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Re: disabling the mouse drivers

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

so in these cases, what can be done, please?

On 23/12/2016 1:45 AM, Carlos wrote:
Yes some devices do not have the "Disable" option.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Hi Mike,
Yep, windows-x, device manager, tab once, get to mouse, expand it, down arrow to the driver, context menu key (if applicable) and disable. But no disable option here.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mwb5781@charter.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:36 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Hi Rajmund,

Go to the Device Manager via the control panel. Or, try Windows key + Pause key, then tab to, Device Manager, press enter, & tab 1 time into the Tree Biew. This is how I get there with Windows7, & hope you can get there with these steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Hi Mike,
If I go through the device manager, from the context menu, is that the same device manager? Because if yes, there's no disable driver. It's a Samsung specific, my HP did use the same which Gene has, but can't recall it's name right now.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mwb5781@charter.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:53 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Hi Rajmund,

Approach 2 - Device Manager

Open the Control Panel, then go to System > Device Manager.
Navigate to > the Mouse Option, right click on it, and click Disable.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- > From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Is disabling it through the device manager, the one through mouse settings, or the one, which you access through windows-x?



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:27 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Also, which method in that article did you try? There were
several > > described and disabling it in Device Manager should usually work and > > be retained between reboots.
----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Look in the system tray for whatever is relevant. I did this a
long > > time ago on my Windows 7 machine. I don't know if you will see a > > specific item for your touch pad or something more general but I > > believe you will see something for your touch pad. Open the item and > > look for the relevant setting. that will probably work.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Oh, while I'm at it, any ideas about this one? I can disable the mouse driver no problem, and I hit apply, and everything, but
the > > next time I reboot, the driver reactivates. What's happening here, > > and more importantly, how do I, for once and all, stop this crap from > > keep reenabling itself? While writing my TB error, I lost focus 3 > > damn times. This should, according to google, work. > > http://www.howtogeek.com/220149/how-do-you-permanently-disable-the-touchpad-on-a-laptop/
Except that it doesn't, I presume because am on windows 8.1,
latest > > NVDA. Oh, it's Samsung, already had troubles with the f keys having > > unusual functions, so wouldn't be surprised, if this has a trick, > > too.

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Re: disabling the mouse drivers

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Howdy Rajmund,
Well now, don't that just suck?!
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers

Hi Mike,
Yep, windows-x, device manager, tab once, get to mouse, expand it, down arrow to the driver, context menu key (if applicable) and disable. But no disable option here.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:36 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers

>
>
> Hi Rajmund,

> Go to the Device Manager via the control panel.  Or, try Windows key + Pause key, then tab to, Device Manager, press enter, & tab 1 time into the Tree Biew.  This is how I get there with Windows7, & hope you can get there with these steps.
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rajmund
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
>
>
> Hi Mike,
> If I go through the device manager, from the context menu, is that the same device manager? Because if yes, there's no disable driver. It's a Samsung specific, my HP did use the same which Gene has, but can't recall it's name right now.
>
>
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:53 am
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Rajmund,
> > 
> > Approach 2 - Device Manager
> > 
> > Open the Control Panel, then go to System > Device Manager. Navigate to the Mouse Option, right click on it, and click Disable.
> > 
> > Take care.
> > Mike
> > Sent from my iBarstool.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rajmund
> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
> >
> >
> > Is disabling it through the device manager,  the one through mouse settings, or the one, which you access through windows-x?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Carlos  <carlos1106@...>
> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:27 am
> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, which method in that article did you try?  There were several described and disabling it in Device Manager should usually work and be retained between reboots.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gene
> > > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
> > >
> > >
> > > Look in the system tray for whatever is relevant.  I did this a long time ago on my Windows 7 machine.  I don't know if you will see a specific item for your touch pad or something more general but I believe you will see something for your touch pad.  Open the item and look for the relevant setting.  that will probably work. 
> > > 
> > > gene
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: Rajmund
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:01 PM
> > > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > > Subject: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, while I'm at it, any ideas about this one? I can disable the mouse driver no problem, and I hit apply, and everything, but the next time I reboot, the driver reactivates. What's happening here, and more importantly, how do I, for once and all, stop this crap from keep reenabling itself? While writing my TB error, I lost focus 3 damn times. This should, according to google, work. http://www.howtogeek.com/220149/how-do-you-permanently-disable-the-touchpad-on-a-laptop/
> > > Except that it doesn't, I presume because am on windows 8.1, latest NVDA. Oh, it's Samsung, already had troubles with the f keys having unusual functions, so wouldn't be surprised, if this has a trick,  too.
> > >
> > > Sent from a Braille Sense
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: Any recommendations on pc support.

