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Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Josh Kennedy
 

I have windows10 and I have no problem with the forced updates. I like it that way it keeps my pc secure and working good. it just updates in the background usually and i have no issues at all.



On 3/22/2017 10:35 AM, Carlos wrote:
You may be thinking of forced updates which can be deferred, but privacy settings will remain disabled if they are disabled.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Yes, but I have heard that they only stay turned off for something like three months.  Somebody else will have to tell you if I am right or not.  Pam.
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older windows versions.

 


On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



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Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Josh Kennedy
 

no once you turn them off they stay off permanently until you go in and turn them back on.



On 3/22/2017 10:30 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Yes, but I have heard that they only stay turned off for something like three months.  Somebody else will have to tell you if I am right or not.  Pam.
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older windows versions.

 


On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi,
Actually, you can purchase KNFB Reader using a local account. This is done
by signing into MSA for given apps only, not systemwide.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

with windows10 you can just go into settings and under accounts and just
tell windows to switch you over to a local account. but if you do that you
won't be able to buy apps like knfb reader. and the microsoft account is
useful for using cortana. personally I like having the microsoft account. I
also use ok google on my android phone even though it records all your
speech that you say to it. I don't mind. privacy is no issue for me because
I have nothing to hide from anyone.



On 3/22/2017 9:48 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
If you have a Microsoft Account, what do you do to close the thing?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want
a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in
older windows versions.






On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:


Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few
useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but
it also has privacy issues and forced updates. In addition, it's
"Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of
Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion. Of course, these
are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.
At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled. And fortunately,
Classic Shell
http://www.classicshell.net/
still works on Windows 10 as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rich De Steno
<mailto:ironrock@verizon.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?


Just go to Windows 10 at this point. The
Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with
installing it. There is no deadline for blind users.
Windows 10 is not difficult to use.


Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:


Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought
me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she
works at. I have window eyes installed on it, and have
installed the shell start menu program to add more to the
start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am
moving from).

Is windows 7 even still available,
and if so, where can I get it? I absolutely hate windows 8
and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so
popular in windows xp. seems that nearly every person in
the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I
heard of, used xp and now poof.

yes, the learning curve is very
steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu
somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work
with.

So, i basically have put the laptop
on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do
everything. I know, major security holes and what not due
to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.

Thanks for any info on windows 7









Re: orbit20 was Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

Josh Kennedy
 

I heard maybe in a few years they will be possibly and I repeat possibly giving out their own version of orbit readers for free. but I have no idea when this will happen. I'm guessing in a few years.

On 3/22/2017 10:08 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Isn't NLS supposed to start giving those out for free? Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: orbit20 was Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer

yes I'm only on SSI and saving for me is difficult. In any case I'm glad
blair technology group said they will fix the laptop for free or replace
it due to the warranty. Then I can save up for the next two months to
buy the orbit reader20 $499 braille display when it comes out. Does
anyone on here plan to buy the orbit20? I am a beta/prototype tester and
I have to say I am very impressed with the prototype orbit20 I am
testing out.



On 3/21/2017 9:32 AM, Carlos wrote:
People have to eat and pay bills as well. Not everyone can afford to save. And junk is a matter of prospective. If a user only has basic requirements, then a basic machine may be all that they need.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenron" <lenron93@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


If I got to settle for junk I would rather save. It makes it so I
don't have to purchase something new so soon.

On 3/21/17, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
Sometimes people are limited by their funds and they have to settle for what
they can afford. Simply buying bigger and better is not always an option
for everyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


If you have to buy a new computer I would suggest you get one with a
faster processor at least 3GHz and at least 500GB hard drive and 8 MB RAM.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] intro and buying new computer


my only concern is with storeage on the stream. 4gigs of ram is enough
for what I do. the only real reason I'd need 8gigs ram is if I did tons of
audio editing or ran memory hungry virtual machines, which I don't do. I'm
just wondering if I could somehow save my favorite audio games, and jaws for
windows microsoft office, NVDA and a few other apps would they all fit on
the 32gigs of space? I guess I could make sure windows10 is compacted with
the command line





compact /compactos:always




running it in an admin command line will compact the OS and compress it
as small as possible. Blair gave me a free shipping label so they said I can
send it back and they will repair the laptop or replace it since its under
the 1 year warranty. if only windows10 would let me change the default write
disk to the sd card and migrate the entire users folder and all subfolders
and also the program files folders and program data folders over to the
micro sd card then storeage on the hp stream latest model with 4gigs ram
would not be an issue.


