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Happy Birthday Carlos!

Janet
 

Hi Carlos,
Happy Birthday. I like many still wish you were here, and I miss not seeing your messages sent to the list you created for all of us, and how all of us followed you from blindtech. Carlos, I want you to know I learn so much from you, and I am greatful to you for that, and I will always remember what I learned from you. Carlos, you were always there to help, rather it was day or night! I used to wonder if you slept at the computer! Lol! Carlos, you were such a kind, generous, patient person, you were one of a kind! I'm sure by now you have received your rewards. I think you touched so many people's lives more than you thought, but I'm sure you know that now. Even though, I know your not physically here with all of us, I do firmly believe you are with us in spirit. Carlos, I know death is a part of life, but I'm sorry to say, I don't like that part of life. I'm sure by now you have Heaven all wired up with a network, and I would be willing to bet they have superb Information technology thanks to you! I guess someone thought you deserved more than what earth had to offer. You have no more pain, suffering, and that is the only thing that makes me happy about your passing. Carlos, your friend Mike Be, was forwarding the email messages from Melissa letting us know how you were doing, and Mike even gave your last name, so now, when I Pray, I can say this Prayer is for Carlos Nazario instead of saying for Carlos who was the owner of TechTalk. You have a good friend in Mike B. Some of those Prayers coming up there for you are from me, and they will continue.
I miss you!
God Bless you Carlos, and Rest in Peace.
From your always friend Janet


Re: surface tablet

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

As I said, the surface and surface 2 would, for me, be out of the question at any price. They are basically landfill material. The Surface Pro, and my temptation would be to say the surface 3 and surface pro 2, at least with I3 and I5, are on the border line of what I would get. The surface pro 3 and 4, running whatever processor, would be, in my view, worth $150 or more. This is all assuming that I had the computer in front of me and could run my own tests on it. The usual caveats about SSDs being consumable, tablets being easy to damage because they're used away from a desk and in bad environments, windows needing to be formatted every year or two just on principle... all those things still apply. You're basically buying a laptop. There's nothing special about a surface no matter how much Microsoft argues to the contrary, it's a laptop with all its guts in the screen. I always treat it like a regular laptop purchase.
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 5:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] surface tablet

Hi,

Thanks. What are the sweet models?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 11/6/17, Aman Singer <aman.singer@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Michael,

You write:

Pretty much any of them would be worth $150. If this one has a decent
processor, then I say go with it.

With respect, I must disagree. The Surface and surface 2 I wouldn't
take as a gift. Certainly, I wouldn't take it as a blind person and I
probably wouldn't even take it as a gift as a sighted person except
for a child who wished only to play media and, even then, I would
consider the child's needs before I took it. Microsoft discontinued
those and killed the operating system for excellent reasons. I
certainly wouldn't pay $150 for it. The Surface 3 isn't as bad, and I
would be a bit tempted at that price. The first Pro would be the same.
The pro 2 and pro 3, though, would, I think, be worth at least a bit
more than $150 depending on any damage done to them. I would definitely have a look at the model before buying.
Aman



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 4:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] surface tablet


What model of the Surface is this? Pretty much any of them would be
worth $150. If this one has a decent processor, then I say go with
it. I just recently sold one that I had been using for a little over a
year. It was running Windows 10, and I also had installed Jaws and
Openbook on it. It handled these with no problems. I also had
Microsoft Office on the tablet and it worked flawlessly. In my opion,
if you do not use or can't afford the iPad, then the Surface is the
way to go. It basically has no learning curve to it if you already use a Windows based PC. Hth.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 10:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] surface tablet

Hello,

Question, does anyone have surface tablets? If so, how do you like them?
What do they run? Someone I know saw one that was $900, guy was
selling it for $150, the person I know bought it. They now want to
offload it. Is this something I should snap up?

Thanks.
Dave.











Re: surface tablet

David Mehler
 

Hi,

Thanks. What are the sweet models?

Thanks.
Dave.

