----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Introduction

Hello Juanita,

 

I’ve been through Gladewater a time or two.  I don’t think I recall your name from any other list that I am on.  So,  I will take this opportunity to tell you that I  can guarantee you that this is a friendly list with a lot of experienced computer users who enjoy sharing their knowledge.

 

Good luck to you.  Now, I am off to reset a misbehaving laptop.

 

James

 

From: Juanita Martin

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:48 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Introduction

 

Hi James I live in Gladewater.  That’s a pretty old town too.

 

On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:44 AM, James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...> wrote:

 

Hey there Nance,

 

I’m from the oldest town in Texas. Nacogdoches.  Just so your screenreader will say that right.  It should sound like Nacodoechus.

I’ll bet we are only about 150 miles from each other as the crow flies.

 

James

 

 

From: N K Shackelford

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:30 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Introduction

 

Hi, James, I’m in Southeastern Oklahoma. Where abouts are you in east Texas? Just curious!

 

Nance

 

 

From: James Bentley [mailto:bentleyj1952@...] 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:29 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Introduction

 

My name is James Bentley.  I am from East Texas.

 

I am proud to be a member of this new list.  I expect that this list will become very busy.

 

James Bentley

 

 

HMM, I now understand why it was strange. LOL, in theory, if you reply to a message, in this case Gene, it should have went to this list. Oh well. Technology will always do weird things.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:00:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Yes just standard reply.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Just curious, but how do you reply? Do you not just do a standard reply?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:47:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

It looks like what probably happened is that I received at least one
message
from them and I unintentionally replied to that message instead of Gene's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


But, do you get messages from them?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:41:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Yeah not quite sure what happened there. I was tired last night when I
was
removing an account and trying to unsubscribe from yet another list. LOL
I
suppose it is even possible that I may have unintentionally resubscribed
myself without realizing it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Hi,
But, you sent it with a different address?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:23:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

LOL that is interesting. I thought I was unsubscribed from BlindTech, but
apparently not. I unintentionally sent my previous reply there instead.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


In Outlook Express and Windows Mail you can tab to the "from" field even
when you are viewing messages as HTML. It has been some time since I last
used Thunderbird, but I believe getting to the "from" field is not
difficult in that client either.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


I haven't done this to any extent for a long time, but it is my
recollection that it isn't necessarily easy or convenient to get to the
from line, depending on the e-mail program and how you are reading mail.
For example, it may be that when reading mail as html, you are restricted
to what is in the virtual buffer. It appears that in Windows Live mail,
the to line isn't displayed at all. If you shift tab, after many shift
tabs, you get to a button with the name of the sender.
If you open the context menu and start down arrowing, you get to a menu
option that allows you to begin a new message to the person.
I gave the property method because it applies to many programs but, of
course, it probably doesn't apply to all and if people want to send other
methods' that's fine.

Gene


From: Christina Stolze
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:20 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Carlos,
Thank you very much for that. I will try and do that. Have a great
day..
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Hi Christina,
You are certainly not breaking any rules. Just so you know, when
messages
are sent to the list you can see the originating address by opening the
message and viewing the
"from"
field. Although the specifics will vary depending on the client you
are
running, usually you can just press Enter on the message while it is
selected in the list and then Tab or Shift Tab to the
"from"
field. At that point, you should be able to copy the originating
address to
the clipboard so you can paste it into the
"to"
field and respond to the person directly.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christina Stolze" <christinastolze@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:36 AM
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Beth,
I am interested and I am sorry if I am breaking any rules but I didn't
and
or couldn't figure out how else to get in touch with you to let you
know
that I would like to join your list. I mean I saw all the ways to get
in
touch with you but I don't use any of those ways.
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:11 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Dear list,
Have you wanted to join a blind people or disabled people's list that
didn't include political affiliation such as the NFB, ACB, or any big
time disability groups that may or may not promote access to one thing
or another, or if you like openness in a group, then the group I just
created is for you. I searched the Groups.io archives and could not
find
a Blind Students or Careers group. I'd like to integrate both workers
and students in one group as the disabled are a small community, but
our
group will discuss all kinds of access issues such as classwork and
homework, social and club attendance, dorm life, apartment living,
etc..
We will also discuss what we can do as a community to improve access to
university materials, but there is one thing: no politics. We do not
affiliate or encourage affiliation with any particular disability
advocacy or consumer group. NABS is affiliated with the NFB, so we
won't
mess with that. But my group list is free, open, and yes, the rules
are
not tough and you will get to meet other people in a wider spectrum.
You
may discuss any training centers, even the NFB ones. But we can also
discuss technology for students and workers as well. So if you are a
student or job seeker as I and my current boyfriend are, come on down.
As a real tech enthusiast, I would love to see how many of us are into
tech support.
Also, one more rule about the group: be yourselves. Talk about all the
intimate stuff in private of course, but we can discuss big time issues
that affect all university students or workers such as workplace
bullying. That settles it. Anyone who knows someone interested should
write me.
Also, if you have any idea where the home page is for the group, it's
under groups.io I shared it on FB and Twitter for those who have both.
Thanks.
Beth

