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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Pamela Dominguez
 

Well, I hope they didn’t download another virus for you!  That sounds reprehensible that they would not make sure that you would not get a virus when they worked on it.  Pam.
 

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out
 

Oh Yeah,

I forgot to say when I bought a Dell computer several years ago, and after I had it for at least 2 or 3 weeks, I couldn’t figure out what was wrong with it I just knew it wasn’t working right.  I called Best Buy because that is where I bought the computer from, and they sent a technician to my house, and he told me I had a virus.  The technician told me Best Buy downloaded a virus when they installed Windows Xp!  Best Buy told me to just come into the store and pick out another computer, and that I did! 

 

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

 

one of my friends got a dell and turned it on and had to send it back because the hard drive was broke.

 

 

On 9/10/2017 4:44 PM, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff



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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Janet
 

That's good that your husband set it up for you, but it's also good to know
Office Max would have set it up for you if your husband couldn't.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

When I purchased my Lenovo from Office Max, for $80, they would have set it
up, but my husband did.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Jeff,

Why would a friend/tutor need to spend 6 hours setting up your laptop?
Didn't the store where you bought it from at least set it up? If you live
close to the store where you bought it, can't you just take it back to the
store?
Although, I don't know where you purchased it from. I understand you
purchased a in home warranty, but didn't the store give you a 90 day
warranty as well?

Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out





Most manufacturers these days have the ability to remotely access your
computer and perform this troubleshooting and determine thenselves what the
problem is. It doesn't surprise me that Dell does not have this ability.
Once the premiere computer company, they have been surpassed by the entire
industry. I have owned Lenovo computers for some years now, and they have
this ability and the in-home support as well. I wish you luck with this
issue.



Michael







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out



I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent six hours setting it
up. I was thrilled. I purchased a oneyear"prime"service plan which
promised in home service.
I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct
department, I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind
of trouble shooting before someone would come out. The field person only
replaces parts. They say that he can't do any trouble shooting. I feel
that I've been screwed and told them so. This is the sixth or seventh dell
I've bought and the last one.

Jeff


Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf143 Million People #article

Janet
 

Hi Heather,

I’m sorry to hear this.  Call the credit bureaus and see what they say.  It never hurts to try.  Lots of luck. 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf143 Million People #article

 

Think it should be free for a freeze like for me, my sighted family members used my name to take cards out  while I was in the hospital. I have so many friends who are blind or have another disability who’s family took advantage and used their  credit.  So it is like punishing you twice if they at charging you! Heather

 

Heather Albright
Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
ham call sign:
kd5cbl
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...

 

From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf143 Million People #article

 

Gene,

I do think we are talking about the samething.  I’m copying and pasting below what exactly I am talking about, and you can let me know if this is what you are talking about. 

 

Janet

 

If you’re concerned about identity theft, those reported mega-data breaches, or someone gaining access to your credit report without your permission, you

might consider placing a credit freeze on your report.

list of 7 items

What is a credit freeze?

Does a credit freeze affect my credit score?

Does a credit freeze stop prescreened credit offers?

Can anyone see my credit report if it is frozen?

How do I place a freeze on my credit reports?

How do I lift a freeze?

What’s the difference between a credit freeze and a fraud alert?

What is a credit freeze?

 

Also known as a security freeze, this tool lets you restrict access to your credit report, which in turn makes it more difficult for

identity thieves

to open new accounts in your name. That’s because most creditors need to see your credit report before they approve a new account. If they can’t see your

file, they may not extend the credit.

Does a credit freeze affect my credit score?

 

No. A credit freeze does not affect your

credit score.

 

A credit freeze also does not:

 

list of 3 items

• prevent you from getting your

free annual credit report

• keep you from opening a new account, applying for a job, renting an apartment, or buying insurance. But if you’re doing any of these, you’ll need to

lift the freeze temporarily, either for a specific time or for a specific party, say, a potential landlord or employer. The cost and lead times to lift

a freeze vary, so it’s best to check with the credit reporting company in advance.

prevent a thief from making charges to your existing accounts. You still need to monitor all bank, credit card and insurance statements for fraudulent

transactions.

 

Does a credit freeze stop prescreened credit offers?

 

No. If you want to stop getting

prescreened offers of credit,

call 888-5OPTOUT (888-567-8688) or go

online.

The phone number and website are operated by the nationwide credit reporting companies. You can opt out for five years or permanently. However, some companies

send offers that are not based on prescreening, and your federal opt-out right will not stop those kinds of solicitations.

 

As you consider opting out, you should know that prescreened offers can provide many benefits, especially if you are in the market for a credit card or

insurance. Prescreened offers can help you learn about what's available, compare costs, and find the best product for your needs. Because you are pre-selected

to receive the offer, you can be turned down only under limited circumstances. The terms of prescreened offers also may be more favorable than those that

are available to the general public. In fact, some credit card or insurance products may be available only through prescreened offers.

 

Can anyone see my credit report if it is frozen?

 

Certain entities still will have access to it.

 

list of 2 items

your report can be released to your existing creditors or to debt collectors acting on their behalf.

government agencies may have access in response to a court or administrative order, a subpoena, or a search warrant.

 

How do I place a freeze on my credit reports?

 

Contact each of the nationwide credit reporting companies:

 

list of 3 items

Equifax

1-800-349-9960

Experian

1-888-397-3742

TransUnion

1-888-909-8872

 

You'll need to supply your name, address, date of birth, Social Security number and other personal information. Fees vary based on where you live, but

commonly range from $5 to $10.

 

After receiving your freeze request, each credit reporting company will send you a confirmation letter containing a unique PIN (personal identification

number) or password. Keep the PIN or password in a safe place. You will need it if you choose to lift the freeze.

 

How do I lift a freeze?

 

A freeze remains in place until you ask the credit reporting company to temporarily lift it or remove it altogether. A credit reporting company must lift

a freeze no later than three business days after getting your request. The cost to lift a freeze varies by state.

