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Re: braille printer recommendation needed

Jujube
 

What sort of criteria do you have? Enabling Technologies is known for their great embossers.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <angel.melissa0107@gmail.com
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 12:06:21 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] braille printer recommendation needed

Hello list. I need to purchase a braille printer and need some advice. Thanks.


Re: Trying to save money on cell phone plan.

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Capsys is based in France. Mr. Woodbridge lives in Down & Under, Great
Australia! Got to conquer that land some day by setting my wobbly feet on
its soils!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: new member with question on android or apple phones

Carolyn Arnold
 

You are right, Gerald, and we're still paying for it.
However, right now, I am having a hard time finding
something, where we can save at least $20 a month, despite
the fact that we're willing to replace both phones with
feature phones. I won't replace mine, if one of the plans
can take it from Verizon, but I think it is locked.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 11:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android
or apple phones


But once the battery in your IPhone 4S dies, and it will die
eventually, because no battery lasts indefinitely, that's
probably the end of it, because nobody will replace the
battery in an IPhone that's so old. And how much did this
one cent IPhone really cost? In other words, how much money
did you have to pay out in total over the length of the
Verizon contract?
$1200? $1500? No, that IPhone actually cost a lot more
than a penny, and was factored into the contract. There is
no such thing as a "free" or "almost free" IPhone. This is
just a marketing ploy to dupe unwary consumers.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android
or apple phones

We're operating just fine with an iPhone 4s, which I paid a
penny for when I got that Verizon contract, that,
thankfully, is gone now.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 7:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android
or apple phones

Carlos <carlos1106@gmx.com> wrote:
And please, let's not start screaming about Apple bashing.
Everyone is entitled to their personal opinions and I don't
consider constructive criticism bashing. I'm sure just as
many users have negative opinions about Android and they are
perfectly welcome to voice them here as well.

The biggest problem I have with both ecosystems is the
obsolescence factor. Is that even a word?
You drop down a big wad of cash that could go toward feeding
you and your cats on a smart phone. Then three years later,
it can't get updates because it's running a desiccated
version of Android or iOS. In order to stay current even
with security updates, you need the newest phone.
Now Android is a little better about this than Apple,
because there are so many options to choose from when it
comes to phones. You can get an ok-ish phone for under two
hundred dollars and still run the latest apps or OS version.
However, I think even the cheapest iPhone is 500 dollars. It
is totally money grubbing to make them obsolete in three
years. I can't see any other reason for this policy than to
squeeze more money out of the customers.
I'll give apple a little credit here and say they did a good
job with Voice Over. I don't know that it is functionally
better than Talkback on Android, however. I think the reason
so many blind people think the iPhone is the best thing
since sliced bread (what was the best thing before sliced
bread, does anybody know?) is because it's predictable, it
does what you tell it to when you tell it to, and you can
turn on voice over without sighted assistance and have your
phone up and running by yourself. I think you can just say,
voice over on, or something and bingo you have your screen
reader. There is a two finger gesture on Android which does
the same thing, but it's finicky and doesn't always work
unless you have your fingers very precisely placed. And not
all phones and tablets will see this gesture.
So, while Android is great for those who like choice and
freedom, Apple is great for those who like predictability
and something that is the same from device to device. Both
eco systems should try a little harder to limit that
obssolescence factor a bit.


braille printer recommendation needed

Melissa
 

Hello list. I need to purchase a braille printer and need some advice. Thanks.


Re: new member with question on android or apple phones

Carolyn Arnold
 

What is it going to do that other L.G. smart phones won't - have more storage space, larger screen maybe? I know some people like bigger screens.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 11:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Smart, it will be their flagship phone.

It isn't out just yet.





________________________________

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, Sep 5, 2017 10:41 AM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones



Is the LG V30 a smart or feature phone?

