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Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Carlos
 


Indeed, not so easily done unless you really know what you are doing.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Maybe, but we'll see what those with expert or near expert technological knowledge in the area say.  As I understand matters, a good firewall prevents this sort of attack. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

also guess what? due to you guys sending emails back and forth on this
list, I could if I wanted, get all your IP addresses. and then guess
what? I could hack all your machines using a live linux disk and with a
few well chosen commands in the linux terminal I could break your whole
windows OS so next time you turn on the machine it will not boot up at
all it'll just say OS not found or unrecoverable OS. But why would I do
that? I have better things to do with my life such as reading audio
books, visiting friends and family, watching tv, going to amusement
parks, eating pizza and drinking coffee and stuff. could it be done?
sure. the point is it does not have to be microsoft removing stuff.
sounds like some folks better pack up and move to antarctica. don't
worry, you could all take slate and styluses with you when you move
there and if you are bored, write yourself emails in braille. don't
forget your polarbear costume so you can dress up and scare away those
horrible evil privacy-stealing humans who may come around every 10 years.



On 5/22/2017 1:17 AM, Dennis L wrote:
> Exactly my point Carlos.  Plus they can remove software I read now what if for instance they flag your screen reader and remove it?  I just am not a fan of win10.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:44 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7
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> Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators update.  However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an issue to begin with.  Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows 10.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7
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> I won't go to windows10 until I have to.  I can't completely turn off updates and they collect absolutely to much shit.  I shouldn't need 3rd party apps to turn all there junk off.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7
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> I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
> windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can just make a local account and its just like your
> windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.
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Re: I've gone all the way to the Dark Side now!

Carlos
 

In my opinion there are several differences. Yes, there are many expensive
Android phones, but there are just as many that cost $200 or less. Also,
not that I would bother, but if I did decide to shell out the money for an
expensive Android phone, I would at least get expandability via MicroSD
card, more access to the file system, file transferring without the need for
proprietary software, and so on. As for crappy Wi-Fi chips, that has
nothing to do with Android. Android is only the operating system and it
runs on quite a bit of hardware produced by different manufacturers.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I've gone all the way to the Dark Side now!


What bothers me is, people bash the iPhone, for it's price, and
what not. Samsung, Pixel, to name a few cost the same, yet those
are not bashed. Not to mention the explosions, Samsung caused.
People seem to pick on apple all the time. Yes, I can confirm
your finding, my iPhone doesn't show anything below 50%. But at
least if something was to happen, I could call for help, whereas
the samsung can't. These debates go on and on, essentially
leading nowhere. PS. Going by what you've said, android has
crappy WIFI chip as well. My laptop can see 3 times as more as
my android and IOS together.

----- Original Message -----
From: enes sar캇ba힊 <enes.saribas@gmail.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 21 May 2017 17:53:07 +0300
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I've gone all the way to the Dark Side
now!

that doesn't negate the fact that the iphone has a crappy wifi
chip.
Also, the iphone has some sort of stupid software config, that
prevents
wifi networks lower than 49% signal strength from being visible
or
connected to. If the signal drops, or if the signal is lower
than said
amount, it will disconnect from the network and not list it.


On 5/21/2017 12:36 PM, Rajmund wrote:
hi,
and when my mother's samsung runs out of signal, my iPhone 5s
still
has it.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 18/05/17 5:09 PM, enes saribas wrote:
and I will continue to use my iphone 6 until no software runs on
it and
the out-of-date software on it is no longer supported. And the
iphone,
contrary to what die apple fanboys claim, is ridiculously
overpriced
shitty cheap hardware. For example, my father has a sony z3,
which cost
almost half what my iphone cost, yet he can detect and connect
to many
wifi networks that my phone doesn't even detect. The wifi chip
on the
iphone is utter garbage.


On 5/18/2017 2:00 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

Robb, you're so right. Smart phones are probably the biggest
rip-off
in the world of consumer electronics. You spend $600 for a
shiny, new
smart phone, and two years later it is considered obsolete, and
so you
are endlessly enticed to upgrade to a newer model. Apple has
been
playing this game with the IPhone ever since it was introduced
ten
years ago. I still use a 12-year-old LG 4650 "dumb" phone with
Page
Plus Cellular, which still works and is perfectly adequate for
my
needs.


Gerald


-----Original Message----- From: Rob
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I've gone all the way to the Dark Side
now!

Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net> wrote:
A lot of blind folks who moan and bitch about the high cost of
JAWS
and SMA's don't think twice about shelling out $600 for an
IPhone
plus another $70 a month for cell phone service. That's okay
to
them, but spending $125 every two years to keep their SMA's up
to
date is considered highway robbery.

