Date   

Re: outlook.comand wlm

Flor Lynch
 

No! Afraid not. Microsoft, in their infinite monkey wisdom, decided to drop outlook/com/hotmail support for Windows Live Mail a year or two past.
 

From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 8:49 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] outlook.comand wlm

Hi,

 

I have the latest wlm and also an outlook.com email address.

 

Is it possible to configure the outlook.com email address using wlm?

Thanks.

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Sugar
 

Oh it's a oldie but goodie. Like a braille N speak.

'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the
night.

Sugar

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Sugar, what is a Braille Lite?

I am going to forward this one to some of my Texas Buddies.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

On the first day of rehab my counselor gave to me a white cane because I
cannot see.

On the second day of rehab my counselor gave to me two talking books, and a
white cane because I cannot see.

On the third day of rehab my counselor gave to me three Braille Lites, two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fourth day of rehab my counselor gave to me four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot
see.

On the fifth day of rehab my counselor gave to me five years of school, four
talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane
because I cannot see.

On the sixth day of rehab my counselor gave to me Six dogs a-guiding, five
years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking
books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 7th day of rehab my counselor gave to me Seven jobs applying, Six
dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille
Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the eighth day of rehab my counselor gave to me eight counselors
counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school,
four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white
cane because I cannot see.

On the ninth day of rehab my counselor gave to me nine authorizations for
filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs
a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites,
two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the tenth day of rehab my counselor gave to me ten scanners reading, nine
authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs
applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot
see.

On the 11th day of rehab my counselor gave to me eleven magnifiers
enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine authorizations for filling, eight
counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years
of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and
a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 12th day of rehab my counselor gave to me twelve computers talking,
eleven magnifiers enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine authorizations for
filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs
a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites,
two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

AND I STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB!

"I Rather Walk In Darkness With God, Than To Walk Alone In The Light"
-Sugar

Come and joine me and my busy elves at the North Pole for fun and tasty
Recipes all around, especially for Christmas!:
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/Santas-Workshop


Re: Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Carolyn Arnold
 

Sugar, what is a Braille Lite?

I am going to forward this one to some of my Texas Buddies.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

On the first day of rehab my counselor gave to me a white
cane because I cannot see.

On the second day of rehab my counselor gave to me two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the third day of rehab my counselor gave to me three
Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I
cannot see.

On the fourth day of rehab my counselor gave to me four
talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and
a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fifth day of rehab my counselor gave to me five years
of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the sixth day of rehab my counselor gave to me Six dogs
a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I
cannot see.

On the 7th day of rehab my counselor gave to me Seven jobs
applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four
talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and
a white cane because I cannot see.

On the eighth day of rehab my counselor gave to me eight
counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs
a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I
cannot see.

On the ninth day of rehab my counselor gave to me nine
authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of
school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the tenth day of rehab my counselor gave to me ten
scanners reading, nine authorizations for filling, eight
counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs
a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I
cannot see.

On the 11th day of rehab my counselor gave to me eleven
magnifiers enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine
authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of
school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 12th day of rehab my counselor gave to me twelve
computers talking, eleven magnifiers enlarging, ten scanners
reading, nine authorizations for filling, eight counselors
counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five
years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites,
two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

AND I STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB!

"I Rather Walk In Darkness With God, Than To Walk Alone In
The Light"
-Sugar

Come and joine me and my busy elves at the North Pole for
fun and tasty Recipes all around, especially for Christmas!:
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/Santas-Workshop


Re: Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Gerald Levy
 

This parody of "The 12 Days of Christmas" by Alan Sherman is probably the funniest version ever recorded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQMub1YAzvE

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

LOL yes do shar..smile

'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the
night.

Sugar


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ron Canazzi
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

That's clever; I'm saving that one to pass on to some others.



On 12/14/2016 3:59 PM, Sugar wrote:
Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

On the first day of rehab my counselor gave to me a white cane because
I cannot see.

On the second day of rehab my counselor gave to me two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the third day of rehab my counselor gave to me three Braille Lites,
two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fourth day of rehab my counselor gave to me four talking
clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane
because I cannot see.

On the fifth day of rehab my counselor gave to me five years of
school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the sixth day of rehab my counselor gave to me Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 7th day of rehab my counselor gave to me Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot
see.

On the eighth day of rehab my counselor gave to me eight counselors
counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of
school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the ninth day of rehab my counselor gave to me nine authorizations
for filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six
dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot
see.

On the tenth day of rehab my counselor gave to me ten scanners
reading, nine authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four
talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white
cane because I cannot see.

On the 11th day of rehab my counselor gave to me eleven magnifiers
enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 12th day of rehab my counselor gave to me twelve computers
talking, eleven magnifiers enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine
authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs
applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking
clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane
because I cannot see.

AND I STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB!

"I Rather Walk In Darkness With God, Than To Walk Alone In The Light"
-Sugar

Come and joine me and my busy elves at the North Pole for fun and
tasty Recipes all around, especially for Christmas!:
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/Santas-Workshop







--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Sugar,
 
Sugar said, " AND I STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB!"
 
