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Re: job info or a place to ask my questions

Carolyn Arnold
 

As I understand it, more and more they pay by the line or word, so much per line or word. Before I left in the 90's, I was making more than $12 an hour. Then that hospital closed and I had two different jobs that paid strictly by production.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 12:12 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] job info or a place to ask my questions

I've read that starting salaries in medical transcription start at about $12 or $13 per hour.

VictorOn 4/27/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:
I can tell you that transcription has been getting harder and harder
with constant changes in technology, as well as keeping up with what
is current in the work. In order to stay certified, one used to have
to get ten continuing education credits a year or 30 in three years in
order to recertify; proof of continuing education credits have to be submitted.

If I was back in the job market, and it would be possible to get a
telephone one or medical transcription, probably the telephone one
would be more appealing. That is no bed of roses, because some people
can really give you the business over the phone. With transcription,
there are details like logging and making sure patient information is
accurate, a little of little naggers in addition to the challenges of
keeping up and also quality assurance. If you're good and keep up, the
main thing QA will do is let you know when the way you write a value
has been changed like from a Roman numeral to an Arabic, little things
like that. Still, QA does not pay production, so that is like logging
and getting patient information accurate. It is something that you
have to do on a job that pays strictly by production by word or line
typed, and not for set up or anything else. I loved it for a long
time, but for the last few years I was in it, I did not.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] job info or a place to ask my questions

I don't know where you might get information about this but as I
understand matters, there is at least one company that tries to hire
blind people as telephone representatives to work from home. Others
might know much more about that than I do. My impression is that
transcription doesn't pay well but we'll see what others say.

There is, as I recall a program run by the NFB that provides listings
of jobs that I believe employers are interested in interviewing blind
applicants for. I'd have to look for information about the program.
But again, others may know about the program and if it is still in existence.

At this point, what I'm telling you is general and tentative
information but it may help stir conversation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Missa <mailto:Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] job info or a place to ask my questions

I’ve been trying to search out information on some jobs that I can do
from home. (Since I have a pretty dismal chance at getting
transportation to go to work.) I can’t seem to hit on the right
keyword group or whatnot to do a search on learning transcribing,
general, medical, or some other specialization you might find. I
understand to look for a course where I can be certified (or whatever
it is called) but I find myself over loaded with information and can’t
decide what to look into. I tried searching for a course tailored to
the blind, but I kept finding courses on Braille transcriptionists and
I can’t do that (I’m not able to read Braille due to neuropathy in my
hands though trust me I’ve tried to learn it.) I understand that there
is a learning curve and doing this job is not easy, but all I need is
a point in the right direction that I need to get started. I’m talking
the right course, places to find work, and possible hiccups I might
run into. (Ones especially from accessibility stand points.) My other
choice was to look into proofreading, but I’m not 100% confident in my English grammar or punctuation skills.
I’m willing to try most anything to be able to get some work that I
can do from home. I live in the greater San Antonio area and I know
there are jobs out there that I can do … but once again transportation is a hang up for me.
Where I live there is no public transportation and I know there is a
special transit for disabled people, but I’ve never known those to be
reliable for those looking for rides to and from work.
I think I sound like a bit of a whiner, but I know that there are some
people out there blind or visually impaired who have jobs they do and
I’m sort of at a wall right now and don’t know where to look next for
ideas for some sort of employment. I don’t have education past a high
school degree and have done work from making candles, boxes, to
running the tech department (I miss that job) of a small web hosting
company and running customer service department for a grocery store along with cashiering.
What sites can I use to look? Are there courses or places people
recommend to look at or use? Are they blind friendly?


Thanks,
Melissa










Re: CD ripper

Ann Parsons
 

Hi Gene,

Good morning! Yes, I have Malware here, and will run it. I uninstalled PPC. It started running when the Cdex installation was done. It scared me a bit, so when it gave me the choice to quit, I did. Then, I uninstalled it first thing this morning.

As I mentioned, I've got a line in to my guru for something else, help with unsyncking a folder in Dropbox, so I'll ask him to run Malware at the same time. <grrr> The check box was there, and I should have unchecked it, stupid me! I've been dealing with computers long enough to know better. Oh, well, live and learn.

Ann P.

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Re: New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

Carolyn Arnold
 

Amazon had both the 2016 and the 2017.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 12:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

Hehe, I don't quite know yet what version it is. I'd assume it would be the later one, as I wasn't aware that wallyworld was selling the 2016 version still as well, but I'll have to check and see. :)

As for it being a bug though, I'm really hoping that if I decide to get it replaced, that perhaps it's just some sort of craziness with hardware and I just was unlucky. I might also just return it and spend a bit more towards something a bit more high end, as I really would like to have a smaller package like a phone. haha

When yours arrives though, I would certainly be interested to know if you notice any similar issues.
Take care.

On 4/27/2017 7:14 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Jeremy, did you get a 2017? I hope they have the bugs out of them,
since we have one coming.

Worst case scenario, my husband could jjust use the RCA, while I know
that the Kindle works, and I can get a keyboard for it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

I didn't really pay attention to whether this was the 2016 or 2017
version of the tablet, but I'm going to assume it's the later one. I'm
thinking that there shouldn't be any real differences between the two,
yours and mine, but there very well might be. As Carlos also mentioned
later in the thread, it might also be just that something is messed up
with it being cheaper hardware and I drew the wrong straw. lol

I don't recall if it was ever mentioned, but is this audex free? An
ability to have a sound specific to when you perform a double tap
could certainly be helpful in trying to figure out if it was actually
working.
Thanks.
Take care.


On 4/27/2017 6:57 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:


unless the touch screen is made a bit different than mine? I don't
know. But I can tell you that I can double tap just fine on my RCA
tablet. Using audex helps because I get a sound and stuff when I
double tap and do gestures and stuff. the audex accessibility
redefined app, that is what i use.



On 4/26/2017 11:24 PM, Jeremy wrote:


So, I had an opportunity to test a double tap without tb running and
go figure, it worked perfectly, every single time. I made sure to test
different speeds of tapping, different amounts of force and the double
tap was flawless. I then had my wife remove the updates to tb that had
been added when I updated it and then we went back through the
tutorial again. Even inside the tutorial, in the part where it has you
demonstrate a double tap, it wasn't working as consistently as it had
before we started it back up, but we were able to complete the
tutorial. Once we'd gotten back on the home screen, we noticed some
major inconsistencies again with getting them to register. She was
able to get it working pretty well using one finger and then not at
all with another one. I had issues no matter what finger I tried, but
I noticed that I could tap it with the fat part right below my knuckle
and get it about every 5 or
6 times. I even re-updated tb, thinking that perhaps some part of some
mechanism that tb uses to intercept the gestures was wigging out, but
it still hasn't changed. We are still able to completely turn it off
and have them work correctly, so at this point, I'm completely
boggled.

The last thing I thought of, which I've yet to try is doing a
complete factory reset of the device. This seems really stupid to me,
as I just received it this morning, but I honestly don't have any
ideas beyond that or any ideas of where else to go with it. As much as
I'd really love to get back into android, hopefully figure out if a
higher end phone is going to work for me, I'm thinking that perhaps
this wasn't the best way to go about it. rofllmao
Take care. :)


On 4/26/2017 6:36 PM, jeremy wrote:


Unfortunately, as much as I'd like
it to, I highly doubt that practicing a double tap beyond what I've
already tried is going to automagically cause it to start registering
them differently. My apologies if I didn't mention it before, but I'm
not exactly new to using a touchscreen. I've been using different
touchscreen devices every since I purchased the IPhone4, had an S3
with both ICS and then rooted to use jellybean with cm10 for a short
time, back to the IPhone5, IPads and now to the IPhone6 plus which
I've had since it's release.

My issue really wasn't from a lack
of knowledge of the gestures used for android, as they are for the
most part equivalent to those used in IOS, it was more so my confusion
why most gestures were working decent enough to use and that one was
not. Now that I've played with it even more, had an opportunity to tap
it lightly, hard, tap it slow and fast and yet see no difference, I
really don't have any clues.

This isn't the first time I've herd of this type of thing on an
android device, but it's the first time I've actually seen it with one
I've played with.
As you say, if you have detached the keyboard and you're finding that
the double tap gesture is registering as it should, then perhaps it's
something out of my control to fix or re-configure, such as some
weirdness in the display.

I've also tried to visit the
preferences area of tb and enable the one tap activation gesture, to
see if it'd work as a workaround, but it still doesn't perform a click
on an element with raising your finger and tapping once as it should.
It does seem to make the double tap work a little better, but it's
still not consistent.

As I said before, I think I need to figure out a way to test the
difference between it registering a single tap and a double tap and do
it without tb running. It'd be my thinking that that'd be the best way
to determine if it's something specific to the accessibility
framework, so tb or EBT or something outside of it like the hardware.

Lastly, I also noticed an option in the settings for tb that
indicated that you could change the sensitivity for it registering
taps. I may be slightly off it the exact wording, but either way, I
also tried to adjust that to see if it'd change and it didn't.
Take care.


On 4/26/2017 4:48 PM, Josh Kennedy
wrote:


I detached my tablet and was
using it for a bit tonight, and had no issues with the double taps and
stuff. just practice with it, you'll get the hang of it.


