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Re: JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode

Carlos
 

Quite often in Windows 10 dialogs, I experience a similar problem where the JAWS cursor sees no text on the screen and says "blank". I can't be sure, but I suspect at least some of these problems are related to changes in the accessibility model starting with Windows 8 which forced Freedom Scientific to stop using mirror display drivers.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode


Windows 10, build 1607/14393, JAWS 17/18.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 22:07:29 -0400, you wrote:

Also, what versions of JAWS and Windows are you running?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in
administrator mode


Actually, I slightly misspoke. If something appears on the screen as a
result of program output, JAWS speaks it. If I type, I can hear what I
type but cannot edit it. Doggonnit, only happens when run as admin.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 21:39:58 -0400, you wrote:

Do you mean that it won't automatically read new text printed to the
console
or that you can't review what is displayed using the JAWS cursor?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in
administrator mode


Anybody know why this is? It's most annoying. I'm trying to run the
Distributed Imaging deployment tool in administrator mode, and I can't
read a darn thing!










Re: JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode

Steve Matzura
 

Windows 10, build 1607/14393, JAWS 17/18.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 22:07:29 -0400, you wrote:

Also, what versions of JAWS and Windows are you running?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in
administrator mode


Actually, I slightly misspoke. If something appears on the screen as a
result of program output, JAWS speaks it. If I type, I can hear what I
type but cannot edit it. Doggonnit, only happens when run as admin.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 21:39:58 -0400, you wrote:

Do you mean that it won't automatically read new text printed to the
console
or that you can't review what is displayed using the JAWS cursor?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in
administrator mode


Anybody know why this is? It's most annoying. I'm trying to run the
Distributed Imaging deployment tool in administrator mode, and I can't
read a darn thing!










Re: JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode

Steve Matzura
 

First time I restarted JAWS, it didn't speak anything automatically,
but I could read with the JAWS Cursor. Second time, it spoke
everything all the time, like it was locked in SayAll mode. I'll take
either of those over nothingness.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 21:55:20 -0400, you wrote:

Try restarting JAWS after the administrator prompt has opened. It is not a
permanent solution even if it works, but I'm curious to see if it makes a
difference.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in
administrator mode


Hi, Carlos, and thanks for the ver'r'r'ry quick reply!

I mean both. JAWS speaks when I type, and if I just press ENTER, it
will speak the prompt, but I can't read it with either the JAWS or
Invisible Cursors. Can't read any part of the screen in fact. How odd
that it only happens when CMD is run as administrator.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 21:39:58 -0400, you wrote:

Do you mean that it won't automatically read new text printed to the
console
or that you can't review what is displayed using the JAWS cursor?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in
administrator mode


Anybody know why this is? It's most annoying. I'm trying to run the
Distributed Imaging deployment tool in administrator mode, and I can't
read a darn thing!










Re: JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode

Carlos
 

Also, what versions of JAWS and Windows are you running?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode


Actually, I slightly misspoke. If something appears on the screen as a
result of program output, JAWS speaks it. If I type, I can hear what I
type but cannot edit it. Doggonnit, only happens when run as admin.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 21:39:58 -0400, you wrote:

Do you mean that it won't automatically read new text printed to the console
or that you can't review what is displayed using the JAWS cursor?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in
administrator mode


Anybody know why this is? It's most annoying. I'm trying to run the
Distributed Imaging deployment tool in administrator mode, and I can't
read a darn thing!






Re: JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode

Steve Matzura
 

Actually, I slightly misspoke. If something appears on the screen as a
result of program output, JAWS speaks it. If I type, I can hear what I
type but cannot edit it. Doggonnit, only happens when run as admin.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 21:39:58 -0400, you wrote:

Do you mean that it won't automatically read new text printed to the console
or that you can't review what is displayed using the JAWS cursor?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in
administrator mode


Anybody know why this is? It's most annoying. I'm trying to run the
Distributed Imaging deployment tool in administrator mode, and I can't
read a darn thing!






