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Re: Chrome

David Moore <jesusloves1966@...>
 

Hi Joe!

Many of the commands are the same to use Chrome!

Here is a text tutorial that I wrote on using the Chrome browser that I will paste right in this message.

It answers all of your questions, and I take you through every tasks in Chrome and explain what I am doing and what your screen reader says. Chrome works great with all screan readers. Chrome is much more responsive than IE or Firefox. I can stream TV and Videos in Chrome, that I cannot stream in Firefox or IE. Chrome is much more secure than IE, especially!

Chrome has one vertical menu where everything is, and you get to it by just pressing Alt+F.

In this tutorial, I take you through every setting so you can customize Chrome to your liking. Also, Alt+D and CTRL+L will take you to the address bar. You can use the Address bar to do a general search as well.

Chrome has many extentions, and you can block most adds with Add Block Plus!

CTRL+J to get to downloads.

You do not use Alt+N in Chrome.

Here is my text tutorial right below this line that will take you through Chrome and show you everything.

Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser

By David Moore

This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.

I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both work the same in Chrome.

Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.

I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.

There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

 

Section One:

Launching Chrome:

One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say Chrome.

However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut icon on your desktop.

So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to open Chrome.

The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google Chrome icon on your desktop.

The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get undesirable results.

 

Section Two:

Bringing up a web site.

Press CTRL+L or Alt+D

and type the following:

www.freedomscientific.com

The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.

All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

 

Section Three:

The Virticle Chrome menu:

I will press Alt+F.

The Chrome menu is open.

This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down arrow through.

I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.

New Tab, CTRL+T.

You can press that command right from the web site you are on.

New Window, CTRL+N

You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here.

New incognito Window.

History sub menu.

I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!

History, CTRL+H

So, there is a key command for reading your history.

You can read a few sites you were on right here.

I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.

Downloads, CTRL+J

There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with Chrome.

Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.

I will press right arrow, to open this.

I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D

That command will bookmark the page you are reading.

Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B

That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to see. I do not want that.

Here is the important one.

manage bookmarks

The command is, CTRL+Shift+O

In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.

On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to your computer, so you can back them up.

That is all for manage bookmarks.

Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.

press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their corresponding folders.

Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.

Very important!

Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.

Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.

To save a web site as a bookmark,

Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.

I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!

I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we entered by just pressing alt.

The next few are very self explanatory.

The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.

I will press right arrow on this.

I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.

Next, Save to desktop.

This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This is how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.

It is hidden under this more tools submenu.

Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key.

Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so on.

These are the same as add ons, in IE.

I will press left arrow, to close the More Tools sub menu, and we are back to the virticle Chrome menu.

The last two that I will mention, are settings, and the help sub menu.

If you press the left arrow on the help sub menu, you can open the help system, just like in other programs, so that is all I will say about help.

Now, we will press enter on settings, and a web like page will open where the virtual cursor will turn on with JAWS, and NVDA will be in Brows mode.

 

Section Four:

Adjusting Settings and Advanced settings:

Now that this web page is open, I will just down arrow down the page and we will deal with each setting.

Important:

I have already signed into Chrome.

So now, arrow down until you hear sign into Chrome and press enter.

You just enter your email address and password, I think it has to be the same email address and password that you used to set up your Google account.

I am not sure about this.

You do not need to sign into Chrome, if you do, you can sync all of your activity between all devices that you have Chrome on. That is the only advantage of signing in.

I will continue with what I hear after you have signed in.

If you do not sign in, press H until you hear Appearance.

Each group of settings is a heading that you can get to by pressing H. This makes it very easy, because you just press H until you hear the group of settings you want to work with.

Now, because I have signed in, this is what I hear before getting to appearance.

The first thing you hear:

Settings.

That is the very top of the web page.

Down arrow, and you hear:

Main Menu Button.

That will just take you back to the virticle menu we were in.

If you down arrow again, you will just hear blank.

Down arrow, again, and you hear:

Settings again, but now, this is a heading. You can get here just by pressing H at the top of the page.

If you down arrow, you hear:

Search Settings.

This is where you can type in a setting that you want to change.

Down arrow again, and there is the edit field where you type in the setting you want to work with.

Down arrow again, and you hear another heading saying people.

Down arrow again, and I hear David Clickable.

This is because I have already signed into Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear my Gmail email address.

Again, this is because I have already signed into Chrome to sync my settings and all of that.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Edit person.

This is where I could change my name.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sign Out.

This is because I have already signed in to Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sync.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

On, Sync everything.

This is a combo box, where you can choose what to sinc; I chose everything in this combo box.

Again, all of this is because I have signed into Chrome already.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Sync button.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people clickable.

Don't worry about the clickables. There is a clickable for many things, but then there is the button you enter on right after that.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people button.

This is what you would press enter on to set up another user.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Import bookmarks and settings Clickable:

Down arrow again, and you actually hear

Import bookmarks and settings button.

Here, you press enter and import all of your bookmarks and settings from other Browsers like IE.

This is another way of doing this, because remember,

We had a choice of manage bookmarks in the book marks sub menu in the virticle menu.

There is more than one place to do things in Chrome.

Now, we have a series of headings, that you can just press H for heading, to get to.

Now, we have gotten to the appearance heading. Down arrow and you hear:

themes, which I did nothing with.

Next, you can open the Chrome web store. You can get hundreds of extentions, and more.

Then, you hear Themes button.

Do nothing with this.

Next, you hear:

Show home clickable.

Just skip that.

There are many buttons that say clickable, and then there is a button that you actually press enter on to work with it.

Just work with the buttons, and skip over these vclickables.

Down arrow, and you have an edit box where you can put in your home page you want to get to by pressing Alt+Home.

Next, there is the home button toggle.

