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Re: needing link for the accessible version of outlook express

Carlos
 

There really isn't any new version of Outlook Express and hasn't been in years.  Perhaps you are thinking of the hack that was modified to allow Outlook Express to work on newer versions of Windows which is not technically a new version.  If so, it is accessible with JAWS.  However, JAWS 17 has removed support for the Outlook Express scripts so some functionality is no longer available if you are running that version of JAWS.  In either case, I have stopped recommending Outlook Express in general since it can be flakey and cause users problems like corruption of the mailbox files.  You would be better off and safer using a different client such as Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail, Outlook, and so on.

----- Original Message -----
From: joanne
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:18 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] needing link for the accessible version of outlook express

We have windows 7 and were wanting the outlook express program, but I remember discussion on the newest version not being accessible with jaws.  What is the version and link you recommend we use?
 
Thank you.
 
Joanne
 


Re: is facebook messenger accessible with the newer jaws versions

Michael Mote
 

Hi there!  These folks could be using the Messenger app on their phone.  I do use it, and it works reasonably well. 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 11:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] is facebook messenger accessible with the newer jaws versions

 

I had heard facebook messenger could not be used with jaws so I just do private messages by going to the person's name and then to "send message".  But I can tell some people are replying somehow in messenger and I have also had a couple invitations to join them on messenger.  The reason I know they're using it to reply to me is that these replies don't show up in my emails like some of my other messages.  I fortunately looked online and saw them, but are we able to fully use messenger now?

 

By the way, I am using windows 7 and I have the last 3 versions of jaws.

 

Joanne

 


needing link for the accessible version of outlook express

joanne
 

We have windows 7 and were wanting the outlook express program, but I remember discussion on the newest version not being accessible with jaws.  What is the version and link you recommend we use?
 
Thank you.
 
Joanne
 


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Re: iPhone Voiceover says incoming call during outgoing call

George Basioli <gbmagoo@...>
 

It was reported in the beta several times

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: October 4, 2016 21:41
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] iPhone Voiceover says incoming call during outgoing call

a weird little bug for sure

On 10/4/16, Barb O'Connor <broconnor1972@...> wrote:
It happens all the time.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2016, at 8:11 PM, Peter Spitz <peter.a.spitz@...> wrote:

Is anyone else with an iPhone and the latest update experiencing
this? It will say “Incoming call” and the person I am calling
instead of “Outgoing Call”.

Thanks,

Peter

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Re: iPhone Voiceover says incoming call during outgoing call

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Welcome to ios 10. it also happens with facetime on iPads.



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Lenron
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 12:40 AM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] iPhone Voiceover says incoming call during outgoing call

a weird little bug for sure

On 10/4/16, Barb O'Connor <broconnor1972@...> wrote:
It happens all the time.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2016, at 8:11 PM, Peter Spitz <peter.a.spitz@...> wrote:

Is anyone else with an iPhone and the latest update experiencing this? It
will say “Incoming call” and the person I am calling instead of “Outgoing
Call”.

Thanks,

Peter


Re: clearing contents of a laptop

Carlos
 

This is not something which can be easily done quickly with earlier versions of Windows, but with Windows 10 you can just use the Reset option.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 1:28 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] clearing contents of a laptop

Hi,

 

How can I quickly wipe a laptop as if to make it look like I just purchased it? The os in question is windows 10. No need to back anything up, just wipe it of all my crap that is on there.

 

Thanks.


clearing contents of a laptop

Kimsan
 

Hi,

 

How can I quickly wipe a laptop as if to make it look like I just purchased it? The os in question is windows 10. No need to back anything up, just wipe it of all my crap that is on there.

 

Thanks.


Re: iPhone Voiceover says incoming call during outgoing call

Lenron
 

a weird little bug for sure

On 10/4/16, Barb O'Connor <broconnor1972@...> wrote:
It happens all the time.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2016, at 8:11 PM, Peter Spitz <peter.a.spitz@...> wrote:

Is anyone else with an iPhone and the latest update experiencing this? It
will say “Incoming call” and the person I am calling instead of “Outgoing
Call”.

Thanks,

Peter
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is facebook messenger accessible with the newer jaws versions

joanne
 

I had heard facebook messenger could not be used with jaws so I just do private messages by going to the person's name and then to "send message".  But I can tell some people are replying somehow in messenger and I have also had a couple invitations to join them on messenger.  The reason I know they're using it to reply to me is that these replies don't show up in my emails like some of my other messages.  I fortunately looked online and saw them, but are we able to fully use messenger now?
 