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On April 26, 2017 17:45:15
"Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
wrote:

I don't use such
devices but I would suggest experimenting with the time between taps.
Changing the interval may affect performance.
You indicated that keeping a finger on the icon improves performance.
This may be, in effect, interfering with how the device gauges the
time between taps and may be improving performance for that reason.

Gene
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From: Josh Kennedy
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Sent: Wednesday,
April 26, 2017 4:25 PM
To:
main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re:
[TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

two useful commands
are control alt r for recent screens, and control alt n
for notification
screen. to review the screen press alt plus up down left
or right arrow keys.
to activate an item hit alt enter. to long press, hit
alt shift enter.


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On April 26, 2017
5:19:30 PM "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net
<mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net> > wrote:

> Thank you for that
information. Could you send me any tablet specific key
> commands to:
>
>
4carolyna@windstream.net <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From:
main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Josh Kennedy
> Sent: Wednesday,
April 26, 2017 4:13 PM
> To:
main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re:
[TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts
>
> if you use the
keyboard, the escape key is back, and home is f1 and
> settings is f3.
>
>
> On 4/26/2017 4:09
PM, Jeremy wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> First let me just
say that I do not intend what so ever to start any
>> arguments as to
what platforms might be better, but my experiences so
>> far with this new
tablet haven't been good at all. It was my hopes
>> that perhaps
updating tb might fix some of the issues I'm seeing so
>> far, but it
hasn't done much for being able to navigate around this
>> thing.
>>
>> Beyond that, I'm
hoping that perhaps something is faulty in the
>> hardware, but
either way, here is what I'm having issues with, so
>> perhaps someone
with more experience can help.
>>
>> As soon as I got
the tablet this morning, I followed the instructions
>> here for starting
tb. I'm familiar with using this two-finger gesture,
>> as I'd used it
before on other devices, but I unfortunately wasn't
>> able to get it to
work right away. I ended up locking and unlocking
>> the screen, as
was mentioned here previously, using one finger to
>> flick up and then
using the two-finger gesture again. After a little
>> bit tb came up
talking and took me to the tutorial thing as I'd expected.
>>
>> It was here that
I started having a lot of problems. First, the double
>> tap gesture seems
to be very difficult to register. From what I can
>> tell so far, the
other gestures such as flicking aren't as bad, but no
>> matter how slow
or fast I try to double tap, it always seems to
>> register it as me
just touching the item once. I noticed that it's a
>> little more
reliable if I keep one finger on the item I want to
>> activate and then
use another finger to double tap, but this isn't
>> always consistent
either.
>>
>> Another real
gripe was actually making it through the setup process.
>> One area
specifically that I got stuck in was the one where you can
>> select your
wireless AP you wish to connect to. I'm not quite certain
>> if it was the
flick gesture screwing up, an issue with that part of
>> the interface, or
whatever, but I ended up in an area where the name
>> of an AP here
close to me was being repeated over and over and over.
>> As soon as I'd
use the arrow keys on the keyboard or a flick right
>> gesture to try to
jump to the name of my AP, I would get the sound
>> from tb that
something else had been refocused and it would jump back
>> to somewhere else
on the screen. Once I'd made it to the name of my
>> AP, I tried to
quickly use the double tap to activate it, but once
>> again, it failed.
I ended up having to use a mixture of the arrow
>> keys, enter key,
touching the screen to find stuff that I couldn't
>> focus on with the
keyboard and the flick gestures to make it through.
>>
>> Once I'd made it
through setting up the tablet, I was able to go into
>> the apps icon on
the bottom and locate the play store icon. Through
>> using explore by
touch, flicking and the keyboard, I was able to
>> locate the search
button and do a search for talkback. I'd also been
>> somewhat familiar
with this process from older devices, so I already
>> knew what to
expect as to installing/updating it. Once I'd updated it,
>> I noticed that
the navigation sounds had changed, but I'm still having
>> major issues with
actually moving around through the UI. This is where
>> I'm hoping that
maybe something is jacked up with the screen, as to
>> why it's hard to
register a double tap, but if not, I'm not quite sure
>> I'd call this
usable at all. I'll also note that in the little I've
>> been able to play
with higher end devices, such as the s7, I didn't
>> seem to have
issues with gestures like this.
>>
>> For anyone else
who might be thinking of purchasing this, please keep
>> in mind that it
doesn't seem to have dedicated hardware buttons for
>> back and home.
For those familiar with some of the phones that
>> actually have a
home button you can feel, this makes it quite easy to
>> re orientate
yourself back to the home screen if you're stuck or
>> whatever. While
the tablet does have buttons going along the very
>> bottom of the
screen, back, overview, home, volume down and volume up,
>> it appears to be
necessary to use the double tap gesture to activate
>> these, so that
means it's stupidly hard to get them to work.
>>
>> I then decided to
locate the settings app and see if there were any
>> preferences I
might could change to help, which leads me to my final
>> problem. I
checked through everything I could find, accessibility,
>> checked the TTS,
looked at the TTS's speech rate, whent back a bit and
>> turned down the
brightness on the screen, pressed back on the keyboard
>> to go back into
the main settings again and poof, I completely lost
>> speech. It didn't
appear that tb had crashed, as I still had the
>> navigation sounds
that tb used when I used flick or the keyboard to
>> move, but the
speech from the default google TTS that comes loaded was
>> completely gone.
I tried to lock and unlock the screen which didn't
>> work, so I ended
up holding down the power button for like 30 seconds
>> and everything
was shut down. Luckily for me, when the device came
>> back up, I had
speech again. I've thought about purchasing another
>> TTS, as one
reason I tried it was for being able to use eloquence, but
>> I'm honestly a
little worried with what I see so far from what I
>> assume is crappy
hardware.
>>
>> I'd really hoped
that the 80 bucks I put into purchasing this little
>> beasty would be
enough to give me an idea if a higher end device such
>> as a phone would
be something I'd like changing to, but so far as I
>> can tell, I'm not
pleased at all.
>> It was here that
I was hoping that perhaps it's just me, something
>> screwy with the
hardware that could be fixed, or that perhaps someone
>> else had ideas on
stuff I could try.
>> Hope everyone is
well.
>> Take care.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

Carolyn Arnold
 

I joined Eyes Free, thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

There sure is. Two of them that I know of and can somewhat speak towards.

First is eyes free, which while it has the highest number of users and even some developers from google, it used to have a reputation for being an unfriendly place. There were a number of users who would be quite unfriendly towards users, even new ones and it really wasn't moderated. This has apparently changed now and I've herd that it isn't as bad, but I've sorta kept it as a last resort for lists to ask questions on.

The second is ViAndroid, I think it's called and is ran by a guy that hangs out here and on the list for NVDA. Just from the time I've been on it, it's been really good as far as it's users go, but there isn't as much information as you might find on eyes free. For general questions though, I would definitely recommend it.
Take care.

On 4/27/2017 7:06 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Is there a list for Android users. I went to the site for http://www.freelists.org/list/vi-kindle, but I never could find where to apply to the list itself.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

Yeah, I'm honestly not sure at this point what could be causing the inconsistencies in that one gesture. I'd really hoped that the double tap gesture would still be having issues outside of tb running, so it'd be easier to say it was strictly an issue in hardware, but since it's only with tb running, I really don't know.

Several little brainfarts had me curious if it could potentially be caused between the time that you issue the double tap, tb intercepts it and then it is sent as the command for a click item or whatever it's called, but in looking through the gestures assignment area of tb's preferences, I didn't see an entry for a single tap or double tap. The next closest entry I could find was in the keyboard shortcuts area, where enter is set to perform click, but in using the keyboard and playing with it, that seems to be slightly different than what a double tap is supposed to accomplish. It's been a while since I really got into android, so there are a lot of things I still need to read up on, but I did find under the talkback preferences an option to enable different levels of logging and some specific to the start and end to a gesture.
Once I find out again how to get access to those logs, I just might rejoin the eyes free list so perhaps a dev there can explain it. Either way, I do not think this is an issue with tb itself, else I'd think there would be a lot more users upset with it, so perhaps it's still somewhat caused by something in hardware too, a file that's missing or screwed up, who knows.

Before I return it for a replacement, I still also want to try both a factory restore and also a complete restore using what ever application is required to flash the firmware to it. I don't know if RCA devices follow close to the same process that I used way back when on the s3, but flashing the AT&T firmware back to it after I'd rooted it wasn't all that hard and the application was actually really accessible. I'd typically think that a factory restore would be enough, but I had a good friend of mine who had purchased a Nexus tablet and on trying to start tb for the first time, figured out that there were missing files that resulted in errors. It ended up becoming necessary to have sited help to do an update which finally got it working for him.
Take care.

On 4/27/2017 10:49 AM, Laz wrote:
That may be the problem he's running into although if it works fine
with TalkBack turned off if should also work fine with it turned on.
(shrugs)

Laz

On 4/27/17, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
It's always possible to have plain bad luck, especially with less
expensive hardware. It could just be that particular unit.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts


unless the touch screen is made a bit different than mine? I don't know.
But I can tell you that I can double tap just fine on my RCA tablet.
Using audex helps because I get a sound and stuff when I double tap
and do gestures and stuff. the audex accessibility redefined app,
that is what i use.