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you mean by I should know this myself.  Of course, blind people can receive training in independent living skilss.  but I wouldn't assume that that training comes from vocational rehabilitation.  I received independent living training a long time ago but I don't recall what department provided it.  I went to the agency and I believe I signed up with the agency itself.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

Gene,

Referring to the email I sent out, no this is not related to my work, but it is related to living independently.  The department of rehab where I live does not only serve people who are a student or who are employed.  Blind people do live independently, and you should know this yourself.  I can schedule an appointment with a tech volunteer to meet at their office, and learn about a computer or an iPhone.  This service is free.  If I need more extensive training, the department of rehab will open my case as they would do for anyone because this is the service they provide.  It is called independent living skills.  Where the computer comes in is: people do need a computer to shop online, pay bills online, manage accounts online and other business accounts online, communicate through email, fill out forms online, check personal status online, refill meds online, look up important and personal info online, schedule appointments online, schedule deliveries online, read mail and etc.  It is the same as rehab providing mobility lessons, and not only if the person is a student or employed. 

This is very understandable! 

Janet    

 .   

 

 

Tomorrow's Another Day, Another Way, and If Tomorrow Never Comes, Problem Solved!  

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

 

But is your learning related to your work?  That would be understandable. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Janet Gross

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:27 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

 

Hi Carolyn,
I just realized I  think  I must be fortunate because where I live, I can call blind techy volunteers for an appointment who will help me to learn what I might want to learn on the computer or iPhone.  If I need more tech help, I can call the department of rehab, and they will open a case for me to go to get more extensive computer training.  
Janet


Tomorrow's Another Day, Another Way, and If Tomorrow Never Comes, Problem Solved!  


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

And, they are not set up to contract for us, should we be able or willing to pay for a specific service or for services.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

That’s not what happens in the real world.  When you are a client, the state is paying the agency to train you and do all they are supposedly supposed to.  When you are no longer a client, there is no money coming there way concerning you.  So, they couldn’t care less!  Pam.
 
From: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 5:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.
 
 
I strongly disagree.  A blindness rehab agency should go out of its way to help a blind computer user who requests technical assistance, even if he is not a client.  I wouldn’t expect their technology specialist to visit my home or spend a lot of time over the phone trying to resolve my problem.  But it is not unreasonable for them to at least recommend a reputable local service technician who is familiar with screen reader software and other issues relevant to blind computer users. After all, if you can’t get help from a blindness agency, where else can you turn?  
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.
 
There is no reason for rehab to help people who are not clients.  I don't mind reasonable criticism of rehab agencies but this is not reasonable.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: The Wolf <mailto:hank.smith966@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.
 

thats voac rehab fore you totally useless



On 12/21/2016 2:30 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:



In my experience, contacting a blindness rehab agency and asking one of their technology trainers for help is usually fruitless unless you have an open case with them.  A few years ago when my old XP computer died I tried contacting the technology trainer at the rehab center who had originally set it up for me in my apartment a few years earlier when I was still working with them, but he ignored my pleas for help.  I even contacted their director of community services and was basically told to take a hike because they could not offer any assistance or even recommend a knowledgeable service technician unless I had an open case.  Thank goodness my techie friend was able to bail me out.

Gerald



From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

Hello andrew, it is good to know that your computers up and working again. You're us in for future support I'm trying to get things fixed eventually, I would recommend looking at Best Buy or Staples or a local computer shop in your area. If it is blindness related, I would see is there any blindness trainers in your area, dad have interest in maybe helping fix your problems. Any of the services that I've mentioned above Will cost but very well worth it in the end. If you don't know how to find a good blemish related trainer in your area, I would looking contacting your local dollars office.. offers anything through it's office.


On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Andrew <edrew@... <mailto:edrew@...> > wrote:

Hi Carlos and all, I’m asking this because I recently made a call to ms accessability help desk.
I needed help updating my security update for my Office 2010.
I really nice lady helped me but, made no headway. I was sent to escalation. The fellow thought uninstalling my Outlook 2010 would solve this.. He was wrong! It was not a good thing at all. They did more harm than good. With the help of friends, my pc has returned back to somewhat normal. My Outlook 2010 remains fobar.  BTW Merry Christmas to everyone! Ho, Ho, Ho
Andrew




No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
Version: 2016.0.7924 / Virus Database: 4739/13630 - Release Date: 12/21/16









Re: disabling the mouse drivers

Carlos
 

Yes some devices do not have the "Disable" option.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Hi Mike,
Yep, windows-x, device manager, tab once, get to mouse, expand it, down arrow to the driver, context menu key (if applicable) and disable. But no disable option here.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mwb5781@charter.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:36 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Hi Rajmund,

Go to the Device Manager via the control panel. Or, try Windows key + Pause key, then tab to, Device Manager, press enter, & tab 1 time into the Tree Biew. This is how I get there with Windows7, & hope you can get there with these steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Hi Mike,
If I go through the device manager, from the context menu, is that the same device manager? Because if yes, there's no disable driver. It's a Samsung specific, my HP did use the same which Gene has, but can't recall it's name right now.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mwb5781@charter.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:53 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Hi Rajmund,

Approach 2 - Device Manager

Open the Control Panel, then go to System > Device Manager. Navigate to the Mouse Option, right click on it, and click Disable.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Is disabling it through the device manager, the one through mouse settings, or the one, which you access through windows-x?



