On 7/2/2017 7:59 PM, janet gross wrote:

Carolyn,
Even though, all the research I been doing, and I've had some pretty good
ideas about which way I wanted to go, this privacy issue just makes me so
uncomfortable! I just ask myself, why should I go out an purchase a tablet,
and the whole time someone is going to be watching me when I'm on the
internet, texting, emailing, talking into the phone, etc. So I'm still not
for sure yet, but I have to admit, wow, what a education I'm getting!
Smile!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

We'll be interested to know what you end up with, Janet and how you like it.


Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 11:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Smart to weigh the pros and cons, this is good to know.
Priority you don't have to prove yourself to anyone, You go girl!
Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 8:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Smart to weigh the pros and cons. To me the priority is can I use it? If I
can, I want the easiest. I am not out to prove anything to anyone.

Another tablet option is the Amazon Kindle Fire. I like its screen and
speakers. My husband is using one. He just loves the thing. Its screen
reader is called Alexa, and I had to change in JAWS dictionary to make it
pronounce A l e x a correctly.

It is a sort of Android cousin, but, by no means pure Android. You might
know all of this, but in case you did not, I was telling you. Accessible
electronics sells them and sets them up to make them easier for blind people
to use by getting certain features downloaded that you would need.
They advertise quite often on the Blind Best list the best part is for buy,
sell, trade. So it is the blindbst@groups/ios, I believe.

The web site of the company is

laz@talkingmp3players.com

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Your husband is right, learn one thing at a time. Hang in there, and before
you know it, you will be an expert!
I wish you lots of luck, as for myself, I still haven't figured out which
tablet I will purchase yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Janet, I love the screen reader TalkBack. She sounds better than JAWS.

I have been learning one thing at a time. Yes, I have been on the net some,
and I'm getting there.

I have Gmail, and Joshua, who really knows this stuff, advised me to get
Aqua Mail. I probably will try it.

My husband said to learn one thing at a time and get proficient. That is
what I have been doing. When I first got it, I wondered if I'd really get
very far, but it is coming right along. It really would be cool if I could
have a couple of one-on-one classes, but that simply is not to be, so it's
up to me. However, HJoshua answered a million and a half questions, has been
so patient and nice about it. Like I told you, I have the list of commands
he sent me, and if you get one, I'd be happy to share them with you.

Yes, that is a good advantage of the keyboard, which is for a lot of typing.
I had to adjust to it. It is a Google keyboard. Below the Spacebar is a wide
area, which contains a mouse, that I can use some. The thing is that you
have to be sure not to rest the heels of your hands on it, or it does all
kind of crazy stuff. First, I thought it was me sitting in my recliner, but
I am able to do that, just have to be sure not to have any part of my hands
or wrists in the area below the Spacebar. If you get one, check it out real
well. The area does not go all the way across the bottom of the keyboard.

The fourth key from the left goes directly to Settings. To use Notifications
or Overview, for Notifications, you press
Control+Alt+N, and for Overview, Control+Alt+R. When you go
into Overview, it will have the last few screens, so, maybe you're on Gmail,
tab twice to Dismiss, press Alt-Enter.
Usually the next program, maybe Settings will appear, and you are right on
Dismiss, just Press Control+Alt+Enter.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 10:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Thank you so much for all this great information. You just about have me
sold! Smile! How about serfing the internet, how about the email program
on the tablet that would be gmail? Did you have a difficult time adjusting
to the screen reader talkback? I have an Apple iPhone though, but I'm
slowly am starting to feel about Apple phones, like I'm thinking about
Microsoft, and I'm not really all that happy with them. I was thinking
about buying a windows tablet, but I've decided I want to get away from
Microsoft, and now, I'm beginning to feel the same way about Apple. I don't
mine using a touch screen, but at the sametime, I wouldn't mind a keyboard
so if I have a lot of typing to do.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

It is a touch screen, but it has a Google Keyboard with it.
It is really nice, and the way the keyboard is made with it, it is really
like a little mini computer. It folds and makes a nice case.

You can add an SD card, I believe 128 gb. Joshua Kennedy will know.

My Wal-Mart did not have one, so I bought mine from Amazon.
I didn't think to check Wal-Mart online. But still, I paid $109; Joshua says
Wal-Mart has them for $80, I think $79.99.
It has Google TalkBack, and I have now adjusted her to the fastest speed.

If you use it without the keyboard, you need to power off the device, and if
you reattach the keyboard, you need to power off. It is flexible that way,
so you can use it either way. I really think that a person can get good
value from one.

I think that the future is leading to tablets and phones.
I'm not sure why one might have both. I got the tablet to learn to use the
Google platform so that I could get an Android phone, which is a more
expensive investment. I am glad that Joshua told us on the list about them.

If you get one, I'll send you the key strokes that Joshua sent me, because
that makes it way easier, if you know how to navigate. You have to use Alt
with Arrow and Enter and things to move about or enter. You use
Shift+Alt+Enter for Long Press, which is more or less a
menu. If you are
using the screen, you double tap and hold. Ana Garza in her book said when
you double tap, it is like a two-sylable word. My husband's last name is
Samples, so I think Samples, as I double tap, and I am opening things now.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carrolyn,
I am seriously considering buying a Android tablet. You sound like you are
quite happy with your RCA Galileo pro tablet. Can you add more space on the
tablet if need be? Is it a touch screen? I was trying to follow the thread
the list had going sometime ago, but my inbox just fel asleep, so I didn't
get all the info I would have liked to get.

Thank you in advance for any info.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

I don't have a virus program on my RCA Galileo Pro Android tablet, and I do
really like it. It works too. I had been negligent to check notifications.
After I had it for about a month, I did - TWENTY UPDATES! I let them run,
and you can bet I check notifications every day now.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates
LTD, Inc.
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 3:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

James wrote in path:

"please let me ask you just one more question? Do most Android user's
install antivirus on their devices?"

This one is a touchy subject! Personally, I don't use any virus checkers on
my Android toys! I've been with Android for nearly four and half years, I
have had NO INCIDENCES WITH VIRUSES to this very minute. I have installed
all manners of aps on my devices with no problems; it has not bothered me
whether or not the apps I installed were secured or otherwise. My toys keep
working flawlessly and no virus checkers of any kind.

If installing one makes you feel more comfortable, please feel free to do
so. Whilst there are several virus checkers on the Android platform, the
two common ones I have heard of are Avast and LookOut! Feel free to install
any or both of these and play with them before settling for the one you like
better.

Some virus checkers in Android land can be battery hogs, meaning that they
may drain your battery far faster than you want to see happen. I don't
believe that the two mentioned here at that way; but, again, I don't use a
virus checker in any of my Android toys! May be I am postponing the
inevitable, but I sure want to LEAVE well alone especially if it's working
as expected.