On 11/6/17, Aman Singer <aman.singer@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Michael,

You write:

Pretty much any of them would be worth $150. If this one has a decent
processor, then I say go with it.

With respect, I must disagree. The Surface and surface 2 I wouldn't take as
a gift. Certainly, I wouldn't take it as a blind person and I probably
wouldn't even take it as a gift as a sighted person except for a child who
wished only to play media and, even then, I would consider the child's needs
before I took it. Microsoft discontinued those and killed the operating
system for excellent reasons. I certainly wouldn't pay $150 for it. The
Surface 3 isn't as bad, and I would be a bit tempted at that price. The
first Pro would be the same. The pro 2 and pro 3, though, would, I think, be
worth at least a bit more than $150 depending on any damage done to them. I
would definitely have a look at the model before buying.
Aman



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Michael Boyd
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 4:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] surface tablet


What model of the Surface is this? Pretty much any of them would be worth
$150. If this one has a decent processor, then I say go with it. I just
recently sold one that I had been using for a little over a year. It was
running Windows 10, and I also had installed Jaws and Openbook on it. It
handled these with no problems. I also had Microsoft Office on the tablet
and it worked flawlessly. In my opion, if you do not use or can't afford the
iPad, then the Surface is the way to go. It basically has no learning curve
to it if you already use a Windows based PC. Hth.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Mehler
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 10:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] surface tablet

Hello,

Question, does anyone have surface tablets? If so, how do you like them?
What do they run? Someone I know saw one that was $900, guy was selling it
for $150, the person I know bought it. They now want to offload it. Is this
something I should snap up?

Thanks.
Dave.











Re: windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless keyboard and opening folders

 

Okay, that does make sense. As I mentioned before I'm frustrated and
confused as to what exactly is happening.
I used to be able to check that stuff before windows 10 so I will have
to research that to see.
What is also frustrating is that it is not doing it right now....

On 11/6/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Temperature doesn't cause that behavior. If a machine gets too warm, it may
spontaneously reboot but not lag.

Do you know how to see how much processor power is being used? If you want
to know, I'll let others discuss that since I don't have Windows 10. But
during times of lag, it might be useful to see how much processor power is
being used. It might also be useful to see what is using it. But again,
I'll let Windows 10 users discuss that.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Missa
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 4:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless
keyboard and opening folders


My issue seems to be that it doesn't do that all of the time and I'm
having trouble pin pointing exactly what is causing the lag. I just
switched between my wireless and the laptop on board keyboard and
typed and they both can't seem to keep up with my typing or when I'm
using single letter navigation plus ctrl and the arrow keys. It is
like a half second of lag which is frustrating because this is
supposed to be a new computer and it its being slower than my machine
that is five years old.

I think it is just being laggy the warmer my laptop gets maybe?

On 11/6/17, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I have defender on (up to date) and no virus was found in any of the
previous scans that my computer had done.
I also have the latest version of malware bytes,(3.2.2 with
definitions up to date) which is paid and running its own updates,
and nothing was found then either. I'm running a scan now just because
and so far nothing has been found.
I don't go to many sites except amazon, gmail, bookshare, goodreads,
bard, and google for the most part. I usually try to be cautious when
I browse and don't go to sketchy seeming sites.
I updated to the latest version of NVDA last night and got reminded of
why I hadn't updated ... the stupid non reporting thing it does
sometimes with firefox which renders single letter navigation off and
the only way to rectify it is to restart firefox which is a pain in
the butt.

I ran through my own checklist, but I'm sure I missed something so
your help is appreciated.



On 11/6/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:
also lets start from the basics.
did you check for a virus or malware?