So, I had to sell all that stuff to pay rent & buy food!  LOL  LOL 
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

LOL yes do shar..smile

 'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the
night.

Sugar


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ron Canazzi
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

That's clever; I'm saving that one to pass on to some others.



On 12/14/2016 3:59 PM, Sugar wrote:
> Sugar's 12 days of Christmas
>
> On the first day of rehab my counselor gave to me a white cane because
> I cannot see.
>
> On the second day of rehab my counselor gave to me two talking books,
> and a white cane because I cannot see.
>
> On the third day of rehab my counselor gave to me three Braille Lites,
> two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.
>
> On the fourth day of rehab my counselor gave to me four talking
> clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane
> because I cannot see.
>
> On the fifth day of rehab my counselor gave to me five years of
> school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books,
> and a white cane because I cannot see.
>
> On the sixth day of rehab my counselor gave to me Six dogs a-guiding,
> five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
> talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.
>
> On the 7th day of rehab my counselor gave to me Seven jobs applying,
> Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
> Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot
> see.
>
> On the eighth day of rehab my counselor gave to me eight counselors
> counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of
> school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books,
> and a white cane because I cannot see.
>
> On the ninth day of rehab my counselor gave to me nine authorizations
> for filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six
> dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
> Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot
> see.
>
> On the tenth day of rehab my counselor gave to me ten scanners
> reading, nine authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling,
> Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four
> talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white
> cane because I cannot see.
>
> On the 11th day of rehab my counselor gave to me eleven magnifiers
> enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine authorizations for filling,
> eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding,
> five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
> talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.
>
> On the 12th day of rehab my counselor gave to me twelve computers
> talking, eleven magnifiers enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine
> authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs
> applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking
> clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane
> because I cannot see.
>
> AND I STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB!
>
> "I Rather Walk In Darkness With God, Than To Walk Alone In The Light"
> -Sugar
>
> Come and joine me and my busy elves at the North Pole for fun and
> tasty Recipes all around, especially for Christmas!:
> https://groups.io/org/groupsio/Santas-Workshop
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"








Re: Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Sugar
 

LOLOL, right?
Thanks Carlos
Sugar
'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the
night.

Sugar

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Your rehab counselor was quite generous. I couldn't get a damned thing from
mine.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sugar" <sugarsyl71@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:59 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas


Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

On the first day of rehab my counselor gave to me a white cane because
I cannot see.

On the second day of rehab my counselor gave to me two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the third day of rehab my counselor gave to me three Braille Lites,
two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fourth day of rehab my counselor gave to me four talking
clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane
because I cannot see.

On the fifth day of rehab my counselor gave to me five years of
school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the sixth day of rehab my counselor gave to me Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 7th day of rehab my counselor gave to me Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot
see.

On the eighth day of rehab my counselor gave to me eight counselors
counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of
school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the ninth day of rehab my counselor gave to me nine authorizations
for filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six
dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot
see.

On the tenth day of rehab my counselor gave to me ten scanners
reading, nine authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four
talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white
cane because I cannot see.

On the 11th day of rehab my counselor gave to me eleven magnifiers
enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 12th day of rehab my counselor gave to me twelve computers
talking, eleven magnifiers enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine
authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs
applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking
clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane
because I cannot see.

AND I STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB!

"I Rather Walk In Darkness With God, Than To Walk Alone In The Light"
-Sugar

Come and joine me and my busy elves at the North Pole for fun and
tasty Recipes all around, especially for Christmas!:
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/Santas-Workshop







Re: Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Sugar
 

LOL yes do shar..smile

'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the
night.

Sugar

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ron Canazzi
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

That's clever; I'm saving that one to pass on to some others.



On 12/14/2016 3:59 PM, Sugar wrote:
Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

On the first day of rehab my counselor gave to me a white cane because
I cannot see.

On the second day of rehab my counselor gave to me two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the third day of rehab my counselor gave to me three Braille Lites,
two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fourth day of rehab my counselor gave to me four talking
clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane
because I cannot see.

On the fifth day of rehab my counselor gave to me five years of
school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the sixth day of rehab my counselor gave to me Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 7th day of rehab my counselor gave to me Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot
see.

On the eighth day of rehab my counselor gave to me eight counselors
counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of
school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the ninth day of rehab my counselor gave to me nine authorizations
for filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six
dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking clocks, three
Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane because I cannot
see.

On the tenth day of rehab my counselor gave to me ten scanners
reading, nine authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four
talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white
cane because I cannot see.

On the 11th day of rehab my counselor gave to me eleven magnifiers
enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs applying, Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school, four talking clocks, three Braille Lites, two
talking books, and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 12th day of rehab my counselor gave to me twelve computers
talking, eleven magnifiers enlarging, ten scanners reading, nine
authorizations for filling, eight counselors counseling, Seven jobs
applying, Six dogs a-guiding, five years of school, four talking
clocks, three Braille Lites, two talking books, and a white cane
because I cannot see.

AND I STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB!

"I Rather Walk In Darkness With God, Than To Walk Alone In The Light"
-Sugar

Come and joine me and my busy elves at the North Pole for fun and
tasty Recipes all around, especially for Christmas!:
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/Santas-Workshop







--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Ron Canazzi
 

That's clever; I'm saving that one to pass on to some others.