--
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Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

Just curious, but how do you reply? Do you not just do a standard reply?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:47:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

It looks like what probably happened is that I received at least one message
from them and I unintentionally replied to that message instead of Gene's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


But, do you get messages from them?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:41:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Yeah not quite sure what happened there. I was tired last night when I
was
removing an account and trying to unsubscribe from yet another list. LOL
I
suppose it is even possible that I may have unintentionally resubscribed
myself without realizing it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Hi,
But, you sent it with a different address?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:23:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

LOL that is interesting. I thought I was unsubscribed from BlindTech, but
apparently not. I unintentionally sent my previous reply there instead.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


In Outlook Express and Windows Mail you can tab to the "from" field even
when you are viewing messages as HTML. It has been some time since I last
used Thunderbird, but I believe getting to the "from" field is not
difficult in that client either.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


I haven't done this to any extent for a long time, but it is my
recollection that it isn't necessarily easy or convenient to get to the
from line, depending on the e-mail program and how you are reading mail.
For example, it may be that when reading mail as html, you are restricted
to what is in the virtual buffer. It appears that in Windows Live mail,
the to line isn't displayed at all. If you shift tab, after many shift
tabs, you get to a button with the name of the sender.
If you open the context menu and start down arrowing, you get to a menu
option that allows you to begin a new message to the person.
I gave the property method because it applies to many programs but, of
course, it probably doesn't apply to all and if people want to send other
methods' that's fine.

Gene


From: Christina Stolze
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:20 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Carlos,
Thank you very much for that. I will try and do that. Have a great
day..
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Hi Christina,
You are certainly not breaking any rules. Just so you know, when
messages
are sent to the list you can see the originating address by opening the
message and viewing the
"from"
field. Although the specifics will vary depending on the client you
are
running, usually you can just press Enter on the message while it is
selected in the list and then Tab or Shift Tab to the
"from"
field. At that point, you should be able to copy the originating
address to
the clipboard so you can paste it into the
"to"
field and respond to the person directly.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christina Stolze" <christinastolze@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:36 AM
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Beth,
I am interested and I am sorry if I am breaking any rules but I didn't
and
or couldn't figure out how else to get in touch with you to let you
know
that I would like to join your list. I mean I saw all the ways to get
in
touch with you but I don't use any of those ways.
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:11 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Dear list,
Have you wanted to join a blind people or disabled people's list that
didn't include political affiliation such as the NFB, ACB, or any big
time disability groups that may or may not promote access to one thing
or another, or if you like openness in a group, then the group I just
created is for you. I searched the Groups.io archives and could not
find
a Blind Students or Careers group. I'd like to integrate both workers
and students in one group as the disabled are a small community, but
our
group will discuss all kinds of access issues such as classwork and
homework, social and club attendance, dorm life, apartment living,
etc..
We will also discuss what we can do as a community to improve access to
university materials, but there is one thing: no politics. We do not
affiliate or encourage affiliation with any particular disability
advocacy or consumer group. NABS is affiliated with the NFB, so we
won't
mess with that. But my group list is free, open, and yes, the rules
are
not tough and you will get to meet other people in a wider spectrum.
You
may discuss any training centers, even the NFB ones. But we can also
discuss technology for students and workers as well. So if you are a
student or job seeker as I and my current boyfriend are, come on down.
As a real tech enthusiast, I would love to see how many of us are into
tech support.
Also, one more rule about the group: be yourselves. Talk about all the
intimate stuff in private of course, but we can discuss big time issues
that affect all university students or workers such as workplace
bullying. That settles it. Anyone who knows someone interested should
write me.
Also, if you have any idea where the home page is for the group, it's
under groups.io I shared it on FB and Twitter for those who have both.
Thanks.
Beth

--
Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

Hi Carlos

Agreed, I always find your messages useful and

good luck with the new group carlos.