On 3/20/2017 3:34 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:

My pick would be the Stream for sure... SSD over standard HD any day.


Thanks.



On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:29 PM Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi
I am new to the list. I recently bought a computer from blair
technology
group. when it came in the mail and i tried setting it up with
windows10
home this laptop was a special order with a 120gb solid state
drive...
anyway narrator would not come on. i plugged in a external
keyboard,
finnished setting it up and got it onto the desktop. through
experimenting i found the laptop's built-in keyboard has some keys
that
do not work. so i called and asked for a return shipping label to
send
it back and have it repaired. they are sending me one in the mail.
But
my question sis this. if for some reason they cannot repair it and
they
return my $220 I am then planning to get a new computer. my two
choices
are these.
1. for $199, hp stream 11.6 inch screen windows10 home and latest
laptop with AMD e2 processor, 4gigs ram and 32gb EMMC storeage with
micro sd card slot. main issue is windows10 does not let you yet,
use
the sd card as permanent storeage to store apps and all user data
including your %appdata% folder on the sd card. in other words you
cannot yet set the sd card as the default write disk for everything
like
you can with some android devices like with my blu energy x phone.
or my second choice
2. for $289, hp f222wm 15 inch touch screen windows10 home latest
laptop
with pentium n quad core, 500gb traditional spinning hard drive
4gigs ram.
but I hope blair technology group can repair or replace the computer
and
give me a good refurbished working one. what do you all think?

Josh Kennedy





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Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Josh Kennedy
 

with windows10 you can just go into settings and under accounts and just tell windows to switch you over to a local account. but if you do that you won't be able to buy apps like knfb reader. and the microsoft account is useful for using cortana. personally I like having the microsoft account. I also use ok google on my android phone even though it records all your speech that you say to it. I don't mind. privacy is no issue for me because I have nothing to hide from anyone.

On 3/22/2017 9:48 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
If you have a Microsoft Account, what do you do to close the
thing?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do
not want a microsoft account you can just make a local
account like you did in older windows versions.






On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:


Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved
security, a few useful new features, support for newer
hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and
forced updates. In addition, it's "Start" menu does not
resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at
all and is not very useful in my opinion. Of course, these
are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.
At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled. And
fortunately, Classic Shell
http://www.classicshell.net/
still works on Windows 10 as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rich De Steno
<mailto:ironrock@verizon.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it
still available?


Just go to Windows 10 at this point. The
Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with
installing it. There is no deadline for blind users.
Windows 10 is not difficult to use.


Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:


Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought
me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she
works at. I have window eyes installed on it, and have
installed the shell start menu program to add more to the
start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am
moving from).

Is windows 7 even still available,
and if so, where can I get it? I absolutely hate windows 8
and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so
popular in windows xp. seems that nearly every person in
the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I
heard of, used xp and now poof.

yes, the learning curve is very
steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu
somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work
with.

So, i basically have put the laptop
on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do
everything. I know, major security holes and what not due
to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.

Thanks for any info on windows 7








Re: Chrome - set up for JAWS

Onwardbob
 

Thanks much for a rather complete answer.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chrome - set up for JAWS

The following may be much more discussion than some people want and they may
want to skip most of the message. Others may find this amount of discussion
and information useful.

I didn't say anything about ease of use. I said that no settings need be
changed but that I think the setting I discussed should be changed. I don't
like the Chrome interface. Almost everything, from settings to history to
the downloads information when you are downloading a file or looking at past
downloads is displayed as a web page. At times, you have to move between
the virtual cursor or equivalent and forms mode or equivalent. Some quick
navigation commands that would allow faster navigation of these pages such
as in settings don't work. At times you have to tab repeatedly to find
something.

