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Re: Issue with Juice

Flor Lynch
 

Vicki,
I made a mistake last night, when I thought/assumed that QCast (a paid program by Chris Toth) would play an episode of the M-W podcasts; it won’t. And if I attempt to download one, I get, “failed to download”, and an OK button. However, there, in the description (or Show Notes?), one can read the Word Of The Day’s definition etc. Perhaps they have now made the podcast such that only iTunes can play it? (I’ve seen so
me popdcasts like that.)

From: Vicki
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue with Juice
Interesting! Thank you. I wrote to them earlier and got no response, so who knows.
 
Thank you so much for checking it out.
 
Vicki
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue with Juice
 
Well, I tried. It looks like a wall has been put up, to keep Juice and its likeout! Perhaps the Webster people will revisit it if they get enough reports from people no longer being able to download the podcast. The other thing that occurs to me is that the filename is a very long one, even though it is an .mp3 suffix (or at least that’s what it says).
 
I got it in qCast, which uses iTunes. (One’s iPhone’s podcatchers do this also.) 
 
From: Vicki
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue with Juice
There are actually three feeds that should work. Don't ask why. I have had this podcast for at least two years and no problem. Here are the feeds.
 
The first one is the original that stopped working, although as I said, the [podcast shows up, is just will not download.
 
The last feed is the ITunes feed, which did the same thing, although I did have to edit the feed because it kept showing up with http twice.
 
The middle feed is the feed from learn outloud.
 
They all do exactly the same thing in Juice.
 
 

Merriam-Websters Word of the Day

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/word/index.xml

 

or

 

http://webster.com/word/index.xml

 

or

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wotd/feed/rss2

 

----- Original Message -----
>From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue with Juice
 
hi,
Used it work properly in Juice? What is the URL, or the feed URL of the podcast, so I can take a look. (I have had issues with Juice not accepting certain podcasts, or it trying to download all episodes of a podcast rather than just the latest one which it’d been  set for. Sometimes, you can make small alterations with the feed URL it gets the podcast episodes from, so that Juice will treat the podcast as it should. But this is a partial solution, working for some offending podcasts but not for all. (In other words, there are some podcasts that Juice just won’t handle decently or at all. Thus it’s good to have more than one pod-catcher, given the awkwardnesses and lack of flexibility that iTunes can present.) )
 
 
From: Vicki
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Issue with Juice
Good Afternoon,
 
I have a particular podcast that comes in on Juice with the attempt to download, but has been 0% for about 2 weeks now.
 
This is an every day podcast.
 
I subscribed to it on ITunes on my laptop and ITunes will download it.
 
I am not having issues with any other podcast using Juice. The feeds are the same for both Juice & ITunes for this podcast.
 
Is there a setting in Juice that I can change that may have gotten messed up?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 


Re: iPhone Or iPad

Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Hello, and iPhone 5s and up too, including iPhone 7.

On 4 Jun 2017, at 22:56, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:

hi, sorry, iPads have touch ID, from the second generation air and above.

On 02/06/17 11:09 AM, Ashley Breger via Groups.Io wrote:
I would go with the iPhone 7, because it also has touch ID for getting into it as opposed to using a passcode where is the iPad does not have touch ID.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 2, 2017, at 12:59 AM, Victor <victorelawrence@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all:

Soon, depending on my choice, I will have the opportunity to obtain
either an iPhone 7 or an iPad. Probably an iPad Pro.

If all of you had to choose between an iPhone or an iPad, which would
you choose? I'm leaning toward choosing the iPhone 7 because of its
portability and all of the great apps that can help me be more
independent and productive. Plus, the iPhone 7 seems to have the same
computing power and speed as an iPad or a Windows PC. Any thoughts?

Thank you,

Victor




Re: How to wear aftershock headphones

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Kay,
 
That switch you're asking about is the on & off switch.  Up, towards the volume switch is, OFF, & obviously, down towards the charging port is, ON.  Below is my Users manual in text format.  I don't have an electronic version.
 
Aftershokz Sports M3 AS450 Wired Bone Conduction Headphones W/Mic
 
  SPORTZ M3
 
MOBILE BONE CONDUCTION HEADPHONES
 
 
 
Parts descriptions
• Transducers: Two soft pads, each about the size of a thumbnail, that rest on the cheekbones. The Transducers are housed on both ends of the headphones.
 
• Wraparound Headband: The Wraparound Headband is the plastic headband that loops around the base of the head when wearing the device.
 
• Reflective Sticker: A single 3 centimeter long silver Reflective Strip located on the outside of the Reflective Headband. The Reflective Strip is intended to improve visibility in dark conditions.
 
• Inline Control Box: A rectangular box located partway down the 45 centimeter headphone cable, connected to the headphones. The Inline Control Box includes three buttons to control the headphones.
 
• Cable Clip: A small clip located on the back of Inline Control Box to secure the cable to clothing during exercise.
 
• Call Button: A round, orange button located in the front side of Inline Control Box. Click once to answer/hang up a call.
 
• Volume Up/Down Button: The Volume Controls are two small buttons, located on the side of the Inline Control Box. There is a raised dot on the Volume Up Button, and the opposite button is the Volume Down Button.
 
• Micro-USB Charging Port: The Micro-USB Charging Port is located on the lower right side of the Inline Control Box and covered by a small flexible protective cover. The cover can be opened using a fingernail and is hinged at the back. When opened, the Micro-USB charging port is revealed.  The smooth side of the charging cable faces the same direction as the Cable Clip located on the back of the Inline Control Box when plugged in to charge the headset.
 
• Power Switch: The Power Switch is located on the Inline Control Box, between the Volume Down Button and the Micro-USB Charging Port. Switch the Power Switch toward the Micro-USB Charging Port to turn on the headphones, and switch the opposite way to turn off the headphones.
 
• LED Indicator: A small light located on the lower front side of Inline Control Box. When fully charged, the LED Indicator will appear blue, and when the device is being charged, the LED Indicator will appear red.
 
• 3.5mm Connector: Small plug to insert into headphone jack on the electronic device or mobile device.
 
• Microphone:
 
Accessories
• Micro-USB Charging Cable: The smooth side of the charging cable faces the same direction as the Cable Clip located on the back of the Inline Control Box when plugged in to charge the headset.
 
• Zippered Storage Pouch
 
• Instruction Manual
 
• Warranty Registration Card
 
What’s special?
• Sportz M3 are stereo mobile headphones with phone call and music play functions that rely on bone conduction technology to transmit sound.
• The patent-pending OpenFit™ design promises ambient sound awareness and extended comfort that is unmatched with traditional headphones.
• PremiumPitch™ is our patent-pending technology that provides the finest and most detailed audio.
• A nanotechnology coating and watertight rubber gaskets repel sweat and moisture from the inside out.
 
How to wear
• Begin by holding the headphones horizontally, with the transducer side facing up, closest to your body. Lift the headphones over your head, so the back of the wraparound headband sets in place at the base of your head and the Transducers rest on your cheekbones in front of your ears (not nested inside or covering your ears). 
 
 
How to operate Sportz M3
• To turn on/off
Switch the Power Switch toward the Micro-USB Charging Port to turn on the headphones, and switch the opposite way to turn off the headphones. The LED Indicator will flash a blue light every four seconds when the headphones are on.
 
Note: If the power is on and there is no signal input for 15 minutes, the headphones will automatically enter Standby Mode to save power. The LED Indicator will flash twice with a blue light every 10 seconds.
 
Once in Standby Mode, there will be a two second delay before playing music or making phone calls while the headphones “wake up”.
 
When the battery is low, the LED Indicator will flash a red light every four seconds.
 