By the way, I am using windows 7 and I have the last 3 versions of jaws.
 
Joanne
 


Re: Outdated but cool tech

Carlos
 


I finally received this thing yesterday and I have a few comments/observations.
 
First, performance seems fine for basic tasks.  I.E. Browsing, checking mail, reading documents, listening to music, and so on.  It is running the latest version of NVDA and JAWS 15 with no problems or lag in performance as far as I can tell.  I did optimize some Windows settings such as disabling all visual effects and a few unnecessary services, but even before that performance was acceptable.  I haven't really tried to push it's limits since it is not a very powerful machine and the above activities were mostly the originally intended use.  Of course, tablets these days with modern hardware are more capable, but I'm still somewhat surprised these devices never really caught on.  The UMPC was way ahead of it's time.  A tablet sized device running Windows long before the conventional tablet was even on the market.  The first true UMPC running Windows was released by Samsung back in 2006.  Even modern tablets running Windows are relatively recent by comparison.  If a UMPC were produced with modern hardware, I can't imagine why even sighted users wouldn't prefer the design over a typical tablet.  Most UMPCs included a touch screen.  And while I'm sure tablet users have generally adapted to typing on a virtual keyboard, I'm equally sure that most would prefer a physical keyboard given the choice.  Just look at how many people, blind or sighted, wind up buying bluetooth keyboards for their phones or tablets.  This particular model allows you to turn the display completely around and lie it down flat on the keyboard.  Not that all UMPCS had this capability, but in this configuration, there would be almost no difference between a UMPC and a modern tablet except for the thickness.  The keyboard is surprisingly usable and functional for it's size.  The keys are small, but large enough to allow for casual typing.  However, as with most smaller keyboards there is always some sacrifice.  It has most keys, but no dedicated F7 through F12, Home, End, Page Up/Down, CapsLock, or Insert.  All of these keys can be simulated with an Fn key combination.  Although the lack of a dedicated CapsLock or Insert key is particularly vexing since most screen readers use one of these as a modifier key.  Fortunately, there are two Shift keys so I was able to get around this by remapping the right Shift key to CapsLock.  Honestly, the biggest disappointment was the size.  Don't get me wrong, this thing is small.  The problem is that while the width is 6.7 inches, the depth is 6.1 inches which means unless you have very large pockets, it is not quite small enough to qualify as pocket sized/pocketable.  There are other smaller UMPC models so this is partially my fault for not paying closer attention to the dimensions before purchasing.  So in conclusion, while the Fujitsu LifeBook U820 is over all satisfactory in terms of functionality and performance, my search for a pocketable UMPC will probably continue as finances allow.  The problem is that as I have indicated in previous discussions, UMPCs are no longer being produced so I am mostly restricted to buying used on eBay.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outdated but cool tech

Probably about the same time period as the netbook craze.  Somewhere from about 2007 to 2011.  There were a few different companies producing them.  The first and probably most famous, were the OQO models manufactured by the obscure self-titled company.  Fujitsu produced a couple of models in the LifeBook series and Sony had several models in their VAIO UX series.  A few other obscure companies such as Viliv also produced UMPCs.  Even Panasonic was on the bandwagon with their ToughBook model.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outdated but cool tech

I never heard of such an animal, interesting to say the least. Is this something that was out prior to the net book craze of a few years ago. I recall everybody being told that they weren’t very powerful and not to expect a lot out of them but for the most part that I heard people ignored the warning and tried to overload them with software and complained when they didn’t work properly.
 
This sounds like something that might be good for note taking by a college student to carry around between classes. Use it in good health.
From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 7:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Outdated but cool tech
 
Today I wasted $205 on a UMPC AKA Ultra Mobile PC.  I've raved about these before, but for those who don't already know or haven't heard my rant, picture a 6 inch laptop with a keyboard, display, and running Windows 7.  It's not the most powerful machine and they stopped making them about 6 or 7 years ago, but I've always wanted a PC with a keyboard small enough to fit in your pocket.  It's too bad UMPCs just never caught on.  If they had, not only would modern versions be much more powerful, but I suspect they would have been quite popular with the blind community.  Most of them are smaller than tablets and usually have a touch screen as well.  The combination of a keyboard and a touch screen in something slightly smaller than a tablet with modern hardware could have been the ultimate in mobile computing for both the blind and sighted.  The specs are below for anyone who cares.
 
