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Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


I just signed up for a credit freeze for all 3 bureaus I was not charged anything.
Not sure why.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Janet
 

Jeff,

Why would a friend/tutor need to spend 6 hours setting up your laptop? Didn’t the store where you bought it from at least set it up? If you live close to the store where you bought it, can’t you just take it back to the store? Although, I don’t know where you purchased it from.  I understand you purchased a in home warranty, but didn’t the store give you a 90 day warranty as well?  

Janet

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

 

 

Most manufacturers these days have the ability to remotely access your computer and perform this troubleshooting and determine thenselves what the problem is. It doesn’t surprise me that Dell does not have this ability. Once the premiere computer company, they have been surpassed by the entire industry. I have owned Lenovo computers for some years now, and they have this ability and the in-home support as well. I wish you luck with this issue.

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

 

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Gene
 

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762




Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf143 Million People #article

heather albright
 

Yes, notice how the top ceos sold all their stock and than they let the rest of us know about! Their has to be a nice hot place in hell for those types of people! Heather

 

Heather Albright
Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
ham call sign:
kd5cbl
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...

 

From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762



 


Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Janet
 

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Gene
 

There are a lot of satisfied blind Dell owners.  Before deciding what to do or not to do in terms of purchasing a computer, the only way to make an informed, and not an emotional decision, is to try to find out what other companies do in terms of sending people to service a machine.  As I said, I would never waste money buying a service agreement from any company and if you don't do that, this problem might be moot.  Dell or other companies might be very happy to send a tech out if you were paying for the specific visit and not having the visit be made under extended warranty. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

It’s just my opinion, but I think your big mistake was in buying a Dell.  By the way: they can do more stuff, because they set up my whole computer and got it running and stuff.  As far as just replacing parts, maybe they are not supposed to do more, but some of them do.  A guy who came to replace a keyboard in a laptop for me also got rid of the box that demands a password, and also got rid of that MSN messenger that was on there.  Maybe he didn’t get rid of it, but he made them so they didn’t pop up.  When I needed a defective drive replaced, the guy set up my email and I think he put back some of the stuff that was in there on the old drive.  That was not the same guy.  So, it depends on how strictly they stick to the rules.  But yes, I believe you did get screwed if that computer was brand new and it was like that.  Pam.
 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:44 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out
 

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Gene
 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Michael Boyd <mike122061@...>
 

 

Most manufacturers these days have the ability to remotely access your computer and perform this troubleshooting and determine thenselves what the problem is. It doesn’t surprise me that Dell does not have this ability. Once the premiere computer company, they have been surpassed by the entire industry. I have owned Lenovo computers for some years now, and they have this ability and the in-home support as well. I wish you luck with this issue.

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

 

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


Re: Navigating headings in word?

Gene
 

And in NVDA, the command is NVDA key space to toggle the equivalent of browse mode on and off in Word.  By default, the NVDA key is either insert, you can use either one.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating headings in word?

If using JAWS or Window-Eyes, press insert-z first,then h or shift h.
Press insert-z to stop.

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On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:38:10 -0400
"Kliph Sr" <kliph.sr@...> wrote:

> How do you jump by headings in word without adding and H to the text?
>
>

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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Gene
 

If you tell us what problem you are having, you might get help.  As far as purchased warranties are concerned, I consider them a waste of money for computers.  If a computer is going to develop problems, it is far more likely to do so early in its use, I think the figure is within 200 hours.  So use the computer enough during the free warranty period to see if it develops any problems.  Beyond that point, problems may develop but they are much less likely and you probably won't have problems of a hardware nature for many years, perhaps longer. 
 
But as I said, whatever problems you are having with the warranty now, if you tell us the problem or problems you are having with the computer, list members may be able to help.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:44 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


Re: Navigating headings in word?

Quentin Christensen
 

If using NVDA, press NVDA+spacebar (the NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK) to put NVDA in Browse mode, then you can use H to jump between headings, K to jump between links, A to move between annotations as well as NVDA+f7 to open the elements link.  See https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#toc54 for more details.