On 12/14/2016 3:59 PM, Sugar wrote:
Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

On the first day of rehab my counselor gave to me
a white cane because I cannot see.

On the second day of rehab my counselor gave to me
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the third day of rehab my counselor gave to me
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fourth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fifth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the sixth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 7th day of rehab my counselor gave to me
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the eighth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the ninth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the tenth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
ten scanners reading,
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 11th day of rehab my counselor gave to me
eleven magnifiers enlarging,
ten scanners reading,
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 12th day of rehab my counselor gave to me
twelve computers talking,
eleven magnifiers enlarging,
ten scanners reading,
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

AND I STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB!

"I Rather Walk In Darkness With God, Than To Walk Alone In The Light"
-Sugar

Come and joine me and my busy elves at the North Pole for fun and tasty
Recipes all around, especially for Christmas!:
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/Santas-Workshop






--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Carlos
 

Your rehab counselor was quite generous. I couldn't get a damned thing from mine.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sugar" <sugarsyl71@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:59 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Sugar's 12 days of Christmas


Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

On the first day of rehab my counselor gave to me
a white cane because I cannot see.

On the second day of rehab my counselor gave to me
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the third day of rehab my counselor gave to me
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fourth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fifth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the sixth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 7th day of rehab my counselor gave to me
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the eighth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the ninth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the tenth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
ten scanners reading,
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 11th day of rehab my counselor gave to me
eleven magnifiers enlarging,
ten scanners reading,
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 12th day of rehab my counselor gave to me
twelve computers talking,
eleven magnifiers enlarging,
ten scanners reading,
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

AND I STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB!

"I Rather Walk In Darkness With God, Than To Walk Alone In The Light"
-Sugar

Come and joine me and my busy elves at the North Pole for fun and tasty
Recipes all around, especially for Christmas!:
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/Santas-Workshop






Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

Sugar
 

Sugar's 12 days of Christmas

On the first day of rehab my counselor gave to me
a white cane because I cannot see.

On the second day of rehab my counselor gave to me
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the third day of rehab my counselor gave to me
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fourth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the fifth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the sixth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 7th day of rehab my counselor gave to me
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the eighth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the ninth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the tenth day of rehab my counselor gave to me
ten scanners reading,
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 11th day of rehab my counselor gave to me
eleven magnifiers enlarging,
ten scanners reading,
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

On the 12th day of rehab my counselor gave to me
twelve computers talking,
eleven magnifiers enlarging,
ten scanners reading,
nine authorizations for filling,
eight counselors counseling,
Seven jobs applying,
Six dogs a-guiding,
five years of school,
four talking clocks,
three Braille Lites,
two talking books,
and a white cane because I cannot see.

AND I STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB!

"I Rather Walk In Darkness With God, Than To Walk Alone In The Light"
-Sugar

Come and joine me and my busy elves at the North Pole for fun and tasty
Recipes all around, especially for Christmas!:
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/Santas-Workshop


outlook.comand wlm

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hi,

 

I have the latest wlm and also an outlook.com email address.

 

Is it possible to configure the outlook.com email address using wlm?

Thanks.

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: off topic, looking for candidates working from home

Sugar
 

Thank you I will find out more info as I speak and write both languages frequently

‘I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the
night.

Sugar

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] off topic, looking for candidates working from home

Yes, I would like to find more work like this, too that's not a scam.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...
Santa Claus has the right idea. Visit people only once a year.
Victor Borge
----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor" <victorelawrence@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] off topic, looking for candidates working from home


It would be a good job for me too, but I don't speak Spanish either. I'd
like to see work from home jobs made available to more of us blind folks.

Victor

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 14, 2016, at 10:48 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

this would be the perfict job fore me except I don't speak spanish
is there any simular jobs that you offer that is work from home?
thanks
Hank