On 4/26/2017 11:24 PM, Jeremy wrote:

So, I had an opportunity to test a double tap without tb
running and go figure, it worked perfectly, every single time. I
made sure to test different speeds of tapping, different amounts of
force and the double tap was flawless. I then had my wife remove the
updates to tb that had been added when I updated it and then we went back through the tutorial again.
Even inside the tutorial, in the part where it has you demonstrate a
double tap, it wasn't working as consistently as it had before we
started it back up, but we were able to complete the tutorial. Once
we'd gotten back on the home screen, we noticed some major
inconsistencies again with getting them to register. She was able to
get it working pretty well using one finger and then not at all with
another one. I had issues no matter what finger I tried, but I
noticed that I could tap it with the fat part right below my knuckle
and get it about every 5 or 6 times. I even re-updated tb, thinking
that perhaps some part of some mechanism that tb uses to intercept
the gestures was wigging out, but it still hasn't changed. We are
still able to completely turn it off and have them work correctly, so at this point, I'm completely boggled.

The last thing I thought of, which I've yet to try is doing a
complete factory reset of the device. This seems really stupid to
me, as I just received it this morning, but I honestly don't have
any ideas beyond that or any ideas of where else to go with it. As
much as I'd really love to get back into android, hopefully figure
out if a higher end phone is going to work for me, I'm thinking that
perhaps this wasn't the best way to go about it. rofllmao
Take care. :)


On 4/26/2017 6:36 PM, jeremy wrote:

Unfortunately, as much as I'd like it to, I highly doubt
that practicing a double tap beyond what I've already tried is going
to automagically cause it to start registering them differently. My
apologies if I didn't mention it before, but I'm not exactly new to
using a touchscreen. I've been using different touchscreen devices
every since I purchased the IPhone4, had an S3 with both ICS and
then rooted to use jellybean with cm10 for a short time, back to the
IPhone5, IPads and now to the IPhone6 plus which I've had since it's release.

My issue really wasn't from a lack of knowledge of the
gestures used for android, as they are for the most part equivalent
to those used in IOS, it was more so my confusion why most gestures
were working decent enough to use and that one was not. Now that
I've played with it even more, had an opportunity to tap it lightly,
hard, tap it slow and fast and yet see no difference, I really don't have any clues.

This isn't the first time I've herd of this type of thing on
an android device, but it's the first time I've actually seen it
with one I've played with. As you say, if you have detached the
keyboard and you're finding that the double tap gesture is
registering as it should, then perhaps it's something out of my
control to fix or re-configure, such as some weirdness in the display.

I've also tried to visit the preferences area of tb and
enable the one tap activation gesture, to see if it'd work as a
workaround, but it still doesn't perform a click on an element with
raising your finger and tapping once as it should. It does seem to
make the double tap work a little better, but it's still not consistent.

As I said before, I think I need to figure out a way to test
the difference between it registering a single tap and a double tap
and do it without tb running. It'd be my thinking that that'd be the
best way to determine if it's something specific to the
accessibility framework, so tb or EBT or something outside of it like the hardware.

Lastly, I also noticed an option in the settings for tb that
indicated that you could change the sensitivity for it registering
taps. I may be slightly off it the exact wording, but either way, I
also tried to adjust that to see if it'd change and it didn't.
Take care.


On 4/26/2017 4:48 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

I detached my tablet and was using it for a bit tonight,
and had no issues with the double taps and stuff. just practice with
it, you'll get the hang of it.


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On April 26, 2017 17:45:15 "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

I don't use such devices but I would suggest
experimenting with the time between taps. Changing the interval may
affect performance. You indicated that keeping a finger on the icon
improves performance. This may be, in effect, interfering with how
the device gauges the time between taps and may be improving performance for that reason.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 4:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts


two useful commands are control alt r for recent
screens, and control alt n
for notification screen. to review the screen press alt
plus up down left
or right arrow keys. to activate an item hit alt enter.
to long press, hit
alt shift enter.


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On April 26, 2017 5:19:30 PM "Carolyn Arnold"
<4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:

> Thank you for that information. Could you send me any
tablet specific key
> commands to:
>
> 4carolyna@windstream.net
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Josh Kennedy
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 4:13 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts
>
> if you use the keyboard, the escape key is back, and
home is f1 and
> settings is f3.
>
>
> On 4/26/2017 4:09 PM, Jeremy wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> First let me just say that I do not intend what so
ever to start any
>> arguments as to what platforms might be better, but
my experiences so
>> far with this new tablet haven't been good at all. It
was my hopes
>> that perhaps updating tb might fix some of the issues
I'm seeing so
>> far, but it hasn't done much for being able to
navigate around this
>> thing.
>>
>> Beyond that, I'm hoping that perhaps something is
faulty in the
>> hardware, but either way, here is what I'm having
issues with, so
>> perhaps someone with more experience can help.
>>
>> As soon as I got the tablet this morning, I followed
the instructions
>> here for starting tb. I'm familiar with using this
two-finger gesture,
>> as I'd used it before on other devices, but I
unfortunately wasn't
>> able to get it to work right away. I ended up locking
and unlocking
>> the screen, as was mentioned here previously, using
one finger to
>> flick up and then using the two-finger gesture again.
After a little
>> bit tb came up talking and took me to the tutorial
thing as I'd expected.
>>
>> It was here that I started having a lot of problems.
First, the double
>> tap gesture seems to be very difficult to register.
From what I can
>> tell so far, the other gestures such as flicking
aren't as bad, but no
>> matter how slow or fast I try to double tap, it
always seems to
>> register it as me just touching the item once. I
noticed that it's a
>> little more reliable if I keep one finger on the item
I want to
>> activate and then use another finger to double tap,
but this isn't
>> always consistent either.
>>
>> Another real gripe was actually making it through the
setup process.
>> One area specifically that I got stuck in was the one
where you can
>> select your wireless AP you wish to connect to. I'm
not quite certain
>> if it was the flick gesture screwing up, an issue
with that part of
>> the interface, or whatever, but I ended up in an area
where the name
>> of an AP here close to me was being repeated over and
over and over.
>> As soon as I'd use the arrow keys on the keyboard or
a flick right
>> gesture to try to jump to the name of my AP, I would
get the sound
>> from tb that something else had been refocused and it
would jump back
>> to somewhere else on the screen. Once I'd made it to
the name of my
>> AP, I tried to quickly use the double tap to activate
it, but once
>> again, it failed. I ended up having to use a mixture
of the arrow
>> keys, enter key, touching the screen to find stuff
that I couldn't
>> focus on with the keyboard and the flick gestures to
make it through.
>>
>> Once I'd made it through setting up the tablet, I was
able to go into
>> the apps icon on the bottom and locate the play store icon.
Through
>> using explore by touch, flicking and the keyboard, I
was able to
>> locate the search button and do a search for talkback.
I'd also been
>> somewhat familiar with this process from older
devices, so I already
>> knew what to expect as to installing/updating it.
Once I'd updated it,
>> I noticed that the navigation sounds had changed, but
I'm still having
>> major issues with actually moving around through the
UI. This is where
>> I'm hoping that maybe something is jacked up with the
screen, as to
>> why it's hard to register a double tap, but if not,
I'm not quite sure
>> I'd call this usable at all. I'll also note that in
the little I've
>> been able to play with higher end devices, such as
the s7, I didn't
>> seem to have issues with gestures like this.
>>
>> For anyone else who might be thinking of purchasing
this, please keep
>> in mind that it doesn't seem to have dedicated
hardware buttons for
>> back and home. For those familiar with some of the phones that
>> actually have a home button you can feel, this makes
it quite easy to
>> re orientate yourself back to the home screen if
you're stuck or
>> whatever. While the tablet does have buttons going
along the very
>> bottom of the screen, back, overview, home, volume
down and volume up,
>> it appears to be necessary to use the double tap
gesture to activate
>> these, so that means it's stupidly hard to get them to work.
>>
>> I then decided to locate the settings app and see if
there were any
>> preferences I might could change to help, which leads
me to my final
>> problem. I checked through everything I could find,
accessibility,
>> checked the TTS, looked at the TTS's speech rate,
whent back a bit and
>> turned down the brightness on the screen, pressed
back on the keyboard
>> to go back into the main settings again and poof, I
completely lost
>> speech. It didn't appear that tb had crashed, as I
still had the
>> navigation sounds that tb used when I used flick or
the keyboard to
>> move, but the speech from the default google TTS that
comes loaded was
>> completely gone. I tried to lock and unlock the
screen which didn't
>> work, so I ended up holding down the power button for
like 30 seconds
>> and everything was shut down. Luckily for me, when
the device came
>> back up, I had speech again. I've thought about
purchasing another
>> TTS, as one reason I tried it was for being able to
use eloquence, but
>> I'm honestly a little worried with what I see so far
from what I
>> assume is crappy hardware.
>>
>> I'd really hoped that the 80 bucks I put into
purchasing this little
>> beasty would be enough to give me an idea if a higher
end device such
>> as a phone would be something I'd like changing to,
but so far as I
>> can tell, I'm not pleased at all.
>> It was here that I was hoping that perhaps it's just
me, something
>> screwy with the hardware that could be fixed, or that
perhaps someone
>> else had ideas on stuff I could try.
>> Hope everyone is well.
>> Take care.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


















Re: kindle fire and voice view

Norman
 

Hi.