 

If you opt for a temporary lift because you are applying for credit or a job, and you can find out which credit reporting company the business will contact

for your file, you can save some money by lifting the freeze only at that particular company.

 

What’s the difference between a credit freeze and a fraud alert?

 

A credit freeze locks down your credit. A fraud alert allows creditors to get a copy of your credit report as long as they take steps to verify your identity.

For example, if you provide a telephone number, the business must call you to verify whether you are the person making the credit request. Fraud alerts

may be effective at stopping someone from opening new credit accounts in your name, but they may not prevent the misuse of your existing accounts. You

still need to monitor all bank, credit card and insurance statements for fraudulent transactions.

 

Three types of fraud alerts are available:

 

list of 3 items

Initial Fraud Alert.

If you're concerned about identity theft, but haven't yet become a victim, this fraud alert will protect your credit from unverified access for at least

90 days. You may want to place a fraud alert on your file if your wallet, Social Security card, or other personal, financial or account information are

lost or stolen.

Extended Fraud Alert.

For victims of identity theft, an extended fraud alert will protect your credit for seven years.

Active Duty Military Alert.

For those in the military who want to protect their credit while deployed, this fraud alert lasts for one year.

 

To place a fraud alert on your credit reports, contact one of the nationwide credit reporting companies. A fraud alert is free. You must provide proof

of your identity. The company you call must tell the other credit reporting companies; they, in turn, will place an alert on their versions of your report.

 

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

We have to be careful and sure we are talking about the same thing.  A freeze, meaning no one can get any information about your credit from a bureau unless you give specific permission when the bureau notifies you that someone is making an inquiry, or a fraud alert, where you are notified that someone is inquiring about you but your information isn't frozen.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:58 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I just signed up for a credit freeze for all 3 bureaus I was not charged anything.

Not sure why.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Carolyn Arnold
 

When I purchased my Lenovo from Office Max, for $80, they
would have set it up, but my husband did.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has
crapped out

Jeff,

Why would a friend/tutor need to spend 6 hours setting up
your laptop? Didn't the store where you bought it from at
least set it up? If you live close to the store where you
bought it, can't you just take it back to the store?
Although, I don't know where you purchased it from. I
understand you purchased a in home warranty, but didn't the
store give you a 90 day warranty as well?

Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has
crapped out





Most manufacturers these days have the ability to remotely
access your computer and perform this troubleshooting and
determine thenselves what the problem is. It doesn't
surprise me that Dell does not have this ability. Once the
premiere computer company, they have been surpassed by the
entire industry. I have owned Lenovo computers for some
years now, and they have this ability and the in-home
support as well. I wish you luck with this issue.



Michael







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeffrey
Schwartz
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped
out



I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent six
hours setting it up. I was thrilled. I purchased a
oneyear"prime"service plan which promised in home service.
I called them and after spleaking to five people before I
was in the correct department, I was informed that I needed
a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before
someone would come out. The field person only replaces
parts. They say that he can't do any trouble shooting. I
feel that I've been screwed and told them so. This is the
sixth or seventh dell I've bought and the last one.

Jeff


Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf143 Million People #article

heather albright
 

Think it should be free for a freeze like for me, my sighted family members used my name to take cards out  while I was in the hospital. I have so many friends who are blind or have another disability who’s family took advantage and used their  credit.  So it is like punishing you twice if they at charging you! Heather

 

Heather Albright
Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
ham call sign:
kd5cbl
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...

 

From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf143 Million People #article

 

Gene,

I do think we are talking about the samething.  I’m copying and pasting below what exactly I am talking about, and you can let me know if this is what you are talking about. 

 

Janet

 

If you’re concerned about identity theft, those reported mega-data breaches, or someone gaining access to your credit report without your permission, you

might consider placing a credit freeze on your report.

list of 7 items

What is a credit freeze?

Does a credit freeze affect my credit score?

Does a credit freeze stop prescreened credit offers?

Can anyone see my credit report if it is frozen?

How do I place a freeze on my credit reports?

How do I lift a freeze?

What’s the difference between a credit freeze and a fraud alert?

What is a credit freeze?

 

Also known as a security freeze, this tool lets you restrict access to your credit report, which in turn makes it more difficult for

identity thieves

to open new accounts in your name. That’s because most creditors need to see your credit report before they approve a new account. If they can’t see your

file, they may not extend the credit.

Does a credit freeze affect my credit score?

 

No. A credit freeze does not affect your

credit score.

 

A credit freeze also does not:

 

list of 3 items

• prevent you from getting your

free annual credit report

• keep you from opening a new account, applying for a job, renting an apartment, or buying insurance. But if you’re doing any of these, you’ll need to

lift the freeze temporarily, either for a specific time or for a specific party, say, a potential landlord or employer. The cost and lead times to lift

a freeze vary, so it’s best to check with the credit reporting company in advance.

prevent a thief from making charges to your existing accounts. You still need to monitor all bank, credit card and insurance statements for fraudulent

transactions.

 

Does a credit freeze stop prescreened credit offers?

 

No. If you want to stop getting

prescreened offers of credit,

call 888-5OPTOUT (888-567-8688) or go

online.

The phone number and website are operated by the nationwide credit reporting companies. You can opt out for five years or permanently. However, some companies

send offers that are not based on prescreening, and your federal opt-out right will not stop those kinds of solicitations.

 

As you consider opting out, you should know that prescreened offers can provide many benefits, especially if you are in the market for a credit card or

insurance. Prescreened offers can help you learn about what's available, compare costs, and find the best product for your needs. Because you are pre-selected

to receive the offer, you can be turned down only under limited circumstances. The terms of prescreened offers also may be more favorable than those that

are available to the general public. In fact, some credit card or insurance products may be available only through prescreened offers.

 

Can anyone see my credit report if it is frozen?

 

Certain entities still will have access to it.

 

list of 2 items

your report can be released to your existing creditors or to debt collectors acting on their behalf.

government agencies may have access in response to a court or administrative order, a subpoena, or a search warrant.

