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Re: another laptop question: keys that light up

Gene
 

Is the manual available on the machine?  My impression is that it is often available as a PDF file.  When dealing with function key commands, a list of commands should be consulted for that specific brand and model.  Function commands don't speak.  You don't really know what a command will do.  People should consult their manuals for certain information about the computer such as this.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Hi Bill,

One question, if you know the answer, what model of Dell are you using? The
reason I ask is that Dell tend to change things from time-to-time and are
currently going through an 'Apple-ization' of Windows, especially related to
the action of function keys. The information I gave in my previous post may
or may not be correct depending on the model of Dell.

Cheers.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bill Koppelmann
Sent: 06 January 2017 07:35
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Hi John,
that was very helpful, and I'll have to find out how to turn that light
off, but I need to know one thing, where is the fn key on the keyboard,
can you give me any clues, and or can you tell me how I'll know when
I've found it?

One other question while I'm here, I just can't quite seem ti figure
out how to edit the names under the icons on the desktop. As you
probably guessed, you can't press the f2 and be able to edit it that
way. Your help would be most appreciated.
Bill K.






this tv?

Billy Inglis
 

hi guys, Wondering if anyone on list has this Samsung smart television:
Samsung UE40KU6000k
Any Information regarding this tv would be very helpful indeed, Wanting to know how the voice guide feature works?, Billy
--
cheers
Billy


Re: another laptop question: keys that light up

Pamela Dominguez
 

The fn key on my newer laptop was to the far left, where the control key usually is. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Gregory
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Hi Bill,

Firstly, try the Alt key + F10 key to turn off the keyboard light. If that
doesn't work, then try the FN key + F10 option. The FN key is normally
located to the left of the spacebar. Is there 4 keys to the left of the
spacebar? Normally the one to the far left is the Control key and the one
nearest the spacebar is the Alt key. Now, you should be left with 2 keys in
the middle. Just press the one next to the Control key and if the Start menu
pops up then that is the Windows key. If not, then try the one next to the
Alt key to pop up the Start menu. Whichever pops up the Start menu is the
Windows key, so the one remaining would normally be the FN key. Probably as
clear as mud, but try the various options. Unfortunately I do not have
Windows 8 installed, so cannot exactly say what Narrator will announce when
the Start menu pops up. Incidentally, which version of Windows 8 are you
using, 8 or 8.1? I am assuming it is 8.1 as I don't think 8.0 has a Start
menu as such.

Regarding renaming desktop icons, the simplest way I have found to do this
is to ensure that I am on the desktop by pressing Windows key + M. I can
then use the arrow keys to move between desktop icons. So, assuming you have
pressed Windows key + M and can move to each of the icons on the desktop,
you should be able to rename any of them. Move to the icon you want to
rename and press the F2 key. The name of the icon will appear in an edit box
and you can rename it to whatever you want. Note, the name may be on 2 or 3
lines, so move to the beginning or end and delete unwanted characters and
replace with preferred name. Press Enter to complete the changes and your
icon should be renamed. The only icons I have found that cannot be renamed
are 'Control Panel' and the name of the user, i.e. in my case 'John'.

HTH. Any problems please do ask.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bill Koppelmann
Sent: 06 January 2017 07:35
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Hi John,
that was very helpful, and I'll have to find out how to turn that light
off, but I need to know one thing, where is the fn key on the keyboard,
can you give me any clues, and or can you tell me how I'll know when
I've found it?

One other question while I'm here, I just can't quite seem ti figure
out how to edit the names under the icons on the desktop. As you
probably guessed, you can't press the f2 and be able to edit it that
way. Your help would be most appreciated.
Bill K.








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Re: another laptop question: keys that light up

Pamela Dominguez
 

Each kind of computer has a different place for the fn key, and different actions for it. So, he can only tell you if he knows your specific computer. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Koppelmann
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 2:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Hi John,
that was very helpful, and I'll have to find out how to turn that light
off, but I need to know one thing, where is the fn key on the keyboard,
can you give me any clues, and or can you tell me how I'll know when
I've found it?