More questions? Please don't hesitate to keep sending them through. There
are a number of Androideans in the house who will step up to the plate if I
can't get to them fast enough! All the best sire.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

On 7/2/2017 7:59 PM, janet gross wrote:

Carolyn,
Even though, all the research I been doing, and I've had some pretty good
ideas about which way I wanted to go, this privacy issue just makes me so
uncomfortable! I just ask myself, why should I go out an purchase a tablet,
and the whole time someone is going to be watching me when I'm on the
internet, texting, emailing, talking into the phone, etc. So I'm still not
for sure yet, but I have to admit, wow, what a education I'm getting!
Smile!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

We'll be interested to know what you end up with, Janet and how you like it.


Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 11:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Smart to weigh the pros and cons, this is good to know.
Priority you don't have to prove yourself to anyone, You go girl!
Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 8:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Smart to weigh the pros and cons. To me the priority is can I use it? If I
can, I want the easiest. I am not out to prove anything to anyone.

Another tablet option is the Amazon Kindle Fire. I like its screen and
speakers. My husband is using one. He just loves the thing. Its screen
reader is called Alexa, and I had to change in JAWS dictionary to make it
pronounce A l e x a correctly.

It is a sort of Android cousin, but, by no means pure Android. You might
know all of this, but in case you did not, I was telling you. Accessible
electronics sells them and sets them up to make them easier for blind people
to use by getting certain features downloaded that you would need.
They advertise quite often on the Blind Best list the best part is for buy,
sell, trade. So it is the blindbst@groups/ios, I believe.

The web site of the company is

laz@talkingmp3players.com

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Your husband is right, learn one thing at a time. Hang in there, and before
you know it, you will be an expert!
I wish you lots of luck, as for myself, I still haven't figured out which
tablet I will purchase yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Janet, I love the screen reader TalkBack. She sounds better than JAWS.

I have been learning one thing at a time. Yes, I have been on the net some,
and I'm getting there.

I have Gmail, and Joshua, who really knows this stuff, advised me to get
Aqua Mail. I probably will try it.

My husband said to learn one thing at a time and get proficient. That is
what I have been doing. When I first got it, I wondered if I'd really get
very far, but it is coming right along. It really would be cool if I could
have a couple of one-on-one classes, but that simply is not to be, so it's
up to me. However, HJoshua answered a million and a half questions, has been
so patient and nice about it. Like I told you, I have the list of commands
he sent me, and if you get one, I'd be happy to share them with you.

Yes, that is a good advantage of the keyboard, which is for a lot of typing.
I had to adjust to it. It is a Google keyboard. Below the Spacebar is a wide
area, which contains a mouse, that I can use some. The thing is that you
have to be sure not to rest the heels of your hands on it, or it does all
kind of crazy stuff. First, I thought it was me sitting in my recliner, but
I am able to do that, just have to be sure not to have any part of my hands
or wrists in the area below the Spacebar. If you get one, check it out real
well. The area does not go all the way across the bottom of the keyboard.

The fourth key from the left goes directly to Settings. To use Notifications
or Overview, for Notifications, you press
Control+Alt+N, and for Overview, Control+Alt+R. When you go
into Overview, it will have the last few screens, so, maybe you're on Gmail,
tab twice to Dismiss, press Alt-Enter.
Usually the next program, maybe Settings will appear, and you are right on
Dismiss, just Press Control+Alt+Enter.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 10:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Thank you so much for all this great information. You just about have me
sold! Smile! How about serfing the internet, how about the email program
on the tablet that would be gmail? Did you have a difficult time adjusting
to the screen reader talkback? I have an Apple iPhone though, but I'm
slowly am starting to feel about Apple phones, like I'm thinking about
Microsoft, and I'm not really all that happy with them. I was thinking
about buying a windows tablet, but I've decided I want to get away from
Microsoft, and now, I'm beginning to feel the same way about Apple. I don't
mine using a touch screen, but at the sametime, I wouldn't mind a keyboard
so if I have a lot of typing to do.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

It is a touch screen, but it has a Google Keyboard with it.
It is really nice, and the way the keyboard is made with it, it is really
like a little mini computer. It folds and makes a nice case.

You can add an SD card, I believe 128 gb. Joshua Kennedy will know.

My Wal-Mart did not have one, so I bought mine from Amazon.
I didn't think to check Wal-Mart online. But still, I paid $109; Joshua says
Wal-Mart has them for $80, I think $79.99.
It has Google TalkBack, and I have now adjusted her to the fastest speed.

If you use it without the keyboard, you need to power off the device, and if
you reattach the keyboard, you need to power off. It is flexible that way,
so you can use it either way. I really think that a person can get good
value from one.

I think that the future is leading to tablets and phones.
I'm not sure why one might have both. I got the tablet to learn to use the
Google platform so that I could get an Android phone, which is a more
expensive investment. I am glad that Joshua told us on the list about them.

If you get one, I'll send you the key strokes that Joshua sent me, because
that makes it way easier, if you know how to navigate. You have to use Alt
with Arrow and Enter and things to move about or enter. You use
Shift+Alt+Enter for Long Press, which is more or less a
menu. If you are
using the screen, you double tap and hold. Ana Garza in her book said when
you double tap, it is like a two-sylable word. My husband's last name is
Samples, so I think Samples, as I double tap, and I am opening things now.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carrolyn,
I am seriously considering buying a Android tablet. You sound like you are
quite happy with your RCA Galileo pro tablet. Can you add more space on the
tablet if need be? Is it a touch screen? I was trying to follow the thread
the list had going sometime ago, but my inbox just fel asleep, so I didn't
get all the info I would have liked to get.

Thank you in advance for any info.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

I don't have a virus program on my RCA Galileo Pro Android tablet, and I do
really like it. It works too. I had been negligent to check notifications.
After I had it for about a month, I did - TWENTY UPDATES! I let them run,
and you can bet I check notifications every day now.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates
LTD, Inc.
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 3:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

James wrote in path:

"please let me ask you just one more question? Do most Android user's
install antivirus on their devices?"

This one is a touchy subject! Personally, I don't use any virus checkers on
my Android toys! I've been with Android for nearly four and half years, I
have had NO INCIDENCES WITH VIRUSES to this very minute. I have installed
all manners of aps on my devices with no problems; it has not bothered me
whether or not the apps I installed were secured or otherwise. My toys keep
working flawlessly and no virus checkers of any kind.

If installing one makes you feel more comfortable, please feel free to do
so. Whilst there are several virus checkers on the Android platform, the
two common ones I have heard of are Avast and LookOut! Feel free to install
any or both of these and play with them before settling for the one you like
better.

Some virus checkers in Android land can be battery hogs, meaning that they
may drain your battery far faster than you want to see happen. I don't
believe that the two mentioned here at that way; but, again, I don't use a
virus checker in any of my Android toys! May be I am postponing the
inevitable, but I sure want to LEAVE well alone especially if it's working
as expected.

More questions? Please don't hesitate to keep sending them through. There
are a number of Androideans in the house who will step up to the plate if I
can't get to them fast enough! All the best sire.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nancy Hill
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader Stream.

