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how to stop jaws from saying the word "unread" twice using windows live mail

joanne
 

On other computers I've used, when reading mail in Windows live Mail, Jaws simply says unread when seeing messages that haven't been opened.  But I'm using a friend's computer and wonder if a Jaws setting may need to be tweaked because when scrolling messages Jaws says unread unread.  I went to the Jaws script area using insert 0 but couldn't make sense of it so if anyone knows how to make it say the word only once I'd appreciate help.
 
Thanks.
 
Joanne


Re: Opinions wanted: Should I install the upcoming updates?

Monica Jones
 

I had the IOS beta on my phone, and there are features I think people might want. They've done things with the notes folder, and you can get news without having to get another app if you want. They've also made changes for the way we select text, which I think is helpful. There are other things, but those are what comes to mind first.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica D
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:58 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Opinions wanted: Should I install the upcoming updates?

Hi
I'm told that ios 9, & the new version of OS 10, will include bug fixes. Yes, there will be new features, but the main focus here will be bug fixes.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Jeremy <icu8it2@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok, weird, ended up sending my message below to bt instead. grr
Lets hope this one goes to the right place. :D
Not sure if it was me that added the wrong address into the field or something else going screwy. haha

On 8/31/2015 5:38 PM, jeremy wrote:
Probably good to double check on something like applevis, just to see how others are finding it. Also, if it's IOS you mean, just be aware that often times, if we're going to have issues, those issues will show up more so on the first release of the update, as in IOS8 for example. I normally either wait until I see that things are working ok to make me comfortable using it, or, I wait until I see that what ever bugs have been fixed and it's safe to finally update it.
Tc.
On 8/31/2015 4:33 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I would like opinions on whether or not to install the updates from Apple, when they are released in a few weeks?

Is the current beta stable
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPad




Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52
Skype, Monnirose52
Facebook, Monica Rose Jones


New member

Vic Beckley <vic.beckley3@...>
 

Hi all,

 

I just subscribed to this list. Carlos has been such a great help on the BGZ list, I had to give this list a try. I am Vic Beckley and I am from east central Ohio. I am primarily a Window-Eyes user, so if anyone needs help with it I probably can help. I look forward to enjoying and learning from this list.

 

Have a great day!

 

 

Best regards from Ohio,

 

Vic

 


Monica From Tennessee

Monica Jones
 

Hi, I’m Monica Jones. I was on the Blindtech list and thought I’d try this one. I’m from Murfreesboro, TN, near Nashville. I have a cat named Camille. If I can help y’all in any way, give me a holler. Stay cool and have a great day.
Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52
Skype, Monnirose52
Facebook, Monica Rose Jones


Re: tech problems galore!

Blaster <blaster@...>
 

I think we all can hear the frustration in your post, so maybe here's a few things that may help out a bit.

1. When you get a call center rep you can't understand, tell them you can't understand them and you want another rep. I do it all the time and it works. Sometimes they try to insist on helping. Just keep saying I can't understan you please transfer me to another rep. It works.

2. I'm not sure if you called the Microsoft accessibility support number or not. I just used them last week and there was no problems. Don't get me wrong, I still waited 25 minutes to get a rep, but that's to be expected.
Here's the number: 1–800-936–5900

3. If your talking about laptop keys sticking, then you should know they sell the little rubber bouncy things that are seated underneath the keys on ebay and other sites. They sell replacement keys with the mounting ring and the little rubber bouncy thing for about 4 bucks a piece.


HTH,
Blaster


Re: new member checking.

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi Jim,

Welcome.

Actually, you might want to hold off for a while. If you are using JAWS, you should hold off until end of this year when JFW 17 comes out (we just had a thread about JFW not working well with Windows 10; whoever that person was, are you using JFW 16.0.4350? If not, you should).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Jim Rawls [mailto:jazzpiano@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:57 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member checking.

 

Beth, when I download ten, I’ll check into her for sure. Smile’s

 

From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:40 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member checking.

 

Hey Jim, you're not alone. Having fun with Cortana? You should, she spat out a fact about Louis Braille yesterday, and if you love hemingway, she got one about the book Old Man and the Sea today.
Beth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/1/2015 7:14 AM, Jim Rawls wrote:

I hope  to learn much from this group in a friendly environment, especially on windows ten, which I have yet to download. Smile. Jim

 


Re: new member checking.

Jim Rawls
 

Beth, when I download ten, I’ll check into her for sure. Smile’s

 

From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:40 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member checking.

