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Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Carlos
 

Windows 10 is based on the Windows 8/8.1 core so this is expected.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed


Hi Gene,
The file explorer of 8.1, I dare to say, is identical to 10's, with one exception, storage devices show up differently.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, January 7, 2017 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed



I knew ribbons were used in Windows 10 but I didn't know Windows 8 uses them.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed


Gene,

This command doesn't work in Windows later than 7 as 8.1 and 10 use ribbons. The keyboard command for 'folder options' is Alt + y + o.

John.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 07 January 2017 13:31
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

One of the first things you should do with any Windows machine that doesn't do this, is have file extensions read. By default, file extensions aren't shown. It doesn't matter what version of Windows is being used. File extensions should be set to be read. Issue the command Windows key e.
When Windows Explorer opens, press alt, then t for tools and o for options.
Shift tab once.
Right arrow to view.
Tab until you get to advanced settings which is a treeview.
Down arrow until 7you get to hide extensions for known file types and press enter to uncheck the check box. Then tab to and activate the ok button.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application

Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi Keith,

When you say you clicked on 'setup.exe', are you absoluteley sure it was 'setup.exe'? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several 'setup' files:

setup.bmp
setup.exe
setup.ini
setup.inx
setuptl.exe

If you clicked on one of the other files other than 'setup.exe' then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is 'e:' and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

1. Press Windows key + R;

The 'run' dialog box will appear.

2. Type (without the quotes): 'e:\setup.exe' and press the enter key;

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

HTH

John.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

I've tried that and narrator says nothing
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to 'No', so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

Keith, when the 'OK' button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

John.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Never mind. Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no
"OK"
button in the UAC prompt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed. Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the
"Yes"
button. For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common. Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience. All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi,

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

I then placed the contents of my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else. Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

Didn't do her research I'm guessing.

Thanks for any help.

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi Gene,
The file explorer of 8.1, I dare to say, is identical to 10's, with one exception, storage devices show up differently.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, January 7, 2017 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed



I knew ribbons were used in Windows 10 but I didn't know Windows 8 uses them.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed


Gene,

This command doesn't work in Windows later than 7 as 8.1 and 10 use ribbons. The keyboard command for 'folder options' is Alt + y + o.

John.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 07 January 2017 13:31
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

One of the first things you should do with any Windows machine that doesn't do this, is have file extensions read. By default, file extensions aren't shown. It doesn't matter what version of Windows is being used. File extensions should be set to be read. Issue the command Windows key e.
When Windows Explorer opens, press alt, then t for tools and o for options.
Shift tab once.
Right arrow to view.
Tab until you get to advanced settings which is a treeview.
Down arrow until 7you get to hide extensions for known file types and press enter to uncheck the check box. Then tab to and activate the ok button.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application

Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi Keith,

When you say you clicked on 'setup.exe', are you absoluteley sure it was 'setup.exe'? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several 'setup' files:

setup.bmp
setup.exe
setup.ini
setup.inx
setuptl.exe

If you clicked on one of the other files other than 'setup.exe' then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is 'e:' and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

1. Press Windows key + R;

The 'run' dialog box will appear.

2. Type (without the quotes): 'e:\setup.exe' and press the enter key;

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

HTH

John.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

I've tried that and narrator says nothing
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to 'No', so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

Keith, when the 'OK' button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

John.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Never mind. Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no
"OK"
button in the UAC prompt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed. Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the
"Yes"
button. For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common. Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience. All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi,

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

I then placed the contents of my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else. Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

Didn't do her research I'm guessing.

Thanks for any help.

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Gene
 

I did two searches with different wording and I found nothing when looking at the first number of results in either case.  This appears to be so nonstandard that it isn't generally discussed.  It may point to some problem in Windows.  If you can't make UAC show the correct dialog, you may have to set UAC to 0 if you can't correct the problem. 
 
I'm not saying you will have other problems because of the way you got the computer but in general, I would almost never buy used computers from individuals.  I would buy a manufacture refurbished computer or maybe one refurbished from a reputable dealer but there are just too many problems, possible malware, possible file corruption due to bad previous owner practices, and probably others I don't know of that I would not do this. As with all such statements, there might be the exception but in general, I wouldn't do so.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Puzzeling really. 65% is the default setting from clean install, but it is strange that this comes up rather than the ‘yes’ ‘no’ dialog.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 13:40
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Yes I'm stumped as well.  Perhaps it is related to the fact that the slider is set fairly high.  Although that still doesn't sound quite right.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 8:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Then my guess about the dialog was incorrect and it is related to UAC.  But why you see this dialog and not the standard UAC dialog is something I don't know. 