Press the spacebar to turn this on or off. If it is on, you can have the home button show at the top of the Chrome Window.

I have it checked.

Now, there are two radio buttons, and I chose the one to enter with a custom web address.

Search Heading:

We are at another heading, where you can set your search Engine.

There is a combo box below, and I set it to Chrome, because I like to have my searches from the address bar done with Crome instead of Bing.

Next heading:

Default Browser.

Here, you can choose weather you want Chrome to be your default browser or not.

Just leave this alone if you do not want Chrome to be your default browser.

Next Important heading:

On Start up.

Here is where you put in your URL that you want to show as soon as you start Chrome.

There are three radio buttons to pick from, but I chose to open with a specific page or pages, which is the third radio button.

Under this, you can type in the URL of the web site that you want to open when you start Chrome.

Under this, there is a link where you can add more pages you want to show when Chrome starts up.

Now, we are up to the search engin heading.

This is a heading.

There are headings on this settings page.

I chose to use Google search engin in the address bar. This is a combo box.

The next heading, is on start up.

Finally, here is where you set up your home page.

There are three radio buttons here.

I chose the third one, to open a selected page or selected pages.

Next, I was able to enter:

www.Google.Com.

That is my home page that will open each time I start Chrome.

Next important group of settings, the advanced settings.

Now, you have to press enter on the advanced settings button before more headings of settings will show.

The Advanced settings are collapsed, so you have to press enter to show more headings of settings.

Now that these advanced settings are open, we get to the next heading of settings.

There is much more we can customize under the advanced settings.

Privacy and security heading:

Down arrow from here, and you hear:

Use a web service to resolve navigation errors.

You have a clickable, and a toggle.

Press spacebar to toggle this on or off.

Again, ignore the clickables.

Now you have:

Use a prodiction service to enable you in searches.

I left this unchecked.

Next, you have a setting to speed up the loading of web pages:

I checked this with spacebar.

The next three settings I just left alone.

I checked the one that says:

Use a web service to help with spelling.

I leave manage certificates alone.

Next, you have content settings, but this is not a new heading.

We are still working with the same heading.

The only thing of interest here, is the clear history button.

This was available in the virtical menu, so don't worry about this.

Now, we get to the next heading of settings.

Passwords and forms:

Under this heading, just make sure that you check to be able to have Chrome save passwords.

Languages Heading:

I did nothing with this.

Downloads heading:

This is where you choose where you want your downloads to be saved on your computer.

Printing heading:

I did nothing with this.

Accessibility heading:

I did nothing with this.

Now, we have the System heading:

Down arrow, and you hear:

Continue running background apps, when Google Chrome is Closed.

I have this unchecked.

Next,

Use hard ware excelloration when Available.

I have this checked.

Next, you hear:

Open proxy settings button.

I left this alone.

Last Heading LOL!

Reset.

Here, you can reset all settings back to their origional.

We are done with Settings.

Now, just press CTRL+F4 to get back to the Freedom Scientific Web site.

This settings web page, opens in another tab.

That is it for settings.

Notice, we made a lot of changes under the advanced settings. You cannot see these, unless you press enter to expand these.

Now, press the Alt key again. Up arrow once to get to the end of the menu where we were with the settings.

You see exit, up arrow and you see the help sub menu, right under the settings choice.

I press right arrow on this help sub menu, and you can enter on the help center to get a lot of help using Chrome.

To open a web site, just press CTRL+L or Alt+D and type the URL.

Chrome for me, is so much quicker with web sites that involve streamming TV and Watching movies, and so on.

For me, Chrome opens large news sites very quickly compared to IE.

Lastly, All JAWS and NVDA navigation key commands work in Chrome. For example, you can press F7 to open a list of links with JAWS, and the elements list with NVDA. All of that is the exact same.

This is the end of the tutorial.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joe Orozco
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Chrome

 

Hello,

 

For anyone using Chrome:

 

1. What are the main keystroke differences between Chrome and Internet

Explorer? For example, are there any keystrokes required to download

content, such as the Alt + N on IE? Would you still use the same Alt +

L to jump to the search bar to enter a new URL?

 

2. What current options are there to solving CAPTCHA?

 

3. Is the browser truly more responsive than IE or Firefox?

 

4. What privacy settings did you adjust to minimize the amount of

information you're sharing not only with third party sites, but also

with Google?

 

5. What accessible extensions can you recommend to minimize ads and

generally streamline page navigation?

 

6. At the moment, I have synchronized my Favorites between Firefox and

IE. Is there a way to synchronize between IE and Chrome?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Joe

 

 

 


Re: WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Gene
 

Here is the page that gives information about ESR versions and has links to download them. 
There are links to download the browser localized for a lot of languages.  Search the page for the word English and repeat the search until you get to the version of English you want.  I assume the links below the description are for different servers where you download that version.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Sorry about that. I would like the installed version. Also, please ignore the phone number in the signature. It so  good thing that it isn't my personal phone number.

--
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My Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/armando.vias
Armando
Google Voice: (478) 569-7111

Sent from my iPhone 6s

On Oct 29, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You get updates in the same way you always get updates.  You either let it update itself or set it to notify you when an update is available.  You didn't say whether you want the portable or the installed version.
 
Gene
----- original message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Can someone send me the link to the ESR version of Firefox 52? And how do I receive security updates?