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 9:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Also with as much as I use my phone. I know a battery in a IPhone after for year would totally need to be replaced. I have only had my second 6s plus for a year after my first one had issues and I notice the battery not being nearly as good as it use to be. I guess it's good I am probably going to get the battery replaced before I upgrade sometime this year beginning of next. Would prefer sometime soon but I am not sure wich phone I want just yet. I will know more after the I phone release, but the lg v30 is calling my name as well because of all the really nice audio and video stuff it will be able to do.

On 9/5/17, Carlos <carlos1106@gmx.com> <mailto:carlos1106@gmx.com> wrote:

Well, the original poster did ask for opinions. And isn't sharing
opinions in part the point of the list?
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple
phones


I try to avoid this particular subject because I know there are as
many opinions as members. I just want to add a couple of things. First
of all, I have an old IPhone 4 which is seven years old still running
on the original battery so not sure why people thing being able to
change batteries is a big concern.
Second while there are Android phones which are less expensive, go
price a Pixel or a Nexus phone and you will find the cost right up
there with the IPhone.
Enough from me.
Marie


From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 3:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple
phones

I don't use either one and I don't know enough about the subject to
have a preference, ut one factor that hasn't been discussed is that
you can't replace batteries yourself in Apple portable devices. This
may be an important consideration if you intend to keep the device and
use it long enough that one or more battery replacements are required.

Depreciation may be a consideration but if, as is my impression, you
can get a good Android device for much less than an Apple portable
device, that may go some or a long way to mitigate the greater depreciation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 2:49 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple
phones

Good Morning:

Without a doubt, I would stay with Apple.
As stated above by others, if expense is an issue, Android phones
are less expensive. However, Apple is far more secure, has
significantly more accessible apps, is compatible with their other
devices, and do not depreciate nearly as much.
Have a great day.

Bob

On 9/4/17, janet gross <janet.harvard@outlook.com> <mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
> Welcome! This is a great tech list. What I would suggest as far as
> deciding between an iPhone and an Android, it really depends on
what apps
> you would want, or what you want to do with your phone. Apple’s
phones are
> just way to expensive, and Apple needs to do a lot more to improve
their
> devices. Android has come along way regarding accessibility. If you
> haven’t ever done any research on the Android phones, you just might
> consider it now. I have an iPhone as well, and I’ve worked with
it for
3 in
> a half years, and I flat out refuse to ever purchase another Apple
phone,
> but please don’t get me wrong, my phone is completely accessible,
but in my
> opinion, they’re not worth the money. Do yourself a big favor,
and do some
> serious researching before purchasing any iDevice.
> Janet
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
> Kathy Pingstock
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 5:51 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones
>
> Hi my name is Kathy, I am new to this list, I am looking to
upgrade my cell
> phone, currently I have a 6s apple cell phone some say get the galaxy
and
> others say apple iphone any suggestions or opinions?
>
> Kathy
>
>


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Re: Trying to save money on cell phone plan.

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

The Capsys phone, if memory serves, is around $900 and change. It comes
with a 2,700 mAh battery; not enough for me to walk from my office to my
post office box and back; I'd be forced to constantly charge my battery,
something I do now once every two days! Oh well, the battery is removable,
but that's not enough reason for me to write someone's paycheck.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: new member with question on android or apple phones

Bob
 

I'M Back:

It has been very interesting hearing from all the supporters of
Android. Obviously, the cost is the primary driver. However, in this
case, I guess that you get what you pay for.
There is no doubt that Apple phones are generally more expensive
than some Android phones. However, that is part of the problem.
There are many android phones ranging from very inexpensive to android
phones that are quite expensive. In addition, there are many flavors
of the android operationg system. There is very little consistency.
As far as security, There is no comparison between the Google play
store and the Apple app store. There is literally thousands of
android apps that contain viruses. I suggest that you checkout
komando.com relative to the Android app issue.
I recognize that many people are happy with their Android phones and
that is great. I personally prefer Apple phones due to more
stable/consistent operating systems, device compatibility with ipad
and macbooks, the flexibility of icloud that allow you to sync all
your devices,, better security both within the phone and their apps,
and finally, (lol), the batteries don't start fires.
Have a great day.

