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Re: subscription address for blindad?

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

To subscribe to the blindjob list send an msg to

listserv@listserv.icors.org

In body of msg write: subscribe blindjob firstname lastname

Ann P.

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Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Carlos
 

Yes.  You can disable most of the privacy settings.  There are several utilities to simplify this process such as Spybot Anti-Beacon, 
but even then, how much it continues to report home to Microsoft is still in question based on a few articles I have read.  A local account is of course preferable to a Microsoft account in my opinion.  Although there is not much you can do about forced updates which has on occasion caused problems.  In particular, forced driver updates.  Supposedly the Anniversary edition has made improvements in this respect, but I have not taken the time to perform any testing.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older windows versions.



On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

You can still buy it. I saw it on Amazon. Just be careful where you buy it, there are places that sale fake copies.

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:53 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Re: intro and buying new computer

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Actually, if you have the license number, you can activate the Jaws Demo which comes with the computer.

Ann P.

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Re: intro and buying new computer

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Rhonda, suggest you go to the web site and find out. I'll even make it easier for you.

https://www.computersfortheblind.net/factsheet.html

This is the web site with their fact sheet on it. It lists prices and so on. According to what I read, you could get a basic computer for $110.00, or you could add memory and one or two other things and get away with maybe $200.00. That's for a desktop computer. The laptops cost $130.00 for the basic version. But go to the web site and check it out.

Ann P.

Original message:

how much does these comps cost or are they free,
and if you have JAWS can you instal it on them.
I am still a dinosaur, and am still using JAWS 11.0, will it work?

Psalm 118:24
This is the day the Lord has made;
We will rejoice and be glad in it
(KJV)
'If you pray about it,
don't worry about it.
If you're going to worry about it,
don't pray about it.
Because it is all in the divine order.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


I am very satisfied with the refurbished Dell Optiplex desktop I acquired
from Computers for the Blind in Texas. It has been serving me well for
almost two years, and I have not encountered any hardware problems. It has
a farily small 80gb hard drive, but this is sufficient for my needs. And
because it came with JAWS and a number of other blind-friendly programs
already installed, set-up was greatly simplified. I am so satisfied with
this computer that I acquired another one last year from CFB to serve as a
backup in case this one dies unexpectedly. Their contact number is
214-340-6328.
Gerald


-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer
Hi all,
Yes, Carlos, believe me, I know about financial difficulties. The
problem is to combine the financial constraints with something which
will serve the person's need instead of being a burden because it
doesn't meet the need at all. That's why I suggested the place in TX.
I think he may get a better computer there, from all I've heard of them.
Ann P.
Original message:

Sometimes people are limited by their funds and they have to settle for
what they can afford. Simply buying bigger and better is not always an
option for everyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy <mailto:loyrg2845@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer
If you have to buy a new computer I would suggest you get one with a
faster processor at least 3GHz and at least 500GB hard drive and 8 MB RAM.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

my only concern is with storeage on the stream. 4gigs of ram is enough for
what I do. the only real reason I'd need 8gigs ram is if I did tons of
audio editing or ran memory hungry virtual machines, which I don't do. I'm
just wondering if I could somehow save my favorite audio games, and jaws
for windows microsoft office, NVDA and a few other apps would they all fit
on the 32gigs of space? I guess I could make sure windows10 is compacted
with the command line


compact /compactos:always
running it in an admin command line will compact the OS and compress it as
small as possible. Blair gave me a free shipping label so they said I can
send it back and they will repair the laptop or replace it since its under
the 1 year warranty. if only windows10 would let me change the default
write disk to the sd card and migrate the entire users folder and all
subfolders and also the program files folders and program data folders
over to the micro sd card then storeage on the hp stream latest model with
4gigs ram would not be an issue.