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:27 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Also, which method in that article did you try? There were several described and disabling it in Device Manager should usually work and be retained between reboots.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Look in the system tray for whatever is relevant. I did this a long time ago on my Windows 7 machine. I don't know if you will see a specific item for your touch pad or something more general but I believe you will see something for your touch pad. Open the item and look for the relevant setting. that will probably work.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Oh, while I'm at it, any ideas about this one? I can disable the mouse driver no problem, and I hit apply, and everything, but the next time I reboot, the driver reactivates. What's happening here, and more importantly, how do I, for once and all, stop this crap from keep reenabling itself? While writing my TB error, I lost focus 3 damn times. This should, according to google, work. http://www.howtogeek.com/220149/how-do-you-permanently-disable-the-touchpad-on-a-laptop/
Except that it doesn't, I presume because am on windows 8.1, latest NVDA. Oh, it's Samsung, already had troubles with the f keys having unusual functions, so wouldn't be surprised, if this has a trick, too.

Sent from a Braille Sense










Re: disabling the mouse drivers

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi Mike,
Yep, windows-x, device manager, tab once, get to mouse, expand it, down arrow to the driver, context menu key (if applicable) and disable. But no disable option here.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mwb5781@charter.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:36 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Hi Rajmund,

Go to the Device Manager via the control panel. Or, try Windows key + Pause key, then tab to, Device Manager, press enter, & tab 1 time into the Tree Biew. This is how I get there with Windows7, & hope you can get there with these steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Hi Mike,
If I go through the device manager, from the context menu, is that the same device manager? Because if yes, there's no disable driver. It's a Samsung specific, my HP did use the same which Gene has, but can't recall it's name right now.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mwb5781@charter.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:53 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Hi Rajmund,

Approach 2 - Device Manager

Open the Control Panel, then go to System > Device Manager. Navigate to the Mouse Option, right click on it, and click Disable.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Is disabling it through the device manager, the one through mouse settings, or the one, which you access through windows-x?



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:27 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Also, which method in that article did you try? There were several described and disabling it in Device Manager should usually work and be retained between reboots.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Look in the system tray for whatever is relevant. I did this a long time ago on my Windows 7 machine. I don't know if you will see a specific item for your touch pad or something more general but I believe you will see something for your touch pad. Open the item and look for the relevant setting. that will probably work.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Oh, while I'm at it, any ideas about this one? I can disable the mouse driver no problem, and I hit apply, and everything, but the next time I reboot, the driver reactivates. What's happening here, and more importantly, how do I, for once and all, stop this crap from keep reenabling itself? While writing my TB error, I lost focus 3 damn times. This should, according to google, work. http://www.howtogeek.com/220149/how-do-you-permanently-disable-the-touchpad-on-a-laptop/
Except that it doesn't, I presume because am on windows 8.1, latest NVDA. Oh, it's Samsung, already had troubles with the f keys having unusual functions, so wouldn't be surprised, if this has a trick, too.

Sent from a Braille Sense










Re: thundervird annoying messsage

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello Gene,
The link I sent, did file it as a bug, yes. But it was from 2 years ago. So not sure. It would certainly worth for someone to test it, if they can.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:22 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage



I said what I did because you said it might be a bug and the bug might not be present in older versions. I don't know if it is a bug but I was commenting on the possibility that it might be. I don't know if using an older version might solve the problem for those who may not be able to solve it as you did.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage


Hi Gene,
But would using an older version stop the box from appearing? I've fixed it for now, but still curious. I did use one, my portable version was 24 something LOL.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:56 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage



I've said in the past, perhaps not on this list that, if all someone wants to use Thunderbird for is e-mail, I see no reason to use the most current version. I would imagine there are old versions available from the Thunderbird part of the site somewhere and perhaps from sites like old version.

If you use a version that is not current, you must tell the program not to automatically update. Change this setting before using the program on line. Disconnecting your computer from the internet before opening the program and looking for and changing the setting might be a good idea.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgiid=990873
WINDOWS 8 on there, too. As a matter of interest, I also went into tools, options, general, advanced, and the show check box on start up is disabled.. I only have one more fix before I give up, get a portable version...



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----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:42 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage



I would also be interested in a fix


On 12/22/2016 4:50 PM, Rajmund wrote:
hello, any ideas about the following message, please? TB is already
the default client....
System Integration dialog Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for: list
Newsgroups check box not checked 2 of 3
Newsgroups
Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird check box not
checked Alt+A
Set as Default button

It comes every time I start it...









