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Re: 1 Touch to Unblock Websites

Gene
 

If malware is in the actual download, you'll get the malware as part of what is downloaded.  If you have an installer that doesn't include malware but downloads it during the time you run it, whether you can be infected or not, it may still be placed on your machine.  It doesn't matter what you use to download the installer.  It may still include or direct anyone who runs it, to a malware download.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: rajmund
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites

Hi,
But note takers can't get viruses. So in theory, I should just have one single file, that I chose to download.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites

>
>
> Not necessarily, but the stub downloader will download/install promotional
> software along with the legitimate software if you are not careful to refuse
> the included offers.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@...>
> To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites
>
>
> > Hi,
> > Do you mean the junkware is within the exicutable itself?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Carlos <carlos1106@...>
> > To: TechTalk@groups.io
> > Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:44 pm
> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> The problem is that CNET now quite often uses their own stub downloader
> >> which is what includes the promotional software.  So whether they
> >> download
> >> it directly from CNET or someone else hosting the file, there is still
> >> the
> >> risk of unintentionally installing junkware.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@...>
> >> To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:40 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites
> >>
> >>
> >> > LOL, want me to get it, and then dropbox it? Note takers are strong
> >> > enough
> >> > to hold on. Oh, this offer goes to anyone. I'm willing to download
> >> > anything, and then dropbox it.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Mohamed <malhajamy@...>
> >> > To: TechTalk@groups.io
> >> > Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:07 pm
> >> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Now if only I had an internet connection with my VM, I'd test it out
> >> >> in
> >> >> there first.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 08/31/15 05:05 PM, Carlos wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Indeed, that is a big concern with CNET downloads these days.
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: Mohamed
> >> >> To: TechTalk@groups.io
> >> >> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:56 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm concerned about the windows download, it goes to CNET downloads,
> >> >> and
> >> >> I'm concerned that there may be adware bundled with it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 08/31/15 02:17 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi All,
> >> >>
> >> >> Below is an app I came across that might benefit some of you.
> >> >>
> >> >> Fact of the day:
> >> >> Splenda was an insecticide that became a sweetener when an assistant
> >> >> misheard an order to "test" it as "taste" it.
> >> >> Things to ponder:
> >> >> Why is an Alarm Clock Going "off" when It Actually Turns on?
> >> >> One Touch to Unblock Websites | For some reasons you may not be able
> >> >> to
> >> >> visit a website due to restrictions by service providers or censorship
> >> >> by
> >> >> institutions or governments at your location. However, these geo
> >> >> limitations can easily be overcome by average users. How easily? Hey,
> >> >> it
> >> >> is just a tap on the screen.
> >> >> On a mobile device, install and run this app,
> >> >>
> >> >> Betternet
> >> >>
> >> >>  tap the "Connect" button, you can then unblock and access all
> >> >> websites
> >> >> and services including Facebook, Twitter, YouTube or other websites
> >> >> banned at your location or workplace. Simple as that.
> >> >> What this app provides is a free unlimited Virtual Private Network
> >> >> (VPN)
> >> >> service. It detects your location automatically and connects you to
> >> >> the
> >> >> nearest server that can access all websites and services, therefore
> >> >> bypassing your default server that may restrict your access right.
> >> >> Besides encrypting your data for security, this app also allows you to
> >> >> surf the Web anonymously. It changes your IP address so that your
> >> >> online
> >> >> identity is anonymous and internet activity is hidden. With this, you
> >> >> can
> >> >> gain access to geo restricted services such as Netflix that limits its
> >> >> availability to some countries only.
> >> >> Better still, this app does not impose irritating ads on the web pages
> >> >> you're browsing, though it does occasionally recommend third party
> >> >> apps
> >> >> to you. This is how Betternet works for free with no ads but covers
> >> >> its
> >> >> costs from promoters who pay Betternet in return for recommendation.
> >> >> You can install Betternet to your Android or iOS mobile devices from
> >> >> the
> >> >> links provided below, or go to the download page to get a version for
> >> >> browser extensions or the Windows desktop.
> >> >> https://www.betternet.co/#download
> >> >> Betternet is not the only VPN service as there're plenty of them in
> >> >> the
> >> >> market, some free with ads and some that you need to pay for,
> >> >> including
> >> >> several best paid VPN services reviewed by Gizmo here.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-vpn-services.htm
> >> >> Free Mobile App of the Week
> >> >> Betternet
> >> >>
> >> >> For Android Download:
> >> >>
> >> >>  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details“id=com.freevpnintouch
> >> >>
> >> >> For iPhone and iPad Download:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/unlimited-free-vpn-by-betternet/id946659216“mt=8
> >> >> Author, Jojo Yee from Gizmo Daily Tech Treats,
> >> >> August 29 2015
> >> >>
> >> >> Take care.
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Sent from a Braille Sense