• Charging
Connect Sportz M3 to a standard USB port on your PC or a wall charger with the Micro-USB Charging Cable. Sportz M3 will be fully charged within two hours. The LED Indicator will display a solid red light when charging, and will turn solid blue when it’s fully charged.
 
Note: Though the headphones may have power right out of the box, it’s recommended that Sportz M3 be fully charged before their first use.
 
The battery is designed to last the life of the product. It should only be removed by a recycling facility. Any attempt to remove or replace your battery may damage the product and void the warranty.
 
• Call Button:
Press the Call Button once to answer/hang up the call.
 
• Volume Control
Use the Volume Up and Volume Down Buttons to increase or decrease the volume.
 
• Reflective Sticker:
For maximum visibility in darkness, make sure the Reflective Sticker is not covered by hair or clothing.
 
Specifications
Transducer type: bone conduction transducers
Transducer sensitivity: 100 ± 3dB
Frequency response: 20Hz – 20KHz
Microphone sensitivity: -41 ± 3dB
 

Rechargeable lithium battery
Playback time is up to 12 hours
Charging time is 2 hours
Cable length: 51 inches/130 centimeters
Weight: 1.6 ounces/45 grams
 
Storage and maintenance
• Store the headphones in cool and dry place. The working temperature should be 0~45℃(32~113ºF). Working in a cold/hot environment or highly humid area will reduce the life of battery.
• If stored for a long period of time, recharge the headphones before using again.
• The headphones are sweat resistant, but are NOT waterproof. Please DO NOT submerse the headphones in water.
• Listening to headphones at a high volume may affect your hearing and the audio will be distorted.
• Clean the headphones with a soft dry cloth.
• Do not charge the headphones right after exercising, in case there’s sweat inside the charging port. This could lead to the circuit burning while charging. Keep the charging port dry before connecting to the charger to reduce this risk.
Note: Design and specifications are subject to change without notice. For the most up-to-date product information, please visit aftershokz.com.
 
How to contact us
AfterShokz
6311 Fly Road
Suite 106
East Syracuse, NY 13057
sales@...
aftershokz.com
 
Note: If you need to return your product for repair, replacement or warranty service, please contact the AfterShokz Customer Support Center at: 1-315-218-0308 (United States).
 

 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Oh yes and something else I forgot. Where do you get the electronic version of the users guide for these headphones? A friend of mine thought he had them but then he deleted them accidentally apparently. Thanks much.
On Jun 3, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Kay,
 
Here's some excerpts from the users manual, plus comments I've added:
Aftershokz Sports M3 AS450 Wired Bone Conduction Headphones W/Mic
MOBILE BONE CONDUCTION HEADPHONES
Parts descriptions
• Transducers: Two soft pads, each about the size of a thumbnail, that rest on the cheekbones. The Transducers are housed on both ends of the headphones.
These I said go on the jaw bones in front of each ear hole with the rubber pads against the skin.  They are the little round things at the end of each of the humps in the headset.
• Wraparound Headband: The Wraparound Headband is the plastic headband that loops around the base of the head when wearing the device.
 
• Inline Control Box: A rectangular box located partway down the 45 centimeter headphone cable, connected to the headphones. The Inline Control Box includes three buttons to control the headphones.
 
• Cable Clip: A small clip located on the back of Inline Control Box to secure the cable to clothing during exercise.
 
• Call Button: A round, orange button located in the front side of Inline Control Box. Click once to answer/hang up a call.
 
• Volume Up/Down Button: The Volume Controls are two small buttons, located on the side of the Inline Control Box. There is a raised dot on the Volume Up Button, and the opposite button is the Volume Down Button.
 
• Micro-USB Charging Port: The Micro-USB Charging Port is located on the lower right side of the Inline Control Box and covered by a small flexible protective cover. The cover can be opened using a fingernail and is hinged at the back. When opened, the Micro-USB charging port is revealed.  The smooth side of the charging cable faces the same direction as the Cable Clip located on the back of the Inline Control Box when plugged in to charge the headset.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Hey Mike, I will try that. I feel like the speakers were pointing more in a different direction than towards each other but I will give Vet a check out is that I get near them again. Thanks so much appreciate it. Man! Do I hate dictate. I need to get more proficient with his braille thing. Take care.
On Jun 3, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Kay,
 
I wear mine with the hoop going around the back of my head, with the humps going over the top of the ears, & the wire behind the left ear.  The little speakers go in front of the ears, even with your ear holes, resting on your jaw bone on either side.  You might need to move the headset up / down or forward / backwards a little bit to where it will fit you most comfortably, but the little speakers need to be on your jaw bones, not in your ears.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:39 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Hi R,
We have a pair of wired aftershock headphones. The question I have is what is the best way to wear them and what position should they be on your head for maximum sound quality. I don't know if they just sound crappy or we don't know what we're doing. Any suggestions would be really appreciated.

Kay Malmquist
Ask me about healthy chocolate!
Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to. 
Sent from my iPhone


Re: The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

Pinky <pinky14@...>
 

Hi,

I came into this subject late. What topic are we talking about that we want to stop talking about?

Mr. Ed

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Wohlgamuth
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 10:50 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

 

suggestion, has it been suggested that we take this topic to the chat group where I believe it should have been in the first place..? Sound like a good discussion for that group.  Just an idea ! Have a Great Day! de

<KF8LT><Jim>.

 

On 05-Jun-17 09:18, Rajmund wrote:

LOL kicking people for off topic posts, particularly when there are like 10 of them doing it, is not really a viable solution, sorry...  Locking the topic, yes, that's another thing entirely, which I agree with.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 19:48:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

LOL I've never had to forcefully close a topic so far.  I would do it if it
was necessary, but probably only as a last resort.  Although I agree that
you can't win.  Close an off topic thread too forcefully, and you're accused
of being heavy-handed.  Don't close it soon enough, and you'll have people
leaving the list or complaining that it's off topic.  I sleep comfortably
enough as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrin via Groups.Io" <dpf.1996@...
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere


Do what we do on JAWS Users, my guys know where the kick switch is located
and how to use it.

Then we get accused of being heavy handed but then again everybody is not
going to like you for some reason or another.  I still sleep well at night.

Remind me again why we do what we do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 12:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

LOL no one ever wants to join the chat list just to continue an off topic
conversation.  I've given up on suggesting it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere


There is  a chat sub group for this group why not move it there?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Dave
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

Hello to the List-

Carlos has been very accommodating and Gracious to allow some of us to
conduct a conversation about a subject that never had anything to do with
Technology.
--
It is a topic that touches all of us, as  I would guess that each one of
us
have experienced the "Special Treatment" given to us for no other reason
than we are Blind.
Of all the Posts made on this Subject, the one that sticks with me is
the one written by Gene.   He attempted to bring out the possible Root
for such decisions like the one that Yanked Cliff off his Flight.

Gene spoke of the underlying Fear of Blindness, and some of the
ramifications this Fear has when the sighted need to interact with those
who
are Blind.  I thought Gene was Hitting some Nails right on the Head.

As interesting as this subject is, and it has other Branches we haven't
even
gotten to, such as Why don't the Blind Scream and Yell about the other
Special Treatment the Blind receive, such as the Tax break on our Income
Taxes, or when some get their Computers and other Gear paid for by the
State
etc.  Seems to me, some enjoy the Extra benefits that come with
Blindness,
but Scream like Crazy when they get restricted from
something they believe they have the Right to do.    I find this to be
one of those ironic things that rolls around in the back of my mind when
some blind complain about some small thing they believe to be
discriminatory.  And what Cliff experienced is not a Small thing.

This conversation needs to be moved to a List that is all about any topic
that might come to mind.

I've been told of one called Blind Life.  I know nothing about it, other
than it started up last December, and is open to Topics not in alinement
with this Tech Lists guidelines.