Re: disabling the mouse drivers

Mike B. <mwb5781@...>
 

Hi Rajmund,
 
Go to the Device Manager via the control panel.  Or, try Windows key + Pause key, then tab to, Device Manager, press enter, & tab 1 time into the Tree Biew.  This is how I get there with Windows7, & hope you can get there with these steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers

Hi Mike,
If I go through the device manager, from the context menu, is that the same device manager? Because if yes, there's no disable driver. It's a Samsung specific, my HP did use the same which Gene has, but can't recall it's name right now.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:53 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers

>
>
> Hi Rajmund,

> Approach 2 - Device Manager

> Open the Control Panel, then go to System > Device Manager. Navigate to the Mouse Option, right click on it, and click Disable.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rajmund
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
>
>
> Is disabling it through the device manager,  the one through mouse settings, or the one, which you access through windows-x?
>
>
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carlos  <carlos1106@...>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:27 am
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
>
> >
> >
> > Also, which method in that article did you try?  There were several described and disabling it in Device Manager should usually work and be retained between reboots.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gene
> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
> >
> >
> > Look in the system tray for whatever is relevant.  I did this a long time ago on my Windows 7 machine.  I don't know if you will see a specific item for your touch pad or something more general but I believe you will see something for your touch pad.  Open the item and look for the relevant setting.  that will probably work. 
> > 
> > gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: Rajmund
> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:01 PM
> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > Subject: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
> >
> >
> > Oh, while I'm at it, any ideas about this one? I can disable the mouse driver no problem, and I hit apply, and everything, but the next time I reboot, the driver reactivates. What's happening here, and more importantly, how do I, for once and all, stop this crap from keep reenabling itself? While writing my TB error, I lost focus 3 damn times. This should, according to google, work. http://www.howtogeek.com/220149/how-do-you-permanently-disable-the-touchpad-on-a-laptop/
> > Except that it doesn't, I presume because am on windows 8.1, latest NVDA. Oh, it's Samsung, already had troubles with the f keys having unusual functions, so wouldn't be surprised, if this has a trick,  too.
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



Re: disabling the mouse drivers

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

With this article, I managed to disable it till I reboot. Am still missing something, but what, please?
http://support-us.samsung.com/cyber/popup/iframe/pop_troubleshooting_fr.jspidx=419310&modelname=NP-NC10+%3Fiframe%3Dtrue&from_osc=



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:49 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



You may not have the system tray set to show all icons or there may be some sort of overflow icon you need to click. I don't know how the system tray is set up in your version of windows. I don't know what you would see but my Toshiba Windows 7 computer has an item in the system tray named synaptics pointing device.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Stupid question, but how do you access the system tray? I always just went through the notification area, and if that is where you mean, where it shows WIFI, battery, time, there's no mouse option around that area.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:23 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Look in the system tray for whatever is relevant. I did this a long time ago on my Windows 7 machine. I don't know if you will see a specific item for your touch pad or something more general but I believe you will see something for your touch pad. Open the item and look for the relevant setting. that will probably work.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Oh, while I'm at it, any ideas about this one? I can disable the mouse driver no problem, and I hit apply, and everything, but the next time I reboot, the driver reactivates. What's happening here, and more importantly, how do I, for once and all, stop this crap from keep reenabling itself? While writing my TB error, I lost focus 3 damn times. This should, according to google, work. http://www.howtogeek.com/220149/how-do-you-permanently-disable-the-touchpad-on-a-laptop/
Except that it doesn't, I presume because am on windows 8.1, latest NVDA. Oh, it's Samsung, already had troubles with the f keys having unusual functions, so wouldn't be surprised, if this has a trick, too.

Sent from a Braille Sense








Re: Any recommendations on pc support.

Carlos
 


Also, will they provide technical support if you're experiencing problems with a computer or other devices?  That was the original issue being discussed.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

Gene,

Referring to the email I sent out, no this is not related to my work, but it is related to living independently.  The department of rehab where I live does not only serve people who are a student or who are employed.  Blind people do live independently, and you should know this yourself.  I can schedule an appointment with a tech volunteer to meet at their office, and learn about a computer or an iPhone.  This service is free.  If I need more extensive training, the department of rehab will open my case as they would do for anyone because this is the service they provide.  It is called independent living skills.  Where the computer comes in is: people do need a computer to shop online, pay bills online, manage accounts online and other business accounts online, communicate through email, fill out forms online, check personal status online, refill meds online, look up important and personal info online, schedule appointments online, schedule deliveries online, read mail and etc.  It is the same as rehab providing mobility lessons, and not only if the person is a student or employed. 

This is very understandable! 

Janet    

 .   

 

 

Tomorrow's Another Day, Another Way, and If Tomorrow Never Comes, Problem Solved!  

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

 

But is your learning related to your work?  That would be understandable. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Janet Gross

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:27 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

 

Hi Carolyn,
I just realized I  think  I must be fortunate because where I live, I can call blind techy volunteers for an appointment who will help me to learn what I might want to learn on the computer or iPhone.  If I need more tech help, I can call the department of rehab, and they will open a case for me to go to get more extensive computer training.  
Janet


Tomorrow's Another Day, Another Way, and If Tomorrow Never Comes, Problem Solved!  