One other question while I'm here, I just can't quite seem ti figure
out how to edit the names under the icons on the desktop. As you
probably guessed, you can't press the f2 and be able to edit it that
way. Your help would be most appreciated.
Bill K.





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Re: Is Revo no longer accessible with NVDA?

John Gregory <stratplayer@...>
 

Hi Nikola,

 

I am using Revo 3.1.8 which is the latest version of the software and don’t have any problems using it with JAWS. I can tab to the ‘search box’, ‘listed programs’ and ‘search type’ combo. I then use JAWS OCR to read the screen and click on the option I want, i.e. ‘uninstall’ etc.

 

Not used it with NVDA, perhaps someone else on the list could provide information as to the accessibility of Revo using NVDA or other screen readers.

 

John.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nikola Jovic
Sent: 06 January 2017 10:16
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Is Revo no longer accessible with NVDA?

 

Hello all, got some programs which i would like to uninstall, however their uninstallers aren't really accessible, so thought i'd use Revo. To my surprise, in the latest version NVDA only sees an edit box, which apparently is for searching, and you can't tab around the program. Object navigation and screen review also don't bring me anywhere. So a question, how do people use the program? Or if it's no longer usable, does someone have the old version which works? Thanks in advance.

 


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Re: These 6 Women Undergrads At MIT Invented A Game Changer For The Blin - forbes.comd #article

Pamela Dominguez
 

Oh yes. (smile) I've seen that one before in various places. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 6:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] These 6 Women Undergrads At MIT Invented A Game Changer For The Blin - forbes.comd

Everyone says my husband is a word smith, and he does come
up with punny things and notices words. He said a guy on TV
this afternoon said something about leaving no turn
unstoned.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] These 6 Women Undergrads At MIT
Invented A Game Changer For The Blin - forbes.comd

I'm not a programmer ... My bad, I ought to have been, but
I goofed much too much and lost that opportunity.

Next, I'm NOT a wordsmith, although I have always resolved
to slice and dice this English language in as a clear a tone
as I can get it. After all, it's one of many languages I
speak and write well!

Notwithstanding, when I dabbled into programming, again,
shame on me, never went beyond BASIC, yikes! The word
"deprecated" was always used to refer to programs NO LONGER
in vogue. May be I am TOO AMERICAN, trying to BULLDOZE my
way into the English lexicon of another nation with full
rights and responsibilities as she may so demand;
nevertheless, I've been known to CRANK English on both sides
of the aisle, American and British!

Conclusion: No need to quibble over semantics; as a reader
of any thought I may express, derive, if so desired, the
meaning that floats your boat. For me, both words work just
fine and I'll now go drink a toast in celebration!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado













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Re: the google home: early impressions

Tim Grady <timfgrady758@...>
 

As far as I’m concerned, one of the distinct advantages of the echo is that you don’t need a cell phone to set it up. it can be done with a computer, just like the chromecast.

On Jan 5, 2017, at 10:47 PM, Melissa <angel.melissa0107@gmail.com> wrote:

Got it set up with no sighted assistance required. The app on the
Iphone is easier to use than the alexa app.

On 1/5/17, Melissa <angel.melissa0107@gmail.com> wrote:


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 5, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All,

Alexa has competition. Last November Google introduced its device: the
Home. I just got mine set up this afternoon and thought you'd like some
early thoughts.

Physically, this unit is perhaps a bit more than the height of the Echo.
Its diameter is just a shade smaller, but it tapers a bit as one moves
toward the top. The top surface slopes down for an inch or two. This part
of the Home is a touch surface. Sliding on it in a clockwise direction
increases the audio level. Moving counterclockwise lowers it. Tapping the
surface pauses or resumes play.

The lower portion of the Home feels like a cloth mesh. This mesh can be
removed and replaced by a mesh, or screen, of a different color.

With this removed, we can see three small speakers. One faces left and
one faces right. These are the mid/high-end drivers. The remaining
loudspeaker faces forward and is the subwoofer. It is capable of wide cone
excursions and can produce considerable low-frequency response down to
perhaps 55 Hz. Believe me! this is very impressive, although somewhat
boomy at times. Overall, the sound is better than that of the Amazon
Echo.