For browsing, any screen-reader that supports the virtual pc cursor or
equivalent works identically regardless of browser when looking at a web
page. Since you are working with the virtual pc ccursor or equivalent, you
are working with your screen-reader regardless of browser.

When I say that, I'm not saying that every link or every control is always
displayed with identical text from one screen-reader to another. on one
page I use, one button is read with one bit of text with one screen-reader
and with another bit of text with another. it's clear what the button does
but the information that is read isn't identical. Some screen-readers work
better on some pages and some on others. At times, these differences matter
and at times they are not important but the commands you use and how you
move is identical regardless of what browser you use. Some people may be
reluctant to try other browsers because they don't know that.

These days, some people say Chrome is faster than Firefox or Internet
Explorer. I don't know if or to what extent that is true. I've heard a
complaint here and there about Firefox not working well with as many sites
as it used to. I don't know to what extent that occurs or if it's enough to
matter. I have three browsers and I use the one that does the best job on a
site if there is a difference important enough to matter.

I generally use Firefox because I prefer the interface to Chrome and
Internet Explorer. And Firefox has a feature people may want to use that is
available as a Chrome add on but when I tried the chrome add on, I found it
inaccessible. It's possible that it can be used and that there is something
I don't know but I doubt it.
Firefox has a feature for removing lots of items and extraneous text from
pages containing articles. it is called reading view and is in the view
menu. It only is available on pages with articles. Firefox uses an
algorithm that tells it when to make reading view available. Some or many
users may find this feature of value.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chrome - set up for JAWS

Hey Gene, is Chrome really that easy to work with now? I have the latest
W-10 and J-18...thanks!

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:14 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chrome - set up for JAWS

You don't have to change settings. But since images are used at times to
distribute malware, turning off downloading of images is a good idea.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Reed Poynter <mailto:reed.poynter@telus.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Chrome - set up for JAWS


Hello,



I've just installed the Chrome browser on my Windows 10 machine running JAWS
Version 18.0.2530.

What Chrome and/or JAWS settings should be used to make the JAWS experience
the best they can be?



Thanks,



Reed


Re: windows 7, is it still available?

Josh Kennedy
 

I am currently signed in with a microsoft account. When I get my repaired laptop I plan on buying the knfb reader for windows and for that I need a microsoft account.



On 3/22/2017 9:00 AM, Carlos wrote:
Yes.  You can disable most of the privacy settings.  There are several utilities to simplify this process such as Spybot Anti-Beacon, 
but even then, how much it continues to report home to Microsoft is still in question based on a few articles I have read.  A local account is of course preferable to a Microsoft account in my opinion.  Although there is not much you can do about forced updates which has on occasion caused problems.  In particular, forced driver updates.  Supposedly the Anniversary edition has made improvements in this respect, but I have not taken the time to perform any testing.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older windows versions.



On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 




Re: windows 7, is it still available?

enes sarıbaş
 

the creator's update allows you to fine tune the privacy settings. Btw, the changes are perminent.


On 3/22/2017 5:30 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Yes, but I have heard that they only stay turned off for something like three months.  Somebody else will have to tell you if I am right or not.  Pam.
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older windows versions.

 


On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



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Re: windows 7, is it still available?

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

get win10 from microsoft's offer.


On 3/22/2017 1:53 PM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Re: LAPTOP BAREBONES?

enes sarıbaş
 

additionally, I don't want microsoft's windows 10 home single language. I would take my pro lisence anyday. So, free dos it is for my next laptop if I can find a machine. Btw, sometimes the savings even exceed 700 liras for the same machine with and without windows.

On 3/22/2017 5:31 PM, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi,

I believe you're quite right for Turkey. However, in western Europe
and North America, there is not really a significant amount of savings for
purchasing without an operating system. In fact, it may cost more, again,
because the buyer does not benefit from the subsidies of bloatware, any
economies of scale, and so on. Keep in mind, also, that as blind users, we
have other ways to drive costs down for ourselves and divert funds into
hardware. For example, we don't need a screen, and can therefore buy
something like the Gigabyte Brix, Intel NUC, etc, get a bluetooth keyboard
and a battery, and thus spend a good deal less and get a good deal more
memory, processor speed, and hard drive space/speed.
HTH,
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
enes saribas
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 3:22 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] LAPTOP BAREBONES?

hi,

Still, there is a significant amount of saving. In turkey for instance, at
least 300-500 turkish liras. I could spend that extra 500 liras on better
hardware specs for my system.


