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Re: talking tv sets, a different idea

Gerald Levy
 

This "accessible"TV radio seems grossly overpriced for what it offers. For $185, you should at least expect some level of speech output. Basically, all this box does is scan over-the -air stations into memory and provides audible feedback to assist with antenna orientation , and that's about it. You still cannot identify which channel you are tuned to, and it offers no advantage if you use a cable box. I realize that this is a custom-made product, but it really isn't that much more accessible than a small-screen, basic mass-market digital TV that sells for $80 or less. And it is totally useless for other sighted family members in your household because it lacks a screen. Too bad OEHM Electronics does not offer a small, Walkman-style TV radio, which would certainly have more widespread consumer appeal.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] talking tv sets, a different idea

Hello,

It is certainly true that voice guidance in TV sets is helpful, but there is another option.

There is a radio especially designed to guide blind people in locating and listening to TV on-the-air programs. This DTV radio is made by Oehm Electronics and costs $185. It is menu or command driven. One neat feature is the ability to tell the user how strong a signal is. This is useful when orienting the antenna. If the received signal falls below a critical level, the user will know that the reception of that station will be marginal at best.

This radio does not read what's on the air program information.

It seems to me to be a viable alternative to more expensive TV solutions.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY


Re: I'm not a robot

Gene
 

There may be some problem with my Firefox and the captcha system may work with Firefox in general.  I'd have to test on more machines to test this further.  I have more than one version of firefox portable on this machine and I tested with two versions.  It didn't work with either version.  Perhaps I'll test with another machine, though reports from other users may verify that my experience is not representative.
 
I don't think you were verified just by clicking the checkbox because of the browser and screen-reader combination being used.  I was verified immediately one time that I tested with Chrome and NVDA.  All other tests with the same combination required me to answer one or more traditional captcha challenges. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Sorry I misspelled captcha. But I tried the link mentioned with IE and Firefox using Windows 10  and Window Eyes 9.5.3 and can tab to "I'm not a Robot" and I hear "check box unchecked" I used space bar to check the checkbox and this is what I hear "checked ", "opening verification", "you are verified" then tab to submit. I also tried with Chrome and did get a captcha. a series of graphics and you had to choose all that contained street signs, so WebVisum can't  determine this kind of captcha. I don't have JAWS to see if there is a difference using JAWS.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Once again, there is no such thing as a capture.  It's captcha.  If people are going to start contacting Google about this problem and trying to get them to make this properly accessible, people won't have much credibility if they don't spell the word correctly. 
 
We don't know what browser and screen-reader the person was using who didn't have problems.  Nor do we know if the system being used was identical technically to this one.  I've tried two or three combinations and I may test a little more using different settings in this or that browser but in the cases I've tested, the check box is not checked and a message appears that says opening captcha challenge but it never opens.  If it doesn't open and if the check box doesn't check, nothing can be done to verify the captcha with any system such as Webvisum we now use.  If this is what most people experience, Google has found a way to put us back to where we were years ago in terms of access to captchas.  A fine accomplishment by Google in its never-ending quest for accessibility which it loves to claim it is embarked on..
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)
 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Rajmund,
 
I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

> www.voicebase.com

> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

> What is VoiceBase?

> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.

> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.

> VoiceBase account sign up

> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).

> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

> Upload finished

> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.

> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>




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how ever I can not figure out how to have it update to the insider build when I go to windows update it doesn't find the insider build.

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Re: I'm not a robot

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


Sorry I misspelled captcha. But I tried the link mentioned with IE and Firefox using Windows 10  and Window Eyes 9.5.3 and can tab to "I'm not a Robot" and I hear "check box unchecked" I used space bar to check the checkbox and this is what I hear "checked ", "opening verification", "you are verified" then tab to submit. I also tried with Chrome and did get a captcha. a series of graphics and you had to choose all that contained street signs, so WebVisum can't  determine this kind of captcha. I don't have JAWS to see if there is a difference using JAWS.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Once again, there is no such thing as a capture.  It's captcha.  If people are going to start contacting Google about this problem and trying to get them to make this properly accessible, people won't have much credibility if they don't spell the word correctly. 
 
We don't know what browser and screen-reader the person was using who didn't have problems.  Nor do we know if the system being used was identical technically to this one.  I've tried two or three combinations and I may test a little more using different settings in this or that browser but in the cases I've tested, the check box is not checked and a message appears that says opening captcha challenge but it never opens.  If it doesn't open and if the check box doesn't check, nothing can be done to verify the captcha with any system such as Webvisum we now use.  If this is what most people experience, Google has found a way to put us back to where we were years ago in terms of access to captchas.  A fine accomplishment by Google in its never-ending quest for accessibility which it loves to claim it is embarked on..
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)
 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Rajmund,
 
I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

> www.voicebase.com

> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

> What is VoiceBase?

> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.

> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.

> VoiceBase account sign up

> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).

> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

> Upload finished

> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.

> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>




Re: talking tv sets, a different idea

Gene
 

If you want to receive over air signals, this is a good option.  I haven't followed accessibility of televisions for years but this radio allows the user to scan completely independently when getting the local list of stations and their frequencies into the radio. I also find the strength indicator to be valuable.  there are certain difficult stations to receive where this feature can greatly improve reception.  And even on easier stations to receive, it may help since different stations are received better with different antenna orientations. 
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:21 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] talking tv sets, a different idea

Hello,

It is certainly true that voice guidance in TV sets is helpful, but there is another option.

There is a radio especially designed to guide blind people in locating and listening to TV on-the-air programs. This DTV radio is made by Oehm Electronics and costs $185. It is menu or command driven. One neat feature is the ability to tell the user how strong a signal is. This is useful when orienting the antenna. If the received signal falls below a critical level, the user will know that the reception of that station will be marginal at best.

This radio does not read what's on the air program information.

It seems to me to be a viable alternative to more expensive TV solutions.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY



talking tv sets, a different idea

Joe Giovanelli
 

Hello,

It is certainly true that voice guidance in TV sets is helpful, but there is another option.

There is a radio especially designed to guide blind people in locating and listening to TV on-the-air programs. This DTV radio is made by Oehm Electronics and costs $185. It is menu or command driven. One neat feature is the ability to tell the user how strong a signal is. This is useful when orienting the antenna. If the received signal falls below a critical level, the user will know that the reception of that station will be marginal at best.

This radio does not read what's on the air program information.

It seems to me to be a viable alternative to more expensive TV solutions.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY


Re: I'm not a robot

Gene
 

I just looked at the material linked to in your message and here are my comments.
 
The blog was interesting.  The help contained a bit of information that it would be good to know so that is worth reading or reading most of as well.
 
Regarding the accessibility and usefulness of the system, we'll have to see what others say.  I don't use aria and I have notifications turned off.  I don't know what happens if notifications are on.  What do users who use aria and have notifications on find?  I don't believe that they will be directed to the bottom of the page to get to the captcha frame, but we'll see what people say. 
 
Also, the blog entry states that this system works with Firefox and IE11.  Again, we'll see what others say.  I already described my experience with Firefox.  Whether this indicates some problem with my Firefox, perhaps other responses will tell. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Hi Gene and all,

I was browsing the web and came across the following Google support page relating to Recapcha. Has some interesting sections regarding the challenge and, more importantly, regarding screen reader access.

https://support.google.com/recaptcha/?hl=en

I also came across this blog from about 12 months ago regarding Recapcha and screen readers:

http://terrillthompson.com/blog/682

Doesn't really solve the problems, but an interesting read if nothing else.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 21 November 2016 03:54
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Once again, there is no such thing as a capture.  It's captcha.  If people are going to start contacting Google about this problem and trying to get them to make this properly accessible, people won't have much credibility if they don't spell the word correctly.
 
We don't know what browser and screen-reader the person was using who didn't have problems.  Nor do we know if the system being used was identical technically to this one.  I've tried two or three combinations and I may test a little more using different settings in this or that browser but in the cases I've tested, the check box is not checked and a message appears that says opening captcha challenge but it never opens.  If it doesn't open and if the check box doesn't check, nothing can be done to verify the captcha with any system such as Webvisum we now use.  If this is what most people experience, Google has found a way to put us back to where we were years ago in terms of access to captchas.  A fine accomplishment by Google in its never-ending quest for accessibility which it loves to claim it is embarked on..
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Loy <mailto:loyrg2845@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch <mailto:florlync@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)

From: Flor Lynch <mailto:florlync@...>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .

From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Hi Rajmund,

I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!

----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund <mailto:brajmund2000@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?
>
> www.voicebase.com
>
> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase
>
> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.
>
> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777
>
> What is VoiceBase?
>
> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.
>
> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!
>
> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students
>
> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.
>
> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically
>
> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.
>
> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.
>
> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service
>
> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.
>
> VoiceBase account sign up
>
> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.
>
> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).
>
> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.
>
> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.
>
> Upload finished
>
> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.
>
> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.
>
> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.
>
> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.
>
> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!
>
> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.
>
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>











Re: I'm not a robot

Gene
 

Here is the latest in my experience and comments.
 
I wrote to Google about the improper flagging of my computer or IP address or whatever they flag.  I tried using the system now, about five or six hours after I wrote to them.  I was verified just by clicking the check box.  I wasn't required to work with an audio challenge.  Whether Google staff did anything or the passage of time automatically caused me to no longer be flagged, I don't know.  I haven't heard anything from Google yet. 
 