There is no jack for obtaining audio to a sound system. This reminds me of
how Apple has removed audio jacks from some of its devices. Audio can
still feed a sound system via a small device known as a Google Audio
Crhomecast. TV can be supported by a Video Chromecast. (I do not have that
unit so cannot discuss it.)

The price of the Google Home is $130. The Audio Chromecast costs $35.

Like the Echo, the Home must be set up using a Google Home app. There are
28 steps to set it up. I had an experienced sighted helper and he got it
going in a bit over a half hour.

Again, like the Echo, most items are opened, or linked, via the app. Some
services have a monthly charge. Lots of music can be heard at no charge.
Pandora and Google Play can be heard that way. If, however, you ask to
hear a particular artist, you'll hear him or her but mixed with other
artists.

The Audio Chromcast must be linked to the Home. If you give each device
its own name, you can hear your selection from the device you ask for when
requesting an item.

If no name is called, the sound will emanate from the Home. Like the Echo,
the Home uses a wake up word, either Okay Google or Hey Google.

I wish this list could accept attachments. I could have described the
equipment in greater detail, and you could have heard the amazing sound
this equipment can produce.

This does it for now. I look forward to hearing from others as they
experiment with this product. If you find that I made any errors in this
presentation, I look forward to knowing about them.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY


Thank you Joe would you be willing to send me an attachment I just got one
for my husband for his birthday and I'm hoping that I can set it up
without cited help thank you so much for your review




Is Revo no longer accessible with NVDA?

Nikola Jovic <wwenikola123@...>
 

Hello all, got some programs which i would like to uninstall, however their uninstallers aren't really accessible, so thought i'd use Revo. To my surprise, in the latest version NVDA only sees an edit box, which apparently is for searching, and you can't tab around the program. Object navigation and screen review also don't bring me anywhere. So a question, how do people use the program? Or if it's no longer usable, does someone have the old version which works? Thanks in advance.



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Re: virtual dj question

Carlos
 


It is intended to work with Virtual DJ 7 because that is what I am running.  It will not work with Virtual DJ 8.  It should also work with earlier versions than 7, but in that case the custom highlight may have to be adjusted for it to work correctly and I cannot guarantee compatibility with some of the keyboard shortcuts.

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Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 4:23 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] virtual dj question

virtual dj question

Hello to al of you.

I am ashley grobler and i am 15 years old, and i am slo blind, and i like it to dj.

But i saw the virtual dj accessability file on the sam page where i downloaded the virtual recorder setup.

With whitch vertion of virtual dj does that file work?

please tell me.

Best regards...    


virtual dj question

ashleygrobler04 <ashleygrobler04@...>
 

virtual dj question

Hello to al of you.

I am ashley grobler and i am 15 years old, and i am slo blind, and i like it to dj.

But i saw the virtual dj accessability file on the sam page where i downloaded the virtual recorder setup.

With whitch vertion of virtual dj does that file work?

please tell me.

Best regards...    


Re: another laptop question: keys that light up

Carlos
 

Yes I remember reading that somewhere as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <stratplayer@gmx.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up


I believe that on the Dell one can reverse the default function key actions
from media mode to standard function keys by pressing the hotkey combination
of FN + Esc. Have not tried this as I don't have a Dell, but those who have
say it retains the setting even after a reboot which suggests it changes the
BIOS setting for this function.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: 06 January 2017 08:54
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Although it is worth noting that renaming with F2 by itself may not work on
many laptops where the standard F key operations are reversed by default.
If this is the case as it is with many laptops, you will have to use the Fn
key in combination with F2 for the standard rename functionality. You can
usually change this behavior either in the BIOS, with a manufacturer
supplied utility, or Mobility Center depending on the brand/model. With
some Dell laptops you can change this behavior in Mobility Center.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <stratplayer@gmx.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up