Regards

Adrien

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:46 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Welcome to the latest members

at 86 now)

Thank you for the kind words Troy and welcome to the list.

----- Original Message -----
From: Troy Burnham <mailto:troyburnham34@gmail.com>

To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Welcome to the latest
members (we're at 86 now)

Hi All,

I just joined last night after reading the thread on
BlindTech mentioning that this list had been created and

very happy to be here, you are really a wealth of
information Carlos and in case you decide not to go back

BlindTech I joined this list to continue receiving your
expertise.

Troy



----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Welcome to the
latest members (we're at 86 now)

Hi Lynn,
Thanks and glad to have you here. Despite
differences of opinion between myself and the
owners/moderators of BlindTech, I wish them luck and

no ill will. If I don't resubscribe, it's in part because

think it was time for me to move on to something new and

that I've created this list I believe I should focus my
efforts here. I've never really subscribed to more than a
couple of mailing lists at a time anyway LOL just for the
sake of keeping the amount of incoming mail to a dull

----- Original Message -----
From: Lynn White
<mailto:lynnwhite360@radioforlife.info>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:50
PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Welcome to
the latest members (we're at 86 now)

Carlos,

I like your rules. They make total
sense.


On 8/30/2015 6:32 PM, Carlos wrote:


As the subject says, thanks
to everyone who has subscribed so far and I will do my

to make this work. We already have quite a few
knowledgeable members who have signed on. I would like to
believe that I'm fairly open minded so hopefully this will
be reflected in how the list is managed. Don't hesitate

share your thoughts and opinions LOL or to let me know

I'm being an idiot. There are really only a few basic
rules.


1. Discussions , questions,
and articles about all types of technology are allowed.

2. Discussion of illegal
activities is not allowed. If you are not sure if a
particular subject qualifies as illegal, feel free to ask

in a private message.

3. Try to be civilized.

4. Too many rules become
restrictive and cramp my style so just use common sense.

Regards,
Carlos

Hi,
Is mine like the old school method? Here's what I do. Do a reply. From the original message, I copy the address. Then, clear the from field, and paste in the clipboard. True, with things like thunderbird, which only show the name, this will be a miserable failure, but things like note takers, outlook, I believe, and outlook express should allow you to do this.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:34:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

It is always good to have different methods available.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


I don't know if this has changed but my recollection is that if you are using window-eyes, you can't shift tab to the to line if you are reading mail as html. Window-eyes users may want to see if that is the case. it is in part because of that possibility that I gave the method I did.

Gene
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:20 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


In Outlook Express and Windows Mail you can tab to the "from" field even when you are viewing messages as HTML. It has been some time since I last used Thunderbird, but I believe getting to the "from" field is not difficult in that client either.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


I haven't done this to any extent for a long time, but it is my recollection that it isn't necessarily easy or convenient to get to the from line, depending on the e-mail program and how you are reading mail. For example, it may be that when reading mail as html, you are restricted to what is in the virtual buffer. It appears that in Windows Live mail, the to line isn't displayed at all. If you shift tab, after many shift tabs, you get to a button with the name of the sender.
If you open the context menu and start down arrowing, you get to a menu option that allows you to begin a new message to the person.
I gave the property method because it applies to many programs but, of course, it probably doesn't apply to all and if people want to send other methods' that's fine.