 

Hey Jim, you're not alone. Having fun with Cortana? You should, she spat out a fact about Louis Braille yesterday, and if you love hemingway, she got one about the book Old Man and the Sea today.
Beth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/1/2015 7:14 AM, Jim Rawls wrote:

I hope  to learn much from this group in a friendly environment, especially on windows ten, which I have yet to download. Smile. Jim

 


Re: new member checking.

Jim Rawls
 

I would think so, spin offs from the other list.

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:16 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member checking.

 

Welcome to the list Jim.  I suspect you'll see many familiar names over here.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Rawls

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:14 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] new member checking.

 

I hope  to learn much from this group in a friendly environment, especially on windows ten, which I have yet to download. Smile. Jim


Re: new member checking.

Beth
 

Hey Jim, you're not alone. Having fun with Cortana? You should, she spat out a fact about Louis Braille yesterday, and if you love hemingway, she got one about the book Old Man and the Sea today.
Beth
Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.
On 9/1/2015 7:14 AM, Jim Rawls wrote:

I hope  to learn much from this group in a friendly environment, especially on windows ten, which I have yet to download. Smile. Jim



Re: new member checking.

Carlos
 

Welcome to the list Jim.  I suspect you'll see many familiar names over here.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:14 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] new member checking.

I hope  to learn much from this group in a friendly environment, especially on windows ten, which I have yet to download. Smile. Jim


new member checking.

Jim Rawls
 

I hope  to learn much from this group in a friendly environment, especially on windows ten, which I have yet to download. Smile. Jim


Re: How to reply privately

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Crap, and here I thought I was on to something.

On 9/1/2015 7:49 AM, Carlos wrote:
Right, not to mention that the more other knowledgeable members post, the more I get to be lazy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately


Haha, not to mention, it just adds more information to the list that someone may possibly find helpful in their own environment or situation. We've got loads of folks, all using something slightly different in their setups, so, what may work for person A may not work for person b, but c dude reads it, learns something new, and boom. :)
Don't ever be fearful to ask questions, as that's the only true way for information to grow and always try and have fun with it too. hehe

On 9/1/2015 5:34 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello Christina,
You did not cause a commotion. When ever a technical issue is raised of how something should be done, it is worth discussing. It is a tech talk list after all.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Stolze" <christinastolze@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately


I didn't mean to start the whole big thing about how to send messages privately but just so everyone knows I am running Windows 7 and I am using Microsoft outlook I wasn't sure about what to do and or how to do it and so I replied to a message from someone on the list and I replied to the entire list and I apologized and explained that I didn't know how to reply to just the individual I wanted to reply to but since then thank you to all you kind people on this list I know how to reply privately and it won't happen sorry for causing all this commotion. I am not too much of a replier I am mostly just a listener and here to learn.
Best Regards,
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:55 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

If I was on the message you sent, I would hit Control C, then Control N to start a new message, then Control V and get on with it. Of course, the usual vagaries can happen, but for the most part with these lists, that will work.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:26 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

So, if I understand the procedure, you would be on a message I sent. Then all you do is control c, then start composing a new message and issue the command control v. If that is correct and if more people knew it, perhaps those using Outlook would send more private messages.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 7:16 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

When using Control C for copy, I am outside the message on the list of read and unread messages. Then when I would use Control V is in the To Field, when sending a new e-mail. Also, I can hit Alt 1 to get to the From Field that gives your address.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:45 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

I'm not sure just what you are doing nor where you are when you use control c and control v. Are you saying that when you open the message properties and execute the control c command, that my address is placed in the clipboard> Then are you saying you start a completely new message and paste?

It would be a good idea to gather information about how to reply privately in different programs and compile it in one message containing it all. Then it could be sent to appropriate lists.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:35 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io> <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

Gene, I tried your command, since it's always good to know another one. It does not work in Outlook 2013, but what does is get at the message like on yours for the Alt Enter, hit Control C. I started a new message, hit Control V, and there was your address. Also in 2013, a user can hit Shift Control up through the fields, get to the personal address and copy that, but it is so easy to just hit Control C outside the message on the list, then start a new one and hit Control v.

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:58 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io> <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

Considering how many times over the years, I see blind people on different lists not know how to respond privately to someone, here are instructions that will work on some, perhaps many, e-mail programs.

Be on the message in the message list.
Open the message properties with alt enter, that is, hold alt and press enter.
Issue the command control tab.
Try down arrowing. If you can't down arrow, tab once. Now try down arrowing again. If you have to tab once, do that every time you follow this procedure before down arrowing.
Now start down arrowing through the message headers.
There will be a lot of information but you will find a line that says from and then gives the address of the sender.
Move to the start of the address.
Then use the command shift end to select it.
Copy it to the clipboard.
Close properties with escape.
Then start a new message and paste the address into the clipboard.