Hi Bill,

Firstly, try the Alt key + F10 key to turn off the keyboard light. If that
doesn't work, then try the FN key + F10 option. The FN key is normally
located to the left of the spacebar. Is there 4 keys to the left of the
spacebar? Normally the one to the far left is the Control key and the one
nearest the spacebar is the Alt key. Now, you should be left with 2 keys
in
the middle. Just press the one next to the Control key and if the Start
menu
pops up then that is the Windows key. If not, then try the one next to the
Alt key to pop up the Start menu. Whichever pops up the Start menu is the
Windows key, so the one remaining would normally be the FN key. Probably
as
clear as mud, but try the various options. Unfortunately I do not have
Windows 8 installed, so cannot exactly say what Narrator will announce
when
the Start menu pops up. Incidentally, which version of Windows 8 are you
using, 8 or 8.1? I am assuming it is 8.1 as I don't think 8.0 has a Start
menu as such.

Regarding renaming desktop icons, the simplest way I have found to do this
is to ensure that I am on the desktop by pressing Windows key + M. I can
then use the arrow keys to move between desktop icons. So, assuming you
have
pressed Windows key + M and can move to each of the icons on the desktop,
you should be able to rename any of them. Move to the icon you want to
rename and press the F2 key. The name of the icon will appear in an edit
box
and you can rename it to whatever you want. Note, the name may be on 2 or
3
lines, so move to the beginning or end and delete unwanted characters and
replace with preferred name. Press Enter to complete the changes and your
icon should be renamed. The only icons I have found that cannot be renamed
are 'Control Panel' and the name of the user, i.e. in my case 'John'.

HTH. Any problems please do ask.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Bill Koppelmann
Sent: 06 January 2017 07:35
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Hi John,
that was very helpful, and I'll have to find out how to turn that light
off, but I need to know one thing, where is the fn key on the keyboard,
can you give me any clues, and or can you tell me how I'll know when
I've found it?

One other question while I'm here, I just can't quite seem ti figure
out how to edit the names under the icons on the desktop. As you
probably guessed, you can't press the f2 and be able to edit it that
way. Your help would be most appreciated.
Bill K.










Re: another laptop question: keys that light up

John Gregory <stratplayer@...>
 

I believe that on the Dell one can reverse the default function key actions
from media mode to standard function keys by pressing the hotkey combination
of FN + Esc. Have not tried this as I don't have a Dell, but those who have
say it retains the setting even after a reboot which suggests it changes the
BIOS setting for this function.

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: 06 January 2017 08:54
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Although it is worth noting that renaming with F2 by itself may not work on
many laptops where the standard F key operations are reversed by default.
If this is the case as it is with many laptops, you will have to use the Fn
key in combination with F2 for the standard rename functionality. You can
usually change this behavior either in the BIOS, with a manufacturer
supplied utility, or Mobility Center depending on the brand/model. With
some Dell laptops you can change this behavior in Mobility Center.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <stratplayer@gmx.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up


Hi Bill,

Firstly, try the Alt key + F10 key to turn off the keyboard light. If that
doesn't work, then try the FN key + F10 option. The FN key is normally
located to the left of the spacebar. Is there 4 keys to the left of the
spacebar? Normally the one to the far left is the Control key and the one
nearest the spacebar is the Alt key. Now, you should be left with 2 keys
in
the middle. Just press the one next to the Control key and if the Start
menu
pops up then that is the Windows key. If not, then try the one next to the
Alt key to pop up the Start menu. Whichever pops up the Start menu is the
Windows key, so the one remaining would normally be the FN key. Probably
as
clear as mud, but try the various options. Unfortunately I do not have
Windows 8 installed, so cannot exactly say what Narrator will announce
when
the Start menu pops up. Incidentally, which version of Windows 8 are you
using, 8 or 8.1? I am assuming it is 8.1 as I don't think 8.0 has a Start
menu as such.

