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Re: OT: Looking for Old Time Radio

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi. Write me privately to tell me what shows you particularly want and I'll dig around my own archives to see what I can offer. Also tell me your prefered mode of delivery. Cheers!

On 4/8/2017 5:49 AM, Rob wrote:

While I know I can get most of what I'm after from archive.org I do not care much for that site. It is badly organized and not very streamlined. I'd be spending most of my time trying to figure the site out rather than getting content.
I'm looking to reclaim my old time radio (OTR) holdings after a hard drive failure. If anybody has some they would like to share, or a resource from where i can download it, I'd be most grateful. Most of this stuff is in the public domain, hence its availability on archive.org. If I have to go there I will, but I'd prefer more direct links.


Re: NVDA Question

Quentin Christensen
 

Which synthesizer are you using?  NVDA just inserts a space between each character when spelling, so that adds a slight pause between characters, but shouldn't slow it down enormously.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 5:43 AM, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:
Using a text editer like notepad on my win10 computer, if I tell NVDA to spell a word, the letters come very slowly; maybe two characters per second. 
That's not at all like the reading speed that I have set.  Wonder if there's something that will speedd it up a bit?  Thanks.
Howard




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Re: cloning a hard drive?

Norman
 

Hi.

I here you.

However, i personally would want to know of any an options that are doable, considered accessible or not.

With that said, i'm probably not well known enough on this list for people to know my tech skills offhand.


JMT.

On 8/3/2017 8:03 AM, Carlos wrote:
People operate at many different levels on the list so accessibility is most certainly a concern and worth discussing.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman" <lists@thekingstech.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cloning a hard drive?


Hi.

I had actually played with this one a little.

I didn't get far enough to actually try it though.

BTW, Don't worry to much about what people consider accessible or not with me. I just finished my cloaning process in a manner that most people wouldn't consider accessible either. What i finally ended up doing was boot a ubuntu 14 live cd and use the dd command referenced earlier.

BTW, thanks for that. I new about dd but for some reason didn't think about in the aspect of cloaning drives. It worked perfectly.

As for the extra space, i'll just expand my volume, no big deal.


Thanks again.



On 8/2/2017 6:24 PM, Carlos wrote:
Yes I know, but I didn't recommend it because it would not be considered accessible by most people's standards.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cloning a hard drive?


I use macrium reflect to cloan hard drives.



On 8/2/2017 1:13 PM, Carlos wrote:
Yes it works well enough. I have used it several times in the past. Unfortunately, I am receiving the same message as Norman when attempting to install the free version on the website.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrin via Groups.Io" <dpf.1996=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cloning a hard drive?


This is new to me, but I visited:

http://www.xxclone.com

and found a link for a free for personal usage version of the program. I don't believe I have ever heard of it before, but it does seem interesting. Since I have no reason to doubt what people say it is capable of doing, it is also going in to my virtual tool box so to speak.



-----Original Message----- From: Norman
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 12:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cloaning a hard drive?

Hi.

And yet, when i download from here

http://www.xxclone.com/idwnload.htm


I get the following message.

XXCLONE: You have a very old copy
This program's design life has expired. graphic 475 If you
downloaded it from a third party
download site (such as download.com),
you should visit our web site for the
latest version of XXCLONE Freeware.
http://www.xxclone.com
OK



Thoughts/other recommendations?



On 8/2/2017 8:07 AM, Carlos wrote:
Um, XXCLONE was last update on January 19th 2017.
http://www.xxclone.com/
----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman" <lists@thekingstech.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:01 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] cloaning a hard drive?


Hello all.

A friend wants me to put a new ssd into his laptop. I'm somewhat new at cloaning disks. I have a dock that can do it if the receiving disk is larger than the old one but don't think this will be the case here. Looking at software options, xxcloan appears to be old unless someone has a link for a current version?

Anyone have suggestions foer something else? Trial versions are good enough since this is a one time op.


Thanks.













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Re: cloning a hard drive?

Norman
 

Hi.

You're not kidding! don't try this unless you know linux and how to boot to a live cd.

With that being said, it looks doable if you do the partitioning properly. Fortunately i didn't have to resort to that. That would have been a pain!

On 8/3/2017 8:08 AM, Carlos wrote:
Also, read the following thread for an explanation as to why using DD to clone from a larger drive to a smaller one can be dangerous.
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/161859/can-dd-be-used-to-clone-to-a-smaller-hdd-knowing-that-partitions-will-need-ed
Some of these issues can be worked around, but it is not a method I would recommend for the average user.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cloning a hard drive?


People operate at many different levels on the list so accessibility is most certainly a concern and worth discussing.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman" <lists@thekingstech.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cloning a hard drive?


Hi.

I had actually played with this one a little.

I didn't get far enough to actually try it though.

BTW, Don't worry to much about what people consider accessible or not with me. I just finished my cloaning process in a manner that most people wouldn't consider accessible either. What i finally ended up doing was boot a ubuntu 14 live cd and use the dd command referenced earlier.

BTW, thanks for that. I new about dd but for some reason didn't think about in the aspect of cloaning drives. It worked perfectly.

As for the extra space, i'll just expand my volume, no big deal.


Thanks again.



On 8/2/2017 6:24 PM, Carlos wrote:
Yes I know, but I didn't recommend it because it would not be considered accessible by most people's standards.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cloning a hard drive?


I use macrium reflect to cloan hard drives.



On 8/2/2017 1:13 PM, Carlos wrote:
Yes it works well enough. I have used it several times in the past. Unfortunately, I am receiving the same message as Norman when attempting to install the free version on the website.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrin via Groups.Io" <dpf.1996=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cloning a hard drive?


This is new to me, but I visited:

http://www.xxclone.com

and found a link for a free for personal usage version of the program. I don't believe I have ever heard of it before, but it does seem interesting. Since I have no reason to doubt what people say it is capable of doing, it is also going in to my virtual tool box so to speak.



-----Original Message----- From: Norman
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 12:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cloaning a hard drive?

Hi.