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Kliph Sr <kliph.sr@...> wrote:
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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Pamela Dominguez
 

It’s just my opinion, but I think your big mistake was in buying a Dell.  By the way: they can do more stuff, because they set up my whole computer and got it running and stuff.  As far as just replacing parts, maybe they are not supposed to do more, but some of them do.  A guy who came to replace a keyboard in a laptop for me also got rid of the box that demands a password, and also got rid of that MSN messenger that was on there.  Maybe he didn’t get rid of it, but he made them so they didn’t pop up.  When I needed a defective drive replaced, the guy set up my email and I think he put back some of the stuff that was in there on the old drive.  That was not the same guy.  So, it depends on how strictly they stick to the rules.  But yes, I believe you did get screwed if that computer was brand new and it was like that.  Pam.
 

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:44 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out
 

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Life Lock Protection

Gene
 

I haven't looked at enough reviews to draw any conclusions.  I looked at one site where Life Lock was listed in the top ten protection companies.  I'm not recommending or not recommending them.  But whatever problems they may have or have had, I've never heard of them having a security breach nor have I seen reports of customers being subject to identity theft because of Life lock misconduct.  There may be, or have been reason for concern, judging by the article and we don't know what Life Lock has done in the last two years.  the fine was assessed in 2015.  The article raises questions but I'd want more information before forming an opinion about the company now.  Based on the enormous hack of Equifax and the fact that Equifax had two other hacks in something like the last year and didn't bother to take proper precautions, leads me to very seriously question whether it is correct or fair or reasonable to equate the two companies' conduct.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection

 
What is disturbing about the fine against Lifelock is the size of the fine.  The FTC wouldn’t  have levied a fine of $100 million if Lifelock had only commited a minor violation.   Lifelock is not a Fortune 500 company by any stretch, and under a judge’s ruling must pay most of this fine to settle a class action lawsuit against it.  This raises serious questions about its credibility, trustworthiness and long-term viability.  But even if Lifelock ultimately pays this fine and promises to reform its business practices, what is to stop it from reverting to its old ways in view of the current administration’s pro-business, anti-consumer policies? I certainly wouldn’t trust a company to protect me against identity fraud if it itself has been the target of serious fraud allegations by the leading government consumer watchdog agency.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection
 
I just read the article and it raises points well worth considering.  Wheteher other companies are better in respect to what has been alleged against Life Lock, I don't know.  but I see with interest that the article gives, the same adivse as I did, do searches for companies using words or phrases like those given in the article.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection
 
I wouldn't just base my decision on one violation.  I haven't researched this to any extent, but from the little I've read, it appears that Life Lock is more thorough than other services.  Is the extra thoroughness important in protecting your credit?  I don't know.  And also, Life Lock has three plans.  The cheapest plan may not be more thorough than the other services may be.  But when you ask if they are more trustworthy than Equifax, that question implies that you think that they will somehow misuse your data.  I haven't read the article yet, but I've never heard of a breach at Life Lock and whatever they were fined for is probably minor when compared with what Equifax did.  Equifax exposed personal information on half the population of The United States. 
 
I haven't done this, but you can probably get interesting information and comparisons by doing a google search for something like best credit protection company.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection
 
 
Be careful about signing up with Lifelock.  They were fined a whopping $100 million by the FTC for engaging in deceptive consumer practices and other violations.  So are they any more trustworthy than Equifax?  It’s up to you to decide whether paying for their services is worthwhile.  See this article:
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection
 

The other thing is that they give you a date to come back to register.

The message I got said Life Lock, but who knows what they are really doing.

They are flying by the seat of their pence.