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

And, they are not set up to contract for us, should we be able or willing to pay for a specific service or for services.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

That’s not what happens in the real world.  When you are a client, the state is paying the agency to train you and do all they are supposedly supposed to.  When you are no longer a client, there is no money coming there way concerning you.  So, they couldn’t care less!  Pam.
 
From: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 5:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.
 
 
I strongly disagree.  A blindness rehab agency should go out of its way to help a blind computer user who requests technical assistance, even if he is not a client.  I wouldn’t expect their technology specialist to visit my home or spend a lot of time over the phone trying to resolve my problem.  But it is not unreasonable for them to at least recommend a reputable local service technician who is familiar with screen reader software and other issues relevant to blind computer users. After all, if you can’t get help from a blindness agency, where else can you turn?  
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.
 
There is no reason for rehab to help people who are not clients.  I don't mind reasonable criticism of rehab agencies but this is not reasonable.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: The Wolf <mailto:hank.smith966@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.
 

thats voac rehab fore you totally useless



On 12/21/2016 2:30 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:



In my experience, contacting a blindness rehab agency and asking one of their technology trainers for help is usually fruitless unless you have an open case with them.  A few years ago when my old XP computer died I tried contacting the technology trainer at the rehab center who had originally set it up for me in my apartment a few years earlier when I was still working with them, but he ignored my pleas for help.  I even contacted their director of community services and was basically told to take a hike because they could not offer any assistance or even recommend a knowledgeable service technician unless I had an open case.  Thank goodness my techie friend was able to bail me out.

Gerald



From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

Hello andrew, it is good to know that your computers up and working again. You're us in for future support I'm trying to get things fixed eventually, I would recommend looking at Best Buy or Staples or a local computer shop in your area. If it is blindness related, I would see is there any blindness trainers in your area, dad have interest in maybe helping fix your problems. Any of the services that I've mentioned above Will cost but very well worth it in the end. If you don't know how to find a good blemish related trainer in your area, I would looking contacting your local dollars office.. offers anything through it's office.


On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Andrew <edrew@... <mailto:edrew@...> > wrote:

Hi Carlos and all, I’m asking this because I recently made a call to ms accessability help desk.
I needed help updating my security update for my Office 2010.
I really nice lady helped me but, made no headway. I was sent to escalation. The fellow thought uninstalling my Outlook 2010 would solve this.. He was wrong! It was not a good thing at all. They did more harm than good. With the help of friends, my pc has returned back to somewhat normal. My Outlook 2010 remains fobar.  BTW Merry Christmas to everyone! Ho, Ho, Ho
Andrew




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Re: thundervird annoying messsage

Gene
 

I said what I did because you said it might be a bug and the bug might not be present in older versions.  I don't know if it is a bug but I was commenting on the possibility that it might be.  I don't know if using an older version might solve the problem for those who may not be able to solve it as you did. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage

Hi Gene,
But would using an older version stop the box from appearing? I've fixed it for now, but still curious. I did use one, my portable version was 24 something LOL.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene  <gsasner@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:56 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage

>
>
> I've said in the past, perhaps not on this list that, if all someone wants to use Thunderbird for is e-mail, I see no reason to use the most current version.  I would imagine there are old versions available from the Thunderbird part of the site somewhere and perhaps from sites like old version. 

> If you use a version that is not current, you must tell the program not to automatically update.  Change this setting before using the program on line.  Disconnecting your computer from the internet before opening the program and looking for and changing the setting might be a good idea.

> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:50 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage
>
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi“id=990873
> WINDOWS 8 on there, too. As a matter of interest, I also went into tools, options, general, advanced, and the show check box on start up is disabled. I only have one more fix before I give up, get a portable version...
>
>
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: The Wolf  <hank.smith966@...>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:42 am
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage
>
> >
> >
> > I would also be interested in a fix
> >
> >
> > On 12/22/2016 4:50 PM, Rajmund wrote:
> > > hello, any ideas about the following message, please? TB is already
> > > the default client....
> > > System Integration  dialog  Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
> > > Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
> > > Use Thunderbird as the default client for:  list
> > > Newsgroups  check box  not checked  2 of 3
> > > Newsgroups
> > > Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird  check box not
> > > checked  Alt+A
> > > Set as Default  button
> > >
> > > It comes every time I start it...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



Re: Any recommendations on pc support.

Janet Gross
 

Gene,

Referring to the email I sent out, no this is not related to my work, but it is related to living independently.  The department of rehab where I live does not only serve people who are a student or who are employed.  Blind people do live independently, and you should know this yourself.  I can schedule an appointment with a tech volunteer to meet at their office, and learn about a computer or an iPhone.  This service is free.  If I need more extensive training, the department of rehab will open my case as they would do for anyone because this is the service they provide.  It is called independent living skills.  Where the computer comes in is: people do need a computer to shop online, pay bills online, manage accounts online and other business accounts online, communicate through email, fill out forms online, check personal status online, refill meds online, look up important and personal info online, schedule appointments online, schedule deliveries online, read mail and etc.  It is the same as rehab providing mobility lessons, and not only if the person is a student or employed. 