Carolyn, the same thing happened with my 2ne gen Stream, but
PTL, it was under warranty.


Good Luck!

Nancy


On 7/2/2017 5:39 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

Thanks, William. I pressed and held the power button for
about 30 seconds. It never beeped but once. Should I have
held it in longer? Then I tried again to just turn it on,
and it did as it has been doing, said Welcom to Victor
Stream and shut off. Thanks. I stopped and went right to

it,

really hopeful.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of William
Vandervest
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader

Stream.

try pressing and holding the power button untill it beeps
three times to reset it





timelord09@comcast.net

There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See

William and Leader Dog Lynerd
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 19:05
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader

Stream.

We removed and replaced the battery, did not solve the
problem. It will turn on but then turns right off.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn

Arnold

Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 5:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader

Stream.

Thanks. I can hardly wait to get through with the computer
to go try removing the battery. I will let you all know if
that fixed it.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 4:08 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader

Stream.

It could be because of the cuing, but who honestly knows.
Try removing the battery.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn

Arnold

Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 5:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader Stream.

When I turn on the Streem, it says welcome to Victor

Stream

then shuts off. I have 98 percent battery power, or had

100

percent three hours ago and read while cleaning kitchen.

Do you supposed it could have to do with me cuing books

this

afternoon?

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 7:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Carolyn,
Even though, all the research I been doing, and I've had
some pretty good ideas about which way I wanted to go, this
privacy issue just makes me so uncomfortable! I just ask
myself, why should I go out an purchase a tablet, and the
whole time someone is going to be watching me when I'm on
the internet, texting, emailing, talking into the phone,
etc. So I'm still not for sure yet, but I have to admit,
wow, what a education I'm getting!
Smile!
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

We'll be interested to know what you end up with, Janet and
how you like it.


Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 11:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Smart to weigh the pros and cons, this is good to know.
Priority you don't have to prove yourself to anyone, You go
girl!
Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 8:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Smart to weigh the pros and cons. To me the priority is can
I use it? If I
can, I want the easiest. I am not out to prove anything to
anyone.

Another tablet option is the Amazon Kindle Fire. I like its
screen and
speakers. My husband is using one. He just loves the thing.
Its screen
reader is called Alexa, and I had to change in JAWS
dictionary to make it
pronounce A l e x a correctly.

It is a sort of Android cousin, but, by no means pure
Android. You might
know all of this, but in case you did not, I was telling
you. Accessible
electronics sells them and sets them up to make them easier
for blind people
to use by getting certain features downloaded that you would
need.
They advertise quite often on the Blind Best list the best
part is for buy,
sell, trade. So it is the blindbst@groups/ios, I believe.

The web site of the company is

laz@talkingmp3players.com

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Your husband is right, learn one thing at a time. Hang in
there, and before
you know it, you will be an expert!
I wish you lots of luck, as for myself, I still haven't
figured out which
tablet I will purchase yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Janet, I love the screen reader TalkBack. She sounds better
than JAWS.

I have been learning one thing at a time. Yes, I have been
on the net some,
and I'm getting there.

I have Gmail, and Joshua, who really knows this stuff,
advised me to get
Aqua Mail. I probably will try it.

My husband said to learn one thing at a time and get
proficient. That is
what I have been doing. When I first got it, I wondered if
I'd really get
very far, but it is coming right along. It really would be
cool if I could
have a couple of one-on-one classes, but that simply is not
to be, so it's
up to me. However, HJoshua answered a million and a half
questions, has been
so patient and nice about it. Like I told you, I have the
list of commands
he sent me, and if you get one, I'd be happy to share them
with you.

Yes, that is a good advantage of the keyboard, which is for
a lot of typing.
I had to adjust to it. It is a Google keyboard. Below the
Spacebar is a wide
area, which contains a mouse, that I can use some. The thing
is that you
have to be sure not to rest the heels of your hands on it,
or it does all
kind of crazy stuff. First, I thought it was me sitting in
my recliner, but
I am able to do that, just have to be sure not to have any
part of my hands
or wrists in the area below the Spacebar. If you get one,
check it out real
well. The area does not go all the way across the bottom of
the keyboard.

The fourth key from the left goes directly to Settings. To
use Notifications
or Overview, for Notifications, you press
Control+Alt+N, and for Overview, Control+Alt+R. When you go
into Overview, it will have the last few screens, so, maybe
you're on Gmail,
tab twice to Dismiss, press Alt-Enter.
Usually the next program, maybe Settings will appear, and
you are right on
Dismiss, just Press Control+Alt+Enter.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 10:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Thank you so much for all this great information. You just
about have me
sold! Smile! How about serfing the internet, how about the
email program
on the tablet that would be gmail? Did you have a difficult
time adjusting
to the screen reader talkback? I have an Apple iPhone
though, but I'm
slowly am starting to feel about Apple phones, like I'm
thinking about
Microsoft, and I'm not really all that happy with them. I
was thinking
about buying a windows tablet, but I've decided I want to
get away from
Microsoft, and now, I'm beginning to feel the same way about
Apple. I don't
mine using a touch screen, but at the sametime, I wouldn't
mind a keyboard
so if I have a lot of typing to do.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

It is a touch screen, but it has a Google Keyboard with it.
It is really nice, and the way the keyboard is made with it,
it is really
like a little mini computer. It folds and makes a nice case.


You can add an SD card, I believe 128 gb. Joshua Kennedy
will know.

My Wal-Mart did not have one, so I bought mine from Amazon.
I didn't think to check Wal-Mart online. But still, I paid
$109; Joshua says
Wal-Mart has them for $80, I think $79.99.
It has Google TalkBack, and I have now adjusted her to the
fastest speed.

If you use it without the keyboard, you need to power off
the device, and if
you reattach the keyboard, you need to power off. It is
flexible that way,
so you can use it either way. I really think that a person
can get good
value from one.

I think that the future is leading to tablets and phones.
I'm not sure why one might have both. I got the tablet to
learn to use the
Google platform so that I could get an Android phone, which
is a more
expensive investment. I am glad that Joshua told us on the
list about them.

If you get one, I'll send you the key strokes that Joshua
sent me, because
that makes it way easier, if you know how to navigate. You
have to use Alt
with Arrow and Enter and things to move about or enter. You
use
Shift+Alt+Enter for Long Press, which is more or less a
menu. If you are
using the screen, you double tap and hold. Ana Garza in her
book said when
you double tap, it is like a two-sylable word. My husband's
last name is
Samples, so I think Samples, as I double tap, and I am
opening things now.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carrolyn,
I am seriously considering buying a Android tablet. You
sound like you are
quite happy with your RCA Galileo pro tablet. Can you add
more space on the
tablet if need be? Is it a touch screen? I was trying to
follow the thread
the list had going sometime ago, but my inbox just fel
asleep, so I didn't
get all the info I would have liked to get.