 

How do I place a freeze on my credit reports?

 

Contact each of the nationwide credit reporting companies:

 

list of 3 items

Equifax

1-800-349-9960

Experian

1-888-397-3742

TransUnion

1-888-909-8872

 

You'll need to supply your name, address, date of birth, Social Security number and other personal information. Fees vary based on where you live, but

commonly range from $5 to $10.

 

After receiving your freeze request, each credit reporting company will send you a confirmation letter containing a unique PIN (personal identification

number) or password. Keep the PIN or password in a safe place. You will need it if you choose to lift the freeze.

 

How do I lift a freeze?

 

A freeze remains in place until you ask the credit reporting company to temporarily lift it or remove it altogether. A credit reporting company must lift

a freeze no later than three business days after getting your request. The cost to lift a freeze varies by state.

 

If you opt for a temporary lift because you are applying for credit or a job, and you can find out which credit reporting company the business will contact

for your file, you can save some money by lifting the freeze only at that particular company.

 

What’s the difference between a credit freeze and a fraud alert?

 

A credit freeze locks down your credit. A fraud alert allows creditors to get a copy of your credit report as long as they take steps to verify your identity.

For example, if you provide a telephone number, the business must call you to verify whether you are the person making the credit request. Fraud alerts

may be effective at stopping someone from opening new credit accounts in your name, but they may not prevent the misuse of your existing accounts. You

still need to monitor all bank, credit card and insurance statements for fraudulent transactions.

 

Three types of fraud alerts are available:

 

list of 3 items

Initial Fraud Alert.

If you're concerned about identity theft, but haven't yet become a victim, this fraud alert will protect your credit from unverified access for at least

90 days. You may want to place a fraud alert on your file if your wallet, Social Security card, or other personal, financial or account information are

lost or stolen.

Extended Fraud Alert.

For victims of identity theft, an extended fraud alert will protect your credit for seven years.

Active Duty Military Alert.

For those in the military who want to protect their credit while deployed, this fraud alert lasts for one year.

 

To place a fraud alert on your credit reports, contact one of the nationwide credit reporting companies. A fraud alert is free. You must provide proof

of your identity. The company you call must tell the other credit reporting companies; they, in turn, will place an alert on their versions of your report.

 

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

We have to be careful and sure we are talking about the same thing.  A freeze, meaning no one can get any information about your credit from a bureau unless you give specific permission when the bureau notifies you that someone is making an inquiry, or a fraud alert, where you are notified that someone is inquiring about you but your information isn't frozen.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:58 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I just signed up for a credit freeze for all 3 bureaus I was not charged anything.

Not sure why.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


--
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Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762

 


Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Janet
 

Oh Yeah,

I forgot to say when I bought a Dell computer several years ago, and after I had it for at least 2 or 3 weeks, I couldn’t figure out what was wrong with it I just knew it wasn’t working right.  I called Best Buy because that is where I bought the computer from, and they sent a technician to my house, and he told me I had a virus.  The technician told me Best Buy downloaded a virus when they installed Windows Xp!  Best Buy told me to just come into the store and pick out another computer, and that I did!  

 

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

 

one of my friends got a dell and turned it on and had to send it back because the hard drive was broke.

 

 

On 9/10/2017 4:44 PM, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff



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Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Gene
 

That's good.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

I am talking about a FREEZE, I got a PIN from each bureau. I am in Georgia which normally charges a $3 fee. I don't know why they did not charge me. Maybe because my information was in the data breach or possible because I am a senior. They did not say the reason it was free.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

We have to be careful and sure we are talking about the same thing.  A freeze, meaning no one can get any information about your credit from a bureau unless you give specific permission when the bureau notifies you that someone is making an inquiry, or a fraud alert, where you are notified that someone is inquiring about you but your information isn't frozen.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

I just signed up for a credit freeze for all 3 bureaus I was not charged anything.
Not sure why.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762




Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Pamela Dominguez
 

Dell can remote into people’s computers and do stuff.  I have had times when they have been on computers of mine, working remotely  for several hours to do stuff: diagnose problems, install software, get things working that weren’t.  Pam.
 

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out
 

 

Most manufacturers these days have the ability to remotely access your computer and perform this troubleshooting and determine thenselves what the problem is. It doesn’t surprise me that Dell does not have this ability. Once the premiere computer company, they have been surpassed by the entire industry. I have owned Lenovo computers for some years now, and they have this ability and the in-home support as well. I wish you luck with this issue.

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

 

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Gene
 

Which means nothing.  There are always a certain number of defective products from any company.  the question is, does Dell have more or less defective products than other companies.  One story about one person with one copy of one product means nothing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

one of my friends got a dell and turned it on and had to send it back because the hard drive was broke.



On 9/10/2017 4:44 PM, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


-- 
sent with mozilla thunderbird


Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


I am talking about a FREEZE, I got a PIN from each bureau. I am in Georgia which normally charges a $3 fee. I don't know why they did not charge me. Maybe because my information was in the data breach or possible because I am a senior. They did not say the reason it was free.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

We have to be careful and sure we are talking about the same thing.  A freeze, meaning no one can get any information about your credit from a bureau unless you give specific permission when the bureau notifies you that someone is making an inquiry, or a fraud alert, where you are notified that someone is inquiring about you but your information isn't frozen.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

I just signed up for a credit freeze for all 3 bureaus I was not charged anything.
Not sure why.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Gene
 

please look at who the message under the message you are replying to is from.  Usually, I and others respond to the message below the one they write,  In this case, I responded to a message from Loy.  He said he got a freeze for free, which I find very unlikely.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Gene,

I do think we are talking about the samething.  I’m copying and pasting below what exactly I am talking about, and you can let me know if this is what you are talking about. 

 

Janet

 

If you’re concerned about identity theft, those reported mega-data breaches, or someone gaining access to your credit report without your permission, you

might consider placing a credit freeze on your report.

list of 7 items

What is a credit freeze?