Re: need help please

Steve Matzura
 

That's a great application. I don't have it, but I know many who do,
and they say it's supposed to be very easy to use, which is why they
got it in the first place. What are you not able to do with it?

On Mon, 29 May 2017 20:36:17 -0400, you wrote:

Hello there, I just got an app called just press record and I am having trouble with has anyone heard of this and can anybody help?
Feel free to join us at the following address
angelsonges+subscribe@groups.io


Re: JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode

Carlos
 

Try restarting JAWS after the administrator prompt has opened. It is not a permanent solution even if it works, but I'm curious to see if it makes a difference.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode


Hi, Carlos, and thanks for the ver'r'r'ry quick reply!

I mean both. JAWS speaks when I type, and if I just press ENTER, it
will speak the prompt, but I can't read it with either the JAWS or
Invisible Cursors. Can't read any part of the screen in fact. How odd
that it only happens when CMD is run as administrator.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 21:39:58 -0400, you wrote:

Do you mean that it won't automatically read new text printed to the console
or that you can't review what is displayed using the JAWS cursor?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in
administrator mode


Anybody know why this is? It's most annoying. I'm trying to run the
Distributed Imaging deployment tool in administrator mode, and I can't
read a darn thing!






Re: JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode

Steve Matzura
 

Hi, Carlos, and thanks for the ver'r'r'ry quick reply!

I mean both. JAWS speaks when I type, and if I just press ENTER, it
will speak the prompt, but I can't read it with either the JAWS or
Invisible Cursors. Can't read any part of the screen in fact. How odd
that it only happens when CMD is run as administrator.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 21:39:58 -0400, you wrote:

Do you mean that it won't automatically read new text printed to the console
or that you can't review what is displayed using the JAWS cursor?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in
administrator mode


Anybody know why this is? It's most annoying. I'm trying to run the
Distributed Imaging deployment tool in administrator mode, and I can't
read a darn thing!






Re: JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode

Carlos
 

Do you mean that it won't automatically read new text printed to the console or that you can't review what is displayed using the JAWS cursor?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode


Anybody know why this is? It's most annoying. I'm trying to run the
Distributed Imaging deployment tool in administrator mode, and I can't
read a darn thing!


JAWS doesn't read command-prompt window running in administrator mode

Steve Matzura
 

Anybody know why this is? It's most annoying. I'm trying to run the
Distributed Imaging deployment tool in administrator mode, and I can't
read a darn thing!


Re: ObjPad NVDA addon

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi David,
 
I'm sorry.  I only posted the direct download links for people that had read Josh's post, & might want to give the program a look see.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

I got it from your first message, I just wanted to know why you were posting it and what it did, thanks.
 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
Hi Señor David,
 
The URL is:
 
 
Here's Josh's original post:
From: Josh Kennedy
I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Ferrin via Groups.Io
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
What is this for Mr. Mike?
 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
Hi All,
 
Below are the download links for both ObjPad versions:
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.





David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.

David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.


need help please

 

Hello there, I just got an app called just press record and I am having trouble with has anyone heard of this and can anybody help?
Feel free to join us at the following address
angelsonges+subscribe@groups.io


NVDA 2017.2 available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

NVDA 2017.2 is officially available.


Version 2017.2 of the free NVDA screen Reader from NV Access is now available for download. Highlights of this release include full support for audio ducking in the Windows 10 Creators Update; fixes for several selection issues in browse mode, including problems with select all; significant improvements in Microsoft Edge support; and improvements on the web such as indication of elements marked as current (using aria-current).

NVDA is used by 10s of thousands of blind and vision impaired people spanning more than 120 countries, enabling them to socialise, get an education and participate in the workforce regardless of their location, language or economic situation. However, NV Access needs your help to continue this important work. Please consider making a donation when downloading.

To download NVDA, please visit our Download page.

The full what's new is below, which I know if of interest to many:

2017.2

Highlights of this release include full support for audio ducking in the Windows 10 Creators Update; fixes for several selection issues in browse mode, including problems with select all; significant improvements in Microsoft Edge support; and improvements on the web such as indication of elements marked as current (using aria-current).