No need for your sister. smile.

Turn it on, wait 2 minutes, and then place 2 fingers on the screen and hold until accessibility is enabled.

This will let you run through the setup. As for reading books. go to the books app, double tap on the book, and once it opens do the following.

douple tap anywhere on the screen. You should here showing menu. In the bottom right corner should be a start text to speech option. Double tap and it should begin reading. You can now lock the screen and it'll continue reading.

Navigation is more like android than IOS but you shouldn't have many issues.


Thanks.



On 4/28/2017 4:04 AM, Shirley and Nitro wrote:
hi
i bought myself a kindle fire, and just have recieved it this morning in the mail.
can anyone give me some hints on how, as a totally blind person, to use it?
I will get my sister to help me set it up.
but once she turns on voice view, how do you for example go in and out of aps, is it like sorta the same as using an i phone?
and how do you read books on it? i already have an account with amazon since i use the kindle ap on my phone already.
so i do have some kindle books.
I guess it will just take some practicing with  it but any hints and tips and tricks would be welcomed.
shirley


Re: ms word frequently goes not responding with jaws

Umair Ijaz
 

Thanks Jean.
Actually I know pretty much about NVDA and i use it when jaws have a
problem but in case of word document I cant say for certain that it is
a jaws issue because with nvda i havent and cant read ms word docx for
a long time. one issue is the keys in ms word too. for instance, in ms
word i often apply heading styles using alt 1 in jaws, i dont know the
corresponding command in nvda, similarly a very useful command of jaws
is ctrl windows k for marking the place and then insert m for
selecting all stuff from that marked place till the cursor position. i
dont know in nvda how can i select a particular block of text which
isnt at the top or at the bottom and shift down arrow is a tedious
task. is there any such key stroke in nvda as well?
if you help me in learning word and nvda then maybe at least for
reading at home i may switch nto nvda. and also tell me after ms word,
in terms of accessibility and collaboration with screen readers, what
will you suggest which office program is best, open office, libra
office or someone else. i am willing to use them too. one down side in
using them is that in offices and in educational institutes and other
public computers, ms office is installed and once if i get used to
libra office or any other office program then it may create issue at
those places. this is a thinking thats why i avoid those programs
though my usage at my own laptop is 99 pc and on other public computer
s is 1pc.
As far as sighted suggestion goes, sighted works pretty well at my
computer when tehy switch off jaws. thanks.

On 4/27/17, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
microsoft word files work very very very very good with NVDA.



On 4/27/2017 1:19 AM, Umair Ijaz wrote:
Jean, Actually I am not comfortable reading documents in other word
processors and using nvda so I wanna work with jaws and in ms word. I
dont know that with nvda they work wel or not. and i think on all
computers, there is no specific items which could intrude ms word.
abby fine reader seems some issue with it but without it too the word
has the same problem.

On 4/26/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
It may or may not help solve the problem but every time something
crashes, a
record is kept. An e-mail list like this may not be able to help
analyze
those records but something like Bleeping Computer may. At this time,
we
don't know if the problem is Word, JAWS, or a combination. One way to
get
an idea is to open Word using another screen-reader and see what
happens.
You could try NVDA.

A work around is to use another Word processor, if that allows you to do
what you need to do. Do you need specific features in Word that are
unavailable or don't work well in other word processors?

Another question is whether all the systems you tried have certain other
programs on them that may not be necessarily found on computers in
general?


Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Loy
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 6:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ms word frequently goes not responding with jaws


I have a very similar problem with Window Eyes and ZT 11 and Word not
responding. AISquared logged into my system but did not find out the
problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: Umair Ijaz
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 7:18 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] ms word frequently goes not responding with jaws


Hi listers.
I am facing this issue since long but now it's really crossing the
patience level. Jaws and ms word both have got some tussell with each
other at least on all my machines. I have tried it on different
operating systems, but both do not work together effectively. Jaws
works properly at every place in every document but in ms word, it
responds very slowly, and ms word also goes not responding and jaws
sometimes gets stuck too after word goes not responding. Killing ms
word from task manager and again resuming the work is also not a good
thing to do as it takes much time to again reach the line where i was
before the crash. and after reading a couple of lines, the whole
story
recurs :( :( currently windows is seven 32 bit. jaws 17 and 18 both
have been tried. all versions of ms office have the same saga. office
2007 seems relatively cooperative but now it too is showing the same
irresponsiveness. i have reinstalled word, reinstalled jaws,
completely removed both and then reinstalled, fresh installed
windows,
i have also disabled all addons in ms word, abby fine reader creates
more trouble but it is not there in addin list now.
So, what else shall I do now?


--

www.umairijaz.tk

"A Person who won't read has no advantage over who can't read"






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"A Person who won't read has no advantage over who can't read"


jaws skips sections and lines while reading line by line in ms word

Umair Ijaz
 

Hi listers,
Microsoft word reads a document having many sections perfectly fine
when read in say all mode but while reading line by line it skips
sections sometimes and sometimes read properly. If i press down arrow
to read lines and the next line says section XYZ and most of the time
when i press up arrow again i came to know that jaws has skipped a
section. either insert down arrow for say all reads those lines too or
ctrl right arrow word by word. can anyone tell why it skips lines.
sometimes it is hard to guess that it has skipped something. Thanks.

--

www.umairijaz.com

"A Person who won't read has no advantage over who can't read"


Re: amazon question

Gene
 

I doubt it.  I don't have an account and I can see the combo box with one browser and I can't with two others.  It makes no sense for this to be dependent on either how you log in or whether you log in.  Amazon would, one would think, want people to browse the sight with equal ease whether they have accounts or not.  it would be a form of advertising and encouraging people to get accounts.  I don't know what causes the problem but so far, I've seen no pattern nor logical explanation.  While I can't say you are wrong, at least for some users, I doubt there is any connection.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amazon question

Hi Group,


I believe that if you are automatically logged in to Amazon, you will
not see the combo box.  If you manually log in, you may see the combo
box.  This presupposes that you have an Amazon account. If you don't
have an existing Amazon account, you shouldn't have this issue.



On 4/27/2017 4:28 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:
> If I access amazon.com via IE or Firefox, I do not see the departments combo box.  However, if I use Chrome, it is still there.
>
> Pam
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [main@TechTalk.groups.io] on behalf of Carolyn Arnold [4carolyna@...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:05 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amazon question
>
> I us the access site any time I use Amazon.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 2:31 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amazon question
>
> Well, this is weird.  I also noticed this when I went to
> their site at a little before 6 Am central time.  I hadn't
> been up there in a week at least.
>
> Then I went back before replying to this message and the
> combo box was there with all of the department listed as
> usual.  Not sure what they were doing this morning, but all
> is back to normal as of 1:30 PM Central time.
>
> If you don't want to deal with the clutter, you could also
> use the www.amazon.com/access version of the site.  I use it
> sometimes, but generally don't mind the extra links and
> options with the regular site.
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217@...
> I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be
> unproductive, and procrastinate all at once.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vicki" <vwherry4@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:03 AM
> Subject: [TechTalk] amazon question
>
>
> It has been a few weeks since I have been on Amazon, and
> when I went on the website a few days ago, it was completely
> different.
>
> When doing the search, there was always a combo box to
> select the department and then the edit field. Now there is
> a department link which takes me to a page with multiple
> links and buttons to different departments and edit fields
> and a whole lot of frustration and wasted time.
>
> Is there a way to get back to the regular page with the
> combo box or does it even exist?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




kindle fire and voice view

Shirley and Nitro <shirley1980@...>
 

hi
i bought myself a kindle fire, and just have recieved it this morning in the mail.
can anyone give me some hints on how, as a totally blind person, to use it?
I will get my sister to help me set it up.
but once she turns on voice view, how do you for example go in and out of aps, is it like sorta the same as using an i phone?
and how do you read books on it? i already have an account with amazon since i use the kindle ap on my phone already.
so i do have some kindle books.
I guess it will just take some practicing with  it but any hints and tips and tricks would be welcomed.
shirley


Re: J18.0.2740 Update to Fix Prior Update, & What's New

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

So, with all respect, nothing about the audio ducking fix?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike B." <mb69mach1@charter.net
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:33:03 -0700
Subject: [TechTalk] J18.0.2740 Update to Fix Prior Update, & What's New

Hi All,

A small update to correct bugs from the update earlier this month.

32 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/27403299B4/J18.0.2740enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/27403299B4/J18.0.2740enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.2740 (April 2017)

This update addresses a few issues that were discovered shortly after the
release of the, JAWS 18.0.2738 , April 2017 update.
list of 3 items
. Resolved an issue with JAWS not reading row titles in tables on web pages
as expected.
. Addressed a reported issue where Forms Mode was not turning off as
expected in certain situations.
. Resolved a reported issue with JAWS not reading the list of messages in
the new Mozilla Thunderbird version 52 release.
list end

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!