Thank you in advance for any info.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

I don't have a virus program on my RCA Galileo Pro Android
tablet, and I do
really like it. It works too. I had been negligent to check
notifications.
After I had it for about a month, I did - TWENTY UPDATES! I
let them run,
and you can bet I check notifications every day now.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun --
Victory Associates
LTD, Inc.
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 3:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

James wrote in path:

"please let me ask you just one more question? Do most
Android user's
install antivirus on their devices?"

This one is a touchy subject! Personally, I don't use any
virus checkers on
my Android toys! I've been with Android for nearly four and
half years, I
have had NO INCIDENCES WITH VIRUSES to this very minute. I
have installed
all manners of aps on my devices with no problems; it has
not bothered me
whether or not the apps I installed were secured or
otherwise. My toys keep
working flawlessly and no virus checkers of any kind.

If installing one makes you feel more comfortable, please
feel free to do
so. Whilst there are several virus checkers on the Android
platform, the
two common ones I have heard of are Avast and LookOut! Feel
free to install
any or both of these and play with them before settling for
the one you like
better.

Some virus checkers in Android land can be battery hogs,
meaning that they
may drain your battery far faster than you want to see
happen. I don't
believe that the two mentioned here at that way; but, again,
I don't use a
virus checker in any of my Android toys! May be I am
postponing the
inevitable, but I sure want to LEAVE well alone especially
if it's working
as expected.

More questions? Please don't hesitate to keep sending them
through. There
are a number of Androideans in the house who will step up to
the plate if I
can't get to them fast enough! All the best sire.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 7:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Carolyn,
Oh yeah, Siri can get pretty flaky at times, and you can
only imagine the things I have said to her, but now I know
what ever I say to Siri, that goes through to Apple! Can
you imagine! Smile! No privacy!
Janet
I

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Siri is bad about saying, "here's what I found on the Net
for you." One time when she did that, I thought she was
through and I mumbled, and I mean mumbled, "well, screw
you." She said, "I wouldn't talk to you like that."

My daughter-in-law laughed when I told her and said, "even
though it was a machine did you apologize?" I said that I
did, because I did.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 11:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Carolyn,
Siri gets a little flaky sometimes! Besides, I wanted to
just try ok Google just to see how she reacts! So far, Siri
is better.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 8:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Why do you need OK Google with the iPhone 6, when you have
Siri.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Hi Everyone,

I have an iPhone 6 with the latest update, and I downloaded
Ok Google from the app store, but I can only get Ok Google
to tell me the time of day. I went online and researched Ok
Google, and they say it is fine for an iOS phone, but can't
get it to tell me anything other than the time of day.

Any thoughts?



Thank you all in advance.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 7:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

Hi Carolyn,
I have been talking on my Magic Jack plus, and sometimes,
the phone will just die! Some people who have Magic Jack
told me that happens to them as well. Although, I still do
love my Magic Jack, but I really keep it for an emergency,
so if something was to happen to my iPhone, I would still
have a phone. Even though, some calls might drop, it is
still well worth it! I like when I'm on my Magic Jack, and
another call is trying to come through, Magic Jack actually
sends me an email, and I open the email, and I hear just
exactly what the message is saying in the person's own
voice!
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

Our neighbors back in Texas had it about 13 years ago. The
sound quality
from their end was terrible. I wonder if it has improved and
how well you
hear on your end of Magic Jack.

Best from,

Carolyn Arnold
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

the Magic Jack app is great. It allows me to be away from
home and know if
anyone is calling, and gives me the name or
number. I can answer the magic Jack call if I'm in a WiFi
area and connected since I don't have it set to use
cellular data, but I
would imagine I could. If you already have Magic Jack, the
app is just a
neat extention to allow you more flexibility, and you don't
need to use
cellular data.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 8:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.


Hi Everyone,

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to some way to
connect my Magic
Jack phone to a tablet? When I do purchase a tablet, I won't
be using any
internet service on my Windows 7 pc, but I would use
internet service on my
tablet.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 7:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Don,

Oh sure I know just what you mean about turning voice over off because when I tried listening to Ok Google, voice over just kept repeating exactly what I asked Ok Google, and I couldn’t hear Ok Google for voice over talking. I did disable voice over as well, and just turned it back on when I needed it again. I also have to turn voice over off sometimes in order to ask Siri a question, and then turn voice over back on when I’m finished with Siri! Loll!

Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 6:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.



One other thing, Janet. Sometimes, when using o k Google, I would temporarily disable voice over because of conflicts between the Google speech and voice over. I don't like doing this, but sometimes, for me at least, it is the only thing that works satisfactorily.



Don Roberts





On 7/2/2017 4:09 PM, janet gross wrote:

Don,

You are forgiven! Smile! You have the exact same phone as I have. I have been just wondering if the Ok Google app might work better on an Android as a pose to an iPhone, and I’m thinking it might.

Thank you for the clarification.

Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.



Janet, I am using an iPhone 6 running ios 10.3.2. In my previous message, I inadvertently said that o k Google gives better results at obscure info than Siri. What I meant to say is that o k google gives more substantive info than Alexa.



Don Roberts





On 7/2/2017 12:12 PM, janet gross wrote:

Don,

Can you tell me what phone you are using? I’m trying to find out if it makes a difference depending on which phone is being used. I am using an iPhone 6 with the latest update meaning 10.3.2. As far as Ok Google on my phone, she is lousy, and she can’t tell me anything other than the day or time!

Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 1:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.



As far as my unscientific experiments go, O K Google is far better than Siri when it comes to giving meaningful information, even obscure things. For example, because of the Black Socks scandal, I asked Google who won the 1919 World Series, and Google responded correctly. Siri didn't have a clue.



Don Roberts





On 7/2/2017 9:32 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:

I find that OK Google will often give a direct answer whereas SIRI will often say something like "I found something on the web, take a look". Then you have to look through the results from Bing and select one of those to find your answer.

OK Google can be much quicker.



________________________________________
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> ] on behalf of Carolyn Arnold [4carolyna@windstream.net <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net> ]
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Why do you need OK Google with the iPhone 6, when you have
Siri.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Hi Everyone,

I have an iPhone 6 with the latest update, and I downloaded
Ok Google from the app store, but I can only get Ok Google
to tell me the time of day. I went online and researched Ok
Google, and they say it is fine for an iOS phone, but can't
get it to tell me anything other than the time of day.

Any thoughts?



Thank you all in advance.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 6:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

the new Magic Jack Plus, I think that's what its called, now
plugs into a little power supply that plugs into the wall.
then a ethernet line plugs into it on one end, and a usb
type port on the other end plugs into that power supply, and
a phone jack gives your home phone a signal. I can't tell
the difference between my magic Jack and a regular landline
service.
They've come a long way, baby, as they say. To get
unlimited long distance, call waiting, caller ID for about
$35 a year is fantastic.I ported my landline number over,
only because my rural area had no Magic Jack number that
wasn't a long distance call from my community. I think
you'll like it, and for a couple of dollars a year, you get
911 service as well. The only drawback is without
electricity, you have no phone service. Yet, then, isn't
that what cell phones are for?
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

Our neighbors back in Texas had it about 13 years ago. The

sound

quality from their end was terrible. I wonder if it has

improved and

how well you hear on your end of Magic Jack.