This is very understandable! 

Janet    

 .   

 

 

Tomorrow's Another Day, Another Way, and If Tomorrow Never Comes, Problem Solved!  

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

 

But is your learning related to your work?  That would be understandable. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:27 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

 

Hi Carolyn,
I just realized I  think  I must be fortunate because where I live, I can call blind techy volunteers for an appointment who will help me to learn what I might want to learn on the computer or iPhone.  If I need more tech help, I can call the department of rehab, and they will open a case for me to go to get more extensive computer training.  
Janet


Tomorrow's Another Day, Another Way, and If Tomorrow Never Comes, Problem Solved!  


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

And, they are not set up to contract for us, should we be able or willing to pay for a specific service or for services.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

That’s not what happens in the real world.  When you are a client, the state is paying the agency to train you and do all they are supposedly supposed to.  When you are no longer a client, there is no money coming there way concerning you.  So, they couldn’t care less!  Pam.
 
From: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 5:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.
 
 
I strongly disagree.  A blindness rehab agency should go out of its way to help a blind computer user who requests technical assistance, even if he is not a client.  I wouldn’t expect their technology specialist to visit my home or spend a lot of time over the phone trying to resolve my problem.  But it is not unreasonable for them to at least recommend a reputable local service technician who is familiar with screen reader software and other issues relevant to blind computer users. After all, if you can’t get help from a blindness agency, where else can you turn?  
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.
 
There is no reason for rehab to help people who are not clients.  I don't mind reasonable criticism of rehab agencies but this is not reasonable.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: The Wolf <mailto:hank.smith966@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.
 

thats voac rehab fore you totally useless



On 12/21/2016 2:30 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:



In my experience, contacting a blindness rehab agency and asking one of their technology trainers for help is usually fruitless unless you have an open case with them.  A few years ago when my old XP computer died I tried contacting the technology trainer at the rehab center who had originally set it up for me in my apartment a few years earlier when I was still working with them, but he ignored my pleas for help.  I even contacted their director of community services and was basically told to take a hike because they could not offer any assistance or even recommend a knowledgeable service technician unless I had an open case.  Thank goodness my techie friend was able to bail me out.

Gerald



From: Joseph Hudson <mailto:jhud7789@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Any recommendations on pc support.

Hello andrew, it is good to know that your computers up and working again. You're us in for future support I'm trying to get things fixed eventually, I would recommend looking at Best Buy or Staples or a local computer shop in your area. If it is blindness related, I would see is there any blindness trainers in your area, dad have interest in maybe helping fix your problems. Any of the services that I've mentioned above Will cost but very well worth it in the end. If you don't know how to find a good blemish related trainer in your area, I would looking contacting your local dollars office.. offers anything through it's office.


On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Andrew <edrew@... <mailto:edrew@...> > wrote:

Hi Carlos and all, I’m asking this because I recently made a call to ms accessability help desk.
I needed help updating my security update for my Office 2010.
I really nice lady helped me but, made no headway. I was sent to escalation. The fellow thought uninstalling my Outlook 2010 would solve this.. He was wrong! It was not a good thing at all. They did more harm than good. With the help of friends, my pc has returned back to somewhat normal. My Outlook 2010 remains fobar.  BTW Merry Christmas to everyone! Ho, Ho, Ho
Andrew




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Re: disabling the mouse drivers

Gene
 

Disable driver evidently won't work.  As I recall the article you sent is from someone who says that it didn't work.  There are then a number of possible ways to do this given.  But my suggestion of the system tray is not mentioned as a way to get to the settings.  There may be another way to get to the same settings.  I haven't compared where various methods place you. 
 
another option may be in device manager.  Devices have a disable option in device manager.  Whether this device does and whether it is permanent, I don't know.  but disabling a device doesn't require disabling the driver. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers

Hi Mike,
If I go through the device manager, from the context menu, is that the same device manager? Because if yes, there's no disable driver. It's a Samsung specific, my HP did use the same which Gene has, but can't recall it's name right now.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.  <mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:53 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers

>
>
> Hi Rajmund,

> Approach 2 - Device Manager

> Open the Control Panel, then go to System > Device Manager. Navigate to the Mouse Option, right click on it, and click Disable.

> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rajmund
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
>
>
> Is disabling it through the device manager,  the one through mouse settings, or the one, which you access through windows-x?
>
>
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carlos  <carlos1106@...>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:27 am
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
>
> >
> >
> > Also, which method in that article did you try?  There were several described and disabling it in Device Manager should usually work and be retained between reboots.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gene
> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
> >
> >
> > Look in the system tray for whatever is relevant.  I did this a long time ago on my Windows 7 machine.  I don't know if you will see a specific item for your touch pad or something more general but I believe you will see something for your touch pad.  Open the item and look for the relevant setting.  that will probably work. 
> > 
> > gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: Rajmund
> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:01 PM
> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > Subject: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
> >
> >
> > Oh, while I'm at it, any ideas about this one? I can disable the mouse driver no problem, and I hit apply, and everything, but the next time I reboot, the driver reactivates. What's happening here, and more importantly, how do I, for once and all, stop this crap from keep reenabling itself? While writing my TB error, I lost focus 3 damn times. This should, according to google, work. http://www.howtogeek.com/220149/how-do-you-permanently-disable-the-touchpad-on-a-laptop/
> > Except that it doesn't, I presume because am on windows 8.1, latest NVDA. Oh, it's Samsung, already had troubles with the f keys having unusual functions, so wouldn't be surprised, if this has a trick,  too.
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



