi Monica. Forgot to say, the iStick App you have may not work, a new
iStick is available from the app store, it is called iStick Pro. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Monica Jones
Sent: 31 July 2016 17:02
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question About iStick and Appandora,

Hi Walter, do you put the Andora app on your phone as wel as the computer? I

have the IStick app on my phone already for when I get it. I downloaded it a

long time when you first talked about it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 1:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question About iStick and Appandora,

Hi Lisa. I've checked Amazon.com and they do have iSticks there under
"computers." You can download the Appandora programme from
www.Appandora.com and it is free. If I can be of any further help, just let
me know and I'll help if I can. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lisa Belville
Sent: 29 July 2016 18:54
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Question About iStick and Appandora,

Hi, Walter.

Coming from another person who despises iTunes with a passion. . . .Where
does one get this Appandora, program?

Also, I'm looking on Amazon for the iStick and can't find any results. I'm
either looking in the wrong departments-- Cell phones, computers, and
electronics, or Amazon doesn't cell it in the U.S.

TIA for the info.

Lisa

Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones, try a
different one each day.








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Twitter, @Monni52

Facebook, Monica Rose Jones


Re: Question About iStick and Appandora,

Walter Ramage
 

Hi Monica. No, the Appandora programme only goes on the computer, it is
simply a transfer tool. It highjacks the iTune drivers to put the music in
your iPhone default music folder but when you are running appandora, be sure
not to run iTunes. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Monica Jones
Sent: 31 July 2016 17:02
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question About iStick and Appandora,

Hi Walter, do you put the Andora app on your phone as wel as the computer? I

have the IStick app on my phone already for when I get it. I downloaded it a

long time when you first talked about it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 1:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question About iStick and Appandora,

Hi Lisa. I've checked Amazon.com and they do have iSticks there under
"computers." You can download the Appandora programme from
www.Appandora.com and it is free. If I can be of any further help, just let
me know and I'll help if I can. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lisa Belville
Sent: 29 July 2016 18:54
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Question About iStick and Appandora,

Hi, Walter.

Coming from another person who despises iTunes with a passion. . . .Where
does one get this Appandora, program?

Also, I'm looking on Amazon for the iStick and can't find any results. I'm
either looking in the wrong departments-- Cell phones, computers, and
electronics, or Amazon doesn't cell it in the U.S.

TIA for the info.

Lisa

Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones, try a
different one each day.








Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52

Facebook, Monica Rose Jones


Re: Question About iStick and Appandora,

Monica Jones
 

Hi Walter, do you put the Andora app on your phone as wel as the computer? I have the IStick app on my phone already for when I get it. I downloaded it a long time when you first talked about it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 1:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question About iStick and Appandora,

Hi Lisa. I've checked Amazon.com and they do have iSticks there under
"computers." You can download the Appandora programme from
www.Appandora.com and it is free. If I can be of any further help, just let
me know and I'll help if I can. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lisa Belville
Sent: 29 July 2016 18:54
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Question About iStick and Appandora,

Hi, Walter.

Coming from another person who despises iTunes with a passion. . . .Where
does one get this Appandora, program?

Also, I'm looking on Amazon for the iStick and can't find any results. I'm
either looking in the wrong departments-- Cell phones, computers, and
electronics, or Amazon doesn't cell it in the U.S.

TIA for the info.

Lisa

Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones, try a
different one each day.








Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52

Facebook, Monica Rose Jones


Re: FW: Free upgrade offer for assistive tech users: the page is live #msftenable #a11y

Monica Jones
 

Thank you, Joseph. I figured I would have to search it out and I can do it, but I sure appreciate the link.
 
 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 6:13 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] FW: Free upgrade offer for assistive tech users: the page is live #MSFTEnable #A11Y
 

Hi,

Hope you find this info useful.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:24 AM
To: 'win10@groups.io' <win10@groups.io>
Subject: Free upgrade offer for assistive tech users: the page is live #MSFTEnable #A11Y

 

Hi,

 

The info for those using assistive tech and wishing to upgrade is now available:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade

Cheers,

Joseph

 

Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52

Facebook, Monica Rose Jones


Re: Help with new install of WLM

Marie
 

Just for clarification, this problem reviewing your messages is only when using NVDA with WLM. this does not occur when using Jaws, or at least, I have never had that issue.
Marie
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
I haven't seen your problem discussed in relation to running Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.  I have no idea if there is some way to correct the problem but I don't think it will be by changing settings governing what fields are shown.  There is some problem I've seen discussed where, when people start composing or replying to a message, they have to leave the message window and return to it before they can see the text that is there or that they write.  I gather you can do this in any way that takes you out of and returns you to the Window.  But I would think the easiest would simply be to press alt once to leave the window and move into the menus, and then press alt again to return to the Window.  That is the only problem I've seen discussed until you raised yours and I don't know if this is a general problem or a problem you are having and a few others.  Windows Live Mail isn't supported in Windows 10 so even though you can use it, Microsoft made no effort to see that it worked properly in Windows 10.  I hope others will discuss whether they have this problem as well as provide information such as what screen-reader they are using.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi Gene,
 
The Name, date, and subject, have always been present running WLM Version 15 with Win7.
 
Now, with WLM16 running on Win10, its definitely messed up.  I hope I can fix this without needing to figure out how to revert back to WLM15, if it even works with Windows10.
 
Are you suggesting that there may be other known bugs with WLM16  with Windows10?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
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From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James
 




 


Re: Help with new install of WLM

Marie
 

I am running 16.432580331
and I believe this to be the latest version.
Marie
 
 

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hello Marie,
I downloaded Windows Essentials 2012 from Microsoft this morning.  I got Version 16 point something, on the WLM.  If you are using Jaws, you can type Jaws key plus the control key, plus the letter V to find out exactly the version of WLM you are using.
 
If you don’t mind, could you check to see what version of WLM you are using?
 
Many thanks,
 
James
 
 
 
From: Marie
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Gene,
I am using WLM 2012 with win 10 and indeed the default is to see the name, subject and date when arrowing through messages.
Marie
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
All that should be shown by default.  I'm not saying that you can't have more things shown but if you arrow through the message list and let your screen-reader read everything when you arrow to a message in the list, you should hear the name, subject and date.  At least that's the case in lower versions of Windows. 
If you are saying that you used to hear such information in an earlier version of Windows, then I would be worried that this is another way in which Windows Live Mail is not compatible with Windows 10.  I can check later today if no one else has provided the information of where to find the settings.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with new install of WLM
 
Hi everyone,
 
I’m using Jaws 17 and a fresh install of WLM, Version 16 on Windows10.
 
I seem to have 99.99% of the fresh install of WLM setup.
 
But, where in the ribbons do I go to tell WLM to show Name, subject, date, etc. when, I am arrowing through a list of emails.
 
I appreciate any tips,
 
James