 

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection

 

I should clarify that the first part of my comments were for anyone interested but I was responding to Cristóbal's comment that you can put any information in and you are told that you are affected.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:05 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection

 

If you fool around and put in any name and any information, it won't tell you are impacted if it thinks you arent'  Have you read the earlier messages in the thread?  Yesterday and perhaps again today, I said that I was told that they don't think my information is impacted.  They don't say it definitely isn't.  They say they don't think it is.  That leaves them wiggle room in case they are wrong.  With fifty percent of the public affected, f course you are going to get a lot of affected indications.  Every time you enter fictitious information, there's a fifty-fifty chance you will enter an affected number.

 

Also, I really doubt that Life Lock is the company they contracted with to provide protection.  If it is, I'd be interested in knowing. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection

 

I put in my information, and my wife’s information, and it said we were not affected, but we can still get the Life Lock protection.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 3:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] LifeLock Protection

 

You can apparently put any name and any sequence of numbers and it will tell you that you’re impacted. IN short, regardless of what it says, take steps to lock your info down.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 6:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] LifeLock Protection

 

You can go to the Equifax site and put in you name and last 6 digits of SS number and it will tell you if your information was effected. I did this and mine was.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 8:54 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] LifeLock Protection

 

How does one know if he is protected or has been invaded?  Only after some such event has occurred, I suspect.  I made a killing in the late nineties over that Y2K scare.  Never had to raise a finger--but for a couple installations of "protection" software.  How BOGUS!!!

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:45 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data Of 143 Million People

 

Hi Lenron,

 

Lifelock has at least 3 different plans, depending on how much protection you want or think you need.

 

See which plan fits your individual needs.

 

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Alerts If We Detect...
Your Personal Info on Service and Credit Applications

 

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Credit Monitoring

 

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The credit scores provided are VantageScore 3.0 credit scores based on data from Equifax, Experian and TransUnion respectively. Any One-Bureau VantageScore
mentioned is based on Equifax data only. Third parties use many different types of credit scores and are likely to use a different type of credit score
to assess your creditworthiness.

 

One Bureau1
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Monthly Credit Score Tracking

 

The credit score provided is a VantageScore 3.0 credit score based on Equifax data. Third parties use many different types of credit scores and are likely
to use a different type of credit score to assess your creditworthiness.

 

One Bureau1

 

The credit scores provided are VantageScore 3.0 credit scores based on data from Equifax, Experian and TransUnion respectively. Any one bureau VantageScore
mentioned is based on Equifax data only. Third parties use many different types of credit scores and are likely to use a different type of credit score
to assess your creditworthiness.

 

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complete.

 

2 For LifeLock Ultimate Plus™ Three-Bureau Credit Monitoring, credit monitoring from Experian and TransUnion will take several days to begin.

 

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Company, Inc. for NY State members). The Master Policy provides coverage for Stolen Funds Reimbursement and Personal Expense Compensation, each with limits
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lawyers and experts under the Service Guarantee. Please see the policy terms, conditions and exclusions at 
LifeLock.com/legal
article end

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Lenron

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 5:00 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data Of 143 Million People

 

After this I am wondering what would be the cost of life lock. It's
bad enough the three credit report scores is pretty much what controls
us getting anything, now who knows what problems we could have. I know
there is a couple things on my credit report that shouldn't be that I
am trying to figure out how to get rid of and something that I payed
off but it's still showing as an active account. It's madness I tell
you. There is no way I am trusting equal fax. To mounter my credit
when they are a big part of the reason we are in this situation in the
first place. What they really should be doing is offering credit
repair services to anyone that wants to get items sorted that don't
seem to be things that they had.