 

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I tried to install the window eyes 8.4 setup again, and the window that pops up is the following:

 

User Account control settings window

tell me more about user accounts control settings (link)

this opens the help center, which finds nothing to help the user, as I have waited for it to look up usable files

Notification level (slider, currently set at 65 percent of 100

 

okay and cancel buttons

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: Setting Timer on Instant Pot Again

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

If you are using the buttons on the front of the device.

Push the button for the pre set function you wish to use. i.e. soup.
Now after you do this and hear the beep then push the plus or minus button
to you get to the time you wish to have this function operate.

Note; if you push minus repeatedly you will hear a beep for each minute
change of time and after a while you will hear a double beat meaning the
minus menu has wrapped aroung and now you are at the highest choice of
minutes for the function.

At this point push the pluse button and you hear one beep and this is one
minute now keep pushing the pluse button and count the number of pushes to
you get to the number of minutes you wish.

Note; at this point just wait a minute or so and you will hear beep and the
selected function will automatically start and run to finished.


H t h

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rob
Sent: January 7, 2017 05:26
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting Timer on Instant Pot Again

Ok, this is kind of confusing.
I have found that I can't set the cooking timer in the Instant Pot Android
App.
Looking at the PDF manual is kind of confusing. It says the timer button is
for delayed cooking. So how do you set the actual cooking time on the thing?


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

hi,
that is true, but if it was a standard dialog, it would have read it. narrator in 8.1 is really limited.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 07/01/17 1:32 PM, Gene wrote:
You don't know that it would have read the error. The error may be
inaccessible.

Gene

*From:* Rajmund <mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 07, 2017 6:55 AM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

hi,
tried installing NVDA and use it till you sort out the other issues?
it, in this instance, would have read the error, if nothing else.
Sent from Thunderbird

On 07/01/17 10:48 AM, Keith S wrote:
I've tried that and narrator says nothing

----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Gregory <mailto:stratplayer@gmx.com>
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’,
so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at
the moment other than an error dialog box.



Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out
of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads
the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the
nature of the dialog box.



John.



*From:*main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
Behalf Of *Carlos
*Sent:* 07 January 2017 09:59
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed



Never mind. Now that I think about it, which is not often since I
don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

*To:*main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

*Sent:*Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

*Subject:*Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed



That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt
asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed. Try
running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to
select the

"Yes"

button. For the record, although there are certainly
differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many
basic things in common. Most of the issues you have experienced
so far are due to lack of experience. All of the questions you
have asked so far would for the most part have received the
same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Keith S <mailto:ks.steinbach03@gmail.com>

*To:*main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

*Sent:*Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

*Subject:*[TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed



Hi,



I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding
installing programs and was able to install classic shell to
my new windows 8 machine.



I then placed the contents of my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a
thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened
the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter
on it.



Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and
a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing
else. Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.



I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is
going on or what else I should be doing.



Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or
windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.



Didn't do her research I'm guessing.



Thanks for any help.



keith



Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Gene
 

We'll see what happens but I'm doubtful that changes will be able to be made in that dialog. 
 
I'll do a bit of searching to see if I can find any discussion. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Yes I'm stumped as well.  Perhaps it is related to the fact that the slider is set fairly high.  Although that still doesn't sound quite right.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Then my guess about the dialog was incorrect and it is related to UAC.  But why you see this dialog and not the standard UAC dialog is something I don't know. 

From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

I tried to install the window eyes 8.4 setup again, and the window that pops up is the following:
 

User Account control settings window

tell me more about user accounts control settings (link)

this opens the help center, which finds nothing to help the user, as I have waited for it to look up usable files

Notification level (slider, currently set at 65 percent of 100

 

okay and cancel buttons

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

John Gregory <stratplayer@...>
 

Puzzeling really. 65% is the default setting from clean install, but it is strange that this comes up rather than the ‘yes’ ‘no’ dialog.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 13:40
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Yes I'm stumped as well.  Perhaps it is related to the fact that the slider is set fairly high.  Although that still doesn't sound quite right.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 8:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Then my guess about the dialog was incorrect and it is related to UAC.  But why you see this dialog and not the standard UAC dialog is something I don't know. 

 

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I tried to install the window eyes 8.4 setup again, and the window that pops up is the following:

 

User Account control settings window

tell me more about user accounts control settings (link)

this opens the help center, which finds nothing to help the user, as I have waited for it to look up usable files

Notification level (slider, currently set at 65 percent of 100

 

okay and cancel buttons

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Gene
 

I knew ribbons were used in Windows 10 but I didn't know Windows 8 uses them. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Gene,

 

This command doesn’t work in Windows later than 7 as 8.1 and 10 use ribbons. The keyboard command for ‘folder options’ is Alt + y + o.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 07 January 2017 13:31
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

One of the first things you should do with any Windows machine that doesn't do this, is have file extensions read.  By default, file extensions aren't shown.  It doesn't matter what version of Windows is being used.  File extensions should be set to be read.  Issue the command Windows key e. 