And yet, when i download from here

http://www.xxclone.com/idwnload.htm


I get the following message.

XXCLONE: You have a very old copy
This program's design life has expired. graphic 475 If you
downloaded it from a third party
download site (such as download.com),
you should visit our web site for the
latest version of XXCLONE Freeware.
http://www.xxclone.com
OK



Thoughts/other recommendations?



On 8/2/2017 8:07 AM, Carlos wrote:
Um, XXCLONE was last update on January 19th 2017.
http://www.xxclone.com/
----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman" <lists@thekingstech.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:01 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] cloaning a hard drive?


Hello all.

A friend wants me to put a new ssd into his laptop. I'm somewhat new at cloaning disks. I have a dock that can do it if the receiving disk is larger than the old one but don't think this will be the case here. Looking at software options, xxcloan appears to be old unless someone has a link for a current version?

Anyone have suggestions foer something else? Trial versions are good enough since this is a one time op.


Thanks.













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Re: Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

Norman
 

Hi.

I'm personally not a big amd fan. This is based on a 2011 era toshiba laptop i had with a medium range amd chip. I have to admit, they are getting better though. The rizen chips sure got great reviews.



On 8/3/2017 3:51 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

this laptop uses lots of generic hardware. windows automatically recognized all AMD drivers so had no issues at all. if I and when I buy another computer it will for sure be one with AMD hardware in it. When I get my son a new laptop I'm getting him one with AMD stuff inside but AMD a12 and better radeon graphics for the games he likes. Even with a traditional spinning hard drive when I touch the side of this computer even when the CPU is maxed out you can't even feel that its running. It runs as or nearly as cool as a cell phone or as cool as my android tablet. But the 9 year old laptop my sighted son is using now that thing gets hot. Its using intel chips. I had an early 2007 late 2006 AMD laptop before I sold it and it ran a bit warm, but not as warm as the old hp elitebook 6930p intel dual core 2.5ghz my son is using. I upgraded that laptop with an ssd and windows10. Did as much as I could for him. But he really needs a new machine and he's getting one in a few months for christmas. my son is 10 years old and in fifth grade.



On 8/3/2017 3:35 PM, Gene wrote:
I believe refresh the PC removes all drivers supplied by the manufacturer.  I suspect that, if proprietary utilities are used to adjust certain things regarding computer operation, you may lose those and I'm not sure if the Windows ones wil work.  I wouldn't use refresh the pc until I had answers to these questions. 
 
It might have been easier, depending on circumstances, to remove bloatware than to do something like what you did.  You may not have had problems but if my understanding is correct, I wouldn't do it unless I knew how it would affect the specific computer.  I suppose if you didn’t like what it did, you could use the restore to factory state if you couldn't conveniently correct the problems but that might be a lot of time and inconvenience as well, restoring to factory state, upgrading Windows again, and having the malware back again and removing it in another way.
 
I don't know what you knew in advance but if I'm right about what this procedure does, in general, people shouldn't do things like this unless they really know just what such procedures do and what the results might be.  As I say, I don't know what you already knew.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

I bought a branded hp laptop. It came with some bloatware on it. I just updated windows10 to the creators edition then used the refresh pc feature to wipe out all the bloatware. It also installed a fresh windows10. then used the disk partitioner to erase the factory recovery partition.


On 8/3/2017 2:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

That's why I never like to buy branded pcs because of their many bloatwares.  So I get myself a lenovo, for example, and reformat the pc so I can have a windows installation tailored to my needs.  Apart from accessibility issues, these bloatwares take up space and slow down your what might have been a smooth, fast pc.  Most of these bloatwares are gimmicks anyways.  Cheers!


On 4/8/2017 2:14 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:

 

Hi Pamela,

 

As I remember, it was during the last half of the year when Lenovo took the steps to not include this malware on their computers. Had it happened by August? I sort of doubt it, but again, every computer they produced did not receive it. I am sure that you have installed the major /Windows updates since that time, and I make it a practice to remove all bloatware and most of the Lemovo utilities from my computers when I get them. If you have done this, you likely would not still have it on your machine.

 

Michael

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I got mine around this time two years ago.  Is it in the time frame to still have had it?  Pam.

 

From: Michael Boyd

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I remember when that thing about Lenovo computers, and I believe one or two other brands, having spyware or malware on their computers. Lenovo sent out messages to their registered owners addressing the issue, and they gave a support number which could be called to have your computer checked out for the suspected bad boy. I had mine checked and both were found to be clean. They had put a name to this malware, but I do not now remember what it was. Lenovo stated at that time, that some of the software that they were pre-installing onto their computers may have been infected, and they stopped including that particular product . If you purchased a computer between a particular date range, again something that I did not commit to memory, then there was a chance that your computer may have been infected. Fortunately, neither of mine were not. There is no reason to worry about purchasing a Lenovo computer today.

 

Michael

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Greico
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I have a lenovo & I love it.

 

 

On 31-Jul-17 10:53 PM, george b wrote:

I been using a lanova yoga 900 for the past year and a half and love it

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: July 31, 2017 19:25
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I seem to remember reading on this list a few months back that, Lenovo Had some kind of spyware on their laptops. But, pc magazine said they are coming out as the top brand of 2017 followed by Asus, dell hp and lastly apple. I wanted to see if anyone can speak of their experiences with Lenovo laptop, do you like it or do you wish you had a different brand?

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

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Re: Download for Windows7 ISOs

Jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Just to add to my previous post, in hopes that someone else finds the link useful, here's a link that has a fair number of ISOs from Digital River. it appears to be their archived section, but I still plan on checking the MD5s and such to make sure they're okay. My thanks to Carlos who sent me the initial link with them posted that had a working link now which I was able to get going.
https://archive.org/download/digital_river
Take care.

On 8/3/2017 2:23 PM, jeremy wrote:
Hey all,
I know that here not so long ago on list some downloads for the ISOs for Win7 were posted. I'd had most of the downloads that I wanted so didn't see a need to keep the links or messages. Early last week however, my external decided to crap out, resulting in the loss of the ISO and the backups for 7 that I used when I wanted to restore. I'm in the process of searching down the tool I used to register Windows on my OEM machine and also the drivers for it, but I can't seem to locate a decent place to grab 7pro.