Regarding renaming desktop icons, the simplest way I have found to do this
is to ensure that I am on the desktop by pressing Windows key + M. I can
then use the arrow keys to move between desktop icons. So, assuming you
have
pressed Windows key + M and can move to each of the icons on the desktop,
you should be able to rename any of them. Move to the icon you want to
rename and press the F2 key. The name of the icon will appear in an edit
box
and you can rename it to whatever you want. Note, the name may be on 2 or
3
lines, so move to the beginning or end and delete unwanted characters and
replace with preferred name. Press Enter to complete the changes and your
icon should be renamed. The only icons I have found that cannot be renamed
are 'Control Panel' and the name of the user, i.e. in my case 'John'.

HTH. Any problems please do ask.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Bill Koppelmann
Sent: 06 January 2017 07:35
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Hi John,
that was very helpful, and I'll have to find out how to turn that light
off, but I need to know one thing, where is the fn key on the keyboard,
can you give me any clues, and or can you tell me how I'll know when
I've found it?

One other question while I'm here, I just can't quite seem ti figure
out how to edit the names under the icons on the desktop. As you
probably guessed, you can't press the f2 and be able to edit it that
way. Your help would be most appreciated.
Bill K.






Re: another laptop question: keys that light up

Carlos
 

Although it is worth noting that renaming with F2 by itself may not work on many laptops where the standard F key operations are reversed by default. If this is the case as it is with many laptops, you will have to use the Fn key in combination with F2 for the standard rename functionality. You can usually change this behavior either in the BIOS, with a manufacturer supplied utility, or Mobility Center depending on the brand/model. With some Dell laptops you can change this behavior in Mobility Center.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <stratplayer@gmx.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up


Hi Bill,

Firstly, try the Alt key + F10 key to turn off the keyboard light. If that
doesn't work, then try the FN key + F10 option. The FN key is normally
located to the left of the spacebar. Is there 4 keys to the left of the
spacebar? Normally the one to the far left is the Control key and the one
nearest the spacebar is the Alt key. Now, you should be left with 2 keys in
the middle. Just press the one next to the Control key and if the Start menu
pops up then that is the Windows key. If not, then try the one next to the
Alt key to pop up the Start menu. Whichever pops up the Start menu is the
Windows key, so the one remaining would normally be the FN key. Probably as
clear as mud, but try the various options. Unfortunately I do not have
Windows 8 installed, so cannot exactly say what Narrator will announce when
the Start menu pops up. Incidentally, which version of Windows 8 are you
using, 8 or 8.1? I am assuming it is 8.1 as I don't think 8.0 has a Start
menu as such.

Regarding renaming desktop icons, the simplest way I have found to do this
is to ensure that I am on the desktop by pressing Windows key + M. I can
then use the arrow keys to move between desktop icons. So, assuming you have
pressed Windows key + M and can move to each of the icons on the desktop,
you should be able to rename any of them. Move to the icon you want to
rename and press the F2 key. The name of the icon will appear in an edit box
and you can rename it to whatever you want. Note, the name may be on 2 or 3
lines, so move to the beginning or end and delete unwanted characters and
replace with preferred name. Press Enter to complete the changes and your
icon should be renamed. The only icons I have found that cannot be renamed
are 'Control Panel' and the name of the user, i.e. in my case 'John'.

HTH. Any problems please do ask.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bill Koppelmann
Sent: 06 January 2017 07:35
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Hi John,
that was very helpful, and I'll have to find out how to turn that light
off, but I need to know one thing, where is the fn key on the keyboard,
can you give me any clues, and or can you tell me how I'll know when
I've found it?

One other question while I'm here, I just can't quite seem ti figure
out how to edit the names under the icons on the desktop. As you
probably guessed, you can't press the f2 and be able to edit it that
way. Your help would be most appreciated.
Bill K.





Re: another laptop question: keys that light up

John Gregory <stratplayer@...>
 

Hi Bill,

One question, if you know the answer, what model of Dell are you using? The
reason I ask is that Dell tend to change things from time-to-time and are
currently going through an 'Apple-ization' of Windows, especially related to
the action of function keys. The information I gave in my previous post may
or may not be correct depending on the model of Dell.

Cheers.

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bill Koppelmann
Sent: 06 January 2017 07:35
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Hi John,
that was very helpful, and I'll have to find out how to turn that light
off, but I need to know one thing, where is the fn key on the keyboard,
can you give me any clues, and or can you tell me how I'll know when
I've found it?