Bob


On 9/5/17, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com> wrote:
Gene, the earphone thingie is also going away in Android! Sad, if I dare
say so. But, some yesterday's wines still have them and most of them will
run at least Android Nougat; and, if rooted, they'll run Android Oreo!

Some Android phones don't have SD card slots. Example, all phones sold by
Google DO NOT have SD card slot. Samsung tried taking it away with the S6,
lost sales and reintroduced it with the S7 and later. Physical Home
Buttons
are also disappearing and are being replaced with Capacitive ones.

As stated, no need for a brand-new wine bottle to enjoy stuff in Android
land; yesterday's wines still taste pretty good.

In the period that I have been using and deploying anything Android, I have
never had to worry about installing a virus checker of any kind. I can't
say the same for Windows, I have one in there that runs constantly. The
opinions on the use of virus checkers in Android land are mixed, but, as
for
me, I don't need one, and I HAVE NO DESIRE to install one any time soon.
The security hooks are pretty good and Google has been a great police with
respect to viruses and or hacks! I have had nothing but very pleasant
experience and trouble-free operations on my Android toys!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado






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Re: new member with question on android or apple phones

Anna <asengillo@...>
 

Carolyn,

Hi my name is Anna and I too am new to the list.
Any data, documents, photos or videos I want to save gets sent up to google drive then on my pcs. I also email them to myself as well. No hooking up cables for transferring which I find much easier.

Best,
Anna Marie


Sent from my iPad

On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:

When my husband takes pictures on the iPhone, he finds it simpler to just email them to himself and work on them rather than hooking up the cable and trying to transfer them.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 7:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Transferring files generally requires the in my opinion rather clunky iTunes software. There are other third-party applications which will let you transfer files, but most of them are not very accessible and usually require that iTunes be installed at least once to obtain the necessary drivers. Transferring files on Android is as simple as connecting a USB cable or inserting a memory card into your computer and copying files in Explorer. More of Apple's proprietary/closed ecosystem policies which I personally despise. And please, let's not start screaming about Apple bashing. Everyone is entitled to their personal opinions and I don't consider constructive criticism bashing. I'm sure just as many users have negative opinions about Android and they are perfectly welcome to voice them here as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Also, I don't know enough about this to have an opinion, but I've seen discussions on various lists indicating that it isn't nearly as easy on Apple devices to transfer files from a computer to a device or the other way around.

When my husband takes pictures on the iPhone, he finds it simpler to just email them to himself and work on them rather than hooking up the cable and trying to transfer them.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 7:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Transferring files generally requires the in my opinion rather clunky iTunes software. There are other third-party applications which will let you transfer files, but most of them are not very accessible and usually require that iTunes be installed at least once to obtain the necessary drivers. Transferring files on Android is as simple as connecting a USB cable or inserting a memory card into your computer and copying files in Explorer. More of Apple's proprietary/closed ecosystem policies which I personally despise. And please, let's not start screaming about Apple bashing. Everyone is entitled to their personal opinions and I don't consider constructive criticism bashing. I'm sure just as many users have negative opinions about Android and they are perfectly welcome to voice them here as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Also, I don't know enough about this to have an opinion, but I've seen discussions on various lists indicating that it isn't nearly as easy on Apple devices to transfer files from a computer to a device or the other way around.

Also, no earphone jack on an IPhone. I gather there is a work around but I don't know how convenient it is.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@gmx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 5:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

It is also worth noting that you cannot use memory cards to expand storage on i devices.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

I don't use either one and I don't know enough about the subject to have a preference, ut one factor that hasn't been discussed is that you can't replace batteries yourself in Apple portable devices. This may be an important consideration if you intend to keep the device and use it long enough that one or more battery replacements are required.

Depreciation may be a consideration but if, as is my impression, you can get a good Android device for much less than an Apple portable device, that may go some or a long way to mitigate the greater depreciation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <mailto:buildyourownwealth@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 2:49 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Good Morning:

Without a doubt, I would stay with Apple.
As stated above by others, if expense is an issue, Android phones
are less expensive. However, Apple is far more secure, has
significantly more accessible apps, is compatible with their other
devices, and do not depreciate nearly as much.
Have a great day.