Re: 1 Touch to Unblock Websites

Carlos
 

Promotional software is not the same as viruses. Also, I think you are misunderstanding how it works. You download the stub package and run it. The stub package then makes different offers such as toolbars and so on. You can usually refuse these offers, but if you are not careful to refuse them, they will be installed along with your legitimate software. So whether the person downloads this stub package directly from CNET or somewhere you have hosted the file like Dropbox, the problem will still exist.

----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


Hi,
But note takers can't get viruses. So in theory, I should just have one single file, that I chose to download.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



Not necessarily, but the stub downloader will download/install promotional
software along with the legitimate software if you are not careful to refuse
the included offers.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


Hi,
Do you mean the junkware is within the exicutable itself?

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



The problem is that CNET now quite often uses their own stub downloader
which is what includes the promotional software. So whether they
download
it directly from CNET or someone else hosting the file, there is still
the
risk of unintentionally installing junkware.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


LOL, want me to get it, and then dropbox it? Note takers are strong
enough
to hold on. Oh, this offer goes to anyone. I'm willing to download
anything, and then dropbox it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed <malhajamy@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



Now if only I had an internet connection with my VM, I'd test it out
in
there first.


On 08/31/15 05:05 PM, Carlos wrote:

Indeed, that is a big concern with CNET downloads these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


I'm concerned about the windows download, it goes to CNET downloads,
and
I'm concerned that there may be adware bundled with it.


On 08/31/15 02:17 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

Below is an app I came across that might benefit some of you.

Fact of the day:
Splenda was an insecticide that became a sweetener when an assistant
misheard an order to "test" it as "taste" it.
Things to ponder:
Why is an Alarm Clock Going "off" when It Actually Turns on?
One Touch to Unblock Websites | For some reasons you may not be able
to
visit a website due to restrictions by service providers or censorship
by
institutions or governments at your location. However, these geo
limitations can easily be overcome by average users. How easily? Hey,
it
is just a tap on the screen.
On a mobile device, install and run this app,

Betternet

tap the "Connect" button, you can then unblock and access all
websites
and services including Facebook, Twitter, YouTube or other websites
banned at your location or workplace. Simple as that.
What this app provides is a free unlimited Virtual Private Network
(VPN)
service. It detects your location automatically and connects you to
the
nearest server that can access all websites and services, therefore
bypassing your default server that may restrict your access right.
Besides encrypting your data for security, this app also allows you to
surf the Web anonymously. It changes your IP address so that your
online
identity is anonymous and internet activity is hidden. With this, you
can
gain access to geo restricted services such as Netflix that limits its
availability to some countries only.
Better still, this app does not impose irritating ads on the web pages
you're browsing, though it does occasionally recommend third party
apps
to you. This is how Betternet works for free with no ads but covers
its
costs from promoters who pay Betternet in return for recommendation.
You can install Betternet to your Android or iOS mobile devices from
the
links provided below, or go to the download page to get a version for
browser extensions or the Windows desktop.
https://www.betternet.co/#download
Betternet is not the only VPN service as there're plenty of them in
the
market, some free with ads and some that you need to pay for,
including
several best paid VPN services reviewed by Gizmo here.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-vpn-services.htm
Free Mobile App of the Week
Betternet

For Android Download:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details"id=com.freevpnintouch

For iPhone and iPad Download:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/unlimited-free-vpn-by-betternet/id946659216"mt=8
Author, Jojo Yee from Gizmo Daily Tech Treats,
August 29 2015

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!





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Re: What happened

Flor Lynch
 

Rajmund,
What myou may consider unnecessary, may be considered needful by the poster who believes that they are in urgent need of help, or where the problem being written about is a difficult one to solve unless or until one has sought differing perspectives on how it might be solved. (Think of how it was with a kernel32 error preventing a program from running Easy enough to fix when you know the answer to it which fits tyour symtpoms precisely. But if you don't know, you can't run this program on which your happiness with your computer depends. .) And you may nopt be able to describe the situation accurately enough yourself.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:55 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi Joseph,
My nightmare is to delete the exact same thing 6 damn times. And, when the person sends something in response, they send it to like 3 lists. So that makes it 8 more messages, than necessary.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:34 pm
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] What happened



Hi,
For me, the worst nightmare is when someone cross-posts the same message to
multiple lists (I did ask people on the lists I moderate to not cross-post,
or if they have to do that, either use BCC or ask the mods first).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:24 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,

Here's the thing. If I send something to this list, and the BlindTech list,
but I only put one list into the to field at the time, there's literally
literally nothing the admins can do. If there are more than one lists at the
time, that's different.