If it'd be possible for someone to post up the link for it or where I might be able to look, I would be most grateful as I'd like to get my backup image recreated.
Thank you bunches and hope everyone is well.
Take care.


Re: OT: Looking for Old Time Radio

Gene
 

Archive.org isn't difficult if you use it in an efficient way.  First, I seldom go directly to any site when I'm looking for something.  google searches are faster than going to this site or that site and working with different organization and interfaces.  Doing Google searches is usually far more efficient. 
 

Archive.org's audio quality varies widely.  Their material comes from collectors as far as I can tell and ranges from good to barely understandable and the quality varies regularly even within one series.
 
You may get better audio elsewhere but I don't know if you will if you get content for free. 
 
Look up what you want to find, such as Gun Smoke on google.  If you want to see archive.org results first, then do a search for Gun Smoke archive.org
Look quickly at the results, or at least the relevant first ones until you find what you want or something promising.  Then follow the link.  The first result I got was for Gunsmoke - Single Episodes : Old Time Radio ... - Internet Archive
Since sites usually have related links such as to download all of something if such downloads are available on the site, I followed the single episodes link since a quick look at two or three more results didn't have anything like Gun Smoke, full series or anything similar.
Partway down the page, I found this:
This is the Single Episode Page. The Certified Set includes extras not found here. It is located at OTRR Certified Set. This page is provided in case you want to sample the shows.
 
I'm not saying that you shouldn't ask for radio shows.  others may have more consistent quality of recordings.  I'm not sure if there may be other advantages. 
But I'm saying that the Internet Archive can be used with reasonable, if not ideal efficiency.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 4:49 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] OT: Looking for Old Time Radio

While I know I can get most of what I'm after from archive.org I do not care much for that site. It is badly organized and not very streamlined. I'd be spending most of my time trying to figure the site out rather than getting content.
I'm looking to reclaim my old time radio (OTR) holdings after a hard drive failure. If anybody has some they would like to share, or a resource from where i can download it, I'd be most grateful. Most of this stuff is in the public domain, hence its availability on archive.org. If I have to go there I will, but I'd prefer more direct links.




This Weeks Top Tech Tidbits

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


1. The July 2017 issue of AccessWorld includes an article about procuring accessible textbooks, an article about getting the most from sighted technical support, and a review of Spoonbill Software Games, along with other material:
 
 
2. Project Aspiro is a comprehensive career planning and employment resource for individuals who are blind or partially sighted:
 
 
3. 'Chrome Plated, Using Google Chrome with JAWS for Windows' is a 50-pound (about $62) four-lesson course from Hartgen Consultancy which starts in a couple weeks:
 
 
4. Also from Hartgen Consultancy, Leasey Version 3.3 has been released, adding more power and flexibility for JAWS users who use it (MP3):
 
 
5. Here is a short Spanish podcast about the Seeing AI App (MP3):
 
 
6. The Fred's Head Blog reminds us about Bill Brown's fully audio music lessons for the blind. Many are freely available through NLS:
 
 
7.A. In this week's coverage of the digital assistants, we offer a David Woodbridge podcast comparing Amazon Echo and Google Home from an Australian perspective:
 
 
7.B. CNET brings us '25 Alexa Tips and Tricks:'
 
 
7.C. And to round out the news, here are '9 Cool Things You Didn't Know You Could Do with Siri:'
 
 
8. HumanWare is unveiling the Victor Reader Trek, and they'll tell us about it during a webinar on GMT Friday, 25 August 2017 at 00:00. Register here:
 
 
9. Project Starfish | America claims to have a proven program for blind job seekers:
 
 
10. Catching up with Eyes on Success, recent episodes concern the family's cross country move, challenges of college-bound blind students, and successes of a blind double-amputee World War II Veteran:
 
 
11. As we've rolled into a new month, we can share the July 2017 edition of AppleVis Unlimited, the monthly series which aims to highlight what's new and noteworthy on the AppleVis website:
 
 
12.A.) Mystic Access will offer a free class, 'Comparing the VarioUltra and Orbit Reader,' offers via phone, on GMT Friday, 1 September 2017 at 01:00 GMT:
 
 
12.B. And finally, 'Your Website, Your Way. The Power, Flexibility and Accessibility of WordPress,' a Six-Week class starting GMT Thursday, 7 September 2017 at 00:30 and costing $89:
 
 
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OT: Looking for Old Time Radio

Rob <captinlogic@...>
 

While I know I can get most of what I'm after from archive.org I do not care much for that site. It is badly organized and not very streamlined. I'd be spending most of my time trying to figure the site out rather than getting content.
I'm looking to reclaim my old time radio (OTR) holdings after a hard drive failure. If anybody has some they would like to share, or a resource from where i can download it, I'd be most grateful. Most of this stuff is in the public domain, hence its availability on archive.org. If I have to go there I will, but I'd prefer more direct links.


roku

Shirley Healy <irishandblind1980@...>
 

can someone give me some info on this please? what is it and how do you get it and where from and is it only available in the USA  etc?
shirley

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Lenovo laptops

Gene
 

What do you want to do?  do you want to have a clean installation of Windows?  Does the computer have a hidden partition to return it to the factory state?  You will lose every thing on it but you will have a Windows n the same state as when the computer came from the factory and everything, bloatware, utilities, whatever was on it when it came from the factory.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 3:56 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops

Didn't Lenovo use to be IBM?  I have an IBM ThinkPad called T-40.  From what I can find, it was also called Lenovo.  I'd sure like to clean up the windows xp installation on it but I might have problems finding drivers for its hardware.  Any thoughts on the matter, please and thanks.
Howard


Re: Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

Josh Kennedy
 

the graphics processor. that's all I know of. CPU and GPU. I just know this machine runs nice and cool. and it works and runs all the apps and audio games I need it to run for me and that it was a nice affordable $250 on amazon. it works so maybe others would want to try the same type. AMD a6 quad core.