Some e-mail lists won't display the original sender's address in the properties or anywhere else but many lists do.

It would be a good idea if people would send instructions about how to reply privately with different e-mail programs. I know the method I gave works in Outlook Express, Windows Live Mail and, presumably Windows Mail. I don't know if it works in Word or Thunderbird.

Gene


























Re: What happened

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Oh my goodness, 44 lists? I'm not exactly sure what would happen to my poor client, but it would most likely involve lots of loud explodie noises from my computer, probably some screeching and blubbering from me and who knows what else.
Guess it does have me just slightly interested in how many messages Thunderbird could actually hold though. Hmm!
Consider me to be officially amazed. rofllmao
Tc.

On 9/1/2015 5:49 AM, Robin Frost wrote:
Hi,
Oh come on you need about 24 more to catch up to me at 44. You can do it I know you can (laughing lots and lots. Just kidding.
And you're right not all are high traffic so that does make it a bit better (smiles).
Happy list participating one and all.
Robin


-----Original Message----- From: rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:25 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,
Well, I have no filters, and am on about 20 or so odd lists.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Frost" <robini71@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 03:23:13 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,
Awww Stan's just a wee babe I've got him beat I now have 44
filters set up
at the gmail website to handle the different addresses of
blindness related
email lists.
I'm a detail chaser and like to be in the know so I'm willing to
sift
through the riffraff to mine for treasured gold of wisdom gained
or the
chance to be a help to someone.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Wow 11? That must definitely be an impressive amount of mail.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Bobbitt" <sbobbitt@triad.rr.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened


Lol, TechTalk is my 11th list, granted at least 3 of them are
nearly
inactive ... it gets a bit hectic toward the end of the week
and over the
weekend when I'm out trying to earn a nickel and don't have time
to wade
through all those emails ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:42 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

I can certainly see Flor's point and it is really up to the
individual to
decide to how many lists they are subscribed and if it is too
much. LOL
see
my previous comments about not personally subscribing to many
lists at
once.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened


Hi Flor,
All these things are a personal preference. It can be looked
how you
mean. But those of us who are going through hundreds and
hundreds of
messages, with an email client that supports no filters, this
can be
tedious. I just deal with it, though, I know how life could be
easier.
But then again, why do I subscribe, if I can't do it? So yeah,
its really
a personal preference, in my opinion.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:23:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Rajmund,
What myou may consider unnecessary, may be considered needful by
the
poster
who believes that they are in urgent need of help, or where the
problem
being written about is a difficult one to solve unless or until
one has
sought differing perspectives on how it might be solved. (Think
of how
it
was with a kernel32 error preventing a program from running Easy
enough
to
fix when you know the answer to it which fits tyour symtpoms
precisely.
But
if you don't know, you can't run this program on which your
happiness
with
your computer depends. .) And you may nopt be able to describe
the
situation
accurately enough yourself.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:55 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi Joseph,
My nightmare is to delete the exact same thing 6 damn times.
And, when
the
person sends something in response, they send it to like 3
lists. So
that
makes it 8 more messages, than necessary.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:34 pm
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] What happened



Hi,
For me, the worst nightmare is when someone cross-posts the same
message
to
multiple lists (I did ask people on the lists I moderate to not
cross-post,
or if they have to do that, either use BCC or ask the mods
first).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:24 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,

Here's the thing. If I send something to this list, and the
BlindTech
list,
but I only put one list into the to field at the time, there's
literally
literally nothing the admins can do. If there are more than one
lists at
the
time, that's different.

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L. Roberts <donald.roberts99@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened



Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the
moderation
and sometimes the lack thereof. I very much dislike the fact
that there
are
more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all
over the
place.
It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or
six times
on
various lists. And I hope that those cross posts do not show up
here.
This
prompts a question. Is there a utility which will somehow
delete cross
posted messages? Setting up filters to do this would be a huge
undertaking.


Don Roberts



On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:

Welcome to the list Cristsbal. Indeed it is active. We
currently have
about 98 members.

LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art
of list
management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristsbal
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened


Wow, I don't' check the lists for a couple of days and
apparently
everything goes poopoo.
So is this list actually active?
All sorts of drama on BlindTech.




