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Re: cost of open book

Pamela Dominguez
 

Oh; I saw it in the 90s when it used a tower and a flat bed scanner.  That was the one that had dectalk.  I forgot about that, because I only had it at my job for a little while.  It also had the magnetic board with the camera  on wheels connected to a cable that you were supposed to move line by line on the page.  But most of the time, I used the regular scanner.  It had a braille manual that came with it.  I think that one was called the Kurzweil personal reader.  That was the second one I saw.  But the very first one I saw was the one that was the size of a stand-alone copy machine and had some kind of foreign-sounding speech.  But a funny thing about the one at my job: I was sitting at the desk that they gave me for it, and my boss came in and saw me sitting in front of all these gadgets and told me:  “You look like Lieutenant Ahora!”  Pam.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book
 
I don't remember the exact year, but it was some time in the mid to late 80s.  It had an over-sized control panel that connected to the main unit with a thick cable and I believe it used the DECtalk synthesizer.  The next model was much smaller.  The control panel was about the size of a small keyboard and the main unit was probably the size of a mini desktop tower.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book
 

I’m seventy and never “saw” it.  Perhaps Scranton was behind the times.  It still is.  When did you have this experience?

Jeff

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

I remember being one of the first to be trained on that huge Kurzweil reading machine when we got one at the public library.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:48 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

 

I had the first KNFBdevice when I was working.  I found it to be virtually useless, even for scanning currency.  At that time it cost over two thousand bucks.  I think that Kurzweil is a pioneer.  He invented the first scanner/ocr It was the size of a washing machine and was only found in libraries, but he was the only one to conceptualize such a device for the blind and make one.

Jeff

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

Are you using KNFB Reader?  If not, that will make a huge difference.  KNFB Reader is almost considered the gold standard when scanning with a smart phone these days.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:41 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

I don’t find that scanning stuff with my phone works well, most of the time.  Pam.

 

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:11 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

or for $250 you could get a moto e 4th gen plus smartPhone, plus knfb reader. then scan your stuff and save to dropbox to sink to the computer.

 

 

On 9/12/2017 4:00 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 

If you don’t want to spend $1000 to purchase a new copy of Open Book, another text to speech program you might want to consider is DocuScan Plus from Serotek, which only costs $400.  Keep in mind that DocuScan Plus is not as feature rich as Open Book, but it might well suffice for your needs if all you want to do is read simple documents.  Also keep in mind that Serotek is on shaky ground these days, having recently lost its chief programmer, and so its future is uncertain.  For more info about DocuScan Plus:

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:41 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

For the member who told me it was now one fifty, I just called vfo and it is now one thousand   Things are really changing at vfo.

Jeff

 

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Re: determining CPU and ram on windows 8.1 computer

Gene
 

If it’s a snail, that's either because your computer is underpowered or because of some other problem.  Microsoft has a diagnostic tool you can run that will tell you if your computer is capable of running Windows 10.  someone will, I hope, provide information about where to find it and how to run it.  It may not be necessary to look at the specefications of your system.  The tool should evaluate all that. 
 
Perhaps Windows 10 will run faster or a little faster on your machine but either something such as a hardware problem, malware, or an underpowered machine is causing it to run very slowly now and I doubt Windows 10 will run that much better.  Is it worth going through the trouble to upgrade if the machine is so slow now?  I'll let others with more technical knowledge than I have discuss the matter further.

From: Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] determining CPU and ram on windows 8.1 computer

good to know.  I've noticed that 8.1 is a snail compared to xp.
 
thanks again
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] determining CPU and ram on windows 8.1 computer

 

Try pressing the Windows key to open the start menu and type “System information” with no quotes into the search field then press enter. This will open the system summary window. Tab one time and then you should be able to arrow through all of the information about your computer. It will tell you what type of processor you have and at what speed it is running in GHz. You will also see how much RAM (memory) that you have installed, how much is being used and how much is available. Just ALT + F4 to close when you have the information that you need. If your computer is currently running Windows 8.1, then it will run Windows 10 with no problems. Win 10 is  smaller and less resource demanding than Windows 8.1 is.

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] determining CPU and ram on windows 8.1 computer

 

In windows 8.1 how might I determine the CPU speed/power, and the ram on the machine?