On 8/3/2017 4:36 PM, Monte Single wrote:

What a m d parts besides the processor are in your laptop?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: August-03-17 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

this laptop uses lots of generic hardware. windows automatically recognized all AMD drivers so had no issues at all. if I and when I buy another computer it will for sure be one with AMD hardware in it. When I get my son a new laptop I'm getting him one with AMD stuff inside but AMD a12 and better radeon graphics for the games he likes. Even with a traditional spinning hard drive when I touch the side of this computer even when the CPU is maxed out you can't even feel that its running. It runs as or nearly as cool as a cell phone or as cool as my android tablet. But the 9 year old laptop my sighted son is using now that thing gets hot. Its using intel chips. I had an early 2007 late 2006 AMD laptop before I sold it and it ran a bit warm, but not as warm as the old hp elitebook 6930p intel dual core 2.5ghz my son is using. I upgraded that laptop with an ssd and windows10. Did as much as I could for him. But he really needs a new machine and he's getting one in a few months for christmas. my son is 10 years old and in fifth grade.

 

 

On 8/3/2017 3:35 PM, Gene wrote:

I believe refresh the PC removes all drivers supplied by the manufacturer.  I suspect that, if proprietary utilities are used to adjust certain things regarding computer operation, you may lose those and I'm not sure if the Windows ones wil work.  I wouldn't use refresh the pc until I had answers to these questions. 

 

It might have been easier, depending on circumstances, to remove bloatware than to do something like what you did.  You may not have had problems but if my understanding is correct, I wouldn't do it unless I knew how it would affect the specific computer.  I suppose if you didn’t like what it did, you could use the restore to factory state if you couldn't conveniently correct the problems but that might be a lot of time and inconvenience as well, restoring to factory state, upgrading Windows again, and having the malware back again and removing it in another way.

 

I don't know what you knew in advance but if I'm right about what this procedure does, in general, people shouldn't do things like this unless they really know just what such procedures do and what the results might be.  As I say, I don't know what you already knew.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:57 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I bought a branded hp laptop. It came with some bloatware on it. I just updated windows10 to the creators edition then used the refresh pc feature to wipe out all the bloatware. It also installed a fresh windows10. then used the disk partitioner to erase the factory recovery partition.

 

On 8/3/2017 2:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

That's why I never like to buy branded pcs because of their many bloatwares.  So I get myself a lenovo, for example, and reformat the pc so I can have a windows installation tailored to my needs.  Apart from accessibility issues, these bloatwares take up space and slow down your what might have been a smooth, fast pc.  Most of these bloatwares are gimmicks anyways.  Cheers!

 

On 4/8/2017 2:14 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:

 

Hi Pamela,

 

As I remember, it was during the last half of the year when Lenovo took the steps to not include this malware on their computers. Had it happened by August? I sort of doubt it, but again, every computer they produced did not receive it. I am sure that you have installed the major /Windows updates since that time, and I make it a practice to remove all bloatware and most of the Lemovo utilities from my computers when I get them. If you have done this, you likely would not still have it on your machine.

 

Michael

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I got mine around this time two years ago.  Is it in the time frame to still have had it?  Pam.

 

From: Michael Boyd

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I remember when that thing about Lenovo computers, and I believe one or two other brands, having spyware or malware on their computers. Lenovo sent out messages to their registered owners addressing the issue, and they gave a support number which could be called to have your computer checked out for the suspected bad boy. I had mine checked and both were found to be clean. They had put a name to this malware, but I do not now remember what it was. Lenovo stated at that time, that some of the software that they were pre-installing onto their computers may have been infected, and they stopped including that particular product . If you purchased a computer between a particular date range, again something that I did not commit to memory, then there was a chance that your computer may have been infected. Fortunately, neither of mine were not. There is no reason to worry about purchasing a Lenovo computer today.

 

Michael

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Greico
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I have a lenovo & I love it.

 

 

On 31-Jul-17 10:53 PM, george b wrote:

I been using a lanova yoga 900 for the past year and a half and love it

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: July 31, 2017 19:25
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I seem to remember reading on this list a few months back that, Lenovo Had some kind of spyware on their laptops. But, pc magazine said they are coming out as the top brand of 2017 followed by Asus, dell hp and lastly apple. I wanted to see if anyone can speak of their experiences with Lenovo laptop, do you like it or do you wish you had a different brand?

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

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Re: Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

Josh Kennedy
 

I've had two AMD computers one from 2006 the other from 2017. this is just what I have observed personally. I also read that AMD has better integrated graphics when it comes to notebooks. And my son said some games he tried on my computer run better than on his hp elitebook 6930p from early 2009 or so. this is my own experience. others may have different experiences.



On 8/3/2017 4:31 PM, Gene wrote:
It sounds to me as though you are generalizing from very little experience or evidence.  you have given one example of an AMD computer that runs cool.  Unless you have compared ten or twenty different brands and models with different chips, that is no basis to even begin to make a comparison.  I have no idea if AMD or Intel processors are cooler.  I don't know anything about speed and reliability.  I'm going into this in part to argue with your method of drawing conclusions and in part because I don't want others to draw conclusions from what you wrote. 
Also, different chips by the same company may run differently. 
 
I want to make clear that I'm not saying you are right or wrong.  I'm saying that your methodology for drawing conclusions, comparing two or three computers, and two or threee of different brands, if that is what you are doing, ages, and models, is meaningless. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

this laptop uses lots of generic hardware. windows automatically recognized all AMD drivers so had no issues at all. if I and when I buy another computer it will for sure be one with AMD hardware in it. When I get my son a new laptop I'm getting him one with AMD stuff inside but AMD a12 and better radeon graphics for the games he likes. Even with a traditional spinning hard drive when I touch the side of this computer even when the CPU is maxed out you can't even feel that its running. It runs as or nearly as cool as a cell phone or as cool as my android tablet. But the 9 year old laptop my sighted son is using now that thing gets hot. Its using intel chips. I had an early 2007 late 2006 AMD laptop before I sold it and it ran a bit warm, but not as warm as the old hp elitebook 6930p intel dual core 2.5ghz my son is using. I upgraded that laptop with an ssd and windows10. Did as much as I could for him. But he really needs a new machine and he's getting one in a few months for christmas. my son is 10 years old and in fifth grade.