Re: Stories from the Tech Desk

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi,
Oh, I can assure the tech support in the UK is not English.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@gmail.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:40:29 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Stories from the Tech Desk

I think this is half the reason why I like apple more than Microsoft. You can call apple and ask a question and they go out of their way to give you an answer. Microsoft reads from a sscript and half of the time they do not know the answer. Apple accessibility is in the states and ms is over seas in india. Apple is open 24 hours and Microsoft is open only 12 hours I think. I wint in to the Microsoft store with questions and I left with the same questions because the people working there could not give me the answers and they did not even try to find out. I went in to the apple store with questions and they answered the questions and even gave me suggestions to solve my problem in different ways. I used to go to frys instead of bestbuy because, frys would help you with tec issues and bestbuy only wants to sell you something. For example, I brought my laptop in to the store to help find a solution to my problem. It was missing drivers. So the tec person fixed it and he did not charge me because the site with the drivers was not working with my screenreader and if it had, I could have fixed the problem. Bestbuy told me I had to pay 75 to 125 dollars and give my laptop over for 12 hours. So even if frysand apple charges a little more it is worth it because, they have better service. Heather

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
contact:
e-mail:
kd5cbl@gmail.com
skype: cynterline
ham call sign:
kd5cbl
sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
how the blind do it:
www.blindhow.com

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Stories from the Tech Desk

Two things, Dave, I had a friend, dead now, but she always
said, "I don't know anything about a computer, wouldn't even
know how to turn one on."

The other thing is that we have a rather high-end department
store here in the little center by the apartments and a
chain, just a step above a Dollar Store that buys a lot of
odd lots. My husband was saying last night that it is
amazing to him how much more help we get in the cheap store
than in the high dollar, where they appear not to be
concerned as to whether we come or we don't come.
Consequently, we go there less, and it is surprising what we
end up finding in the odd lot store that works pretty well.
I'm thinking that we're not the only spokes in the wheel,
and that if we tend to go to Odd Lot more often, others
probably are doing that too. So, then High Dollar is going
to wonder what went wrong?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Stories from the Tech Desk

Hello Olusegun,

Wow! Your story brings back a lot of memories of when I
spent time working the Technical Support Desk, and it is a
wild pressure filled job. Customers are angry and too many
need to vent their anger on you, often several times, before
they are able to settle down, to actually listen to the very
person who can help them out of their situation.

I can't imagine being given only 50 seconds to answer,
listen and solve a customers problem. I've had calls that
took 5 minutes just to calm the person down from their rant,
before I could even begin helping them. And if there is the
need for a Removal and a Re-install of the software, it is
easy to Kiss 30 to 40 minutes Good Bye. There are some
crazy situations that need to be un-tangled before a
solution can be implemented. I had a supervisor tell me I
should take no more than 10 minutes with any customer for
any problem. And again, this is coming from a Supervisor
that knows very little about computers, the sof5tware we
were selling, or the length of time it takes to clean up a
system, before a reinstall can begin.

And then some customers are not very good with their
Computers, and in fact, know next to nothing, other than how
to turn it On. Some leave their systems on all the time
because they honestly do not know how to turn them off! Not
Kidding! And then if they are older, and have difficulty
grasping what you are saying, or they cannot hear you
because they have a hearing problem, well, you see the
problem. Few calls are done in 10 minutes, and I would
guess none were actually done in 50 seconds. My word, 50
seconds! What Planet were your Bosses from?

I have always believed that if a Company takes care of its
Customers, those Customers will take care of the Company.

Sad to say, no one in Management has this same belief, and
instead treat the Customer as if they are the Enemy!

I am still thinking about the 50 second time limit you had
for helping someone. Incredible that management actually
thought a customer service person could answer and complete
a call in less than one minute!

Well, this all gets back to Money Honey. The Company makes
deep compromises when crafting the product, and then often
under staffs the Support department, so it is easily over
whelmed with support calls. And the brilliant answer from
management is to not hire the much needed extra support
staff, but to force what staff there is, to limit each call
to no more than 50 seconds. Incredible!

Sad to say, this is becoming the Norm, and not the
exception. The
Customer has become the enemy.

I see some good signs, a few Companies are once again
realizing Customer Service is a Good thing, and a very
Important part of keeping customers happy. I hope this
trend towards good service continues.

Grumpy Dave


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Re: New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi Carolyn,
Thanks so much for the offer, however, at current, I don't even own a keyboard. For me, the screen works seemlessly; even for typing.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:21:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

Rajmund, did you see the keyboard commands Josh sent last
night? If not, I can copy what I have and send them to you.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

Hi,
HMM, my android clicks when it accepts the double tap. Weird
if yours doesn't. Have you tried looking in
sounds/notifications? JUST a random guess, for whatever it's
worth.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy <icu8it2@gmail.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts



I didn't really pay attention to whether this was the 2016
or 2017
version of the tablet, but I'm going to assume it's the
later one. I'm
thinking that there shouldn't be any real differences
between the two,
yours and mine, but there very well might be. As Carlos
also mentioned
later in the thread, it might also be just that something
is messed up
with it being cheaper hardware and I drew the wrong straw.
lol

I don't recall if it was ever mentioned, but is this audex
free? An ability to have a sound specific to when you
perform a double tap could certainly be helpful in trying to
figure out if it was actually working.
Thanks.
Take care.


On 4/27/2017 6:57 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

unless the touch screen is made a bit different than mine?
I don't know. But I can tell you that I can double tap just
fine on my RCA tablet. Using audex helps because I get a
sound and stuff when I double tap and do gestures and stuff.
the audex accessibility redefined app, that is what i use.



On 4/26/2017 11:24 PM, Jeremy wrote:

So, I had an opportunity to test a double tap without tb
running and go figure, it worked perfectly, every single
time. I made sure to test different speeds of tapping,
different amounts of force and the double tap was flawless.
I then had my wife remove the updates to tb that had been
added when I updated it and then we went back through the
tutorial again. Even inside the tutorial, in the part where
it has you demonstrate a double tap, it wasn't working as
consistently as it had before we started it back up, but we
were able to complete the tutorial. Once we'd gotten back on
the home screen, we noticed some major inconsistencies again
with getting them to register. She was able to get it
working pretty well using one finger and then not at all
with another one. I had issues no matter what finger I
tried, but I noticed that I could tap it with the fat part
right below my knuckle and get it about every 5 or 6 times.
I even re-updated tb, thinking that perhaps some part of
some mechanism that tb uses to intercept the gestures was
wigging out, but it still hasn't changed. We are still able
to completely turn it off and have them work correctly, so
at this point, I'm completely boggled.

The last thing I thought of, which I've yet to try is
doing a complete
factory reset of the device. This seems really stupid to
me, as I just
received it this morning, but I honestly don't have any
ideas beyond
that or any ideas of where else to go with it. As much as
I'd really
love to get back into android, hopefully figure out if a
higher end
phone is going to work for me, I'm thinking that perhaps
this wasn't
the best way to go about it. rofllmao Take care. :)


On 4/26/2017 6:36 PM, jeremy wrote:

Unfortunately, as much as I'd like it to, I highly doubt
that practicing a double tap beyond what I've already tried
is going to automagically cause it to start registering them
differently. My apologies if I didn't mention it before, but
I'm not exactly new to using a touchscreen. I've been using
different touchscreen devices every since I purchased the
IPhone4, had an S3 with both ICS and then rooted to use
jellybean with cm10 for a short time, back to the IPhone5,
IPads and now to the IPhone6 plus which I've had since it's
release.

My issue really wasn't from a lack of knowledge of the
gestures used for android, as they are for the most part
equivalent to those used in IOS, it was more so my confusion
why most gestures were working decent enough to use and that
one was not. Now that I've played with it even more, had an
opportunity to tap it lightly, hard, tap it slow and fast
and yet see no difference, I really don't have any clues.

This isn't the first time I've herd of this type of thing
on an android device, but it's the first time I've actually
seen it with one I've played with. As you say, if you have
detached the keyboard and you're finding that the double tap
gesture is registering as it should, then perhaps it's
something out of my control to fix or re-configure, such as
some weirdness in the display.

I've also tried to visit the preferences area of tb and
enable the one tap activation gesture, to see if it'd work
as a workaround, but it still doesn't perform a click on an
element with raising your finger and tapping once as it
should. It does seem to make the double tap work a little
better, but it's still not consistent.

As I said before, I think I need to figure out a way to
test the difference between it registering a single tap and
a double tap and do it without tb running. It'd be my
thinking that that'd be the best way to determine if it's
something specific to the accessibility framework, so tb or
EBT or something outside of it like the hardware.

Lastly, I also noticed an option in the settings for tb
that indicated that you could change the sensitivity for it
registering taps. I may be slightly off it the exact
wording, but either way, I also tried to adjust that to see
if it'd change and it didn't.
Take care.


On 4/26/2017 4:48 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

I detached my tablet and was using it for a bit tonight,
and had no issues with the double taps and stuff. just
practice with it, you'll get the hang of it.

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On April 26, 2017 17:45:15 "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com
wrote:
I don't use such devices but I would suggest experimenting
with the time between taps. Changing the interval may
affect performance. You indicated that keeping a finger on
the icon improves performance. This may be, in effect,
interfering with how the device gauges the time between taps
and may be improving performance for that reason.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 4:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts


two useful commands are control alt r for recent screens,
and control
alt n for notification screen. to review the screen press
alt plus up
down left or right arrow keys. to activate an item hit alt
enter. to
long press, hit alt shift enter.