On 3/20/2017 3:34 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:

My pick would be the Stream for sure... SSD over standard HD any day.
Thanks.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:29 PM Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com
<mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com>> wrote:

hi
I am new to the list. I recently bought a computer from blair technology
group. when it came in the mail and i tried setting it up with windows10
home this laptop was a special order with a 120gb solid state drive...
anyway narrator would not come on. i plugged in a external keyboard,
finnished setting it up and got it onto the desktop. through
experimenting i found the laptop's built-in keyboard has some keys that
do not work. so i called and asked for a return shipping label to send
it back and have it repaired. they are sending me one in the mail. But
my question sis this. if for some reason they cannot repair it and they
return my $220 I am then planning to get a new computer. my two choices
are these.
1. for $199, hp stream 11.6 inch screen windows10 home and latest
laptop with AMD e2 processor, 4gigs ram and 32gb EMMC storeage with
micro sd card slot. main issue is windows10 does not let you yet, use
the sd card as permanent storeage to store apps and all user data
including your %appdata% folder on the sd card. in other words you
cannot yet set the sd card as the default write disk for everything like
you can with some android devices like with my blu energy x phone.
or my second choice
2. for $289, hp f222wm 15 inch touch screen windows10 home latest laptop
with pentium n quad core, 500gb traditional spinning hard drive 4gigs ram.
but I hope blair technology group can repair or replace the computer and
give me a good refurbished working one. what do you all think?
Josh Kennedy





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Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Josh Kennedy
 

i think it ends in january 2020.



On 3/22/2017 7:27 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Does anyone know when MS support ends for Windows7?
 
James B
 
 
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Josh Kennedy
 

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older windows versions.



On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



Re: intro and buying new computer

Josh Kennedy
 

this laptop I'm using I expect could break anytime. That is why in the meantime I bought an RCA galileo pro tablet with physical keyboard dock for $80 from walmart so just in case this laptop dies I can use the android tablet. it has talkback screen reader built in, a full USB port a quad core mobile processor, 1gb ram and 32gigs storeage with micro sd slot. and it runs android 6.0 marshmallow. and I can take the screen and pull it off the magnetic keyboard dock and just take the screen away and use it as a touch screen tablet when i don't want it in laptop mode. it also has wifi and bluetooth and a headphone port and HDMI connector.

On 3/21/2017 4:07 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi,

Also, my advice would be to just use your old computer until it brakes if it still meets your needs. Newer laptops have fewer and fewer differences in performance.


On 3/21/2017 10:06 PM, Jeremy wrote:
Once again, I think that's where it becomes one's perspective on what's considered cheap and what isn't. There are plenty of people that would believe that spending anything less than 1000 dollars for a machine, most especially a laptop is dealing on the cheaper end of things. If someone is only able to spend upwards of 250 dollars on a refurbished computer and if he/she can't really wait two or three times longer, as to be able to purchase the 800 dollar one, then he/she really isn't left with much of a choice, or not by my thinking anyways.

Either way, if given the choice on which machine to purchase, at least in the ones that Josh mentioned before, I would also take the one with the mechanical drive. Even though it sounds like it might be on the upper end of what he can afford currently, it definitely sounds like the better option.
Take care.
On 3/21/2017 8:40 AM, Lenron wrote:
MI know what it's like to be broke but I am just saying. Why buy
something that you know you will need to replace sooner than later.
That just seems like bad money to me unless you really have to. I am
not saying spend over 1k on a computer and put yourself in debt but
don't just buy something because it's 50 dollars if you know you will
need to replace i t in a few months to a year. Maybe it's just how I
think.

On 3/21/17, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
LOL. But seriously, I grew up poor myself and I know first-hand that saving

is not always an option.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
People have to eat and pay bills as well. Not everyone can afford to
save.
Ah, you mean we can't live on love? Shame...










Re: intro and buying new computer

Josh Kennedy
 

do they have laptops also and do they offer at least windows10 home?

On 3/21/2017 10:49 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

I am very satisfied with the refurbished Dell Optiplex desktop I acquired from Computers for the Blind in Texas. It has been serving me well for almost two years, and I have not encountered any hardware problems. It has a farily small 80gb hard drive, but this is sufficient for my needs. And because it came with JAWS and a number of other blind-friendly programs already installed, set-up was greatly simplified. I am so satisfied with this computer that I acquired another one last year from CFB to serve as a backup in case this one dies unexpectedly. Their contact number is 214-340-6328.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

Hi all,

Yes, Carlos, believe me, I know about financial difficulties. The
problem is to combine the financial constraints with something which
will serve the person's need instead of being a burden because it
doesn't meet the need at all. That's why I suggested the place in TX.
I think he may get a better computer there, from all I've heard of them.

Ann P.