On 8/3/2017 3:35 PM, Gene wrote:
I believe refresh the PC removes all drivers supplied by the manufacturer.  I suspect that, if proprietary utilities are used to adjust certain things regarding computer operation, you may lose those and I'm not sure if the Windows ones wil work.  I wouldn't use refresh the pc until I had answers to these questions. 
 
It might have been easier, depending on circumstances, to remove bloatware than to do something like what you did.  You may not have had problems but if my understanding is correct, I wouldn't do it unless I knew how it would affect the specific computer.  I suppose if you didn’t like what it did, you could use the restore to factory state if you couldn't conveniently correct the problems but that might be a lot of time and inconvenience as well, restoring to factory state, upgrading Windows again, and having the malware back again and removing it in another way.
 
I don't know what you knew in advance but if I'm right about what this procedure does, in general, people shouldn't do things like this unless they really know just what such procedures do and what the results might be.  As I say, I don't know what you already knew.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

I bought a branded hp laptop. It came with some bloatware on it. I just updated windows10 to the creators edition then used the refresh pc feature to wipe out all the bloatware. It also installed a fresh windows10. then used the disk partitioner to erase the factory recovery partition.


On 8/3/2017 2:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

That's why I never like to buy branded pcs because of their many bloatwares.  So I get myself a lenovo, for example, and reformat the pc so I can have a windows installation tailored to my needs.  Apart from accessibility issues, these bloatwares take up space and slow down your what might have been a smooth, fast pc.  Most of these bloatwares are gimmicks anyways.  Cheers!


On 4/8/2017 2:14 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:

 

Hi Pamela,

 

As I remember, it was during the last half of the year when Lenovo took the steps to not include this malware on their computers. Had it happened by August? I sort of doubt it, but again, every computer they produced did not receive it. I am sure that you have installed the major /Windows updates since that time, and I make it a practice to remove all bloatware and most of the Lemovo utilities from my computers when I get them. If you have done this, you likely would not still have it on your machine.

 

Michael

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I got mine around this time two years ago.  Is it in the time frame to still have had it?  Pam.

 

From: Michael Boyd

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I remember when that thing about Lenovo computers, and I believe one or two other brands, having spyware or malware on their computers. Lenovo sent out messages to their registered owners addressing the issue, and they gave a support number which could be called to have your computer checked out for the suspected bad boy. I had mine checked and both were found to be clean. They had put a name to this malware, but I do not now remember what it was. Lenovo stated at that time, that some of the software that they were pre-installing onto their computers may have been infected, and they stopped including that particular product . If you purchased a computer between a particular date range, again something that I did not commit to memory, then there was a chance that your computer may have been infected. Fortunately, neither of mine were not. There is no reason to worry about purchasing a Lenovo computer today.

 

Michael

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Greico
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I have a lenovo & I love it.

 

 

On 31-Jul-17 10:53 PM, george b wrote:

I been using a lanova yoga 900 for the past year and a half and love it

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: July 31, 2017 19:25
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I seem to remember reading on this list a few months back that, Lenovo Had some kind of spyware on their laptops. But, pc magazine said they are coming out as the top brand of 2017 followed by Asus, dell hp and lastly apple. I wanted to see if anyone can speak of their experiences with Lenovo laptop, do you like it or do you wish you had a different brand?

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

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contact:
e-mail:
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skype: cynterline
ham call sign:
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sites:
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www.nfb.org
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www.blindhow.com

 

 


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Lenovo laptops

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 


Didn't Lenovo use to be IBM?  I have an IBM ThinkPad called T-40.  From what I can find, it was also called Lenovo.  I'd sure like to clean up the windows xp installation on it but I might have problems finding drivers for its hardware.  Any thoughts on the matter, please and thanks.

Howard


Re: Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

Monte Single
 

What a m d parts besides the processor are in your laptop?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: August-03-17 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

this laptop uses lots of generic hardware. windows automatically recognized all AMD drivers so had no issues at all. if I and when I buy another computer it will for sure be one with AMD hardware in it. When I get my son a new laptop I'm getting him one with AMD stuff inside but AMD a12 and better radeon graphics for the games he likes. Even with a traditional spinning hard drive when I touch the side of this computer even when the CPU is maxed out you can't even feel that its running. It runs as or nearly as cool as a cell phone or as cool as my android tablet. But the 9 year old laptop my sighted son is using now that thing gets hot. Its using intel chips. I had an early 2007 late 2006 AMD laptop before I sold it and it ran a bit warm, but not as warm as the old hp elitebook 6930p intel dual core 2.5ghz my son is using. I upgraded that laptop with an ssd and windows10. Did as much as I could for him. But he really needs a new machine and he's getting one in a few months for christmas. my son is 10 years old and in fifth grade.

 

 

On 8/3/2017 3:35 PM, Gene wrote:

I believe refresh the PC removes all drivers supplied by the manufacturer.  I suspect that, if proprietary utilities are used to adjust certain things regarding computer operation, you may lose those and I'm not sure if the Windows ones wil work.  I wouldn't use refresh the pc until I had answers to these questions. 

 

It might have been easier, depending on circumstances, to remove bloatware than to do something like what you did.  You may not have had problems but if my understanding is correct, I wouldn't do it unless I knew how it would affect the specific computer.  I suppose if you didn’t like what it did, you could use the restore to factory state if you couldn't conveniently correct the problems but that might be a lot of time and inconvenience as well, restoring to factory state, upgrading Windows again, and having the malware back again and removing it in another way.