On 9/9/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Not only that, a year's monitoring isn't sufficient.  Once your information
> is in the wild, it may circulate and be used for years.  Use a real credit
> monitoring service like Life Lock and keep the service indefinitely.  You
> should have such a service even if you haven't had your information exposed
> in the Equifax scandal.  It should be a form of protection everyone has.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: felix1063@...
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:50 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
> Of 143 Million People
>
>
> It has been announced by news organizations that Equalfax will monitor your
> credit for one year.  After that, they will automatically charge you. PLUS
> you have to waive all lawsuits that you may have with them in the future.
> The news services say that Equalfax is attempting to make money off of those
> who have suffered with the loss of their data.  BE CAREFUL!!!
>
>
>
> --jeff
>
>


--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Janet
 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762





Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Gerald Levy
 

 
Yes, I had the same experience when my previous Dell desktop needed warranty repair.  Even though I suspected that the local hard drive was dying,I was told that I would have to first perform some kind of proprietary diagnostic test to confirm this, which required sighted help, before they would send a service technician to my home to fix it.  Fortunately, it was a Sunday and so my cousin, who is an information technology specialist was available and drove all the way from Long Island to perform the diagnostics for me while being guided over the phone by a Dell customer support agent.  When they were satisfied that the hard drive was indeed on its last legs,, they scheduled an appointment for a technician to visit me the following day to replace it.  All the technician did was replace it and reinstall the XP operating system.  I had to get my tech savvy friend to visit me all the way from Brooklyn to restore the image backup I had stored on an external Seagate portable drive to the new local hard drive because the procedure required sighted assistance, and the Dell technician claimed that company policy prohibited him from doing this for me.
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:44 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out
 

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


Re: Navigating headings in word?

Chris Grabowski <skywalker@...>
 

If using JAWS or Window-Eyes, press insert-z first,then h or shift h.
Press insert-z to stop.

Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:38:10 -0400
"Kliph Sr" <kliph.sr@icloud.com> wrote:

How do you jump by headings in word without adding and H to the text?

Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Jeffrey Schwartz
 

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


Navigating headings in word?

Kliph
 

How do you jump by headings in word without adding and H to the text?


Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data Of 143 Million People #article

Lenron
 

using fire fox and nvda latest version of both. I verified with the I
am not a robot button first. Then entered my info. It doesn't think I
have been impacted. Love how they can say they don't think. lol

On 9/10/17, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Thanks Gene, first time went right through today.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 12:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People

The page is:
https://trustedidpremier.com/eligibility/eligibility.html

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 2:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People

I looked on the Equifax site but didn't spot th3e link being discussed.
Could you please pass it along...thanks

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 12:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People

I should clarify that when I said "If you try Chrome," I was addressing you
specifically, Gerald, since you were considering trying it. For all
readers, you might want to try verifying yourself, whatever browser you are
using before entering information and submitting the form. Also, of course,
if you intend to use the audio challenge, it doesn't matter if you
experiment unless you want to try to be automatically verified with fewer
attempts.

Gene


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People

I'm not sure what accounts for the differences. I tried a number of times
and was verified most times earlier in the day. Now, I tried three times
with Firefox and wasn't verified. then I tried with Chrome and I was
verified the first time. So perhaps there are factors we aren't taking into
account that may affect this. Perhaps Internet conditions make a
difference. Perhaps the browser being used makes a difference. Perhaps
whether you varify yourself before or after filling in the information makes
a difference. There may be too many variables to test properly for in this
kind of setting, where different people may test in different ways, with
different providers and different Internet conditions. If you try Chrome,
try verifying yourself first, then fill in the information. Varifying
yourself first may, for some reason, make verification more likely.
However, this can't be done on a lot of sites because the verification times
out. There isn't much information to enter here so if you do so reasonably
quickly, the verification won't time out. I don't know how much time you
have. Don't hurry to the point where you make mistakes, just don't be
leisurely.

Having said all that, I've been verified on another site where I had much
more information to enter so I had to wait to verify my self until
immediately before I submitted the form. Sometimes, I received an audio
challenge, sometimes, I was verified.

Gene
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From: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 2:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People


I just tried it ten times in a row with Firefox, and each and every time I
hit the space bar on the robot check box, I immediately got the
message,”opening verification challenge”, followed by the get an audio
challenge button. In each case, I reloaded the Getting Started page from
scratch from the previous page.