And screen readers aren't the only type of software to have this
kind
of policy. Ever looked at stuff like drafting software, or
something
real specilized like that. Some of that software runs into the
thousands of dollars. Compare to that, screen readers are
pretty
cheap, especially when you consider the security risks involved
in
running such a program. The screen reader needs access to every
part
of the operating system in order to read it. Think of the
security
holes that could give you, should someone be malicious enough to
want
to exploit them.
That last point is tangential, however--just a curiosity.
Apple gets away with it, I think, because they do it to
/everybody/
and not just blind folks. But I still think it's ridiculous to
pay
that much for a phone, on which only a limited selection of
software
runs. Actually, I'm not a big fan of cell phones in general.
Your
smart phone is obsolete in a year, to a year and a half,
receiving no
furhter security updates and whatnot, causing you to have to
shell out
another heap of money for an up to date phone. Now tell me how
much of
a rip off that is.


Update On Bad Hard Drive And External Drive Container

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


A week or so ago, I inquired about an external drive container and just how it could be used.

After a lot of positive response, I ordered the one from Amazon that was referenced on this list by Carlos and some others. It works great. I can now see the drive and the files. However, the drive is still malfunctioning. I have run the Windows Error Check and it keeps failing to correct the issues and is asking me to keep running the error checking utility. I do this and I am in a circle of sorts. I have read the logs and I don't totally understand them. It seems that the files and folders are there and even the correct amount of data in terms of size and free space percentage. However there is a loss of ability to access to the data. I have pasted one such example of the log below. I wonder if this is something to do with a partition and the part of that which indexes the location of the data. When I actually try accessing the files with computer, I see them, but interacting is sluggish and sometimes gives an error ass to unable to locate the file or folder. For example, if I try copying a file, the system responds slowly and then after a few minutes, it says it cannot locate the data--even though I can see and highlight the data in My computer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as to some solution to this issue:software, third party programs and so on.


Oh well, I thought I had correctly copied the log into the clipboard and could paste it into this message. Apparently, this is not the case. I will try to summarize.


It sees the files; it says file verification is successful. It indicates what I believe to be the correct size--that is the size that I was familiar with before the drive started malfunctioning.It then starts reporting errors as to checking file status or location and it seems (in some sort of hexadecimal language) to indicate a loss of location of the files in accessing them to verify their integrity. The program then terminates.





--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Gene
 

Maybe, but we'll see what those with expert or near expert technological knowledge in the area say.  As I understand matters, a good firewall prevents this sort of attack. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

also guess what? due to you guys sending emails back and forth on this
list, I could if I wanted, get all your IP addresses. and then guess
what? I could hack all your machines using a live linux disk and with a
few well chosen commands in the linux terminal I could break your whole
windows OS so next time you turn on the machine it will not boot up at
all it'll just say OS not found or unrecoverable OS. But why would I do
that? I have better things to do with my life such as reading audio
books, visiting friends and family, watching tv, going to amusement
parks, eating pizza and drinking coffee and stuff. could it be done?
sure. the point is it does not have to be microsoft removing stuff.
sounds like some folks better pack up and move to antarctica. don't
worry, you could all take slate and styluses with you when you move
there and if you are bored, write yourself emails in braille. don't
forget your polarbear costume so you can dress up and scare away those
horrible evil privacy-stealing humans who may come around every 10 years.



On 5/22/2017 1:17 AM, Dennis L wrote:
> Exactly my point Carlos.  Plus they can remove software I read now what if for instance they flag your screen reader and remove it?  I just am not a fan of win10.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:44 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7
>
> Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators update.  However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an issue to begin with.  Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows 10.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7
>
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> I won't go to windows10 until I have to.  I can't completely turn off updates and they collect absolutely to much shit.  I shouldn't need 3rd party apps to turn all there junk off.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7
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> I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
> windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can just make a local account and its just like your
> windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.
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Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Gene
 

I've read that Microsoft reserves the right to remove pirated software from your machine. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

hmmm interesting. I think they can flag stuff but not remove it.
removing it would require them hacking your machine remoting into it and
then uninstalling it. besides why would a company do that? remove
someone's screen reader? what reason do they have? do you even know how
rediculous your statement sounds? remove a screen reader? lol