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On April 26, 2017 5:19:30 PM "Carolyn Arnold"
<4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:

Thank you for that information. Could you send me any
tablet
specific key commands to:

4carolyna@windstream.net

Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 4:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

if you use the keyboard, the escape key is back, and
home is f1 and
settings is f3.


On 4/26/2017 4:09 PM, Jeremy wrote:
Hey all,
First let me just say that I do not intend what so ever
to start
any arguments as to what platforms might be better,
but my
experiences so far with this new tablet haven't been
good at all.
It was my hopes that perhaps updating tb might fix some
of the
issues I'm seeing so far, but it hasn't done much for
being able to
navigate around this thing.

Beyond that, I'm hoping that perhaps something is
faulty in the
hardware, but either way, here is what I'm having
issues with, so
perhaps someone with more experience can help.

As soon as I got the tablet this morning, I followed
the
instructions here for starting tb. I'm familiar with
using this
two-finger gesture, as I'd used it before on other
devices, but I
unfortunately wasn't able to get it to work right away.
I ended up
locking and unlocking the screen, as was mentioned here
previously,
using one finger to flick up and then using the
two-finger gesture
again. After a little bit tb came up talking and took
me to the tutorial thing as I'd expected.

It was here that I started having a lot of problems.
First, the
double tap gesture seems to be very difficult to
register. From
what I can tell so far, the other gestures such as
flicking aren't
as bad, but no matter how slow or fast I try to double
tap, it
always seems to register it as me just touching the
item once. I
noticed that it's a little more reliable if I keep one
finger on
the item I want to activate and then use another finger
to double
tap, but this isn't always consistent either.

Another real gripe was actually making it through the
setup process.
One area specifically that I got stuck in was the one
where you can
select your wireless AP you wish to connect to. I'm not
quite
certain if it was the flick gesture screwing up, an
issue with that
part of the interface, or whatever, but I ended up in
an area where
the name of an AP here close to me was being repeated
over and over and over.
As soon as I'd use the arrow keys on the keyboard or a
flick right
gesture to try to jump to the name of my AP, I would
get the sound
from tb that something else had been refocused and it
would jump
back to somewhere else on the screen. Once I'd made it
to the name
of my AP, I tried to quickly use the double tap to
activate it, but
once again, it failed. I ended up having to use a
mixture of the
arrow keys, enter key, touching the screen to find
stuff that I
couldn't focus on with the keyboard and the flick
gestures to make it through.

Once I'd made it through setting up the tablet, I was
able to go
into the apps icon on the bottom and locate the play
store icon.
Through using explore by touch, flicking and the
keyboard, I was
able to locate the search button and do a search for
talkback. I'd
also been somewhat familiar with this process from
older devices,
so I already knew what to expect as to
installing/updating it. Once
I'd updated it, I noticed that the navigation sounds
had changed,
but I'm still having major issues with actually moving
around
through the UI. This is where I'm hoping that maybe
something is
jacked up with the screen, as to why it's hard to
register a double
tap, but if not, I'm not quite sure I'd call this
usable at all.
I'll also note that in the little I've been able to
play with
higher end devices, such as the s7, I didn't seem to
have issues with gestures like this.

For anyone else who might be thinking of purchasing
this, please
keep in mind that it doesn't seem to have dedicated
hardware
buttons for back and home. For those familiar with some
of the
phones that actually have a home button you can feel,
this makes it
quite easy to re orientate yourself back to the home
screen if
you're stuck or whatever. While the tablet does have
buttons going
along the very bottom of the screen, back, overview,
home, volume
down and volume up, it appears to be necessary to use
the double
tap gesture to activate these, so that means it's
stupidly hard to get them to work.

I then decided to locate the settings app and see if
there were any
preferences I might could change to help, which leads
me to my
final problem. I checked through everything I could
find,
accessibility, checked the TTS, looked at the TTS's
speech rate,
whent back a bit and turned down the brightness on the
screen,
pressed back on the keyboard to go back into the main
settings
again and poof, I completely lost speech. It didn't
appear that tb
had crashed, as I still had the navigation sounds that
tb used when
I used flick or the keyboard to move, but the speech
from the
default google TTS that comes loaded was completely
gone. I tried
to lock and unlock the screen which didn't work, so I
ended up
holding down the power button for like 30 seconds and
everything
was shut down. Luckily for me, when the device came
back up, I had
speech again. I've thought about purchasing another
TTS, as one
reason I tried it was for being able to use eloquence,
but I'm
honestly a little worried with what I see so far from
what I assume is crappy hardware.

I'd really hoped that the 80 bucks I put into
purchasing this
little beasty would be enough to give me an idea if a
higher end
device such as a phone would be something I'd like
changing to, but
so far as I can tell, I'm not pleased at all.
It was here that I was hoping that perhaps it's just
me, something
screwy with the hardware that could be fixed, or that
perhaps
someone else had ideas on stuff I could try.
Hope everyone is well.
Take care.


Re: amazon question

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I believe that if you are automatically logged in to Amazon, you will not see the combo box. If you manually log in, you may see the combo box. This presupposes that you have an Amazon account. If you don't have an existing Amazon account, you shouldn't have this issue.

On 4/27/2017 4:28 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:
If I access amazon.com via IE or Firefox, I do not see the departments combo box. However, if I use Chrome, it is still there.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [main@TechTalk.groups.io] on behalf of Carolyn Arnold [4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amazon question

I us the access site any time I use Amazon.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 2:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amazon question

Well, this is weird. I also noticed this when I went to
their site at a little before 6 Am central time. I hadn't
been up there in a week at least.

Then I went back before replying to this message and the
combo box was there with all of the department listed as
usual. Not sure what they were doing this morning, but all
is back to normal as of 1:30 PM Central time.

If you don't want to deal with the clutter, you could also
use the www.amazon.com/access version of the site. I use it
sometimes, but generally don't mind the extra links and
options with the regular site.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@frontier.com
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be
unproductive, and procrastinate all at once.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki" <vwherry4@comcast.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:03 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] amazon question


It has been a few weeks since I have been on Amazon, and
when I went on the website a few days ago, it was completely
different.

When doing the search, there was always a combo box to
select the department and then the edit field. Now there is
a department link which takes me to a page with multiple
links and buttons to different departments and edit fields
and a whole lot of frustration and wasted time.

Is there a way to get back to the regular page with the
combo box or does it even exist?

Thanks.

Vicki










--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Software Bugs, how much is too much?

Jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Hehe, very true. :)

On 4/27/2017 7:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Jeremy and everyone, people will spend more money for what they want than for what they need - strange quirk of human nature.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Software Bugs, how much is too much?

Wow, I've only had dealings with you here on list and not yet an opportunity to shop with you, but I very much so wish there were more business owners who felt the same way as you do. I understand needing to make a profit, even if it's a tiny one to keep things going and bread on the table, but there are definitely a high number of people who are only concerned with making more green.

I never really understood this until my wife and I started looking into what it was going to take to set up a firework stand for the Christmas for Kids charity that a friend of ours runs each year. The price at which you could purchase fireworks compared to what most people were reselling them at was absolutely silly. I also found out that each year a number of people come in and can spend anywhere from 1000 to 5000 dollars in one go for a truck full of fireworks too, so perhaps it isn't as bad for them. lol

All the same, hats off to you bro and everyone else like you who stays honest and takes good care of their customers.
Take care.

On 4/27/2017 1:45 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Grumpy Dave, the story you shared reminded me of a time in my life
when I was working at Teletech as a Technical Support staffer on a GTE
Internet service contract. We could only spend 50 seconds on the
phone with each customer that called in for tech support help. The
GTE ISP service was horrible and overtly buggy. I would read the
notes from other colleagues and these were always incomplete.

It so happened that a naval officer called and was extremely angry
because his issues had not been sufficiently addressed. He
specifically told me that he would not get off the phone until he saw
results. I looked at the notes from other colleagues and, sure enough, the documentations were bad.
This was the fifth call from the same guy and I happened to have been
the one that took it this time.

I assured the gentleman that he and I would work together to address
all the issues he was having. I had to RECONFIGURE his settings,
taking him step by step through what he needed to do. When we were
done, I made him test his connection three times and I documented
everything in my notes. I thanked him for being patient with me and
was about to hang up when he requested to speak to my supervisor.

Placing him on-hold, I paged the supervisor who came to my desk
berating me for taking too long on the call. I told her the caller I
just served wanted to talk to her. She grabbed another headset,
connected it to my work phone, took the naval officer off hold and
made me listen to the entire conversation between them. I recall the
naval officer telling my supervisor that he had served in the navy for
31 years; he stated that I was the fifth person to have taken his
call. He said that I had a good listening ear, treated him like a
good neighbor, addressed all of his issues satisfactorily, and he'd
forever be grateful. He concluded by telling my supervisor that he
didn't know what establishments do for civilians who do a good job,
but that I deserved anything and everything to which I was entitled to. He offered to send a letter of recommendation if needed.

I asked my supervisor afterwards for a five-minute break; I was
struggling to rescue uncontrollable tears; I bolted into the bathroom,
stood there and just let them flow for three minutes before I returned
to my desk. That day, I made a pledge that I would never ever sell
anything of inferior quality to anyone! If, when push comes to shove
I can't use it because it's inferior, no, I won't stock or sell it in my store front.