All I can tell people at this time is, if you use Google on such captchas, they may work.  If you use Firefox, I, at any rate, couldn't get it to work regardless of what I tried.  I have no idea what would happen with Internet Explorer.  I believe these captchas are going to be very common over time.  Why wouldn't they be?  People have despised manually entering captchas for a long time because of the difficult of reading the distorted characters.  I seldom do things on sites that require filling out captchas, but I've seen two or three sites in the last week that use this system.  Like it or not, you may have to have Chrome on your machine, at least for now, to work with these captchas in Windows.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Here is the latest.  I could see the captcha part of the window using Chrome but not Firefox.  That's outrageous.  And also, the window is at the very bottom of the screen.  Just where people will look.  It doesn't open where you are, it opens at the very bottom of the page.  Just what most blind people are going to do, go to the very bottom of the page to see if something opened there..
 
But when I tried to use the audio captcha, I got a message that my computer or network might be sending automated queries and my request can't be met at this time. 
 
We'll see what happens to morrow.  Did Google decide this because I had tried to open the captcha in Firefox many times and it wouldn't open? 
 
Whatever the case, it is inexcusable that you can see the captcha window in Google and not in Firefox.  I can't test with Internet Explorer.  I almost never use it and I don't have a current version.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Once again, there is no such thing as a capture.  It's captcha.  If people are going to start contacting Google about this problem and trying to get them to make this properly accessible, people won't have much credibility if they don't spell the word correctly. 
 
We don't know what browser and screen-reader the person was using who didn't have problems.  Nor do we know if the system being used was identical technically to this one.  I've tried two or three combinations and I may test a little more using different settings in this or that browser but in the cases I've tested, the check box is not checked and a message appears that says opening captcha challenge but it never opens.  If it doesn't open and if the check box doesn't check, nothing can be done to verify the captcha with any system such as Webvisum we now use.  If this is what most people experience, Google has found a way to put us back to where we were years ago in terms of access to captchas.  A fine accomplishment by Google in its never-ending quest for accessibility which it loves to claim it is embarked on..
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)
 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Rajmund,
 
I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

> www.voicebase.com

> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

> What is VoiceBase?

> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.

> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.

> VoiceBase account sign up

> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).

> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

> Upload finished

> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.

> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>




Re: samsung talking tv

Tim Grady <timfgrady758@...>
 

Well, if you aren’t using regular tv there isn’t too much you can do but picture and other adjustments.  Also there some neat things you can do with your remote, like you can control an amazon firth stick or  dvd or bd player or compatible one for that matter.  If you live in europe or asia I understand there is a binlt-in recorder/player function with naturally disabled in the us but I have seen that people have hacked it.  In short I think that if you wanted a good smaller tv there isn’t anything wrong with it and it talks.  Just because it won’t read a non-speaking box doesn’t mean it is useless.  In fact, with a little imagination you’d be surprised who you cold do with it.  Also you should realize that it may not be able to do what you want now, but it is one of a growing number of products that can be updated so I would say it would be a good tv to get even if it didn’t talk.
  

On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:50 AM, Mike Thomas <wheeltime@...> wrote:

To all you guys that have the Samsung talking TV, or another talking TV brand...  I am considering updating an older television to a flat screen because I want to also use an Apple TV with it.  I've looked at the Samsung, and the only thing I can find the Voice guide feature would help me with is switching the input from TV to HDMI to switch between the cable connection for the dish to the Apple TV.  Other than that, I can't think of any reason I'd have to go to a talking smart TV in my particular case.  The Dish Network signal comes into that room on channel 3, so that never gets changed.  Can you guys think of anything I should be considering when deciding to go with a standard TV verses the Samsung talking TV?
Thanks,
Mike


----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] samsung talking tv


I have direct TV and got spanish when there is no descriptive audio I just press a button on my remote it goes away.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 9:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] samsung talking tv

Okay George, here is what I did.  If your receiver is different than mine, it could be a little different, but here are the steps I use:

press the menu button on the remote control.  Then to get to the correct area, you press the number 8 and then the number 3.  I think this lands you in the audio preferences screen.  Now you have to get to the list of selection of languages.  For me, I press the left arrow once and it gets me there.  On my list English is the very top item and you scroll down to the very bottom of the list for alternate.  Alternate is below the last language shown in the list, but its there if you press the down arrow 8 times or more as its the last item in the list, and it doesn't go from bottom to top by continuing to go down more.  Once you're on alternate, press the select button on the remote.  Next you need to get to the "Done" button.  If you're setting the selection to Alternate, arrow right once, and then arrow up once and you should land on done.  press select to lock it in.  Now you're ready to exit the menus.  I've found selecting  Done again while you're on it, and then turning the satellite receiver off with the remote and then back on accomplishes cancelling and locking in the settings change.  I strongly suggest you have sighted help if at all possible.  Otherwise, give dish a call, and let them walk you through the process.  If you happen to be changing from Alternate back to English, because English is at the top of the list, when you leave the list and move right with the right arrow, you'll already be on the done button, and you can skip the up arrow button push.  I think you land on the help screen if you do the up arrow.  Anyway, best of luck, but it does work.  Once you get use to it, its pretty easy to switch in and out of SAP alternate mode.  One thing...  Dish network said because it is on an alternate audio feed, if a channel happens to be pushing Spanish on that alternate feed, you might get that when you expect description. I have not encountered anything but the descriptive audio though.  The receiver seems to stay in alternate audio mode, but I haven't experienced a power loss yet.  That might send it back to the default English setting.

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] samsung talking tv


Mike,

What are the steps to turn on audio description for dish I have dish and can
not figure it out I did try and ended up with the Spanish broadcast on
channels that did that and did not get any audio describe.

Could you please send me the steps to do this with dish.

thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike Thomas
Sent: November 12, 2016 14:10
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] samsung talking tv

Hi Gary,  In my particular case I'm using Dish network, and the audio
descriptions needed to be turned on on the satellite receiver, and not the
TV.  If you are receiving over the air signals, try the fox network for
described video.  so far, they are the only ones I know is sending
descriptions in my Tampa, Florida area.  I don't know what broadcast area
you are receiving, but only the biggest 60 broadcast areas in the United
States are required to even send description from what I've learned.  The
Fox channel that sends description sure is nice.  I have not found
description on any other network as of yet, although I've only been
receiving description for about a week.  All the best of luck.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Greico" <pianotuner3@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:22 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] samsung talking tv


I have a samsung talking tv.  The voice guide is on & audio description is
on.  I am using network tv not a box & audio description still doesn't
work.  Any suggestions?






















Re: I'm not a robot

Flor Lynch
 

I was getting that response after a few tries, as well.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Here is the latest.  I could see the captcha part of the window using Chrome but not Firefox.  That's outrageous.  And also, the window is at the very bottom of the screen.  Just where people will look.  It doesn't open where you are, it opens at the very bottom of the page.  Just what most blind people are going to do, go to the very bottom of the page to see if something opened there..
 
But when I tried to use the audio captcha, I got a message that my computer or network might be sending automated queries and my request can't be met at this time. 
 
We'll see what happens to morrow.  Did Google decide this because I had tried to open the captcha in Firefox many times and it wouldn't open? 
 
Whatever the case, it is inexcusable that you can see the captcha window in Google and not in Firefox.  I can't test with Internet Explorer.  I almost never use it and I don't have a current version.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Once again, there is no such thing as a capture.  It's captcha.  If people are going to start contacting Google about this problem and trying to get them to make this properly accessible, people won't have much credibility if they don't spell the word correctly. 
 
We don't know what browser and screen-reader the person was using who didn't have problems.  Nor do we know if the system being used was identical technically to this one.  I've tried two or three combinations and I may test a little more using different settings in this or that browser but in the cases I've tested, the check box is not checked and a message appears that says opening captcha challenge but it never opens.  If it doesn't open and if the check box doesn't check, nothing can be done to verify the captcha with any system such as Webvisum we now use.  If this is what most people experience, Google has found a way to put us back to where we were years ago in terms of access to captchas.  A fine accomplishment by Google in its never-ending quest for accessibility which it loves to claim it is embarked on..
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)
 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.
----- Original Message -----
>From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Rajmund,
 
I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

> www.voicebase.com

> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

> What is VoiceBase?

> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.

> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.

> VoiceBase account sign up

> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).

> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

> Upload finished

> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.

> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>




Re: I'm not a robot

Gerald Levy
 

Seems to me that the biggest problem we blind computer users face with regard to recaptchas and "I am not a robot" check boxes is finding an organization that is willing to take this issue seriously. So far, neither of the two leading blindness advocacy groups has demonstrated much willingness to take a hard-line stance against Google and other companies whose web sites employ such inaccessible security measures.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: John Gregory
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 6:14 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Hi Gene and all,

I was browsing the web and came across the following Google support page relating to Recapcha. Has some interesting sections regarding the challenge and, more importantly, regarding screen reader access.

https://support.google.com/recaptcha/?hl=en

I also came across this blog from about 12 months ago regarding Recapcha and screen readers:

http://terrillthompson.com/blog/682

Doesn't really solve the problems, but an interesting read if nothing else.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 21 November 2016 03:54
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Once again, there is no such thing as a capture. It's captcha. If people are going to start contacting Google about this problem and trying to get them to make this properly accessible, people won't have much credibility if they don't spell the word correctly.