On 5/22/2017 1:17 AM, Dennis L wrote:
> Exactly my point Carlos.  Plus they can remove software I read now what if for instance they flag your screen reader and remove it?  I just am not a fan of win10.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:44 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7
>
> Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators update.  However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an issue to begin with.  Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows 10.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7
>
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> I won't go to windows10 until I have to.  I can't completely turn off updates and they collect absolutely to much shit.  I shouldn't need 3rd party apps to turn all there junk off.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7
>
> I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
> windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can just make a local account and its just like your
> windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.
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Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Gene
 

I agree that there is little expectation of privacy.  But there is a point where intrusion goes too far.  I don't have an opinion about whether Windows 10 crosses that point but I'm discussing the matter because of all the discussion I've seen regarding Windows 10 and privacy.  I don'tg recall in enough detail what Windows 10 used to collect to comment nor do I know what the new version collects, but evidently, based on comments here, it's much less. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

if you are that concerned about privacy you should just get rid of the internet, get rid of all credit cards, may not want to talk to people in general. Even if someone knows your name via word of mouth they could go sell it to someone else. whenever you interact with anyone you give away automatically a certain amount of your privacy. the government knows your address because you are on SSI, cameras may be recording you when you walk down the street, go shopping, and so on. guess what, its 2017, we don't live in the year 1500. So either get used to it or cut ties with all civilization and go live in the woods or desert somewhere and do not under any circumstances interact with any other humans for the rest of your life. I, for one, choose to accept windows10, and google android recording all my voice assistance commands and stuff because I trust that on the other end that info is being used to improve the services I receive. That includes better voice recognition, faster ways to pay for products, and an improved windows and improved android experience. Even if I went to extremes and used a ubuntu linux live dvd for browsing so that when I shut off the computer no data is recorded on the hard drive? well I am still leaving an IP-address trail among other things. Sites have recorded whether or not I visited them, and they know my IP address which means if they wanted they could find out nearly exactly where I live. So not even a live OS image that disappears when I turn off the machine is 100% safe. So again I say giving up a certain amount of privacy either interacting on the internet or in the real world with other humans is just something that occurs. Accept it, or go move to antarctica at the south pole where temps get to minus 128 fahrenheit and enjoy your life of complete privacy. Also be sure to walk there, or to get rides and when you do get rides don't give your name, just tell people to drive you as far south as possible. And when you get to the ocean and need to go even further south you'll probably have to tell people you are a scientist that has to go study ice and snow so they will get you across the ocean to the south pole as quickly as possible so you can then get as far inland and away from other people so you can build your iglue and live in absolute privacy hunting penguins and eating fish the rest of your life. And if anyone comes around to disturb you, quickly dress up in your polar-bear costume and run at them making growling sounds and waving your arms and they'll run away thinking a hungry polar bear is about to eat them. Then you can go back to your nice quiet 100% private life. If you get bored you can always talk to yourself about how nice it was to live in society but then right away remind yourself... hey what's this? I'm a very paranoid person who cares about my privacy! nobody can know who I am or what I am doing, not even my name. Oh its been 40 years. uh, I forget what my name is. Oh well who cares. I have nobody to talk to and give it to anyway. So from now on, I'll call myself ezzerdoo. Sounds like a good caveMan name. Hey, the ice looks extra good today. I think I'll go melt some with my solar heater because I can't make a fire that makes smoke and that could attract other humans which is a big no no! and have a drink of nice fresh antarctic water.




On 5/21/2017 11:51 PM, Gene wrote:
Microsoft gave away Windows 10 because they expected to monitize it more than earlier versions.  Nothing is free.  Things may have greatly improved but, given that Windows 10 was given away for a year, and that this wasn't done for philanthropic reasons, it will take more persuasive arguments to persuade me that, despite things greatly improving, that they have improved as much as they should.  The most easily sold commodity when monitizing an operating system is user information.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators
update.  However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an
issue to begin with.  Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I
freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows
10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


I won't go to windows10 until I have to.  I can't completely turn off
updates and they collect absolutely to much shit.  I shouldn't need 3rd
party apps to turn all there junk off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can just
make a local account and its just like your
windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.



On 5/21/2017 5:37 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
> http://www.game-debate.com/news/22928/opinion-why-we-need-to-finally-a
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Re: I've gone all the way to the Dark Side now!

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

What bothers me is, people bash the iPhone, for it's price, and what not. Samsung, Pixel, to name a few cost the same, yet those are not bashed. Not to mention the explosions, Samsung caused.
People seem to pick on apple all the time. Yes, I can confirm your finding, my iPhone doesn't show anything below 50%. But at least if something was to happen, I could call for help, whereas the samsung can't. These debates go on and on, essentially leading nowhere. PS. Going by what you've said, android has crappy WIFI chip as well. My laptop can see 3 times as more as my android and IOS together.