Bob

On 9/4/17, janet gross <janet.harvard@outlook.com <mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com> > wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
> Welcome! This is a great tech list. What I would suggest as far as
> deciding between an iPhone and an Android, it really depends on what apps
> you would want, or what you want to do with your phone. Apple’s phones are
> just way to expensive, and Apple needs to do a lot more to improve their
> devices. Android has come along way regarding accessibility. If you
> haven’t ever done any research on the Android phones, you just might
> consider it now. I have an iPhone as well, and I’ve worked with it for 3 in
> a half years, and I flat out refuse to ever purchase another Apple phone,
> but please don’t get me wrong, my phone is completely accessible, but in my
> opinion, they’re not worth the money. Do yourself a big favor, and do some
> serious researching before purchasing any iDevice.
> Janet
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Kathy Pingstock
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 5:51 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones
>
> Hi my name is Kathy, I am new to this list, I am looking to upgrade my cell
> phone, currently I have a 6s apple cell phone some say get the galaxy and
> others say apple iphone any suggestions or opinions?
>
> Kathy
>
>


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YOUR HEALTH IS YOUR MOST IMPORTANT PERSONAL ASSET!!!
TAKE THE CHALLENGE AT:
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Re: new member with question on android or apple phones

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Gene, the earphone thingie is also going away in Android! Sad, if I dare
say so. But, some yesterday's wines still have them and most of them will
run at least Android Nougat; and, if rooted, they'll run Android Oreo!

Some Android phones don't have SD card slots. Example, all phones sold by
Google DO NOT have SD card slot. Samsung tried taking it away with the S6,
lost sales and reintroduced it with the S7 and later. Physical Home Buttons
are also disappearing and are being replaced with Capacitive ones.

As stated, no need for a brand-new wine bottle to enjoy stuff in Android
land; yesterday's wines still taste pretty good.

In the period that I have been using and deploying anything Android, I have
never had to worry about installing a virus checker of any kind. I can't
say the same for Windows, I have one in there that runs constantly. The
opinions on the use of virus checkers in Android land are mixed, but, as for
me, I don't need one, and I HAVE NO DESIRE to install one any time soon.
The security hooks are pretty good and Google has been a great police with
respect to viruses and or hacks! I have had nothing but very pleasant
experience and trouble-free operations on my Android toys!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: new member with question on android or apple phones

Kathy Pingstock
 

Thank you all for all of your suggestions and your opinions.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:

When my husband takes pictures on the iPhone, he finds it simpler to just email them to himself and work on them rather than hooking up the cable and trying to transfer them.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 7:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Transferring files generally requires the in my opinion rather clunky iTunes software. There are other third-party applications which will let you transfer files, but most of them are not very accessible and usually require that iTunes be installed at least once to obtain the necessary drivers. Transferring files on Android is as simple as connecting a USB cable or inserting a memory card into your computer and copying files in Explorer. More of Apple's proprietary/closed ecosystem policies which I personally despise. And please, let's not start screaming about Apple bashing. Everyone is entitled to their personal opinions and I don't consider constructive criticism bashing. I'm sure just as many users have negative opinions about Android and they are perfectly welcome to voice them here as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Also, I don't know enough about this to have an opinion, but I've seen discussions on various lists indicating that it isn't nearly as easy on Apple devices to transfer files from a computer to a device or the other way around.

Also, no earphone jack on an IPhone. I gather there is a work around but I don't know how convenient it is.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@gmx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 5:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

It is also worth noting that you cannot use memory cards to expand storage on i devices.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

I don't use either one and I don't know enough about the subject to have a preference, ut one factor that hasn't been discussed is that you can't replace batteries yourself in Apple portable devices. This may be an important consideration if you intend to keep the device and use it long enough that one or more battery replacements are required.