Does a credit freeze affect my credit score?

Does a credit freeze stop prescreened credit offers?

Can anyone see my credit report if it is frozen?

How do I place a freeze on my credit reports?

How do I lift a freeze?

What’s the difference between a credit freeze and a fraud alert?

What is a credit freeze?

 

Also known as a security freeze, this tool lets you restrict access to your credit report, which in turn makes it more difficult for

identity thieves

to open new accounts in your name. That’s because most creditors need to see your credit report before they approve a new account. If they can’t see your

file, they may not extend the credit.

Does a credit freeze affect my credit score?

 

No. A credit freeze does not affect your

credit score.

 

A credit freeze also does not:

 

list of 3 items

• prevent you from getting your

free annual credit report

• keep you from opening a new account, applying for a job, renting an apartment, or buying insurance. But if you’re doing any of these, you’ll need to

lift the freeze temporarily, either for a specific time or for a specific party, say, a potential landlord or employer. The cost and lead times to lift

a freeze vary, so it’s best to check with the credit reporting company in advance.

prevent a thief from making charges to your existing accounts. You still need to monitor all bank, credit card and insurance statements for fraudulent

transactions.

 

Does a credit freeze stop prescreened credit offers?

 

No. If you want to stop getting

prescreened offers of credit,

call 888-5OPTOUT (888-567-8688) or go

online.

The phone number and website are operated by the nationwide credit reporting companies. You can opt out for five years or permanently. However, some companies

send offers that are not based on prescreening, and your federal opt-out right will not stop those kinds of solicitations.

 

As you consider opting out, you should know that prescreened offers can provide many benefits, especially if you are in the market for a credit card or

insurance. Prescreened offers can help you learn about what's available, compare costs, and find the best product for your needs. Because you are pre-selected

to receive the offer, you can be turned down only under limited circumstances. The terms of prescreened offers also may be more favorable than those that

are available to the general public. In fact, some credit card or insurance products may be available only through prescreened offers.

 

Can anyone see my credit report if it is frozen?

 

Certain entities still will have access to it.

 

list of 2 items

your report can be released to your existing creditors or to debt collectors acting on their behalf.

government agencies may have access in response to a court or administrative order, a subpoena, or a search warrant.

 

How do I place a freeze on my credit reports?

 

Contact each of the nationwide credit reporting companies:

 

list of 3 items

Equifax

1-800-349-9960

Experian

1-888-397-3742

TransUnion

1-888-909-8872

 

You'll need to supply your name, address, date of birth, Social Security number and other personal information. Fees vary based on where you live, but

commonly range from $5 to $10.

 

After receiving your freeze request, each credit reporting company will send you a confirmation letter containing a unique PIN (personal identification

number) or password. Keep the PIN or password in a safe place. You will need it if you choose to lift the freeze.

 

How do I lift a freeze?

 

A freeze remains in place until you ask the credit reporting company to temporarily lift it or remove it altogether. A credit reporting company must lift

a freeze no later than three business days after getting your request. The cost to lift a freeze varies by state.

 

If you opt for a temporary lift because you are applying for credit or a job, and you can find out which credit reporting company the business will contact

for your file, you can save some money by lifting the freeze only at that particular company.

 

What’s the difference between a credit freeze and a fraud alert?

 

A credit freeze locks down your credit. A fraud alert allows creditors to get a copy of your credit report as long as they take steps to verify your identity.

For example, if you provide a telephone number, the business must call you to verify whether you are the person making the credit request. Fraud alerts

may be effective at stopping someone from opening new credit accounts in your name, but they may not prevent the misuse of your existing accounts. You

still need to monitor all bank, credit card and insurance statements for fraudulent transactions.

 

Three types of fraud alerts are available:

 

list of 3 items

Initial Fraud Alert.

If you're concerned about identity theft, but haven't yet become a victim, this fraud alert will protect your credit from unverified access for at least

90 days. You may want to place a fraud alert on your file if your wallet, Social Security card, or other personal, financial or account information are

lost or stolen.

Extended Fraud Alert.

For victims of identity theft, an extended fraud alert will protect your credit for seven years.

Active Duty Military Alert.

For those in the military who want to protect their credit while deployed, this fraud alert lasts for one year.

 

To place a fraud alert on your credit reports, contact one of the nationwide credit reporting companies. A fraud alert is free. You must provide proof

of your identity. The company you call must tell the other credit reporting companies; they, in turn, will place an alert on their versions of your report.

 

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

We have to be careful and sure we are talking about the same thing.  A freeze, meaning no one can get any information about your credit from a bureau unless you give specific permission when the bureau notifies you that someone is making an inquiry, or a fraud alert, where you are notified that someone is inquiring about you but your information isn't frozen.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:58 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I just signed up for a credit freeze for all 3 bureaus I was not charged anything.

Not sure why.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Navigating headings in word?

Josh Kennedy
 

if using NVDA press insert space then you can move by headings and stuff, insert space to go back to editing the document.



On 9/10/2017 4:59 PM, Chris Grabowski wrote:
If using JAWS or Window-Eyes, press insert-z first,then h or shift h.
Press insert-z to stop.

Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:38:10 -0400
"Kliph Sr" <kliph.sr@...> wrote:

How do you jump by headings in word without adding and H to the text?


Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
    Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323  (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower





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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Josh Kennedy
 

one of my friends got a dell and turned it on and had to send it back because the hard drive was broke.



On 9/10/2017 4:44 PM, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Josh Kennedy
 

I got an hp laptop with AMD a6 processor and its working great. got it for $250 it has windows10 home on it.



On 9/10/2017 4:44 PM, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

Jeff


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Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


I did it online, One assigned me a PIN and the other two I was able to choose my PIN.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Hi,

Did you have to call all 3 agencies? Are they going to send you a pin number so if you ever want to lift the freeze?

Janet

  

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I just signed up for a credit freeze for all 3 bureaus I was not charged anything.