On 12/9/2016 12:03 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the off topic,
We are looking for candidates for customer services positions. These jobs
are going to be working from home, so you don’t need to go anywhere to
work. You can stay at home and at the same time working. These positions
require that the candidate knows how to use computers, and speak/write
English/Spanish.
Below is the job description. If anybody is interested, please send me an
email to:
pmorales@...
Thanks all,
Job Summary
This position is responsible for Receiving, processing and responding to
inbound calls, written letters and emails originated by guests, vendors,
Corporate & Franchise restaurants, media outlets and other entities. On
behalf of Denny’s Corporate, Customer Service Associates must provide
accurate information regarding corporate processes and procedures. If
necessary, routes inquiries/issues to the appropriate person and or
department. Ensures all calls regarding restaurant experiences are
quickly addressed, analyzed and resolved.
Essential Functions (Duties and Responsibilities)
· Responsible for meeting and exceeding Call Center metrics and service
expectations when responding to those who make contact with the Denny’s
Corporate Customer Service department and the Executive Office (CEO
Promise) phone and email queues.
· Answers, researches and resolves inquiries, complaints received
regarding service failures experienced at Denny’s restaurants,
fulfillment requests, credit/gift card issues, service compliments,
general suggestions and comments.
· Acts as Corporate Liaison between guests and various departments
within to ensure third party questions and or problem are properly
addressed.
· Identifies and communicates systemic and recurring service issues to
departmental, Operations and Training Leaders.
· Administers and documents customer satisfaction surveys via phone
conversations for those guests inside of targeted areas of Denny’s
footprint.
· Asks probing questions to gain clarity and use active listening skills
to ensure the guest’s perspective about the issue(s) are identified and
recorded so that the root cause can be determined and addressed by field
leaders.
· Assists restaurant managers in correctly handling service related
issues, including gift card redemption and issuance problems.
· Contacts Franchise Owners, Restaurant Management, Corporate and
Franchise Leaders as necessary to gain additional insight and or to
provide additional information regarding guest incidents.
· Requests additional follow-up from above leaders as necessary when
either a guest requests this specific contact and or he/she is not
completely satisfied with the resolution provided by the Customer Service
Department.
· Provides and processes guests compensation (coupons, paper checks &
gift cards) to ensure that all service issues are resolved and as an
attempt to apologize for the situation and regain the guest’s patronage
in the future.
· Provides guests with a personalized communication in the format of a
handwritten card or experience specific email. This communication
apologizes, offers resolution, outlines the steps that have been taken to
address the issue at the restaurant level and thanks the guests for
making Denny’s Corporate aware.
· Accurately and thoroughly documents all exchanges of communication and
information. Such documentation is frequently requested and used by
Denny’s Legal Department.
· Follows up and follows through on open call summaries, requests,
promises, and questions that have not been answered to provide callers
with a resolution in a timely manner.
· Maintains acceptable workloads and meet or exceed departmental metrics
as outlined by the leadership team.
· Other duties as assigned.

Education & Experience Requirements
· High school diploma or equivalent. Some college preferred.
· 1-3 years of recent experience in a Customer Service support role
(Call Center experience preferred). Computer experience is required
along with an acceptable WPM of at least 30.
Required Knowledge and Skills
· Must be Bilingual in English and Spanish (written and spoken)
· Must have a passion for customer service excellence and have the
desire and drive to serve as the customer’s advocate.
· Excellent written and verbal communication skills.
· Must be able to take and process 60- 80 calls and 20-30 emails per
day.
· Works independently and adjusts to changing priorities and demands
associated with a changing environment.
· Proven analytical and problem solving skills.
· Must be detailed oriented and have the ability to work well under
pressure.
· Must have the ability to listen to internal and external customers and
communicate to all levels of the organization (Managers, Directors, SVP’s,
etc.…).
· Self-motivated and demonstrates positive interpersonal skills.


Re: off topic, looking for candidates working from home

Lisa Belville
 

Yes, I would like to find more work like this, too that's not a scam.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...
Santa Claus has the right idea. Visit people only once a year.
Victor Borge

----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor" <victorelawrence@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] off topic, looking for candidates working from home


It would be a good job for me too, but I don't speak Spanish either. I'd like to see work from home jobs made available to more of us blind folks.

Victor

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 14, 2016, at 10:48 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

this would be the perfict job fore me except I don't speak spanish
is there any simular jobs that you offer that is work from home?
thanks
Hank

On 12/9/2016 12:03 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the off topic,
We are looking for candidates for customer services positions. These jobs are going to be working from home, so you don’t need to go anywhere to work. You can stay at home and at the same time working. These positions require that the candidate knows how to use computers, and speak/write English/Spanish.
Below is the job description. If anybody is interested, please send me an email to:
pmorales@...
Thanks all,
Job Summary
This position is responsible for Receiving, processing and responding to inbound calls, written letters and emails originated by guests, vendors, Corporate & Franchise restaurants, media outlets and other entities. On behalf of Denny’s Corporate, Customer Service Associates must provide accurate information regarding corporate processes and procedures. If necessary, routes inquiries/issues to the appropriate person and or department. Ensures all calls regarding restaurant experiences are quickly addressed, analyzed and resolved.
Essential Functions (Duties and Responsibilities)
· Responsible for meeting and exceeding Call Center metrics and service expectations when responding to those who make contact with the Denny’s Corporate Customer Service department and the Executive Office (CEO Promise) phone and email queues.
· Answers, researches and resolves inquiries, complaints received regarding service failures experienced at Denny’s restaurants, fulfillment requests, credit/gift card issues, service compliments, general suggestions and comments.
· Acts as Corporate Liaison between guests and various departments within to ensure third party questions and or problem are properly addressed.
· Identifies and communicates systemic and recurring service issues to departmental, Operations and Training Leaders.
· Administers and documents customer satisfaction surveys via phone conversations for those guests inside of targeted areas of Denny’s footprint.
· Asks probing questions to gain clarity and use active listening skills to ensure the guest’s perspective about the issue(s) are identified and recorded so that the root cause can be determined and addressed by field leaders.
· Assists restaurant managers in correctly handling service related issues, including gift card redemption and issuance problems.
· Contacts Franchise Owners, Restaurant Management, Corporate and Franchise Leaders as necessary to gain additional insight and or to provide additional information regarding guest incidents.
· Requests additional follow-up from above leaders as necessary when either a guest requests this specific contact and or he/she is not completely satisfied with the resolution provided by the Customer Service Department.
· Provides and processes guests compensation (coupons, paper checks & gift cards) to ensure that all service issues are resolved and as an attempt to apologize for the situation and regain the guest’s patronage in the future.
· Provides guests with a personalized communication in the format of a handwritten card or experience specific email. This communication apologizes, offers resolution, outlines the steps that have been taken to address the issue at the restaurant level and thanks the guests for making Denny’s Corporate aware.
· Accurately and thoroughly documents all exchanges of communication and information. Such documentation is frequently requested and used by Denny’s Legal Department.
· Follows up and follows through on open call summaries, requests, promises, and questions that have not been answered to provide callers with a resolution in a timely manner.
· Maintains acceptable workloads and meet or exceed departmental metrics as outlined by the leadership team.
· Other duties as assigned.