I am not trying to steal members, I am only telling of another list that
handles other subjects than Tech.   By all means, stay subscribed here,
and if interested, subscribe to the other list too.

Here is the Subscription information.

Send an email like this one:

blindlife+subscribe@groups.io


Now back to your normally scheduled subject matter=

Grumpy Dave






















 


Re: electric repair rip off

Pinky <pinky14@...>
 

Hi,
I would call another electrician company and asked them how much they would
have charged to install that main breaker. I would do this today. I think
charging over $700 to install and pay for the breaker is way over charge.
Even if you figure $200 an hour and they charge you 30 minutes that would
only be $100 and the cost of the breaker. It just seem to me that $700 is
way too high. Like I said I would call electrician in your area and asked
them how much it would cost to install a main breaker. Maybe asked them how
much they charge an hour.
Mr. Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rajmund
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 7:50 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] electric repair rip off

Hi,
I would have refused to pay, LOL. Just ring the police. That's just way
beyond what one can afford.

----- Original Message -----
From: enes sar캇ba힊 <enes.saribas@gmail.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 00:13:49 +0300
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] electric repair rip off

hi,

oh my god! That cost is robbery, plain and simple. Charging that much for
only 14 minutes of work is beyond insane, it's insane x100.


On 6/5/2017 12:07 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

This is why it really pays to join a neighborhood email list, or
to
simply get to know your neighbors. That's highway robbery. It
should
have cost you maybe a quarter of that. Did you contact the BBB?

Ann P.


Re: How to wear aftershock headphones

Cristóbal
 

Sometimes when I’m leaning back or laying down, I rest the headband part of my Trekz on my forhead to keep it from moving around on what I may be leaning or layign down on. As long as you rest the two speakr parts on your cheaks, you’ll get audio.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 12:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

 

Hey Mike, I will try that. I feel like the speakers were pointing more in a different direction than towards each other but I will give Vet a check out is that I get near them again. Thanks so much appreciate it. Man! Do I hate dictate. I need to get more proficient with his braille thing. Take care.
On Jun 3, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Kay,

 

I wear mine with the hoop going around the back of my head, with the humps going over the top of the ears, & the wire behind the left ear.  The little speakers go in front of the ears, even with your ear holes, resting on your jaw bone on either side.  You might need to move the headset up / down or forward / backwards a little bit to where it will fit you most comfortably, but the little speakers need to be on your jaw bones, not in your ears.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:39 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

 

Hi R,
We have a pair of wired aftershock headphones. The question I have is what is the best way to wear them and what position should they be on your head for maximum sound quality. I don't know if they just sound crappy or we don't know what we're doing. Any suggestions would be really appreciated.

 

Kay Malmquist
Ask me about healthy chocolate!
Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to. 

Sent from my iPhone


[acb-chat] The Americans With Disabilities Act Is Under Attack in Congress - Rewire

Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...>
 

Hi all! 
I recieved this and knew that I needed to pass this on. The message below effects everyone with a disability. 


 
Blessed be!!! 
Kendra Schaber 
National Federation of the Blind 
"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown 
  
 Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone SE. Typed to you with my Keys To Go blue tooth Keyboard, the only keyboard I know to work with an IPhone SE. 

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Demaya, Diego via acb-chat" <acb-chat@...>
Date: June 5, 2017 at 08:56:58 PDT
To: "'General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide range of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or whatever comes to mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list.'" <acb-chat@...>, "acbt@groups.io" <acbt@groups.io>, "hcb-l@..." <hcb-l@...>
Cc: "Demaya, Diego" <Diego.Demaya@...>
Subject: [acb-chat] The Americans With Disabilities Act Is Under Attack in Congress - Rewire
Reply-To: "General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide range of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or whatever comes to mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list." <acb-chat@...>

The Americans With Disabilities Act Is Under Attack in Congress

May 30, 2017, 9:47am

Robyn Powell

The House Judiciary Committee is currently considering imposing significant limitations to the ADA through the passage of the ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017.

Never in my life as a disabled woman have I been so terrified of losing my civil rights as I am now.
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On July 26, 1990, George H.W. Bush signed the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA) into law, proclaiming, “Let the shameful wall of exclusion finally come tumbling down!” Although I was only 8 years old, I still remember its passage and the increased accessibility that followed.

The ADA has both literally and figuratively opened countless doors for people like me, by requiring entities that are open to the public—such as restaurants, movie theaters, hospitals, hotels, and museums—be fully accessible to people with disabilities. The ADA also requires employers, as well as public and private entities, to provide reasonable accommodations to people with disabilities and prohibits discrimination based on disability.

Of course, passage of the ADA did not make ramps and elevators magically appear; nor did it immediately halt discrimination against people with disabilities. Progress takes time, which, as a wheelchair user, I have witnessed firsthand. Indeed, for several years after the law’s passage, my parents or I would always have to call places in advance to make sure that they were wheelchair accessible. For years, the answer was “no.” But times have changed, and now I no longer feel I need to take these extra steps before leaving my home. Nearly 27 years after the passage of the ADA, I now expect that all businesses will be accessible. And that is liberating.

While we surely have much further to go, the ADA has unequivocally led to much greater inclusion and accessibility and far less discrimination. Now, however, Congress is currently considering imposing significant limitations to the ADA through the passage of the ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017 (HR 620), sponsored by Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX).

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Currently, if a person with a disability encounters an accessibility barrier at a business, they have two options: They can file a complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), which will investigate and decide if a violation has occurred. DOJ may enter into mediation with the person and the business, which is a low-cost approach to resolve ADA violations fairly quickly. DOJ may also sue the business on the person’s behalf. Alternatively, people with disabilities may file a lawsuit in court, bypassing DOJ altogether. The cornerstone of current enforcement options is that the violation can often be resolved swiftly.

If the ADA Education and Reform Act is passed, however, a person with a disability would be required to give a written notice to a business owner who has barriers to access. The business owner would then have 60 days to even acknowledge that there is a problem—and then another 120 days to make substantial progress toward correcting the violation. In other words, people with disabilities would be forced to wait 180 days to enforce their civil rights.

The ADA Education and Reform Act is premised on trying to curb “drive-by” ADA lawsuits: that is, frivolous lawsuits brought by attorneys alleging ADA violations. Surely, serial litigators, attorneys who simply bring lawsuits to line their pockets, must be stopped. However, these bills are not the solution.

To be fair, I vehemently oppose frivolous ADA lawsuits, where people seek to use the ADA for their own monetary gain. I cherish this law and hate hearing that some misuse it. However, it’s important to note that they are not as prevalent as some believe. An analysis of ADA lawsuits in 2016 identified just 12 individuals and one organization that have filed more than 100 lawsuits each. But frivolous lawsuits are not an ADA issue; they are a state and court problem. Indeed, ethics rules bar attorneys from bringing frivolous lawsuits. Rather than go after people with disabilities, attention should be focused on stopping these few bad attorneys.

Notably, passage of the ADA and ADA Amendments Act involved the disability community and bipartisan lawmakers working together with the business community. These “notification bills,” however, do not. Rather, they are the result of business owners and their lobbyists.

The disability community is not interested in more lawsuits; we simply want accessibility. There is no such thing as the “ADA police.” Enforcement depends on people with disabilities who know their rights to challenge violations. Filing lawsuits is timely and expensive. Finding an attorney that is knowledgeable about the ADA is very challenging. I say this because I believe it is fairly safe to assume that there are far more ADA violations occurring than we will ever hear of. As a disabled woman, I encounter violations daily.

Nevertheless, there’s a prevailing belief that ADA regulations are overly technical and most alleged violations are “minor.” The regulations concerning accessible parking spots are frequently used to demonstrate how ADA regulations are too specific. What opponents don’t understand is that the width of parking spaces matter for people with disabilities who drive, such as myself. I drive a wheelchairaccessible van. If someone parks too close, I am literally stuck because no one besides me can drive my van. This has happened to me more times than I count, leaving me stranded outside for hours, until the person returns to their car.