Not sure why.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762



Re: Life Lock Protection

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


My wife & I as well as many friends & family members have been clients of Lifelock for several years, & any one of us would unequivocally recommend Lifelock for identity protection.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection

I haven't looked at enough reviews to draw any conclusions.  I looked at one site where Life Lock was listed in the top ten protection companies.  I'm not recommending or not recommending them.  But whatever problems they may have or have had, I've never heard of them having a security breach nor have I seen reports of customers being subject to identity theft because of Life lock misconduct.  There may be, or have been reason for concern, judging by the article and we don't know what Life Lock has done in the last two years.  the fine was assessed in 2015.  The article raises questions but I'd want more information before forming an opinion about the company now.  Based on the enormous hack of Equifax and the fact that Equifax had two other hacks in something like the last year and didn't bother to take proper precautions, leads me to very seriously question whether it is correct or fair or reasonable to equate the two companies' conduct.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection

 
What is disturbing about the fine against Lifelock is the size of the fine.  The FTC wouldn’t  have levied a fine of $100 million if Lifelock had only commited a minor violation.   Lifelock is not a Fortune 500 company by any stretch, and under a judge’s ruling must pay most of this fine to settle a class action lawsuit against it.  This raises serious questions about its credibility, trustworthiness and long-term viability.  But even if Lifelock ultimately pays this fine and promises to reform its business practices, what is to stop it from reverting to its old ways in view of the current administration’s pro-business, anti-consumer policies? I certainly wouldn’t trust a company to protect me against identity fraud if it itself has been the target of serious fraud allegations by the leading government consumer watchdog agency.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection
 
I just read the article and it raises points well worth considering.  Wheteher other companies are better in respect to what has been alleged against Life Lock, I don't know.  but I see with interest that the article gives, the same adivse as I did, do searches for companies using words or phrases like those given in the article.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection
 
I wouldn't just base my decision on one violation.  I haven't researched this to any extent, but from the little I've read, it appears that Life Lock is more thorough than other services.  Is the extra thoroughness important in protecting your credit?  I don't know.  And also, Life Lock has three plans.  The cheapest plan may not be more thorough than the other services may be.  But when you ask if they are more trustworthy than Equifax, that question implies that you think that they will somehow misuse your data.  I haven't read the article yet, but I've never heard of a breach at Life Lock and whatever they were fined for is probably minor when compared with what Equifax did.  Equifax exposed personal information on half the population of The United States. 
 
I haven't done this, but you can probably get interesting information and comparisons by doing a google search for something like best credit protection company.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection
 
 
Be careful about signing up with Lifelock.  They were fined a whopping $100 million by the FTC for engaging in deceptive consumer practices and other violations.  So are they any more trustworthy than Equifax?  It’s up to you to decide whether paying for their services is worthwhile.  See this article:
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection
 

The other thing is that they give you a date to come back to register.

The message I got said Life Lock, but who knows what they are really doing.

They are flying by the seat of their pence.

 

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection

 

I should clarify that the first part of my comments were for anyone interested but I was responding to Cristóbal's comment that you can put any information in and you are told that you are affected.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:05 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection

 

If you fool around and put in any name and any information, it won't tell you are impacted if it thinks you arent'  Have you read the earlier messages in the thread?  Yesterday and perhaps again today, I said that I was told that they don't think my information is impacted.  They don't say it definitely isn't.  They say they don't think it is.  That leaves them wiggle room in case they are wrong.  With fifty percent of the public affected, f course you are going to get a lot of affected indications.  Every time you enter fictitious information, there's a fifty-fifty chance you will enter an affected number.

 

Also, I really doubt that Life Lock is the company they contracted with to provide protection.  If it is, I'd be interested in knowing. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Life Lock Protection

 

I put in my information, and my wife’s information, and it said we were not affected, but we can still get the Life Lock protection.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 3:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] LifeLock Protection

 

You can apparently put any name and any sequence of numbers and it will tell you that you’re impacted. IN short, regardless of what it says, take steps to lock your info down.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 6:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] LifeLock Protection

 

You can go to the Equifax site and put in you name and last 6 digits of SS number and it will tell you if your information was effected. I did this and mine was.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 8:54 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] LifeLock Protection

 

How does one know if he is protected or has been invaded?  Only after some such event has occurred, I suspect.  I made a killing in the late nineties over that Y2K scare.  Never had to raise a finger--but for a couple installations of "protection" software.  How BOGUS!!!

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:45 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data Of 143 Million People

 

Hi Lenron,

 

Lifelock has at least 3 different plans, depending on how much protection you want or think you need.

 

See which plan fits your individual needs.

 

Since everyone has their own identity, we offer three identity protection plans depending on who you are and what you need. All of our plans include our
Million Dollar Protection™Package‡ as well as our patented LifeLock Identity Alert®System†.

 

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Up to $25,000
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*Indicates features included within the Million Dollar Protection™ Package‡

 

Features in All Plans
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24/7 Live Member Support

 

Reduce Pre-Approved Credit Card Offers

 

Lost Wallet Protection

 

Help to Reduce Exposure of Personal Info

 

LifeLock Identity Alert® System

 

Alerts If We Detect...
Your Personal Info on Service and Credit Applications

 

Your Personal Information on the Dark Web

 

A Request to Change Your Address

 

Fake Personal Information Connected to Your Identity

 

Your Personal Info on Criminal Arrest and Court Booking Records

 

Large-Scale Breaches

 

Cash Withdrawals, Transfers and Large Purchases from Your Credit, Checking and Savings Accounts

 

New Bank Account Applications with Your Personal Info

 

Takeover or New Name Added to Your Bank Accounts

 

Investment/401(k) Account Activity

 

Your Personal Info on File-Sharing Networks

 

Your Name on a Sex Offender Registry

 

Credit Services and Reports
Credit Monitoring

 

One Bureau1
One Bureau1
Three Bureaus1,2
Annual Credit Report and Score

 

The credit scores provided are VantageScore 3.0 credit scores based on data from Equifax, Experian and TransUnion respectively. Any One-Bureau VantageScore
mentioned is based on Equifax data only. Third parties use many different types of credit scores and are likely to use a different type of credit score
to assess your creditworthiness.