Gene


From: Christina Stolze
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:20 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Carlos,
Thank you very much for that. I will try and do that. Have a great day..
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Hi Christina,
You are certainly not breaking any rules. Just so you know, when messages
are sent to the list you can see the originating address by opening the
message and viewing the
"from"
field. Although the specifics will vary depending on the client you are
running, usually you can just press Enter on the message while it is
selected in the list and then Tab or Shift Tab to the
"from"
field. At that point, you should be able to copy the originating address to
the clipboard so you can paste it into the
"to"
field and respond to the person directly.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christina Stolze" <christinastolze@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:36 AM
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Beth,
I am interested and I am sorry if I am breaking any rules but I didn't and
or couldn't figure out how else to get in touch with you to let you know
that I would like to join your list. I mean I saw all the ways to get in
touch with you but I don't use any of those ways.
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:11 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Dear list,
Have you wanted to join a blind people or disabled people's list that
didn't include political affiliation such as the NFB, ACB, or any big
time disability groups that may or may not promote access to one thing
or another, or if you like openness in a group, then the group I just
created is for you. I searched the Groups.io archives and could not find
a Blind Students or Careers group. I'd like to integrate both workers
and students in one group as the disabled are a small community, but our
group will discuss all kinds of access issues such as classwork and
homework, social and club attendance, dorm life, apartment living, etc..
We will also discuss what we can do as a community to improve access to
university materials, but there is one thing: no politics. We do not
affiliate or encourage affiliation with any particular disability
advocacy or consumer group. NABS is affiliated with the NFB, so we won't
mess with that. But my group list is free, open, and yes, the rules are
not tough and you will get to meet other people in a wider spectrum. You
may discuss any training centers, even the NFB ones. But we can also
discuss technology for students and workers as well. So if you are a
student or job seeker as I and my current boyfriend are, come on down.
As a real tech enthusiast, I would love to see how many of us are into
tech support.
Also, one more rule about the group: be yourselves. Talk about all the
intimate stuff in private of course, but we can discuss big time issues
that affect all university students or workers such as workplace
bullying. That settles it. Anyone who knows someone interested should
write me.
Also, if you have any idea where the home page is for the group, it's
under groups.io I shared it on FB and Twitter for those who have both.
Thanks.
Beth

--
Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:44 AM, James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...> wrote:

Hey there Nance,

 

I’m from the oldest town in Texas. Nacogdoches.  Just so your screenreader will say that right.  It should sound like Nacodoechus.

I’ll bet we are only about 150 miles from each other as the crow flies.

 

James

 

 

From: N K Shackelford

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:30 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Introduction

 

Hi, James, I’m in Southeastern Oklahoma. Where abouts are you in east Texas? Just curious!

 

Nance

 

 

From: James Bentley [mailto:bentleyj1952@...] 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:29 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Introduction

 

My name is James Bentley.  I am from East Texas.

 

I am proud to be a member of this new list.  I expect that this list will become very busy.

 

James Bentley

 

But, do you get messages from them?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:41:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Yeah not quite sure what happened there. I was tired last night when I was
removing an account and trying to unsubscribe from yet another list. LOL I
suppose it is even possible that I may have unintentionally resubscribed
myself without realizing it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Hi,
But, you sent it with a different address?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:23:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

LOL that is interesting. I thought I was unsubscribed from BlindTech, but
apparently not. I unintentionally sent my previous reply there instead.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


In Outlook Express and Windows Mail you can tab to the "from" field even
when you are viewing messages as HTML. It has been some time since I last
used Thunderbird, but I believe getting to the "from" field is not
difficult in that client either.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


I haven't done this to any extent for a long time, but it is my
recollection that it isn't necessarily easy or convenient to get to the
from line, depending on the e-mail program and how you are reading mail.
For example, it may be that when reading mail as html, you are restricted
to what is in the virtual buffer. It appears that in Windows Live mail,
the to line isn't displayed at all. If you shift tab, after many shift
tabs, you get to a button with the name of the sender.
If you open the context menu and start down arrowing, you get to a menu
option that allows you to begin a new message to the person.
I gave the property method because it applies to many programs but, of
course, it probably doesn't apply to all and if people want to send other
methods' that's fine.