Throughout the years, based on a belief that the ADA is being abused and has become a money-maker, Congress has introduced a number of “notification bills.” These bills are problematic and have been strongly opposed by the disability community.

It is also important to dispel the myth that ADA lawsuits can be profitable for plaintiffs; that is plain wrong. When the ADA was being drafted, as a compromise between the business community and the disability community, the disability community gave up the option to obtain damages for a business’s failure to comply with the law by allowing only injunctive relief—meaning the business owner has to change their behavior—and attorneys’ fees.

Settlements or court orders that involve money damages for accessibility violations are based on state laws in a handful of states, not the ADA. Therefore, adding a notice requirement before people with disabilities can enforce their rights will do nothing to prevent businesses from being subjected to money damages. Moreover, if the accessibility violations in question are truly minor, as the proponents of these bills claim, it would not be difficult for businesses to fix the problem and resolve the issue quickly, with minimal attorneys’ fees. Hence, the issue is not an ADA one.

In addition, it’s important to recognize that the ADA includes several provisions that protect businesses from unreasonable requirements. For example, the ADA does not require any action that would cause an “undue burden” or that is “not readily achievable,” which is defined as “easily accomplished and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense.”

Adding a notification requirement won’t make serial lawsuits go away. Instead, it simply sends the message to business owners that they don’t have to worry about complying with the ADA until they receive a letter notifying them that they are discriminating against people with disabilities. In other words, instead of complying, they can just “wait and see” if they are caught.

The imposition of a months-long “waiting period,” during which a business may continue to violate the law and deny access to people with disabilities once it has received a notice that it is violating the ADA, is simply not reasonable.

In short, the premise of bills like the ADA Education and Reform Act is that businesses should not be responsible for knowing their obligations to comply with a law that has been in effect for nearly three decades, but people with disabilities should instead be responsible not only for knowing the accessibility requirements of that law, but also for determining when a business is not in compliance and for knowing the specific requirements of the notice that they must provide.

Establishing and running a business involves compliance with numerous laws, including tax laws, property laws, health and safety laws, environmental laws, civil rights laws, and many others. Compliance with these legal obligations is part of the cost of doing business.

Business owners, and society as a whole, have had nearly 27 years to become aware of the ADA. Indeed, I would guess that every business owner knows at least one person with a disability and is at least vaguely aware that the ADA exists. Moreover, there are plenty of resources that provide information on ADA requirements to business owners. Indeed, the DOJ offers free technical assistance as well as several publicly available publications. In addition, there are ADA technical assistance centers across the country that offer information, guidance, and training on how to implement the ADA. There is simply no excuse for noncompliance at this point.

The bill is currently in the U.S. House Judiciary Committee; it has 18 co-sponsors. Never in my life as a disabled woman have I been so terrified of losing my civil rights as I am now. With the stroke of a pen, much that the disability community has fought hard for could be undone. What civil rights law will be on the chopping block next?


Re: window-eyes 9.4.5 remote assistance

Gene
 

There is very likely on the Jeff Dreams web site mentioned earlier in relation to the Tripple talk, an add on that will allow the DECTalk to work.  I don't have time to check now.  Do a Google search for NVDA DecTalk Express add on and see what you find.  Check the address in the search result to see what site the result leads to before following the link.  I am assuming the person is using the DECTalk Express.  If not, use whatever is appropriate in the search.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 10:55 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] window-eyes 9.4.5 remote assistance

I'm trying to help a friend of mine.  He is running windows 7 ultimate 32
bit.  I am running windows 7 home 64 bit.  We are both running the MS Office
version of window-eyes 9.4.5.
When either of us chooses request assistance and click the send request
button, we get a dot net framework error.
Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. input string was not
in a correct format.
Clicking the details button yields no further information.

This was working before window-eyes was discontinued.  Has anyone else
encountered this error?  I wonder if VFO has depricated this service.

I'd love to get my friend to switch to NvDA but he is unwilling to make the
change because we can't get his dectalk express synthesizer to work with
NVDA.

I would appreciate any suggestions anyone might have on this.

Thanks,
George




Re: The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

Carlos
 

Yes, it has been suggested.  It is almost always suggested when this happens, but as I said members are not usually interested in subscribing to the chat list just to continue an off topic discussion.  Besides, such threads usually taper off on their own or with a gentle reminder as this one seems to have so I'm not overly concerned.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

suggestion, has it been suggested that we take this topic to the chat group where I believe it should have been in the first place..? Sound like a good discussion for that group.  Just an idea ! Have a Great Day! de

<KF8LT><Jim>.


On 05-Jun-17 09:18, Rajmund wrote:
LOL kicking people for off topic posts, particularly when there are like 10 of them doing it, is not really a viable solution, sorry...  Locking the topic, yes, that's another thing entirely, which I agree with.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 19:48:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

LOL I've never had to forcefully close a topic so far.  I would do it if it
was necessary, but probably only as a last resort.  Although I agree that
you can't win.  Close an off topic thread too forcefully, and you're accused
of being heavy-handed.  Don't close it soon enough, and you'll have people
leaving the list or complaining that it's off topic.  I sleep comfortably
enough as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrin via Groups.Io" <dpf.1996@...
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere


Do what we do on JAWS Users, my guys know where the kick switch is located
and how to use it.

Then we get accused of being heavy handed but then again everybody is not
going to like you for some reason or another.  I still sleep well at night.

Remind me again why we do what we do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 12:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

LOL no one ever wants to join the chat list just to continue an off topic
conversation.  I've given up on suggesting it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere


There is  a chat sub group for this group why not move it there?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Dave
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

Hello to the List-

Carlos has been very accommodating and Gracious to allow some of us to
conduct a conversation about a subject that never had anything to do with
Technology.
--
It is a topic that touches all of us, as  I would guess that each one of
us
have experienced the "Special Treatment" given to us for no other reason
than we are Blind.
Of all the Posts made on this Subject, the one that sticks with me is
the one written by Gene.   He attempted to bring out the possible Root
for such decisions like the one that Yanked Cliff off his Flight.

Gene spoke of the underlying Fear of Blindness, and some of the
ramifications this Fear has when the sighted need to interact with those
who
are Blind.  I thought Gene was Hitting some Nails right on the Head.

As interesting as this subject is, and it has other Branches we haven't
even
gotten to, such as Why don't the Blind Scream and Yell about the other
Special Treatment the Blind receive, such as the Tax break on our Income
Taxes, or when some get their Computers and other Gear paid for by the
State
etc.  Seems to me, some enjoy the Extra benefits that come with
Blindness,
but Scream like Crazy when they get restricted from
something they believe they have the Right to do.    I find this to be
one of those ironic things that rolls around in the back of my mind when
some blind complain about some small thing they believe to be
discriminatory.  And what Cliff experienced is not a Small thing.

This conversation needs to be moved to a List that is all about any topic
that might come to mind.

I've been told of one called Blind Life.  I know nothing about it, other
than it started up last December, and is open to Topics not in alinement
with this Tech Lists guidelines.

I am not trying to steal members, I am only telling of another list that
handles other subjects than Tech.   By all means, stay subscribed here,
and if interested, subscribe to the other list too.

Here is the Subscription information.

Send an email like this one:

blindlife+subscribe@groups.io


Now back to your normally scheduled subject matter=

Grumpy Dave

























window-eyes 9.4.5 remote assistance

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

I'm trying to help a friend of mine. He is running windows 7 ultimate 32 bit. I am running windows 7 home 64 bit. We are both running the MS Office version of window-eyes 9.4.5.
When either of us chooses request assistance and click the send request button, we get a dot net framework error.
Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. input string was not in a correct format.
Clicking the details button yields no further information.