Original message:

Sometimes people are limited by their funds and they have to settle for what they can afford. Simply buying bigger and better is not always an option for everyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy <mailto:loyrg2845@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer
If you have to buy a new computer I would suggest you get one with a faster processor at least 3GHz and at least 500GB hard drive and 8 MB RAM.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

my only concern is with storeage on the stream. 4gigs of ram is enough for what I do. the only real reason I'd need 8gigs ram is if I did tons of audio editing or ran memory hungry virtual machines, which I don't do. I'm just wondering if I could somehow save my favorite audio games, and jaws for windows microsoft office, NVDA and a few other apps would they all fit on the 32gigs of space? I guess I could make sure windows10 is compacted with the command line


compact /compactos:always
running it in an admin command line will compact the OS and compress it as small as possible. Blair gave me a free shipping label so they said I can send it back and they will repair the laptop or replace it since its under the 1 year warranty. if only windows10 would let me change the default write disk to the sd card and migrate the entire users folder and all subfolders and also the program files folders and program data folders over to the micro sd card then storeage on the hp stream latest model with 4gigs ram would not be an issue.

On 3/20/2017 3:34 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:

My pick would be the Stream for sure... SSD over standard HD any day.
Thanks.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:29 PM Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com <mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com>> wrote:

hi
I am new to the list. I recently bought a computer from blair technology
group. when it came in the mail and i tried setting it up with windows10
home this laptop was a special order with a 120gb solid state drive...
anyway narrator would not come on. i plugged in a external keyboard,
finnished setting it up and got it onto the desktop. through
experimenting i found the laptop's built-in keyboard has some keys that
do not work. so i called and asked for a return shipping label to send
it back and have it repaired. they are sending me one in the mail. But
my question sis this. if for some reason they cannot repair it and they
return my $220 I am then planning to get a new computer. my two choices
are these.
1. for $199, hp stream 11.6 inch screen windows10 home and latest
laptop with AMD e2 processor, 4gigs ram and 32gb EMMC storeage with
micro sd card slot. main issue is windows10 does not let you yet, use
the sd card as permanent storeage to store apps and all user data
including your %appdata% folder on the sd card. in other words you
cannot yet set the sd card as the default write disk for everything like
you can with some android devices like with my blu energy x phone.
or my second choice
2. for $289, hp f222wm 15 inch touch screen windows10 home latest laptop
with pentium n quad core, 500gb traditional spinning hard drive 4gigs ram.
but I hope blair technology group can repair or replace the computer and
give me a good refurbished working one. what do you all think?
Josh Kennedy





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Re: intro and buying new computer

Josh Kennedy
 

now the only way i can use keynote gold is with a 15 minute demo in windows 3.1 running inside of talking dosBox.

On 3/21/2017 10:48 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
My first one was one of those 286 computers from Evas from the commission. It had Workperfekt and dos on it. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

My first computer was a hand-me-down that a friend basically gave me for
free. I just had to buy the hard drive.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
LOL. But seriously, I grew up poor myself and I know first-hand that saving
is not always an option.

That's for sure. I remember those days myself.
My first computer that I owned solely for myself was a donated one from the
university computer lab. It was one of those flat desktop models--I don't
know what you call those. It wasn't a tower, but a flat wide thing like a
tabletop. It had been lying around collecting dust, so the head lab tech
gave it to me--a lucky break.
Back then I was living on less than a hundred dollars a month, so you can
imagine what a big deal this was for me.







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Re: intro and buying new computer

Josh Kennedy
 

mine i think was a pentium 386 machine. it had dos and windows3.1 and keynote gold hardware box for its speech.

On 3/21/2017 10:48 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
My first one was one of those 286 computers from Evas from the commission. It had Workperfekt and dos on it. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

My first computer was a hand-me-down that a friend basically gave me for
free. I just had to buy the hard drive.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
LOL. But seriously, I grew up poor myself and I know first-hand that saving
is not always an option.

That's for sure. I remember those days myself.
My first computer that I owned solely for myself was a donated one from the
university computer lab. It was one of those flat desktop models--I don't
know what you call those. It wasn't a tower, but a flat wide thing like a
tabletop. It had been lying around collecting dust, so the head lab tech
gave it to me--a lucky break.
Back then I was living on less than a hundred dollars a month, so you can
imagine what a big deal this was for me.