--
"Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
My Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/armando.vias
Armando
Google Voice: (478) 569-7111

Sent from my iPhone 6s

On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You have to use an earlier version of Firefox.  I believe version 52 is the last one that works with Webvisum.  You can use a portable version of 52.x with Webvisum and the current version for your other browsing.  But since there are going to be accessibility problems with version 57, which hasn't been released yet, the best thing to do would be to use either the installed or portable version of Firefox that is the ESR version.  That version will receive security updates until next June.  It will work with Webvisum because it is version 52 that is used as the current ESR version.  You may want to use it as a portable version and continue to use it with Webvisumafter it is no longer the current ESR version.  You should set it not to update when the ESR version is going to update itself to another version of Firefox.  Meantime, don't set it not to update so you will receive security updates.
 
By next June, the accessibility versions with new versions of Firefox will, it is hoped, be resolved so you can go back to using the installed and updated version for general browsing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Hey. I am very frustrated about Webvisum. I can't log in.  I installed it from the Mozilla Website. The log in screen didn't pop up. I tried to log in through the preferences, but the OK button didn't activate!!! I am using Windows 10 with NVDA on a laptop. 
--
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My Facebook Page:
Armando
Google Voice: xxx-xxx-xxxx

Sent from my iPhone 6s


Re: WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Blaster
 

Here's the link to Firefox ESR.
The list is in alphabetical order and the US version isn't under
United States or America, it's under English US.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

HTH,
Blaster

On 10/29/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Webvisum doesn't work in Firefox versions 53.x and higher. The current
version of firefox isn't the problem. 57.x, the next full upgrade, has
accessibility proboems because Mozilla is making technical changes in the
browser for reasons I don't know enough about to discuss well. the
expectation is that Firefox will become properly accessible again in future
but for now, blind users are advised to use the ESR (extended release
version), which is using version 52 as the ESR version. It receives
security updates but the program itself won't update until next June.

Gene
----- Original essage -----

From: Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 6:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!


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On 29/10/2017, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@icloud.com> wrote:
Sorry about that. I would like the installed version. Also, please ignore
the phone number in the signature. It so good thing that it isn't my
personal phone number.

--
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Website: https://blindnessawarenessandmore.wordpress.com
Like my page on Facebook:
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Email: armando.l.vias@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone 6s

On Oct 29, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

You get updates in the same way you always get updates. You either let
it
update itself or set it to notify you when an update is available. You
didn't say whether you want the portable or the installed version.

Gene
----- original message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Can someone send me the link to the ESR version of Firefox 52? And how
do
I receive security updates?

--
"Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
Website: https://blindnessawarenessandmore.wordpress.com
Like my page on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/blindnessawarenessandmore
My Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/armando.vias
Armando
Google Voice: (478) 569-7111
Email: armando.l.vias@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone 6s

On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

You have to use an earlier version of Firefox. I believe version 52 is
the last one that works with Webvisum. You can use a portable version
of
52.x with Webvisum and the current version for your other browsing.
But
since there are going to be accessibility problems with version 57,
which
hasn't been released yet, the best thing to do would be to use either
the
installed or portable version of Firefox that is the ESR version. That
version will receive security updates until next June. It will work
with
Webvisum because it is version 52 that is used as the current ESR
version. You may want to use it as a portable version and continue to
use it with Webvisumafter it is no longer the current ESR version. You
should set it not to update when the ESR version is going to update
itself to another version of Firefox. Meantime, don't set it not to
update so you will receive security updates.

By next June, the accessibility versions with new versions of Firefox
will, it is hoped, be resolved so you can go back to using the
installed
and updated version for general browsing.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Hey. I am very frustrated about Webvisum. I can't log in. I installed
it
from the Mozilla Website. The log in screen didn't pop up. I tried to
log
in through the preferences, but the OK button didn't activate!!! I am
using Windows 10 with NVDA on a laptop.
--
"Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
Website: https://blindnessawarenessandmore.wordpress.com
Like my page on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/blindnessawarenessandmore
My Facebook Page:
Armando
Google Voice: xxx-xxx-xxxx
Email: armando.elevatorfan@icloud.com

Sent from my iPhone 6s

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Re: WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Gene
 

Webvisum doesn't work in Firefox versions 53.x and higher.  The current version of firefox isn't the problem.  57.x, the next full upgrade, has accessibility proboems because Mozilla is making technical changes in the browser for reasons I don't know enough about to discuss well.  the expectation is that Firefox will become properly accessible again in future but for now, blind users are advised to use the ESR (extended release version), which is using version 52 as the ESR version.  It receives security updates but the program itself won't update until next June.
 
Gene
----- Original essage -----
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Gene, do you mean that the current version of Firefox is entirely
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font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a
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On 29/10/2017, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...> wrote:
> Sorry about that. I would like the installed version. Also, please ignore
> the phone number in the signature. It so  good thing that it isn't my
> personal phone number.
>
> --
> "Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
> Website: https://blindnessawarenessandmore.wordpress.com
> Like my page on Facebook:
> https://www.facebook.com/blindnessawarenessandmore
> My Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/armando.vias
> Armando
> Google Voice: (478) 569-7111
> Email: armando.l.vias@...
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6s
>
>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>
>> You get updates in the same way you always get updates.  You either let it
>> update itself or set it to notify you when an update is available.  You
>> didn't say whether you want the portable or the installed version.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- original message -----
>> From: Armando
>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:04 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!
>>
>> Can someone send me the link to the ESR version of Firefox 52? And how do
>> I receive security updates?
>>
>> --
>> "Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
>> Website: https://blindnessawarenessandmore.wordpress.com
>> Like my page on Facebook:
>> https://www.facebook.com/blindnessawarenessandmore
>> My Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/armando.vias
>> Armando
>> Google Voice: (478) 569-7111
>> Email: armando.l.vias@...
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 6s
>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> You have to use an earlier version of Firefox.  I believe version 52 is
>>> the last one that works with Webvisum.  You can use a portable version of
>>> 52.x with Webvisum and the current version for your other browsing.  But
>>> since there are going to be accessibility problems with version 57, which
>>> hasn't been released yet, the best thing to do would be to use either the
>>> installed or portable version of Firefox that is the ESR version.  That
>>> version will receive security updates until next June.  It will work with
>>> Webvisum because it is version 52 that is used as the current ESR
>>> version.  You may want to use it as a portable version and continue to
>>> use it with Webvisumafter it is no longer the current ESR version.  You
>>> should set it not to update when the ESR version is going to update
>>> itself to another version of Firefox.  Meantime, don't set it not to
>>> update so you will receive security updates.
>>>
>>> By next June, the accessibility versions with new versions of Firefox
>>> will, it is hoped, be resolved so you can go back to using the installed
>>> and updated version for general browsing.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Armando
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:27 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!
>>>
>>> Hey. I am very frustrated about Webvisum. I can't log in.  I installed it
>>> from the Mozilla Website. The log in screen didn't pop up. I tried to log
>>> in through the preferences, but the OK button didn't activate!!! I am
>>> using Windows 10 with NVDA on a laptop.
>>> --
>>> "Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
>>> Website: https://blindnessawarenessandmore.wordpress.com
>>> Like my page on Facebook:
>>> https://www.facebook.com/blindnessawarenessandmore
>>> My Facebook Page:
>>> Armando
>>> Google Voice: xxx-xxx-xxxx
>>> Email: armando.elevatorfan@...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6s
>>
>