 

I'm sure my system can support windows 10, but want to make sure before I start the install.

 

Thanks

 

keith


Re: Cost of New IPhone

Carlos
 

You are arguing semantics. You used the word best, while I used the word logical, but it comes down to the same thing. You make the choice that is within your means. If you cannot casually afford to spend $700, then that is clearly not your best choice.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pablo Morales" <pablocmd2014@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone


No, it is not the same that you have been saying in the last emails.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

LOL isn't that basically what I said?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pablo Morales" <pablocmd2014@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone


Ok, but it is not the best choice. That is the choice that they have, not
the best choice.
It is like everything. If you have no many choices, you have to pick up
what
ever you can get, most part of the times it will not be the best.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

And the fact is that as with many expensive items, what is most cost
effective is not necessarily most realistic. If you don't have $700 to
spend out of pocket, then you don't have it. If you don't have $30000 to
spend for that new car, then you pay it off over a period of time despite
interest rates as most people do.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hudson" <rob_hudson_3182@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone


Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Most people get an iPhone the same way they get any other expensive
smart phone, as part of a contract or deal with the cell provider.
Yeah but then you get gouged with interest and other surcharges, which
makes
the phone more expensive over the term of the contract lol. So it's
probably
cheaper relatively speaking to just plunk down your credit card and go on
that canned tuna diet.















Re: Cost of New IPhone

Pablo Morales
 

A couple of years apple has a plan like buying an iPhone, and after one year
you are able to replace it for a new iPhone generation. I don't know if this
plan is still working, or what are the parts on the back of the contract.
But I used an iPhone for those days and I remember the apple guy talking
about this plan.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone


And a lot of consumers still believe that they are getting the phone for
"free" when they sign a two year contract, not realizing that the cost of
the phone is actually built into the contract. And with all the hidden fees
and surcharges, they usually wind up paying more in the long run than
purchasing the phone outright and taking out a prepaid or pay as you go
plan. What I don't understand is that a lot of blind consumers will stand on
line to fork over $600 or more for an IPhone without batting an eyelash, but
at the same time villify VFO for its pricing practices.

Gerald



Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Carlos, they give you 100 dollars for your old phone. They are making much
more money than 100 dollars. It is a business, none of them are going to
lose money. Always buying a phone through a contract is more expensive. No
monthly but at the end you pay more than buying the phone directly to apple
or google or whom ever.
It is a business, and they are not going to lose money, either apple or
either the phone companies.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Not necessarily, because many cell providers will also allow you to trade in
your outdated model for a significantly discounted price as newer models are
released.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hudson" <rob_hudson_3182@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone


Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Most people get an iPhone the same way they get any other expensive
smart phone, as part of a contract or deal with the cell provider.
Yeah but then you get gouged with interest and other surcharges, which makes
the phone more expensive over the term of the contract lol. So it's probably
cheaper relatively speaking to just plunk down your credit card and go on
that canned tuna diet.


Re: Cost of New IPhone

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

Its not possible at least not for me. That is why my next phone will either be a moto g or moto e plus.



On 9/13/2017 7:41 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

I've heard of people who barely subsist on SSI or SSDI, yet walk around with the latest IPhone.  How is this possible?

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Yes, they do. When every month they have problems to pay their bills, or
when they try to buy something and they can't save money is when they notice
it. The problem is that they are not understanding how works this business.
We notice it, but whe are not thinking why it happen.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Most people don't notice that, or they don't seem to care, as long as they
don't see the price all at once.  Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Most people get an iPhone the same way they get any other expensive
smart phone, as part of a contract or deal with the cell provider.

Yeah but then you get gouged with interest and other surcharges, which makes
the phone more expensive over the term of the contract lol. So it's probably
cheaper relatively speaking to just plunk down your credit card and go on
that canned tuna diet.