When Windows Explorer opens, press alt, then t for tools and o for options.

Shift tab once.

Right arrow to view.

Tab until you get to advanced settings which is a treeview.

Down arrow until 7you get to hide extensions for known file types and press enter to uncheck the check box.  Then tab to and activate the ok button.

 

Gene

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Carlos
 

I believe that should be Alt+V+Y+O.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Gene,

 

This command doesn’t work in Windows later than 7 as 8.1 and 10 use ribbons. The keyboard command for ‘folder options’ is Alt + y + o.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 07 January 2017 13:31
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

One of the first things you should do with any Windows machine that doesn't do this, is have file extensions read.  By default, file extensions aren't shown.  It doesn't matter what version of Windows is being used.  File extensions should be set to be read.  Issue the command Windows key e. 

When Windows Explorer opens, press alt, then t for tools and o for options.

Shift tab once.

Right arrow to view.

Tab until you get to advanced settings which is a treeview.

Down arrow until 7you get to hide extensions for known file types and press enter to uncheck the check box.  Then tab to and activate the ok button.

 

Gene

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Carlos
 

Yes I'm stumped as well.  Perhaps it is related to the fact that the slider is set fairly high.  Although that still doesn't sound quite right.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Then my guess about the dialog was incorrect and it is related to UAC.  But why you see this dialog and not the standard UAC dialog is something I don't know. 

From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

I tried to install the window eyes 8.4 setup again, and the window that pops up is the following:
 

User Account control settings window

tell me more about user accounts control settings (link)

this opens the help center, which finds nothing to help the user, as I have waited for it to look up usable files

Notification level (slider, currently set at 65 percent of 100

 

okay and cancel buttons

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

John Gregory <stratplayer@...>
 

Gene,

 

This command doesn’t work in Windows later than 7 as 8.1 and 10 use ribbons. The keyboard command for ‘folder options’ is Alt + y + o.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 07 January 2017 13:31
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

One of the first things you should do with any Windows machine that doesn't do this, is have file extensions read.  By default, file extensions aren't shown.  It doesn't matter what version of Windows is being used.  File extensions should be set to be read.  Issue the command Windows key e. 

When Windows Explorer opens, press alt, then t for tools and o for options.

Shift tab once.

Right arrow to view.

Tab until you get to advanced settings which is a treeview.

Down arrow until 7you get to hide extensions for known file types and press enter to uncheck the check box.  Then tab to and activate the ok button.

 

Gene

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

John Gregory <stratplayer@...>
 

Beats me too!

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 07 January 2017 13:35
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Then my guess about the dialog was incorrect and it is related to UAC.  But why you see this dialog and not the standard UAC dialog is something I don't know. 

 

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I tried to install the window eyes 8.4 setup again, and the window that pops up is the following:

 

User Account control settings window

tell me more about user accounts control settings (link)

this opens the help center, which finds nothing to help the user, as I have waited for it to look up usable files

Notification level (slider, currently set at 65 percent of 100

 

okay and cancel buttons

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Gene
 

Then my guess about the dialog was incorrect and it is related to UAC.  But why you see this dialog and not the standard UAC dialog is something I don't know. 

From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

I tried to install the window eyes 8.4 setup again, and the window that pops up is the following:
 

User Account control settings window

tell me more about user accounts control settings (link)

this opens the help center, which finds nothing to help the user, as I have waited for it to look up usable files

Notification level (slider, currently set at 65 percent of 100

 

okay and cancel buttons

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Gene
 

You don't know that it would have read the error.  The error may be inaccessible. 
 
Gene

From: Rajmund
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

hi,
tried installing NVDA and use it till you sort out the other issues?
it, in this instance, would have read the error, if nothing else.
Sent from Thunderbird