 

One Bureau1
Three Bureaus1
Monthly Credit Score Tracking

 

The credit score provided is a VantageScore 3.0 credit score based on Equifax data. Third parties use many different types of credit scores and are likely
to use a different type of credit score to assess your creditworthiness.

 

One Bureau1

 

The credit scores provided are VantageScore 3.0 credit scores based on data from Equifax, Experian and TransUnion respectively. Any one bureau VantageScore
mentioned is based on Equifax data only. Third parties use many different types of credit scores and are likely to use a different type of credit score
to assess your creditworthiness.

 

1 Credit reports, scores and credit monitoring may require an additional verification process and credit services will be withheld until such process is
complete.

 

2 For LifeLock Ultimate Plus™ Three-Bureau Credit Monitoring, credit monitoring from Experian and TransUnion will take several days to begin.

 

‡ Million Dollar Protection Package benefits are provided by a Master Policy issued by United Specialty Insurance Company, Inc. (State National Insurance
Company, Inc. for NY State members). The Master Policy provides coverage for Stolen Funds Reimbursement and Personal Expense Compensation, each with limits
of up to $25,000 for Standard members, up to $100,000 for Advantage members and up to $1 million for Ultimate Plus members. If needed, LifeLock will provide
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LifeLock.com/legal
article end

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Lenron

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 5:00 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data Of 143 Million People

 

After this I am wondering what would be the cost of life lock. It's
bad enough the three credit report scores is pretty much what controls
us getting anything, now who knows what problems we could have. I know
there is a couple things on my credit report that shouldn't be that I
am trying to figure out how to get rid of and something that I payed
off but it's still showing as an active account. It's madness I tell
you. There is no way I am trusting equal fax. To mounter my credit
when they are a big part of the reason we are in this situation in the
first place. What they really should be doing is offering credit
repair services to anyone that wants to get items sorted that don't
seem to be things that they had.

On 9/9/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Not only that, a year's monitoring isn't sufficient.  Once your information
> is in the wild, it may circulate and be used for years.  Use a real credit
> monitoring service like Life Lock and keep the service indefinitely.  You
> should have such a service even if you haven't had your information exposed
> in the Equifax scandal.  It should be a form of protection everyone has.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: felix1063@...
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:50 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
> Of 143 Million People
>
>
> It has been announced by news organizations that Equalfax will monitor your
> credit for one year.  After that, they will automatically charge you. PLUS
> you have to waive all lawsuits that you may have with them in the future.
> The news services say that Equalfax is attempting to make money off of those
> who have suffered with the loss of their data.  BE CAREFUL!!!
>
>
>
> --jeff
>
>


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Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Janet
 

Gene,

Yes, I know all about these other fraud issues, but I have my cards covered, and I have a certain pin number so no one can apply for SS benefits.  One has to keep a watch on these other accounts though. 

 

Janet

  

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

There are many other kinds of fraud than involving a credit bureau.  I don't know enough about it to discuss it in detail but according to what I've read since the Equifax scandal. identity theft can involve credit card usage, applying as you for Social Security benefits, filing false tax returns, and there may be other things I don't know about. 

 

I'm not saying you should or shouldn't get protection from a company like Life Lock.  I'm saying that in order to decide, you need good information about what other things you might want protection from. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:01 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I’m talking about a credit freeze, and yes, I know they do charge for this request.  From what I’ve heard, it is $5 or $10 onetime charge according to the state the person lives in.  If I had my credit monitored, I would pay more than that maybe in a month.  I can have the freeze lifted any time.  

 

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Janet
 

Gene,

I do think we are talking about the samething.  I’m copying and pasting below what exactly I am talking about, and you can let me know if this is what you are talking about. 

 

Janet

 

If you’re concerned about identity theft, those reported mega-data breaches, or someone gaining access to your credit report without your permission, you

might consider placing a credit freeze on your report.

list of 7 items

What is a credit freeze?

Does a credit freeze affect my credit score?

Does a credit freeze stop prescreened credit offers?

Can anyone see my credit report if it is frozen?

How do I place a freeze on my credit reports?

How do I lift a freeze?

What’s the difference between a credit freeze and a fraud alert?

What is a credit freeze?

 

Also known as a security freeze, this tool lets you restrict access to your credit report, which in turn makes it more difficult for

identity thieves

to open new accounts in your name. That’s because most creditors need to see your credit report before they approve a new account. If they can’t see your

file, they may not extend the credit.

Does a credit freeze affect my credit score?

 

No. A credit freeze does not affect your

credit score.

 

A credit freeze also does not:

 

list of 3 items

• prevent you from getting your

free annual credit report

• keep you from opening a new account, applying for a job, renting an apartment, or buying insurance. But if you’re doing any of these, you’ll need to

lift the freeze temporarily, either for a specific time or for a specific party, say, a potential landlord or employer. The cost and lead times to lift

a freeze vary, so it’s best to check with the credit reporting company in advance.

prevent a thief from making charges to your existing accounts. You still need to monitor all bank, credit card and insurance statements for fraudulent

transactions.

 

Does a credit freeze stop prescreened credit offers?

 

No. If you want to stop getting

prescreened offers of credit,

call 888-5OPTOUT (888-567-8688) or go

online.

The phone number and website are operated by the nationwide credit reporting companies. You can opt out for five years or permanently. However, some companies

send offers that are not based on prescreening, and your federal opt-out right will not stop those kinds of solicitations.