Sent from a Braille Sense







Sent from a Braille Sense





























Re: What happened

Christina Stolze
 

I am also only on about 6 and that is enough for me.
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan Song [mailto:kimsansong@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:11 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

I'm only subscribed to like 6...?
To much reading makes my head explode.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Bobbitt [mailto:sbobbitt@triad.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:03 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Lol, TechTalk is my 11th list, granted at least 3 of them are nearly
inactive ... it gets a bit hectic toward the end of the week and over the
weekend when I'm out trying to earn a nickel and don't have time to wade
through all those emails ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:42 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

I can certainly see Flor's point and it is really up to the individual to
decide to how many lists they are subscribed and if it is too much. LOL see
my previous comments about not personally subscribing to many lists at once.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened


Hi Flor,
All these things are a personal preference. It can be looked how you
mean. But those of us who are going through hundreds and hundreds of
messages, with an email client that supports no filters, this can be
tedious. I just deal with it, though, I know how life could be easier.
But then again, why do I subscribe, if I can't do it? So yeah, its really
a personal preference, in my opinion.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:23:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Rajmund,
What myou may consider unnecessary, may be considered needful by the
poster
who believes that they are in urgent need of help, or where the problem
being written about is a difficult one to solve unless or until one has
sought differing perspectives on how it might be solved. (Think of how it
was with a kernel32 error preventing a program from running Easy enough to
fix when you know the answer to it which fits tyour symtpoms precisely.
But
if you don't know, you can't run this program on which your happiness with
your computer depends. .) And you may nopt be able to describe the
situation
accurately enough yourself.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:55 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi Joseph,
My nightmare is to delete the exact same thing 6 damn times. And, when
the
person sends something in response, they send it to like 3 lists. So that
makes it 8 more messages, than necessary.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:34 pm
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] What happened



Hi,
For me, the worst nightmare is when someone cross-posts the same message
to
multiple lists (I did ask people on the lists I moderate to not
cross-post,
or if they have to do that, either use BCC or ask the mods first).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:24 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,

Here's the thing. If I send something to this list, and the BlindTech
list,
but I only put one list into the to field at the time, there's literally
literally nothing the admins can do. If there are more than one lists at
the
time, that's different.

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L. Roberts <donald.roberts99@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened



Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the
moderation
and sometimes the lack thereof. I very much dislike the fact that there
are
more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the
place.
It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times
on
various lists. And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here.
This
prompts a question. Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross
posted messages? Setting up filters to do this would be a huge
undertaking.


Don Roberts



On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:

Welcome to the list Cristsbal. Indeed it is active. We currently have
about 98 members.

LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list
management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristsbal
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened


Wow, I don't' check the lists for a couple of days and apparently
everything goes poopoo.
So is this list actually active?
All sorts of drama on BlindTech.




Sent from a Braille Sense







Sent from a Braille Sense









Re: How to reply privately

Carlos
 

Right, not to mention that the more other knowledgeable members post, the more I get to be lazy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately


Haha, not to mention, it just adds more information to the list that someone may possibly find helpful in their own environment or situation. We've got loads of folks, all using something slightly different in their setups, so, what may work for person A may not work for person b, but c dude reads it, learns something new, and boom. :)
Don't ever be fearful to ask questions, as that's the only true way for information to grow and always try and have fun with it too. hehe

On 9/1/2015 5:34 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello Christina,
You did not cause a commotion. When ever a technical issue is raised of how something should be done, it is worth discussing. It is a tech talk list after all.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Stolze" <christinastolze@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately


I didn't mean to start the whole big thing about how to send messages privately but just so everyone knows I am running Windows 7 and I am using Microsoft outlook I wasn't sure about what to do and or how to do it and so I replied to a message from someone on the list and I replied to the entire list and I apologized and explained that I didn't know how to reply to just the individual I wanted to reply to but since then thank you to all you kind people on this list I know how to reply privately and it won't happen sorry for causing all this commotion. I am not too much of a replier I am mostly just a listener and here to learn.
Best Regards,
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:55 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

If I was on the message you sent, I would hit Control C, then Control N to start a new message, then Control V and get on with it. Of course, the usual vagaries can happen, but for the most part with these lists, that will work.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:26 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

So, if I understand the procedure, you would be on a message I sent. Then all you do is control c, then start composing a new message and issue the command control v. If that is correct and if more people knew it, perhaps those using Outlook would send more private messages.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 7:16 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

When using Control C for copy, I am outside the message on the list of read and unread messages. Then when I would use Control V is in the To Field, when sending a new e-mail. Also, I can hit Alt 1 to get to the From Field that gives your address.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:45 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

I'm not sure just what you are doing nor where you are when you use control c and control v. Are you saying that when you open the message properties and execute the control c command, that my address is placed in the clipboard> Then are you saying you start a completely new message and paste?

It would be a good idea to gather information about how to reply privately in different programs and compile it in one message containing it all. Then it could be sent to appropriate lists.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:35 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io> <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

Gene, I tried your command, since it's always good to know another one. It does not work in Outlook 2013, but what does is get at the message like on yours for the Alt Enter, hit Control C. I started a new message, hit Control V, and there was your address. Also in 2013, a user can hit Shift Control up through the fields, get to the personal address and copy that, but it is so easy to just hit Control C outside the message on the list, then start a new one and hit Control v.