Depreciation may be a consideration but if, as is my impression, you can get a good Android device for much less than an Apple portable device, that may go some or a long way to mitigate the greater depreciation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <mailto:buildyourownwealth@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 2:49 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Good Morning:

Without a doubt, I would stay with Apple.
As stated above by others, if expense is an issue, Android phones
are less expensive. However, Apple is far more secure, has
significantly more accessible apps, is compatible with their other
devices, and do not depreciate nearly as much.
Have a great day.

Bob

On 9/4/17, janet gross <janet.harvard@outlook.com <mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com> > wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
> Welcome! This is a great tech list. What I would suggest as far as
> deciding between an iPhone and an Android, it really depends on what apps
> you would want, or what you want to do with your phone. Apple’s phones are
> just way to expensive, and Apple needs to do a lot more to improve their
> devices. Android has come along way regarding accessibility. If you
> haven’t ever done any research on the Android phones, you just might
> consider it now. I have an iPhone as well, and I’ve worked with it for 3 in
> a half years, and I flat out refuse to ever purchase another Apple phone,
> but please don’t get me wrong, my phone is completely accessible, but in my
> opinion, they’re not worth the money. Do yourself a big favor, and do some
> serious researching before purchasing any iDevice.
> Janet
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Kathy Pingstock
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 5:51 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones
>
> Hi my name is Kathy, I am new to this list, I am looking to upgrade my cell
> phone, currently I have a 6s apple cell phone some say get the galaxy and
> others say apple iphone any suggestions or opinions?
>
> Kathy
>
>


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Re: Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

Gene
 

I just checked on my Windows 7 computer.  My memory was incorrect.  You can create a new account using the accounts item in the ribbons.  You can also create a new account in the item you get to from the menus.  You can do some things in the item you get to from the menus that you can't do in the account ribbon so it's good to know that both are available.  There is no difficulty in finding the accounts item.  Just open the ribbons with alt and right arrow until you get to accounts.  Then tab a few times to find the new account item.  Let everything read fully as you tab if you are unfamailiar with what is there.  If you don't, you may hear descriptive text read and if you assume that you aren't on the right item, you may miss it.  So when you tab in unfamiliar ribbons or dialogs, let everything read.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

There is an accounts item in the ribbons but you don't create accounts there.  To create accounts, see my previous message.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Adding email account to Windows Live Mail


        The new account submenu is on the Accounts    tab in WLM 2012.  If
you cannot find it on the ribbon menu, then I suggest enabling the JAWS
virtual ribbon feature, and then right arrowing to the Accounts tab and then
down arrowing to the New Account submenu where you can add a new account.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Spitz
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

I am using Windows Live Mail on my laptop with Windows 8.1 and Jaws
18.  I want to add a new email account but can't find the Add Account
option in the file menu.  Is there a series of keystrokes that would
get to the add account option?

Thanks,

Peter

 




Re: Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

Gene
 

I strongly recommend against using JAWS virtual ribbons or menus.  It's much better for a number of reasons to learn to use the real ribbons.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Adding email account to Windows Live Mail


        The new account submenu is on the Accounts    tab in WLM 2012.  If
you cannot find it on the ribbon menu, then I suggest enabling the JAWS
virtual ribbon feature, and then right arrowing to the Accounts tab and then
down arrowing to the New Account submenu where you can add a new account.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Spitz
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

I am using Windows Live Mail on my laptop with Windows 8.1 and Jaws
18.  I want to add a new email account but can't find the Add Account
option in the file menu.  Is there a series of keystrokes that would
get to the add account option?

Thanks,

Peter

 




Re: Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

Gene
 

There is an accounts item in the ribbons but you don't create accounts there.  To create accounts, see my previous message.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Adding email account to Windows Live Mail


        The new account submenu is on the Accounts    tab in WLM 2012.  If
you cannot find it on the ribbon menu, then I suggest enabling the JAWS
virtual ribbon feature, and then right arrowing to the Accounts tab and then
down arrowing to the New Account submenu where you can add a new account.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Spitz
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

I am using Windows Live Mail on my laptop with Windows 8.1 and Jaws
18.  I want to add a new email account but can't find the Add Account
option in the file menu.  Is there a series of keystrokes that would
get to the add account option?