Education & Experience Requirements
· High school diploma or equivalent. Some college preferred.
· 1-3 years of recent experience in a Customer Service support role (Call Center experience preferred). Computer experience is required along with an acceptable WPM of at least 30.
Required Knowledge and Skills
· Must be Bilingual in English and Spanish (written and spoken)
· Must have a passion for customer service excellence and have the desire and drive to serve as the customer’s advocate.
· Excellent written and verbal communication skills.
· Must be able to take and process 60- 80 calls and 20-30 emails per day.
· Works independently and adjusts to changing priorities and demands associated with a changing environment.
· Proven analytical and problem solving skills.
· Must be detailed oriented and have the ability to work well under pressure.
· Must have the ability to listen to internal and external customers and communicate to all levels of the organization (Managers, Directors, SVP’s, etc.…).
· Self-motivated and demonstrates positive interpersonal skills.


Re: off topic, looking for candidates working from home

Victor
 

It would be a good job for me too, but I don't speak Spanish either.  I'd like to see work from home jobs made available to more of us blind folks.

Victor

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 14, 2016, at 10:48 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

this would be the perfict job fore me except I don't speak spanish

is there any simular jobs that you offer that is work from home?
thanks
Hank

On 12/9/2016 12:03 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Hello all,

Sorry for the off topic,

We are looking for candidates for customer services positions. These jobs are going to be working from home, so you don’t need to go anywhere to work. You can stay at home and at the same time working. These positions require that the candidate knows how to use computers, and speak/write  English/Spanish.

Below is the job description. If anybody is interested, please send me an email to:

pmorales@...

Thanks all,

Job Summary

This position is responsible for Receiving, processing and responding to inbound calls, written letters and emails originated by guests, vendors, Corporate & Franchise restaurants, media outlets and other entities.  On behalf of Denny’s Corporate, Customer Service Associates must provide accurate information regarding corporate processes and procedures. If necessary, routes inquiries/issues to the appropriate person and or department.  Ensures all calls regarding restaurant experiences are quickly addressed, analyzed and resolved.

Essential Functions (Duties and Responsibilities)

·  Responsible for meeting and exceeding Call Center metrics and service expectations when responding to those who make contact with the Denny’s Corporate Customer Service department and the Executive Office (CEO Promise) phone and email queues.

·  Answers, researches and resolves inquiries, complaints received regarding service failures experienced at Denny’s restaurants, fulfillment requests, credit/gift card issues, service compliments, general suggestions and comments.

·  Acts as Corporate Liaison between guests and various departments within to ensure third party questions and or problem are properly addressed.  

·  Identifies and communicates systemic and recurring service issues to departmental, Operations and Training Leaders.

·  Administers and documents customer satisfaction surveys via phone conversations for those guests inside of targeted areas of Denny’s footprint.  

·  Asks probing questions to gain clarity and use active listening skills to ensure the guest’s perspective about the issue(s) are identified and recorded so that the root cause can be determined and addressed by field leaders.

·  Assists restaurant managers in correctly handling service related issues, including gift card redemption and issuance problems.

·  Contacts Franchise Owners, Restaurant Management, Corporate and Franchise Leaders as necessary to gain additional insight and or to provide additional information regarding guest incidents.

·  Requests additional follow-up from above leaders as necessary when either a guest requests this specific contact and or he/she is not completely satisfied with the resolution provided by the Customer Service Department.

·  Provides and processes guests compensation (coupons, paper checks & gift cards) to ensure that all service issues are resolved and as an attempt to apologize for the situation and regain the guest’s patronage in the future.

·  Provides guests with a personalized communication in the format of a handwritten card or experience specific email.  This communication apologizes, offers resolution, outlines the steps that have been taken to address the issue at the restaurant level and thanks the guests for making Denny’s Corporate aware.

·  Accurately and thoroughly documents all exchanges of communication and information.  Such documentation is frequently requested and used by Denny’s Legal Department.

·  Follows up and follows through on open call summaries, requests, promises, and questions that have not been answered to provide callers with a resolution in a timely manner.

·  Maintains acceptable workloads and meet or exceed departmental metrics as outlined by the leadership team.

·  Other duties as assigned.

 

Education & Experience Requirements

·  High school diploma or equivalent.  Some college preferred.

·  1-3 years of recent experience in a Customer Service support role (Call Center experience preferred).  Computer experience is required along with an acceptable WPM of at least 30.

Required Knowledge and Skills

·  Must be Bilingual in English and Spanish (written and spoken)

·  Must have a passion for customer service excellence and have the desire and drive to serve as the customer’s advocate.