Teletech was more concerned about the number of calls each person took
as opposed to providing good quality service. A month later, I quit
working for the company because in clear conscience, I could not and
would not provide inferior service to any of the callers whose call came to my desk.
I have no regrets for the decision I made then, I'll do it even now in
a heartbeat should the need arise!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado









Re: job info or a place to ask my questions

Victor
 

I've read that starting salaries in medical transcription start at
about $12 or $13 per hour.

VictorOn 4/27/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:

I can tell you that transcription has been getting harder and harder with
constant changes in technology, as well as keeping up with what is current
in the work. In order to stay certified, one used to have to get ten
continuing education credits a year or 30 in three years in order to
recertify; proof of continuing education credits have to be submitted.

If I was back in the job market, and it would be possible to get a telephone
one or medical transcription, probably the telephone one would be more
appealing. That is no bed of roses, because some people can really give you
the business over the phone. With transcription, there are details like
logging and making sure patient information is accurate, a little of little
naggers in addition to the challenges of keeping up and also quality
assurance. If you're good and keep up, the main thing QA will do is let you
know when the way you write a value has been changed like from a Roman
numeral to an Arabic, little things like that. Still, QA does not pay
production, so that is like logging and getting patient information
accurate. It is something that you have to do on a job that pays strictly by
production by word or line typed, and not for set up or anything else. I
loved it for a long time, but for the last few years I was in it, I did
not.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] job info or a place to ask my questions

I don't know where you might get information about this but as I understand
matters, there is at least one company that tries to hire blind people as
telephone representatives to work from home. Others might know much more
about that than I do. My impression is that transcription doesn't pay well
but we'll see what others say.

There is, as I recall a program run by the NFB that provides listings of
jobs that I believe employers are interested in interviewing blind
applicants for. I'd have to look for information about the program. But
again, others may know about the program and if it is still in existence.

At this point, what I'm telling you is general and tentative information but
it may help stir conversation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Missa <mailto:Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] job info or a place to ask my questions

I’ve been trying to search out information on some jobs that I can do from
home. (Since I have a pretty dismal chance at getting transportation to go
to work.) I can’t seem to hit on the right keyword group or whatnot to do a
search on learning transcribing, general, medical, or some other
specialization you might find. I understand to look for a course where I can
be certified (or whatever it is called) but I find myself over loaded with
information and can’t decide what to look into. I tried searching for a
course tailored to the blind, but I kept finding courses on Braille
transcriptionists and I can’t do that (I’m not able to read Braille due to
neuropathy in my hands though trust me I’ve tried to learn it.) I understand
that there is a learning curve and doing this job is not easy, but all I
need is a point in the right direction that I need to get started. I’m
talking the right course, places to find work, and possible hiccups I might
run into. (Ones especially from accessibility stand points.) My other choice
was to look into proofreading, but I’m not 100% confident in my English
grammar or punctuation skills.
I’m willing to try most anything to be able to get some work that I can do
from home. I live in the greater San Antonio area and I know there are jobs
out there that I can do … but once again transportation is a hang up for me.
Where I live there is no public transportation and I know there is a special
transit for disabled people, but I’ve never known those to be reliable for
those looking for rides to and from work.
I think I sound like a bit of a whiner, but I know that there are some
people out there blind or visually impaired who have jobs they do and I’m
sort of at a wall right now and don’t know where to look next for ideas for
some sort of employment. I don’t have education past a high school degree
and have done work from making candles, boxes, to running the tech
department (I miss that job) of a small web hosting company and running
customer service department for a grocery store along with cashiering.
What sites can I use to look? Are there courses or places people recommend
to look at or use? Are they blind friendly?


Thanks,
Melissa










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Re: New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

Jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Hehe, I don't quite know yet what version it is. I'd assume it would be the later one, as I wasn't aware that wallyworld was selling the 2016 version still as well, but I'll have to check and see. :)

As for it being a bug though, I'm really hoping that if I decide to get it replaced, that perhaps it's just some sort of craziness with hardware and I just was unlucky. I might also just return it and spend a bit more towards something a bit more high end, as I really would like to have a smaller package like a phone. haha

When yours arrives though, I would certainly be interested to know if you notice any similar issues.
Take care.

On 4/27/2017 7:14 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Jeremy, did you get a 2017? I hope they have the bugs out of
them, since we have one coming.

Worst case scenario, my husband could jjust use the RCA,
while I know that the Kindle works, and I can get a keyboard
for it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

I didn't really pay attention to whether this was the 2016
or 2017 version of the tablet, but I'm going to assume it's
the later one. I'm thinking that there shouldn't be any real
differences between the two, yours and mine, but there very
well might be. As Carlos also mentioned later in the thread,
it might also be just that something is messed up with it
being cheaper hardware and I drew the wrong straw. lol

I don't recall if it was ever mentioned, but is this audex
free? An ability to have a sound specific to when you
perform a double tap could certainly be helpful in trying to
figure out if it was actually working.
Thanks.
Take care.


On 4/27/2017 6:57 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:


unless the touch screen is made a bit different than
mine? I don't know. But I can tell you that I can double tap
just fine on my RCA tablet. Using audex helps because I get
a sound and stuff when I double tap and do gestures and
stuff. the audex accessibility redefined app, that is what i
use.



On 4/26/2017 11:24 PM, Jeremy wrote:


So, I had an opportunity to test a double
tap without tb running and go figure, it worked perfectly,
every single time. I made sure to test different speeds of
tapping, different amounts of force and the double tap was
flawless. I then had my wife remove the updates to tb that
had been added when I updated it and then we went back
through the tutorial again. Even inside the tutorial, in the
part where it has you demonstrate a double tap, it wasn't
working as consistently as it had before we started it back
up, but we were able to complete the tutorial. Once we'd
gotten back on the home screen, we noticed some major
inconsistencies again with getting them to register. She was
able to get it working pretty well using one finger and then
not at all with another one. I had issues no matter what
finger I tried, but I noticed that I could tap it with the
fat part right below my knuckle and get it about every 5 or
6 times. I even re-updated tb, thinking that perhaps some
part of some mechanism that tb uses to intercept the
gestures was wigging out, but it still hasn't changed. We
are still able to completely turn it off and have them work
correctly, so at this point, I'm completely boggled.

The last thing I thought of, which I've yet
to try is doing a complete factory reset of the device. This
seems really stupid to me, as I just received it this
morning, but I honestly don't have any ideas beyond that or
any ideas of where else to go with it. As much as I'd really
love to get back into android, hopefully figure out if a
higher end phone is going to work for me, I'm thinking that
perhaps this wasn't the best way to go about it. rofllmao
Take care. :)


On 4/26/2017 6:36 PM, jeremy wrote:


Unfortunately, as much as I'd like
it to, I highly doubt that practicing a double tap beyond
what I've already tried is going to automagically cause it
to start registering them differently. My apologies if I
didn't mention it before, but I'm not exactly new to using a
touchscreen. I've been using different touchscreen devices
every since I purchased the IPhone4, had an S3 with both ICS
and then rooted to use jellybean with cm10 for a short time,
back to the IPhone5, IPads and now to the IPhone6 plus which
I've had since it's release.

My issue really wasn't from a lack
of knowledge of the gestures used for android, as they are
for the most part equivalent to those used in IOS, it was
more so my confusion why most gestures were working decent
enough to use and that one was not. Now that I've played
with it even more, had an opportunity to tap it lightly,
hard, tap it slow and fast and yet see no difference, I
really don't have any clues.

This isn't the first time I've herd
of this type of thing on an android device, but it's the
first time I've actually seen it with one I've played with.
As you say, if you have detached the keyboard and you're
finding that the double tap gesture is registering as it
should, then perhaps it's something out of my control to fix
or re-configure, such as some weirdness in the display.

I've also tried to visit the
preferences area of tb and enable the one tap activation
gesture, to see if it'd work as a workaround, but it still
doesn't perform a click on an element with raising your
finger and tapping once as it should. It does seem to make
the double tap work a little better, but it's still not
consistent.

As I said before, I think I need to
figure out a way to test the difference between it
registering a single tap and a double tap and do it without
tb running. It'd be my thinking that that'd be the best way
to determine if it's something specific to the accessibility
framework, so tb or EBT or something outside of it like the
hardware.

Lastly, I also noticed an option in
the settings for tb that indicated that you could change the
sensitivity for it registering taps. I may be slightly off
it the exact wording, but either way, I also tried to adjust
that to see if it'd change and it didn't.
Take care.


On 4/26/2017 4:48 PM, Josh Kennedy
wrote:


I detached my tablet and was
using it for a bit tonight, and had no issues with the
double taps and stuff. just practice with it, you'll get the
hang of it.


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On April 26, 2017 17:45:15
"Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
wrote:

I don't use such
devices but I would suggest experimenting with the time
between taps. Changing the interval may affect performance.
You indicated that keeping a finger on the icon improves
performance. This may be, in effect, interfering with how
the device gauges the time between taps and may be improving
performance for that reason.

Gene
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April 26, 2017 4:25 PM
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[TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts

two useful commands
are control alt r for recent screens, and control alt n
for notification
screen. to review the screen press alt plus up down left
or right arrow keys.
to activate an item hit alt enter. to long press, hit
alt shift enter.