On 3/22/2017 12:11 AM, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi Olusegun,

There are a few providers who can provide this. See, for example
https://minifree.org/ or https://system76.com/
These may come with Linux or with nothing at all, but in both cases,
you can format without booting and install whatever you like without
issues on them. Keep two things in mind, if I may raise them, though.
First, if you're doing this to save money, I would suggest that it
isn't going to help, simply because Windows machines include allot of
garbage software which helps lower their price. Frankly, with what
most companies think of security, it's not wise at this point to use a
computer out of the box, whenever I get a computer for myself or
anyone else, I wipe the drive, install the OS of choice from trusted
media, install any drivers which are needed, and go from there. You
never see any of the garbage if you do this. Note that even this isn't
secure, as Lenovo has taught us, but It's the best one can do without
serious inconvenience in my view though I welcome correction. Since
I'm going to do that anyway, I see no reason to spend more than I
must, I might as well take advantage of the subsidy the bloatware
providers and Microsoft are providing, if any.
Secondly, if you're doing this obtaining of a no OS laptop for
security purposes, there's nothing secure enough, in my view. To lower
the security risk as much as possible, I would get a used machine like
a Thinkpad, pull the hard drive, and then install a new hard drive or
sSSD with my own OS. This still poses some risk, but it is reduced.
HTH,
Aman



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] LAPTOP BAREBONES?

Chief Aman, sorry for not being clear enough! Youthful exuberance,
which ought to have worn out, caused me to push the SEND button
prematurely.
Yes, the barebone laptop can have a hard drive, but not formatted;
yes, it can have memory, graphics card, at least a 15.4-inch screen, a
full-size keyboard, but no OS installed.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado













Re: LAPTOP BAREBONES?

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

I doubt modern laptops have an option to get a crappy screen. Top of the line laptops come built with high end graphics cards and fhd screens by default

On 3/22/2017 5:31 PM, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi,

I believe you're quite right for Turkey. However, in western Europe
and North America, there is not really a significant amount of savings for
purchasing without an operating system. In fact, it may cost more, again,
because the buyer does not benefit from the subsidies of bloatware, any
economies of scale, and so on. Keep in mind, also, that as blind users, we
have other ways to drive costs down for ourselves and divert funds into
hardware. For example, we don't need a screen, and can therefore buy
something like the Gigabyte Brix, Intel NUC, etc, get a bluetooth keyboard
and a battery, and thus spend a good deal less and get a good deal more
memory, processor speed, and hard drive space/speed.
HTH,
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
enes saribas
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 3:22 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] LAPTOP BAREBONES?

hi,

Still, there is a significant amount of saving. In turkey for instance, at
least 300-500 turkish liras. I could spend that extra 500 liras on better
hardware specs for my system.


On 3/22/2017 12:11 AM, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi Olusegun,

There are a few providers who can provide this. See, for example
https://minifree.org/ or https://system76.com/
These may come with Linux or with nothing at all, but in both cases,
you can format without booting and install whatever you like without
issues on them. Keep two things in mind, if I may raise them, though.
First, if you're doing this to save money, I would suggest that it
isn't going to help, simply because Windows machines include allot of
garbage software which helps lower their price. Frankly, with what
most companies think of security, it's not wise at this point to use a
computer out of the box, whenever I get a computer for myself or
anyone else, I wipe the drive, install the OS of choice from trusted
media, install any drivers which are needed, and go from there. You
never see any of the garbage if you do this. Note that even this isn't
secure, as Lenovo has taught us, but It's the best one can do without
serious inconvenience in my view though I welcome correction. Since
I'm going to do that anyway, I see no reason to spend more than I
must, I might as well take advantage of the subsidy the bloatware
providers and Microsoft are providing, if any.
Secondly, if you're doing this obtaining of a no OS laptop for
security purposes, there's nothing secure enough, in my view. To lower
the security risk as much as possible, I would get a used machine like
a Thinkpad, pull the hard drive, and then install a new hard drive or
sSSD with my own OS. This still poses some risk, but it is reduced.
HTH,
Aman



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] LAPTOP BAREBONES?