·  Excellent written and verbal communication skills.

·  Must be able to take and process 60- 80 calls and 20-30 emails per day.

·  Works independently and adjusts to changing priorities and demands associated with a changing environment.

·  Proven analytical and problem solving skills.

·  Must be detailed oriented and have the ability to work well under pressure.

·  Must have the ability to listen to internal and external customers and communicate to all levels of the organization (Managers, Directors, SVP’s, etc.…).

·  Self-motivated and demonstrates positive interpersonal skills.

 



Re: off topic, looking for candidates working from home

 

this would be the perfict job fore me except I don't speak spanish

is there any simular jobs that you offer that is work from home?
thanks
Hank

On 12/9/2016 12:03 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Hello all,

Sorry for the off topic,

We are looking for candidates for customer services positions. These jobs are going to be working from home, so you don’t need to go anywhere to work. You can stay at home and at the same time working. These positions require that the candidate knows how to use computers, and speak/write  English/Spanish.

Below is the job description. If anybody is interested, please send me an email to:

pmorales@...

Thanks all,

Job Summary

This position is responsible for Receiving, processing and responding to inbound calls, written letters and emails originated by guests, vendors, Corporate & Franchise restaurants, media outlets and other entities.  On behalf of Denny’s Corporate, Customer Service Associates must provide accurate information regarding corporate processes and procedures. If necessary, routes inquiries/issues to the appropriate person and or department.  Ensures all calls regarding restaurant experiences are quickly addressed, analyzed and resolved.

Essential Functions (Duties and Responsibilities)

·  Responsible for meeting and exceeding Call Center metrics and service expectations when responding to those who make contact with the Denny’s Corporate Customer Service department and the Executive Office (CEO Promise) phone and email queues.

·  Answers, researches and resolves inquiries, complaints received regarding service failures experienced at Denny’s restaurants, fulfillment requests, credit/gift card issues, service compliments, general suggestions and comments.

·  Acts as Corporate Liaison between guests and various departments within to ensure third party questions and or problem are properly addressed.  

·  Identifies and communicates systemic and recurring service issues to departmental, Operations and Training Leaders.

·  Administers and documents customer satisfaction surveys via phone conversations for those guests inside of targeted areas of Denny’s footprint.  

·  Asks probing questions to gain clarity and use active listening skills to ensure the guest’s perspective about the issue(s) are identified and recorded so that the root cause can be determined and addressed by field leaders.

·  Assists restaurant managers in correctly handling service related issues, including gift card redemption and issuance problems.

·  Contacts Franchise Owners, Restaurant Management, Corporate and Franchise Leaders as necessary to gain additional insight and or to provide additional information regarding guest incidents.

·  Requests additional follow-up from above leaders as necessary when either a guest requests this specific contact and or he/she is not completely satisfied with the resolution provided by the Customer Service Department.

·  Provides and processes guests compensation (coupons, paper checks & gift cards) to ensure that all service issues are resolved and as an attempt to apologize for the situation and regain the guest’s patronage in the future.

·  Provides guests with a personalized communication in the format of a handwritten card or experience specific email.  This communication apologizes, offers resolution, outlines the steps that have been taken to address the issue at the restaurant level and thanks the guests for making Denny’s Corporate aware.

·  Accurately and thoroughly documents all exchanges of communication and information.  Such documentation is frequently requested and used by Denny’s Legal Department.

·  Follows up and follows through on open call summaries, requests, promises, and questions that have not been answered to provide callers with a resolution in a timely manner.

·  Maintains acceptable workloads and meet or exceed departmental metrics as outlined by the leadership team.

·  Other duties as assigned.

 

Education & Experience Requirements

·  High school diploma or equivalent.  Some college preferred.

·  1-3 years of recent experience in a Customer Service support role (Call Center experience preferred).  Computer experience is required along with an acceptable WPM of at least 30.

Required Knowledge and Skills

·  Must be Bilingual in English and Spanish (written and spoken)

·  Must have a passion for customer service excellence and have the desire and drive to serve as the customer’s advocate.

·  Excellent written and verbal communication skills.

·  Must be able to take and process 60- 80 calls and 20-30 emails per day.

·  Works independently and adjusts to changing priorities and demands associated with a changing environment.

·  Proven analytical and problem solving skills.

·  Must be detailed oriented and have the ability to work well under pressure.

·  Must have the ability to listen to internal and external customers and communicate to all levels of the organization (Managers, Directors, SVP’s, etc.…).

·  Self-motivated and demonstrates positive interpersonal skills.

 



Re: Question about iPhone stand for using KNFB reader

Lisa Belville
 

Hi. I also have a StandScan and it makes getting a scan on the first try very easy. It's a box that's enclosed on the back and sides with the top part of the box complete except for a small hole on top. This hole can be lined up with your phone's back facing camera so that the paper is in focus. The LED lights are bright, but they are attached to all three sides of the inside of the box so you don't need to look directly at them. You don't have to use them, but it makes it easy to know whether or not enough light is present to get a good scan.

I've used it with the KNFB reader and with Text Grabber. I've found that what one app doesn't scan well, the other one does.