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L. Roberts <donald.roberts99@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened



Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the moderation
and sometimes the lack thereof. I very much dislike the fact that there are
more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the place.
It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times on
various lists. And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here. This
prompts a question. Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross
posted messages? Setting up filters to do this would be a huge undertaking.


Don Roberts



On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:

Welcome to the list Cristsbal. Indeed it is active. We currently have
about 98 members.

LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list
management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristsbal
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened


Wow, I don't' check the lists for a couple of days and apparently
everything goes poopoo.
So is this list actually active?
All sorts of drama on BlindTech.


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Re: 1 Touch to Unblock Websites

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi,
But note takers can't get viruses. So in theory, I should just have one single file, that I chose to download.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



Not necessarily, but the stub downloader will download/install promotional
software along with the legitimate software if you are not careful to refuse
the included offers.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


Hi,
Do you mean the junkware is within the exicutable itself?

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



The problem is that CNET now quite often uses their own stub downloader
which is what includes the promotional software. So whether they
download
it directly from CNET or someone else hosting the file, there is still
the
risk of unintentionally installing junkware.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


LOL, want me to get it, and then dropbox it? Note takers are strong
enough
to hold on. Oh, this offer goes to anyone. I'm willing to download
anything, and then dropbox it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed <malhajamy@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



Now if only I had an internet connection with my VM, I'd test it out
in
there first.


On 08/31/15 05:05 PM, Carlos wrote:

Indeed, that is a big concern with CNET downloads these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


I'm concerned about the windows download, it goes to CNET downloads,
and
I'm concerned that there may be adware bundled with it.


On 08/31/15 02:17 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

Below is an app I came across that might benefit some of you.

Fact of the day:
Splenda was an insecticide that became a sweetener when an assistant
misheard an order to "test" it as "taste" it.
Things to ponder:
Why is an Alarm Clock Going "off" when It Actually Turns on?
One Touch to Unblock Websites | For some reasons you may not be able
to
visit a website due to restrictions by service providers or censorship
by
institutions or governments at your location. However, these geo
limitations can easily be overcome by average users. How easily? Hey,
it
is just a tap on the screen.
On a mobile device, install and run this app,

Betternet

tap the "Connect" button, you can then unblock and access all
websites
and services including Facebook, Twitter, YouTube or other websites
banned at your location or workplace. Simple as that.
What this app provides is a free unlimited Virtual Private Network
(VPN)
service. It detects your location automatically and connects you to
the
nearest server that can access all websites and services, therefore
bypassing your default server that may restrict your access right.
Besides encrypting your data for security, this app also allows you to
surf the Web anonymously. It changes your IP address so that your
online
identity is anonymous and internet activity is hidden. With this, you
can
gain access to geo restricted services such as Netflix that limits its
availability to some countries only.
Better still, this app does not impose irritating ads on the web pages
you're browsing, though it does occasionally recommend third party
apps
to you. This is how Betternet works for free with no ads but covers
its
costs from promoters who pay Betternet in return for recommendation.
You can install Betternet to your Android or iOS mobile devices from
the
links provided below, or go to the download page to get a version for
browser extensions or the Windows desktop.
https://www.betternet.co/#download
Betternet is not the only VPN service as there're plenty of them in
the
market, some free with ads and some that you need to pay for,
including
several best paid VPN services reviewed by Gizmo here.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-vpn-services.htm
Free Mobile App of the Week
Betternet

For Android Download:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/detailsid=com.freevpnintouch

For iPhone and iPad Download:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/unlimited-free-vpn-by-betternet/id946659216mt=8
Author, Jojo Yee from Gizmo Daily Tech Treats,
August 29 2015

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!





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Re: What happened

Carlos
 

Hahaha.

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Yeah. Well, You can’t beat a good poster, annoyuing though they can be (except if it’s you that’s in need of urgent assistance!)
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
Of course filters will work when someone is sending to multiple list addresses in the same message, but I believe the original post was concerned with the issue of simply posting the same message to multiple lists individually which is technically not considered cross posting and cannot be handled by filters.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
 
The owner of JAWS-Users [a customized Mailman server] seems to have implemented a filter to ‘catch’ cross-posters. It seems to work well, but from time to time a cross-posted message still gets through. And when that happens, the grapes of wrath quickly descend!
 