----- Original Message -----
From: enes sar캇ba힊 <enes.saribas@gmail.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 21 May 2017 17:53:07 +0300
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I've gone all the way to the Dark Side now!

that doesn't negate the fact that the iphone has a crappy wifi chip.
Also, the iphone has some sort of stupid software config, that prevents
wifi networks lower than 49% signal strength from being visible or
connected to. If the signal drops, or if the signal is lower than said
amount, it will disconnect from the network and not list it.


On 5/21/2017 12:36 PM, Rajmund wrote:
hi,
and when my mother's samsung runs out of signal, my iPhone 5s still
has it.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 18/05/17 5:09 PM, enes saribas wrote:
and I will continue to use my iphone 6 until no software runs on it and
the out-of-date software on it is no longer supported. And the iphone,
contrary to what die apple fanboys claim, is ridiculously overpriced
shitty cheap hardware. For example, my father has a sony z3, which cost
almost half what my iphone cost, yet he can detect and connect to many
wifi networks that my phone doesn't even detect. The wifi chip on the
iphone is utter garbage.


On 5/18/2017 2:00 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

Robb, you're so right. Smart phones are probably the biggest rip-off
in the world of consumer electronics. You spend $600 for a shiny, new
smart phone, and two years later it is considered obsolete, and so you
are endlessly enticed to upgrade to a newer model. Apple has been
playing this game with the IPhone ever since it was introduced ten
years ago. I still use a 12-year-old LG 4650 "dumb" phone with Page
Plus Cellular, which still works and is perfectly adequate for my
needs.


Gerald


-----Original Message----- From: Rob
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I've gone all the way to the Dark Side now!

Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net> wrote:
A lot of blind folks who moan and bitch about the high cost of JAWS
and SMA's don't think twice about shelling out $600 for an IPhone
plus another $70 a month for cell phone service. That's okay to
them, but spending $125 every two years to keep their SMA's up to
date is considered highway robbery.

And screen readers aren't the only type of software to have this kind
of policy. Ever looked at stuff like drafting software, or something
real specilized like that. Some of that software runs into the
thousands of dollars. Compare to that, screen readers are pretty
cheap, especially when you consider the security risks involved in
running such a program. The screen reader needs access to every part
of the operating system in order to read it. Think of the security
holes that could give you, should someone be malicious enough to want
to exploit them.
That last point is tangential, however--just a curiosity.
Apple gets away with it, I think, because they do it to /everybody/
and not just blind folks. But I still think it's ridiculous to pay
that much for a phone, on which only a limited selection of software
runs. Actually, I'm not a big fan of cell phones in general.
Your
smart phone is obsolete in a year, to a year and a half, receiving no
furhter security updates and whatnot, causing you to have to shell out
another heap of money for an up to date phone. Now tell me how much of
a rip off that is.


Re: How do I upgrade Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

My 8 year old HP with a 500 GB drive, 3 gigs of RAM, 32 bit, AMD processor died twice on me, plus all the lag in general. Never again windows 10 on such low specs. Just, no.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 21 May 2017 09:54:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I upgrade Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

I am running the latest windows10 update on an 11-year-old h-p laptop
computer with dual core processor 3gigs ram and 80gig hard drive and it
runs very good.



On 5/21/2017 5:41 AM, Carlos wrote:
I believe even in the Home edition it can be disabled via the
registry, but what is the point if it doesn't work consistently?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I upgrade Windows 8.1 to Windows 10


Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
Yes, except that disabling forced driver updates did not work
consistently in my experience.


And isn't that only available in pro editions?


Re: Very sad news for Window-Eyes Users.

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi,
You've raised an interesting point. JAWS development and purchase may not be justified. That is probably one of the reasons why they've cut down WindowEyes. But cutting down WindowEyes shows us that there are still people who are willing to pay for DAWS, and use it full time. Interesting times for screen readers ahead. Interesting times for the blind in general, I have to say.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 21 May 2017 16:40:10 +0530
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Very sad news for Window-Eyes Users


Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi,
I had to stop reading this. There has not been anything between say, windows 8.1, and 10. Half of what they say in there my 8.1 can do. Automatic drivers, I never had to hunt for one.
Notifications, that bit looks the same as windows 10. And at least I don't have to do all the others. But I may have missed something.