Gene


From: Christina Stolze
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:20 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Carlos,
Thank you very much for that. I will try and do that. Have a great
day..
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Hi Christina,
You are certainly not breaking any rules. Just so you know, when
messages
are sent to the list you can see the originating address by opening the
message and viewing the
"from"
field. Although the specifics will vary depending on the client you
are
running, usually you can just press Enter on the message while it is
selected in the list and then Tab or Shift Tab to the
"from"
field. At that point, you should be able to copy the originating
address to
the clipboard so you can paste it into the
"to"
field and respond to the person directly.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christina Stolze" <christinastolze@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:36 AM
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Beth,
I am interested and I am sorry if I am breaking any rules but I didn't
and
or couldn't figure out how else to get in touch with you to let you
know
that I would like to join your list. I mean I saw all the ways to get
in
touch with you but I don't use any of those ways.
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:11 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Dear list,
Have you wanted to join a blind people or disabled people's list that
didn't include political affiliation such as the NFB, ACB, or any big
time disability groups that may or may not promote access to one thing
or another, or if you like openness in a group, then the group I just
created is for you. I searched the Groups.io archives and could not
find
a Blind Students or Careers group. I'd like to integrate both workers
and students in one group as the disabled are a small community, but
our
group will discuss all kinds of access issues such as classwork and
homework, social and club attendance, dorm life, apartment living,
etc..
We will also discuss what we can do as a community to improve access to
university materials, but there is one thing: no politics. We do not
affiliate or encourage affiliation with any particular disability
advocacy or consumer group. NABS is affiliated with the NFB, so we
won't
mess with that. But my group list is free, open, and yes, the rules
are
not tough and you will get to meet other people in a wider spectrum.
You
may discuss any training centers, even the NFB ones. But we can also
discuss technology for students and workers as well. So if you are a
student or job seeker as I and my current boyfriend are, come on down.
As a real tech enthusiast, I would love to see how many of us are into
tech support.
Also, one more rule about the group: be yourselves. Talk about all the
intimate stuff in private of course, but we can discuss big time issues
that affect all university students or workers such as workplace
bullying. That settles it. Anyone who knows someone interested should
write me.
Also, if you have any idea where the home page is for the group, it's
under groups.io I shared it on FB and Twitter for those who have both.
Thanks.
Beth

--
Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Awe, so nice to hear your voice again.  Has any one ever told you that you sound a lot like Jaws.

 

But seriously, I am going to try the reset right now.

 

Thanks for your assistance,

 

James

 

 

 

From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:33 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

 

Resetting is basically like reinstalling Windows.  Only software which may have been included by the manufacturer is restored.  All settings and other applications will be removed.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

 

Hi Group,

 

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10.  So I will try for the condensed version.

 

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible.  Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self.  So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect. 

 

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed.  Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

 

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

 

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates.  And, I did that.  So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop. 

 

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before.  It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

 

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong.  And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

 

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset.  I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time.  I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

 

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer.  I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad.  I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

 

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended  action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers.  This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

 

Now here’s my point.  I want one of two things.  Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time.  Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

 

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death,  is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

 

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

 

James

 

Hi Lynn,

No worries, I did not take it as criticism.  I know that there are other members like Gene for example who were also concerned about creating yet another list and causing fragmentation/confusion.  And while I agree with and share some of those concerns, there is a limit to what you can do when the differences in opinion about how a list should be managed cannot be easily reconciled.

----- Original Message -----

From: Lynn White

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 7:22 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Welcome to the latest members (we're at 86 now)

Hey Carlos,

Just so you know, when I had advised not to create a new list, I was not being critical.  Was just trying to give them a chance to right the ship. 

But, this is a fine list and I would see no reason for either list to close down.  Even if I ever owned that list again, I would glad be here as well.

No worries you guys.  I have no plans to own that list again.  I'm loving my retirement from a nine to five job too much.

On 8/31/2015 2:37 AM, Carlos wrote:

Hi Lynn,

Thanks and glad to have you here.  Despite differences of opinion between myself and the owners/moderators of BlindTech, I wish them luck and harbor no ill will.  If I don't resubscribe, it's in part because I think it was time for me to move on to something new and now that I've created this list I believe I should focus my efforts here.  I've never really subscribed to more than a couple of mailing lists at a time anyway LOL just for the sake of keeping the amount of incoming mail to a dull roar.