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Re: WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Eleni Vamvakari
 

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On 29/10/2017, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@icloud.com> wrote:
Sorry about that. I would like the installed version. Also, please ignore
the phone number in the signature. It so good thing that it isn't my
personal phone number.

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Sent from my iPhone 6s

On Oct 29, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

You get updates in the same way you always get updates. You either let it
update itself or set it to notify you when an update is available. You
didn't say whether you want the portable or the installed version.

Gene
----- original message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Can someone send me the link to the ESR version of Firefox 52? And how do
I receive security updates?

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Website: https://blindnessawarenessandmore.wordpress.com
Like my page on Facebook:
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Armando
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Email: armando.l.vias@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone 6s

On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

You have to use an earlier version of Firefox. I believe version 52 is
the last one that works with Webvisum. You can use a portable version of
52.x with Webvisum and the current version for your other browsing. But
since there are going to be accessibility problems with version 57, which
hasn't been released yet, the best thing to do would be to use either the
installed or portable version of Firefox that is the ESR version. That
version will receive security updates until next June. It will work with
Webvisum because it is version 52 that is used as the current ESR
version. You may want to use it as a portable version and continue to
use it with Webvisumafter it is no longer the current ESR version. You
should set it not to update when the ESR version is going to update
itself to another version of Firefox. Meantime, don't set it not to
update so you will receive security updates.

By next June, the accessibility versions with new versions of Firefox
will, it is hoped, be resolved so you can go back to using the installed
and updated version for general browsing.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Hey. I am very frustrated about Webvisum. I can't log in. I installed it
from the Mozilla Website. The log in screen didn't pop up. I tried to log
in through the preferences, but the OK button didn't activate!!! I am
using Windows 10 with NVDA on a laptop.
--
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Website: https://blindnessawarenessandmore.wordpress.com
Like my page on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/blindnessawarenessandmore
My Facebook Page:
Armando
Google Voice: xxx-xxx-xxxx
Email: armando.elevatorfan@icloud.com

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cannot get victor stream to connect to wifi

joanne
 

We have a new modem and computers successfully connected using our password.  We have tried again and again to get the Victor Streams to recognize the password and connect, but it keeps saying unable to connect and error.  I'm new to this and had to ask someone how to do upper case characters, and both of us who use victor streams did it the same way and still no connection.  Maybe we aren't switching from upper case to numeric mode right, I don't know.  I hope someone can please help troubleshoot this one.
 
Thanks.
 


Re: Note and Word Pad Help Please.

Janet
 

Hi,

Thank you for this.  I was in the save as dialog, and I did press shift tab, but I never thought of pressing shift plus tab 2 times though.  I did find where the files were being saved they were in a subfolder in the download folder.  So now, I have notepad and wordpad both saving them where I want them to be saved. 

 

Janet

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 7:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Note and Word Pad Help Please.

 

You don't have to save anything to do the following:

Open the save as dialog and, depending on your version of Windows, shift tab once or twice.  In Windows 7 and, I presume higher, it's twice.  I don't know about Vista.  You will be in the list of files and folders, the same kind of list as in my computer.  You can down and up arrow in the list.  If you recognize where you are, you will know where files are being saved.  If you don't, let us know and I can check to see how else to know.  As I recall, you can tab around the save as dialog and you'll find a field where the path to the folder and the folder are shown.  But for more information and to definitely verify what I'm saying, I'll wait to see if you want that information.

 

When finished looking around, press escape to close the dialog.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 6:44 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Note and Word Pad Help Please.

 

Hi Everyone,
Some years ago, I used to use word pad just to save a personal note, but suddenly for some reason I couldn't find where it was saved when I saved it, and now, I'm having the same problem with notepad as well.  I can't find where the text file is being saved.  If I try to save it again, I get a message saying this file already exist are you sure you want to replace this file, so apparently the text file is saved somewhere, but I just can't find it.  I've looked in the view menu as well as in the file menu, and the properties, but I couldn't find anything that might be of any help.  I still can't find where the text files are being saved, as I usually save them to my download folder.  I know apparently I must be doing something that is making these changes, but I don't know what that might be.
I'm running Windows 7 with JAWS 18.