On 07/01/17 10:48 AM, Keith S wrote:
> I've tried that and narrator says nothing
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* John Gregory <mailto:stratplayer@...>
>     *To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed
>
>     Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’,
>     so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at
>     the moment other than an error dialog box.
>
>
>
>     Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out
>     of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads
>     the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the
>     nature of the dialog box.
>
>
>
>     John.
>
>
>
>     *From:*main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
>     Behalf Of *Carlos
>     *Sent:* 07 January 2017 09:59
>     *To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io
>     *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed
>
>
>
>     Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I
>     don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no
>
>     "OK"
>
>     button in the UAC prompt.
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>
>         *From:*Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
>
>         *To:*main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
>         *Sent:*Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM
>
>         *Subject:*Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed
>
>
>
>         That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt
>         asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try
>         running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to
>         select the
>
>         "Yes"
>
>         button.  For the record, although there are certainly
>         differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many
>         basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced
>         so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you
>         have asked so far would for the most part have received the
>         same replies if you were running 7 or 10.
>
>             ----- Original Message -----
>
>             *From:*Keith S <mailto:ks.steinbach03@...>
>
>             *To:*main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
>             *Sent:*Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM
>
>             *Subject:*[TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed
>
>
>
>             Hi,
>
>
>
>             I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding
>             installing programs and was able to install classic shell to
>             my new windows 8 machine.
>
>
>
>             I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a
>             thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened
>             the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter
>             on it.
>
>
>
>             Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and
>             a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing
>             else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.
>
>
>
>             I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is
>             going on or what else I should be doing.
>
>
>
>             Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or
>             windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.
>
>
>
>             Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.
>
>
>
>             Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
>             keith
>
>



Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Gene
 

One of the first things you should do with any Windows machine that doesn't do this, is have file extensions read.  By default, file extensions aren't shown.  It doesn't matter what version of Windows is being used.  File extensions should be set to be read.  Issue the command Windows key e. 
When Windows Explorer opens, press alt, then t for tools and o for options.
Shift tab once.
Right arrow to view.
Tab until you get to advanced settings which is a treeview.
Down arrow until 7you get to hide extensions for known file types and press enter to uncheck the check box.  Then tab to and activate the ok button.
 
Gene

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: FW: YOU KNOW YOU LOVE DOGS WHEN...

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Kimsan,
 
Instead of Tech Talk, I said, Tick Talk.  You know, ticks, as in ticks & fleas!  I assume you know what ticks & fleas are?!  LOL 
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: YOU KNOW YOU LOVE DOGS WHEN...

I don’t get it Mike.

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 3:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: YOU KNOW YOU LOVE DOGS WHEN...

 

Maybe he thought this list was, * Tick Talk *.  LOL 

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 1:59 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: YOU KNOW YOU LOVE DOGS WHEN...

 

Hmm, wrong list maybe?

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 4:57 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] FW: YOU KNOW YOU LOVE DOGS WHEN...

 

You Know You Love Dogs When...

You have a kiddie wading pool in the yard, but no small children.

You have baby gates permanently installed at strategic places around the house, but no babies.

The trash basket is more or less permanently installed in the kitchen sink, to keep the dog out of it while you're at work.

You can't see out the passenger side of the windshield because there are nose-prints all over the inside.

Poop has become a source of conversation for you and your significant other.

You refer to yourselves as Mommy and Daddy.

Your dog sleeps with you.

You have 32 different names for your dog. Most make no sense, but she understands.

Your dog eats cat poop, but you still let her kiss you (but not immediately afterward, of course).

You like people who like your dog. You despise people who don't.

You carry dog biscuits in your purse or pocket at all times.

You talk about your dog the way other people talk about their kid.

You sign and send birthday/anniversary/Christmas cards from your dog.

You put an extra blanket on the bed so your dog can be comfortable.

You'd rather stay home on Saturday night and cuddle your dog than go to the movies with your sweetie.

You go to the pet supply store every Saturday because it's one of the very few places that lets you bring your dog inside, and your dog loves to go with you.

You open your purse, and that big bunch of baggies you use for pick-ups pops out.

You get an extra-long hose on your shower-massage just so you can use it to wash your dog in the tub, without making the dog sit hip-deep in water.

You don't think it's the least bit strange to stand in the back yard yelling, "Emily, pee!" over and over again, while Emily tends to play and forget what she's out there for (but what your neighbors think of your behavior is yet another story).

You and the dog come down with something like flu on the same day. Your dog sees the vet while you settle for an over-the-counter remedy from the drugstore.

Your dog is getting old and arthritic, so you go buy lumber and build her a small staircase so she can climb onto the bed by herself.

Your license plate or license plate frame mentions your dog.

Take Care.
Matt Presnell

 


Setting Timer on Instant Pot Again

Rob <captinlogic@...>
 

Ok, this is kind of confusing.
I have found that I can't set the cooking timer in the Instant Pot Android App.
Looking at the PDF manual is kind of confusing. It says the timer button is for delayed cooking. So how do you set the actual cooking time on the thing?