Fujitsu LifeBook U820 Mini-Notebook Specs
 
Part Number: FPCM21621  
 
Processor / Chipset
 
CPU
Intel Atom Z530 / 1.6 GHz
 
Cache
L2 - 512 KB
 
Data Bus Speed
533 MHz
 
Cache Memory
 
Type
L2 cache
 
Installed Size
512 KB
 
RAM
 
Memory Speed
533 MHz
 
Configuration Features
1 x 1 GB
 
Technology
DDR2 SDRAM
 
Installed Size
1 GB
 
Display
 
Resolution
1280 x 800 ( WXGA )
 
Widescreen Display
Yes
 
Monitor Features
Crystal View
 
Diagonal Size (metric)
14.2 cm
 
Display Resolution Abbreviation
WXGA
 
Hard Drive
 
Spindle Speed
4200 rpm
 
Type
HDD
 
Capacity
60 GB
 
Audio & Video
 
Total Available Graphics Memory
224 MB
 
Integrated Webcam
Yes
 
Resolution (MP)
1.3 Megapixel
 
Sound
Microphone
 
Audio Codec
Realtek ALC269
 
Input
 
Type
keyboard,                                                                              touch-screen
 
Communications
 
Wireless Protocol
802.11a/b/g/n (draft),                                                                              Bluetooth 2.1
 
Wireless Controller
Atheros XSPAN
 
Wired Protocol
10/100 Ethernet
 
GPS
 
Battery
 
Cells
4-cell
 
Capacity
5800 mAh
 
Card Reader
 
Type
card reader
 
Supported Flash Memory
CompactFlash,                                                                              SD Memory Card
 
AC Adapter
 
Input
AC 120/230 V
 
Connections & Expansion
 
Interfaces
USB 2.0
Microphone input
Headphone/microphone combo jack
Dock

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Re: iPhone Voiceover says incoming call during outgoing call

Barb O'Connor
 

It happens all the time.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2016, at 8:11 PM, Peter Spitz <peter.a.spitz@...> wrote:

Is anyone else with an iPhone and the latest update experiencing this?  It will say “Incoming call” and the person I am calling instead of “Outgoing Call”.

 

Thanks,

 

Peter


iPhone Voiceover says incoming call during outgoing call

Peter Spitz
 

Is anyone else with an iPhone and the latest update experiencing this?  It will say “Incoming call” and the person I am calling instead of “Outgoing Call”.

 

Thanks,

 

Peter


Re: food for thought

Veronica Kirk
 

About eight years ago.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 1:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

 

Because I think you've told this before.Oh good, about how long ago was that? As I don't thank I remember.

 

On Oct 3, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:

 

When my husband and I lived in Houston The T-mobile signal was very good.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 12:22 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

 

Well I will say, the AT&T signal, was a little on the weak side Indy Area of Seabrook and surrounding towns. While it was stronger up close to Cypress in Tomball. I shall be checking whenever I go to Houston the next time about the T-Mobile signal.

 

On Oct 2, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:

 

These cell phone issues are really weird, because as I mentioned in a previous post many of my friends using cell phones have to be in a certain part of their house so that I can understand them, and one such person lives in Houston and Has AT&T.  He does not lose connection, but he sounds very muffled.  My land line is clear as a bell and I never lose connection with anyone.  However, I plan to get a cell phone soon, just so my family knows where I am when we are traveling, but I shall try to always keep my land line, but probably not in a bundle.

-----Original Message-----
From: 
main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 1:25 PM
To: 
main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Same with my daughter-in-law, step daughter and sister - all of a sudden, whomever I'm talking to is just gone!

However, I have two cousins in Houston - both with AT&T, clear as a bell, can talk for over an hour, no drop. 

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 2:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

I'm not talking about cellphones from the early 2000s.  I also don't have an iPhone, but I'm talking about cellphones today.  There is a definite difference between the sound of a call on a cellphone, and the sound of a call on a regular phone.  There are little bits of sound that is lost.  But speaking of iPhones as you did, my cousin doesn't have a landline anymore; she has an iPhone, and she will call me, and it will suddenly disconnect us and she will have to call me back. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lenron
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 12:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Cellphones are pretty good in most places this aint the early 2000's or late 90's where you had to stress about so many drop calls. I don't think the average person is trying to listen in to calls you make from your IPhone about business. They are prety secure anyways. Plus I would hate having the extra cost for a phone I would never really use.
So bye bye to standard home phone service. Like someone said it's mostly done over the net anyways. Also most cell providers now have hd calling and that sounds even better than old land liines.

