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Re: reading newsline content?

Gene
 

You can disregard my previous question.  I haven't used audio files but I would still think they would be a considerably less efficient alternative than reading some sort of written format on something else.  And I wouldn't be surprised if the speech used isn't particularly good from my perspective, though I've never listened.  I very much dislike almost all of the newer synthesizers and much prefer Eloquence or DecTalk.  I'm not saying others should do this but if it were me, I'd read newsline using my screen-reader and use players for other material.
 
Gene

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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?

I have it so that I can play it on the NLS player.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?
 
I don't know how you are receiving it.  If I save something from the web site, such as the full editorial page of a newspaper, it is very easy to read using any browser that supports browse mode or whatever different browsers may call the same thing. 
If you are receiving content in some other way, such as in an e-mail let us know.  If you receive content as I described, a saved web page containing the full content of something such as an editorial page or download a full newspaper, every article can be found moving by heading.  I haven't looked to see if the full newspaper is divided into sections that you can move through by section.  I may save one section of a paper but I don't save full newspapers. 
 
It appears to me that, at least from a reader's perspective, xml documents are formatted and can be read in the same way as html documents but I've done almost no reading of xml documents.
 
Gene
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From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:30 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?
 
What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John

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Re: reading newsline content?

Gene
 

Are the web pages laid out better?  If you open a web page such as a full paper or a page such as the full editorial section in your browser, is the layout different?
 
Gene

From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?

Gene, each paper or magazine consists of 4 files, xml, nl, smil and I don't remember the other one.  IE will read the xml files but they aren't laid out the greatest.


earlier, Gene, wrote:
I don't know how you are receiving it.  If I save something from the web site, such as the full editorial page of a newspaper, it is very easy to read using any browser that supports browse mode or whatever different browsers may call the same thing. 
If you are receiving content in some other way, such as in an e-mail let us know.  If you receive content as I described, a saved web page containing the full content of something such as an editorial page or download a full newspaper, every article can be found moving by heading.  I haven't looked to see if the full newspaper is divided into sections that you can move through by section.  I may save one section of a paper but I don't save full newspapers. 
 
It appears to me that, at least from a reader's perspective, xml documents are formatted and can be read in the same way as html documents but I've done almost no reading of xml documents.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?

What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John

John


Re: reading newsline content?

Gene
 

Why download large audio files?  Why not download the web pages that contain what you want?  You can listen with your screen-reader and the download would be much faster, I assume.  And, though I haven't downloaded audio files from the site, I would think you would have much better control of what you read in terms of jumping from article to article with the web page itself. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?

When you download the stuff to your computer, it is audio files and it plays.  When I set it up, I discovered they are wav files.  So, you don’t need a program to read it.  Other than that, when I don’t use the computer with it, I just listen to it on the phone.  Pam.
 
From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:30 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?
 
What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John

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Talking TVs

John Gregory <stratplayer@...>
 

Hi Billy,

 

Please see below for a list of Samsung TVs that support ‘Voice Guide’. Apparently the model you have, if it is a 2016 model, does support ‘Voice Guide’. Can’t say more than what Samsung say, so maybe it is worthwhile getting someone to check for the ‘Accessibility’ option within the ‘Settings’ menu?

 

John.

From: Samsung Support [mailto:seuk.contactus@...]
Sent: 10 January 2017 22:43
Subject: Re: Product Information

 

This is to acknowledge that we have received your email. We appreciate you interest in checking and purchasing one of our Samsung TV products, upon checking our system, below are the Samsung 2016 TV models that are supported by voice guide:

 

        KU6000, KU6020, KU6100, KU6400, KU6450, KU6470, KU6500, KU6510, KU6640, KU6650, KU6670, KU6680, KS7000, KS7500, KS8000, KS9000, KS9500, KS9800

 

For more details and information regarding our Samsung TV models, please refer to the link provided below:

 

        http://www.samsung.com/uk/

 

I hope this information is helpful and if you require assistance with any of your Samsung products, please do not hesitate to contact us and we will always be happy to help.