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old pcs was Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

Josh Kennedy
 

My first computer was got for me by the school district back in late 1992. It was a keynote gold laptop with a 51mb hard drive and it ran ms-dos and windows3.1 which at the time I did not have outspoken for windows so could not use it. so I just used dos and keysoft for dos and masterTouch screen reader for dos. Now when I want to play with the old dos stuff I use the talking dosBox emulator that runs on modern windows so I can play old dos games and mess around with wordPerfect 5.1 and megaDots and things. But mostly use it for old dos games. But for its time keynote gold speech was the best around I think back in 1992. Then in mid 1996 I got a windows95 desktop. In 2002 I got a dell desktop with windows xp for college. Then I needed something more portable after college so I got a windows xp netbook. Then I went back to school for a semester or so and vocational rehab got me a macBook pro laptop in early 2010. Decided mac was not for me so played with Linux for a month in late 2012. Decided that was not for me it did not run the games and stufff I wanted. So found blair technology group, bought a windows7 laptop and then got another one from a defunct organization that gave them away for free. That one died, now presently I spent $220 on the broken laptop that has to b repaired or replaced. If not I'll ask for my money back and get the $290 touch screen windows10 laptop the one with quad core processor in it. I'll set it up clone the hard drive with macrium reflect to the ssd in my drawer and swap out the drives.

On 3/21/2017 9:44 AM, Carlos wrote:
My first computer was a hand-me-down that a friend basically gave me for free. I just had to buy the hard drive.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
LOL. But seriously, I grew up poor myself and I know first-hand that saving
is not always an option.

That's for sure. I remember those days myself.
My first computer that I owned solely for myself was a donated one from the university computer lab. It was one of those flat desktop models--I don't know what you call those. It wasn't a tower, but a flat wide thing like a tabletop. It had been lying around collecting dust, so the head lab tech gave it to me--a lucky break.
Back then I was living on less than a hundred dollars a month, so you can imagine what a big deal this was for me.





Re: orbit20 was Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

Carlos
 

I have been considering purchasing one. I'm glad to hear the project has not been abandoned. I did see that the release was delayed on the website, but many people have been skeptical about it's future because of the constant delays.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:33 AM
Subject: orbit20 was Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


yes I'm only on SSI and saving for me is difficult. In any case I'm glad blair technology group said they will fix the laptop for free or replace it due to the warranty. Then I can save up for the next two months to buy the orbit reader20 $499 braille display when it comes out. Does anyone on here plan to buy the orbit20? I am a beta/prototype tester and I have to say I am very impressed with the prototype orbit20 I am testing out.



On 3/21/2017 9:32 AM, Carlos wrote:
People have to eat and pay bills as well. Not everyone can afford to save. And junk is a matter of prospective. If a user only has basic requirements, then a basic machine may be all that they need.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenron" <lenron93@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


If I got to settle for junk I would rather save. It makes it so I
don't have to purchase something new so soon.

On 3/21/17, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
Sometimes people are limited by their funds and they have to settle for what
they can afford. Simply buying bigger and better is not always an option
for everyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


If you have to buy a new computer I would suggest you get one with a
faster processor at least 3GHz and at least 500GB hard drive and 8 MB RAM.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


my only concern is with storeage on the stream. 4gigs of ram is enough
for what I do. the only real reason I'd need 8gigs ram is if I did tons of
audio editing or ran memory hungry virtual machines, which I don't do. I'm
just wondering if I could somehow save my favorite audio games, and jaws for
windows microsoft office, NVDA and a few other apps would they all fit on
the 32gigs of space? I guess I could make sure windows10 is compacted with
the command line





compact /compactos:always




running it in an admin command line will compact the OS and compress it
as small as possible. Blair gave me a free shipping label so they said I can
send it back and they will repair the laptop or replace it since its under
the 1 year warranty. if only windows10 would let me change the default write
disk to the sd card and migrate the entire users folder and all subfolders
and also the program files folders and program data folders over to the
micro sd card then storeage on the hp stream latest model with 4gigs ram
would not be an issue.


On 3/20/2017 3:34 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:

My pick would be the Stream for sure... SSD over standard HD any day.


Thanks.