On 10/1/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:


I turn on Call Forwarding, if I want to, and there are no dropped 
calls, when I'm on it at home.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 11:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Yeah but it still better clarity then a cell phone connection. Oh can 
I also mention that I Love the fact that that if I don't want to I 
don't have to give out my cell phone number. And I don't have to worry 
about on transferring it from my cell phone like you used to have to 
do to a traditional landline. With Time Warner cable, if I happen to 
go out and about, I can turn on something called answer anywhere and 
it will ring here at my home and on my cell phone if I were to get a 
call.

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On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:28 PM, Carlos
<carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...> >
wrote:

Although many cable providers these days use digital/VoIP phone 
systems, not true landlines.

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Veronica, me too. But I also have mine in a bundle pack.

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On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:19 PM,
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> > wrote:

And I am one of those lovers of land
lines and I don't have it because of bundling.  I just like the 
clarity when compared to a cell phone.

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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for
thought

I think the speed that's shown is
pretty realistic. If you think about it yes landlines still exist but 
not very many have them anymore and if they do they are just there 
because with most cable companies it's cheeper to have the bundle

On 9/28/16, TerriLynne Pomeroy
<tl1@... <mailto:tl1@...> > wrote:


I feel pretty sure that this
isn't going to happen as quickly as the message implies. It would be 
interesting to have a more, in my opinion, time realistic version.



One thing I can think of is
a discussion I saw a few years ago on
loving land lines, and
if/when the phone companies would stop providing them.
Well,
for the lovers of land
lines, so far, so good.



I do think that the article
is something to think about, though, just not with the speed 
indicated.



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Re: food for thought

Peter Spitz
 

I have an iPhone 5C but I had to buy it up fron from Cricket, they don't
have a monthly purchase plan.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 5:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Oh, Cricket is $35 a month? What kind of phone do you have?
I have a sighted friend that really likes Cricket. Do you get it at
Wal-Mart?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Spitz
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

I have Cricket with unlimited everything for $35 a month.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

That is true, but I have over a year with Verizon. Time will tell. Also, I
can check with Laz, and see if I can get my number and my contacts
transferred to PagePlus; their deal is nearly as good, costwise, as
T-Mobile's.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 2:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Well, I say that if you're happy with your Revere you might want to stay
with Verizon Caroline. Because I don't think that that phone will work on
T-Mobile.

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On Oct 3, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...
<mailto:4carolyna@...>
wrote:
That is encouraging, since T-Mobile is one I would like to
give consideration to when my Verizon contract runs out,
which will be a while.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

As I am a brand-new customer to T-Mobile, I'll say this much
here in Texas I have had one area that I've received a
dropped call. And what area were I've had no service
whatsoever. But has to be expected with the town being so
far out in the country. It is awful Dr. gravelly road. Other
than that, I can listen to music without buffering, I can
talk on calls without dropping and when the signal is weak,
I have access to Wi-Fi calling if I needed. Assuming I can
find a unsecure network to join or find what password.

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On Oct 1, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Carolyn Arnold
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wrote:



That is why I did not get T-Mobile. I really liked
their
plans, but I heard too much about their drop offs.
Everyone
says that here, Verizon has the best coverage, which
is what
I have now, but my daughter-in-law does drop. I
don't guess
I use mine enough to drop. My cousin has a Galaxy
and AT&T
in Houston, and I can say and have told her, that
she sounds
like she is calling from one of the good old
landline
phones, not a cordless one either, but a phone with
real
substance.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 7:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Here in my bush, TMobile has a horrid case with call
drops!
I've been in Walmart with a TMobile customer and the
phone
HAS NO SIGNALS! The individual waits till we get
out of the
store before being able to make or receive a call.
If the
call is urgent, my phone is used. I have service on
AT&T
through an MVNO.

When friends and I drive up the mountains, we barely
reach
6,900 feet and TMobile calls drop off. Not the same
case
with my phone. When I go on a cruise with my
troops, I can
still receive and make calls 500 nautical miles away
from
U.S. territorial waters! I'll never be a customer
of
TMobile even if the service costs 5 cents a month!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Latest Jaws 18 Beta Download Links & What's New

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,
 
Below are the direct download links for the latest Jaws 18 Beta version, J18.0.1811 (Public Beta 2), & what's new in this update.
 
32 Bit:
 
 
64 Bit:
 
 
Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.1811 (Public Beta 2)
 
The following is a list of improvements made between the first Public Beta and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer reported enhancements are included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.
 
Lower the Audio from Other Programs While JAWS is Speaking
 
In Windows 8 and later, you can now specify that the volume of audio from other programs be lowered while JAWS is speaking using the Eloquence or Vocalizer
Expressive synthesizers as well as any SAPI5 synthesizer. This is commonly known as audio ducking. For example, if you are listening to music or playing
a video and JAWS begins talking, the volume of the music or video will be slightly lowered so you can comfortably hear JAWS and then raised back to its
current level when JAWS stops talking.
 