One other question while I'm here, I just can't quite seem ti figure
out how to edit the names under the icons on the desktop. As you
probably guessed, you can't press the f2 and be able to edit it that
way. Your help would be most appreciated.
Bill K.


Re: another laptop question: keys that light up

John Gregory <stratplayer@...>
 

Hi Bill,

Firstly, try the Alt key + F10 key to turn off the keyboard light. If that
doesn't work, then try the FN key + F10 option. The FN key is normally
located to the left of the spacebar. Is there 4 keys to the left of the
spacebar? Normally the one to the far left is the Control key and the one
nearest the spacebar is the Alt key. Now, you should be left with 2 keys in
the middle. Just press the one next to the Control key and if the Start menu
pops up then that is the Windows key. If not, then try the one next to the
Alt key to pop up the Start menu. Whichever pops up the Start menu is the
Windows key, so the one remaining would normally be the FN key. Probably as
clear as mud, but try the various options. Unfortunately I do not have
Windows 8 installed, so cannot exactly say what Narrator will announce when
the Start menu pops up. Incidentally, which version of Windows 8 are you
using, 8 or 8.1? I am assuming it is 8.1 as I don't think 8.0 has a Start
menu as such.

Regarding renaming desktop icons, the simplest way I have found to do this
is to ensure that I am on the desktop by pressing Windows key + M. I can
then use the arrow keys to move between desktop icons. So, assuming you have
pressed Windows key + M and can move to each of the icons on the desktop,
you should be able to rename any of them. Move to the icon you want to
rename and press the F2 key. The name of the icon will appear in an edit box
and you can rename it to whatever you want. Note, the name may be on 2 or 3
lines, so move to the beginning or end and delete unwanted characters and
replace with preferred name. Press Enter to complete the changes and your
icon should be renamed. The only icons I have found that cannot be renamed
are 'Control Panel' and the name of the user, i.e. in my case 'John'.

HTH. Any problems please do ask.

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bill Koppelmann
Sent: 06 January 2017 07:35
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] another laptop question: keys that light up

Hi John,
that was very helpful, and I'll have to find out how to turn that light
off, but I need to know one thing, where is the fn key on the keyboard,
can you give me any clues, and or can you tell me how I'll know when
I've found it?

One other question while I'm here, I just can't quite seem ti figure
out how to edit the names under the icons on the desktop. As you
probably guessed, you can't press the f2 and be able to edit it that
way. Your help would be most appreciated.
Bill K.


another laptop question: keys that light up

Bill Koppelmann <billmeister@...>
 

Hi John,
that was very helpful, and I'll have to find out how to turn that light off, but I need to know one thing, where is the fn key on the keyboard, can you give me any clues, and or can you tell me how I'll know when I've found it?

One other question while I'm here, I just can't quite seem ti figure out how to edit the names under the icons on the desktop. As you probably guessed, you can't press the f2 and be able to edit it that way. Your help would be most appreciated.
Bill K.


Re: the google home: early impressions

Melissa
 

Got it set up with no sighted assistance required. The app on the
Iphone is easier to use than the alexa app.

On 1/5/17, Melissa <angel.melissa0107@gmail.com> wrote:


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 5, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All,

Alexa has competition. Last November Google introduced its device: the
Home. I just got mine set up this afternoon and thought you'd like some
early thoughts.

Physically, this unit is perhaps a bit more than the height of the Echo.
Its diameter is just a shade smaller, but it tapers a bit as one moves
toward the top. The top surface slopes down for an inch or two. This part
of the Home is a touch surface. Sliding on it in a clockwise direction
increases the audio level. Moving counterclockwise lowers it. Tapping the
surface pauses or resumes play.

The lower portion of the Home feels like a cloth mesh. This mesh can be
removed and replaced by a mesh, or screen, of a different color.