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Re: Cost of New IPhone

Pablo Morales
 

No, it is not the same that you have been saying in the last emails.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

LOL isn't that basically what I said?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pablo Morales" <pablocmd2014@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone


Ok, but it is not the best choice. That is the choice that they have, not
the best choice.
It is like everything. If you have no many choices, you have to pick up
what
ever you can get, most part of the times it will not be the best.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

And the fact is that as with many expensive items, what is most cost
effective is not necessarily most realistic. If you don't have $700 to
spend out of pocket, then you don't have it. If you don't have $30000 to
spend for that new car, then you pay it off over a period of time despite
interest rates as most people do.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hudson" <rob_hudson_3182@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone


Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Most people get an iPhone the same way they get any other expensive
smart phone, as part of a contract or deal with the cell provider.
Yeah but then you get gouged with interest and other surcharges, which
makes
the phone more expensive over the term of the contract lol. So it's
probably
cheaper relatively speaking to just plunk down your credit card and go on
that canned tuna diet.










Re: cost of open book

Pablo Morales
 

Yes, I am totally blind and I use KNFB reader on an android phone without problems. However for work I rather to use Kurzweil.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:04 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

I am totally blind. I have 0 vision. and I can position the camera for the knfb app nearly perfect. do you know what the field of view report is used for in knfb reader apps? the field of view report is used to help totally blind people accurately position the camera. and it works excellent. totally blind people can use phone cameras successfully and perfectly fine. this idea that you have to be partially sighted or fully sighted to use a camera is just plain wrong and misleading.

 

 

On 9/13/2017 6:33 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 

I suspect that many “blind” folks who have success with the KNFB reader app for the IPhone are actually partially sighted  or low vision and so have enough vision to position the camera properly over the document.  But if you are totally blind, a dedicated scanner or camera on a fixed tripod would probably work better.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 1:50 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

 

If you don’t have a stand to hold the phone steady in one place, then getting good results with the phone is a shot in the dark at best. KNFB reader’s quality compared to it’s cost is not a feasible choice at all. Not to mention the process of transferring documents scanned with a phone to a computer. Nearly all documents that I scan need to be saved as a Word or Text file to be referenced back to at a later time. I may not purchase another expensive smart phone, All I really ever use it for is making calls. Yes, the GPS functionality, and a few of the gadgets that you can put on it are fine, but they do not function as well as a stand alone device that was developed specifically for it’s intended use, say a color identifier. What the hell is the color Mountain Mist or  Precious Persimmon anyway?

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

I get very good scanned results with my phone. I position the camera until I get a nearly perfect field of view report then take the picture.

 

 

On 9/12/2017 4:41 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

I don’t find that scanning stuff with my phone works well, most of the time.  Pam.

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:11 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

or for $250 you could get a moto e 4th gen plus smartPhone, plus knfb reader. then scan your stuff and save to dropbox to sink to the computer.

 

 

On 9/12/2017 4:00 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 

If you don’t want to spend $1000 to purchase a new copy of Open Book, another text to speech program you might want to consider is DocuScan Plus from Serotek, which only costs $400.  Keep in mind that DocuScan Plus is not as feature rich as Open Book, but it might well suffice for your needs if all you want to do is read simple documents.  Also keep in mind that Serotek is on shaky ground these days, having recently lost its chief programmer, and so its future is uncertain.  For more info about DocuScan Plus:

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:41 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

For the member who told me it was now one fifty, I just called vfo and it is now one thousand   Things are really changing at vfo.

Jeff




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ACB podcast

Matt
 

Ok, this podcast talks about a couple of things one is the NLS and BARD. The other that really is interesting to me is the New Amazon TV that talks.

So this is my question has anyone got one yet and what is their experience with it?

Also have not finish listening to the podcast I just wonder will this work with things like DIRECTV and Dish network and over the air antenna ?

Also wondering if  Crist from mystic access would be getting one and doing a podcast on it and maybe doing a tutorial on it?

See link to podcast below.

 

ACB Podcast

 

http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/podcast/2017-09-01.mp3

 

 

 

Matt

Matt.from.florida@...

 


Re: creating folders in an explorer window

Keith S
 


thanks this will be handy to know.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] creating folders in an explorer window

Also, Pressing the Control + Shift then tapping the letter N will
create a new folder in the directory your currently viewing and it
even works on the desktop.