Any thoughts please?
Janet
 note pad, but I just noticed when I save a note or



Chrome

Joe Orozco
 

Hello,

For anyone using Chrome:

1. What are the main keystroke differences between Chrome and Internet
Explorer? For example, are there any keystrokes required to download
content, such as the Alt + N on IE? Would you still use the same Alt +
L to jump to the search bar to enter a new URL?

2. What current options are there to solving CAPTCHA?

3. Is the browser truly more responsive than IE or Firefox?

4. What privacy settings did you adjust to minimize the amount of
information you're sharing not only with third party sites, but also
with Google?

5. What accessible extensions can you recommend to minimize ads and
generally streamline page navigation?

6. At the moment, I have synchronized my Favorites between Firefox and
IE. Is there a way to synchronize between IE and Chrome?

Thanks in advance!

Joe


Re: WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...>
 

Sorry about that. I would like the installed version. Also, please ignore the phone number in the signature. It so  good thing that it isn't my personal phone number.

--
"Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
My Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/armando.vias
Armando
Google Voice: (478) 569-7111

Sent from my iPhone 6s

On Oct 29, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You get updates in the same way you always get updates.  You either let it update itself or set it to notify you when an update is available.  You didn't say whether you want the portable or the installed version.
 
Gene
----- original message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Can someone send me the link to the ESR version of Firefox 52? And how do I receive security updates?

--
"Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
My Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/armando.vias
Armando
Google Voice: (478) 569-7111

Sent from my iPhone 6s

On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You have to use an earlier version of Firefox.  I believe version 52 is the last one that works with Webvisum.  You can use a portable version of 52.x with Webvisum and the current version for your other browsing.  But since there are going to be accessibility problems with version 57, which hasn't been released yet, the best thing to do would be to use either the installed or portable version of Firefox that is the ESR version.  That version will receive security updates until next June.  It will work with Webvisum because it is version 52 that is used as the current ESR version.  You may want to use it as a portable version and continue to use it with Webvisumafter it is no longer the current ESR version.  You should set it not to update when the ESR version is going to update itself to another version of Firefox.  Meantime, don't set it not to update so you will receive security updates.
 
By next June, the accessibility versions with new versions of Firefox will, it is hoped, be resolved so you can go back to using the installed and updated version for general browsing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Hey. I am very frustrated about Webvisum. I can't log in.  I installed it from the Mozilla Website. The log in screen didn't pop up. I tried to log in through the preferences, but the OK button didn't activate!!! I am using Windows 10 with NVDA on a laptop. 
--
"Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
My Facebook Page:
Armando
Google Voice: xxx-xxx-xxxx

Sent from my iPhone 6s


Re: WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Gene
 

You get updates in the same way you always get updates.  You either let it update itself or set it to notify you when an update is available.  You didn't say whether you want the portable or the installed version.
 
Gene
----- original message -----

From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Can someone send me the link to the ESR version of Firefox 52? And how do I receive security updates?

--
"Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
My Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/armando.vias
Armando
Google Voice: (478) 569-7111

Sent from my iPhone 6s

On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You have to use an earlier version of Firefox.  I believe version 52 is the last one that works with Webvisum.  You can use a portable version of 52.x with Webvisum and the current version for your other browsing.  But since there are going to be accessibility problems with version 57, which hasn't been released yet, the best thing to do would be to use either the installed or portable version of Firefox that is the ESR version.  That version will receive security updates until next June.  It will work with Webvisum because it is version 52 that is used as the current ESR version.  You may want to use it as a portable version and continue to use it with Webvisumafter it is no longer the current ESR version.  You should set it not to update when the ESR version is going to update itself to another version of Firefox.  Meantime, don't set it not to update so you will receive security updates.
 
By next June, the accessibility versions with new versions of Firefox will, it is hoped, be resolved so you can go back to using the installed and updated version for general browsing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Hey. I am very frustrated about Webvisum. I can't log in.  I installed it from the Mozilla Website. The log in screen didn't pop up. I tried to log in through the preferences, but the OK button didn't activate!!! I am using Windows 10 with NVDA on a laptop. 
--
"Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
My Facebook Page:
Armando
Google Voice: xxx-xxx-xxxx

Sent from my iPhone 6s


Re: duel (or more) band router

Jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Howdy, :)
It might very well be that your network card wouldn't have support for the 5 GHZ band. It's been around for a while now and even some of the older hardware that ran Vista/7 had support for it, but I've also seen some that didn't. Honestly though, unless you have a need for the extra band, if your hardware works good with what you have so far, I'd probably stick with it. When it comes to telling your computer to connect to the different bands though, if your wireless card had support for those bands and you had a router that could broadcast on the same bands, you'd see them show up in the list of access points when you scan for them.
Take care.

On 10/29/2017 10:52 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thanks.  And I'm wondering how to tell my wireless laptop to go to one or the other band?  My laptops are 6 and 11 years old and probably don't have any new fancy features.  But I like 'em and will continue using 'en.
 
Howard
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] duel (or more) band router

As a default, most wireless configurations are not set up in such a way as to jump between the two bands like that. This goes the same for laptops, tablets, Mobile devices such as phones, whatever. The purpose of the 5g band is for the extra speed, often being quite a bit faster than the 2.4 gigahertz band. The 5g band is typically much less saturated, having a lot more channel space and therefor being used a lot in areas where the 2.4 gigahertz band might be crowded in your area. It's also often the case that default configurations of routers might have one band used for access to normal users of the network and the second one used as a guest network, depending on if that separation of network users is important to you in your setup.

As an answer to the original question though, just as long as 2.4 GHZ works fine in the area and works ok on the devices connected to the router, it's perfectly fine to have a router that supports one band.
Take care.