Best from,

Carolyn Arnold
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

the Magic Jack app is great. It allows me to be away from

home and

know if anyone is calling, and gives me the name or
number. I can answer the magic Jack call if I'm in a

WiFi

area and connected since I don't have it set to use

cellular data,

but I would imagine I could. If you already have Magic

Jack, the app

is just a neat extention to allow you more flexibility,

and you don't

need to use cellular data.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 8:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.


Hi Everyone,

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to some way to

connect my Magic

Jack phone to a tablet? When I do purchase a tablet, I

won't be using

any internet service on my Windows 7 pc, but I would use

internet

service on my tablet.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 5:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

I'm sorry and certainly don't mean to be disrespectful, but how do you
honestly hope to compare a User's inability to turn off settings in
Windows10 to a crappy movie that you might decide wasn't worth
renting/purchasing? If you're saying that users might not wish to
install Windows10 because it's crappy, I might could agree, but I'm just
a whee bit confused.
Thank you for any insight or clarifications you might be willing to share.

On 7/2/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

I guess that is just how stuff is made these days. just like crappy movies that you rent for $2 or $3 watch it once and then say to yourself, I'm glad I only rented this movie and did not buy it because its not worth buying.



On 7/2/2017 12:20 PM, Carlos wrote:

LOL yes, except when it won't shut up no matter what settings you disable.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

no its just what they do and the times we live in. You just go into your OS of choice and shut the stuff off and uninstall what you don't want or need and will never use.



On 7/2/2017 12:07 PM, Carlos wrote:

So because other developers and operating systems do the same that makes it acceptable?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

even if you use ubuntu a popular Linux distro the ubuntu folks will track you unless you go in and shut it off. Well they used to anyways. Its just how life is today. You're tracked with your credit cards in the grocery store and other stuff. If I were a business or school, though all client machines would be locked down. If I had to use Ubuntu linux with their desktop to further secure the systems then that's what I'd do. Supposedly a Linux system is still more secure than windows10 is. And linux systems with business software would save money. Or at the very least I'd have the custom linux system boot up into a windows xp or windows7 virtual machine and then program it to every night refresh the virtual machine and save all personal files outside the vm in a locked down home folder on the linux server. then the client machines and their users would be able to run a windows in a sandbox even if its windows10 and still be safe because its running in a linux vm in vmware inside of linux being managed by a locked down linux OS.



On 7/2/2017 10:29 AM, Carlos wrote:

The point is that you're trying to paint a rosy picture of Windows 10 and downplaying the negative aspects. And if you read the entire quote, even using a local account does not stop certain types of tracking. Individual users can choose to be as concerned or unconcerned about this trend as they like, but don't pretend that it doesn't exist.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

if you still choose to pirate, just make a local offline account and go into your command line and use special commands to rip out the xBox apps and shut off the services, done and gone then no worries.

run command line stuff as administrator so windows gets out of your way and lets you do whatever you wish with command line prompts.



On 7/2/2017 10:11 AM, Carlos wrote:

This is correct, but incomplete. I refer you to the following article.
http://www.thespectrum.com/story/life/features/mesquite/2017/02/11/what-know-windows-10-privacy-settings/97783600/
I will quote part of the article below.

[begin quote/]
Software scanning

In Windows 10, Microsoft decided to add compatibility with Xbox games and the Xbox Live gaming service. However, that feature brought with it a new addition
to the Windows license agreement if you use a Microsoft Account or the Cortana smart assistant.

Basically, if you agree to the license, you agree to let Microsoft scan your computer for pirated software and unauthorized peripherals, and disable them
if found. While most readers of this site are not going to have pirated games or apps, it still means Microsoft is reserving the right to disable things
on your computer.

The jury is still out on whether Microsoft will actually conduct these scans. Consumers would not be too happy, and the ones who do pirate would just go
back to older versions of Windows.

Still, going the other way, Microsoft might in the future run scans and disable software or hardware it sees as a security threat. It would be in keeping
with its new policy on forced security updates. Who knows where it will draw the line?

If you want to avoid agreeing to this part of the license, you can switch your user account to a local account, as we talked about above, and disable Cortana.
As I said, that will halt most of the privacy problems, but there is still a big one.

It just will not stop

If you go through Windows 10 and turn off every feature that is a privacy concern and then switch to a local account, you would assume that Windows 10
would not have any need to communicate with Microsoft. It turns out that is not the case.

Peter Bright over at ArsTechnica took an in-depth look at what information a locked-down Windows 10 sends and receives from Microsoft, and it is still
a lot. Some of it is harmless, like checking to see whether your internet connection is using IPv4 or IPv6. Also, even if you have customized your Start
menu to remove the Live Tiles, Windows still pulls occasional updates for them.

However, some of the traffic is a bit more worrisome. For example, even if you turn off searching the internet from the Start menu, it still sends information
to Bing when you run a local search. Also, information related to Cortana is passed back and forth, even if Cortana is disabled.

Not only that, but the traffic contains a machine identifier that is persistent across sessions. In other words, Microsoft could know what your machine
is searching for, even if it technically is not linked to your name or Microsoft account.

Microsoft's response to ArsTechnica in the matter is, "As part of delivering Windows 10 as a service, updates may be delivered to provide ongoing new features
to Bing search, such as new visual layouts, styles and search code. No query or search usage data is sent to Microsoft, in accordance with the customer's
chosen privacy settings. This also applies to searching offline for items such as apps, files and settings on the device."

That is somewhat comforting, but still, there is more. If you have decided to use a local account and disable OneDrive, Microsoft's cloud storage service,
Windows is still sending data to a Microsoft server linked to OneDrive. What that data is no one knows, but it is impossible to stop.
[/end quote]
----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

ok here is where people get confused. microsoft does *not* have the ability to remove applications off your computers. Microsoft *does* have the ability to remove update and change the special protected sandboxed apps that you install from the microsoft windows touch screen app store. Google can do this also. so can apple with your iPhones. If you make an offline private account in windows10 then the special app store really is not very useable for you. Furthermore the best way to use the special touch screen app store and microsoft's touch apps is to use narrator for windows10. NVDA is getting there, but narrator works best with the touch apps so it seems. And Narrator's scan mode works really nice in microsoft edge. Narrator has about 140 or so screen reading commands that come with it by the way in windows10.