On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:29 PM Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi
I am new to the list. I recently bought a computer from blair
technology
group. when it came in the mail and i tried setting it up with
windows10
home this laptop was a special order with a 120gb solid state
drive...
anyway narrator would not come on. i plugged in a external
keyboard,
finnished setting it up and got it onto the desktop. through
experimenting i found the laptop's built-in keyboard has some keys
that
do not work. so i called and asked for a return shipping label to
send
it back and have it repaired. they are sending me one in the mail.
But
my question sis this. if for some reason they cannot repair it and
they
return my $220 I am then planning to get a new computer. my two
choices
are these.
1. for $199, hp stream 11.6 inch screen windows10 home and latest
laptop with AMD e2 processor, 4gigs ram and 32gb EMMC storeage with
micro sd card slot. main issue is windows10 does not let you yet,
use
the sd card as permanent storeage to store apps and all user data
including your %appdata% folder on the sd card. in other words you
cannot yet set the sd card as the default write disk for everything
like
you can with some android devices like with my blu energy x phone.
or my second choice
2. for $289, hp f222wm 15 inch touch screen windows10 home latest
laptop
with pentium n quad core, 500gb traditional spinning hard drive
4gigs ram.
but I hope blair technology group can repair or replace the computer
and
give me a good refurbished working one. what do you all think?

Josh Kennedy





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orbit20 was Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

Josh Kennedy
 

after I pay bills for rent, oil, tv, internet phone and netflix and electricity so everything runs I have around $370 per month. I save money by getting on budget plans for the bills and calling and getting promotions for comcast tv internet and phone to save money that way as well. as i said in another email good thing Blair technology group is letting me return the laptop for free and repair or replace it for free makes it easier to save up for the orbit reader20 $499 braille display when it comes out sometime this spring according to american printing house for the blind.

On 3/21/2017 9:38 AM, Rob wrote:
Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
LOL. But seriously, I grew up poor myself and I know first-hand that saving
is not always an option.
That's for sure. I remember those days myself.
My first computer that I owned solely for myself was a donated one from the university computer lab. It was one of those flat desktop models--I don't know what you call those. It wasn't a tower, but a flat wide thing like a tabletop. It had been lying around collecting dust, so the head lab tech gave it to me--a lucky break.
Back then I was living on less than a hundred dollars a month, so you can imagine what a big deal this was for me.


orbit20 was Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

Josh Kennedy
 

yes I'm only on SSI and saving for me is difficult. In any case I'm glad blair technology group said they will fix the laptop for free or replace it due to the warranty. Then I can save up for the next two months to buy the orbit reader20 $499 braille display when it comes out. Does anyone on here plan to buy the orbit20? I am a beta/prototype tester and I have to say I am very impressed with the prototype orbit20 I am testing out.

On 3/21/2017 9:32 AM, Carlos wrote:
People have to eat and pay bills as well. Not everyone can afford to save. And junk is a matter of prospective. If a user only has basic requirements, then a basic machine may be all that they need.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenron" <lenron93@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


If I got to settle for junk I would rather save. It makes it so I
don't have to purchase something new so soon.

On 3/21/17, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
Sometimes people are limited by their funds and they have to settle for what
they can afford. Simply buying bigger and better is not always an option
for everyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


If you have to buy a new computer I would suggest you get one with a
faster processor at least 3GHz and at least 500GB hard drive and 8 MB RAM.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


my only concern is with storeage on the stream. 4gigs of ram is enough
for what I do. the only real reason I'd need 8gigs ram is if I did tons of
audio editing or ran memory hungry virtual machines, which I don't do. I'm
just wondering if I could somehow save my favorite audio games, and jaws for
windows microsoft office, NVDA and a few other apps would they all fit on
the 32gigs of space? I guess I could make sure windows10 is compacted with
the command line





compact /compactos:always




running it in an admin command line will compact the OS and compress it
as small as possible. Blair gave me a free shipping label so they said I can
send it back and they will repair the laptop or replace it since its under
the 1 year warranty. if only windows10 would let me change the default write
disk to the sd card and migrate the entire users folder and all subfolders
and also the program files folders and program data folders over to the
micro sd card then storeage on the hp stream latest model with 4gigs ram
would not be an issue.


On 3/20/2017 3:34 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:

My pick would be the Stream for sure... SSD over standard HD any day.


Thanks.