This was working before window-eyes was discontinued. Has anyone else encountered this error? I wonder if VFO has depricated this service.

I'd love to get my friend to switch to NvDA but he is unwilling to make the change because we can't get his dectalk express synthesizer to work with NVDA.

I would appreciate any suggestions anyone might have on this.

Thanks,
George


Re: The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

Jim Wohlgamuth
 

suggestion, has it been suggested that we take this topic to the chat group where I believe it should have been in the first place..? Sound like a good discussion for that group.  Just an idea ! Have a Great Day! de

<KF8LT><Jim>.


On 05-Jun-17 09:18, Rajmund wrote:
LOL kicking people for off topic posts, particularly when there are like 10 of them doing it, is not really a viable solution, sorry...  Locking the topic, yes, that's another thing entirely, which I agree with.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 19:48:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

LOL I've never had to forcefully close a topic so far.  I would do it if it
was necessary, but probably only as a last resort.  Although I agree that
you can't win.  Close an off topic thread too forcefully, and you're accused
of being heavy-handed.  Don't close it soon enough, and you'll have people
leaving the list or complaining that it's off topic.  I sleep comfortably
enough as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrin via Groups.Io" <dpf.1996@...
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere


Do what we do on JAWS Users, my guys know where the kick switch is located
and how to use it.

Then we get accused of being heavy handed but then again everybody is not
going to like you for some reason or another.  I still sleep well at night.

Remind me again why we do what we do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 12:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

LOL no one ever wants to join the chat list just to continue an off topic
conversation.  I've given up on suggesting it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere


There is  a chat sub group for this group why not move it there?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Dave
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

Hello to the List-

Carlos has been very accommodating and Gracious to allow some of us to
conduct a conversation about a subject that never had anything to do with
Technology.
--
It is a topic that touches all of us, as  I would guess that each one of
us
have experienced the "Special Treatment" given to us for no other reason
than we are Blind.
Of all the Posts made on this Subject, the one that sticks with me is
the one written by Gene.   He attempted to bring out the possible Root
for such decisions like the one that Yanked Cliff off his Flight.

Gene spoke of the underlying Fear of Blindness, and some of the
ramifications this Fear has when the sighted need to interact with those
who
are Blind.  I thought Gene was Hitting some Nails right on the Head.

As interesting as this subject is, and it has other Branches we haven't
even
gotten to, such as Why don't the Blind Scream and Yell about the other
Special Treatment the Blind receive, such as the Tax break on our Income
Taxes, or when some get their Computers and other Gear paid for by the
State
etc.  Seems to me, some enjoy the Extra benefits that come with
Blindness,
but Scream like Crazy when they get restricted from
something they believe they have the Right to do.    I find this to be
one of those ironic things that rolls around in the back of my mind when
some blind complain about some small thing they believe to be
discriminatory.  And what Cliff experienced is not a Small thing.

This conversation needs to be moved to a List that is all about any topic
that might come to mind.

I've been told of one called Blind Life.  I know nothing about it, other
than it started up last December, and is open to Topics not in alinement
with this Tech Lists guidelines.

I am not trying to steal members, I am only telling of another list that
handles other subjects than Tech.   By all means, stay subscribed here,
and if interested, subscribe to the other list too.

Here is the Subscription information.

Send an email like this one:

blindlife+subscribe@groups.io


Now back to your normally scheduled subject matter=

Grumpy Dave

























Re: Issue with Juice

Vicki W
 

Interesting! Thank you. I wrote to them earlier and got no response, so who knows.
 
Thank you so much for checking it out.
 
Vicki
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue with Juice

Well, I tried. It looks like a wall has been put up, to keep Juice and its likeout! Perhaps the Webster people will revisit it if they get enough reports from people no longer being able to download the podcast. The other thing that occurs to me is that the filename is a very long one, even though it is an .mp3 suffix (or at least that’s what it says).
 
I got it in qCast, which uses iTunes. (One’s iPhone’s podcatchers do this also.) 
 
From: Vicki
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue with Juice
There are actually three feeds that should work. Don't ask why. I have had this podcast for at least two years and no problem. Here are the feeds.
 
The first one is the original that stopped working, although as I said, the [podcast shows up, is just will not download.
 
The last feed is the ITunes feed, which did the same thing, although I did have to edit the feed because it kept showing up with http twice.
 
The middle feed is the feed from learn outloud.
 
They all do exactly the same thing in Juice.
 
 

Merriam-Websters Word of the Day

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/word/index.xml

 

or

 

http://webster.com/word/index.xml

 

or

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wotd/feed/rss2

 

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue with Juice
 
hi,
Used it work properly in Juice? What is the URL, or the feed URL of the podcast, so I can take a look. (I have had issues with Juice not accepting certain podcasts, or it trying to download all episodes of a podcast rather than just the latest one which it’d been  set for. Sometimes, you can make small alterations with the feed URL it gets the podcast episodes from, so that Juice will treat the podcast as it should. But this is a partial solution, working for some offending podcasts but not for all. (In other words, there are some podcasts that Juice just won’t handle decently or at all. Thus it’s good to have more than one pod-catcher, given the awkwardnesses and lack of flexibility that iTunes can present.) )
 
 
From: Vicki
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Issue with Juice
Good Afternoon,
 
I have a particular podcast that comes in on Juice with the attempt to download, but has been 0% for about 2 weeks now.
 
This is an every day podcast.
 
I subscribed to it on ITunes on my laptop and ITunes will download it.
 
I am not having issues with any other podcast using Juice. The feeds are the same for both Juice & ITunes for this podcast.
 
Is there a setting in Juice that I can change that may have gotten messed up?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 


Re: How to wear aftershock headphones

Kay Malmquist
 

Oh yes and something else I forgot. Where do you get the electronic version of the users guide for these headphones? A friend of mine thought he had them but then he deleted them accidentally apparently. Thanks much.

On Jun 3, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Kay,
 
Here's some excerpts from the users manual, plus comments I've added:
Aftershokz Sports M3 AS450 Wired Bone Conduction Headphones W/Mic
MOBILE BONE CONDUCTION HEADPHONES
Parts descriptions
• Transducers: Two soft pads, each about the size of a thumbnail, that rest on the cheekbones. The Transducers are housed on both ends of the headphones.
These I said go on the jaw bones in front of each ear hole with the rubber pads against the skin.  They are the little round things at the end of each of the humps in the headset.
• Wraparound Headband: The Wraparound Headband is the plastic headband that loops around the base of the head when wearing the device.
 
• Inline Control Box: A rectangular box located partway down the 45 centimeter headphone cable, connected to the headphones. The Inline Control Box includes three buttons to control the headphones.
 
• Cable Clip: A small clip located on the back of Inline Control Box to secure the cable to clothing during exercise.
 
• Call Button: A round, orange button located in the front side of Inline Control Box. Click once to answer/hang up a call.
 
• Volume Up/Down Button: The Volume Controls are two small buttons, located on the side of the Inline Control Box. There is a raised dot on the Volume Up Button, and the opposite button is the Volume Down Button.
 