 

I don't know what you knew in advance but if I'm right about what this procedure does, in general, people shouldn't do things like this unless they really know just what such procedures do and what the results might be.  As I say, I don't know what you already knew.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:57 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I bought a branded hp laptop. It came with some bloatware on it. I just updated windows10 to the creators edition then used the refresh pc feature to wipe out all the bloatware. It also installed a fresh windows10. then used the disk partitioner to erase the factory recovery partition.

 

On 8/3/2017 2:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

That's why I never like to buy branded pcs because of their many bloatwares.  So I get myself a lenovo, for example, and reformat the pc so I can have a windows installation tailored to my needs.  Apart from accessibility issues, these bloatwares take up space and slow down your what might have been a smooth, fast pc.  Most of these bloatwares are gimmicks anyways.  Cheers!

 

On 4/8/2017 2:14 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:

 

Hi Pamela,

 

As I remember, it was during the last half of the year when Lenovo took the steps to not include this malware on their computers. Had it happened by August? I sort of doubt it, but again, every computer they produced did not receive it. I am sure that you have installed the major /Windows updates since that time, and I make it a practice to remove all bloatware and most of the Lemovo utilities from my computers when I get them. If you have done this, you likely would not still have it on your machine.

 

Michael

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I got mine around this time two years ago.  Is it in the time frame to still have had it?  Pam.

 

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I remember when that thing about Lenovo computers, and I believe one or two other brands, having spyware or malware on their computers. Lenovo sent out messages to their registered owners addressing the issue, and they gave a support number which could be called to have your computer checked out for the suspected bad boy. I had mine checked and both were found to be clean. They had put a name to this malware, but I do not now remember what it was. Lenovo stated at that time, that some of the software that they were pre-installing onto their computers may have been infected, and they stopped including that particular product . If you purchased a computer between a particular date range, again something that I did not commit to memory, then there was a chance that your computer may have been infected. Fortunately, neither of mine were not. There is no reason to worry about purchasing a Lenovo computer today.

 

Michael

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Greico
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I have a lenovo & I love it.

 

 

On 31-Jul-17 10:53 PM, george b wrote:

I been using a lanova yoga 900 for the past year and a half and love it

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: July 31, 2017 19:25
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I seem to remember reading on this list a few months back that, Lenovo Had some kind of spyware on their laptops. But, pc magazine said they are coming out as the top brand of 2017 followed by Asus, dell hp and lastly apple. I wanted to see if anyone can speak of their experiences with Lenovo laptop, do you like it or do you wish you had a different brand?

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
contact:
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...
skype: cynterline
ham call sign:
kd5cbl
sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
how the blind do it:
www.blindhow.com

 

 


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Re: Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

Gene
 

It sounds to me as though you are generalizing from very little experience or evidence.  you have given one example of an AMD computer that runs cool.  Unless you have compared ten or twenty different brands and models with different chips, that is no basis to even begin to make a comparison.  I have no idea if AMD or Intel processors are cooler.  I don't know anything about speed and reliability.  I'm going into this in part to argue with your method of drawing conclusions and in part because I don't want others to draw conclusions from what you wrote. 
Also, different chips by the same company may run differently. 
 
I want to make clear that I'm not saying you are right or wrong.  I'm saying that your methodology for drawing conclusions, comparing two or three computers, and two or threee of different brands, if that is what you are doing, ages, and models, is meaningless. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

this laptop uses lots of generic hardware. windows automatically recognized all AMD drivers so had no issues at all. if I and when I buy another computer it will for sure be one with AMD hardware in it. When I get my son a new laptop I'm getting him one with AMD stuff inside but AMD a12 and better radeon graphics for the games he likes. Even with a traditional spinning hard drive when I touch the side of this computer even when the CPU is maxed out you can't even feel that its running. It runs as or nearly as cool as a cell phone or as cool as my android tablet. But the 9 year old laptop my sighted son is using now that thing gets hot. Its using intel chips. I had an early 2007 late 2006 AMD laptop before I sold it and it ran a bit warm, but not as warm as the old hp elitebook 6930p intel dual core 2.5ghz my son is using. I upgraded that laptop with an ssd and windows10. Did as much as I could for him. But he really needs a new machine and he's getting one in a few months for christmas. my son is 10 years old and in fifth grade.



On 8/3/2017 3:35 PM, Gene wrote:
I believe refresh the PC removes all drivers supplied by the manufacturer.  I suspect that, if proprietary utilities are used to adjust certain things regarding computer operation, you may lose those and I'm not sure if the Windows ones wil work.  I wouldn't use refresh the pc until I had answers to these questions. 
 
It might have been easier, depending on circumstances, to remove bloatware than to do something like what you did.  You may not have had problems but if my understanding is correct, I wouldn't do it unless I knew how it would affect the specific computer.  I suppose if you didn’t like what it did, you could use the restore to factory state if you couldn't conveniently correct the problems but that might be a lot of time and inconvenience as well, restoring to factory state, upgrading Windows again, and having the malware back again and removing it in another way.
 
I don't know what you knew in advance but if I'm right about what this procedure does, in general, people shouldn't do things like this unless they really know just what such procedures do and what the results might be.  As I say, I don't know what you already knew.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

I bought a branded hp laptop. It came with some bloatware on it. I just updated windows10 to the creators edition then used the refresh pc feature to wipe out all the bloatware. It also installed a fresh windows10. then used the disk partitioner to erase the factory recovery partition.


On 8/3/2017 2:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

That's why I never like to buy branded pcs because of their many bloatwares.  So I get myself a lenovo, for example, and reformat the pc so I can have a windows installation tailored to my needs.  Apart from accessibility issues, these bloatwares take up space and slow down your what might have been a smooth, fast pc.  Most of these bloatwares are gimmicks anyways.  Cheers!


On 4/8/2017 2:14 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:

 

Hi Pamela,

 

As I remember, it was during the last half of the year when Lenovo took the steps to not include this malware on their computers. Had it happened by August? I sort of doubt it, but again, every computer they produced did not receive it. I am sure that you have installed the major /Windows updates since that time, and I make it a practice to remove all bloatware and most of the Lemovo utilities from my computers when I get them. If you have done this, you likely would not still have it on your machine.