With this removed, we can see three small speakers. One faces left and
one faces right. These are the mid/high-end drivers. The remaining
loudspeaker faces forward and is the subwoofer. It is capable of wide cone
excursions and can produce considerable low-frequency response down to
perhaps 55 Hz. Believe me! this is very impressive, although somewhat
boomy at times. Overall, the sound is better than that of the Amazon
Echo.

There is no jack for obtaining audio to a sound system. This reminds me of
how Apple has removed audio jacks from some of its devices. Audio can
still feed a sound system via a small device known as a Google Audio
Crhomecast. TV can be supported by a Video Chromecast. (I do not have that
unit so cannot discuss it.)

The price of the Google Home is $130. The Audio Chromecast costs $35.

Like the Echo, the Home must be set up using a Google Home app. There are
28 steps to set it up. I had an experienced sighted helper and he got it
going in a bit over a half hour.

Again, like the Echo, most items are opened, or linked, via the app. Some
services have a monthly charge. Lots of music can be heard at no charge.
Pandora and Google Play can be heard that way. If, however, you ask to
hear a particular artist, you'll hear him or her but mixed with other
artists.

The Audio Chromcast must be linked to the Home. If you give each device
its own name, you can hear your selection from the device you ask for when
requesting an item.

If no name is called, the sound will emanate from the Home. Like the Echo,
the Home uses a wake up word, either Okay Google or Hey Google.

I wish this list could accept attachments. I could have described the
equipment in greater detail, and you could have heard the amazing sound
this equipment can produce.

This does it for now. I look forward to hearing from others as they
experiment with this product. If you find that I made any errors in this
presentation, I look forward to knowing about them.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY


Thank you Joe would you be willing to send me an attachment I just got one
for my husband for his birthday and I'm hoping that I can set it up
without cited help thank you so much for your review



Re: the google home: early impressions

Melissa
 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 5, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All,

Alexa has competition. Last November Google introduced its device: the Home. I just got mine set up this afternoon and thought you'd like some early thoughts.

Physically, this unit is perhaps a bit more than the height of the Echo. Its diameter is just a shade smaller, but it tapers a bit as one moves toward the top. The top surface slopes down for an inch or two. This part of the Home is a touch surface. Sliding on it in a clockwise direction increases the audio level. Moving counterclockwise lowers it. Tapping the surface pauses or resumes play.

The lower portion of the Home feels like a cloth mesh. This mesh can be removed and replaced by a mesh, or screen, of a different color.

With this removed, we can see three small speakers. One faces left and one faces right. These are the mid/high-end drivers. The remaining loudspeaker faces forward and is the subwoofer. It is capable of wide cone excursions and can produce considerable low-frequency response down to perhaps 55 Hz. Believe me! this is very impressive, although somewhat boomy at times. Overall, the sound is better than that of the Amazon Echo.

There is no jack for obtaining audio to a sound system. This reminds me of how Apple has removed audio jacks from some of its devices. Audio can still feed a sound system via a small device known as a Google Audio Crhomecast. TV can be supported by a Video Chromecast. (I do not have that unit so cannot discuss it.)

The price of the Google Home is $130. The Audio Chromecast costs $35.

Like the Echo, the Home must be set up using a Google Home app. There are 28 steps to set it up. I had an experienced sighted helper and he got it going in a bit over a half hour.

Again, like the Echo, most items are opened, or linked, via the app. Some services have a monthly charge. Lots of music can be heard at no charge. Pandora and Google Play can be heard that way. If, however, you ask to hear a particular artist, you'll hear him or her but mixed with other artists.

The Audio Chromcast must be linked to the Home. If you give each device its own name, you can hear your selection from the device you ask for when requesting an item.

If no name is called, the sound will emanate from the Home. Like the Echo, the Home uses a wake up word, either Okay Google or Hey Google.

I wish this list could accept attachments. I could have described the equipment in greater detail, and you could have heard the amazing sound this equipment can produce.

This does it for now. I look forward to hearing from others as they experiment with this product. If you find that I made any errors in this presentation, I look forward to knowing about them.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY


Thank you Joe would you be willing to send me an attachment I just got one for my husband for his birthday and I'm hoping that I can set it up without cited help thank you so much for your review


10 Ways To Search Google For Information That 96% Of People Don't Know About #article

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,
 
Thought this might interest some of you.