Anyway, one can implement a BCC message rule (filter) and add refinements to it as the need arises. I had a designated BCC folder (and probably still have one on my laptop), and messages sent BCC would go there.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
Unfortunately, I'm not sure that there's really much which can be done about cross posting.  I believe this problem may come back to Gene's and other's concerns about too many lists causing user fragmentation.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
 
Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the moderation and sometimes the lack thereof.  I very much dislike the fact that there are more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the place.  It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times on various lists.  And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here.  This prompts a question.  Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross posted messages?  Setting up filters to do this would be a huge undertaking. 

Don Roberts


On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
Welcome to the list Cristóbal.  Indeed it is active.  We currently have about 98 members.
 
LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened
 

Wow, I don’t’ check the lists for a couple of days and apparently everything goes poopoo.

So is this list actually active?

All sorts of drama on BlindTech.



Re: .Opinions wanted: Should I install the upcoming updates?

jldail13@...
 

Hi,
Is there any major bugs I need to be aware of?
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPad

On Aug 31, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Juanita Martin <jordmartin@suddenlink.net> wrote:

I would.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
I would like opinions on whether or not to install the updates from Apple, when they are released in a few weeks?

Is the current beta stable
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPad



Re: 1 Touch to Unblock Websites

Carlos
 

Not necessarily, but the stub downloader will download/install promotional software along with the legitimate software if you are not careful to refuse the included offers.

----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


Hi,
Do you mean the junkware is within the exicutable itself?

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



The problem is that CNET now quite often uses their own stub downloader
which is what includes the promotional software. So whether they download
it directly from CNET or someone else hosting the file, there is still the
risk of unintentionally installing junkware.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


LOL, want me to get it, and then dropbox it? Note takers are strong enough
to hold on. Oh, this offer goes to anyone. I'm willing to download
anything, and then dropbox it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed <malhajamy@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



Now if only I had an internet connection with my VM, I'd test it out in
there first.


On 08/31/15 05:05 PM, Carlos wrote:

Indeed, that is a big concern with CNET downloads these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


I'm concerned about the windows download, it goes to CNET downloads, and
I'm concerned that there may be adware bundled with it.


On 08/31/15 02:17 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

Below is an app I came across that might benefit some of you.

Fact of the day:
Splenda was an insecticide that became a sweetener when an assistant
misheard an order to "test" it as "taste" it.
Things to ponder:
Why is an Alarm Clock Going "off" when It Actually Turns on?
One Touch to Unblock Websites | For some reasons you may not be able to
visit a website due to restrictions by service providers or censorship by
institutions or governments at your location. However, these geo
limitations can easily be overcome by average users. How easily? Hey, it
is just a tap on the screen.
On a mobile device, install and run this app,

Betternet

tap the "Connect" button, you can then unblock and access all websites
and services including Facebook, Twitter, YouTube or other websites
banned at your location or workplace. Simple as that.
What this app provides is a free unlimited Virtual Private Network (VPN)
service. It detects your location automatically and connects you to the
nearest server that can access all websites and services, therefore
bypassing your default server that may restrict your access right.
Besides encrypting your data for security, this app also allows you to
surf the Web anonymously. It changes your IP address so that your online
identity is anonymous and internet activity is hidden. With this, you can
gain access to geo restricted services such as Netflix that limits its
availability to some countries only.
Better still, this app does not impose irritating ads on the web pages
you're browsing, though it does occasionally recommend third party apps
to you. This is how Betternet works for free with no ads but covers its
costs from promoters who pay Betternet in return for recommendation.
You can install Betternet to your Android or iOS mobile devices from the
links provided below, or go to the download page to get a version for
browser extensions or the Windows desktop.
https://www.betternet.co/#download
Betternet is not the only VPN service as there're plenty of them in the
market, some free with ads and some that you need to pay for, including
several best paid VPN services reviewed by Gizmo here.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-vpn-services.htm
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Take care.
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This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!





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Sent from a Braille Sense


Re: What happened

Flor Lynch
 

Yeah. Well, You can’t beat a good poster, annoyuing though they can be (except if it’s you that’s in need of urgent assistance!)
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
Of course filters will work when someone is sending to multiple list addresses in the same message, but I believe the original post was concerned with the issue of simply posting the same message to multiple lists individually which is technically not considered cross posting and cannot be handled by filters.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
 
The owner of JAWS-Users [a customized Mailman server] seems to have implemented a filter to ‘catch’ cross-posters. It seems to work well, but from time to time a cross-posted message still gets through. And when that happens, the grapes of wrath quickly descend!
 