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:58 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io> <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

Considering how many times over the years, I see blind people on different lists not know how to respond privately to someone, here are instructions that will work on some, perhaps many, e-mail programs.

Be on the message in the message list.
Open the message properties with alt enter, that is, hold alt and press enter.
Issue the command control tab.
Try down arrowing. If you can't down arrow, tab once. Now try down arrowing again. If you have to tab once, do that every time you follow this procedure before down arrowing.
Now start down arrowing through the message headers.
There will be a lot of information but you will find a line that says from and then gives the address of the sender.
Move to the start of the address.
Then use the command shift end to select it.
Copy it to the clipboard.
Close properties with escape.
Then start a new message and paste the address into the clipboard.

Some e-mail lists won't display the original sender's address in the properties or anywhere else but many lists do.

It would be a good idea if people would send instructions about how to reply privately with different e-mail programs. I know the method I gave works in Outlook Express, Windows Live Mail and, presumably Windows Mail. I don't know if it works in Word or Thunderbird.

Gene
























Re: How to reply privately

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Haha, not to mention, it just adds more information to the list that someone may possibly find helpful in their own environment or situation. We've got loads of folks, all using something slightly different in their setups, so, what may work for person A may not work for person b, but c dude reads it, learns something new, and boom. :)
Don't ever be fearful to ask questions, as that's the only true way for information to grow and always try and have fun with it too. hehe

On 9/1/2015 5:34 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello Christina,
You did not cause a commotion. When ever a technical issue is raised of how something should be done, it is worth discussing. It is a tech talk list after all.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Stolze" <christinastolze@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately


I didn't mean to start the whole big thing about how to send messages privately but just so everyone knows I am running Windows 7 and I am using Microsoft outlook I wasn't sure about what to do and or how to do it and so I replied to a message from someone on the list and I replied to the entire list and I apologized and explained that I didn't know how to reply to just the individual I wanted to reply to but since then thank you to all you kind people on this list I know how to reply privately and it won't happen sorry for causing all this commotion. I am not too much of a replier I am mostly just a listener and here to learn.
Best Regards,
Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:55 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

If I was on the message you sent, I would hit Control C, then Control N to start a new message, then Control V and get on with it. Of course, the usual vagaries can happen, but for the most part with these lists, that will work.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:26 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

So, if I understand the procedure, you would be on a message I sent. Then all you do is control c, then start composing a new message and issue the command control v. If that is correct and if more people knew it, perhaps those using Outlook would send more private messages.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 7:16 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

When using Control C for copy, I am outside the message on the list of read and unread messages. Then when I would use Control V is in the To Field, when sending a new e-mail. Also, I can hit Alt 1 to get to the From Field that gives your address.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:45 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

I'm not sure just what you are doing nor where you are when you use control c and control v. Are you saying that when you open the message properties and execute the control c command, that my address is placed in the clipboard> Then are you saying you start a completely new message and paste?

It would be a good idea to gather information about how to reply privately in different programs and compile it in one message containing it all. Then it could be sent to appropriate lists.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:35 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io> <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

Gene, I tried your command, since it's always good to know another one. It does not work in Outlook 2013, but what does is get at the message like on yours for the Alt Enter, hit Control C. I started a new message, hit Control V, and there was your address. Also in 2013, a user can hit Shift Control up through the fields, get to the personal address and copy that, but it is so easy to just hit Control C outside the message on the list, then start a new one and hit Control v.

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:58 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io> <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How to reply privately

Considering how many times over the years, I see blind people on different lists not know how to respond privately to someone, here are instructions that will work on some, perhaps many, e-mail programs.

Be on the message in the message list.
Open the message properties with alt enter, that is, hold alt and press enter.
Issue the command control tab.
Try down arrowing. If you can't down arrow, tab once. Now try down arrowing again. If you have to tab once, do that every time you follow this procedure before down arrowing.
Now start down arrowing through the message headers.
There will be a lot of information but you will find a line that says from and then gives the address of the sender.
Move to the start of the address.
Then use the command shift end to select it.
Copy it to the clipboard.
Close properties with escape.
Then start a new message and paste the address into the clipboard.

Some e-mail lists won't display the original sender's address in the properties or anywhere else but many lists do.

It would be a good idea if people would send instructions about how to reply privately with different e-mail programs. I know the method I gave works in Outlook Express, Windows Live Mail and, presumably Windows Mail. I don't know if it works in Word or Thunderbird.