Thanks,

Peter

 




Re: Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

Gerald Levy
 

The new account submenu is on the Accounts tab in WLM 2012. If you cannot find it on the ribbon menu, then I suggest enabling the JAWS virtual ribbon feature, and then right arrowing to the Accounts tab and then down arrowing to the New Account submenu where you can add a new account.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Spitz
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

I am using Windows Live Mail on my laptop with Windows 8.1 and Jaws
18. I want to add a new email account but can't find the Add Account
option in the file menu. Is there a series of keystrokes that would
get to the add account option?

Thanks,

Peter


Re: Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

Gene
 

Look in submenus.  There are two or three submenus in the menu.  In this case, the account item is in the options submenu.  That is the most logical place to look and that's where it is.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:03 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

I am using Windows Live Mail on my laptop with Windows 8.1 and Jaws
18.  I want to add a new email account but can't find the Add Account
option in the file menu.  Is there a series of keystrokes that would
get to the add account option?

Thanks,

Peter



Re: new member with question on android or apple phones

Gerald Levy
 

But once the battery in your IPhone 4S dies, and it will die eventually, because no battery lasts indefinitely, that's probably the end of it, because nobody will replace the battery in an IPhone that's so old. And how much did this one cent IPhone really cost? In other words, how much money did you have to pay out in total over the length of the Verizon contract? $1200? $1500? No, that IPhone actually cost a lot more than a penny, and was factored into the contract. There is no such thing as a "free" or "almost free" IPhone. This is just a marketing ploy to dupe unwary consumers.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

We're operating just fine with an iPhone 4s, which I paid a
penny for when I got that Verizon contract, that,
thankfully, is gone now.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 7:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android
or apple phones

Carlos <carlos1106@gmx.com> wrote:
And please, let's not start screaming about Apple bashing.
Everyone is entitled to their personal opinions and I don't
consider constructive criticism bashing. I'm sure just as
many users have negative opinions about Android and they are
perfectly welcome to voice them here as well.

The biggest problem I have with both ecosystems is the
obsolescence factor. Is that even a word?
You drop down a big wad of cash that could go toward feeding
you and your cats on a smart phone. Then three years later,
it can't get updates because it's running a desiccated
version of Android or iOS. In order to stay current even
with security updates, you need the newest phone.
Now Android is a little better about this than Apple,
because there are so many options to choose from when it
comes to phones. You can get an ok-ish phone for under two
hundred dollars and still run the latest apps or OS version.
However, I think even the cheapest iPhone is 500 dollars. It
is totally money grubbing to make them obsolete in three
years. I can't see any other reason for this policy than to
squeeze more money out of the customers.
I'll give apple a little credit here and say they did a good
job with Voice Over. I don't know that it is functionally
better than Talkback on Android, however. I think the reason
so many blind people think the iPhone is the best thing
since sliced bread (what was the best thing before sliced
bread, does anybody know?) is because it's predictable, it
does what you tell it to when you tell it to, and you can
turn on voice over without sighted assistance and have your
phone up and running by yourself. I think you can just say,
voice over on, or something and bingo you have your screen
reader. There is a two finger gesture on Android which does
the same thing, but it's finicky and doesn't always work
unless you have your fingers very precisely placed. And not
all phones and tablets will see this gesture.
So, while Android is great for those who like choice and
freedom, Apple is great for those who like predictability
and something that is the same from device to device. Both
eco systems should try a little harder to limit that
obssolescence factor a bit.


Re: new member with question on android or apple phones

Chris G <jedikent@...>
 

Smart, it will be their flagship phone.

It isn't out just yet.




From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, Sep 5, 2017 10:41 AM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Is the LG V30 a smart or feature phone? 

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 9:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Also with as much as I use my phone. I know a battery in a IPhone after for year would totally need to be replaced. I have only had my second 6s plus for a year after my first one had issues and I notice the battery not being nearly as good as it use to be. I guess it's good I am probably going to get the battery replaced before I upgrade sometime this year beginning of next. Would prefer sometime soon but I am not sure wich phone I want just yet. I will know more after the I phone release, but the lg v30 is calling my name as well because of all the really nice audio and video stuff it will be able to do.