Re: thundervird annoying messsage

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

OK, try this. Go in, click on check now, after it checks, and the dialog comes, dismiss it, check the box again, and restart. It definitely works here, but that's what I did first.


Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:06 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage



nope

it didn't work

On 12/22/2016 5:55 PM, Rajmund wrote:
Wait.... I got it... GO menu, tools, options, advanced, general. Check the box, to always check, exit thunderbird, and restart it. Report back whether it works, it did here. I was gonna uncheck it again, but since it works, I won't bother. Now the mouse.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:44 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage


its not just you having that issue

its driving me total nuts as well.
On 12/22/2016 5:09 PM, Rajmund wrote:
Yes. As the text said it as well. I used NVDA speech viewer to copy, so the current status of the box is what it said there. Regardless of whether I check the always check check box, or for that matter, uncheck mail, news, and calendar, the message is haunting me. Besides, as I say, it's already the default client, did that through settings, so why isn't it taking on the change?



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:55 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage

Have you unchecked the
"Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird"
checkbox?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:50 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage


hello, any ideas about the following message, please? TB is already the
default client....
System Integration dialog Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for: list
Newsgroups check box not checked 2 of 3
Newsgroups
Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird check box not
checked Alt+A
Set as Default button

It comes every time I start it...






Re: thundervird annoying messsage

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi Gene,
But would using an older version stop the box from appearing? I've fixed it for now, but still curious. I did use one, my portable version was 24 something LOL.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:56 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage



I've said in the past, perhaps not on this list that, if all someone wants to use Thunderbird for is e-mail, I see no reason to use the most current version. I would imagine there are old versions available from the Thunderbird part of the site somewhere and perhaps from sites like old version.

If you use a version that is not current, you must tell the program not to automatically update. Change this setting before using the program on line. Disconnecting your computer from the internet before opening the program and looking for and changing the setting might be a good idea.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgiid=990873
WINDOWS 8 on there, too. As a matter of interest, I also went into tools, options, general, advanced, and the show check box on start up is disabled. I only have one more fix before I give up, get a portable version...



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:42 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage



I would also be interested in a fix


On 12/22/2016 4:50 PM, Rajmund wrote:
hello, any ideas about the following message, please? TB is already
the default client....
System Integration dialog Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for: list
Newsgroups check box not checked 2 of 3
Newsgroups
Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird check box not
checked Alt+A
Set as Default button

It comes every time I start it...







Re: disabling the mouse drivers

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi Mike,
If I go through the device manager, from the context menu, is that the same device manager? Because if yes, there's no disable driver. It's a Samsung specific, my HP did use the same which Gene has, but can't recall it's name right now.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mwb5781@charter.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:53 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Hi Rajmund,

Approach 2 - Device Manager

Open the Control Panel, then go to System > Device Manager. Navigate to the Mouse Option, right click on it, and click Disable.

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Is disabling it through the device manager, the one through mouse settings, or the one, which you access through windows-x?



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:27 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers



Also, which method in that article did you try? There were several described and disabling it in Device Manager should usually work and be retained between reboots.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Look in the system tray for whatever is relevant. I did this a long time ago on my Windows 7 machine. I don't know if you will see a specific item for your touch pad or something more general but I believe you will see something for your touch pad. Open the item and look for the relevant setting. that will probably work.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers


Oh, while I'm at it, any ideas about this one? I can disable the mouse driver no problem, and I hit apply, and everything, but the next time I reboot, the driver reactivates. What's happening here, and more importantly, how do I, for once and all, stop this crap from keep reenabling itself? While writing my TB error, I lost focus 3 damn times. This should, according to google, work. http://www.howtogeek.com/220149/how-do-you-permanently-disable-the-touchpad-on-a-laptop/
Except that it doesn't, I presume because am on windows 8.1, latest NVDA. Oh, it's Samsung, already had troubles with the f keys having unusual functions, so wouldn't be surprised, if this has a trick, too.

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Re: thundervird annoying messsage

 

nope

it didn't work

On 12/22/2016 5:55 PM, Rajmund wrote:
Wait.... I got it... GO menu, tools, options, advanced, general. Check the box, to always check, exit thunderbird, and restart it. Report back whether it works, it did here. I was gonna uncheck it again, but since it works, I won't bother. Now the mouse.