Gene























Re: Encryption applications for PC

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Hehe, aside from these two new ones mentioned here, diskcrypter and the latest boxcrypter, I think Chris G has it pegged. For those wanting something similar to TrueCrypt, Veracrypt looks pretty much exactly the same in its interface.
Normally, I'd of used TrueCrypt to create an encrypted volume, using the ability to have the volume stored inside a file that could be kept in sync inside a db folder and I think VeraCrypt could do this quite nicely.

I'll have to go read up on the link for boxcrypter, but, if it's what I think it is, an easy solution for encryption of files/folders within services like db, that sounds pretty awesome too.

As for diskcrypter, I still want to download it, just to take a look at its accessibility, but I'm not sure how much I'll actually be able to use it. So far, I'm really not hoping for a solution to encrypt things like a full disk or my system partition, but, for those wanting such a creature, by it's features list, it looks pretty BA though.
I'll be sure to post anything else I find, as soon as I get around to downloading these new ones and thank you all for responding with the suggestions/links.
Tc.

On 9/1/2015 1:30 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hi Dennis,
I'm not sure if I'll have the time soon, but it looks like Jeremy was going to do so anyway. I'll let him do the dirty work and see what he has to say.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Encryption applications for PC


If you have time could you test them?

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:40 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Encryption applications for PC

LOL unfortunately you already beat me to two of the suggestions I would have made.
DiskCryptor
https://diskcryptor.net/wiki/Main_Page
is the only other suggestion I have at the moment and like with CipherShed and VeraCrypt, I have not personally performed any testing.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:31 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Encryption applications for PC


Howdy,

I was hoping to gather up some ideas/thoughts on PC applications, used
for different levels of encryption, more specifically, applications
that offer the same types of features as we had in packages like TrueCrypt.

Although you can still locate the download for the latest working
version of tc, I was wondering if anyone was familiar with anything to replace it.
I see that there are two current packages, both closely based on the
TrueCrypt source, VeraCrypt and CipherShed, so curious if anyone knew
of anything outside these.

For anyone else who may also be interested in such a beastie, this is
what I've noticed so far. First, if you want an interface that seems
to be pretty much a copy of the TrueCrypt interface, which by the way,
was really accessible, VeraCrypt may be exactly what you want. It also
seems to have been updated in some of its methods of encryption, which
is always nice. I can't speak to the accessibility of using a feature
like full disk encryption, or how we may go about booting into the
encrypted installation, and how well that works with a screenreader,
but it's all supported here.

Unfortunately, although the features in CipherShed also look pretty
nice, it doesn't appear that the package has gotten outside its
testing phase yet, so, I wasn't able to find a stable download. Either
way, these types of tools are really neat and useful, so wanted to see
if anyone could throw some more ideas my way.

Thanks and blessings.










tech problems galore!

Beth
 

Hey yall,
Okay, not to sound all weird, but today, I have to tackle a few tech probs. First and foremost, the cell phone micro SD card isn't mounting properly inside a Moto E second gen Motorola phone. I'd like to say that I don't wanna deal with Motorola because of the off shore calling centers and the accents too deep and hard to understand, the cultural barriers designed to make us look like idiots, etc. It's a fact of reality that most of the big tech corporations have no clue what we blind people want and need, and that includes Microsoft and Motorola, Sprint and Cricket, E-Securitel, etc. There are too many of these corporations hiring folks all over the world, about 98% of them sighted, scripted English speakers, and total idiots when it comes to the blind. I try and explain, for instance, to Motorola that their financial hostage taking until they get my phone back is worthless because of SSI payments, and I'm sorry, but they want to go by their systems.
Second thing, Microsoft lower level technicians had no idea how a screen should read to a screen reader, oh my God that made me so mad I was this close to throwing away all hopes of getting another Windows laptop. Plus while I'm typing this, some of the keys don't respond properly, even when I depress them. I suspect they need to be cleaned. Ugh. So I'm gonna try and clean out my pc keys. Idk what is underneath some of them, but surprisingly, they're holding up. Probably dust bunnies and hair puffballs. Aha.
Anyway, the biggest tech thing is having to wait on Bard site access, and this lady wrote me back in a not so grammatically correct email stating that they're working on an internal server error. Oh God, those errors are starting to drive me nuts.
One suggesting factor I'd like to pose to the NLS board of whatever is to never just take the site down. There needs to be a real alternative so blind folks can still shop for books.
Speaking of books, I am pleased to review My Story by Elizabeth Smart. Does anyone want to check that one out provided Bard goes back up? It's a really cool and riveting book about Ms. Smart's kidnapping and trust me, the kidnapper was a crazed lunatic. The narrator makes it clear, trust me on that. You guys will like and literally be falling off the edge of your seat with the narrator Emily Maixner. I think that's her name. She did a great job.
I'll further review the book once all this technical hubbub is finished.
Beth

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Re: What happened

Stan Bobbitt
 

holy moly email! Lol I relinquish the title. Now that's A LOT of info!