On 11/6/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I don't know if you could have figured it out if you could see. Don't
ever
accept manufacturer updates unless you know there is a problem that
matters
that they will solve. I don't even allow manufacturer updates utility
to
run. Don't update drivers unless you know there is a problem that
matters
that updated drivers will solve or that there is a new ability or
feature
that new drivers will provide that you want. There may be a solution
to
the
problem you are having that doesn't involve trying to put the old bios
back
on the machine, I don't know. But this reflexive response that a lot
of
people have, update things like drivers, bios, and other such things
just
because there is an update is a bad idea. Updating programs that want
to
update is at times important, such as in the case of a browser, for
security
vulnerabilities. Routers and modems update for that reason, too. But
you
have seen the results of just updating something when you are not aware
of
or don't, in fact, have any problems, just because an update is
available.


I'm not saying that updating something won't solve the problem you have
and
I don't know if the other possible solution, going back to an older
version
of BIOS, the one you were using can be done. If it can, you wouldn't
have
to update other things. Also, I don't know what has been done since
the
BIOS uupdate. The people working on the machine may have made changes
that
won't work properly if the BIOS is returned to the previous version.
If
So,
they may be able to undo what they did.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Missa
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 11:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
wireless
keyboard and opening folders


My problems with my laptop started last month when lenovo put out an
update for the bios and I hit okay on the update before hearing that
it was updating the Bios too.
My laptop kept doing the lagging with explorer and it was getting
harder and harder to get any feedback from NVDA until eventually my
sighted friend couldn't help me because it locked up.
It was like it finally wound down or something.
I can't really say exactly what occured since I wasn't able to sit
and see or ask questions bout what all he had done. He apparently did
some work on it, I had given it to him to have him take it to the shop
he uses, and him and his son tried to get it working also.
It is hard to have someone give you feedback for something they're
doing. It is so frustrating to me since I'm mostly sure that if I
still had my vision I could've figured it out and not been without my
computer for over a month.

How am I to update my chipset? I'm not exactly sure what you are
meaning with that line. When my computer was repaired he said he
updated everything with the laptop. The keyboard works fine with my
older computer, but that computer has the keyboard correctly installed
with logitech options. Would that make any difference you think?


On 11/5/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:
hi. although people will be against me for saying this but i would
suggest you update the bios and chipset drivers.
i have seen a bios upgrade solving problems with sleep and hibernation
on computers.
also as you have latency problems with a wireless keyboard which is
connected via usb via dongal i would suggest you upgrade your chipset
driver.
i would also recommend you upgrade to windows 10 fall creators update
version 1709 and see if the problem is still there.

On 11/6/17, Missa <Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I had already tried that when I started to have issues with explorer
and it didn't work. Restarting the computer seems to be the only
thing
that will.

I updated NVDA and windows essentials app to the latest versions and
so far so goodd....
On 11/5/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Or try restarting NVDA and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 8:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
wireless
keyboard and opening folders



I don't know why you have the problem coming out of sleep. If you
are
using
a keyboard such as a wireless keyboard, try using the actual
built-in
keyboard when this happens. If you still get a lag, then it's
nothing
to
do
with the keyboard. if you don't, then there is something that isn't
resuming from sleep properly affecting the keyboard. If we rule out
the
keyboard and if this only happens in Windows Explorer, then you
might
be
able to work around the problem by closing Windows Explorer and
running
it
again. You wouldn't have to shut down and it would be faster and
more
convenient. I don't haveWindows 10 so I'll let others explain how
to
do
this.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Missa <mailto:Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com>

Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:38 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
wireless
keyboard and opening folders



I have a newish laptop running windows 10 1703 64 bit. I have plenty
of ram and I don't know off the top of my head the other specs in
regards to hardware.
My issue is that sometimes, like when I put my laptop to sleep and
leave it alone for a while, I get stupid lag when trying to open a
folder. This goes for anything to do with explorer ... documents
folder, drop box folder, or just the short cut to my external hard
drive. It will hang and hang before it either opens or I give up and
close everything with alt f4 and restart my computer.
After that things work fine until it happens again. I've not kept
close eye on when it occurs, but I do know that it resolves itself
when I restart.
I don't remember having this issue with my old computer running the
same build of windows 10 with considerably older hardware.
This computer also seems to lag a bit when switching windows and
there
is some latency
with my wireless keyboard. I use the same keyboard with my older
computer, I just move the dongle.
I've a Logitech Mk550 Wave Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Combo. The only
difference is that the set-up with logitech options on my laptop
isn't
done all the way. I can't seem to run the program and set the
hotkeys
like fn + f1, f2, f3, and etc. To open certain things like I did
with
my old computer. It was considerably harder to run logitech options
program on my old computer but I was able to soldier through it and
it
was probably with an earlier version of windows 10 when I had done
so.