New Features

  • Cell border information can now be reported in Microsoft Excel by using NVDA+f. (#3044)
  • In web browsers, NVDA now indicates when an element has been marked as current (specifically, using the aria-current attribute). (#6358)
  • Automatic language switching is now supported in Microsoft Edge. (#6852)
  • Added support for Windows Calculator on Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB (Long-Term Servicing Branch) and Server. (#6914)
  • Performing the read current line command three times quickly spells the line with character descriptions. (#6893)
  • New language: Burmese.
  • Unicode up and down arrows and fraction symbols are now spoken appropriately. (#3805)

Changes

  • When navigating with simple review in applications using UI Automation, more extraneous objects are now ignored, making navigation easier. (#6948#6950)

Bug Fixes

  • Web page menu items can now be activated while in browse mode. (#6735)
  • Pressing escape while the configuration profile "Confirm Deletion" dialog is active now dismisses the dialog. (#6851)
  • Fixed some crashes in Mozilla Firefox and other Gecko applications where the multi-process feature is enabled. (#6885)
  • Reporting of background color in screen review is now more accurate when text was drawn with a transparent background. (#6467)
  • Improved support for control descriptions provided on web pages in Internet Explorer 11 (specifically, support for aria-describedby within iframes and when multiple IDs are provided). (#5784)
  • In the Windows 10 Creators Update, NVDA's audio ducking again works as in previous Windows releases; i.e. Duck with speech and sounds, always duck and no ducking are all available. (#6933)
  • NVDA will no longer fail to navigate to or report certain (UIA) controls where a keyboard shortcut is not defined. (#6779)
  • Two empty spaces are no longer added in keyboard shortcut information for certain (UIA) controls. (#6790)
  • Certain combinations of keys on HIMS displays (e.g. space+dot4) no longer fail intermittently. (#3157)
  • Fixed an issue when opening a serial port on systems using certain languages other than English which caused connecting to braille displays to fail in some cases. (#6845)
  • Reduced the chance of the configuration file being corrupted when Windows shuts down. Configuration files are now written to a temporary file before replacing the actual configuration file. (#3165)
  • When performing the read current line command twice quickly to spell the line, the appropriate language is now used for the spelled characters. (#6726)
  • Navigating by line in Microsoft Edge is now up to three times faster in the Windows 10 Creators Update. (#6994)
  • NVDA no longer announces "Web Runtime grouping" when focusing Microsoft Edge documents in the Windows 10 Creators Update. (#6948)
  • All existing versions of SecureCRT are now supported. (#6302)
  • Adobe Acrobat Reader no longer crashes in certain PDF documents (specifically, those containing empty ActualText attributes). (#7021#7034)
  • In browse mode in Microsoft Edge, interactive tables (ARIA grids) are no longer skipped when navigating to tables with t and shift+t. (#6977)
  • In browse mode, pressing shift+home after selecting forward now unselects to the beginning of the line as expected. (#5746)
  • In browse mode, select all (control+a) no longer fails to select all text if the caret is not at the start of the text. (#6909)
  • Fixed some other rare selection problems in browse mode. (#7131)

Changes for Developers

  • Commandline arguments are now processed with Python's argparse module, rather than optparse. This allows certain options such as -r and -q to be handled exclusively. (#6865)
  • core.callLater now queues the callback to NVDA's main queue after the given delay, rather than waking the core and executing it directly. This stops possible freezes due to the core accidentally going to sleep after processing a callback, in the midle of a modal call such as the desplaying of a message box. (#6797)
  • The InputGesture.identifiers property has been changed so that it is no longer normalized. (#6945)
    • Subclasses no longer need to normalize identifiers before returning them from this property.
    • If you want normalized identifiers, there is now an InputGesture.normalizedIdentifiers property which normalizes the identifiers returned by the identifiers property .
  • The InputGesture.logIdentifier property is now deprecated. Callers should use InputGesture.identifiers[0] instead. (#6945)
  • Removed some deprecated code:
    • `speech.REASON_*` constants: `controlTypes.REASON_*` should be used instead. (#6846)
    • `i18nName` for synth settings: `displayName` and `displayNameWithAccelerator` should be used instead. (#6846#5185)
    • `config.validateConfig`. (#6846#667)
    • `config.save`: `config.conf.save` should be used instead. (#6846#667)
  • The list of completions in the autocomplete context menu of the Python Console no longer shows any object path leading up to the final symbol being completed. (#7023)
  • There is now a unit testing framework for NVDA. (#7026)
    • Unit tests and infrastructure are located in the tests/unit directory. See the docstring in the tests\unit\init.py file for details.
    • You can run tests using "scons tests". See the "Running Tests" section of readme.md for details.
    • If you are submitting a pull request for NVDA, you should first run the tests and ensure they pass.
Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Re: ObjPad NVDA addon