----- Original Message -----
From: enes sar캇ba힊 <enes.saribas@gmail.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 21 May 2017 12:37:55 +0300
Subject: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

http://www.game-debate.com/news/22928/opinion-why-we-need-to-fina
lly-accept-windows-10-is-better-than-windows-7


Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Carlos
 

Enough Josh. We get the point. And everyone is entitled to their opinions.
Some people are more sensitive about their privacy than others which is not
unreasonable.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


just go find a polar bear photo online and set it as your windows
wallpaper background. that should scare any horrible privacy-stealing
humans away from your machine. one look and they'll run away for sure!



On 5/22/2017 1:22 AM, Dennis L wrote:
I agree my point is far out there but you hit on my point the thing
shouldn't be in there in the first place.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Carlos
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally
,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

LOL I doubt they would ever go as far as removing anyone's screen reader
Dennis, but yes, I don't like the fact that such a capability is so
casually built-in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally
,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


Exactly my point Carlos. Plus they can remove software I read now what
if for instance they flag your screen reader and remove it? I just am
not a fan of win10.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Carlos
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally
,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the
Creators update. However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never
been an issue to begin with. Unfortunately, first impressions are
lasting and I freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude
towards Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally
,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


I won't go to windows10 until I have to. I can't completely turn off
updates and they collect absolutely to much shit. I shouldn't need 3rd
party apps to turn all there junk off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally
,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I
recommend
windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can
just make a local account and its just like your
windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.



On 5/21/2017 5:37 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
http://www.game-debate.com/news/22928/opinion-why-we-need-to-finally-a
ccept-windows-10-is-better-than-windows-7






















Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Carlos
 


Was that extended sarcastic rant really necessary?  I think you made your point within the first few sentences.  Although I'm not sure I really follow the logic that we should casually accept more intrusion into our privacy just because privacy is already an issue in modern society.  It is sort of like saying that if you have already been mugged once, you should just accept being mugged for the rest of your life.  Or just because the air is full of pollution, you might as well smoke cigarettes and poison your lungs even more.  Yes, using modern technology and the web does mean you will always be exposing your privacy to a certain degree, but that doesn't mean we should treat such practices as acceptable.  And if my operating system is exacerbating the problem, you're damned straight it's going to piss me off.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

if you are that concerned about privacy you should just get rid of the internet, get rid of all credit cards, may not want to talk to people in general. Even if someone knows your name via word of mouth they could go sell it to someone else. whenever you interact with anyone you give away automatically a certain amount of your privacy. the government knows your address because you are on SSI, cameras may be recording you when you walk down the street, go shopping, and so on. guess what, its 2017, we don't live in the year 1500. So either get used to it or cut ties with all civilization and go live in the woods or desert somewhere and do not under any circumstances interact with any other humans for the rest of your life. I, for one, choose to accept windows10, and google android recording all my voice assistance commands and stuff because I trust that on the other end that info is being used to improve the services I receive. That includes better voice recognition, faster ways to pay for products, and an improved windows and improved android experience. Even if I went to extremes and used a ubuntu linux live dvd for browsing so that when I shut off the computer no data is recorded on the hard drive? well I am still leaving an IP-address trail among other things. Sites have recorded whether or not I visited them, and they know my IP address which means if they wanted they could find out nearly exactly where I live. So not even a live OS image that disappears when I turn off the machine is 100% safe. So again I say giving up a certain amount of privacy either interacting on the internet or in the real world with other humans is just something that occurs. Accept it, or go move to antarctica at the south pole where temps get to minus 128 fahrenheit and enjoy your life of complete privacy. Also be sure to walk there, or to get rides and when you do get rides don't give your name, just tell people to drive you as far south as possible. And when you get to the ocean and need to go even further south you'll probably have to tell people you are a scientist that has to go study ice and snow so they will get you across the ocean to the south pole as quickly as possible so you can then get as far inland and away from other people so you can build your iglue and live in absolute privacy hunting penguins and eating fish the rest of your life. And if anyone comes around to disturb you, quickly dress up in your polar-bear costume and run at them making growling sounds and waving your arms and they'll run away thinking a hungry polar bear is about to eat them. Then you can go back to your nice quiet 100% private life. If you get bored you can always talk to yourself about how nice it was to live in society but then right away remind yourself... hey what's this? I'm a very paranoid person who cares about my privacy! nobody can know who I am or what I am doing, not even my name. Oh its been 40 years. uh, I forget what my name is. Oh well who cares. I have nobody to talk to and give it to anyway. So from now on, I'll call myself ezzerdoo. Sounds like a good caveMan name. Hey, the ice looks extra good today. I think I'll go melt some with my solar heater because I can't make a fire that makes smoke and that could attract other humans which is a big no no! and have a drink of nice fresh antarctic water.