We don't know what browser and screen-reader the person was using who didn't have problems. Nor do we know if the system being used was identical technically to this one. I've tried two or three combinations and I may test a little more using different settings in this or that browser but in the cases I've tested, the check box is not checked and a message appears that says opening captcha challenge but it never opens. If it doesn't open and if the check box doesn't check, nothing can be done to verify the captcha with any system such as Webvisum we now use. If this is what most people experience, Google has found a way to put us back to where we were years ago in terms of access to captchas. A fine accomplishment by Google in its never-ending quest for accessibility which it loves to claim it is embarked on..

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Loy <mailto:loyrg2845@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch <mailto:florlync@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)

From: Flor Lynch <mailto:florlync@...>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .

From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step. After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved. Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas. I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Hi Rajmund,

I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked. Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it. So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is? Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Dodgers, try again next year!

----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund <mailto:brajmund2000@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise, if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot



Hi All,

Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

www.voicebase.com

I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired. If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account? All help will be greatly appreciated. Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

Last time when
I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
I needed an app that could
convert an audio file
with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

What is VoiceBase?

VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
like you and me, can convert a
voice recording
into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
is high.

Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

SEE ALSO:
200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
access to VoiceBase.

VoiceBase account sign up

Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

VoiceBase account
Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
file sharing
type (Private or Public).

Tip: use
Freemake Free Audio Converter
to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

Upload finished

Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
it into a text file.

Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

Text version of audio file
Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
Dragon Dictation.
Thanks much.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Dodgers, try again next year!


Re: I'm not a robot

John Gregory <john.gm.gregory@...>
 

Hi Gene and all,

I was browsing the web and came across the following Google support page relating to Recapcha. Has some interesting sections regarding the challenge and, more importantly, regarding screen reader access.

https://support.google.com/recaptcha/?hl=en

I also came across this blog from about 12 months ago regarding Recapcha and screen readers:

http://terrillthompson.com/blog/682

Doesn't really solve the problems, but an interesting read if nothing else.

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 21 November 2016 03:54
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Once again, there is no such thing as a capture. It's captcha. If people are going to start contacting Google about this problem and trying to get them to make this properly accessible, people won't have much credibility if they don't spell the word correctly.

We don't know what browser and screen-reader the person was using who didn't have problems. Nor do we know if the system being used was identical technically to this one. I've tried two or three combinations and I may test a little more using different settings in this or that browser but in the cases I've tested, the check box is not checked and a message appears that says opening captcha challenge but it never opens. If it doesn't open and if the check box doesn't check, nothing can be done to verify the captcha with any system such as Webvisum we now use. If this is what most people experience, Google has found a way to put us back to where we were years ago in terms of access to captchas. A fine accomplishment by Google in its never-ending quest for accessibility which it loves to claim it is embarked on..

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Loy <mailto:loyrg2845@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch <mailto:florlync@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)

From: Flor Lynch <mailto:florlync@...>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .

From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step. After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved. Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas. I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Hi Rajmund,

I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked. Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it. So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is? Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Dodgers, try again next year!

----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund <mailto:brajmund2000@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise, if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?
>
> www.voicebase.com
>
> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired. If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account? All help will be greatly appreciated. Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase
>
> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
> with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.
>
> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777
>
> What is VoiceBase?
>
> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
> into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.
>
> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!
>
> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students
>
> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.
>
> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically
>
> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.
>
> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.
>
> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service
>
> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.
>
> VoiceBase account sign up
>
> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.
>
> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
> type (Private or Public).
>
> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
> to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.
>
> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.
>
> Upload finished
>
> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.
>
> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.
>
> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.
>
> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.
>
> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!
>
> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
> Thanks much.
>
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool. Dodgers, try again next year!
>


Re: I'm not a robot

Gene
 

Here is the latest.  I could see the captcha part of the window using Chrome but not Firefox.  That's outrageous.  And also, the window is at the very bottom of the screen.  Just where people will look.  It doesn't open where you are, it opens at the very bottom of the page.  Just what most blind people are going to do, go to the very bottom of the page to see if something opened there..
 
But when I tried to use the audio captcha, I got a message that my computer or network might be sending automated queries and my request can't be met at this time. 
 
We'll see what happens to morrow.  Did Google decide this because I had tried to open the captcha in Firefox many times and it wouldn't open? 
 
Whatever the case, it is inexcusable that you can see the captcha window in Google and not in Firefox.  I can't test with Internet Explorer.  I almost never use it and I don't have a current version.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

Once again, there is no such thing as a capture.  It's captcha.  If people are going to start contacting Google about this problem and trying to get them to make this properly accessible, people won't have much credibility if they don't spell the word correctly. 
 