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----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:44 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage


its not just you having that issue

its driving me total nuts as well.
On 12/22/2016 5:09 PM, Rajmund wrote:
Yes. As the text said it as well. I used NVDA speech viewer to copy, so the current status of the box is what it said there. Regardless of whether I check the always check check box, or for that matter, uncheck mail, news, and calendar, the message is haunting me. Besides, as I say, it's already the default client, did that through settings, so why isn't it taking on the change?



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:55 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage

Have you unchecked the
"Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird"
checkbox?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:50 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage


hello, any ideas about the following message, please? TB is already the
default client....
System Integration dialog Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for: list
Newsgroups check box not checked 2 of 3
Newsgroups
Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird check box not
checked Alt+A
Set as Default button

It comes every time I start it...




Re: thundervird annoying messsage

Gene
 

I've said in the past, perhaps not on this list that, if all someone wants to use Thunderbird for is e-mail, I see no reason to use the most current version.  I would imagine there are old versions available from the Thunderbird part of the site somewhere and perhaps from sites like old version. 
 
If you use a version that is not current, you must tell the program not to automatically update.  Change this setting before using the program on line.  Disconnecting your computer from the internet before opening the program and looking for and changing the setting might be a good idea.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi“id=990873
WINDOWS 8 on there, too. As a matter of interest, I also went into tools, options, general, advanced, and the show check box on start up is disabled. I only have one more fix before I give up, get a portable version...



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----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf  <hank.smith966@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:42 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage

>
>
> I would also be interested in a fix
>
>
> On 12/22/2016 4:50 PM, Rajmund wrote:
> > hello, any ideas about the following message, please? TB is already
> > the default client....
> > System Integration  dialog  Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
> > Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
> > Use Thunderbird as the default client for:  list
> > Newsgroups  check box  not checked  2 of 3
> > Newsgroups
> > Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird  check box not
> > checked  Alt+A
> > Set as Default  button
> >
> > It comes every time I start it...
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



Re: thundervird annoying messsage

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Wait.... I got it... GO menu, tools, options, advanced, general. Check the box, to always check, exit thunderbird, and restart it. Report back whether it works, it did here. I was gonna uncheck it again, but since it works, I won't bother. Now the mouse.



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----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:44 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage



its not just you having that issue

its driving me total nuts as well.
On 12/22/2016 5:09 PM, Rajmund wrote:
Yes. As the text said it as well. I used NVDA speech viewer to copy, so the current status of the box is what it said there. Regardless of whether I check the always check check box, or for that matter, uncheck mail, news, and calendar, the message is haunting me. Besides, as I say, it's already the default client, did that through settings, so why isn't it taking on the change?



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:55 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage


Have you unchecked the
"Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird"
checkbox?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:50 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage


hello, any ideas about the following message, please? TB is already the
default client....
System Integration dialog Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for: list
Newsgroups check box not checked 2 of 3
Newsgroups
Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird check box not
checked Alt+A
Set as Default button

It comes every time I start it...






Re: disabling the mouse drivers

Mike B. <mwb5781@...>
 

Hi Rajmund,
 
Approach 2 – Device Manager
 
Open the Control Panel, then go to System > Device Manager. Navigate to the Mouse Option, right click on it, and click Disable.
 
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers

Is disabling it through the device manager,  the one through mouse settings, or the one, which you access through windows-x?



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos  <carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:27 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers

>
>
> Also, which method in that article did you try?  There were several described and disabling it in Device Manager should usually work and be retained between reboots.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
>
>
> Look in the system tray for whatever is relevant.  I did this a long time ago on my Windows 7 machine.  I don't know if you will see a specific item for your touch pad or something more general but I believe you will see something for your touch pad.  Open the item and look for the relevant setting.  that will probably work. 

> gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:01 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] disabling the mouse drivers
>
>
> Oh, while I'm at it, any ideas about this one? I can disable the mouse driver no problem, and I hit apply, and everything, but the next time I reboot, the driver reactivates. What's happening here, and more importantly, how do I, for once and all, stop this crap from keep reenabling itself? While writing my TB error, I lost focus 3 damn times. This should, according to google, work. http://www.howtogeek.com/220149/how-do-you-permanently-disable-the-touchpad-on-a-laptop/
> Except that it doesn't, I presume because am on windows 8.1, latest NVDA. Oh, it's Samsung, already had troubles with the f keys having unusual functions, so wouldn't be surprised, if this has a trick,  too.
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: thundervird annoying messsage

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgiid=990873
WINDOWS 8 on there, too. As a matter of interest, I also went into tools, options, general, advanced, and the show check box on start up is disabled. I only have one more fix before I give up, get a portable version...



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----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:42 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thundervird annoying messsage



I would also be interested in a fix


On 12/22/2016 4:50 PM, Rajmund wrote:
hello, any ideas about the following message, please? TB is already
the default client....
System Integration dialog Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for:
Use Thunderbird as the default client for: list
Newsgroups check box not checked 2 of 3
Newsgroups
Always perform this check when starting Thunderbird check box not
checked Alt+A
Set as Default button

It comes every time I start it...




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