Anyway, one can implement a BCC message rule (filter) and add refinements to it as the need arises. I had a designated BCC folder (and probably still have one on my laptop), and messages sent BCC would go there.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
Unfortunately, I'm not sure that there's really much which can be done about cross posting.  I believe this problem may come back to Gene's and other's concerns about too many lists causing user fragmentation.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
 
Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the moderation and sometimes the lack thereof.  I very much dislike the fact that there are more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the place.  It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times on various lists.  And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here.  This prompts a question.  Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross posted messages?  Setting up filters to do this would be a huge undertaking. 

Don Roberts


On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
Welcome to the list Cristóbal.  Indeed it is active.  We currently have about 98 members.
 
LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened
 

Wow, I don’t’ check the lists for a couple of days and apparently everything goes poopoo.

So is this list actually active?

All sorts of drama on BlindTech.



Re: What happened

Carlos
 

Or I should say that it cannot be handled by filters on the part of the list admin.  It would have to be filtered by the individual members subscribed to those lists.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Of course filters will work when someone is sending to multiple list addresses in the same message, but I believe the original post was concerned with the issue of simply posting the same message to multiple lists individually which is technically not considered cross posting and cannot be handled by filters.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

The owner of JAWS-Users [a customized Mailman server] seems to have implemented a filter to ‘catch’ cross-posters. It seems to work well, but from time to time a cross-posted message still gets through. And when that happens, the grapes of wrath quickly descend!
 
Anyway, one can implement a BCC message rule (filter) and add refinements to it as the need arises. I had a designated BCC folder (and probably still have one on my laptop), and messages sent BCC would go there.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
Unfortunately, I'm not sure that there's really much which can be done about cross posting.  I believe this problem may come back to Gene's and other's concerns about too many lists causing user fragmentation.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
 
Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the moderation and sometimes the lack thereof.  I very much dislike the fact that there are more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the place.  It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times on various lists.  And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here.  This prompts a question.  Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross posted messages?  Setting up filters to do this would be a huge undertaking. 

Don Roberts


On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
Welcome to the list Cristóbal.  Indeed it is active.  We currently have about 98 members.
 
LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened
 

Wow, I don’t’ check the lists for a couple of days and apparently everything goes poopoo.

So is this list actually active?

All sorts of drama on BlindTech.



Re: What happened

Flor Lynch
 

That’s true. If you have a good system of message rules or filters, you may (depending on how the message was posted) get copy (or copies if more than one) of the message in the same folder.
 

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
Hi,
With all due respect are they actually cross posts or merely separate postings to different lists?  In my view there is a difference. I myself in an effort to obtain information have posed questions  on more than one list in separate messages never cross posting as that is a violation of many an email list’s protocols and also causes the email filters of individuals to fail.
That’s why I pointed out the difference as I don’t see a problem with the latter. Just my two cents no one asked for.
Robin
 
 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
 
Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the moderation and sometimes the lack thereof.  I very much dislike the fact that there are more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the place.  It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times on various lists.  And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here.  This prompts a question.  Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross posted messages?  Setting up filters to do this would be a huge undertaking. 

Don Roberts


On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
Welcome to the list Cristóbal.  Indeed it is active.  We currently have about 98 members.
 
LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
>From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened
 

Wow, I don’t’ check the lists for a couple of days and apparently everything goes poopoo.

So is this list actually active?

All sorts of drama on BlindTech.



Re: What happened

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi,
Same posting but to different lists. HTH

----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Frost <robini71@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened



Hi,
With all due respect are they actually cross posts or merely separate postings to different lists? In my view there is a difference. I myself in an effort to obtain information have posed questions on more than one list in separate messages never cross posting as that is a violation of many an email list's protocols and also causes the email filters of individuals to fail.
That's why I pointed out the difference as I don't see a problem with the latter. Just my two cents no one asked for.
Robin


From: Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the moderation and sometimes the lack thereof. I very much dislike the fact that there are more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the place. It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times on various lists. And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here. This prompts a question. Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross posted messages? Setting up filters to do this would be a huge undertaking.

Don Roberts



On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:

Welcome to the list Cristbal. Indeed it is active. We currently have about 98 members.

LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristbal
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened

Wow, I don't' check the lists for a couple of days and apparently everything goes poopoo.
So is this list actually active?
All sorts of drama on BlindTech.


Sent from a Braille Sense


Re: 1 Touch to Unblock Websites

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi,
Do you mean the junkware is within the exicutable itself?