We don't know what browser and screen-reader the person was using who didn't have problems.  Nor do we know if the system being used was identical technically to this one.  I've tried two or three combinations and I may test a little more using different settings in this or that browser but in the cases I've tested, the check box is not checked and a message appears that says opening captcha challenge but it never opens.  If it doesn't open and if the check box doesn't check, nothing can be done to verify the captcha with any system such as Webvisum we now use.  If this is what most people experience, Google has found a way to put us back to where we were years ago in terms of access to captchas.  A fine accomplishment by Google in its never-ending quest for accessibility which it loves to claim it is embarked on..
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)
 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Rajmund,
 
I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

> www.voicebase.com

> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

> What is VoiceBase?

> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.

> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.

> VoiceBase account sign up

> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).

> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

> Upload finished

> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.

> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>




Re: I'm not a robot

Gene
 

Once again, there is no such thing as a capture.  It's captcha.  If people are going to start contacting Google about this problem and trying to get them to make this properly accessible, people won't have much credibility if they don't spell the word correctly. 
 
We don't know what browser and screen-reader the person was using who didn't have problems.  Nor do we know if the system being used was identical technically to this one.  I've tried two or three combinations and I may test a little more using different settings in this or that browser but in the cases I've tested, the check box is not checked and a message appears that says opening captcha challenge but it never opens.  If it doesn't open and if the check box doesn't check, nothing can be done to verify the captcha with any system such as Webvisum we now use.  If this is what most people experience, Google has found a way to put us back to where we were years ago in terms of access to captchas.  A fine accomplishment by Google in its never-ending quest for accessibility which it loves to claim it is embarked on..
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)
 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Rajmund,
 
I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

> www.voicebase.com

> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

> What is VoiceBase?

> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.

> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.

> VoiceBase account sign up

> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).

> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

> Upload finished

> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.

> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>




Re: Recaptcha problems

Gene
 

This captcha system is obviously going to be increasingly used and I believe it will completely replace the older systems.  Google once again, despite all its unending grand talk about accesseibility, can't be bothered to make this captcha system accessible.  So it's time to start once again putting on the pressure to try to make Google once again make something accessible it could have made so from the outset. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems

I solved the problem with a solution that certainly won’t help everybody, but will help some users.
 
(Hopefully Android TalkBack etc users will be able to sove the problem in much the way I did. I have an iPhone 5S.) After I found that neither Internet Explorer nor Firefox on my Windows PC could solve the CAPTCHA using JAWS – or a screen-reader – I resorted to iO and Safari. But typing in the long address there, Safari reported ‘server cannot be found’. (This may have been because there was a question mark in the URL. And this was at any time after my PC browser was closed.)
 
So I tweeted and got 1 reply some tyime later, from a person who said they’d no problem with the “I am not a robot” box in VoiceOver. I then had the idea to try the URL with the is.gd shortener, which conveniently shorted it so that I could input it without typos into Safarion IiOS. This I did. I was then presented with the usual CAPTCHA challenges, including an audio one of numbers. I played that, typed them in. And then I heard the magic words, you are verified.
 
So now I wait till Monday afternoon, see if I get the lunchtime email I signed up to. 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems
This article explains how this check box works.  It may be that it presents accessibility problems because since we don't use a mouse, some of what is measured from mouse users isn't present.  I may look for one of these captchas and play with it again.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems
 
My recollection is that the check box is checked in the usual way on sites where I've seen this captcha.  And, near the chec, box. a notice appears that says some thing like opening captcha or opening challenge or something similar.  But nothing ever happens.  It may be that turning off my popup blocker would allow something to happen but a properly designed captcha should not reqquire this.  And if it is required, it should be stated on the page. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems
 
I've come across one today, whilst attemtping to sign up to a daily email
from a newspaper. Using Internet Explorer: Once that checkbox is checked,
which might be by pressing SPACE twice quickly on it, it appears to me that
you're taken to a new page, after which there's an audio captcha that you
play. However, the checkbox is a bit hit-or-miss, as those who've come
across it will know; and you're allowed only a few attempts before you'll
have to start over again. (It's much the same with tFirefox and the signed
WebVisum. I think I'll hit it with Chrome, see how that fares.) I thought
I'd solved the audio captcha, but no; so I'll need to revisit the page, with
sighted assistance, tomorrow, to help and explain it also.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Gregory
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems

This 'I am not a robot' was introduced by Google, so I suggest contacting
them to ascertain the most effective way of screen readers accessing the
checkbox - after all, Google likes to promote itself as 'accessible'.

John.