I use both apps free hand, but if I'm in a hurry or if I need accuracy and speed, I'll use the StandScan.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...
Santa Claus has the right idea. Visit people only once a year.
Victor Borge

----- Original Message -----
From: "TerriLynne Pomeroy" <tl1@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about iPhone stand for using KNFB reader


Have you noticed a significant difference?



TerriLynne



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Allen West
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:06 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about iPhone stand for using KNFB reader



I use the Stand Scan. It's very fold down into the size of a sheet of paper and weighs next to nothing. It also has lights inside the box in case you need light for better OCR. I bought it from:



www.standscan.com



Allen

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 9:09 PM, TerriLynne Pomeroy <tl1@...> wrote:

I am looking for a stand which will improve the use of the KNFB reader on a smart phone. I’m hoping people will tell me what they have used, what they like or don’t like, and where I can get the stand if you really like it.



Thanks much,



TerriLynne


Re: Question about iPhone stand for using KNFB reader

TerriLynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
 

Have you noticed a significant difference?

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Allen West
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:06 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about iPhone stand for using KNFB reader

 

I use the Stand Scan. It's very fold down into the size of a sheet of paper and weighs next to nothing. It also has lights inside the box in case you need light for better OCR. I bought it from:

 

 

Allen

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 9:09 PM, TerriLynne Pomeroy <tl1@...> wrote:

I am looking for a stand which will improve the use of the KNFB reader on a smart phone. I’m hoping people will tell me what they have used, what they like or don’t like, and where I can get the stand if you really like it.

 

Thanks much,

 

TerriLynne


Re: youtube video about the man driving in the google car

Carolyn Arnold
 

This video was in Santa Clara, California. The guy driving
by himself was in Austin, Texas.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] youtube video about the man driving
in the google car

Yes, it doesn't match what was described in the article
which claims he was driving around and operating the vehicle
by himself. Perhaps this video is not the incident
mentioned in the article.

----- Original Message -----
From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] youtube video about the man
driving in the google car


What is annoying about this video is that first of
all, the driver has passengers. Are they helping him? It
doesn't show, or at least, if it does, it isn't spoken, who
is inputting the instructions and how they ard doing it. I
mean, the car didn't just go to the taco place through the
thought process, right?



TerriLynne



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] youtube video about the man
driving in the google car



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peDy2st2XpQ


Re: youtube video about the man driving in the google car

Carolyn Arnold
 

I am thinking that if I drove a self driving car, I would
want full descriptive GPS talking me across town, a la
Carthage, when we come to the first stop sign; Horner
Boulevard, when we come to the next right. Right on Horner
Boulevard, as I am driving to my Pigley Wigley store.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of TerriLynne
Pomeroy
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] youtube video about the man driving
in the google car

What is annoying about this video is that first of all, the
driver has passengers. Are they helping him? It doesn't
show, or at least, if it does, it isn't spoken, who is
inputting the instructions and how they ard doing it. I
mean, the car didn't just go to the taco place through the
thought process, right?



TerriLynne



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] youtube video about the man driving in
the google car



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peDy2st2XpQ


Re: Article: Michigan Legalizes Consumer Sales Of Self-Driving Vehicles (No Steering Wheels Or Pedals Required) #article

Carolyn Arnold
 

I use it when I want to check temperature, answer a call, whenever. Yes, for the most part, I do use the feature phone. I stil use Siri some for Google, when not at a computer. Also I use the timer and reminder features.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:19 PM
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You are using one now? I remember you had gotten one and let your husband have it and gotten a feature phone. Pam.

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From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:08 PM
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I can use an iPhone too, and my daughter-in-law calls me Techy Grandma, since I text back and forth to them, while her parents (both sighted), my age, do not at all.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:08 PM
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But, does this also apply to blind ‘seniors’?

Whilst it may be the case in America that ‘just about every blind person’
one knows, has a smart phone, it isn’t necessarily true in other developed countries. In Ireland, certainly a good majority do own and use smart phones. But there are those (say over 50’s) who don’t, or can’t get their heads around using them, not having the confidence or aptitude, or due to a lack of experienced fellow users in their localities. BTW, that said, I’m over 50 myself, and I have no trouble using an iPhone!

From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Michigan Legalizes Consumer Sales Of Self-Driving Vehicles (No Steering Wheels Or Pedals Required) I agree.
Although I don't have any statistics to support my impression, just about every blind person I know directly or am aware of owns a smart phone of some kind.

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From: Matt <mailto:matt.from.florida@...>
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I totally disagree with this I think there is a lot of blind people with smart phones and most don’t find them too hard to operate. Not that there is not some that would rather have a simple phone. That is their choice. You realize Uber does not have a phone number to call like taxi company. Uber is all just normal regular people doing a side job and not necessary doing this as a living. I sure there is some that is doing it full time . But it is their vehicle and their time . It not like a taxi company. Now I sure if you have a favorite Uber driver he or she might give you her or his cell phone so you could call them when you needed them. If you was a regular good paying customer.





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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 6:37 AM
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But Uber is already engaging in a form of discrimination because they require customers to own a smart phone in order to book a ride, and most blind folks do not own smart phones because they either cannot afford them or else find them too difficult to learn and operate.