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



The problem is that CNET now quite often uses their own stub downloader
which is what includes the promotional software. So whether they download
it directly from CNET or someone else hosting the file, there is still the
risk of unintentionally installing junkware.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


LOL, want me to get it, and then dropbox it? Note takers are strong enough
to hold on. Oh, this offer goes to anyone. I'm willing to download
anything, and then dropbox it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed <malhajamy@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



Now if only I had an internet connection with my VM, I'd test it out in
there first.


On 08/31/15 05:05 PM, Carlos wrote:

Indeed, that is a big concern with CNET downloads these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


I'm concerned about the windows download, it goes to CNET downloads, and
I'm concerned that there may be adware bundled with it.


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Author, Jojo Yee from Gizmo Daily Tech Treats,
August 29 2015

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!





Sent from a Braille Sense




Sent from a Braille Sense


Re: What happened

Carlos
 

Of course filters will work when someone is sending to multiple list addresses in the same message, but I believe the original post was concerned with the issue of simply posting the same message to multiple lists individually which is technically not considered cross posting and cannot be handled by filters.

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

The owner of JAWS-Users [a customized Mailman server] seems to have implemented a filter to ‘catch’ cross-posters. It seems to work well, but from time to time a cross-posted message still gets through. And when that happens, the grapes of wrath quickly descend!
 
Anyway, one can implement a BCC message rule (filter) and add refinements to it as the need arises. I had a designated BCC folder (and probably still have one on my laptop), and messages sent BCC would go there.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
Unfortunately, I'm not sure that there's really much which can be done about cross posting.  I believe this problem may come back to Gene's and other's concerns about too many lists causing user fragmentation.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
 
Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the moderation and sometimes the lack thereof.  I very much dislike the fact that there are more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the place.  It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times on various lists.  And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here.  This prompts a question.  Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross posted messages?  Setting up filters to do this would be a huge undertaking. 

Don Roberts


On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
Welcome to the list Cristóbal.  Indeed it is active.  We currently have about 98 members.
 
LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened
 

Wow, I don’t’ check the lists for a couple of days and apparently everything goes poopoo.

So is this list actually active?

All sorts of drama on BlindTech.



the results of my betternet test

Mohamed
 

Hi guys, I just recently tested betternet for windows in a virtual machine of windows xp, here are my results. The installer was quite simple, it didn't push adware on me at all, it was just a standard installer. I checked my home page in internet explorer, and it did not change it to anything. I looked through the control panel, and did not find any adware like search protect or YouTube accelerator installed anywhere. The installer was OK, but for some reason when I loaded it it wanted me to participate in some sort of survey, but I couldn't gather anything. And with NVDA, it was totally inaccessible, not even object navigation helped me out with the program and figuring it out. So as of now, I'm currently not sure about the program, it doesn't seem to bundle any type of adware, but accessibility was a total failure. Perhaps someone could test it out with other screen readers and report how accessible it was. Hope this helps you all.
PS my VM's are now connecting to the internet, I believe there was a problem with the VMware NAT service that was solved by reinstalling it. I set my connection to NAT, and it's now working.


Re: .Opinions wanted: Should I install the upcoming updates?

Juanita Martin <jordmartin@...>
 

I would.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
I would like opinions on whether or not to install the updates from Apple, when they are released in a few weeks?

Is the current beta stable
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPad


Re: What happened

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi Joseph,
My nightmare is to delete the exact same thing 6 damn times. And, when the person sends something in response, they send it to like 3 lists. So that makes it 8 more messages, than necessary.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:34 pm
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] What happened



Hi,
For me, the worst nightmare is when someone cross-posts the same message to
multiple lists (I did ask people on the lists I moderate to not cross-post,
or if they have to do that, either use BCC or ask the mods first).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:24 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,

Here's the thing. If I send something to this list, and the BlindTech list,
but I only put one list into the to field at the time, there's literally
literally nothing the admins can do. If there are more than one lists at the
time, that's different.

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L. Roberts <donald.roberts99@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened



Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the moderation
and sometimes the lack thereof. I very much dislike the fact that there are
more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the place.
It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times on
various lists. And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here. This
prompts a question. Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross
posted messages? Setting up filters to do this would be a huge undertaking.


Don Roberts



On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:

Welcome to the list Cristsbal. Indeed it is active. We currently have
about 98 members.

LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list
management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristsbal
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened


Wow, I don't' check the lists for a couple of days and apparently
everything goes poopoo.
So is this list actually active?
All sorts of drama on BlindTech.