 

As you consider opting out, you should know that prescreened offers can provide many benefits, especially if you are in the market for a credit card or

insurance. Prescreened offers can help you learn about what's available, compare costs, and find the best product for your needs. Because you are pre-selected

to receive the offer, you can be turned down only under limited circumstances. The terms of prescreened offers also may be more favorable than those that

are available to the general public. In fact, some credit card or insurance products may be available only through prescreened offers.

 

Can anyone see my credit report if it is frozen?

 

Certain entities still will have access to it.

 

list of 2 items

your report can be released to your existing creditors or to debt collectors acting on their behalf.

government agencies may have access in response to a court or administrative order, a subpoena, or a search warrant.

 

How do I place a freeze on my credit reports?

 

Contact each of the nationwide credit reporting companies:

 

list of 3 items

Equifax

1-800-349-9960

Experian

1-888-397-3742

TransUnion

1-888-909-8872

 

You'll need to supply your name, address, date of birth, Social Security number and other personal information. Fees vary based on where you live, but

commonly range from $5 to $10.

 

After receiving your freeze request, each credit reporting company will send you a confirmation letter containing a unique PIN (personal identification

number) or password. Keep the PIN or password in a safe place. You will need it if you choose to lift the freeze.

 

How do I lift a freeze?

 

A freeze remains in place until you ask the credit reporting company to temporarily lift it or remove it altogether. A credit reporting company must lift

a freeze no later than three business days after getting your request. The cost to lift a freeze varies by state.

 

If you opt for a temporary lift because you are applying for credit or a job, and you can find out which credit reporting company the business will contact

for your file, you can save some money by lifting the freeze only at that particular company.

 

What’s the difference between a credit freeze and a fraud alert?

 

A credit freeze locks down your credit. A fraud alert allows creditors to get a copy of your credit report as long as they take steps to verify your identity.

For example, if you provide a telephone number, the business must call you to verify whether you are the person making the credit request. Fraud alerts

may be effective at stopping someone from opening new credit accounts in your name, but they may not prevent the misuse of your existing accounts. You

still need to monitor all bank, credit card and insurance statements for fraudulent transactions.

 

Three types of fraud alerts are available:

 

list of 3 items

Initial Fraud Alert.

If you're concerned about identity theft, but haven't yet become a victim, this fraud alert will protect your credit from unverified access for at least

90 days. You may want to place a fraud alert on your file if your wallet, Social Security card, or other personal, financial or account information are

lost or stolen.

Extended Fraud Alert.

For victims of identity theft, an extended fraud alert will protect your credit for seven years.

Active Duty Military Alert.

For those in the military who want to protect their credit while deployed, this fraud alert lasts for one year.

 

To place a fraud alert on your credit reports, contact one of the nationwide credit reporting companies. A fraud alert is free. You must provide proof

of your identity. The company you call must tell the other credit reporting companies; they, in turn, will place an alert on their versions of your report.

 

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

We have to be careful and sure we are talking about the same thing.  A freeze, meaning no one can get any information about your credit from a bureau unless you give specific permission when the bureau notifies you that someone is making an inquiry, or a fraud alert, where you are notified that someone is inquiring about you but your information isn't frozen.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:58 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I just signed up for a credit freeze for all 3 bureaus I was not charged anything.

Not sure why.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762



Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Gene
 

There are many other kinds of fraud than involving a credit bureau.  I don't know enough about it to discuss it in detail but according to what I've read since the Equifax scandal. identity theft can involve credit card usage, applying as you for Social Security benefits, filing false tax returns, and there may be other things I don't know about. 
 
I'm not saying you should or shouldn't get protection from a company like Life Lock.  I'm saying that in order to decide, you need good information about what other things you might want protection from. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

I’m talking about a credit freeze, and yes, I know they do charge for this request.  From what I’ve heard, it is $5 or $10 onetime charge according to the state the person lives in.  If I had my credit monitored, I would pay more than that maybe in a month.  I can have the freeze lifted any time.  

 

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762



Re: Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Gene
 

We have to be careful and sure we are talking about the same thing.  A freeze, meaning no one can get any information about your credit from a bureau unless you give specific permission when the bureau notifies you that someone is making an inquiry, or a fraud alert, where you are notified that someone is inquiring about you but your information isn't frozen.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

I just signed up for a credit freeze for all 3 bureaus I was not charged anything.
Not sure why.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Are you talking about a freeze or a fraud alert?  A freeze must be done with every credit bureau indifidually and there is a charge that every credit bureau charges.  I think it's about twenty dollars per bureau.  A fraud alert, as I recall is free and, based on a message from a list member, if you notify one credit bureau, you can do so by phone, that you want a fraud alert, that bureau will notify the others. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

Is there some way I could check to see if the site is working? I just want to put a freeze on my credit. 

Has anyone else been asked for a password?

 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

I can't be sure of this but I think the site stopped working properly this morning. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

Hi Everyone,

Wow, what a mess!  This is just plain stupidity on the part of Equifax!  According to Rick Smith Chairman and CEO of Equifax, this all started in May through July, and consumers were not even notified until Sept!  Everytime I attempt to go online to Equifax, I am asked to enter my last name, last 6 digits of my SSN and my password, but I don’t have a password with Equifax and never did.  Any suggestions? I used the Equifax linck Gene had in an email, and I also Googled it, but I still get the exact same message when I go to Equifax’s site.  

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

But Equifax had two other breaches in the last year or two and security experts are saying that they should have significantly strengthened their security after the other breaches.  In addition, they knew about the breach since something like July 29 and they waited about five weeks to disclose it.  And, of course, before the disclosure, the president of the company and, I believe, two or three other officials unloaded a lot of stock before its value went down. 

 

also, to get their free protection for a year, which is a completely inadequate length of time, you have to waive your right to sue the company and agree to submit to arbitration. 

 

Of course, there will continue to be security breaches but it appears that Equifax was grossly negligent.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal DataOf 143 Million People #article

 

LOL you guys are behaving as if they gave away the information
intentionally.  I don't have an opinion one way or the other as to whether
anyone should opt in to their monitoring service, but the fact is these
things  happen.  It is an inherent risk of living in the information age and
no company's security is ever going to be 100% foolproof.  It has happened
before and it will almost certainly happen again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
DataOf 143 Million People #article


Right you are Heather, besides why should we trust them to monitor
anything after what they did.