 

Michael

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I got mine around this time two years ago.  Is it in the time frame to still have had it?  Pam.

 

From: Michael Boyd

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I remember when that thing about Lenovo computers, and I believe one or two other brands, having spyware or malware on their computers. Lenovo sent out messages to their registered owners addressing the issue, and they gave a support number which could be called to have your computer checked out for the suspected bad boy. I had mine checked and both were found to be clean. They had put a name to this malware, but I do not now remember what it was. Lenovo stated at that time, that some of the software that they were pre-installing onto their computers may have been infected, and they stopped including that particular product . If you purchased a computer between a particular date range, again something that I did not commit to memory, then there was a chance that your computer may have been infected. Fortunately, neither of mine were not. There is no reason to worry about purchasing a Lenovo computer today.

 

Michael

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Greico
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I have a lenovo & I love it.

 

 

On 31-Jul-17 10:53 PM, george b wrote:

I been using a lanova yoga 900 for the past year and a half and love it

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: July 31, 2017 19:25
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I seem to remember reading on this list a few months back that, Lenovo Had some kind of spyware on their laptops. But, pc magazine said they are coming out as the top brand of 2017 followed by Asus, dell hp and lastly apple. I wanted to see if anyone can speak of their experiences with Lenovo laptop, do you like it or do you wish you had a different brand?

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
contact:
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...
skype: cynterline
ham call sign:
kd5cbl
sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
how the blind do it:
www.blindhow.com

 

 


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Re: Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

Josh Kennedy
 

this laptop uses lots of generic hardware. windows automatically recognized all AMD drivers so had no issues at all. if I and when I buy another computer it will for sure be one with AMD hardware in it. When I get my son a new laptop I'm getting him one with AMD stuff inside but AMD a12 and better radeon graphics for the games he likes. Even with a traditional spinning hard drive when I touch the side of this computer even when the CPU is maxed out you can't even feel that its running. It runs as or nearly as cool as a cell phone or as cool as my android tablet. But the 9 year old laptop my sighted son is using now that thing gets hot. Its using intel chips. I had an early 2007 late 2006 AMD laptop before I sold it and it ran a bit warm, but not as warm as the old hp elitebook 6930p intel dual core 2.5ghz my son is using. I upgraded that laptop with an ssd and windows10. Did as much as I could for him. But he really needs a new machine and he's getting one in a few months for christmas. my son is 10 years old and in fifth grade.



On 8/3/2017 3:35 PM, Gene wrote:
I believe refresh the PC removes all drivers supplied by the manufacturer.  I suspect that, if proprietary utilities are used to adjust certain things regarding computer operation, you may lose those and I'm not sure if the Windows ones wil work.  I wouldn't use refresh the pc until I had answers to these questions. 
 
It might have been easier, depending on circumstances, to remove bloatware than to do something like what you did.  You may not have had problems but if my understanding is correct, I wouldn't do it unless I knew how it would affect the specific computer.  I suppose if you didn’t like what it did, you could use the restore to factory state if you couldn't conveniently correct the problems but that might be a lot of time and inconvenience as well, restoring to factory state, upgrading Windows again, and having the malware back again and removing it in another way.
 
I don't know what you knew in advance but if I'm right about what this procedure does, in general, people shouldn't do things like this unless they really know just what such procedures do and what the results might be.  As I say, I don't know what you already knew.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

I bought a branded hp laptop. It came with some bloatware on it. I just updated windows10 to the creators edition then used the refresh pc feature to wipe out all the bloatware. It also installed a fresh windows10. then used the disk partitioner to erase the factory recovery partition.


On 8/3/2017 2:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

That's why I never like to buy branded pcs because of their many bloatwares.  So I get myself a lenovo, for example, and reformat the pc so I can have a windows installation tailored to my needs.  Apart from accessibility issues, these bloatwares take up space and slow down your what might have been a smooth, fast pc.  Most of these bloatwares are gimmicks anyways.  Cheers!


On 4/8/2017 2:14 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:

 

Hi Pamela,

 

As I remember, it was during the last half of the year when Lenovo took the steps to not include this malware on their computers. Had it happened by August? I sort of doubt it, but again, every computer they produced did not receive it. I am sure that you have installed the major /Windows updates since that time, and I make it a practice to remove all bloatware and most of the Lemovo utilities from my computers when I get them. If you have done this, you likely would not still have it on your machine.

 

Michael

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I got mine around this time two years ago.  Is it in the time frame to still have had it?  Pam.

 

From: Michael Boyd

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I remember when that thing about Lenovo computers, and I believe one or two other brands, having spyware or malware on their computers. Lenovo sent out messages to their registered owners addressing the issue, and they gave a support number which could be called to have your computer checked out for the suspected bad boy. I had mine checked and both were found to be clean. They had put a name to this malware, but I do not now remember what it was. Lenovo stated at that time, that some of the software that they were pre-installing onto their computers may have been infected, and they stopped including that particular product . If you purchased a computer between a particular date range, again something that I did not commit to memory, then there was a chance that your computer may have been infected. Fortunately, neither of mine were not. There is no reason to worry about purchasing a Lenovo computer today.

 

Michael

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Greico
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I have a lenovo & I love it.

 

 

On 31-Jul-17 10:53 PM, george b wrote:

I been using a lanova yoga 900 for the past year and a half and love it

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: July 31, 2017 19:25
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I seem to remember reading on this list a few months back that, Lenovo Had some kind of spyware on their laptops. But, pc magazine said they are coming out as the top brand of 2017 followed by Asus, dell hp and lastly apple. I wanted to see if anyone can speak of their experiences with Lenovo laptop, do you like it or do you wish you had a different brand?