-----Original Message-----
>From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 19 November 2016 19:12
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems

The I am not a robot check box appears to me to be a new or rather new
variation of captchas.  If there is a way to work with that variation of
captcha, I haven't figured it out.

Gene
----- Original message -----

>From: Peter Spitz <mailto:peter.a.spitz@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems


When I encounter a website that has recaptcha challenges, I can never get
the check box for I am not a robot to check.  I seem to go through and
endless loop of audio challenges or the multiple choice questions.  Is this
typical? Any advice would be greatly appreciated as it is driving me nuts.



Peter









Re: I'm not a robot

Carlos
 


Yes, I have seen that type as well.  I think we'll just have to accept that there are different variants.

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)
 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Rajmund,
 
I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

> www.voicebase.com

> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

> What is VoiceBase?

> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.

> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.

> VoiceBase account sign up

> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).

> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

> Upload finished

> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.

> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>




Re: I'm not a robot

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


In my experiences with the I'm not a robot. I have been able to check the check box with no father captures.

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)
 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Rajmund,
 
I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

> www.voicebase.com

> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

> What is VoiceBase?

> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.

> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.

> VoiceBase account sign up

> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).

> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

> Upload finished

> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.

> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>




Re: I'm not a robot

Flor Lynch
 

(This, of course, may not apply to all “I am not a robot” reCaptchas which require more than checking a checkbox to solve. If the technology can’t initially verify at step 1 that you are human, you’re stuck there. It also doesn’t yet have at or near 100% accuracy in telling humans apart from computer bots.)
 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Rajmund,
 
I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

> www.voicebase.com

> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

> What is VoiceBase?

> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.

> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.

> VoiceBase account sign up

> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).

> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

> Upload finished

> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.

> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>




Re: I'm not a robot

Flor Lynch
 

I fround WebVisum not to be capable of resolving the CAPTCHA then (as it couldn’t see it). .
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
Usually these checkboxes are just a different type of captcha with an additional step.  After checking the box, there is still a captcha which has to be resolved.  Rumola seems to be capable of dealing with these types of captchas.  I haven't tested WebVisum with one yet.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Rajmund,
 
I do have Firefox & Webvisum but, I was curious if anyone had used this service, & to get feedback on how well it worked.  Also, I read somewhere something on what you're supposed to do when you encounter 1 of those, I'm not a robot, checkboxes but, I can't find any notes ont it.  So, do you have any helpful hints on the I'm not a robot checkboxes, & what their purpose is?  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot
 
Hi Mike,
Thought of firefox and WebVisum? Just a thought. I can take a look otherwise,  if you wish.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:29 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not a robot

>
>
> Hi All,

> Has anyone had any success with creating an account at the website below?

> www.voicebase.com

> I would like to create an account to convert a couple of audio files to text files but, there's a, I'm not a robot, checkbox that I can't get checked, & there appears to be a CAPTCHA that don't offer an audio option for visually impaired.  If anyone has had success with this website would you please give me advice on on how to create an account?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Below are steps on how you're supposed to use this website:
> How to Turn Audio into Text Free with VoiceBase

> Last time when
> I interviewed our guest Chris Pirillo,
> I needed an app that could
> convert an audio file
>  with his speech into a text document. Frankly speaking, I wanted to save my time instead of boring typing each word that he had pronounced. Suddenly,
> the savior sprang up; it's a free web service named VoiceBase that converts audio files (in MP3, WMA or M4A formats) into text docs automatically.

> or80kjspjr6E78FDD7687BABEFG68BA7AAFADA777

> What is VoiceBase?

> VoiceBase is an online voice to text transcription service for companies and individuals. Though, it mainly focuses on business clients, an ordinary user,
> like you and me, can convert a
> voice recording
>  into a text file for free at VoiceBase. As for January 2016, each new user is granted a free account with $60 credit and up to 50 hours of audio storage.
> It costs about $0.01 to transcribe 10 second speech. VoiceBase uses smart voice recognition technology, so the quality of its machine audio transcript
> is high.

> Obviously, the final text quality depends on original sound track and the speaker's accent. VoiceBase understands US English pronunciation seamlessly.
> If a person speaks clearly, then the text is close to manually written. If an interviewer mumbles or lisps, then you'll have to review the transcript or
> hire someone for text checkup. Fortunately, you can order human transcript right in your VoiceBase account. Moreover, you can turn video into text!

> SEE ALSO:
> 200+ Useful Resources & Tools for Teachers & Students

> Let's see how you can use all VoiceBase powerful features.

> How to Convert Audio to Text Automatically

> In fact, VoiceBase is remarkable for quick and easy speech to text conversion. The website interface is clear and you smoothly go step by step.