From: Top Tech Tidbits
14. The article "10 Ways to Search Google for Information That 96% of People Don't Know About" is worth perusing even though a few of the demonstrative examples are unfortunately posted as screen shots, making them difficult if not impossible for screen reader users to access:
https://brightside.me/wonder-curiosities/10-ways-to-search-google-for-information-that-96-of-people-dont-know-about-256760/
 
10 Ways to Search Google for Information That 96% of People Don’t Know About
In our era of advanced technology and high-speed Internet connections, you can find information on virtually anything. In the space of just a few minutes,
we can find recipes for the tastiest pie or learn all about the theory of wave-particle duality.
 
But more often than not, we have to sift through a vast body of knowledge to get the information we need, and this can take hours rather than minutes.
This is why Bright Side has put together a list of the most effective methods for searching Google to help you find the precious material you’re looking
for in just a couple of clicks.
 
1. Either this or that
 
Sometimes we’re not sure that we’ve correctly remembered the information or the name we need to start our search. But this doesn’t have to be a problem!
Simply put in a few potential variations of what you’re looking for, and separate them by typing the “|“ symbol. Instead of this symbol you can also use
”or." Then it’s easy enough to choose the result that makes the most sense.
 
2. Searching using synonyms
 
Our language is rich in synonyms. Sometimes this can be very convenient when doing research online. If you need to find websites on a given subject rather
than those that include a specific phrase, add the "~" symbol to your search.
 
For example, if you search for the term "healthy ~food" you’ll get results about the principles of healthy eating, cooking recipes, as well as healthy
dining options.
 
3. Searching within websites
 
Sometimes you read an interesting article on a website and find yourself subsequently wanting to share it with your friends or simply reread it. The easiest way to find the desired piece of information again is to search within the website. To do this, type the address of the site, then a key word or entire phrase from the article, and it should come up immediately.
 
4. The power of the asterisk
 
When our cunning memory decides to prevent us from recalling that one key word, phrase, or number we need in order to find what we’re looking for, you can turn to the powerful "*" symbol. Just use this in the place of the word/phrase you can’t remember, and you should be able to find the results you’re looking for.
 
5. When lots of words are missing
 
If it’s the lengthier half of the phrase you can’t remember rather than a single key word, try writing out the first and last words and putting “AROUND
+ (the approximate number of missing words)“ between them. For example, ”I wandered AROUND(4) cloud."
 
6. Using a time frame
 
Sometimes we urgently need to acquaint ourselves with events that occurred during a certain period of time. To do so, you can add a time frame to your search query with the help of three dots between the dates. For example, if we want to find out about scientific discoveries during the 20th century, we can
write:
 
7. Searching for a title or URL
 
To help find the key words and name of an article, type “intitle:“ before the search term, without any spaces between them. In order to find the words
from a URL, use ”inurl:".
 
8. Finding similar websites
 
If you’ve found something you really like online and want to find similar websites, type in "related:" and then the address of the site, again without
a space between them.
 
9. Whole phrases
 
Framing the search term within quotation marks is the simplest and most effective way to find something specific and in the exact order you typed it in.
For example, if you type in the words I’m picking up good vibrations without quotation marks, the search engine will show the results where these words appear in any order on a website, as opposed to the specific order in which you typed them.
If, on the other hand, you type "I’m picking up good vibrations" within quotation marks, you’ll get only those results where these words appear only in the order you typed them in. This is a great way to find the lyrics to a song when you only know one line from it.
 
10. Unimportant search words
 
To remove unimportant search words from your query, simply write a minus symbol before each one. For example, if you want to find a site about interesting books, but you aren’t looking to buy them, you can write the following:


Re: the google home: early impressions

Robert Kingett <kingettr@...>
 

I wish there was a way we could send text commands to either the echo dot, or GH, and hear the result. I left feedback with Google and amazon. Even if you do not have a speech disability I know SMS INPUT would be a liked feature.


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