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Carlos
 

Yes I am aware of this. Thus the expmanation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed


hi,
he came from XP, though, which didn't have the UAC prompt. narrator should have, however, read the UAC dialog.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 07/01/17 9:55 AM, Carlos wrote:
That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if
you want to allow the installation to proceed. Try running setup again
and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the
"Yes"
button. For the record, although there are certainly differences
between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in
common. Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack
of experience. All of the questions you have asked so far would for the
most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Keith S <mailto:ks.steinbach03@gmail.com>
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM
*Subject:* [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi,

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing
programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8
machine.

I then placed the contents of my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb
drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb
drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new
window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else. Nothing was
read under the narrator TTS.

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on
or what else I should be doing.

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows
10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

Didn't do her research I'm guessing.

Thanks for any help.

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

Carlos
 

Interesting.  It is a UAC prompt, but one with
"OK/Cancel"
buttons instead of
"Yes/No".
Did you try selecting
"OK"?

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

I tried to install the window eyes 8.4 setup again, and the window that pops up is the following:
 

User Account control settings window

tell me more about user accounts control settings (link)

this opens the help center, which finds nothing to help the user, as I have waited for it to look up usable files

Notification level (slider, currently set at 65 percent of 100

 

okay and cancel buttons

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith


Re: windows 8 installing programs help needed

John Gregory <stratplayer@...>
 

Hi Keith,

 

OK, now we have something to work with. Do the same again, but this time tab to the slider and press the right arrowe key twice until it reads ‘zero’. Tab to the ‘OK’ button and press Enter. UAC will once again pop up and you should press Alt + Y to confirm that you want to turn off UAC. Now, try the ‘setup.exe’ file again and it should install.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 13:09
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I tried to install the window eyes 8.4 setup again, and the window that pops up is the following:

 

User Account control settings window

tell me more about user accounts control settings (link)

this opens the help center, which finds nothing to help the user, as I have waited for it to look up usable files

Notification level (slider, currently set at 65 percent of 100

 

okay and cancel buttons

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

the file info that narrrator read out to me was setup and then it said it was an application

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 5:11 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Keith,

 

When you say you clicked on ‘setup.exe’, are you absoluteley sure it was ‘setup.exe’? I have just had a look at the files for Window-Eyes 9.5 and there are several ‘setup’ files:

 

setup.bmp

setup.exe

setup.ini

setup.inx

setuptl.exe

 

If you clicked on one of the other files other than ‘setup.exe’ then I suspect you will get an error message. What I would suggest therefore is (assuming that your thumb drive is ‘e:’ and the WE 8.4 files are in the root folder):

 

1.       Press Windows key + R;

 

The ‘run’ dialog box will appear.

 

2.       Type (without the quotes): ‘e:\setup.exe’ and press the enter key;

 

Hopefully the WE installation will start. Note, the talking installer for Window-Eyes takes quite a while to kick in, so be patient, you will not necessarily hear anything before the talking installer loads.

 

HTH

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: 07 January 2017 10:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

I've tried that and narrator says nothing   

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi Carlos, the UAC was my first thought, but that defaults to ‘No’, so as you say, it is not UAC. Cannot think of what it could be at the moment other than an error dialog box.

 

Keith, when the ‘OK’ button comes up, have you tried Alt + Tab out of the dialog and then Alt + Tab back into it so that Narrator reads the entire box? Doing this may or may not give some idea as to the nature of the dialog box.

 

John.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 07 January 2017 09:59
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Never mind.  Now that I think about it, which is not often since I don't have UAC enabled myself, there should be no

"OK"

button in the UAC prompt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

That is most likely the User Account Control AKA UAC prompt asking if you want to allow the installation to proceed.  Try running setup again and when you hear the sound, press Alt+Y to select the

"Yes"

button.  For the record, although there are certainly differences between Windows 7, 8, and 10, they also have many basic things in common.  Most of the issues you have experienced so far are due to lack of experience.  All of the questions you have asked so far would for the most part have received the same replies if you were running 7 or 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:06 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 8 installing programs help needed

 

Hi,

 

I took several of the suggestions offered to me regarding installing programs and was able to install classic shell to my new windows 8 machine.

 

I then placed the contents of  my window eyes 8.4 cd onto a thumb drive and used the windows key plus R combo and opened the thumb drive and found the setup.exe file and hit enter on it.

 

Nothing happened, but then there was some sort of sound and a new window appeared with an okay button, but nothing else.  Nothing was read under the narrator TTS.

 

I am logged into the admin account, so I'm not sure what is going on or what else I should be doing.

 

Kind of wish I could have gotten my hands on a windows7 or windows 10 machine, but my wife got the computer for me.

 

Didn't  do her research I'm guessing.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

keith

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