On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:29 PM Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi
I am new to the list. I recently bought a computer from blair
technology
group. when it came in the mail and i tried setting it up with
windows10
home this laptop was a special order with a 120gb solid state
drive...
anyway narrator would not come on. i plugged in a external
keyboard,
finnished setting it up and got it onto the desktop. through
experimenting i found the laptop's built-in keyboard has some keys
that
do not work. so i called and asked for a return shipping label to
send
it back and have it repaired. they are sending me one in the mail.
But
my question sis this. if for some reason they cannot repair it and
they
return my $220 I am then planning to get a new computer. my two
choices
are these.
1. for $199, hp stream 11.6 inch screen windows10 home and latest
laptop with AMD e2 processor, 4gigs ram and 32gb EMMC storeage with
micro sd card slot. main issue is windows10 does not let you yet,
use
the sd card as permanent storeage to store apps and all user data
including your %appdata% folder on the sd card. in other words you
cannot yet set the sd card as the default write disk for everything
like
you can with some android devices like with my blu energy x phone.
or my second choice
2. for $289, hp f222wm 15 inch touch screen windows10 home latest
laptop
with pentium n quad core, 500gb traditional spinning hard drive
4gigs ram.
but I hope blair technology group can repair or replace the computer
and
give me a good refurbished working one. what do you all think?

Josh Kennedy





--

Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains
some information about the email you have just read and all
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methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine
is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-693-9271) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!





--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762




Re: intro and buying new computer

Josh Kennedy
 

yes that is true. in my case if I need something in a pinch I am limited by around $370. actually around $300 or maybe $310 because I have to buy cleaning supplies and stuff also.



On 3/21/2017 8:44 AM, Carlos wrote:
Sometimes people are limited by their funds and they have to settle for what they can afford.  Simply buying bigger and better is not always an option for everyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

If you have to buy a new computer I would suggest you get one with a faster processor at least 3GHz and at least 500GB hard drive and 8 MB RAM.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

my only concern is with storeage on the stream. 4gigs of ram is enough for what I do. the only real reason I'd need 8gigs ram is if I did tons of audio editing or ran memory hungry virtual machines, which I don't do. I'm just wondering if I could somehow save my favorite audio games, and jaws for windows microsoft office, NVDA and a few other apps would they all fit on the 32gigs of space? I guess I could make sure windows10 is compacted with the command line


compact /compactos:always


running it in an admin command line will compact the OS and compress it as small as possible. Blair gave me a free shipping label so they said I can send it back and they will repair the laptop or replace it since its under the 1 year warranty. if only windows10 would let me change the default write disk to the sd card and migrate the entire users folder and all subfolders and also the program files folders and program data folders over to the micro sd card then storeage on the hp stream latest model with 4gigs ram would not be an issue.

On 3/20/2017 3:34 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
My pick would be the Stream for sure... SSD over standard HD any day.

Thanks.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:29 PM Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
hi
I am new to the list. I recently bought a computer from blair technology
group. when it came in the mail and i tried setting it up with windows10
home this laptop was a special order with a 120gb solid state drive...
anyway narrator would not come on. i plugged in a external keyboard,
finnished setting it up and got it onto the desktop. through
experimenting i found the laptop's built-in keyboard has some keys that
do not work. so i called and asked for a return shipping label to send
it back and have it repaired. they are sending me one in the mail. But
my question sis this. if for some reason they cannot repair it and they
return my $220 I am then planning to get a new computer. my two choices
are these.
1. for $199, hp stream 11.6  inch screen windows10 home and latest
laptop with AMD e2 processor, 4gigs ram and 32gb EMMC storeage with
micro sd card slot. main issue is windows10 does not let you yet, use
the sd card as permanent storeage to store apps and all user data
including your %appdata% folder on the sd card. in other words you
cannot yet set the sd card as the default write disk for everything like
you can with some android devices like with my blu energy x phone.
or my second choice
2. for $289, hp f222wm 15 inch touch screen windows10 home latest laptop
with pentium n quad core, 500gb traditional spinning hard drive 4gigs ram.
but I hope blair technology group can repair or replace the computer and
give me a good refurbished working one. what do you all think?

Josh Kennedy




--
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains
some information about the email you have just read and all
attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and
methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (218-693-9271) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!



Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Carlos
 

2020.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Does anyone know when MS support ends for Windows7?
 
James B
 
 
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Re: windows 7, is it still available?

James Bentley
 

Does anyone know when MS support ends for Windows7?
 
James B
 
 
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Carlos
 

Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Carlos
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:53 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 

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