----- Original Message -----

From: Lynn White

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:50 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Welcome to the latest members (we're at 86 now)

Carlos,

I like your rules.  They make total sense.

On 8/30/2015 6:32 PM, Carlos wrote:

As the subject says, thanks to everyone who has subscribed so far and I will do my best to make this work.  We already have quite a few knowledgeable members who have signed on.  I would like to believe that I'm fairly open minded so hopefully this will be reflected in how the list is managed.  Don't hesitate to share your thoughts and opinions LOL or to let me know when I'm being an idiot.  There are really only a few basic rules.

 

1. Discussions , questions, and articles about all types of technology are allowed.

 

2. Discussion of illegal activities is not allowed.  If you are not sure if a particular subject qualifies as illegal, feel free to ask me in a private message.

 

3. Try to be civilized.

 

4. Too many rules become restrictive and cramp my style so just use common sense.

 

Regards,

Carlos

Hi,
But, you sent it with a different address?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:23:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

LOL that is interesting. I thought I was unsubscribed from BlindTech, but apparently not. I unintentionally sent my previous reply there instead.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


In Outlook Express and Windows Mail you can tab to the "from" field even when you are viewing messages as HTML. It has been some time since I last used Thunderbird, but I believe getting to the "from" field is not difficult in that client either.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


I haven't done this to any extent for a long time, but it is my recollection that it isn't necessarily easy or convenient to get to the from line, depending on the e-mail program and how you are reading mail. For example, it may be that when reading mail as html, you are restricted to what is in the virtual buffer. It appears that in Windows Live mail, the to line isn't displayed at all. If you shift tab, after many shift tabs, you get to a button with the name of the sender.
If you open the context menu and start down arrowing, you get to a menu option that allows you to begin a new message to the person.
I gave the property method because it applies to many programs but, of course, it probably doesn't apply to all and if people want to send other methods' that's fine.

Gene


From: Christina Stolze
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:20 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Carlos,
Thank you very much for that. I will try and do that. Have a great day..
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Hi Christina,
You are certainly not breaking any rules. Just so you know, when messages
are sent to the list you can see the originating address by opening the
message and viewing the
"from"
field. Although the specifics will vary depending on the client you are
running, usually you can just press Enter on the message while it is
selected in the list and then Tab or Shift Tab to the
"from"
field. At that point, you should be able to copy the originating address to
the clipboard so you can paste it into the
"to"
field and respond to the person directly.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christina Stolze" <christinastolze@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:36 AM
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] For Those Interested


Beth,
I am interested and I am sorry if I am breaking any rules but I didn't and
or couldn't figure out how else to get in touch with you to let you know
that I would like to join your list. I mean I saw all the ways to get in
touch with you but I don't use any of those ways.
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:11 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] For Those Interested

Dear list,
Have you wanted to join a blind people or disabled people's list that
didn't include political affiliation such as the NFB, ACB, or any big
time disability groups that may or may not promote access to one thing
or another, or if you like openness in a group, then the group I just
created is for you. I searched the Groups.io archives and could not find
a Blind Students or Careers group. I'd like to integrate both workers
and students in one group as the disabled are a small community, but our
group will discuss all kinds of access issues such as classwork and
homework, social and club attendance, dorm life, apartment living, etc..
We will also discuss what we can do as a community to improve access to
university materials, but there is one thing: no politics. We do not
affiliate or encourage affiliation with any particular disability
advocacy or consumer group. NABS is affiliated with the NFB, so we won't
mess with that. But my group list is free, open, and yes, the rules are
not tough and you will get to meet other people in a wider spectrum. You
may discuss any training centers, even the NFB ones. But we can also
discuss technology for students and workers as well. So if you are a
student or job seeker as I and my current boyfriend are, come on down.
As a real tech enthusiast, I would love to see how many of us are into
tech support.
Also, one more rule about the group: be yourselves. Talk about all the
intimate stuff in private of course, but we can discuss big time issues
that affect all university students or workers such as workplace
bullying. That settles it. Anyone who knows someone interested should
write me.
Also, if you have any idea where the home page is for the group, it's
under groups.io I shared it on FB and Twitter for those who have both.
Thanks.
Beth

--
Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.