If you require additional support, please contact us on 0330 726 7864 (UK) or 0818 717 100 (EIRE), or respond to this email and I will be more than happy to help.


Alternatively, you can visit our Support website where you will find FAQs, How-To-Videos and other useful information for Samsung products.

 

Kind regards,

 

Cristine S
Customer Service Representative

www.samsung.com/uk/support  

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Re: MP3 Players

Gary Greico
 

Accessible electronics has them for under a hundred.

On 1/10/2017 2:47 PM, Allen West wrote:
Hi All,

I am trying to help a student purchase an affordable MP3 player. All
of the MP3 players with speech output are too expensive for his
limited income. We are looking for a MP3 player without speech output
that is still accessible to the blind. Does anyone know of one?

Thanks

Allen



Re: reading newsline content?

john s
 

Pam, right.  That is a different format than what I get.


earlier, Pamela Dominguez, wrote:

I have it so that I can play it on the NLS player.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:06 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?
 
I don't know how you are receiving it.  If I save something from the web site, such as the full editorial page of a newspaper, it is very easy to read using any browser that supports browse mode or whatever different browsers may call the same thing. 
If you are receiving content in some other way, such as in an e-mail let us know.  If you receive content as I described, a saved web page containing the full content of something such as an editorial page or download a full newspaper, every article can be found moving by heading.  I haven't looked to see if the full newspaper is divided into sections that you can move through by section.  I may save one section of a paper but I don't save full newspapers. 
 
It appears to me that, at least from a reader's perspective, xml documents are formatted and can be read in the same way as html documents but I've done almost no reading of xml documents.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
 
From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?
 
What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John

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John


Re: reading newsline content?

Pamela Dominguez
 

Aren’t XML files the files that BARD books have?  Pam.
 

From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?
 
Gene, each paper or magazine consists of 4 files, xml, nl, smil and I don't remember the other one.  IE will read the xml files but they aren't laid out the greatest.


earlier, Gene, wrote:
I don't know how you are receiving it.  If I save something from the web site, such as the full editorial page of a newspaper, it is very easy to read using any browser that supports browse mode or whatever different browsers may call the same thing. 
If you are receiving content in some other way, such as in an e-mail let us know.  If you receive content as I described, a saved web page containing the full content of something such as an editorial page or download a full newspaper, every article can be found moving by heading.  I haven't looked to see if the full newspaper is divided into sections that you can move through by section.  I may save one section of a paper but I don't save full newspapers. 
 
It appears to me that, at least from a reader's perspective, xml documents are formatted and can be read in the same way as html documents but I've done almost no reading of xml documents.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?

What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John

John

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Re: reading newsline content?

john s
 

Pam, my attachments do not include audio files.


earlier, Pamela Dominguez, wrote:

When you download the stuff to your computer, it is audio files and it plays.  When I set it up, I discovered they are wav files.  So, you don’t need a program to read it.  Other than that, when I don’t use the computer with it, I just listen to it on the phone.  Pam.
 
From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?
 
What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John

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Re: reading newsline content?

Pamela Dominguez
 

I have it so that I can play it on the NLS player.  Pam.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?
 
I don't know how you are receiving it.  If I save something from the web site, such as the full editorial page of a newspaper, it is very easy to read using any browser that supports browse mode or whatever different browsers may call the same thing. 
If you are receiving content in some other way, such as in an e-mail let us know.  If you receive content as I described, a saved web page containing the full content of something such as an editorial page or download a full newspaper, every article can be found moving by heading.  I haven't looked to see if the full newspaper is divided into sections that you can move through by section.  I may save one section of a paper but I don't save full newspapers. 
 
It appears to me that, at least from a reader's perspective, xml documents are formatted and can be read in the same way as html documents but I've done almost no reading of xml documents.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
 
From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:30 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?
 