For JAWS users with a braille display, you can also choose to mute JAWS speech (INSERT+SPACEBAR, S) while listening to audio from other programs and still
use JAWS with braille output only, without the audio from the other programs being reduced.
 
By default, audio remains at the same volume as JAWS speech. To change this, there are two ways. The easiest way is to open the Startup Wizard from the
JAWS Help menu and select the Lower the volume of other programs while JAWS is speaking checkbox located on the Speech Settings page.
 
Alternatively, you can change this option through Settings Center by doing the following:
 
list of 5 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings.
3. In the Search edit box, type "volume" without the quotes.
4. Press DOWN ARROW to move to "Lower the volume of other programs while JAWS is speaking" in the filtered search results in the tree view.
5. Press SPACEBAR to toggle this option.
list end
 
More Dynamic Braille Auto Advance Mode
 
Auto Advance Mode is equivalent to the Say All command for braille readers and has been available in JAWS for many years. After performing the appropriate
command on your braille display (left and right selector buttons on the Focus series displays), the braille display is automatically panned at a specific
speed through an entire document, automatically skipping over blank segments and blank lines. In prior versions, users could configure how long JAWS paused
before automatically panning the display. Once configured, the display would pan at the same speed regardless of how much information was on the display,
so most users would set the timer for optimal reading when the display was full. However, if the display panned to a short line containing only a few words
with the remaining cells being empty, which could occur more frequently with larger displays such as those with 40 or 80 cells, this could be inconvenient
as the user would have to wait for the display to advance which could cause an interruption with reading.
 
To improve the reading experience when using Auto Advance Mode, JAWS now pans faster or slower depending on the length of the current braille line. The
display will pan faster for short lines so you can instantly move to the next segment without having to wait once you have finished reading, but will pan
slower for longer lines up to a maximum length of time which is used when the display is full. This maximum value can be configured through Settings Center
using the new Auto Advance Maximum Interval option. By default, it is set to 5000 milliseconds, or five seconds.
 
For example, if you have an 80 cell display and the current braille line takes up the majority of the display, JAWS will pan the display after five seconds.
If the display pans to a short line containing only a few words and the remaining cells are blank, JAWS will pan the display within a couple seconds.
 
Improved Performance when Using JAWS and ZoomText Together
 
JAWS 18 introduces greatly improved interoperability with the soon to be released ZoomText 11. Users of both these industry leading products will experience
more seemless operation when running JAWS 18 and ZoomText 11 together regardless of the order in which they are installed as well as which product is started
first.
 
When JAWS 18 and ZoomText 11 are running together, users should note the following:
 
list of 4 items
• JAWS handles all speech functions except for ZoomText's App Reader feature and speech directly from ZoomText , such as ZoomText scripts.
• All ZoomText magnification features will continue to work as expected. In addition, ZoomText will now visually highlight and track during a JAWS Say
All, or when navigating using the Virtual Cursor.
• If there is a keystroke conflict, the JAWS keystroke is used instead. Otherwise, JAWS and ZoomText keystrokes will continue to work as expected.
• ZoomText handles all touch related functions.
list end
 
Since JAWS takes over all speech functions when running with ZoomText, this also includes mouse echo. If you want the mouse to echo as it is moved, you
will need to enable mouse echo in JAWS as it is off by default. The easiest way is to press the layered keystroke, INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, O. However, this
is only temporary and will revert back to off if JAWS is restarted. If you intend on using mouse echo all the time, you can permanently enable it by doing
the following:
 
list of 3 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings.
3. From the tree view, expand the Mouse Echo group and press SPACEBAR on Enable Mouse Echo.
list end
 