Chief Aman, sorry for not being clear enough! Youthful exuberance,
which ought to have worn out, caused me to push the SEND button
prematurely.
Yes, the barebone laptop can have a hard drive, but not formatted;
yes, it can have memory, graphics card, at least a 15.4-inch screen, a
full-size keyboard, but no OS installed.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado













Re: finding windows 7

Sugar
 

Ok will do as  soon as my working pair of eyes get home..smile thanks

 

I'm in my own little world, but thats ok everybody knows me here

Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

As I said, to use the recovery partition, you don't need the number so don't worry about it for now.  What you should be trying to find are instructions on how to access the recovery options for your particular model.  If you cannot find the information yourself, then at least try to obtain the model number and post it here so we can research it for you.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:55 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

I do have sighted help but once I find this number then what?

Sorry I am just lost about this.

I am given all this wonderful advice but not sure how to put to practice.

 

I'm in my own little world, but thats ok everybody knows me here

Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

It appears from one of your early messages that you have sighted help available.  You don't need a tech to do this and I suspect he might charge you fifty dollars.  If you can find the instructions for your brand and model, any sighted person who knows enough about computers to follow simple instructions such as to press this key or that key and then do this or that next, etc. can run it.  It is intended to be used without needing technical help.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:04 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Ok so let me ask this, in my case where all I get is that error note, all I do is tell the tech person therecovery partition and they can take oover from there?

sugar

 

I'm in my own little world, but thats ok everybody knows me here

Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

You don't need the product key on the COA key sticker if you are going to use the recovery partition which is the better option.  The product key is only needed if you wind up having to use an installation disc.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:42 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

No problem Carlos, I have received very helpful suggestions here.

At this point I am stuck and the only way is to reinstall the windows 7 but before this I will try to figure out how to work with the number at the bottom of the lap top

Still not sure how that can work, if the tech people over the phone can do this or maybe I am better off to take it to the PCstation in town as Joseph suggested.

 

I'm in my own little world, but thats ok everybody knows me here

Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Yes.  I misunderstood your previous message.  I thought you indicated you were able to boot into Safe Mode.  My apologies.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:11 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Carlos

I can’t even get pass the error windows.

Thanks

sugar

I'm in my own little world, but thats ok everybody knows me here

Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

You may also want to try System Restore to resolve the issue before attempting any kind of recovery/reinstallation.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Hi

Let me give a little background, sorry about any confusion.

Jaws is not speaking to me right now so I had my husband talk to AT&T tech support.

We are paying for this support.

The error states that there was a malfunction or error in removing or installing a hard drive and if this error keeps appearing that I was to call the manufacture.

There was never an external drive attached.

So after Daniel(husband) turned the laptop on and was talking to the tech person he had Daniel start the lap top with the safe mode and in that boot list of options, he tried all of them and nothing

We tried repair mode, and the other 3 or 4 options.

It is running but we were told that possible we would have to reinstall the windows 7 due to a possible corruption to the hard drive or files.

Since we could not even get on line for them to access it we tried everything possible as far as we know and nothing.

 

When I received my lap top the tech company installed windows 7 and did not give me a backup disk because they downloaded it all from the internet or from their resources….

So now that I am needing it I don’t know how to retrieve it or get it

If I have to I will purchase it but if I don’t have to then I won’t.

I use windows 7, Microsoft 2010.

So any suggestions or directions would be appreciated.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Do you know the reason for the crash and do you know that the laptop is working properly?  How did AT&T determine anything if they couldn't remote into your computer?  I would suggest being more skeptical of technical support in general.  And, unless you are very confident of the information you get or unless it isn't practical, ask about the information here before taking actions. 