What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John

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Re: reading newsline content?

john s
 

Gene, each paper or magazine consists of 4 files, xml, nl, smil and I don't remember the other one.  IE will read the xml files but they aren't laid out the greatest.


earlier, Gene, wrote:

I don't know how you are receiving it.  If I save something from the web site, such as the full editorial page of a newspaper, it is very easy to read using any browser that supports browse mode or whatever different browsers may call the same thing. 
If you are receiving content in some other way, such as in an e-mail let us know.  If you receive content as I described, a saved web page containing the full content of something such as an editorial page or download a full newspaper, every article can be found moving by heading.  I haven't looked to see if the full newspaper is divided into sections that you can move through by section.  I may save one section of a paper but I don't save full newspapers. 
 
It appears to me that, at least from a reader's perspective, xml documents are formatted and can be read in the same way as html documents but I've done almost no reading of xml documents.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?

What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John

John


Re: MP3 Players

Gerald Levy
 

Incredible as it may seem, you can buy a basic, fully accessible MP3 player on EBay for about $1.49. No kidding. I have three of them myself, and the sound quality is amazing considering the low price. The player is about the size of a matchbook and has a toggle-style power switch and 3.5mm headphone jack on the right side, and a USB port on the left side. The face of the player has a large round play button surrounded by a concentric ring. The 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock positions control volume up and colume down, respectively, and the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock positions control the skip forward and backward functions, respectively. That's it. The player has no internal memory, so you have to buy an 8 gb micro SD card which costs about $4. Plus, you have to supply your own headphones and USB cable to recharge the internal lithium battery, which provides about 3 hours of playing time. You use simple copy and paste commands to add music to the player. For a buck and change, you really can't go wrong. Just visit EBay.com and type "clip MP3 player" into the search field, and take your pick of dozens of merchants who sell them for under $1.50.

Gerald
d

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen West
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] MP3 Players

Hi All,

I am trying to help a student purchase an affordable MP3 player. All
of the MP3 players with speech output are too expensive for his
limited income. We are looking for a MP3 player without speech output
that is still accessible to the blind. Does anyone know of one?

Thanks

Allen


Re: reading newsline content?

Pamela Dominguez
 

When you download the stuff to your computer, it is audio files and it plays.  When I set it up, I discovered they are wav files.  So, you don’t need a program to read it.  Other than that, when I don’t use the computer with it, I just listen to it on the phone.  Pam.
 

From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:30 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?
 
What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John

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Re: MP3 Players

Laz
 

Starting at $79.99 including earphones and USB cable at:

http://www.talkingmp3players.com/

On 1/10/17, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@centurylink.net> wrote:
what is the persons price range?
how large do they want the player to be size and capacity wise? do they want

speaker only or headphones also?


-----Original Message-----
From: Allen West
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] MP3 Players

Hi All,

I am trying to help a student purchase an affordable MP3 player. All
of the MP3 players with speech output are too expensive for his
limited income. We are looking for a MP3 player without speech output
that is still accessible to the blind. Does anyone know of one?

Thanks

Allen






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Re: MP3 Players

Dave Mitchel
 

what is the persons price range?
how large do they want the player to be size and capacity wise? do they want speaker only or headphones also?

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen West
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] MP3 Players

Hi All,

I am trying to help a student purchase an affordable MP3 player. All
of the MP3 players with speech output are too expensive for his
limited income. We are looking for a MP3 player without speech output
that is still accessible to the blind. Does anyone know of one?

Thanks

Allen


Re: MP3 Players

Lisa Belville
 

Hi. Depending on what your student's budget will allow, he may not need to go without speech. Check out http://www.talkingmp3players.com/ and take a look at the Sansa players with the Rockbox utility. There's also a DAISY/mp3 player. These are over half the price of a Victor or other players specifically for blind folks.

Lisa



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@frontier.com
Inside me there's a thin person struggling to get out, but I can usually sedate her with four or five cupcakes.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Allen West" <alwest0324@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:47 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] MP3 Players


Hi All,

I am trying to help a student purchase an affordable MP3 player. All
of the MP3 players with speech output are too expensive for his
limited income. We are looking for a MP3 player without speech output
that is still accessible to the blind. Does anyone know of one?