On 7/2/2017 12:43 AM, janet gross wrote:

Hi,
Yes, I fully agree. That's why I say I don't know which way to go with this tablet decision. Yes privacy is quite important to me. Not that I have anything to hide, but I just don't think it is any of Microsoft's business what I am doing on my pc. As far as Microsoft having the ability to remove an application, and they have the ability to force downloads onto my pc, just stincks!
For an example, Microsoft is still sending me updates for Outlook 2007, and I now have Microsoft Outlook 2010, so if this was in Windows 10, Microsoft would be forcing downloads for Outlook 2007, and that is wrong, but if I feel if I'm at the mercy of Microsoft, I would have to download these unnecessary downloads on to my pc even though, I don't need them! This makes no sense to me.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 9:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

hi,
if concerned by privacy, it's pointless to come from apple to windows, it's just as bad, if not worse. screen reader support, however, changing to NVDA, especially now that we have 2 screen readers could pay off in the long term.

On 02/07/17 12:45 AM, janet gross wrote:

Hi Olusegun,
Thank you thank you for all this great information! I'm just so tired and
discouraged and disappointed with Microsoft, Windows, Outlook, JAWS. I
already paid FS for the MSA agreement for the next 2 versions of JAWS,
so after next year, I just won't pay the MSA. FS is just to
exspensive, and if I can get another screen reader that can do most of
the samethings as JAWS, so be it! I am seriously considering
learning and using NVDA as my screen reader. I thought about
downloading Windows 10 on to my Windows 7 64 bit pc, but after hearing
so much about how Microsoft has the ability to remove an application
from my own pc, and after hearing so much about how Windows
10 will actually force their updates right on to my own pc, and I
understand there are work arounds for these issues as well, but if
they can remove an application, and force updates, where is my privacy
and rights as a consumer? Oh yeah, I do get to pay for the pc though!
Smile! These are just some reasons I am considering leaving
Microsoft. I was considering purchasing a Android tablet, because
wow, now, I'm a little disappointed with Apple, and the reason I say this is because Apple is very exspensive.
Besides, I know when I send a text message from my iPhone, what ever I
say in that text is going to go across Apple, and Apple says this is
because this is there way of trying to improve Siri. So, I say again,
where is my privacy and rights.
I'm still not for sure which tablet I'm going to purchase yet though.
I want to research all I can before purchasing any tablet, although, I
was considering an iPad as well, but then I'm still with Apple!
Just my personal opinion.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 12:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Janet, I am slowly KICKING Windows and its associated screen readers
down the drains and gutters; I am electing to switch to Android full-time.

As has been suggested, if you feel drawn to Android, the Galileo Pro
from Walmart is indeed a good buy. It runs on Marshmallow and you can
use an SD card to expand its storage space.

I believe Josh only referenced the Windows tablet from RCA just in
case you might be interested in taking a hard look at one.

Curiously, since you seem to be more familiar with the iOS platform,
how come you're not electing to purchase an iOS-based tablet? My
curiosity notwithstanding, having something close to the best of both
worlds might not be a bad idea! For me, I tend to STICK with what I
have tested and found to be as reliable as it gets. I didn't vegetate
towards iOS because I dislike overtly proprietary stuff and I love to
explore, it's my way of learning how to THINK outside the box!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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On 7/2/2017 5:39 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

Thanks, William. I pressed and held the power button for
about 30 seconds. It never beeped but once. Should I have
held it in longer? Then I tried again to just turn it on,
and it did as it has been doing, said Welcom to Victor
Stream and shut off. Thanks. I stopped and went right to it,
really hopeful.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of William
Vandervest
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader Stream.

try pressing and holding the power button untill it beeps
three times to reset it





timelord09@comcast.net

There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See

William and Leader Dog Lynerd
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 19:05
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader Stream.

We removed and replaced the battery, did not solve the
problem. It will turn on but then turns right off.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 5:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader Stream.

Thanks. I can hardly wait to get through with the computer
to go try removing the battery. I will let you all know if
that fixed it.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 4:08 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader Stream.

It could be because of the cuing, but who honestly knows.
Try removing the battery.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 5:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Need help with Victor Reader Stream.

When I turn on the Streem, it says welcome to Victor Stream
then shuts off. I have 98 percent battery power, or had 100
percent three hours ago and read while cleaning kitchen.

Do you supposed it could have to do with me cuing books this
afternoon?

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

We'll be interested to know what you end up with, Janet and how you like it.


Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 11:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Smart to weigh the pros and cons, this is good to know.
Priority you don't have to prove yourself to anyone, You go girl!
Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 8:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Smart to weigh the pros and cons. To me the priority is can I use it? If I
can, I want the easiest. I am not out to prove anything to anyone.

Another tablet option is the Amazon Kindle Fire. I like its screen and
speakers. My husband is using one. He just loves the thing. Its screen
reader is called Alexa, and I had to change in JAWS dictionary to make it
pronounce A l e x a correctly.

It is a sort of Android cousin, but, by no means pure Android. You might
know all of this, but in case you did not, I was telling you. Accessible
electronics sells them and sets them up to make them easier for blind people
to use by getting certain features downloaded that you would need.
They advertise quite often on the Blind Best list the best part is for buy,
sell, trade. So it is the blindbst@groups/ios, I believe.

The web site of the company is

laz@talkingmp3players.com

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Your husband is right, learn one thing at a time. Hang in there, and before
you know it, you will be an expert!
I wish you lots of luck, as for myself, I still haven't figured out which
tablet I will purchase yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Janet, I love the screen reader TalkBack. She sounds better than JAWS.

I have been learning one thing at a time. Yes, I have been on the net some,
and I'm getting there.

I have Gmail, and Joshua, who really knows this stuff, advised me to get
Aqua Mail. I probably will try it.

My husband said to learn one thing at a time and get proficient. That is
what I have been doing. When I first got it, I wondered if I'd really get
very far, but it is coming right along. It really would be cool if I could
have a couple of one-on-one classes, but that simply is not to be, so it's
up to me. However, HJoshua answered a million and a half questions, has been
so patient and nice about it. Like I told you, I have the list of commands
he sent me, and if you get one, I'd be happy to share them with you.

Yes, that is a good advantage of the keyboard, which is for a lot of typing.
I had to adjust to it. It is a Google keyboard. Below the Spacebar is a wide
area, which contains a mouse, that I can use some. The thing is that you
have to be sure not to rest the heels of your hands on it, or it does all
kind of crazy stuff. First, I thought it was me sitting in my recliner, but
I am able to do that, just have to be sure not to have any part of my hands
or wrists in the area below the Spacebar. If you get one, check it out real
well. The area does not go all the way across the bottom of the keyboard.