On 10/28/2017 8:01 AM, Michael Boyd wrote:

 

Hi Howard,

 

The idea behind the dual band network is to give a better signal strength wherever you may be. When you are in close proximity to the router, your wireless device will automatically switch to the 5 GB band width connection and when you are not as close to the router it will switch to the 2.4 GB bandwidth connection. This all sounds good, but it has caused me some problems. If you use other wireless devices that need to communicate with your computer, such as a wireless printer, then when your computer switches to the 5 G band connection, it will not be able to “talk” to the printer which typically only uses the 2.4 G connection. I was experiencing this issue when using Comcast’s supplied modem/router combination device, and only solved it when I purchased my own set up which was only 2.4 G compatible. I do not see why these people keep coming up with these things to fix something that wasn’t broken to start with.

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 7:36 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] duel (or more) band router

 

I think it's time to purchase a new router. been using this one (dLink DI-524) for about 12 years. Yesterday the power supply quit. Was I ever lucky that I had another 5 volt supply here.

Question is: all the routers I see are duel band or tri band. Why do I need more than one band? I have only two laptops that occasionally connect via wi-fi. The rest of my machines are wired--no phones or other devices--except, I'm thinking of buying one of those alexa devices. Do I really need a router or maybe I could use a switch instead? I sure feel stupid.

Any thoughts, please.

Howard




Re: On Demand Wifi

Carolyn Arnold
 

You can get Cricket without a contract.

Are you in YHouston?

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] On Demand Wifi

Thanks for the info Carolyn, there's a Cricket store across
the street from the mall where the TMobil store is so I may
go there first and see if they have a trial period where I
can try the service.

Troy


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold
<4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:

Cricket does not require that you buy their phone, and if
you have
your bill taken from your credit card, they do not charge
tax, so my
bill is a straight $25.00, since I'm not using net; I
think if I had 1
gb it would be $30.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 7:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] On Demand Wifi

I live near Beaumont, in a little town named Nederland.

Ironically my dad's name was Harvey, and he passed away 11
years ago
but my mom likes to keep flowers on his grave, and he
never liked
flowers so before the storm we were joking that he was
coming to blow
his flowers away. After all it seems like every time she
puts new
flowers out there it either rains or the wind starts
blowing haha.

You mentioned you're with Cricket, do they require that
you buy their
phones to use their service? We had to buy new phones
when we went to
sprint, even though my iPhone was only 6 months old, and
after we
realized that we don't get good service at the church
we're living in
we checked at Wal-Mart with Straight Talk and we would've
had to buy
phones that they sell in order to get our phone numbers
transferred.
I'm having to use an iPhone 7 plus with sprint, but it's
too big for
me with the case I have on it so when we switch to TMobil
I'm going to
have them add their service to my 7 that's only 6 or 7
months old.

Troy


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Carolyn Arnold
<4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:

Where in Texas do you live?

I'm originally from Houston.

My cousin's church flooded, and they are having to meet
elsewhere, and
a lot of loving work going into trying to repair a whole
lot of
damage. Sad thing that storm was named Harvey. I was
married for 47
years to a man named Harvey.

Anyway, I have had good reports about Consumer. I think
that their
target market is senior citizens, and many, but not all,
don't use so
much data. That being said, they probably are going to
eventually have
to provide unlimited data, which would make one's bill be
higher, if
that was chosen.
As it is on Jim's plan, he just has 250 mb. He'd better
not use the
phone really often at the beauty shop to play Hearts, are
we'll be
automatically up to the next plan.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Troy
Burnham
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] On Demand Wifi

Hi Carolyn,

I'm using an iPhone with consumer cellular, and as I said
in a
previous message they transferred a TMobil phone number
over when I
switched.

Consumer is great, but I live in Texas where the floods
happened due
to the hurricane in August and because of the flood my
house was
damaged and is having to be rebuilt so I'm not living
there right now.
I'm living in the Sunday school room of the church I
attend, and the
church has wifi but I'm too far away from it to connect
so
I've had to
depend on my cell phone since the first of September.

I stream a lot of content through my phone, and that's
not
a problem
on wifi but without a wifi connection the streaming I was
doing took a
whole lot of data, and when I realized this was happening
I called
Consumer and found out that they don't have an unlimited
data plan.
This was in September and at that time the most data they
offered was
5 gigs.
They told me that they were getting new plans in October
and that one
of them was 10 gigs of data, but I was still in the
middle
of
September at the time and I needed more data then, plus
with no wifi
connection at all I wasn't even sure if 10 gigs would be
enough so I
had to switch. Unfortunately I switched to sprint on the
recommendation of one of my mom's co-workers and I
haven't
gotten good
reception since I switched. So now, as soon as I can get
the phones
unlocked from sprint on November 6 I'm going to switch to
TMobil.

I loved Consumer as long as I had access to wifi, and
they
did send me
a hot spot so that I'd hopefully be able to get online
with my
computers, but after I used up the 5 gigs of data they
gave me, in the
space of 8 days btw, Consumer slowed my data rate down so
much that I
basically couldn't do anything.

Troy


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Carolyn Arnold
<4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:

Troy, is Consumer Cellular your wireless carrier? If so,
what did you
do about getting a phone? My husband has it, and we'd
save
a little
bit of money by moving me over as a second line.
Consumer
thinks they
can do the transfer by phone. Our local store has
unsatisfactory
service, no rudeness or anything like that, it's just
that
the people
there are more familiar with the appliances and patio
furniture that
Sears sells than accessible phones other than smart
phones, of course.
Everyone I know who has Consumer Cellular as a carrier
has
given them
good reviews to me.

The phone I have has a few things that are Cricket
specific, but they
told me at Consumer that it wouldn't hurt anything to
try
to make the
transfer, so I am giving thought to doing that. Our
local
Cricket
store here though is great with helpful and
knowledgeable
people
working there.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Troy
Burnham
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 4:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] On Demand Wifi

I only paid $10 for the hot spot from Consumer Cellular
but then again
that's not one of the major cell carriers.