 

Why did you call AT&T, which isn't a computer company, about the problem?  The support staff helps with problems related to AT&T service and you haven't indicated this problem is related to that.  Is there something we don't know?  Perhaps that's why the person told you to reinstall Windows.  Unless there is something we don't know, that isn't proper advice. 

 

computers these days usually have a restore utility built in.  During boot up, you follow a certain procedure to have the computer returned to the factory state with Windows and anything else that was on the computer at the time of distribution restored.  In other words, the computer should be in the state it was in when you purchased it.  You need sighted help to follow the procedure.  it occurs before Windows starts to boot and there is no speech.  Different computers have different procedures for the factory restore option.  If you tell us what brand and model, if you know the model, you have, someone might be able to tell you the procedure or where to find it.  You don't reinstall Windows on a laptop in general because that means looking for proprietary drivers and also some laptops may have certain features that won't function unless the company's version of Windows is used. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:02 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Hi everyone

My lap top crashed and I will have to reinstall Windows 7, so I was told by the AT&T Tech support.

I was never given the CD for Windows 7 so I was wondering if there was a way or a place I can download the program?

Just thought I’d ask.

Thanks

Sugar

 

A wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard.
Why can’t we all be like that wise old bird?

– Edward Hersey Richards

-So True, Sugar

 

 


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Re: finding windows 7

Sugar
 

Great. Thank you so much.

Sugar

 

I'm in my own little world, but thats ok everybody knows me here

Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

To clarify, when you said, "this number", I thought you were referring to the product key I mentioned earlier.  But yes, you do need the model number before you can proceed.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

As I said, to use the recovery partition, you don't need the number so don't worry about it for now.  What you should be trying to find are instructions on how to access the recovery options for your particular model.  If you cannot find the information yourself, then at least try to obtain the model number and post it here so we can research it for you.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:55 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

I do have sighted help but once I find this number then what?

Sorry I am just lost about this.

I am given all this wonderful advice but not sure how to put to practice.

 

I'm in my own little world, but thats ok everybody knows me here

Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

It appears from one of your early messages that you have sighted help available.  You don't need a tech to do this and I suspect he might charge you fifty dollars.  If you can find the instructions for your brand and model, any sighted person who knows enough about computers to follow simple instructions such as to press this key or that key and then do this or that next, etc. can run it.  It is intended to be used without needing technical help.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:04 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Ok so let me ask this, in my case where all I get is that error note, all I do is tell the tech person therecovery partition and they can take oover from there?

sugar

 

I'm in my own little world, but thats ok everybody knows me here

Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

You don't need the product key on the COA key sticker if you are going to use the recovery partition which is the better option.  The product key is only needed if you wind up having to use an installation disc.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:42 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

No problem Carlos, I have received very helpful suggestions here.

At this point I am stuck and the only way is to reinstall the windows 7 but before this I will try to figure out how to work with the number at the bottom of the lap top

Still not sure how that can work, if the tech people over the phone can do this or maybe I am better off to take it to the PCstation in town as Joseph suggested.

 

I'm in my own little world, but thats ok everybody knows me here

Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Yes.  I misunderstood your previous message.  I thought you indicated you were able to boot into Safe Mode.  My apologies.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:11 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Carlos

I can’t even get pass the error windows.

Thanks

sugar

I'm in my own little world, but thats ok everybody knows me here

Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

You may also want to try System Restore to resolve the issue before attempting any kind of recovery/reinstallation.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Hi

Let me give a little background, sorry about any confusion.

Jaws is not speaking to me right now so I had my husband talk to AT&T tech support.

We are paying for this support.

The error states that there was a malfunction or error in removing or installing a hard drive and if this error keeps appearing that I was to call the manufacture.

There was never an external drive attached.

So after Daniel(husband) turned the laptop on and was talking to the tech person he had Daniel start the lap top with the safe mode and in that boot list of options, he tried all of them and nothing

We tried repair mode, and the other 3 or 4 options.

It is running but we were told that possible we would have to reinstall the windows 7 due to a possible corruption to the hard drive or files.

Since we could not even get on line for them to access it we tried everything possible as far as we know and nothing.