On 9/5/17, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Well, the original poster did ask for opinions.  And isn't sharing 
opinions in part the point of the list?
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Marie
  To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
  Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple 
phones


  I try to avoid this particular subject because I know there are as 
many opinions as members. I just want to add a couple of things. First 
of all, I have an old IPhone 4 which is seven years old still running 
on the original battery so not sure why people thing being able to 
change batteries is a big concern.
  Second while there are Android phones which are less expensive, go 
price a Pixel or a Nexus phone and you will find the cost right up 
there with the IPhone.
  Enough from me.
  Marie


  From: Gene
  Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 3:35 AM
  To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
  Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple 
phones

  I don't use either one and I don't know enough about the subject to 
have a preference, ut one factor that hasn't been discussed is that 
you can't replace batteries yourself in Apple portable devices.  This 
may be an important consideration if you intend to keep the device and 
use it long enough that one or more battery replacements are required.

  Depreciation may be a consideration but if, as is my impression, you 
can get a good Android device for much less than an Apple portable 
device, that may go some or a long way to mitigate the greater depreciation.

  Gene
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Bob
  Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 2:49 AM
  To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
  Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple 
phones

  Good Morning:

    Without a doubt, I would stay with Apple.
    As stated above by others, if expense is an issue, Android phones
  are less expensive.  However, Apple is far more secure, has
  significantly more accessible apps, is compatible with their other
  devices, and do not depreciate nearly as much.
    Have a great day.

            Bob

  On 9/4/17, janet gross <janet.harvard@...> wrote:
  > Hi Kathy,
  > Welcome!  This is a great tech list.  What I would suggest as far as
  > deciding between an iPhone and an Android, it really depends on 
what apps
  > you would want, or what you want to do with your phone.  Apple’s 
phones are
  > just way to expensive, and Apple needs to do a lot more to improve 
their
  > devices.  Android has come along way regarding accessibility.  If you
  > haven’t ever done any research on the Android phones, you just might
  > consider it now.  I have an iPhone as well, and I’ve worked with 
it for
3 in
  > a half years, and I flat out refuse to ever purchase another Apple 
phone,
  > but please don’t get me wrong, my phone is completely accessible, 
but in my
  > opinion, they’re not worth the money.  Do yourself a big favor, 
and do some
  > serious researching before purchasing any iDevice.
  > Janet
  >
  > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On 
Behalf Of
  > Kathy Pingstock
  > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 5:51 PM
  > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
  > Subject: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones
  >
  > Hi my name is Kathy, I am new to this list, I am looking to 
upgrade my cell
  > phone, currently I have a 6s apple cell  phone   some say get the galaxy
and
  > others say apple iphone any suggestions or opinions?
  >
  > Kathy
  >
  >


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Re: Accessible accounting software

Chris G <jedikent@...>
 

Their support is great.  When I have needed them they were fast and responsive.

I have also had conversations with them regarding accessibility.




From: Peter Spitz
Sent: Tuesday, Sep 5, 2017 10:05 AM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible accounting software

Chris:

Thanks for that, don't know why I couldn't find it on my own!  I also
emailed their tech support with another question and got a response
back within 30 minutes.  Pretty impressive so far.  For my needs, $15
a month may the the right plan too.

On 9/5/17, Chris G <jedikent@...> wrote:
When at your home page, there is a link that says "pricing and upgrade."

You can also find it in "my account."




------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* Peter Spitz
*Sent:* Monday, Sep 4, 2017 11:33 AM EST
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io
*Subject:* [TechTalk] Accessible accounting software

I am trying out the Freshbooks trial but can't find where they list
the actual cost of using the product when the trial ends.  So far,
though, it seems pretty accessible.  Thanks for the advice!

On 9/2/17, Chris G <jedikent@...> wrote:
You get a 30 day trial to set it up and play with it.