The fourth key from the left goes directly to Settings. To use Notifications
or Overview, for Notifications, you press
Control+Alt+N, and for Overview, Control+Alt+R. When you go
into Overview, it will have the last few screens, so, maybe you're on Gmail,
tab twice to Dismiss, press Alt-Enter.
Usually the next program, maybe Settings will appear, and you are right on
Dismiss, just Press Control+Alt+Enter.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 10:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carolyn,
Thank you so much for all this great information. You just about have me
sold! Smile! How about serfing the internet, how about the email program
on the tablet that would be gmail? Did you have a difficult time adjusting
to the screen reader talkback? I have an Apple iPhone though, but I'm
slowly am starting to feel about Apple phones, like I'm thinking about
Microsoft, and I'm not really all that happy with them. I was thinking
about buying a windows tablet, but I've decided I want to get away from
Microsoft, and now, I'm beginning to feel the same way about Apple. I don't
mine using a touch screen, but at the sametime, I wouldn't mind a keyboard
so if I have a lot of typing to do.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

It is a touch screen, but it has a Google Keyboard with it.
It is really nice, and the way the keyboard is made with it, it is really
like a little mini computer. It folds and makes a nice case.

You can add an SD card, I believe 128 gb. Joshua Kennedy will know.

My Wal-Mart did not have one, so I bought mine from Amazon.
I didn't think to check Wal-Mart online. But still, I paid $109; Joshua says
Wal-Mart has them for $80, I think $79.99.
It has Google TalkBack, and I have now adjusted her to the fastest speed.

If you use it without the keyboard, you need to power off the device, and if
you reattach the keyboard, you need to power off. It is flexible that way,
so you can use it either way. I really think that a person can get good
value from one.

I think that the future is leading to tablets and phones.
I'm not sure why one might have both. I got the tablet to learn to use the
Google platform so that I could get an Android phone, which is a more
expensive investment. I am glad that Joshua told us on the list about them.

If you get one, I'll send you the key strokes that Joshua sent me, because
that makes it way easier, if you know how to navigate. You have to use Alt
with Arrow and Enter and things to move about or enter. You use
Shift+Alt+Enter for Long Press, which is more or less a
menu. If you are
using the screen, you double tap and hold. Ana Garza in her book said when
you double tap, it is like a two-sylable word. My husband's last name is
Samples, so I think Samples, as I double tap, and I am opening things now.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

Hi Carrolyn,
I am seriously considering buying a Android tablet. You sound like you are
quite happy with your RCA Galileo pro tablet. Can you add more space on the
tablet if need be? Is it a touch screen? I was trying to follow the thread
the list had going sometime ago, but my inbox just fel asleep, so I didn't
get all the info I would have liked to get.

Thank you in advance for any info.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

I don't have a virus program on my RCA Galileo Pro Android tablet, and I do
really like it. It works too. I had been negligent to check notifications.
After I had it for about a month, I did - TWENTY UPDATES! I let them run,
and you can bet I check notifications every day now.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates
LTD, Inc.
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 3:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 2 Android questions

James wrote in path:

"please let me ask you just one more question? Do most Android user's
install antivirus on their devices?"

This one is a touchy subject! Personally, I don't use any virus checkers on
my Android toys! I've been with Android for nearly four and half years, I
have had NO INCIDENCES WITH VIRUSES to this very minute. I have installed
all manners of aps on my devices with no problems; it has not bothered me
whether or not the apps I installed were secured or otherwise. My toys keep
working flawlessly and no virus checkers of any kind.

If installing one makes you feel more comfortable, please feel free to do
so. Whilst there are several virus checkers on the Android platform, the
two common ones I have heard of are Avast and LookOut! Feel free to install
any or both of these and play with them before settling for the one you like
better.

Some virus checkers in Android land can be battery hogs, meaning that they
may drain your battery far faster than you want to see happen. I don't
believe that the two mentioned here at that way; but, again, I don't use a
virus checker in any of my Android toys! May be I am postponing the
inevitable, but I sure want to LEAVE well alone especially if it's working
as expected.

More questions? Please don't hesitate to keep sending them through. There
are a number of Androideans in the house who will step up to the plate if I
can't get to them fast enough! All the best sire.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Siri is bad about saying, "here's what I found on the Net for you." One time
when she did that, I thought she was through and I mumbled, and I mean
mumbled, "well, screw you." She said, "I wouldn't talk to you like that."

My daughter-in-law laughed when I told her and said, "even though it was a
machine did you apologize?" I said that I did, because I did.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 11:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Carolyn,
Siri gets a little flaky sometimes! Besides, I wanted to just try ok Google
just to see how she reacts! So far, Siri is better.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 8:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Why do you need OK Google with the iPhone 6, when you have Siri.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Hi Everyone,

I have an iPhone 6 with the latest update, and I downloaded Ok Google from
the app store, but I can only get Ok Google to tell me the time of day. I
went online and researched Ok Google, and they say it is fine for an iOS
phone, but can't get it to tell me anything other than the time of day.

Any thoughts?



Thank you all in advance.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

Our neighbors back in Texas had it about 13 years ago. The sound quality
from their end was terrible. I wonder if it has improved and how well you
hear on your end of Magic Jack.

Best from,

Carolyn Arnold
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

the Magic Jack app is great. It allows me to be away from home and know if
anyone is calling, and gives me the name or
number. I can answer the magic Jack call if I'm in a WiFi
area and connected since I don't have it set to use cellular data, but I
would imagine I could. If you already have Magic Jack, the app is just a
neat extention to allow you more flexibility, and you don't need to use
cellular data.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 8:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.


Hi Everyone,

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to some way to connect my Magic
Jack phone to a tablet? When I do purchase a tablet, I won't be using any
internet service on my Windows 7 pc, but I would use internet service on my
tablet.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

 

Janet, I am using an iPhone 6 running ios 10.3.2.  In my previous message, I inadvertently said that o k Google gives better results at obscure info than Siri.  What I meant to say is that o k google gives more substantive info than Alexa.

 

Don Roberts

 

 

Don,

Can you tell me what phone you are using? I’m trying to find out if it makes a difference depending on which phone is being used.  I am using an iPhone 6 with the latest update meaning 10.3.2.  As far as Ok Google on my phone, she is lousy, and she can’t tell me anything other than the day or time! 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 1:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

 

As far as my unscientific experiments go, O K Google is far better than Siri when it comes to giving meaningful information, even obscure things.  For example, because of the Black Socks scandal, I asked Google who won the 1919 World Series, and Google responded correctly.  Siri didn't have a clue.

 

Don Roberts

 

 

On 7/2/2017 9:32 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:

I find that OK Google will often give a direct answer whereas SIRI will often say something like "I found something on the web, take a look".  Then you have to look through the results from Bing and select one of those to find your answer.

OK Google can be much quicker.

________________________________________

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [main@TechTalk.groups.io] on behalf of Carolyn Arnold [4carolyna@...]

Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:29 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Why do you need OK Google with the iPhone 6, when you have

Siri.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io

[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross

Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:32 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Hi Everyone,

I have an iPhone 6 with the latest update, and I downloaded

Ok Google from the app store, but I can only get Ok Google

to tell me the time of day.  I went online and researched Ok

Google, and they say it is fine for an iOS phone, but can't

get it to tell me anything other than the time of day.

Any thoughts?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 6:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

 

One other thing, Janet.  Sometimes, when using o k Google, I would temporarily disable voice over because of conflicts between the Google speech and voice over.  I don't like doing this, but sometimes, for me at least, it is the only thing that works satisfactorily.