Sent from a Braille Sense





Sent from a Braille Sense


Re: What happened

Flor Lynch
 

The owner of JAWS-Users [a customized Mailman server] seems to have implemented a filter to ‘catch’ cross-posters. It seems to work well, but from time to time a cross-posted message still gets through. And when that happens, the grapes of wrath quickly descend!
 
Anyway, one can implement a BCC message rule (filter) and add refinements to it as the need arises. I had a designated BCC folder (and probably still have one on my laptop), and messages sent BCC would go there.
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
Unfortunately, I'm not sure that there's really much which can be done about cross posting.  I believe this problem may come back to Gene's and other's concerns about too many lists causing user fragmentation.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
 
Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the moderation and sometimes the lack thereof.  I very much dislike the fact that there are more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the place.  It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times on various lists.  And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here.  This prompts a question.  Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross posted messages?  Setting up filters to do this would be a huge undertaking. 

Don Roberts


On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
Welcome to the list Cristóbal.  Indeed it is active.  We currently have about 98 members.
 
LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened
 

Wow, I don’t’ check the lists for a couple of days and apparently everything goes poopoo.

So is this list actually active?

All sorts of drama on BlindTech.



Re: What happened

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
With all due respect are they actually cross posts or merely separate postings to different lists?  In my view there is a difference. I myself in an effort to obtain information have posed questions  on more than one list in separate messages never cross posting as that is a violation of many an email list’s protocols and also causes the email filters of individuals to fail.
That’s why I pointed out the difference as I don’t see a problem with the latter. Just my two cents no one asked for.
Robin
 
 

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened
 
Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the moderation and sometimes the lack thereof.  I very much dislike the fact that there are more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the place.  It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times on various lists.  And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here.  This prompts a question.  Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross posted messages?  Setting up filters to do this would be a huge undertaking. 

Don Roberts


On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
Welcome to the list Cristóbal.  Indeed it is active.  We currently have about 98 members.
 
LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened
 

Wow, I don’t’ check the lists for a couple of days and apparently everything goes poopoo.

So is this list actually active?

All sorts of drama on BlindTech.



Re: How to reply privately

Gene
 

If you open the message, tab once, then start shift tabbing, you should get to the from line.  You may have to shift tab five or six times but you should get there.  You don't indicate that you tabbed once.  It appears you just shift tabbed.  You may not have seen my follow up message earlier in the day where I discussed the need to tab once before shift tabbing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

Nah, as I said before, it doesn't appear that it places the cursor, or whatever it is that moves about when you're pressing tab, to the same location every time you open a new message. As an example, when I opened up this last message from you and pressed shift+tab, it took me to a terms of service link. From here, yes, I can press tab once to get to the from header, but, It doesn't always place me in the same position, especially once I close and re-open the client later on to check my messages. this isn't something new though, not in any of the previous versions of NVDA or tb at least.

On 8/31/2015 3:31 PM, Gene wrote:
My later message should allow you to get to the from line very easily.  I don't know why you are seeng the send message as unavailable. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

Just went to check, and no, that doesn't work here inside tb for me. Although it does announce the from header as a sub-menu, pressing any of the arrows, or space doesn't appear to open it. Pressing the applications key on this sub-menu does bring up the menu as you describe, however, the portion of that menu that contains the email address, NVDA announces it as unavailable. Two ways I can see from this menu to grab the address would be to still use NVDA's mark and copy feature from flat review, or, there's another option a few down that says, copy email address. I'm guessing that this would copy it directly to the clipboard. I'm honestly not sure which one ends up being faster, but, I'll add that for me at least, I've found more frustrations in actually getting to where the headers begin. I'd at first thought that if you use control end to jump to the end of the message, and then press tab, it should land you on the beginning of the headers, but, this doesn't always work here. More often than not, I end up having to press tab a few times, depending on the length of the message, to actually reach the from header to copy the address.
Tc.
Blessings.
On 8/31/2015 12:09 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't use Thunderbird but I have it on my machine so I can try to see how things are done.  I hate to tell you, but you have been doing things the hard way. 
 
Open the message, shift tab to the from field, and then open the context menu.  Up or down arrow, I think up arrowing is faster but I didn't check carefully, and you will get to an item that says something like send a message to.  but instead of just stopping on that item, it would be a good idea to go through the entire menu and see what options, in addition to the send message option, are available.  When you are working with something and you can't see an easy way to do something, or even if you can see an easy way, opening the context menu and looking around is a good idea.  I'm speaking in general, not just Thunderbird. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

Are you referring to a laptop layout command when you discuss the NVDA shift down arrow command?  I'm not sure what that command would be on the desktop layout.  I suspect the desktop command is insert numpad down arrow.
 