Gerald



From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 3:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People

It has nothing to do with knowledge. It is a system that uses
characteristics of how people as opposed to bots, work on web sites to
determine if someone is human or not. The system eveluates human as opposed
to machine ways of working with sites. Why it may work for some people and
not others, if that's true, is a mystery, but it has nothing to do with
knowledge and experience.

If you had said, I tried it five times with Firefox and five times with
Chrome, that would have been entirely different and it would have supported
your case. You gave no information about what you have done and what your
experience has been. I don't recall Mike saying that he tried five times
with this browser and five times with that browser either. I don't remember
Mike giving any information that he had experimented or how. I don't know
whether Mike tested the captcha system systematically so I don't know if
your statement is correct. There may be reasons that it works for some
people and not for others but until people test systematically, trying the
system four or five times to see if they are verified with one browser and
then four or five times with another, there is no way to evaluate such
claims. and for testing, you don't have to fill out any information. Just
go to a page with such a check box, see if you are verified when you try to
check it, then close and open the page and test again. But you have to test
many times, I'd say about five, in order to determine how often you tend to
be verified.

While I doubt your statement is true, that different people who follow the
same procedure will get different results because of how the system is
designed, actually testing is the only way to know.

I press the space bar on the check box when I am in browse mode. While I
doubt that makes a difference, it may so, and for uniformity of testing,
having browse mode on or the equivalent, might be a way to make the testing
as standardized as possible.

This isn't just something to dispute about. If there are ways, having
browse mode on, for example, that makes the system work much better, it
would be of real value to determine such things. This is a widely used
captcha system and if we can have people test it and try to figure out if
there are ways to make it work more often, that would be of potential help
to many people.

Gene
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From: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 12:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People


AndI’m telling you in no uncertain terms that this does not work for me and
probably doesn’t work for other people, either. Ass soon as I hit the space
bar on the I am not a robot check box, I immediately get the message,
“Opening verification challenge”, followed by the get an audio challenge
button, no matter how many times I try. It ddid not work for Mike D., and
he is as knowledgeable as anyone on this list.

Gerald



From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 12:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People

I get it perfectly. Please give me some credit for having some
intelligence. I'm telling you that, in my tests with both Chrome and
Firefox, if I check the check box and wait about five seconds, I hear that I
am verified half or more of the times I try this. Another list member
yesterday, reported that she was verified as well. I did nothing but chec
the check box with the space bar. I do not press the continue button until
I let about five seconds go by and I don't press it until I hear the
announcement, you are verified. As I've said repeatedly, If you try filling
in the information requested and checking the check box, you should be
verified after trying this a number of times, quite possibly not more than
two or three times. If you aren't verified the first time, close the site,
then go to the page again and go through the procedure again. Try this a
number of times if necessary.

Gene
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From: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 11:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People


Gene, you just don’t get it. Using Firefox, I enter my last name and last
six digits of my SSN and then hit space bar on the “I am not a robot” check
box and then activate the Continue button. Each time, I am confronted with
a new audio challenge, which I can’t understand. And after three tries, I
get an error message which prevents me from trying again. How many times do
I have to goe through this? I’ve tried nine ways to Sunday. Maybe Windows
10 users can skip the audio challenge, but I’m running Windows 7, so it
seems that no matter how many times I try I cannot get past the audio
challenge. Just because you are able to get verified without going through
the audio challenge doesn’t mean that it works for everyone else.

Gerald



From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 9:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People

First, you don't use your full social security number. You only use the
last six digits.