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On April 26, 2017
5:19:30 PM "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net
<mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net> > wrote:

> Thank you for that
information. Could you send me any tablet specific key
> commands to:
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4carolyna@windstream.net <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
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> From:
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[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Josh Kennedy
> Sent: Wednesday,
April 26, 2017 4:13 PM
> To:
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> Subject: Re:
[TechTalk] New RCA Galileo, my thoughts
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> if you use the
keyboard, the escape key is back, and home is f1 and
> settings is f3.
>
>
> On 4/26/2017 4:09
PM, Jeremy wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> First let me just
say that I do not intend what so ever to start any
>> arguments as to
what platforms might be better, but my experiences so
>> far with this new
tablet haven't been good at all. It was my hopes
>> that perhaps
updating tb might fix some of the issues I'm seeing so
>> far, but it
hasn't done much for being able to navigate around this
>> thing.
>>
>> Beyond that, I'm
hoping that perhaps something is faulty in the
>> hardware, but
either way, here is what I'm having issues with, so
>> perhaps someone
with more experience can help.
>>
>> As soon as I got
the tablet this morning, I followed the instructions
>> here for starting
tb. I'm familiar with using this two-finger gesture,
>> as I'd used it
before on other devices, but I unfortunately wasn't
>> able to get it to
work right away. I ended up locking and unlocking
>> the screen, as
was mentioned here previously, using one finger to
>> flick up and then
using the two-finger gesture again. After a little
>> bit tb came up
talking and took me to the tutorial thing as I'd expected.
>>
>> It was here that
I started having a lot of problems. First, the double
>> tap gesture seems
to be very difficult to register. From what I can
>> tell so far, the
other gestures such as flicking aren't as bad, but no
>> matter how slow
or fast I try to double tap, it always seems to
>> register it as me
just touching the item once. I noticed that it's a
>> little more
reliable if I keep one finger on the item I want to
>> activate and then
use another finger to double tap, but this isn't
>> always consistent
either.
>>
>> Another real
gripe was actually making it through the setup process.
>> One area
specifically that I got stuck in was the one where you can
>> select your
wireless AP you wish to connect to. I'm not quite certain
>> if it was the
flick gesture screwing up, an issue with that part of
>> the interface, or
whatever, but I ended up in an area where the name
>> of an AP here
close to me was being repeated over and over and over.
>> As soon as I'd
use the arrow keys on the keyboard or a flick right
>> gesture to try to
jump to the name of my AP, I would get the sound
>> from tb that
something else had been refocused and it would jump back
>> to somewhere else
on the screen. Once I'd made it to the name of my
>> AP, I tried to
quickly use the double tap to activate it, but once
>> again, it failed.
I ended up having to use a mixture of the arrow
>> keys, enter key,
touching the screen to find stuff that I couldn't
>> focus on with the
keyboard and the flick gestures to make it through.
>>
>> Once I'd made it
through setting up the tablet, I was able to go into
>> the apps icon on
the bottom and locate the play store icon. Through
>> using explore by
touch, flicking and the keyboard, I was able to
>> locate the search
button and do a search for talkback. I'd also been
>> somewhat familiar
with this process from older devices, so I already
>> knew what to
expect as to installing/updating it. Once I'd updated it,
>> I noticed that
the navigation sounds had changed, but I'm still having
>> major issues with
actually moving around through the UI. This is where
>> I'm hoping that
maybe something is jacked up with the screen, as to
>> why it's hard to
register a double tap, but if not, I'm not quite sure
>> I'd call this
usable at all. I'll also note that in the little I've
>> been able to play
with higher end devices, such as the s7, I didn't
>> seem to have
issues with gestures like this.
>>
>> For anyone else
who might be thinking of purchasing this, please keep
>> in mind that it
doesn't seem to have dedicated hardware buttons for
>> back and home.
For those familiar with some of the phones that
>> actually have a
home button you can feel, this makes it quite easy to
>> re orientate
yourself back to the home screen if you're stuck or
>> whatever. While
the tablet does have buttons going along the very
>> bottom of the
screen, back, overview, home, volume down and volume up,
>> it appears to be
necessary to use the double tap gesture to activate
>> these, so that
means it's stupidly hard to get them to work.
>>
>> I then decided to
locate the settings app and see if there were any
>> preferences I
might could change to help, which leads me to my final
>> problem. I
checked through everything I could find, accessibility,
>> checked the TTS,
looked at the TTS's speech rate, whent back a bit and
>> turned down the
brightness on the screen, pressed back on the keyboard
>> to go back into
the main settings again and poof, I completely lost
>> speech. It didn't
appear that tb had crashed, as I still had the
>> navigation sounds
that tb used when I used flick or the keyboard to
>> move, but the
speech from the default google TTS that comes loaded was
>> completely gone.
I tried to lock and unlock the screen which didn't
>> work, so I ended
up holding down the power button for like 30 seconds
>> and everything
was shut down. Luckily for me, when the device came
>> back up, I had
speech again. I've thought about purchasing another
>> TTS, as one
reason I tried it was for being able to use eloquence, but
>> I'm honestly a
little worried with what I see so far from what I
>> assume is crappy
hardware.
>>
>> I'd really hoped
that the 80 bucks I put into purchasing this little
>> beasty would be
enough to give me an idea if a higher end device such
>> as a phone would
be something I'd like changing to, but so far as I
>> can tell, I'm not
pleased at all.
>> It was here that
I was hoping that perhaps it's just me, something
>> screwy with the
hardware that could be fixed, or that perhaps someone
>> else had ideas on
stuff I could try.
>> Hope everyone is
well.
>> Take care.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: CD ripper

Carlos
 

Hi Pauline,

You're quite welcome.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pauline" <rpdalton@comcast.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] CD ripper



Carlos, thank you for this tutorial.

It is well done, easy to understand, and looks as if even I should be able to follow the steps you set forth.

Much appreciated.

Pauline



-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] CD ripper

Also, here is a tutorial I wrote for CDex some time ago.
https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/wiki/CDex-Tutorial
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To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] CD ripper


Here is the direct download link.
http://mirror.cdex.mu/CDex-1.85.exe
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To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] CD ripper


Hi all,

I've been trying all day to download cdex. I thought I had downloaded it earlier this afternoon, but I can't find it anywhere on my computer. If I go back to the cdex homepage I can't find the download link any more, and I've tried with two screen readers. I'm using MSIE. I suppose I could try FF. Anybody have at least the name of the .exe file so I can search again. Maybe I'm just looking for the wrong thing?

Ann P.

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Re: converting youtube files to mp3

Carlos
 

Yes that is correct.  And yes, it takes the link from the clipboard automatically.

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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting youtube files to mp3

Okay thanks, I'll have to try it again tomorrow because the file I thought got converted isn't in the folder where it should be.
 
Just to be clear when I find a file I want to convert I go to my address bar and copy the link to the page and paste that into the pontes downloader correct?  In fact I may only have to have the link on my clipboard, seems like in the past the link was already there when I opened up pontes.
 
Troy
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting youtube files to mp3

If you tab through the main window, you will see a control which displays the current download folder.
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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting youtube files to mp3

Hi Carlos,
 
Okay I have Pontes, where do the files go in windows 7?  I used it to convert a file the other day and it sounded like it worked, but then I never found the file.  It would be in the default spot because I never change any paths when I install a program.
 
Thanks, I do find pontes easy to use and so I'm glad I'll be able to use it if I can just find the converted files.
 
Troy
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting youtube files to mp3

Pontes Media Downloader
is probably one of the more accessible YouTube downloaders since it was written by a blind programmer.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:03 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] converting youtube files to mp3

Hi All,
 
Another topic that's been covered before but I didn't want the info until now, what is the easiest way to convert a file from youtube to mp3 format?
 
Btw I have goldwave installed if that's the easiest way, I believe it's version 5.69.
 
Thanks.
 
Troy
 
 

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Re: converting youtube files to mp3

Troy Burnham
 

Okay thanks, I'll have to try it again tomorrow because the file I thought got converted isn't in the folder where it should be.
 
Just to be clear when I find a file I want to convert I go to my address bar and copy the link to the page and paste that into the pontes downloader correct?  In fact I may only have to have the link on my clipboard, seems like in the past the link was already there when I opened up pontes.
 
Troy
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting youtube files to mp3

If you tab through the main window, you will see a control which displays the current download folder.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting youtube files to mp3

Hi Carlos,
 
Okay I have Pontes, where do the files go in windows 7?  I used it to convert a file the other day and it sounded like it worked, but then I never found the file.  It would be in the default spot because I never change any paths when I install a program.
 
Thanks, I do find pontes easy to use and so I'm glad I'll be able to use it if I can just find the converted files.
 
Troy
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting youtube files to mp3

Pontes Media Downloader
is probably one of the more accessible YouTube downloaders since it was written by a blind programmer.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:03 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] converting youtube files to mp3

Hi All,
 
Another topic that's been covered before but I didn't want the info until now, what is the easiest way to convert a file from youtube to mp3 format?
 
Btw I have goldwave installed if that's the easiest way, I believe it's version 5.69.
 
Thanks.
 
Troy
 
 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

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