HTH,
Blaster



On 9/12/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> No, but my sequence, home then control space will make sure nothing is
> selected.  At times, people have more than one item selected.  Home makes
> sure only one item is selected.  Control space bar unselects that one item.
>
>
> Gene
> ------ Original Message -----
>
> From: Keith S
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 6:48 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] creating folders in an explorer window
>
>
> is there a hotkey that will unselect an item if it is highlighted?
>
> Thanks
>
> Keith
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ann Parsons
>   To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 6:08 AM
>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] creating folders in an explorer window
>
>
>   Hi all,
>
>   Keith, make sure that when you are in the folder where you want to
>   create a new folder, that no item is selected.  this is the crucial
>   point of using the context menu.  If you have an item selected in a
>   folder, you will get all the options for doing things to that specific
>   item.  If you have no items selected, you'll get options for things you
>   can do within that folder, i.e. creating a subfolder.
>
>   Ann P.
>
>   --
>   Ann K. Parsons
>   Portal Tutoring
>   ** New EMAIL:  akp@...
>   web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
>   Skype: Putertutor
>
>   "All that is gold does not glitter,
>   Not all those who wander are lost."
>
>
>
>



Re: cost of open book

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

I am totally blind and do not use a fixed camera or a stand. most times i get excellent quality scans with help of the field of view report.



On 9/13/2017 6:33 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
 
I suspect that many “blind” folks who have success with the KNFB reader app for the IPhone are actually partially sighted  or low vision and so have enough vision to position the camera properly over the document.  But if you are totally blind, a dedicated scanner or camera on a fixed tripod would probably work better.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book
 

 

If you don’t have a stand to hold the phone steady in one place, then getting good results with the phone is a shot in the dark at best. KNFB reader’s quality compared to it’s cost is not a feasible choice at all. Not to mention the process of transferring documents scanned with a phone to a computer. Nearly all documents that I scan need to be saved as a Word or Text file to be referenced back to at a later time. I may not purchase another expensive smart phone, All I really ever use it for is making calls. Yes, the GPS functionality, and a few of the gadgets that you can put on it are fine, but they do not function as well as a stand alone device that was developed specifically for it’s intended use, say a color identifier. What the hell is the color Mountain Mist or  Precious Persimmon anyway?

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

I get very good scanned results with my phone. I position the camera until I get a nearly perfect field of view report then take the picture.

 

 

On 9/12/2017 4:41 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

I don’t find that scanning stuff with my phone works well, most of the time.  Pam.

 

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:11 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

or for $250 you could get a moto e 4th gen plus smartPhone, plus knfb reader. then scan your stuff and save to dropbox to sink to the computer.

 

 

On 9/12/2017 4:00 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 

If you don’t want to spend $1000 to purchase a new copy of Open Book, another text to speech program you might want to consider is DocuScan Plus from Serotek, which only costs $400.  Keep in mind that DocuScan Plus is not as feature rich as Open Book, but it might well suffice for your needs if all you want to do is read simple documents.  Also keep in mind that Serotek is on shaky ground these days, having recently lost its chief programmer, and so its future is uncertain.  For more info about DocuScan Plus:

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:41 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

For the member who told me it was now one fifty, I just called vfo and it is now one thousand   Things are really changing at vfo.

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Re: cost of open book

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

I am totally blind. I have 0 vision. and I can position the camera for the knfb app nearly perfect. do you know what the field of view report is used for in knfb reader apps? the field of view report is used to help totally blind people accurately position the camera. and it works excellent. totally blind people can use phone cameras successfully and perfectly fine. this idea that you have to be partially sighted or fully sighted to use a camera is just plain wrong and misleading.



On 9/13/2017 6:33 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
 
I suspect that many “blind” folks who have success with the KNFB reader app for the IPhone are actually partially sighted  or low vision and so have enough vision to position the camera properly over the document.  But if you are totally blind, a dedicated scanner or camera on a fixed tripod would probably work better.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book
 

 

If you don’t have a stand to hold the phone steady in one place, then getting good results with the phone is a shot in the dark at best. KNFB reader’s quality compared to it’s cost is not a feasible choice at all. Not to mention the process of transferring documents scanned with a phone to a computer. Nearly all documents that I scan need to be saved as a Word or Text file to be referenced back to at a later time. I may not purchase another expensive smart phone, All I really ever use it for is making calls. Yes, the GPS functionality, and a few of the gadgets that you can put on it are fine, but they do not function as well as a stand alone device that was developed specifically for it’s intended use, say a color identifier. What the hell is the color Mountain Mist or  Precious Persimmon anyway?