 

Don Roberts

 

 

Don,

You are forgiven!  Smile!  You have the exact same phone as I have.  I have been just wondering if the Ok Google app might work better on an Android as a pose to an iPhone, and I’m thinking it might. 

Thank you for the clarification. 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

 

Janet, I am using an iPhone 6 running ios 10.3.2.  In my previous message, I inadvertently said that o k Google gives better results at obscure info than Siri.  What I meant to say is that o k google gives more substantive info than Alexa.

 

Don Roberts

 

 

On 7/2/2017 12:12 PM, janet gross wrote:

Don,

Can you tell me what phone you are using? I’m trying to find out if it makes a difference depending on which phone is being used.  I am using an iPhone 6 with the latest update meaning 10.3.2.  As far as Ok Google on my phone, she is lousy, and she can’t tell me anything other than the day or time! 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 1:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

 

As far as my unscientific experiments go, O K Google is far better than Siri when it comes to giving meaningful information, even obscure things.  For example, because of the Black Socks scandal, I asked Google who won the 1919 World Series, and Google responded correctly.  Siri didn't have a clue.

 

Don Roberts

 

 

On 7/2/2017 9:32 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:

I find that OK Google will often give a direct answer whereas SIRI will often say something like "I found something on the web, take a look".  Then you have to look through the results from Bing and select one of those to find your answer.

OK Google can be much quicker.

________________________________________

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [main@TechTalk.groups.io] on behalf of Carolyn Arnold [4carolyna@...]

Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:29 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Why do you need OK Google with the iPhone 6, when you have

Siri.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io

[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross

Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:32 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Hi Everyone,

I have an iPhone 6 with the latest update, and I downloaded

Ok Google from the app store, but I can only get Ok Google

to tell me the time of day.  I went online and researched Ok

Google, and they say it is fine for an iOS phone, but can't

get it to tell me anything other than the time of day.

Any thoughts?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike Thomas
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 5:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

the new Magic Jack Plus, I think that's what its called, now plugs into a
little power supply that plugs into the wall. then a ethernet line plugs
into it on one end, and a usb type port on the other end plugs into that
power supply, and a phone jack gives your home phone a signal. I can't tell
the difference between my magic Jack and a regular landline service.
They've come a long way, baby, as they say. To get unlimited long distance,
call waiting, caller ID for about $35 a year is fantastic.I ported my
landline number over, only because my rural area had no Magic Jack number
that wasn't a long distance call from my community. I think you'll like it,
and for a couple of dollars a year, you get 911 service as well. The only
drawback is without electricity, you have no phone service. Yet, then,
isn't that what cell phones are for?
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

Our neighbors back in Texas had it about 13 years ago. The sound
quality from their end was terrible. I wonder if it has improved and
how well you hear on your end of Magic Jack.

Best from,

Carolyn Arnold
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.

the Magic Jack app is great. It allows me to be away from home and
know if anyone is calling, and gives me the name or
number. I can answer the magic Jack call if I'm in a WiFi
area and connected since I don't have it set to use cellular data,
but I would imagine I could. If you already have Magic Jack, the app
is just a neat extention to allow you more flexibility, and you don't
need to use cellular data.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 8:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Magic Jack On An iOS iPhone.


Hi Everyone,

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to some way to connect my Magic
Jack phone to a tablet? When I do purchase a tablet, I won't be using
any internet service on my Windows 7 pc, but I would use internet
service on my tablet.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Janet

Don,

You are forgiven!  Smile!  You have the exact same phone as I have.  I have been just wondering if the Ok Google app might work better on an Android as a pose to an iPhone, and I’m thinking it might. 

Thank you for the clarification. 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

 

Janet, I am using an iPhone 6 running ios 10.3.2.  In my previous message, I inadvertently said that o k Google gives better results at obscure info than Siri.  What I meant to say is that o k google gives more substantive info than Alexa.

 

Don Roberts

 

 

On 7/2/2017 12:12 PM, janet gross wrote:

Don,

Can you tell me what phone you are using? I’m trying to find out if it makes a difference depending on which phone is being used.  I am using an iPhone 6 with the latest update meaning 10.3.2.  As far as Ok Google on my phone, she is lousy, and she can’t tell me anything other than the day or time! 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 1:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

 

As far as my unscientific experiments go, O K Google is far better than Siri when it comes to giving meaningful information, even obscure things.  For example, because of the Black Socks scandal, I asked Google who won the 1919 World Series, and Google responded correctly.  Siri didn't have a clue.

 

Don Roberts

 

 

On 7/2/2017 9:32 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:

I find that OK Google will often give a direct answer whereas SIRI will often say something like "I found something on the web, take a look".  Then you have to look through the results from Bing and select one of those to find your answer.

OK Google can be much quicker.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [main@TechTalk.groups.io] on behalf of Carolyn Arnold [4carolyna@...]

Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:29 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Why do you need OK Google with the iPhone 6, when you have

Siri.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io

[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross

Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:32 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Hi Everyone,

I have an iPhone 6 with the latest update, and I downloaded

Ok Google from the app store, but I can only get Ok Google

to tell me the time of day.  I went online and researched Ok

Google, and they say it is fine for an iOS phone, but can't

get it to tell me anything other than the time of day.

Any thoughts?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 5:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

I have Google Search on my tablet, and it works. Of course, it is an
Android.

Best from,

Carolyn Arnold
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 1:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Hi Troy,
That is a good question. The only way I could get Ok Google to respond as
little as she did, was to open the Ok Google app, once your in the app,
swipe left to right on the top right of the screen, and you will hear
voiceover say; voice search double tap to search speak after the beep. I
just downloaded Ok Google yesterday. I am thinking the samething, did I
download the wrong Google because in the app store it didn't say Ok Google,
but instead it said Google search, and after it finished downloading it is
called Google. Ok Google works lousy on my iPhone. Which Ok Google did you
download? I downloaded Google Search as that is what it is called from the
app store.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

To use okay google do you have to press the home button before saying okay
google or do you just have to open the app and say it? I installed google
on my phone a while back but just saying okay google with the app open
didn't do anything. I may not have installed the right app though.

Troy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND"
<pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.


I find that OK Google will often give a direct answer whereas SIRI will
often say something like "I found something on the web, take a look". Then
you have to look through the results from Bing and select one of those to
find your answer.

OK Google can be much quicker.



________________________________________
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [main@TechTalk.groups.io] on behalf of Carolyn

Arnold [4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Why do you need OK Google with the iPhone 6, when you have Siri.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Ok Google on an iPhone.

Hi Everyone,

I have an iPhone 6 with the latest update, and I downloaded Ok Google from
the app store, but I can only get Ok Google to tell me the time of day. I
went online and researched Ok Google, and they say it is fine for an iOS
phone, but can't get it to tell me anything other than the time of day.

Any thoughts?



Thank you all in advance.

Janet