On 9/9/17, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
> I thought if you opt in to the free year monitoring, you cant sew them in
> the future. Heather
>
> Heather Albright
> Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> ham call sign:
> kd5cbl
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl@...
>
> From: Loy
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> DataOf 143 Million People #article
>
> I went on their web site and I froze my credit and they did not charge me.
> Usually there is a fee for this.I plan to do this for the other credit
> bureaus.They gave me a number so if I want to apply for credit I can
> unfreeze by giving them the number. I don't know if the credit monitoring
> they provide is that safe. Clark Howard a consumer person on radio
> suggested that freezing was the best way to go.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Missa
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
> Data
> Of 143 Million People #article
>
> I got to the part where it told me whether or not I was affected. I
> just chose not to continue with signing up for what they were
> offering.
>
> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It's not just for signing up. You have to be verified if you want to see
>> if
>> the site thinks you are affected by the breach. While it's worth
>> checking,
>> at the same time, the site doesn't say you aren't affected. It says that
>> based on the information submitted, it appears you aren't affected or a
>> hedging statement like that.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Missa
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>> Data
>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>
>>
>> I was able to get through everything, I just stopped at the continue
>> part where it asked you to agree. I'm not too sure about signing up
>> with it to be honest.
>> I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with cookies? I don't go
>> to many places with chrome--the browser I was using--and all I had to
>> do was check the box. It blipped and said "opening verification" and
>> then went "you are verified" so I didn't do anything beyond check the
>> box.
>>
>> On 9/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> You never know when you will be verified just by checking the box or
>>> when
>>> you will be asked for a challenge. The point of the I Am not a robot
>>> system
>>> is that it can tell the difference between a bot and a human by how the
>>> check box is checked in terms of how a person moves to it with a mouse
>>> and
>>> checks it as opposed to an automated system. Sometimes, from the
>>> keyboard,
>>> it can tell that you are a person and sometimes it can't tell so you get
>>> a
>>> challenge then.
>>>
>>> This is a widely used system and, instead of just giving up and saying
>>> "I
>>> can't get it to work," it would be a good idea to try to solve the
>>> problem
>>> because you never know when you will see the same captcha system again.
>>>
>>> As I asked before with Mike, Gerald, do you have Flash installed? What
>>> browsers did you try? Did you try more than one?
>>>
>>> I saw this system when contacting a local radio station, on the site we
>>> are
>>> discussing today, and I believe on another site about three months ago.
>>> As
>>> I said, this is a very popular system and it is a good idea to try to
>>> figure
>>> out how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>> I and others have been able to go through the verification without
>>> issues.
>>> Jaws 18/Firefox 55/Windows 10. Don’t know what to tell you. I didn’t
>>> even
>>> have to deal with the audio challenge. I just check the box that I am
>>> not
>>> a
>>> robot, got verified and proceeded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, the audio challenge doesn’t work for me, because I tried over and
>>> over
>>> a few times without success, and it apparently doesn’t work for some
>>> other
>>> list members, either. So I called the special security breach hotline
>>> Equifax set up (866-447-7559), but after waiting on hold for 20 minutes,
>>> I
>>> was disconnected. So at this point, there is no way for most blind
>>> consumers to verify whether they have been affected by this massive
>>> security
>>> bbreach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was able to activate the audio challenge using Firefox but not IE 11.
>>> But
>>> I tried three different challenges and could not understand the words
>>> in
>>> any of them, which sounded garbled to my ears. Besides, there is no
>>> edit
>>> field to enter the audio challenge results. Bad job by Equifax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, something in your browsers configuration is keeping you from hearing
>>> the
>>> challenge. I got an audio challenge within seconds of activating the
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have Chrome try using it. If you can hear the challenge in
>>> Chrome
>>> and not in the other browsers, at least you'll know which browser to use
>>> on
>>> such captchas. It's possible this is a Flash issue. Do you have Flash
>>> installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking the I'm not a robot checkbox I shift + tabbed & pressed
>>> the
>>> get an audio challenge button, but never received an audio challenge. I
>>> tried several times with each browser without success. Maybe the
>>> website
>>> is
>>> just very busy, & can't keep up or something. I'm covered by another
>>> service as well, & was just seeing how the sign up would work.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gene
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't enroll in their
>>> monitoring service; I'm already enrolled in one, but I checked the part
>>> of
>>> the site that tells me whether I may be affected by the breach. the
>>> wording
>>> in the response was roughly, based on the information submitted, we
>>> believe
>>> you weren't affected. So, they believe, but they aren't making a
>>> definite
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as far as the captcha problem is concerned, after you checked the I
>>> am
>>> not a robot checkbox, did you get a message that you were verified or
>>> did
>>> you get an interface that allowed you to get an audio challenge? These
>>> I
>>> am
>>> not a robot captchas are very popular and it would be to your longterm
>>> benefit if we can see why you are having a problem. I don't use the
>>> archaic
>>> and ever increasingly archaic Internet Explorer. I was able to use the
>>> captcha using Firefox and I've used Chrome on the same kind of captcha
>>> on
>>> another site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Mike B.
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:53 AM
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal
>>> Data
>>> Of 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you go to,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.equifaxsecurity2017.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're supposed to be able to enroll in complimentary identity theft
>>> protection and credit file monitoring for 1 year, but good effing luck!
>>> I
>>> tried with both IE11 & FF52 & couldn't get their audio CAPTCHA option to
>>> work with either browser.
>>>
>>> Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
>>> the
>>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Carlos
>>>
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:34 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Article: Equifax - Data Breach Exposed Personal Data
>>> Of
>>> 143 Million People #article
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/07/549296359/hackers-accessed-the-personal-data-of-143-million-people-equifax-says
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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