Gerald







From: Matt <mailto:matt.from.florida@...>

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Well it was not that long ago less than 8 years ago they updated the ADA.
But yes it could use some more updating. But I don’t know what the ADA would have to do with Uber or taxies other than we have access to other. Another words you cannot be denied to ride in one because you are blind or have your Gide animal with you or whatever your service animal might be or might be far.





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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 7:38 PM
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ADA was written decades ago, when in United States the technology today available was science fiction.

We need to update our legal framework, technology moves faster than representatives and senators. Look UBER, in several places they don’t know what to do with uber. New York has been trying to handle UBER in the same way how they handle taxi companies. NY makes money with the licenses that the city provide to taxi drivers. Now they are losing money.

Look the bunches of holes in ADA related with the online education. That law is written when the only way to take classes was in a class room. Like this, are many other examples.









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchel
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 7:23 PM
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I beg to differ. it did have something to do with ADA as I was not being allowed to have it in my name because I was blind. no other reason whatsoever but blindness. it was simple enough to challenge and remind the state that I have every legal right to own a vehicle.





From: Matt

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:15 PM

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Well that is true and this really owning a vehicle in your name has nothing to do with ADA at all. Only if you are driving one . In the case of being blind we are not allowed to drive one as of now. Now other disabilities is different. Say like people in a wheel chair or people with hearing loss and so on. They can drive cars as long as they can see and it can be adapted to be driven safe. This is where the complete automatic car comes in with no steering wheel or peddles to us as this would not matter then if you could see or not. As you would never have any kind of control over the vehicle.
But ones with steering wheels and peddles and an override button would be different as this would allow you to disengage the automatic function and this would be a bad thing for us. Unless this was somehow was able to tell if you was a seeing person or not and then lock you out of that function. I assume maybe they would have it so you put in your DL if visual and if not then you would skip this step and you would be locked out of taking over.





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Matt.from.florida@... <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchel
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that was what I had to remind them of. the ADA and it does not matter if I own it as long as I do not drive it.



From: Matt

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 3:27 PM

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Well they cannot as far as I know in any state stop you from owning a vehicle. This would be demonstrating against us. You should be able to be the only one on the title. If they tell you different I think they would be wrong. But I sure each state has their own laws about this. Here in Florida it is no problem to be the only one on the title as long as you have a desnated driver and insurance. Now a DL is a total different thing.





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Matt.from.florida@... <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchel
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 6:14 PM
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several years ago I had to fight to have only my name on the title. I did win that fight.



From: Matt

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:41 PM

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Yes you can hear in Florida as well and most all states . there is a different in owning one and driving it or having control of it in the car.
You can own one but you cannot drive one!





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Matt.from.florida@... <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchel
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I doubt I’ll run out and get one anyway, but sure would be interested in it.

I am going to guess they are going to be out of a lot of our price ranges.

I do know that in Washington blind people can own a vehicle. I do. lol



From: Carlos

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:27 PM

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I don't really have a good idea about cost, but based on most of the articles I have read, this capability should not significantly impact the cost since they are using existing off the shelf technology as much as possible.

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From: Dave Mitchel

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Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 5:15 PM

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I am in rural Washington and think it would be more accepted in rural areas way before urban areas. I know a lot of the smaller towns already allow ATV’s to use the town streets. I could do so much right here in town I could care less if I ever was able to use it to get to another state or town.

any word of cost?





From: Matt

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 1:32 PM

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Well yes I think that the more liberal (blue ) states and then the mix (purple ) states will come on board first. I think most of the conservative states (red ) states will be the later states to come on board. But while this is all nice I also think this will be in the more heavy populated area that you see them and then they will at some point spread on out.

Now this being said it will I think still be a long time before I think a blind person will be allowed to have a driver licensing to drive one of these cars. The nice thing about it no steering wheel means no one can drive it. So with that the ones with no steering wheel I think we will come closer to being able to have one and ride in it by our self. I think it will be different for those that have a steering wheel.

The one that is completely and totally automatic with no steering wheel I see no reason to deny us.

But the thing is this is for this state . So it might be legal for Michigan it will not be legal for other states . so then you will not be able to drive across state line. This is good start but till it becomes a national law to have and drive these in all states it would be a burden for some.

Now like me more than likely I would never leave my state so it would be fine. But I think Florida is going to be on the later end of this. As they are a very red state. But maybe not they might get on board as a safety issue. I just hope I not too dam old when it comes a national thing to be able to own and have a total automatic car that you can drive anywhere in the USA. I would be happy to have it like just my state legal to buy own and use one in my state. Since it would be total automatic with no steering wheel or peddles then I cannot see them denying us over our seeing partners as neither one would have any more control then the other. JST!





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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchel
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 1:48 PM
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oh wow. this article did bring up something I never thought about: the misbehaving passengers. what will people do when there is no driver?

has anyone ever heard a price on the low end no driver cars?





From: Carlos

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:37 AM

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Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Michigan Legalizes Consumer Sales Of Self-Driving Vehicles (No Steering Wheels Or Pedals Required)



And the progress continues.

https://cleantechnica.com/2016/12/10/michigan-legalizes-consumer-sales-self-driving-vehicles-no-steering-wheels-pedals-required/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+IM-cleantechnica+%28CleanTechnica%29










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