• Micro-USB Charging Port: The Micro-USB Charging Port is located on the lower right side of the Inline Control Box and covered by a small flexible protective cover. The cover can be opened using a fingernail and is hinged at the back. When opened, the Micro-USB charging port is revealed.  The smooth side of the charging cable faces the same direction as the Cable Clip located on the back of the Inline Control Box when plugged in to charge the headset.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Hey Mike, I will try that. I feel like the speakers were pointing more in a different direction than towards each other but I will give Vet a check out is that I get near them again. Thanks so much appreciate it. Man! Do I hate dictate. I need to get more proficient with his braille thing. Take care.
On Jun 3, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Kay,
 
I wear mine with the hoop going around the back of my head, with the humps going over the top of the ears, & the wire behind the left ear.  The little speakers go in front of the ears, even with your ear holes, resting on your jaw bone on either side.  You might need to move the headset up / down or forward / backwards a little bit to where it will fit you most comfortably, but the little speakers need to be on your jaw bones, not in your ears.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:39 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Hi R,
We have a pair of wired aftershock headphones. The question I have is what is the best way to wear them and what position should they be on your head for maximum sound quality. I don't know if they just sound crappy or we don't know what we're doing. Any suggestions would be really appreciated.

Kay Malmquist
Ask me about healthy chocolate!
Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to. 
Sent from my iPhone


Re: How to wear aftershock headphones

Kay Malmquist
 

Hi Mike,
No not on the iPhone, on the aftershock. I think it's actually a keylock. I'll play around with it more to find out.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 8:09 AM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Kay,
 
What model is your iPhone?  I don't have a switch below my volume down button, to my knowledge anyways?  I use the 6 S E model.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Hey Mike,
I do have one more question for you about the iPhone. Right under the volume down button is eight to provision slide switch, do you know what that is for? Thanks much.
On Jun 3, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Kay,
 
Here's some excerpts from the users manual, plus comments I've added:
Aftershokz Sports M3 AS450 Wired Bone Conduction Headphones W/Mic
MOBILE BONE CONDUCTION HEADPHONES
Parts descriptions
• Transducers: Two soft pads, each about the size of a thumbnail, that rest on the cheekbones. The Transducers are housed on both ends of the headphones.
These I said go on the jaw bones in front of each ear hole with the rubber pads against the skin.  They are the little round things at the end of each of the humps in the headset.
• Wraparound Headband: The Wraparound Headband is the plastic headband that loops around the base of the head when wearing the device.
 
• Inline Control Box: A rectangular box located partway down the 45 centimeter headphone cable, connected to the headphones. The Inline Control Box includes three buttons to control the headphones.
 
• Cable Clip: A small clip located on the back of Inline Control Box to secure the cable to clothing during exercise.
 
• Call Button: A round, orange button located in the front side of Inline Control Box. Click once to answer/hang up a call.
 
• Volume Up/Down Button: The Volume Controls are two small buttons, located on the side of the Inline Control Box. There is a raised dot on the Volume Up Button, and the opposite button is the Volume Down Button.
 
• Micro-USB Charging Port: The Micro-USB Charging Port is located on the lower right side of the Inline Control Box and covered by a small flexible protective cover. The cover can be opened using a fingernail and is hinged at the back. When opened, the Micro-USB charging port is revealed.  The smooth side of the charging cable faces the same direction as the Cable Clip located on the back of the Inline Control Box when plugged in to charge the headset.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Hey Mike, I will try that. I feel like the speakers were pointing more in a different direction than towards each other but I will give Vet a check out is that I get near them again. Thanks so much appreciate it. Man! Do I hate dictate. I need to get more proficient with his braille thing. Take care.
On Jun 3, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Kay,
 
I wear mine with the hoop going around the back of my head, with the humps going over the top of the ears, & the wire behind the left ear.  The little speakers go in front of the ears, even with your ear holes, resting on your jaw bone on either side.  You might need to move the headset up / down or forward / backwards a little bit to where it will fit you most comfortably, but the little speakers need to be on your jaw bones, not in your ears.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:39 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Hi R,
We have a pair of wired aftershock headphones. The question I have is what is the best way to wear them and what position should they be on your head for maximum sound quality. I don't know if they just sound crappy or we don't know what we're doing. Any suggestions would be really appreciated.

Kay Malmquist
Ask me about healthy chocolate!
Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to. 
Sent from my iPhone


Re: Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Thanks for that; I'll take a look at the web site. That's why I asked.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 08:47:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

It does have a few more which are not included in Windows by default and
require the download of additional Microsoft utilities. The point is that
the
help
command only gives brief descriptions, while the website discusses their
usage in more detail with examples.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive


Hi Carlos,
Curious. Does the web site have more of these command lines,
than say, help.txt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:38:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

You can change the drive letter in Disk Management if you like.

The various commands are documented hundreds of places on the
web. However, one useful resource is here.
http://www.ss64.com/nt/index.html
You can also generate a list of available commands with basic
descriptions on the root of your C drive by typing
help>C:\help.txt
from the command prompt followed by Enter.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive


Well, I guess you might be a wee bit of a genius but, dont
you go getting a big head.

Yep, I got my 128GB thumb drive back. It now has its default
exfat format with its default alocation size. And, my C drive is
actually still there.

The thumb drive letter did bump up from F to G but, I guess
that doesnt matter.

Ill slightly revise these notes so I will better remember
them.

Carlos, where can I find a list of all of these command lines
that you use?

Many thanks for getting my drive back. And, especially for
sharing your knowledge.

James B

From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive

Yes that is correct. Each command has to be followed by Enter
as you described.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive

OK, starting with the clean command, how many different
commands were there? Do I hit enter after each command?

For example:

1. clean followed by enter
2. create partition primary followed by enter
3. select partition 1 followed by enter
4. format fs=exFAT quick followed by enter
5. assign followed by enter

Carlos,Sorry for my lack of experience . I am however,
learning more almost every day. .

Thanks,

James B



From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive

Try repeating the procedure again. I have occasionally
received an error when using the
clean
command for the first time to remove unusual partitioning.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive

Well, Im starting to wonder if dropping this thumb drive
on a hard tile floor a couple days back may have damaged it.

I got through your directions up to clean.

Then I got an error message so I stopped.

The drive now shows 0 free space. 0 used space. Unknown
drive size etc.

This turned out to be a PSY thumb drive. I have enough
drives around that it isnt important.

Thanks for your help,

James B



From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive

Actually upon further consideration, I don't know what you
used to write the ISO image to the flash drive or how the drive
may have been partitioned by that utility, but yes it may in fact
be a similar cause.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

No, the problem I was considering is generally associated
with Linux distros which will change the file system on the disk.
You can try the following, but make sure to backup any important
files as this procedure will wipe all existing data from the
drive.

1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog and type
CMD
followed by Enter.

2. After the command prompt opens type
diskpart

3. When the diskpart utility loads type

list disk

4. Carefully listen to the information displayed.
Review it with the JAWS cursor or equivalent if necessary. You
have to figure out which disk number is assigned to the drive you
want to use. The size column should give you an idea. Warning,
be absolutely sure that you have the correct disk number before
proceeding with the next steps or you could cause yourself
serious problems. If you are not confident that you have the
correct disk number, then I would strongly suggest that you not
proceed.

5. Once you are sure that you have the correct disk
number, just as an example type

select disk 1

1 is just an example and you should replace it with the
disk number which was displayed for the drive in the previous
step.

6. After it displays the message
"Disk 1 is now the selected disk",
type the following commands in order.

clean
create partition primary
select partition 1
format fs=exFAT quick
assign

7. Type
exit
to close the diskpart interface.

8. Finally, type
exit
again to close the command prompt window.

Now look in Computer/Explorer and see if the full 128 GB
capacity is available.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

I dont know if this is similar but I tried to use it
for creating a Win10 Creator recovery bootable drive.

I had already tried 2 smaller thumb drives for the same
purpose with no luck. All 3 attempts led to failure around 40%
in to the process.

The other 2 drives were not affected.

James B



From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

Also, have you recently used the drive for booting a
Linux distribution or anything similar?
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

But, Ive had over 55GB of TV shows on it before.

James B



From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

I doubt it ever had the higher capacity Formatting
probably undid whatever fraudulent configuration was on the drive
to make it report higher numbers.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 2:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

Hi all,

I recently formatted a cheap generic 128GB thumb
drive. Its original configuration was exfat with 128KB
allocation units and it had a capacity of 128GB.