On 5/21/2017 11:51 PM, Gene wrote:
Microsoft gave away Windows 10 because they expected to monitize it more than earlier versions.  Nothing is free.  Things may have greatly improved but, given that Windows 10 was given away for a year, and that this wasn't done for philanthropic reasons, it will take more persuasive arguments to persuade me that, despite things greatly improving, that they have improved as much as they should.  The most easily sold commodity when monitizing an operating system is user information.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators
update.  However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an
issue to begin with.  Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I
freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows
10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


I won't go to windows10 until I have to.  I can't completely turn off
updates and they collect absolutely to much shit.  I shouldn't need 3rd
party apps to turn all there junk off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can just
make a local account and its just like your
windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.



On 5/21/2017 5:37 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
> http://www.game-debate.com/news/22928/opinion-why-we-need-to-finally-a
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Re: article: - Opinion: Why We , Need To Finally , Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Josh Kennedy
 

yes just don't walk down the street dressed as a polar bear while living in florida when its 90 degrees outside. that'll get you lots of unwanted attention for sure.

On 5/22/2017 8:04 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

Hmmm, I thought life as a hermit had gone out of fashion years ago. People do still try it occasionally, but you have to be healthy, strong, be able to use all five senses, and you probably want some kind of transportation if only a horse or a canoe. Solitude ain't all it's cracked up to be, especially if you come down with some illness or you get injured while building your hermitage in the back woods.

All you can do about privacy is to learn to protect yourself as best you can, and know that these days, you can't go off the grid without a good deal of trouble. Is it worth the aggravation? I don't think so. Take precautions and pray for protection. Also, if you're concerned about Big Brother monitoring you, remember that you are part of the trillions of messages and other data that flows through the Net daily. You're just one in a crowd. Unless you use prevocative language, make unusual purchases, act strangely when away from home, nobody is going to care.

Ann P.


Re: article: - Opinion: Why We , Need To Finally , Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Hmmm, I thought life as a hermit had gone out of fashion years ago. People do still try it occasionally, but you have to be healthy, strong, be able to use all five senses, and you probably want some kind of transportation if only a horse or a canoe. Solitude ain't all it's cracked up to be, especially if you come down with some illness or you get injured while building your hermitage in the back woods.

All you can do about privacy is to learn to protect yourself as best you can, and know that these days, you can't go off the grid without a good deal of trouble. Is it worth the aggravation? I don't think so. Take precautions and pray for protection. Also, if you're concerned about Big Brother monitoring you, remember that you are part of the trillions of messages and other data that flows through the Net daily. You're just one in a crowd. Unless you use prevocative language, make unusual purchases, act strangely when away from home, nobody is going to care.

Ann P.

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Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Josh Kennedy
 

if it runs fine on xp and you still want to use it on win10, you can run windows xp in a virtual machine. there are a few out there with speech built in. there's stuff i like that only runs on xp such as the old infovox230 tts. so i just use a win xp vm when i want to use such things.



On 5/22/2017 7:34 AM, Monte Single wrote:

Please refrain from making such blanket statements.

 

There are lots of devices that will not run on win 10. My older Epson scan was a fine example;  it worked fine on xp. Niether Epson  nor windows provided drivers for it.  That’s just my example; I am sure there are   thousands   of othere  functioning devices that went to the recycle bin as mine did.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: May-22-17 5:08 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

 

hi,

However, almost all drivers have win10 versions. You might check the manufacturer's website, or uninstall and reinstall the driver.

 

On 5/22/2017 6:55 AM, Lenny McHugh wrote:

The last Microsoft tech to whom I spoke told me that he is still running win 7. He told me that not all devices have drivers for win 10. My wife has a dye sublimation printer. It will not work on the win 10 laptop.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:51 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

 

Microsoft gave away Windows 10 because they expected to monitize it more than earlier versions.  Nothing is free.  Things may have greatly improved but, given that Windows 10 was given away for a year, and that this wasn't done for philanthropic reasons, it will take more persuasive arguments to persuade me that, despite things greatly improving, that they have improved as much as they should.  The most easily sold commodity when monitizing an operating system is user information.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:44 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

 

Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators
update.  However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an
issue to begin with.  Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I
freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows
10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


I won't go to windows10 until I have to.  I can't completely turn off
updates and they collect absolutely to much shit.  I shouldn't need 3rd
party apps to turn all there junk off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can just
make a local account and its just like your
windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.