Thanks

Allen


MP3 Players

Allen West
 

Hi All,

I am trying to help a student purchase an affordable MP3 player. All
of the MP3 players with speech output are too expensive for his
limited income. We are looking for a MP3 player without speech output
that is still accessible to the blind. Does anyone know of one?

Thanks

Allen


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Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

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and enjoy the same protection that business Sophos users enjoy.


Re: reading newsline content?

Gary Greico
 

I use the phone, it works very well.



On 1/10/2017 7:30 AM, john s wrote:
What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John



Re: reading newsline content?

Gene
 

I don't know how you are receiving it.  If I save something from the web site, such as the full editorial page of a newspaper, it is very easy to read using any browser that supports browse mode or whatever different browsers may call the same thing. 
If you are receiving content in some other way, such as in an e-mail let us know.  If you receive content as I described, a saved web page containing the full content of something such as an editorial page or download a full newspaper, every article can be found moving by heading.  I haven't looked to see if the full newspaper is divided into sections that you can move through by section.  I may save one section of a paper but I don't save full newspapers. 
 
It appears to me that, at least from a reader's perspective, xml documents are formatted and can be read in the same way as html documents but I've done almost no reading of xml documents.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: john s
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:30 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading newsline content?

What do people use to read nfb newsline content?  I've tried a few programs but none work well.  I can read the .xml files with ie but that isn't the greatest.  FS Reader is the best I've seen but I would have to download JFW to get it.



John


talking tv's?

John Gregory <stratplayer@...>
 

Hi Billy,

Have emailed Samsung UK support to ask if they can provide any information on which UK models are equipped with the 'Voice Guide' feature. It may be that I get a different response from them than you did from RNIB, but whatever the result I will let you know.

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: John G [mailto:stratplayer@gmx.com]
Sent: 10 January 2017 14:01
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] talking tv's?

That is disgraceful! Did you ask Mark Evans why RNIB presented Samsung with an award for innovation? Seems ridiculous that a UK blind charity, who worked with Samsung UK on this feature, and the feature isn't available in the UK!

Anyway, I believe the Samsung UE40KU6400U might have the feature, but cannot be absolutely certain. It certainly has the smart remote. Perhaps you could contact Mark Evans again and ask him about the UE40KU6400U? It certainly isn't £1300, I think it is around £425 on Amazon. Really is difficult trying to determine which model has the Voice Guide, but from what I have read, it is a standard feature on all 2016 models.

Just because we are blind doesn't mean we have to buy the absolute top of the range TV - just to hear it talk back to us! The price is for the 4k Ultra High Definition technology which is absolutely useless to us, so what is the point of making it talk!

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: 10 January 2017 12:18
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] talking tv's?

hi John, no the ku6000 does not have the TTS feature.

I have been in contact with Mark Evans
Technology For Life Advisor
RNIB, and was advised that only one tv sold here in the UK has the feature, and this is the ue49ks9000 with a cost of "1300, Billy

On 09/01/2017 22:55, John Gregory wrote:
Hi Billy,

Are you sure it doesn't have Voice Guide? It doesn't work straight out of the box, it needs to be activated from within the settings, or by a press of a key combination on the Smart Remote, but I don't think the UE40KU6000U has a Smart Remote does it?

Anyway, cannot find any information on which models have Voice Guide, so assume that all current models have this. My best suggestion is to contact RNIB HelpDesk as I read that RNIB were working with Samsung UK to develop the Voice Guide and actually gave them some kind of award for accessibility.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: 09 January 2017 14:16
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] talking tv's?

hi guys, I'm trying to find out which Samsung smart televisions have
the voice guide feature TTS.
I have been in contact with Samsung, and was advised the models that
have TTS, but when I purchased the model from Amazon UK, and it arrived.
I found out to my discussed it didn't have TTS included at all.
If we cannot trust the Samsung company rep, then who can we trust?.

I now have to repack and return the television to Amazon.
I'm so angry and so so disapointed in Samsung.

Does anyone know where I can get the correct Information in what
models have the TTS Feature?.
Any help in this matter, would be really helpful indeed. remember I
live in the UK, Billy
--
cheers
Billy

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