After a quick format, the capacity changed to 32GB
and fat32.

I did a full format with Windows set to make the disk
exfat and that did work but the size is still only 32GB.

Its no big deal because this was a cheap free thumb
drive. However, I admit to being very curious.

Anyone know why the size of the thumb drive changed
after even a full format?

James B


**No one is totally worthless, they can always be
used as a bad example.


Re: The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

LOL kicking people for off topic posts, particularly when there are like 10 of them doing it, is not really a viable solution, sorry... Locking the topic, yes, that's another thing entirely, which I agree with.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 19:48:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

LOL I've never had to forcefully close a topic so far. I would do it if it
was necessary, but probably only as a last resort. Although I agree that
you can't win. Close an off topic thread too forcefully, and you're accused
of being heavy-handed. Don't close it soon enough, and you'll have people
leaving the list or complaining that it's off topic. I sleep comfortably
enough as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrin via Groups.Io" <dpf.1996=yahoo.com@groups.io
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere


Do what we do on JAWS Users, my guys know where the kick switch is located
and how to use it.

Then we get accused of being heavy handed but then again everybody is not
going to like you for some reason or another. I still sleep well at night.

Remind me again why we do what we do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 12:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

LOL no one ever wants to join the chat list just to continue an off topic
conversation. I've given up on suggesting it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere


There is a chat sub group for this group why not move it there?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Dave
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] The Time has come to move this Topic elsewhere

Hello to the List-

Carlos has been very accommodating and Gracious to allow some of us to
conduct a conversation about a subject that never had anything to do with
Technology.
--
It is a topic that touches all of us, as I would guess that each one of
us
have experienced the "Special Treatment" given to us for no other reason
than we are Blind.
Of all the Posts made on this Subject, the one that sticks with me is
the one written by Gene. He attempted to bring out the possible Root
for such decisions like the one that Yanked Cliff off his Flight.

Gene spoke of the underlying Fear of Blindness, and some of the
ramifications this Fear has when the sighted need to interact with those
who
are Blind. I thought Gene was Hitting some Nails right on the Head.

As interesting as this subject is, and it has other Branches we haven't
even
gotten to, such as Why don't the Blind Scream and Yell about the other
Special Treatment the Blind receive, such as the Tax break on our Income
Taxes, or when some get their Computers and other Gear paid for by the
State
etc. Seems to me, some enjoy the Extra benefits that come with
Blindness,
but Scream like Crazy when they get restricted from
something they believe they have the Right to do. I find this to be
one of those ironic things that rolls around in the back of my mind when
some blind complain about some small thing they believe to be
discriminatory. And what Cliff experienced is not a Small thing.

This conversation needs to be moved to a List that is all about any topic
that might come to mind.

I've been told of one called Blind Life. I know nothing about it, other
than it started up last December, and is open to Topics not in alinement
with this Tech Lists guidelines.

I am not trying to steal members, I am only telling of another list that
handles other subjects than Tech. By all means, stay subscribed here,
and if interested, subscribe to the other list too.

Here is the Subscription information.

Send an email like this one:

blindlife+subscribe@groups.io


Now back to your normally scheduled subject matter=

Grumpy Dave


Re: How to wear aftershock headphones

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Kay,
 
What model is your iPhone?  I don't have a switch below my volume down button, to my knowledge anyways?  I use the 6 S E model.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Hey Mike,
I do have one more question for you about the iPhone. Right under the volume down button is eight to provision slide switch, do you know what that is for? Thanks much.
On Jun 3, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Kay,
 
Here's some excerpts from the users manual, plus comments I've added:
Aftershokz Sports M3 AS450 Wired Bone Conduction Headphones W/Mic
MOBILE BONE CONDUCTION HEADPHONES
Parts descriptions
• Transducers: Two soft pads, each about the size of a thumbnail, that rest on the cheekbones. The Transducers are housed on both ends of the headphones.
These I said go on the jaw bones in front of each ear hole with the rubber pads against the skin.  They are the little round things at the end of each of the humps in the headset.
• Wraparound Headband: The Wraparound Headband is the plastic headband that loops around the base of the head when wearing the device.
 
• Inline Control Box: A rectangular box located partway down the 45 centimeter headphone cable, connected to the headphones. The Inline Control Box includes three buttons to control the headphones.
 
• Cable Clip: A small clip located on the back of Inline Control Box to secure the cable to clothing during exercise.
 
• Call Button: A round, orange button located in the front side of Inline Control Box. Click once to answer/hang up a call.
 
• Volume Up/Down Button: The Volume Controls are two small buttons, located on the side of the Inline Control Box. There is a raised dot on the Volume Up Button, and the opposite button is the Volume Down Button.
 
• Micro-USB Charging Port: The Micro-USB Charging Port is located on the lower right side of the Inline Control Box and covered by a small flexible protective cover. The cover can be opened using a fingernail and is hinged at the back. When opened, the Micro-USB charging port is revealed.  The smooth side of the charging cable faces the same direction as the Cable Clip located on the back of the Inline Control Box when plugged in to charge the headset.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Hey Mike, I will try that. I feel like the speakers were pointing more in a different direction than towards each other but I will give Vet a check out is that I get near them again. Thanks so much appreciate it. Man! Do I hate dictate. I need to get more proficient with his braille thing. Take care.
On Jun 3, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Kay,
 
I wear mine with the hoop going around the back of my head, with the humps going over the top of the ears, & the wire behind the left ear.  The little speakers go in front of the ears, even with your ear holes, resting on your jaw bone on either side.  You might need to move the headset up / down or forward / backwards a little bit to where it will fit you most comfortably, but the little speakers need to be on your jaw bones, not in your ears.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:39 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] How to wear aftershock headphones

Hi R,
We have a pair of wired aftershock headphones. The question I have is what is the best way to wear them and what position should they be on your head for maximum sound quality. I don't know if they just sound crappy or we don't know what we're doing. Any suggestions would be really appreciated.

Kay Malmquist
Ask me about healthy chocolate!
Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to. 
Sent from my iPhone


Re: electric repair rip off

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi,
I would have refused to pay, LOL. Just ring the police. That's just way beyond what one can afford.

----- Original Message -----
From: enes sar캇ba힊 <enes.saribas@gmail.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 00:13:49 +0300
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] electric repair rip off

hi,

oh my god! That cost is robbery, plain and simple. Charging that much
for only 14 minutes of work is beyond insane, it's insane x100.


On 6/5/2017 12:07 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

This is why it really pays to join a neighborhood email list, or to
simply get to know your neighbors. That's highway robbery. It should
have cost you maybe a quarter of that. Did you contact the BBB?

Ann P.


Re: Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

Carlos
 

It does have a few more which are not included in Windows by default and require the download of additional Microsoft utilities. The point is that the
help
command only gives brief descriptions, while the website discusses their usage in more detail with examples.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive


Hi Carlos,
Curious. Does the web site have more of these command lines,
than say, help.txt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:38:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

You can change the drive letter in Disk Management if you like.

The various commands are documented hundreds of places on the
web. However, one useful resource is here.
http://www.ss64.com/nt/index.html
You can also generate a list of available commands with basic
descriptions on the root of your C drive by typing
help>C:\help.txt
from the command prompt followed by Enter.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive


Well, I guess you might be a wee bit of a genius but, dont
you go getting a big head.

Yep, I got my 128GB thumb drive back. It now has its default
exfat format with its default alocation size. And, my C drive is
actually still there.

The thumb drive letter did bump up from F to G but, I guess
that doesnt matter.

Ill slightly revise these notes so I will better remember
them.

Carlos, where can I find a list of all of these command lines
that you use?