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi Josh,

I could have said “yes” to these, but in order to initiate a culture change, I’d like you to tell me what you think about your own suggestions after critically thinking for a while. In other words, I’d like to know your definition of how practical these would be. But to give you some hints:

  • Labels should be done by app vendors after being notified by users.
  • New apps and new ways of doing things spring up all the time.

 

To others: there is a reason why I’m doing it like this: NVDA is NOT JAWS, and to embark on a culture change where individuals actually think carefully about their suggestions. And no, I’m not mean when I do things like this, as sometimes it is helpful to let folks think before answering their own questions, thereby fostering better understanding (one or two members may know what I’m talking about as I went through this with them on the BrailleNote list a few years back).

Cheers,

Joseph

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

 

hi Joseph,

Would it be possible for objPad to scrape the OS or the currently running program to get information about unlabeled objects and buttons kind of like how audex accessibility redefined auto-labels buttons in android and gives more information about objects? to label objects by giving them a name in an edit box or by labeling them using their tooltips? also making NVDA think an unknown object or something it is recognizing wrong could be changed to a different object type like if NVDA thinks something should be a button and is really a list box or something is a graphic but you know its a checkbox, you re-define its roll using a dialog box? also monitoring objects and partial text in objects for changes and either speaking them automatically, with a command, or through some trigger like color or highlight change, a certain object on screen changing some characteristic, appearing or disappearing, of something happening with another object and then saving all these settings to a file to share with other users? It would be excellent if objPad could not only review objects, but also add an alternative to flat review and could become the ultimate object addon. Also in the OCR addon could you add a shortcut that will open a website to a free OCR that uses tesseract that people can download so they could OCR pdf files and read the result in their web browser something like freeOCR with tesseract?

 

 

On 5/29/2017 7:19 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Partially correct: the overall purpose of this add-on is to provide easier means of performing object navigation and similar commands, as well as to emulate Narrator’s scan mode.

Source: add-on author (me).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 4:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

 

NVDA ObjPad addon is sort of a combination of the jaws cursor and the jaws touch cursor rolled into one.

 

 

On 5/29/2017 6:25 PM, David Ferrin via Groups.Io wrote:

What is this for Mr. Mike?

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

 

Hi All,

 

Below are the download links for both ObjPad versions:

 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:43 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

 

I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on. 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.





David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.

 

 


Re: ObjPad NVDA addon

David Ferrin <dpf.1996@...>
 

I got it from your first message, I just wanted to know why you were posting it and what it did, thanks.
 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 7:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
Hi Señor David,
 
The URL is:
 
 
Here's Josh's original post:
From: Josh Kennedy
I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Ferrin via Groups.Io
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
What is this for Mr. Mike?
 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
Hi All,
 
Below are the download links for both ObjPad versions:
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.





David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.

David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.