Troy


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Pamela Dominguez
<geodom@optonline.net> wrote:

I never heard of hot spots being as cheap as ten bucks.
I
heard of them costing something like fifty. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 1:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] On Demand Wifi

Rob, D&D do offer some things for Wi-Fi. However, Wi-Fi
is
not normally prepaid. I recommend, talking with a cell
provider, and
purchasing what they call a personal hotspot, this will
be
with a
limited amount of data, but it's also a very cheap
price.
Most
carriers, only charge maybe 10 bucks for this service. I
would
definitely look around at this option.
On Oct 27, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Rob Hudson
<rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:

They have throw away cell phones you can buy in
wallmart
and minute sim cards you can get in gas station. Do they
have similar
things for wi fi?
I can see some occasions in the next couple of months
where I will be away from my home internet. And I don't
really want to
get a full wi fi plan, but only buy a hot spot device,
and
pay for a
gig or two at a time.
What are my options, here?





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Re: WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...>
 

Can someone send me the link to the ESR version of Firefox 52? And how do I receive security updates?

--
"Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
My Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/armando.vias
Armando
Google Voice: (478) 569-7111

Sent from my iPhone 6s

On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You have to use an earlier version of Firefox.  I believe version 52 is the last one that works with Webvisum.  You can use a portable version of 52.x with Webvisum and the current version for your other browsing.  But since there are going to be accessibility problems with version 57, which hasn't been released yet, the best thing to do would be to use either the installed or portable version of Firefox that is the ESR version.  That version will receive security updates until next June.  It will work with Webvisum because it is version 52 that is used as the current ESR version.  You may want to use it as a portable version and continue to use it with Webvisumafter it is no longer the current ESR version.  You should set it not to update when the ESR version is going to update itself to another version of Firefox.  Meantime, don't set it not to update so you will receive security updates.
 
By next June, the accessibility versions with new versions of Firefox will, it is hoped, be resolved so you can go back to using the installed and updated version for general browsing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Hey. I am very frustrated about Webvisum. I can't log in.  I installed it from the Mozilla Website. The log in screen didn't pop up. I tried to log in through the preferences, but the OK button didn't activate!!! I am using Windows 10 with NVDA on a laptop. 
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Re: Installing TeamTalk on Vinux

Jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

I know that teamtalk has some sort of screen sharing/remote thing, but I've never tried it for it's accessibility. I'd think though, if it were accessible, that it would have the same sort of limitations that the other accessible remote options do. They'd require that a screenreader be installed on the remote machine, if only to intercept the commands that you use in the screenreader to navigate the interface. It would also have to have the ability to pipe the sound from the remote computer back to you, which is sort of what you'd asked originally. If instead you mean, could you be on a server with the person you were helping and here the sound from their computer through their microphone, then the answer is definitely yes. I feel like though that you'd want to have the audio piped back to you, similar to how it works in RDP, teamviewer, etc.
Take care. :)

On 10/29/2017 8:44 AM, George Martinez Sr wrote:

Nimer,  Jeremy  & all,

Team Talk is of great interest to me as a tool for remote connections. 

Currently I am using GoToMyPC but as you know as soon as I connect with my remote host JAWS stops speaking and I have to use what little vision I have left with MAGic.  My vision continues to decline and I am at the extreme on using some of my client’s computers as video/internet is nasty.

Does Team Talk offer me any hope to get sound in a remote connection?

George

 

 

 

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 11:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Installing TeamTalk on Vinux

 

That article actually doesn’t work. The documentation isn’t all that clear. I certainly was not able to get it working using those instructions

On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 1:42 AM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:

Have you been able to figure this out? If not, it would be a lot easier to talk through this either on Skype or on the phone. Otherwise, I can try writing up instructions later on.

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 9:02 PM Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:

There's certain parts of this article that might not apply to how you might want to go about downloading the application to your Linux machine, but take a look.
https://www.vultr.com/docs/setup-a-teamtalk-server-on-linux

The main thing to keep in mind is that you'd want to grab the version that's closest to what will run on your version of Linux, so probably Debian, being that the latest Vinux is based on Ubuntu. Download the package onto the machine using firefox, navigate to the download location in the file manager or inside the terminal and extract the archive and then you should be able to follow the instructions.
Take care.

 

On 10/28/2017 4:52 PM, Armando Maldonado wrote:

Hello, The server will be excellent, thanks.

armando

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Installing TeamTalk on Vinux

 

Hey,
It really depends on which part of TT you are wanting to install, the server or the client. For running a server of your own, I can dig up a link for it and send it to the list, but the client part of things is quite the pickle. Basically to get the client up and working as it should, I had to screw around with creating links to libraries that it said were missing, etc, but I can't recall what they were now.
Take care.

On 10/27/2017 5:01 PM, Armando Maldonado wrote:

Hello,

I just installed the latest build of Vinux on a laptop that is not being utilized enough and I've downloaded TeamTalk debian. I am asking if someone can please write me some steps to install TeamTalk on this machine? I have a folder called TeamTalk in my home directory, thanks.

Armando

 

 

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Re: internet explorer goes back to 100 percent volume when i don't want it to

Gene
 

You may have to set the volume in the player when using a site.  In Youtube, you should, I would think, be able to set the volume in the player on the site itself.  Other list members may know.  I've almost never done or tried to do so.  The level of the player may be controlled by a cookie on the site.  When you set whatever you are setting in Internet Explorer using the Windows volume control, you are, quite possible, changing a setting that reverts to what it was before because you didn't change the volume using the player on the site itself.
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
From: joanne
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] internet explorer goes back to 100 percent volume when i don't want it to

All volume controls work fine with my windows 7 computers except internet explorer.  If I open it and start a new session and, for instance, want to play a you tube video or other media, internet explorer blasts at 100 percent when that's not where I had it during last session.  As stated, any other programs remain at the volume I chose.  How do I get I.e. to stop reverting back to 100 percent volume?  Thanks.