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
contact:
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NVDA Question

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 


Using a text editer like notepad on my win10 computer, if I tell NVDA to spell a word, the letters come very slowly; maybe two characters per second. 
That's not at all like the reading speed that I have set.  Wonder if there's something that will speedd it up a bit?  Thanks.
Howard


Re: Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

Gene
 

I don't see why that would be the case and I await comments from others who have much more technical knowledge than I do.  Bloatware are programs and utilities.  Why should they corrupt anything unless they are defectively designed?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

Well it's just me.  I have this belief that bloatware somehow corrupts the eco environment where they reside and have to be completely wiped off.


On 4/8/2017 3:00 AM, Gene wrote:
There are programs such as the decrapifyer that automatically remove a lot of bloatware.  You dohn't have to do all sorts of work such as reformat the computer, put a clean version of Windows on, look for drivers, and whatever else you might have to do.  Bloatware can be removed.  and I believe significant amounts of bloatware are more common on laptops. 
Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

That's why I never like to buy branded pcs because of their many bloatwares.  So I get myself a lenovo, for example, and reformat the pc so I can have a windows installation tailored to my needs.  Apart from accessibility issues, these bloatwares take up space and slow down your what might have been a smooth, fast pc.  Most of these bloatwares are gimmicks anyways.  Cheers!


On 4/8/2017 2:14 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:

 

Hi Pamela,

 

As I remember, it was during the last half of the year when Lenovo took the steps to not include this malware on their computers. Had it happened by August? I sort of doubt it, but again, every computer they produced did not receive it. I am sure that you have installed the major /Windows updates since that time, and I make it a practice to remove all bloatware and most of the Lemovo utilities from my computers when I get them. If you have done this, you likely would not still have it on your machine.

 

Michael

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I got mine around this time two years ago.  Is it in the time frame to still have had it?  Pam.

 

From: Michael Boyd

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I remember when that thing about Lenovo computers, and I believe one or two other brands, having spyware or malware on their computers. Lenovo sent out messages to their registered owners addressing the issue, and they gave a support number which could be called to have your computer checked out for the suspected bad boy. I had mine checked and both were found to be clean. They had put a name to this malware, but I do not now remember what it was. Lenovo stated at that time, that some of the software that they were pre-installing onto their computers may have been infected, and they stopped including that particular product . If you purchased a computer between a particular date range, again something that I did not commit to memory, then there was a chance that your computer may have been infected. Fortunately, neither of mine were not. There is no reason to worry about purchasing a Lenovo computer today.

 

Michael

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Greico
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I have a lenovo & I love it.

 

 

On 31-Jul-17 10:53 PM, george b wrote:

I been using a lanova yoga 900 for the past year and a half and love it

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: July 31, 2017 19:25
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I seem to remember reading on this list a few months back that, Lenovo Had some kind of spyware on their laptops. But, pc magazine said they are coming out as the top brand of 2017 followed by Asus, dell hp and lastly apple. I wanted to see if anyone can speak of their experiences with Lenovo laptop, do you like it or do you wish you had a different brand?

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

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Re: Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

Gene
 

I believe refresh the PC removes all drivers supplied by the manufacturer.  I suspect that, if proprietary utilities are used to adjust certain things regarding computer operation, you may lose those and I'm not sure if the Windows ones wil work.  I wouldn't use refresh the pc until I had answers to these questions. 
 
It might have been easier, depending on circumstances, to remove bloatware than to do something like what you did.  You may not have had problems but if my understanding is correct, I wouldn't do it unless I knew how it would affect the specific computer.  I suppose if you didn’t like what it did, you could use the restore to factory state if you couldn't conveniently correct the problems but that might be a lot of time and inconvenience as well, restoring to factory state, upgrading Windows again, and having the malware back again and removing it in another way.
 
I don't know what you knew in advance but if I'm right about what this procedure does, in general, people shouldn't do things like this unless they really know just what such procedures do and what the results might be.  As I say, I don't know what you already knew.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

I bought a branded hp laptop. It came with some bloatware on it. I just updated windows10 to the creators edition then used the refresh pc feature to wipe out all the bloatware. It also installed a fresh windows10. then used the disk partitioner to erase the factory recovery partition.


On 8/3/2017 2:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

That's why I never like to buy branded pcs because of their many bloatwares.  So I get myself a lenovo, for example, and reformat the pc so I can have a windows installation tailored to my needs.  Apart from accessibility issues, these bloatwares take up space and slow down your what might have been a smooth, fast pc.  Most of these bloatwares are gimmicks anyways.  Cheers!


On 4/8/2017 2:14 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:

 

Hi Pamela,

 

As I remember, it was during the last half of the year when Lenovo took the steps to not include this malware on their computers. Had it happened by August? I sort of doubt it, but again, every computer they produced did not receive it. I am sure that you have installed the major /Windows updates since that time, and I make it a practice to remove all bloatware and most of the Lemovo utilities from my computers when I get them. If you have done this, you likely would not still have it on your machine.

 

Michael

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I got mine around this time two years ago.  Is it in the time frame to still have had it?  Pam.

 

From: Michael Boyd

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I remember when that thing about Lenovo computers, and I believe one or two other brands, having spyware or malware on their computers. Lenovo sent out messages to their registered owners addressing the issue, and they gave a support number which could be called to have your computer checked out for the suspected bad boy. I had mine checked and both were found to be clean. They had put a name to this malware, but I do not now remember what it was. Lenovo stated at that time, that some of the software that they were pre-installing onto their computers may have been infected, and they stopped including that particular product . If you purchased a computer between a particular date range, again something that I did not commit to memory, then there was a chance that your computer may have been infected. Fortunately, neither of mine were not. There is no reason to worry about purchasing a Lenovo computer today.

 

Michael

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Greico
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I have a lenovo & I love it.

 

 

On 31-Jul-17 10:53 PM, george b wrote:

I been using a lanova yoga 900 for the past year and a half and love it

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: July 31, 2017 19:25
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo laptops is it a good brand

 

I seem to remember reading on this list a few months back that, Lenovo Had some kind of spyware on their laptops. But, pc magazine said they are coming out as the top brand of 2017 followed by Asus, dell hp and lastly apple. I wanted to see if anyone can speak of their experiences with Lenovo laptop, do you like it or do you wish you had a different brand?

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

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