On 5/21/2017 5:37 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
> http://www.game-debate.com/news/22928/opinion-why-we-need-to-finally-a
> ccept-windows-10-is-better-than-windows-7
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Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Josh Kennedy
 

just go find a polar bear photo online and set it as your windows wallpaper background. that should scare any horrible privacy-stealing humans away from your machine. one look and they'll run away for sure!

On 5/22/2017 1:22 AM, Dennis L wrote:
I agree my point is far out there but you hit on my point the thing shouldn't be in there in the first place.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

LOL I doubt they would ever go as far as removing anyone's screen reader Dennis, but yes, I don't like the fact that such a capability is so casually built-in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


Exactly my point Carlos. Plus they can remove software I read now what if for instance they flag your screen reader and remove it? I just am not a fan of win10.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators update. However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an issue to begin with. Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


I won't go to windows10 until I have to. I can't completely turn off updates and they collect absolutely to much shit. I shouldn't need 3rd party apps to turn all there junk off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can just make a local account and its just like your
windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.



On 5/21/2017 5:37 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
http://www.game-debate.com/news/22928/opinion-why-we-need-to-finally-a
ccept-windows-10-is-better-than-windows-7





















Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Josh Kennedy
 

also guess what? due to you guys sending emails back and forth on this list, I could if I wanted, get all your IP addresses. and then guess what? I could hack all your machines using a live linux disk and with a few well chosen commands in the linux terminal I could break your whole windows OS so next time you turn on the machine it will not boot up at all it'll just say OS not found or unrecoverable OS. But why would I do that? I have better things to do with my life such as reading audio books, visiting friends and family, watching tv, going to amusement parks, eating pizza and drinking coffee and stuff. could it be done? sure. the point is it does not have to be microsoft removing stuff. sounds like some folks better pack up and move to antarctica. don't worry, you could all take slate and styluses with you when you move there and if you are bored, write yourself emails in braille. don't forget your polarbear costume so you can dress up and scare away those horrible evil privacy-stealing humans who may come around every 10 years.

On 5/22/2017 1:17 AM, Dennis L wrote:
Exactly my point Carlos. Plus they can remove software I read now what if for instance they flag your screen reader and remove it? I just am not a fan of win10.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators update. However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an issue to begin with. Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


I won't go to windows10 until I have to. I can't completely turn off updates and they collect absolutely to much shit. I shouldn't need 3rd party apps to turn all there junk off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can just make a local account and its just like your
windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.



On 5/21/2017 5:37 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
http://www.game-debate.com/news/22928/opinion-why-we-need-to-finally-a
ccept-windows-10-is-better-than-windows-7















Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

enes sarıbaş
 

couldn't have said it better. Ironicly, the crappy apple oses people praise for being extremely user friendly and transparent collect at least as much, if not more information than windows 10.  But you don't see apple making headlines for collecting data do you?


On 5/22/2017 2:43 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

if you are that concerned about privacy you should just get rid of the internet, get rid of all credit cards, may not want to talk to people in general. Even if someone knows your name via word of mouth they could go sell it to someone else. whenever you interact with anyone you give away automatically a certain amount of your privacy. the government knows your address because you are on SSI, cameras may be recording you when you walk down the street, go shopping, and so on. guess what, its 2017, we don't live in the year 1500. So either get used to it or cut ties with all civilization and go live in the woods or desert somewhere and do not under any circumstances interact with any other humans for the rest of your life. I, for one, choose to accept windows10, and google android recording all my voice assistance commands and stuff because I trust that on the other end that info is being used to improve the services I receive. That includes better voice recognition, faster ways to pay for products, and an improved windows and improved android experience. Even if I went to extremes and used a ubuntu linux live dvd for browsing so that when I shut off the computer no data is recorded on the hard drive? well I am still leaving an IP-address trail among other things. Sites have recorded whether or not I visited them, and they know my IP address which means if they wanted they could find out nearly exactly where I live. So not even a live OS image that disappears when I turn off the machine is 100% safe. So again I say giving up a certain amount of privacy either interacting on the internet or in the real world with other humans is just something that occurs. Accept it, or go move to antarctica at the south pole where temps get to minus 128 fahrenheit and enjoy your life of complete privacy. Also be sure to walk there, or to get rides and when you do get rides don't give your name, just tell people to drive you as far south as possible. And when you get to the ocean and need to go even further south you'll probably have to tell people you are a scientist that has to go study ice and snow so they will get you across the ocean to the south pole as quickly as possible so you can then get as far inland and away from other people so you can build your iglue and live in absolute privacy hunting penguins and eating fish the rest of your life. And if anyone comes around to disturb you, quickly dress up in your polar-bear costume and run at them making growling sounds and waving your arms and they'll run away thinking a hungry polar bear is about to eat them. Then you can go back to your nice quiet 100% private life. If you get bored you can always talk to yourself about how nice it was to live in society but then right away remind yourself... hey what's this? I'm a very paranoid person who cares about my privacy! nobody can know who I am or what I am doing, not even my name. Oh its been 40 years. uh, I forget what my name is. Oh well who cares. I have nobody to talk to and give it to anyway. So from now on, I'll call myself ezzerdoo. Sounds like a good caveMan name. Hey, the ice looks extra good today. I think I'll go melt some with my solar heater because I can't make a fire that makes smoke and that could attract other humans which is a big no no! and have a drink of nice fresh antarctic water.