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

I get very good scanned results with my phone. I position the camera until I get a nearly perfect field of view report then take the picture.

 

 

On 9/12/2017 4:41 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

I don’t find that scanning stuff with my phone works well, most of the time.  Pam.

 

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:11 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

or for $250 you could get a moto e 4th gen plus smartPhone, plus knfb reader. then scan your stuff and save to dropbox to sink to the computer.

 

 

On 9/12/2017 4:00 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 

If you don’t want to spend $1000 to purchase a new copy of Open Book, another text to speech program you might want to consider is DocuScan Plus from Serotek, which only costs $400.  Keep in mind that DocuScan Plus is not as feature rich as Open Book, but it might well suffice for your needs if all you want to do is read simple documents.  Also keep in mind that Serotek is on shaky ground these days, having recently lost its chief programmer, and so its future is uncertain.  For more info about DocuScan Plus:

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:41 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] cost of open book

 

For the member who told me it was now one fifty, I just called vfo and it is now one thousand   Things are really changing at vfo.

Jeff



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Re: Cost of New IPhone

Carlos
 

LOL isn't that basically what I said?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pablo Morales" <pablocmd2014@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone


Ok, but it is not the best choice. That is the choice that they have, not
the best choice.
It is like everything. If you have no many choices, you have to pick up what
ever you can get, most part of the times it will not be the best.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

And the fact is that as with many expensive items, what is most cost
effective is not necessarily most realistic. If you don't have $700 to
spend out of pocket, then you don't have it. If you don't have $30000 to
spend for that new car, then you pay it off over a period of time despite
interest rates as most people do.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hudson" <rob_hudson_3182@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone


Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Most people get an iPhone the same way they get any other expensive
smart phone, as part of a contract or deal with the cell provider.
Yeah but then you get gouged with interest and other surcharges, which makes
the phone more expensive over the term of the contract lol. So it's probably
cheaper relatively speaking to just plunk down your credit card and go on
that canned tuna diet.









Re: Cost of New IPhone

Lenron
 

Wow so many people wining about how others choose to spend cash. Why
does it matter if someone can afford the extra 23 dollars a month to
lease the latest and greatest device and then purchase it at the end
or trade up for the next that's totally up to them. Just like if you
got 600 bucks or more laying around and you wish to drop that all at
once on a device. Personally if I plan on staying with a company for a
while why not take advantage of the deals I can get by leasing. Makes
it so I don't have to drop that cash on a device out right if I want
to trade up every year. Everyone has some kind of vice I am sure they
would spend money on anyways. So you just have to think what's
important to you and move on. As far as pictures they are a good way
to preserve a memory. I suppose audio clips would do they same for a
blind person, but you might want pictures for sharing. Who knows how
good AI will be at telling you what a photo is in a few years. Tap tap
see seems to do a pretty good job now.

On 9/13/17, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@...> wrote:
Yes, they do. When every month they have problems to pay their bills, or
when they try to buy something and they can't save money is when they
notice
it. The problem is that they are not understanding how works this business.
We notice it, but whe are not thinking why it happen.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Most people don't notice that, or they don't seem to care, as long as they
don't see the price all at once. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Most people get an iPhone the same way they get any other expensive
smart phone, as part of a contract or deal with the cell provider.
Yeah but then you get gouged with interest and other surcharges, which
makes
the phone more expensive over the term of the contract lol. So it's
probably
cheaper relatively speaking to just plunk down your credit card and go on
that canned tuna diet.




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Re: determining CPU and ram on windows 8.1 computer

Keith S
 

good to know.  I've noticed that 8.1 is a snail compared to xp.
 
thanks again
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] determining CPU and ram on windows 8.1 computer

 

Try pressing the Windows key to open the start menu and type “System information” with no quotes into the search field then press enter. This will open the system summary window. Tab one time and then you should be able to arrow through all of the information about your computer. It will tell you what type of processor you have and at what speed it is running in GHz. You will also see how much RAM (memory) that you have installed, how much is being used and how much is available. Just ALT + F4 to close when you have the information that you need. If your computer is currently running Windows 8.1, then it will run Windows 10 with no problems. Win 10 is  smaller and less resource demanding than Windows 8.1 is.