Second, As I said yesterday, if you fill in the information a number of
times and try to verify yourself a number of times, you will probably be
varified within two or three times of going through the procedure without a
visual challenge. Along with my tests of the same system on a different
site, another list member reported that she was verified without having to
take a visual challenge. Affter I explained hw to verify yourself yesterday
and another list member added to the evidence I presented that this will
work unless your browser has a problem that prevents it from working, why
are you spending time working with help lines and continuing to write
messages implying that you can't do this yourself? In the same amount of
time you were dealing with the help line, you could have tried going through
the procedure and verifying yourself perhaps six or eight or more times.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:54 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People


I just called the Equifax helpline (866-447-7559) and was actually connected
to a live English-speaking agent after waiting on hold for only ten
minutes. But that's where the good news ends. She explained that the only
way to verify whether my personal information had been compromised would be
to check their web site. I told her that I had visited their web site but
that because I was blind and could not understand the audio challenge, I
could not log in. Well, tough noogies, she basically told me. We cannot
perform verification by phone. Your only alternative would be to designate
a durable power of attorney to submit an application to us by mail on your
behalf with your personal information. Are you serious, I replied? Do you
expect me to send my personal information, including complete SSN through
the mail, to a PO Box, no less? No way, Jose! And suppose I don't have a
trusted family member who can serve as my power of attorney? Sorry, those
are the rules, she insisted. So it appears that unless you can get past the
audio challenge on the Equifax web site, or you have a trusted sighted
family member who can log on for you and get past the captcha or audio
challenge, you are essentially out of luck. So not only has Equifax
compromised the personal information of millions of Americans, it is also
probably violating the ADA by failing to provide a satisfactory alternative
means for disabled consumers toverify whether their personal information has
been compromised.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Lenron
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
Of 143 Million People

After this I am wondering what would be the cost of life lock. It's bad
enough the three credit report scores is pretty much what controls us
getting anything, now who knows what problems we could have. I know there is
a couple things on my credit report that shouldn't be that I am trying to
figure out how to get rid of and something that I payed off but it's still
showing as an active account. It's madness I tell you. There is no way I am
trusting equal fax. To mounter my credit when they are a big part of the
reason we are in this situation in the first place. What they really should
be doing is offering credit repair services to anyone that wants to get
items sorted that don't seem to be things that they had.

On 9/9/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Not only that, a year's monitoring isn't sufficient. Once your
information is in the wild, it may circulate and be used for years.
Use a real credit monitoring service like Life Lock and keep the
service indefinitely. You should have such a service even if you
haven't had your information exposed in the Equifax scandal. It
should be a form of protection everyone has.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: felix1063@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed
Personal Data Of 143 Million People


It has been announced by news organizations that Equalfax will monitor
your
credit for one year. After that, they will automatically charge you.
PLUS
you have to waive all lawsuits that you may have with them in the future.
The news services say that Equalfax is attempting to make money off of
those
who have suffered with the loss of their data. BE CAREFUL!!!



--jeff


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Re: frod alert

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


I don't know anything about that 4th bureau, so I can't advise you on what to do with them, but by calling Experian you can take care of the other 3.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] frod alert

What about the fourth bureau I read in the article! Do I need to call them too? I applied for the free credit report and put an alert. So I guess I have to do this every 90 days! I think my seven year alert exspired about 3 years ago from the court case. Sheesh, what a mess with all of this stuff that keeps happening!   Heather

 

Heather Albright
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From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] frod alert

 

Hi Heather,

 

I called Experian, & they notified the other credit bureaus to place fraud alerts with them as well.  Their phone#is: 1-888-397-3742

 

You can place the fraud alert over the phone, & when you tell them that you're blind, they will ask how you want the information sent to you.  You get the options of large print, braille, or audio CD.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 12:24 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] frod alert

 

Hello, what service is best for putting a fraud alert or which is the most accessible. I read that article, I was confused, do I need to file with two companies as there is actually 4 credit bureaus or just with one? I had a lawyer do this before when my family took out cards in my name because I am blind and the liked to steel from me.  They did not tell me how they did it and it was like 10 years ago. So lets just say it was shock that my own family did this to me! I did apply for the free credit report and it is going to be sent in braille. Thank everyone on this list for all your help I appreciate it.  Heather

 

Heather Albright
Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
ham call sign:
kd5cbl
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...

 

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