Re: Installing TeamTalk on Vinux

Jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

That's why I stated that there might be parts of the article that wont apply. Unless there's the ability to install the tt server through apt, which as far as I know, there isn't, the instructions there should work fine. That is assuming that the latest Vinux still has the ability to also use init.d scripts, I don't think it's completely went over to using systemd, so yeah. Might you be willing to point out areas of the article that didn't work for you?


On 10/29/2017 1:43 AM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
That article actually doesn’t work. The documentation isn’t all that clear. I certainly was not able to get it working using those instructions
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 1:42 AM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:
Have you been able to figure this out? If not, it would be a lot easier to talk through this either on Skype or on the phone. Otherwise, I can try writing up instructions later on.
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 9:02 PM Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
There's certain parts of this article that might not apply to how you might want to go about downloading the application to your Linux machine, but take a look.
https://www.vultr.com/docs/setup-a-teamtalk-server-on-linux

The main thing to keep in mind is that you'd want to grab the version that's closest to what will run on your version of Linux, so probably Debian, being that the latest Vinux is based on Ubuntu. Download the package onto the machine using firefox, navigate to the download location in the file manager or inside the terminal and extract the archive and then you should be able to follow the instructions.
Take care.


On 10/28/2017 4:52 PM, Armando Maldonado wrote:

Hello, The server will be excellent, thanks.

armando

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Installing TeamTalk on Vinux

 

Hey,
It really depends on which part of TT you are wanting to install, the server or the client. For running a server of your own, I can dig up a link for it and send it to the list, but the client part of things is quite the pickle. Basically to get the client up and working as it should, I had to screw around with creating links to libraries that it said were missing, etc, but I can't recall what they were now.
Take care.

On 10/27/2017 5:01 PM, Armando Maldonado wrote:

Hello,

I just installed the latest build of Vinux on a laptop that is not being utilized enough and I've downloaded TeamTalk debian. I am asking if someone can please write me some steps to install TeamTalk on this machine? I have a folder called TeamTalk in my home directory, thanks.

Armando

 


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My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
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To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!
--
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Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!


Re: WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Gene
 

You have to use an earlier version of Firefox.  I believe version 52 is the last one that works with Webvisum.  You can use a portable version of 52.x with Webvisum and the current version for your other browsing.  But since there are going to be accessibility problems with version 57, which hasn't been released yet, the best thing to do would be to use either the installed or portable version of Firefox that is the ESR version.  That version will receive security updates until next June.  It will work with Webvisum because it is version 52 that is used as the current ESR version.  You may want to use it as a portable version and continue to use it with Webvisumafter it is no longer the current ESR version.  You should set it not to update when the ESR version is going to update itself to another version of Firefox.  Meantime, don't set it not to update so you will receive security updates.
 
By next June, the accessibility versions with new versions of Firefox will, it is hoped, be resolved so you can go back to using the installed and updated version for general browsing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Armando
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Hey. I am very frustrated about Webvisum. I can't log in.  I installed it from the Mozilla Website. The log in screen didn't pop up. I tried to log in through the preferences, but the OK button didn't activate!!! I am using Windows 10 with NVDA on a laptop. 
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Google Voice: xxx-xxx-xxxx

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internet explorer goes back to 100 percent volume when i don't want it to

joanne
 

All volume controls work fine with my windows 7 computers except internet explorer.  If I open it and start a new session and, for instance, want to play a you tube video or other media, internet explorer blasts at 100 percent when that's not where I had it during last session.  As stated, any other programs remain at the volume I chose.  How do I get I.e. to stop reverting back to 100 percent volume?  Thanks.


WEBVISUM FRUSTRATION!!!

Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...>
 

Hey. I am very frustrated about Webvisum. I can't log in.  I installed it from the Mozilla Website. The log in screen didn't pop up. I tried to log in through the preferences, but the OK button didn't activate!!! I am using Windows 10 with NVDA on a laptop. 
--
"Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness."
My Facebook Page:
Armando
Google Voice: xxx-xxx-xxxx

Sent from my iPhone 6s


Re: Note and Word Pad Help Please.

Gene
 

Open notepad.  Open the save as dialog.
 
Shift tab twice and you will be in the folder where the file is.  if you want to move it somewhere so you know where it is, cut it as you would cut any file.  Then, in Windows Explorer or computer, or whatever my computer is called in Windows 7, open the drive and folder where you want the file and paste it.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Note and Word Pad Help Please.

Hi all,

In win 7, I have created a file in notepad; saved it wherever; and now can't
find it.  I have used the search box that comes up when I press the windows
key.  lots of similar files show up but now the one I want.  On this
machine, there are more than one "My Documents" folder and at least one
that's just "Documents".  The system will not let me into one of those "My
Documents" folders:  "Access Denied".  What is this?  It's my computer!  I
could back over it with my jeep!  Who can stop me from accessing a folder?
I think I hate this "Windows" more and more.

Howard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Note and Word Pad Help Please.


> Hi all,
>
> Windows programs save all files in 'documents' unless you tell them
> otherwise.  Depending on your OS it's either 'documents' or 'my
> documents'.  This of course is in c:\user\your-name\documents or in 'This
> PC' under documents.
>
> Why on earth would you look in the view menu.  That's for how the document
> appears on the screen.,  It has nothing to do with where it's saved.
>
> Ann P.
>
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