-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 3:23 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,
Awww Stan's just a wee babe I've got him beat I now have 44 filters set up
at the gmail website to handle the different addresses of blindness related
email lists.
I'm a detail chaser and like to be in the know so I'm willing to sift
through the riffraff to mine for treasured gold of wisdom gained or the
chance to be a help to someone.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Wow 11? That must definitely be an impressive amount of mail.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Bobbitt" <sbobbitt@triad.rr.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened


Lol, TechTalk is my 11th list, granted at least 3 of them are nearly inactive ... it gets a bit hectic toward the end of the week and over the weekend when I'm out trying to earn a nickel and don't have time to wade through all those emails ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:42 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

I can certainly see Flor's point and it is really up to the individual to
decide to how many lists they are subscribed and if it is too much. LOL see
my previous comments about not personally subscribing to many lists at once.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened


Hi Flor,
All these things are a personal preference. It can be looked how you mean. But those of us who are going through hundreds and hundreds of messages, with an email client that supports no filters, this can be tedious. I just deal with it, though, I know how life could be easier. But then again, why do I subscribe, if I can't do it? So yeah, its really a personal preference, in my opinion.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:23:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Rajmund,
What myou may consider unnecessary, may be considered needful by the poster
who believes that they are in urgent need of help, or where the problem
being written about is a difficult one to solve unless or until one has
sought differing perspectives on how it might be solved. (Think of how it
was with a kernel32 error preventing a program from running Easy enough to
fix when you know the answer to it which fits tyour symtpoms precisely. But
if you don't know, you can't run this program on which your happiness with
your computer depends. .) And you may nopt be able to describe the situation
accurately enough yourself.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:55 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi Joseph,
My nightmare is to delete the exact same thing 6 damn times. And, when the
person sends something in response, they send it to like 3 lists. So that
makes it 8 more messages, than necessary.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:34 pm
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] What happened



Hi,
For me, the worst nightmare is when someone cross-posts the same message
to
multiple lists (I did ask people on the lists I moderate to not
cross-post,
or if they have to do that, either use BCC or ask the mods first).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:24 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,

Here's the thing. If I send something to this list, and the BlindTech
list,
but I only put one list into the to field at the time, there's literally
literally nothing the admins can do. If there are more than one lists at
the
time, that's different.

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L. Roberts <donald.roberts99@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened



Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the
moderation
and sometimes the lack thereof. I very much dislike the fact that there
are
more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the
place.
It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times
on
various lists. And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here.
This
prompts a question. Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross
posted messages? Setting up filters to do this would be a huge
undertaking.


Don Roberts



On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:

Welcome to the list Cristsbal. Indeed it is active. We currently have
about 98 members.

LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list
management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristsbal
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened


Wow, I don't' check the lists for a couple of days and apparently
everything goes poopoo.
So is this list actually active?
All sorts of drama on BlindTech.




Sent from a Braille Sense







Sent from a Braille Sense















Re: Threading messages, was: What happened

Carlos
 

If a spam filter blocks you based on your Email address,then your messages would not get through.

----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: Threading messages, was: [TechTalk] What happened


Hi,
No, I'm generally curious. It would be amusing if someone adds me to their spam, but I would still get through. Anyway, its interesting.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin.christensen@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:48:11 +1000
Subject: Re: Threading messages, was: [TechTalk] What happened

Looking at the web view of my GMail account I can see the messages
grouped, but only based on the time they were sent.

Using Thunderbird, which I am generally on the PC, many of the messages
are threaded but not the ones from the Braillenote / BrailleSense (See
my other message for a longer explaination).

Anyway, I should reiterate again, it's not a huge deal or problem as
such, initially I just wanted to ask and if we can resolve it all the
better, but not something for anyone to get too upset over :)

Quentin.

On 1/09/2015 8:44 PM, rajmund wrote:
Hi,
Hmm, could it be thunderbird, after all? I'm not sure about Quenton's
version, because groups.io hides the version numbers, but according to
the original message headers, I make it as thunderbird.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: yvind Lode <oyvind.lode@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:39:03 +0200
Subject: Re: Threading messages, was: [TechTalk] What happened

Hm, maybe I'm misunderstanding something but I see all these messages
grouped together as one conversation.
There is currently 7 messages in this thread and all are grouped
together in gmail.