You can track time and expenses, manage, bill clients, send invoices,
receive
payments online through credit card, paypal and they can even mail out
your invoices should your clients want paper.
You can even automatically import your business credit, checking
accounts to have
expenses automatically catagorized for you and upload images of paper
receipts.
The iOS and Android apps are accessible as well as the web interface.

When it is time for taxes, just print out expense reports and everything
is nice and categorized.  There are lots of things it can do, the link
was for you to explore and check out its features.

Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 19:37:36 -0500
"Rob" <captinlogic@...> wrote:

Chris G <jedikent@...> wrote:
Check out Freshbooks cloud accounting.
What can you tell us about this.  What is the interface like. What
pitfalls does it have. A little more info than just a link please.


Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
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Adding email account to Windows Live Mail

Peter Spitz
 

I am using Windows Live Mail on my laptop with Windows 8.1 and Jaws
18. I want to add a new email account but can't find the Add Account
option in the file menu. Is there a series of keystrokes that would
get to the add account option?

Thanks,

Peter


Re: new member with question on android or apple phones

Carolyn Arnold
 

Is the LG V30 a smart or feature phone?

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 9:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones

Also with as much as I use my phone. I know a battery in a IPhone after for year would totally need to be replaced. I have only had my second 6s plus for a year after my first one had issues and I notice the battery not being nearly as good as it use to be. I guess it's good I am probably going to get the battery replaced before I upgrade sometime this year beginning of next. Would prefer sometime soon but I am not sure wich phone I want just yet. I will know more after the I phone release, but the lg v30 is calling my name as well because of all the really nice audio and video stuff it will be able to do.

On 9/5/17, Carlos <carlos1106@gmx.com> wrote:
Well, the original poster did ask for opinions. And isn't sharing
opinions in part the point of the list?
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple
phones


I try to avoid this particular subject because I know there are as
many opinions as members. I just want to add a couple of things. First
of all, I have an old IPhone 4 which is seven years old still running
on the original battery so not sure why people thing being able to
change batteries is a big concern.
Second while there are Android phones which are less expensive, go
price a Pixel or a Nexus phone and you will find the cost right up
there with the IPhone.
Enough from me.
Marie


From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 3:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple
phones

I don't use either one and I don't know enough about the subject to
have a preference, ut one factor that hasn't been discussed is that
you can't replace batteries yourself in Apple portable devices. This
may be an important consideration if you intend to keep the device and
use it long enough that one or more battery replacements are required.

Depreciation may be a consideration but if, as is my impression, you
can get a good Android device for much less than an Apple portable
device, that may go some or a long way to mitigate the greater depreciation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 2:49 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple
phones

Good Morning:

Without a doubt, I would stay with Apple.
As stated above by others, if expense is an issue, Android phones
are less expensive. However, Apple is far more secure, has
significantly more accessible apps, is compatible with their other
devices, and do not depreciate nearly as much.
Have a great day.

Bob

On 9/4/17, janet gross <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
> Welcome! This is a great tech list. What I would suggest as far as
> deciding between an iPhone and an Android, it really depends on
what apps
> you would want, or what you want to do with your phone. Apple’s
phones are
> just way to expensive, and Apple needs to do a lot more to improve
their
> devices. Android has come along way regarding accessibility. If you
> haven’t ever done any research on the Android phones, you just might
> consider it now. I have an iPhone as well, and I’ve worked with
it for
3 in
> a half years, and I flat out refuse to ever purchase another Apple
phone,
> but please don’t get me wrong, my phone is completely accessible,
but in my
> opinion, they’re not worth the money. Do yourself a big favor,
and do some
> serious researching before purchasing any iDevice.
> Janet
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
> Kathy Pingstock
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 5:51 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] new member with question on android or apple phones
>
> Hi my name is Kathy, I am new to this list, I am looking to
upgrade my cell
> phone, currently I have a 6s apple cell phone some say get the galaxy
and
> others say apple iphone any suggestions or opinions?
>
> Kathy
>
>


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