Many thanks for getting my drive back. And, especially for
sharing your knowledge.

James B

From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive

Yes that is correct. Each command has to be followed by Enter
as you described.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive

OK, starting with the clean command, how many different
commands were there? Do I hit enter after each command?

For example:

1. clean followed by enter
2. create partition primary followed by enter
3. select partition 1 followed by enter
4. format fs=exFAT quick followed by enter
5. assign followed by enter

Carlos,Sorry for my lack of experience . I am however,
learning more almost every day. .

Thanks,

James B



From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive

Try repeating the procedure again. I have occasionally
received an error when using the
clean
command for the first time to remove unusual partitioning.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive

Well, Im starting to wonder if dropping this thumb drive
on a hard tile floor a couple days back may have damaged it.

I got through your directions up to clean.

Then I got an error message so I stopped.

The drive now shows 0 free space. 0 used space. Unknown
drive size etc.

This turned out to be a PSY thumb drive. I have enough
drives around that it isnt important.

Thanks for your help,

James B



From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb
drive

Actually upon further consideration, I don't know what you
used to write the ISO image to the flash drive or how the drive
may have been partitioned by that utility, but yes it may in fact
be a similar cause.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

No, the problem I was considering is generally associated
with Linux distros which will change the file system on the disk.
You can try the following, but make sure to backup any important
files as this procedure will wipe all existing data from the
drive.

1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog and type
CMD
followed by Enter.

2. After the command prompt opens type
diskpart

3. When the diskpart utility loads type

list disk

4. Carefully listen to the information displayed.
Review it with the JAWS cursor or equivalent if necessary. You
have to figure out which disk number is assigned to the drive you
want to use. The size column should give you an idea. Warning,
be absolutely sure that you have the correct disk number before
proceeding with the next steps or you could cause yourself
serious problems. If you are not confident that you have the
correct disk number, then I would strongly suggest that you not
proceed.

5. Once you are sure that you have the correct disk
number, just as an example type

select disk 1

1 is just an example and you should replace it with the
disk number which was displayed for the drive in the previous
step.

6. After it displays the message
"Disk 1 is now the selected disk",
type the following commands in order.

clean
create partition primary
select partition 1
format fs=exFAT quick
assign

7. Type
exit
to close the diskpart interface.

8. Finally, type
exit
again to close the command prompt window.

Now look in Computer/Explorer and see if the full 128 GB
capacity is available.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

I dont know if this is similar but I tried to use it
for creating a Win10 Creator recovery bootable drive.

I had already tried 2 smaller thumb drives for the same
purpose with no luck. All 3 attempts led to failure around 40%
in to the process.

The other 2 drives were not affected.

James B



From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

Also, have you recently used the drive for booting a
Linux distribution or anything similar?
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

But, Ive had over 55GB of TV shows on it before.

James B



From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

I doubt it ever had the higher capacity Formatting
probably undid whatever fraudulent configuration was on the drive
to make it report higher numbers.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 2:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB
thumb drive

Hi all,

I recently formatted a cheap generic 128GB thumb
drive. Its original configuration was exfat with 128KB
allocation units and it had a capacity of 128GB.

After a quick format, the capacity changed to 32GB
and fat32.

I did a full format with Windows set to make the disk
exfat and that did work but the size is still only 32GB.

Its no big deal because this was a cheap free thumb
drive. However, I admit to being very curious.

Anyone know why the size of the thumb drive changed
after even a full format?

James B


**No one is totally worthless, they can always be
used as a bad example.


Re: Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi Carlos,
Curious. Does the web site have more of these command lines, than say, help.txt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:38:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

You can change the drive letter in Disk Management if you like.

The various commands are documented hundreds of places on the web. However, one useful resource is here.
http://www.ss64.com/nt/index.html
You can also generate a list of available commands with basic descriptions on the root of your C drive by typing
help>C:\help.txt
from the command prompt followed by Enter.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive


Well, I guess you might be a wee bit of a genius but, don�셳 you go getting a big head.

Yep, I got my 128GB thumb drive back. It now has its default exfat format with its default alocation size. And, my C drive is actually still there.

The thumb drive letter did bump up from F to G but, I guess that doesn�셳 matter.

I�셪l slightly revise these notes so I will better remember them.

Carlos, where can I find a list of all of these command lines that you use?

Many thanks for getting my drive back. And, especially for sharing your knowledge.

James B

From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

Yes that is correct. Each command has to be followed by Enter as you described.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

OK, starting with the clean command, how many different commands were there? Do I hit enter after each command?

For example:

1. clean followed by enter
2. create partition primary followed by enter
3. select partition 1 followed by enter
4. format fs=exFAT quick followed by enter
5. assign followed by enter

Carlos,Sorry for my lack of experience . I am however, learning more almost every day. .

Thanks,

James B



From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

Try repeating the procedure again. I have occasionally received an error when using the
clean
command for the first time to remove unusual partitioning.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

Well, I�셫 starting to wonder if dropping this thumb drive on a hard tile floor a couple days back may have damaged it.

I got through your directions up to clean.

Then I got an error message so I stopped.

The drive now shows 0 free space. 0 used space. Unknown drive size etc.

This turned out to be a PSY thumb drive. I have enough drives around that it isn�셳 important.

Thanks for your help,

James B



From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

Actually upon further consideration, I don't know what you used to write the ISO image to the flash drive or how the drive may have been partitioned by that utility, but yes it may in fact be a similar cause.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

No, the problem I was considering is generally associated with Linux distros which will change the file system on the disk. You can try the following, but make sure to backup any important files as this procedure will wipe all existing data from the drive.

1. Press Windows key+R to open the
"Run"
dialog and type
CMD
followed by Enter.

2. After the command prompt opens type
diskpart

3. When the diskpart utility loads type

list disk

4. Carefully listen to the information displayed. Review it with the JAWS cursor or equivalent if necessary. You have to figure out which disk number is assigned to the drive you want to use. The size column should give you an idea. Warning, be absolutely sure that you have the correct disk number before proceeding with the next steps or you could cause yourself serious problems. If you are not confident that you have the correct disk number, then I would strongly suggest that you not proceed.

5. Once you are sure that you have the correct disk number, just as an example type

select disk 1

1 is just an example and you should replace it with the disk number which was displayed for the drive in the previous step.

6. After it displays the message
"Disk 1 is now the selected disk",
type the following commands in order.

clean
create partition primary
select partition 1
format fs=exFAT quick
assign

7. Type
exit
to close the diskpart interface.

8. Finally, type
exit
again to close the command prompt window.

Now look in Computer/Explorer and see if the full 128 GB capacity is available.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

I don�셳 know if this is similar but I tried to use it for creating a Win10 Creator recovery bootable drive.

I had already tried 2 smaller thumb drives for the same purpose with no luck. All 3 attempts led to failure around 40% in to the process.

The other 2 drives were not affected.

James B



From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

Also, have you recently used the drive for booting a Linux distribution or anything similar?
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From: James Bentley
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Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

But, I�셶e had over 55GB of TV shows on it before.

James B



From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

I doubt it ever had the higher capacity Formatting probably undid whatever fraudulent configuration was on the drive to make it report higher numbers.

Gene
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From: James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 2:11 AM
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Subject: [TechTalk] Weird situation with a 128GB thumb drive

Hi all,

I recently formatted a cheap generic 128GB thumb drive. Its original configuration was exfat with 128KB allocation units and it had a capacity of 128GB.

After a quick format, the capacity changed to 32GB and fat32.

I did a full format with Windows set to make the disk exfat and that did work but the size is still only 32GB.

Its no big deal because this was a cheap free thumb drive. However, I admit to being very curious.

Anyone know why the size of the thumb drive changed after even a full format?

James B


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