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] determining CPU and ram on windows 8.1 computer

 

In windows 8.1 how might I determine the CPU speed/power, and the ram on the machine?

 

I'm sure my system can support windows 10, but want to make sure before I start the install.

 

Thanks

 

keith


Re: creating folders in an explorer window

Keith S
 

gotcha thanks
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] creating folders in an explorer window

No, but my sequence, home then control space will make sure nothing is selected.  At times, people have more than one item selected.  Home makes sure only one item is selected.  Control space bar unselects that one item. 
 
Gene
------ Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] creating folders in an explorer window

is there a hotkey that will unselect an item if it is highlighted?
 
Thanks
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] creating folders in an explorer window

Hi all,

Keith, make sure that when you are in the folder where you want to
create a new folder, that no item is selected.  this is the crucial
point of using the context menu.  If you have an item selected in a
folder, you will get all the options for doing things to that specific
item.  If you have no items selected, you'll get options for things you
can do within that folder, i.e. creating a subfolder.

Ann P.

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Re: Cost of New IPhone

Gerald Levy
 

I've heard of people who barely subsist on SSI or SSDI, yet walk around with the latest IPhone. How is this possible?

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Yes, they do. When every month they have problems to pay their bills, or
when they try to buy something and they can't save money is when they notice
it. The problem is that they are not understanding how works this business.
We notice it, but whe are not thinking why it happen.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Most people don't notice that, or they don't seem to care, as long as they
don't see the price all at once. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Most people get an iPhone the same way they get any other expensive
smart phone, as part of a contract or deal with the cell provider.
Yeah but then you get gouged with interest and other surcharges, which makes
the phone more expensive over the term of the contract lol. So it's probably
cheaper relatively speaking to just plunk down your credit card and go on
that canned tuna diet.




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Re: My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out

Gerald Levy
 

 
But in many cases, you are helpless when you deal with these computer manufacturers.  If you explain to the customer support agent over the phone that you are blind and that you cannot perform the diagnostic troubleshooting yourself because you don’t have sighted help available, they will just tell you tough noogies, we can’t send a technician until you get someone to perform the troubleshooting for you. None of the computer makers, as far as I am aware, have made any effort to make their proprietary troubleshooting procedures blind friendly.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out
 

 

Pam,

what do you mean?

You can't expect the support rep   to send out an engineer without first doing some trouble shooting.

And I have been able to understand all the agents who have handled my calls.

Just because where blind we shouldn't play the helpless card.
 
On 12/09/2017 9:50 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

Good for you.  Some of us can’t deal with those people we can’t understand, and who can’t understand us, and who always expect us to have somebody to look at the screen for us.  Pam.
 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out
 

I think that getting an extended support plan is very much worth it.

 

Both my desktop and laptop have had  major repairs done.

 

First the hard drive failed then there was a over heating issue.

 

Why are people hating on Dell?

 

I've personally had nothing but great customer service and the products work well.

 

On 11/09/2017 8:23 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
 
I disagree that an extended warranty on a desktop PC is a waste of money.  During the five year period that was covered by the extended warranty I took out on my previous Dell desktop, it was repaired free of charge twice onsite, once to replace a failing hard drive, and the second time to replace a defective DVD drive.  According to Consumer Reports, Dell actually has better customer support than most of the other PC makers.  And according to my techie friend, all PC makers,require customers to perform diagnostic testing, which, for the most part requires sighted assistance, before they will send a service technician to the customer’s home or place of business.  Besides Dell, HP and Linobo have this policy.  Of course, you could always try to fix a broken PC yourself if you are handy.  But good luck getting your PC to work again if you don’t know exactly what you’re doing.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out
 
There are a lot of satisfied blind Dell owners.  Before deciding what to do or not to do in terms of purchasing a computer, the only way to make an informed, and not an emotional decision, is to try to find out what other companies do in terms of sending people to service a machine.  As I said, I would never waste money buying a service agreement from any company and if you don't do that, this problem might be moot.  Dell or other companies might be very happy to send a tech out if you were paying for the specific visit and not having the visit be made under extended warranty. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out
 