Gene

From: Jeremy
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

It's pretty much the same in tb, just a few things of note to keep in mind, at least with NVDA. NVDA has always had some kind of strange issue with keeping focus within those areas inside the message headers, so, using the normal commands to move about through the field to copy them may not work or give you response as expected. Rather, I find it easier to use NVDA's ability to copy the text from flat review and then the NVDA command to place that in the clipboard. For me, when I tab to the field that contains the sender's address, it has it displayed as a menu, so I have to first enter that object using the NVDA+shift down arrow command. From here. I can set the start of where I wish to copy with NVDA+f9, use flat review to move to the end of the address and NVDA+f10 to copy it to the clipboard.
Hope this helps, and tc.
Blessings.
On 8/31/2015 7:58 AM, Gene wrote:
Considering how many times over the years, I see blind people on different lists not know how to respond privately to someone, here are instructions that will work on some, perhaps many, e-mail programs. 
 
Be on the message in the message list.
Open the message properties with alt enter, that is, hold alt and press enter. 
Issue the command control tab.
Try down arrowing.  If you can't down arrow, tab once.  Now try down arrowing again.  If you have to tab once, do that every time you follow this procedure before down arrowing. 
Now start down arrowing through the message headers.
There will be a lot of information but you will find a line that says from and then gives the address of the sender.
Move to the start of the address.
Then use the command shift end to select it.
Copy it to the clipboard. 
Close properties with escape.
Then start a new message and paste the address into the clipboard. 
 
Some e-mail lists won't display the original sender's address in the properties or anywhere else but many lists do. 
 
It would be a good idea if people would send instructions about how to reply privately with different e-mail programs.  I know the method I gave works in Outlook Express, Windows Live Mail and, presumably Windows Mail.  I don't know if it works in Word or Thunderbird. 
 
Gene




Re: 1 Touch to Unblock Websites

Carlos
 

The problem is that CNET now quite often uses their own stub downloader which is what includes the promotional software. So whether they download it directly from CNET or someone else hosting the file, there is still the risk of unintentionally installing junkware.

----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


LOL, want me to get it, and then dropbox it? Note takers are strong enough to hold on. Oh, this offer goes to anyone. I'm willing to download anything, and then dropbox it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed <malhajamy@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites



Now if only I had an internet connection with my VM, I'd test it out in there first.


On 08/31/15 05:05 PM, Carlos wrote:

Indeed, that is a big concern with CNET downloads these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 1 Touch to Unblock Websites


I'm concerned about the windows download, it goes to CNET downloads, and I'm concerned that there may be adware bundled with it.


On 08/31/15 02:17 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

Below is an app I came across that might benefit some of you.

Fact of the day:
Splenda was an insecticide that became a sweetener when an assistant
misheard an order to "test" it as "taste" it.
Things to ponder:
Why is an Alarm Clock Going "off" when It Actually Turns on?
One Touch to Unblock Websites | For some reasons you may not be able to visit a website due to restrictions by service providers or censorship by institutions or governments at your location. However, these geo limitations can easily be overcome by average users. How easily? Hey, it is just a tap on the screen.
On a mobile device, install and run this app,

Betternet

tap the "Connect" button, you can then unblock and access all websites and services including Facebook, Twitter, YouTube or other websites banned at your location or workplace. Simple as that.
What this app provides is a free unlimited Virtual Private Network (VPN) service. It detects your location automatically and connects you to the nearest server that can access all websites and services, therefore bypassing your default server that may restrict your access right.
Besides encrypting your data for security, this app also allows you to surf the Web anonymously. It changes your IP address so that your online identity is anonymous and internet activity is hidden. With this, you can gain access to geo restricted services such as Netflix that limits its availability to some countries only.
Better still, this app does not impose irritating ads on the web pages you're browsing, though it does occasionally recommend third party apps to you. This is how Betternet works for free with no ads but covers its costs from promoters who pay Betternet in return for recommendation.
You can install Betternet to your Android or iOS mobile devices from the links provided below, or go to the download page to get a version for browser extensions or the Windows desktop.
https://www.betternet.co/#download
Betternet is not the only VPN service as there're plenty of them in the market, some free with ads and some that you need to pay for, including several best paid VPN services reviewed by Gizmo here.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-vpn-services.htm
Free Mobile App of the Week
Betternet

For Android Download:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details"id=com.freevpnintouch

For iPhone and iPad Download:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/unlimited-free-vpn-by-betternet/id946659216"mt=8
Author, Jojo Yee from Gizmo Daily Tech Treats,
August 29 2015

Take care.
Mike
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