Re: ObjPad NVDA addon

Josh Kennedy
 

hi Joseph,

Would it be possible for objPad to scrape the OS or the currently running program to get information about unlabeled objects and buttons kind of like how audex accessibility redefined auto-labels buttons in android and gives more information about objects? to label objects by giving them a name in an edit box or by labeling them using their tooltips? also making NVDA think an unknown object or something it is recognizing wrong could be changed to a different object type like if NVDA thinks something should be a button and is really a list box or something is a graphic but you know its a checkbox, you re-define its roll using a dialog box? also monitoring objects and partial text in objects for changes and either speaking them automatically, with a command, or through some trigger like color or highlight change, a certain object on screen changing some characteristic, appearing or disappearing, of something happening with another object and then saving all these settings to a file to share with other users? It would be excellent if objPad could not only review objects, but also add an alternative to flat review and could become the ultimate object addon. Also in the OCR addon could you add a shortcut that will open a website to a free OCR that uses tesseract that people can download so they could OCR pdf files and read the result in their web browser something like freeOCR with tesseract?



On 5/29/2017 7:19 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Partially correct: the overall purpose of this add-on is to provide easier means of performing object navigation and similar commands, as well as to emulate Narrator’s scan mode.

Source: add-on author (me).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 4:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

 

NVDA ObjPad addon is sort of a combination of the jaws cursor and the jaws touch cursor rolled into one.

 

 

On 5/29/2017 6:25 PM, David Ferrin via Groups.Io wrote:

What is this for Mr. Mike?

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

 

Hi All,

 

Below are the download links for both ObjPad versions:

 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:43 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

 

I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on. 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.




David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.

 



Re: ObjPad NVDA addon

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Señor David,
 
The URL is:
 
 
Here's Josh's original post:
From: Josh Kennedy
I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on. 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

What is this for Mr. Mike?
 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
Hi All,
 
Below are the download links for both ObjPad versions:
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on. 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.





David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.


Re: ObjPad NVDA addon

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi,

Partially correct: the overall purpose of this add-on is to provide easier means of performing object navigation and similar commands, as well as to emulate Narrator’s scan mode.

Source: add-on author (me).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 4:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

 

NVDA ObjPad addon is sort of a combination of the jaws cursor and the jaws touch cursor rolled into one.

 

 

On 5/29/2017 6:25 PM, David Ferrin via Groups.Io wrote:

What is this for Mr. Mike?

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

 

Hi All,

 

Below are the download links for both ObjPad versions:

 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:43 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon

 

I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on. 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.




David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.

 


Re: ObjPad NVDA addon

Josh Kennedy
 

NVDA ObjPad addon is sort of a combination of the jaws cursor and the jaws touch cursor rolled into one.



On 5/29/2017 6:25 PM, David Ferrin via Groups.Io wrote:
What is this for Mr. Mike?
 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
Hi All,
 
Below are the download links for both ObjPad versions:
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on. 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.





David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.


Re: ObjPad NVDA addon

Josh Kennedy
 

objPad gives NVDA powerful easy to use screen review features sort of like the jaws cursor but a lot better.



On 5/29/2017 6:25 PM, David Ferrin via Groups.Io wrote:
What is this for Mr. Mike?
 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
Hi All,
 
Below are the download links for both ObjPad versions:
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] ObjPad NVDA addon
 
I just downloaded the ObjPad NVDA addon. And I have to say its amaizing!
I got the latest one the development version of the addon. If you want a
jaws cursor experience with NVDA and an easy way to use the review
cursor then give ObjPad a try. only other thing I would add is these
things. 1. ability to change an object's type so if you come across an
unknown object you can tell NvDA to treat it like a list box or button
or checkbox or any other object type. ability to rename objects or
relabel them and also ability to name an object based on its tooltip
text or technical info the programmer gave about that object in its
programming code. 2. add review cursor into objPad's navigation modes so
you could just use arrow keys for flat review. 3. monitor objects and
parts of objects for changes, either speak those changes or silence the
object or part of the object depending on triggers such as highlight,
color, font change, object appears or disappears, and so on. 4. set
different voice characteristics and even different voices for object
types, example, graphics may have a higher pitch, buttons a lower pitch,
checkboxes may even use a different speech voice or variant or speech
tts engine entirely. outspoken screen reader for windows 95 and windows
3.1 had that ability. 5. ability to save all settings to a file and
share your custom object settings with other NVDA users on an app by app
basis.





David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.

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