It’s just my opinion, but I think your big mistake was in buying a Dell.  By the way: they can do more stuff, because they set up my whole computer and got it running and stuff.  As far as just replacing parts, maybe they are not supposed to do more, but some of them do.  A guy who came to replace a keyboard in a laptop for me also got rid of the box that demands a password, and also got rid of that MSN messenger that was on there.  Maybe he didn’t get rid of it, but he made them so they didn’t pop up.  When I needed a defective drive replaced, the guy set up my email and I think he put back some of the stuff that was in there on the old drive.  That was not the same guy.  So, it depends on how strictly they stick to the rules.  But yes, I believe you did get screwed if that computer was brand new and it was like that.  Pam.
 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:44 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] My brand new laptop,Dell, has crapped out
 

I got the laptop this week and my friend/tutor spent  six hours setting it up.  I was thrilled.  I purchased a oneyear”prime”service plan which promised in home service.  I called them and after spleaking to five people before I was in the correct department,  I was informed that I needed a sighted person to do some kind of trouble shooting before someone would come out.  The field person only replaces parts.  They say that he can’t do any trouble shooting.  I feel that I’ve been screwed and told them so.  This is the sixth or seventh dell I’ve bought and the last one.

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Re: Cost of New IPhone

Pablo Morales
 

Yes, they do. When every month they have problems to pay their bills, or
when they try to buy something and they can't save money is when they notice
it. The problem is that they are not understanding how works this business.
We notice it, but whe are not thinking why it happen.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Most people don't notice that, or they don't seem to care, as long as they
don't see the price all at once. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Most people get an iPhone the same way they get any other expensive
smart phone, as part of a contract or deal with the cell provider.
Yeah but then you get gouged with interest and other surcharges, which makes
the phone more expensive over the term of the contract lol. So it's probably
cheaper relatively speaking to just plunk down your credit card and go on
that canned tuna diet.




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Re: Cost of New IPhone

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Sis Janet wrote in part:

"Watch those restless legs they might cost you some money! Lol! My
restless legs will be on the prow tomorrow at the T-Mobile store!"

Hmm, whilst there, could you convince TMobile to donate a Galaxy Note8 to
EPF? Who knows ... They might donate two, one for you and one for me!

A donation from TMobile to the Empty Pocket Foundation will be a good tax
write-off for TMobile in 2017 and maybe that will challenge me to write
better since I'll be using a note just like a book!

As for my restless legs, it's a shame they don't speak or understand
English! They speak a deprecated language that's nameless, but my poor,
memory-chip infested brain keeps obeying their commands! I'll sentence them
to three months in jail for daring to wander.

As for yesterday's wine, if you still wish to explore Android, the likes of
LG K10 or LG V10 should be reasonably-priced now especially since the LG V30
will soon hit the marketplace. You could also look at Galaxy S6 although it
doesn't have an SD card slot. I personally won't touch a smart device
without one--I'm not OLD SCHOOL, I'm just irredeemably beyond ancient
school! In Android land, we still want to anoint you Senior Android
Apostle, so don't chicken out quite yet from exploring our wine offerings!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Cost of New IPhone

Pablo Morales
 

Ok, but it is not the best choice. That is the choice that they have, not
the best choice.
It is like everything. If you have no many choices, you have to pick up what
ever you can get, most part of the times it will not be the best.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone

And the fact is that as with many expensive items, what is most cost
effective is not necessarily most realistic. If you don't have $700 to
spend out of pocket, then you don't have it. If you don't have $30000 to
spend for that new car, then you pay it off over a period of time despite
interest rates as most people do.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hudson" <rob_hudson_3182@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cost of New IPhone


Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Most people get an iPhone the same way they get any other expensive
smart phone, as part of a contract or deal with the cell provider.
Yeah but then you get gouged with interest and other surcharges, which makes
the phone more expensive over the term of the contract lol. So it's probably
cheaper relatively speaking to just plunk down your credit card and go on
that canned tuna diet.

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