On 1 September 2015 at 12:34, rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Quenton,
But, the same happens with the braille sense u2 from HIMS.
That's why I was
recommending to add a filter to my name, too, to make it less tedious. I
didn't take it personally or anything, don't worry about it. If you
do hear
back from HumanWare, please let me know what they say, I'm interested.
Never the less, though, this means I might get through spam filters? LOL,
that would be interesting.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin.christensen@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:29:20 +1000
Subject: Re: Threading messages, was: [TechTalk] What happened

Ah see, I sent this one before your last reply, so I hadn't got to
answering about setting a filter on you yet - hence why threading is
useful!

Actually I was going to say it's not that I don't want to see what you
have to say at all, more just easier to digest the whole group if all
the messages relating to a particular topic are grouped, that way I can
follow one thread of the conversation to it's end and then the next, or
simply mark an entire topic read at once if I'm not interested.

To be honest, I don't know why it happens but presumably a limitation or
setting in the Braillenote mail software. I asked a contact at
HumanWare who might know so I'll let you know if I get a response!

Regards

Quentin.

On 1/09/2015 7:27 PM, rajmund wrote:
LOL, I'm too important to be missed, it seems. LOL. Sorry, though, I
know that it can be a pain.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin.christensen@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:43:18 +1000
Subject: Re: Threading messages, was: [TechTalk] What happened

Yep, this one came through as an original message as well.

Apparently neither machine creates the "In-Reply-To" or
"X-Orig-Message-Id" header to keep the previous message ID to follow.

On 1/09/2015 5:09 PM, rajmund wrote:
Hi Quenton,
LOL, sorry about that. That particular message was sent from a
braille sense, with sense mailer ver 5.02. This is the apex.
Am I
still coming up as a new message?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin.christensen@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 16:39:41 +1000
Subject: Threading messages, was: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi Rajmund,

I must admit, I wasn't really paying attention to this thread, but
seeing so many individual messages (where most subjects are grouped by
the thread they are in for me at least) prompts me to ask, what e-Mail
client are you using? It does not seem to respect the message ID that
it's responding to and every message appears as a brand new message
rather than a reply.

Regards

Quentin.


On 1/09/2015 3:55 PM, rajmund wrote:
Hi,
LOL, a braillenote, and a braille sense. The latter has a spam
filter, but that's pretty much it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Tuesday, 1 September 2015 5:06 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened


Hi There,

What modern mail client or web mail interface does not support filtering?


On 8/31/2015 6:31 PM, rajmund wrote:
Hi Flor,
All these things are a personal preference. It can be looked how you
mean. But those of us who are going through hundreds and hundreds of
messages, with an email client that supports no filters, this can be
tedious. I just deal with it, though, I know how life could be
easier. But then again, why do I subscribe, if I can't do it? So
yeah, its really a personal preference, in my opinion.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:23:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Rajmund,
What myou may consider unnecessary, may be considered needful by the
poster
who believes that they are in urgent need of help, or where the problem
being written about is a difficult one to solve unless or until one has
sought differing perspectives on how it might be solved. (Think of
how it
was with a kernel32 error preventing a program from running Easy
enough to
fix when you know the answer to it which fits tyour symtpoms
precisely. But
if you don't know, you can't run this program on which your happiness
with
your computer depends. .) And you may nopt be able to describe the
situation
accurately enough yourself.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:55 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi Joseph,
My nightmare is to delete the exact same thing 6 damn times.
And,
when the
person sends something in response, they send it to like 3 lists. So that
makes it 8 more messages, than necessary.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:34 pm
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] What happened



Hi,
For me, the worst nightmare is when someone cross-posts the same message
to
multiple lists (I did ask people on the lists I moderate to not
cross-post,
or if they have to do that, either use BCC or ask the mods first).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:24 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,

Here's the thing. If I send something to this list, and the BlindTech
list,
but I only put one list into the to field at the time, there's literally
literally nothing the admins can do. If there are more than one lists at
the
time, that's different.

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L. Roberts <donald.roberts99@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened



Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the
moderation
and sometimes the lack thereof. I very much dislike the fact that there
are
more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all over the
place.
It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or six times
on
various lists. And I hope that those cross posts do not show up here.
This
prompts a question. Is there a utility which will somehow delete cross
posted messages? Setting up filters to do this would be a huge
undertaking.


Don Roberts



On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:

Welcome to the list Cristsbal. Indeed it is active. We currently have
about 98 members.

LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art of list
management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristsbal
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened


Wow, I don't' check the lists for a couple of days and apparently
everything goes poopoo.
So is this list actually active?
All sorts of drama on BlindTech.




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