 

When I received my lap top the tech company installed windows 7 and did not give me a backup disk because they downloaded it all from the internet or from their resources….

So now that I am needing it I don’t know how to retrieve it or get it

If I have to I will purchase it but if I don’t have to then I won’t.

I use windows 7, Microsoft 2010.

So any suggestions or directions would be appreciated.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Do you know the reason for the crash and do you know that the laptop is working properly?  How did AT&T determine anything if they couldn't remote into your computer?  I would suggest being more skeptical of technical support in general.  And, unless you are very confident of the information you get or unless it isn't practical, ask about the information here before taking actions. 

 

Why did you call AT&T, which isn't a computer company, about the problem?  The support staff helps with problems related to AT&T service and you haven't indicated this problem is related to that.  Is there something we don't know?  Perhaps that's why the person told you to reinstall Windows.  Unless there is something we don't know, that isn't proper advice. 

 

computers these days usually have a restore utility built in.  During boot up, you follow a certain procedure to have the computer returned to the factory state with Windows and anything else that was on the computer at the time of distribution restored.  In other words, the computer should be in the state it was in when you purchased it.  You need sighted help to follow the procedure.  it occurs before Windows starts to boot and there is no speech.  Different computers have different procedures for the factory restore option.  If you tell us what brand and model, if you know the model, you have, someone might be able to tell you the procedure or where to find it.  You don't reinstall Windows on a laptop in general because that means looking for proprietary drivers and also some laptops may have certain features that won't function unless the company's version of Windows is used. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:02 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] finding windows 7

 

Hi everyone

My lap top crashed and I will have to reinstall Windows 7, so I was told by the AT&T Tech support.

I was never given the CD for Windows 7 so I was wondering if there was a way or a place I can download the program?

Just thought I’d ask.

Thanks

Sugar

 

A wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard.
Why can’t we all be like that wise old bird?

– Edward Hersey Richards

-So True, Sugar

 

 


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Re: thoughts on total recorder?

Gene
 

When this topic was discussed last, as I recall, you were looking for a way to record a skipe conversation without recording the screen-reader.  Stereo mix won't do that unless you have the screen-reader sending audio through a different sound card than the one being used to record.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thoughts on total recorder?

You can use any recording program to record anything.  But why pay for a recorder for recording conversation.  If you are asking because you are still looking for a program to record Skipe with, I see no reason to use Total Recorder over any other. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:51 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] thoughts on total recorder?

Hi,

Anyone use this beast for recording, recording anything for the sake of conversation that is?

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: thoughts on total recorder?

Gene
 

You can use any recording program to record anything.  But why pay for a recorder for recording conversation.  If you are asking because you are still looking for a program to record Skipe with, I see no reason to use Total Recorder over any other. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:51 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] thoughts on total recorder?

Hi,

Anyone use this beast for recording, recording anything for the sake of conversation that is?

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: Chrome - set up for JAWS

Gene
 

The following may be much more discussion than some people want and they may want to skip most of the message.  Others may find this amount of discussion and information useful.
 
I didn't say anything about ease of use.  I said that no settings need be changed but that I think the setting I discussed should be changed.  I don't like the Chrome interface.  Almost everything, from settings to history to the downloads information when you are downloading a file or looking at past downloads is displayed as a web page.  At times, you have to move between the virtual cursor or equivalent and forms mode or equivalent.  Some quick navigation commands that would allow faster navigation of these pages such as in settings don't work.  At times you have to tab repeatedly to find something. 
 
For browsing, any screen-reader that supports the virtual pc cursor or equivalent works identically regardless of browser when looking at a web page.  Since you are working with the virtual pc ccursor or equivalent, you are working with your screen-reader regardless of browser.
 
When I say that, I'm not saying that every link or every control is always displayed with identical text from one screen-reader to another.  on one page I use, one button is read with one bit of text with one screen-reader and with another bit of text with another.  it's clear what the button does but the information that is read isn't identical.  Some screen-readers work better on some pages and some on others.  At times, these differences matter and at times they are not important but the commands you use and how you move is identical regardless of what browser you use. Some people may be reluctant to try other browsers because they don't know that. 
 