Touch Improvements
list of 9 items
• JAWS touch gestures are now included in the Command Search feature (INSERT+SPACEBAR, J). If you search for a command that can be performed using a keystgroke
or a gesture, both the keystroke and gesture are displayed in the search results. You can also search for gesture-specific commands, such as toggling the
Touch Keyboard, or cycling through Touch Navigation, Text Reading, or Speech Settings gesture modes. The JAWS Command Search only includes gestures if
JAWS detects that it is running on a touch screen enabled device.
• Addressed issues with using gestures to switch to an application in the task switching window that displays when you swipe from the left edge of the
screen. When the task switcher opens, flick left or right through the list of running applications and when you locate the one you want, double tap it
to move focus in to that app.
• Improved the experience when using touch gestures to log into Windows. If the Login screen is active and focus is on the Password edit field, performing
a double tap will immediately open the touch keyboard allowing you to enter your password. Otherwise, flick right or explore until you locate the Password
edit field and then double tap to set focus and open the touch keyboard.
• JAWS no longer repeats the password label field multiple times on the Windows 10 Login screen.
• In response to user feedback, the default typing mode for the touch keyboard is now Touch Typing, which means a key is typed as soon as the finger is
lifted from the keyboard button, or you perform a split tap.
• If the gesture mode is set to Text Reading, you can now perform a four-finger swipe down to begin a Say All in the currently open document, similar to
pressing INSERT+DOWN ARROW on the keyboard. To stop reading, tap anywhere on the screen.
• In response to customer requests, added a new option to the Touch Cursor group in Quick Settings that allows you to choose the element type that is navigated
to when using the flick up and flick down gestures. The available choices are Regions (selected by default), Headings, List Items, Buttons, Links, Groups,
and Form Controls. Note that not all apps support these navigation types, they are typically available in modern apps and web applications.
• If you perform a JAWS touch gesture and then do a five-finger rotate to turn off all JAWS gestures, resolved an issue where Windows-specific gestures
would no longer work until you restarted JAWS.
• Addressed an issue where the Minimize, Maximize, and Close buttons in the title bar of an application were not being announced by JAWS when exploring
the screen.
list end
 
Google Docs
list of 6 items
• You can now type text into a document using Contracted Braille.
• Added speech and braille support for navigating tables inserted into documents.
• Resolved several issues with JAWS not detecting live region updates.
• Addressed issues where JAWS was announcing extraneous information when opening menus.
• Resolved several issues with menus and focus.
• Resolved multiple issues where focus would unexpectedly jump to other places while editing a document.
list end
 
JAWS
list of 7 items
• Addressed an issue where Settings Center changes made after migrating or importing settings were not taking affect unless JAWS was restarted.
• If the mouse echo feature is disabled, addressed an issue where speech was still being interupted when moving the physical mouse.
• In response to customer feedback, updated the Adding Special Symbols help topic with the correct location for the Eloq.sbl file.
• If a Windows 10 alarm goes off, addressed an issue where the volume of JAWS speech would unexpectedly be lowered to an unusable level, making it difficult
for a speech-only user to turn off the alarm.
• Addressed an issue that was observed in multiple applications where JAWS was reading the wrong word when pressing CTRL+BACKSPACE to delete the prior
word.
• Added a new Hebrew Computer Braille table. You can set this as a preferred table or set it as the primary table through the Braille Tables dialog box,
accessed by selecting the Computer Braille Tables option in Settings Center. Braille output must be set to Computer Braille before you can make this change.
• A customer using the Spanish version of JAWS reported several English messages and keystroke conflicts. These have been resolved.
list end
 
Microsoft Outlook
list of 5 items
• Addressed an issue with Outlook 2016 where JAWS was not reading all of the info in the meeting attendees list.
• If a calendar appointment lasts for more than one day, resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS would not indicate the appointment after moving
past the first day.
• If a calendar event is set to all day in Outlook 2013, resolved a reported issue with JAWS not reading the end date.
• Addressed a reported issue with the Outlook 2016 Office Theme combo box, located in the Options dialog box, not being displayed properly in braille.
• Addressed a reported issue with the INSERT+F keystroke to read the font and point size not saying anything when used in the message list in Outlook 2013
and 2016.
list end
 
Microsoft Word
list of 2 items
• Resolved an issue where JAWS would unexpectedly restart and Word 2013 would become unresponsive when attempting to insert a comment.
• When using CTRL+PAGE UP and CTRL+PAGE DOWN to switch pages, addressed a reported issue where JAWS was announcing the line from the prior page.
list end
 
Web Browsers
list of 7 items
• Added support for several ARIA 1.1 features including the aria-modal, aria-current, and aria-placeholder attributes, as well as support for partially
visible tables.
• When navigating to links in Firefox with the mouse and the new mouse echo feature is enabled, resolved an issue where JAWS was not  announcing the text
of the link as it appears on the web page.
• Addressed an issue in Firefox where pressing INSERT+R was not toggling Virtual Cursor restriction as expected in web-based dialog boxes.
• If END is pressed in an edit field in Google Chrome, addressed an issue where text in an edit field was no longer indicated in speech or braille.
• Resolved an issue with certain edit combos not being identified correctly in the virtual buffer in both Firefox and Chrome.
• Resolved an issue where tab controls would appear twice in the virtual buffer in Chrome.
• Addressed an issue with heading level indication in Chrome.
list end
 