> Step 1. Go to www.voicebase.com and click the green Upload a file button in the middle of the screen.

> VoiceBase Speech to Text Online Service

> Step 2. Create a free VoiceBase account. Provide your name, email address and click the Sign Up button. You have to confirm your account via email to get
> access to VoiceBase.

> VoiceBase account sign up

> Step 3. Click the green Upload button at the top right corner.

> VoiceBase account
> Step 4. Add an audio or a video file of a supported format. Name your file, add a description, select the Machine Transcription, and a
> file sharing
>  type (Private or Public).

> Tip: use
> Freemake Free Audio Converter
>  to make a supported audio file for VoiceBase.

> Step 5. Your file will be processed and you'll be notified by email when it's ready.

> Upload finished

> Later, you can find the file at the My Content tab. For example, I've added a 10 minute audio interview in M4A format and it took about 15 minutes to convert
> it into a text file.

> Step 6. When the text file is done, go to My Content tab in your VoiceBase account and click on the name of your file.

> Step 7. Check the Machine Transcript box right under your audio file.

> Text version of audio file
> Step 8. Copy the transcript and save it as text document.

> Summary: VoiceBase is a fast online audio to text converter. Needless to say, it is suitable for everyone no matter what you need: an automatic or human
> speech to document conversion. Go to voicebase.com try VoiceBase, too!

> If you are not satisfied with its result, try another voice-to-text converter:
> Dragon Dictation.
>  Thanks much.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>




Re: Recaptcha problems

Flor Lynch
 

If they did, I guess We’d know it as the solution would’ve been published widely enough.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems
As I have said before, not all of these captchas with the "I am not a robot" checkbox seem to work the same.  I was able to solve at least one of them using Rumola.

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems
 
I solved the problem with a solution that certainly won’t help everybody, but will help some users.
 
(Hopefully Android TalkBack etc users will be able to sove the problem in much the way I did. I have an iPhone 5S.) After I found that neither Internet Explorer nor Firefox on my Windows PC could solve the CAPTCHA using JAWS – or a screen-reader – I resorted to iO and Safari. But typing in the long address there, Safari reported ‘server cannot be found’. (This may have been because there was a question mark in the URL. And this was at any time after my PC browser was closed.)
 
So I tweeted and got 1 reply some tyime later, from a person who said they’d no problem with the “I am not a robot” box in VoiceOver. I then had the idea to try the URL with the is.gd shortener, which conveniently shorted it so that I could input it without typos into Safarion IiOS. This I did. I was then presented with the usual CAPTCHA challenges, including an audio one of numbers. I played that, typed them in. And then I heard the magic words, you are verified.
 
So now I wait till Monday afternoon, see if I get the lunchtime email I signed up to. 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems
This article explains how this check box works.  It may be that it presents accessibility problems because since we don't use a mouse, some of what is measured from mouse users isn't present.  I may look for one of these captchas and play with it again.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems
 
My recollection is that the check box is checked in the usual way on sites where I've seen this captcha.  And, near the chec, box. a notice appears that says some thing like opening captcha or opening challenge or something similar.  But nothing ever happens.  It may be that turning off my popup blocker would allow something to happen but a properly designed captcha should not reqquire this.  And if it is required, it should be stated on the page. 
 
Gene
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From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems
 
I've come across one today, whilst attemtping to sign up to a daily email
from a newspaper. Using Internet Explorer: Once that checkbox is checked,
which might be by pressing SPACE twice quickly on it, it appears to me that
you're taken to a new page, after which there's an audio captcha that you
play. However, the checkbox is a bit hit-or-miss, as those who've come
across it will know; and you're allowed only a few attempts before you'll
have to start over again. (It's much the same with tFirefox and the signed
WebVisum. I think I'll hit it with Chrome, see how that fares.) I thought
I'd solved the audio captcha, but no; so I'll need to revisit the page, with
sighted assistance, tomorrow, to help and explain it also.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Gregory
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems

This 'I am not a robot' was introduced by Google, so I suggest contacting
them to ascertain the most effective way of screen readers accessing the
checkbox - after all, Google likes to promote itself as 'accessible'.

John.


-----Original Message-----
>From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 19 November 2016 19:12
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems

The I am not a robot check box appears to me to be a new or rather new
variation of captchas.  If there is a way to work with that variation of
captcha, I haven't figured it out.

Gene
----- Original message -----

>From: Peter Spitz <mailto:peter.a.spitz@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Recaptcha problems


When I encounter a website that has recaptcha challenges, I can never get
the check box for I am not a robot to check.  I seem to go through and
endless loop of audio challenges or the multiple choice questions.  Is this
typical? Any advice would be greatly appreciated as it is driving me nuts.



Peter








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