These days, some people say Chrome is faster than Firefox or Internet Explorer.  I don't know if or to what extent that is true.  I've heard a complaint here and there about Firefox not working well with as many sites as it used to.  I don't know to what extent that occurs or if it's enough to matter.  I have three browsers and I use the one that does the best job on a site if there is a difference important enough to matter. 
 
I generally use Firefox because I prefer the interface to Chrome and Internet Explorer.  And Firefox has a feature people may want to use that is available as a Chrome add on but when I tried the chrome add on, I found it inaccessible.  It's possible that it can be used and that there is something I don't know but I doubt it.
Firefox has a feature for removing lots of items and extraneous text from pages containing articles.  it is called reading view and is in the view menu.  It only is available on pages with articles.  Firefox uses an algorithm that tells it when to make reading view available.  Some or many users may find this feature of value. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chrome - set up for JAWS

Hey Gene, is Chrome really that easy to work with now? I have the latest
W-10 and J-18...thanks!

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:14 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chrome - set up for JAWS

You don't have to change settings.  But since images are used at times to
distribute malware, turning off downloading of images is a good idea. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Reed Poynter <mailto:reed.poynter@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Chrome - set up for JAWS


Hello,

 

I've just installed the Chrome browser on my Windows 10 machine running JAWS
Version 18.0.2530.

What Chrome and/or JAWS settings should be used to make the JAWS experience
the best they can be?

 

Thanks,

 

Reed






Re: thoughts on total recorder?

Carlos
 

I did answer your question.  It depends on the sound card and it's drivers, not on the version of Windows.  In other words, some sound cards in Windows 10 will have that feature, and others will not.  Just like in other versions of Windows.  It is not a Windows 10, Windows 8, or Windows 7 specific feature.  Again it is a sound card specific feature.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thoughts on total recorder?

Thanks for not answering the question.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

That feature has nothing to do with the version of Windows.  It is sound card/driver specific.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thoughts on total recorder?

Does windows 10 have stereomix?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Yes.  Total Recorder essentially does what my Virtual Recorder utility does, but with a lot more flexibility.  It uses a virtual driver which allows you to record anything playing through the sound card, even if your sound card does not support the
"What You Hear"/"Stereo Mix"
option.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:51 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] thoughts on total recorder?

Hi,

Anyone use this beast for recording, recording anything for the sake of conversation that is?

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...


Re: thoughts on total recorder?

Kimsan
 

Thanks for not answering the question.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

That feature has nothing to do with the version of Windows.  It is sound card/driver specific.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thoughts on total recorder?

Does windows 10 have stereomix?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Yes.  Total Recorder essentially does what my Virtual Recorder utility does, but with a lot more flexibility.  It uses a virtual driver which allows you to record anything playing through the sound card, even if your sound card does not support the
"What You Hear"/"Stereo Mix"
option.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:51 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] thoughts on total recorder?

Hi,

Anyone use this beast for recording, recording anything for the sake of conversation that is?

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...


Re: thoughts on total recorder?

Carlos
 

That feature has nothing to do with the version of Windows.  It is sound card/driver specific.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thoughts on total recorder?

Does windows 10 have stereomix?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Yes.  Total Recorder essentially does what my Virtual Recorder utility does, but with a lot more flexibility.  It uses a virtual driver which allows you to record anything playing through the sound card, even if your sound card does not support the
"What You Hear"/"Stereo Mix"
option.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:51 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] thoughts on total recorder?

Hi,

Anyone use this beast for recording, recording anything for the sake of conversation that is?

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...


Re: subscription address for blindad?

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

I think blindad is defunked, but not sure. Sorry, I misread your post.

Ann P.

Original message:

Ann, I wanted the address for the blindad list, a buy, sell and trade list.
At 09:46 AM 3/22/2017, you wrote:
Hi all,
To subscribe to the blindjob list send an msg to
listserv@listserv.icors.org
In body of msg write: subscribe blindjob firstname lastname
Ann P.
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Portal Tutoring
** New EMAIL: akp@sero.email
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor
"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


John

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Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
** New EMAIL: akp@sero.email
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."

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