Windows
list of 2 items
• Worked with Microsoft to resolve a reported issue with JAWS double speaking when entering text into a Windows 10 command prompt. This fix will be available
in a Windows update.
• JAWS now announces Microsoft UIA Alert Events. As a result you may now hear more Windows Notifications, and Mouse Echo can now speak more UIA elements,
like minimize, restore and maximize window controls.
list end
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


Re: food for thought

Carolyn Arnold
 

Oh, Cricket is $35 a month? What kind of phone do you have?
I have a sighted friend that really likes Cricket. Do you
get it at Wal-Mart?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Spitz
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

I have Cricket with unlimited everything for $35 a month.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

That is true, but I have over a year with Verizon. Time will
tell. Also, I can check with Laz, and see if I can get my
number and my contacts transferred to PagePlus; their deal
is nearly as good, costwise, as T-Mobile's.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 2:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Well, I say that if you're happy with your Revere you might
want to stay with Verizon Caroline. Because I don't think
that that phone will work on T-Mobile.

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On Oct 3, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Carolyn Arnold
<4carolyna@... <mailto:4carolyna@...>
wrote:
That is encouraging, since T-Mobile is one I would
like to
give consideration to when my Verizon contract runs
out,
which will be a while.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 1:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

As I am a brand-new customer to T-Mobile, I'll say
this much
here in Texas I have had one area that I've received
a
dropped call. And what area were I've had no service
whatsoever. But has to be expected with the town
being so
far out in the country. It is awful Dr. gravelly
road. Other
than that, I can listen to music without buffering,
I can
talk on calls without dropping and when the signal
is weak,
I have access to Wi-Fi calling if I needed. Assuming
I can
find a unsecure network to join or find what
password.

Joseph Hudson
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On Oct 1, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Carolyn Arnold
<4carolyna@...
<mailto:4carolyna@...>


wrote:



That is why I did not get T-Mobile. I really liked
their
plans, but I heard too much about their drop offs.
Everyone
says that here, Verizon has the best coverage, which
is what
I have now, but my daughter-in-law does drop. I
don't guess
I use mine enough to drop. My cousin has a Galaxy
and AT&T
in Houston, and I can say and have told her, that
she sounds
like she is calling from one of the good old
landline
phones, not a cordless one either, but a phone with
real
substance.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 7:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Here in my bush, TMobile has a horrid case with call
drops!
I've been in Walmart with a TMobile customer and the
phone
HAS NO SIGNALS! The individual waits till we get
out of the
store before being able to make or receive a call.
If the
call is urgent, my phone is used. I have service on
AT&T
through an MVNO.

When friends and I drive up the mountains, we barely
reach
6,900 feet and TMobile calls drop off. Not the same
case
with my phone. When I go on a cruise with my
troops, I can
still receive and make calls 500 nautical miles away
from
U.S. territorial waters! I'll never be a customer
of
TMobile even if the service costs 5 cents a month!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: problem updating windows 7

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Vicki,
 
Many people have had this same problem.  It's amazing that that with Microsoft knowing about this that it's still screwed up!  1 thing I did notice when I do updates is that Jaws doesn't report downloading percentage status, it always reports zero but, it does report the installation percentage status.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Vicki
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 11:40 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] problem updating windows 7

I am having an issue with Windows update using Windows 7.
 
I haven't been able to use my laptop for several months and it is now trying to do the updates. I have it set to notify me but not to download or install the updates.
 
I went ahead and selected the updates and it should be downloading and installing, which is says it is.
 
It isn't! It just sticks at 0% and has for several of hours.
 
I find it interesting that even though I haven't updated since June, there is no malicious software tool to install, only office and  updates.
 
Does anyone have a suggestion as to what I can try? As a side note, I did use the Never update to windows 10 tool.
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 


Re: food for thought

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Hello Heather, Temple, Belton, Killeen, and Harker rights are all part of Vail County. The 130 Toll Rd., runs from Georgetown on down to Seguine. Eight used to only run down to Buda. It is a straight line all the way down. There is one Business that is on the toll road and that is the McDonald's. So you probably stopped off somewhere in Georgetown or even possibly so that your mom had exited off of the toll road at one of the entrances. As there is an entrance about every 10 to 15 miles. I haven't calculated it, but I believe don't quote me, like I believed that toll road, runs for at least 90 miles. I will check on Wednesday and get back with you for sure. So look for a message from me next week.