On 5/21/2017 11:51 PM, Gene wrote:
Microsoft gave away Windows 10 because they expected to monitize it more than earlier versions.  Nothing is free.  Things may have greatly improved but, given that Windows 10 was given away for a year, and that this wasn't done for philanthropic reasons, it will take more persuasive arguments to persuade me that, despite things greatly improving, that they have improved as much as they should.  The most easily sold commodity when monitizing an operating system is user information.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators
update.  However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an
issue to begin with.  Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I
freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows
10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


I won't go to windows10 until I have to.  I can't completely turn off
updates and they collect absolutely to much shit.  I shouldn't need 3rd
party apps to turn all there junk off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can just
make a local account and its just like your
windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.



On 5/21/2017 5:37 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
> http://www.game-debate.com/news/22928/opinion-why-we-need-to-finally-a
> ccept-windows-10-is-better-than-windows-7
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Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Josh Kennedy
 

hmmm interesting. I think they can flag stuff but not remove it. removing it would require them hacking your machine remoting into it and then uninstalling it. besides why would a company do that? remove someone's screen reader? what reason do they have? do you even know how rediculous your statement sounds? remove a screen reader? lol

On 5/22/2017 1:17 AM, Dennis L wrote:
Exactly my point Carlos. Plus they can remove software I read now what if for instance they flag your screen reader and remove it? I just am not a fan of win10.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators update. However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an issue to begin with. Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows 10.
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From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


I won't go to windows10 until I have to. I can't completely turn off updates and they collect absolutely to much shit. I shouldn't need 3rd party apps to turn all there junk off.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can just make a local account and its just like your
windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.



On 5/21/2017 5:37 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
http://www.game-debate.com/news/22928/opinion-why-we-need-to-finally-a
ccept-windows-10-is-better-than-windows-7















Re: article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7 #article

Josh Kennedy
 

oh yes, windows10 run much faster than windows7 on this 11 year old laptop as well. way way faster.

On 5/22/2017 1:06 AM, Lenron wrote:
I find that 10 runs even better than 8 on this laptop.

On 5/21/17, Lenny McHugh <LennyMcHugh@comcast.net> wrote:
The last Microsoft tech to whom I spoke told me that he is still running win

7. He told me that not all devices have drivers for win 10. My wife has a
dye sublimation printer. It will not work on the win 10 laptop.

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept

Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Microsoft gave away Windows 10 because they expected to monitize it more
than earlier versions. Nothing is free. Things may have greatly improved
but, given that Windows 10 was given away for a year, and that this wasn't
done for philanthropic reasons, it will take more persuasive arguments to
persuade me that, despite things greatly improving, that they have improved

as much as they should. The most easily sold commodity when monitizing an
operating system is user information.

Gene
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From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept

Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

Oh yes, and of course most of them are disabled by default in the Creators
update. However as far as I'm concerned, this should have never been an
issue to begin with. Unfortunately, first impressions are lasting and I
freely admit my initial experience has soured my attitude towards Windows
10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7


I won't go to windows10 until I have to. I can't completely turn off
updates and they collect absolutely to much shit. I shouldn't need 3rd
party apps to turn all there junk off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] article: - Opinion: Why We ,Need To Finally ,Accept
Windows 10 Is Better Than Windows 7

I really like windows10. I would never go back to windows7 and I recommend
windows10 to everybody. if you don't want the microsoft account you can
just
make a local account and its just like your
windows7 machine but it'll run lots lots faster.



On 5/21/2017 5:37 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
http://www.game-debate.com/news/22928/opinion-why-we-need-to-finally-a
ccept-windows-10-is-better-than-windows-7















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