On Oct 4, 2016, at 2:45 AM, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Well, it was quite country till i got to bellton or was it bell county! Is that Temple? I had service and lost it again I think around kyle! I did not get it because sh130 is practically along 35. So It only is a little different, think it curves around or something!  I wish someone could create a picture for me! I know we finally got off the road to get gass, who builds a tol road without having gass stations along it! I cant wait till the company goes completely broke as the state will be taking the tols off. Heather 
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

So Heather, I hear you saying did you lose signal whenever you hit the toll road with T-Mobile? All this may not be a good thing for me. As we take the whole thing down all the way to Seguine. I don't know what check it out and see.

On Oct 3, 2016, at 12:46 AM, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

I have T-Mobile. The only dropped calls are from others who have their calls dropped! Although, sh130 did not allow me to get a single out till i got off the tol road, suddenly, I could make calls! But, I think if one has to pay 22 dollars to get from Killeen,  to San Antonio, why the heck could their not be a cellular tower on the stupid tol road! Needless to say, I only used this road once and never again. Or should I say, my mom refused to take this road again even if it takes 45 minutes off the trip; 35 will do! Heather 
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Well I will say, the AT&T signal, was a little on the weak side Indy Area of Seabrook and surrounding towns. While it was stronger up close to Cypress in Tomball. I shall be checking whenever I go to Houston the next time about the T-Mobile signal.

On Oct 2, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:

These cell phone issues are really weird, because as I mentioned in a previous post many of my friends using cell phones have to be in a certain part of their house so that I can understand them, and one such person lives in Houston and Has AT&T.  He does not lose connection, but he sounds very muffled.  My land line is clear as a bell and I never lose connection with anyone.  However, I plan to get a cell phone soon, just so my family knows where I am when we are traveling, but I shall try to always keep my land line, but probably not in a bundle.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 1:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Same with my daughter-in-law, step daughter and sister - all of a sudden, whomever I'm talking to is just gone!

However, I have two cousins in Houston - both with AT&T, clear as a bell, can talk for over an hour, no drop. 

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 2:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

I'm not talking about cellphones from the early 2000s.  I also don't have an iPhone, but I'm talking about cellphones today.  There is a definite difference between the sound of a call on a cellphone, and the sound of a call on a regular phone.  There are little bits of sound that is lost.  But speaking of iPhones as you did, my cousin doesn't have a landline anymore; she has an iPhone, and she will call me, and it will suddenly disconnect us and she will have to call me back. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lenron
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 12:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Cellphones are pretty good in most places this aint the early 2000's or late 90's where you had to stress about so many drop calls. I don't think the average person is trying to listen in to calls you make from your IPhone about business. They are prety secure anyways. Plus I would hate having the extra cost for a phone I would never really use.
So bye bye to standard home phone service. Like someone said it's mostly done over the net anyways. Also most cell providers now have hd calling and that sounds even better than old land liines.

On 10/1/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
I turn on Call Forwarding, if I want to, and there are no dropped 
calls, when I'm on it at home.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 11:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] food for thought

Yeah but it still better clarity then a cell phone connection. Oh can 
I also mention that I Love the fact that that if I don't want to I 
don't have to give out my cell phone number. And I don't have to worry 
about on transferring it from my cell phone like you used to have to 
do to a traditional landline. With Time Warner cable, if I happen to 
go out and about, I can turn on something called answer anywhere and 
it will ring here at my home and on my cell phone if I were to get a 
call.

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On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:28 PM, Carlos
<carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...> >
wrote:

Although many cable providers these days use digital/VoIP phone 
systems, not true landlines.

----- Original Message -----
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Veronica, me too. But I also have mine in a bundle pack.

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On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:19 PM,
Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@... 
<mailto:veronicaa.kirk@...> > wrote:

And I am one of those lovers of land
lines and I don't have it because of bundling.  I just like the 
clarity when compared to a cell phone.

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thought

I think the speed that's shown is
pretty realistic. If you think about it yes landlines still exist but 
not very many have them anymore and if they do they are just there 
because with most cable companies it's cheeper to have the bundle

On 9/28/16, TerriLynne Pomeroy
<tl1@... <mailto:tl1@...> > wrote:


I feel pretty sure that this
isn't going to happen as quickly as the message implies. It would be 
interesting to have a more, in my opinion, time realistic version.



One thing I can think of is
a discussion I saw a few years ago on
loving land lines, and
if/when the phone companies would stop providing them.
Well,
for the lovers of land
lines, so far, so good.



I do think that the article
is something to think about, though, just not with the speed 
indicated.



TerriLynne






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