I'm using NVDA 2017.2 ... and I know someone will suggest to upgrade
to the latest version, but for some reason it cuts off my screen
reader when it is reading to me. As in the sentence abruptly stops.
It
is hard for me to describe and the only way I found to get rid of it
is to install NVDA from a portable copy I have from my old computer.

Any suggestions as to how to resolve my issues would be appreciated








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Its also Miss A's birthday

Mike Thomas
 

November
6th, must have been a day the powers of the universe smiled on technology. Miss Alexa is 3 years old today. If you wish her happy birthday her inflated ego will respond with a birthday song.
Happy birthday to Miss A with many more with even greater possibilities in the future. Also, a rememberance to Carlos on his earth birthday. With fond memories of a special person,

Mike----- Original Message -----
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Carlos' Birthday Today


Happy birthday General Carlos! I will be celebrating and memorializing you
my own way. Though not so happy that my hope and longing wish of meeting
you in person are both dashed, shattered and flung to the turf, I'll have to
dry these tears, carry the torch and candle and keep on lighting the world!
It is what you did to make a difference in peoples' lives! And how's the
network up there? I'm sure they're running at maximum speed now that you
are in charge! Thanks for blessing me with your presence!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado




Re: windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless keyboard and opening folders

Gene
 

Temperature doesn't cause that behavior.  If a machine gets too warm, it may spontaneously reboot but not lag. 
 
Do you know how to see how much processor power is being used?  If you want to know, I'll let others discuss that since I don't have Windows 10.  But during times of lag, it might be useful to see how much processor power is being used.  It might also be useful to see what is using it.  But again, I'll let Windows 10 users discuss that. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Missa
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless keyboard and opening folders

My issue seems to be that it doesn't do that all of the time and I'm
having trouble pin pointing exactly what is causing the lag. I just
switched between my wireless and the laptop on board keyboard and
typed and they both can't seem to keep up with my typing or when I'm
using single letter navigation plus ctrl and the arrow keys. It is
like a half second of lag which is frustrating because this is
supposed to be a new  computer and it its being slower than my machine
that is five years old.

I think it is just being laggy the warmer my laptop gets maybe?

On 11/6/17, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@...> wrote:
> I have defender on (up to date)  and no virus was found in any of the
> previous scans that my computer had done.
> I also have the latest version of malware bytes,(3.2.2 with
> definitions up to date)  which is paid and running its own updates,
> and nothing was found then either. I'm running a scan now just because
> and so far nothing has been found.
> I don't go to many sites except amazon, gmail, bookshare, goodreads,
> bard, and google for the most part. I usually try to be cautious when
> I browse and don't go to sketchy seeming sites.
> I updated to the latest version of NVDA last night and got reminded of
> why I hadn't updated ... the stupid non reporting thing it does
> sometimes with firefox which renders single letter navigation off and
> the only way to rectify it is to restart firefox which is a pain in
> the butt.
>
> I ran through my own checklist, but I'm sure I missed something so
> your help is appreciated.
>
>
>
> On 11/6/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...> wrote:
>> also lets start from the basics.
>> did you check for a virus or malware?
>>
>> On 11/6/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> I don't know if you could have figured it out if you could see.  Don't
>>> ever
>>> accept manufacturer updates unless you know there is a problem that
>>> matters
>>> that they will solve.  I don't even allow manufacturer updates utility
>>> to
>>> run.  Don't update drivers unless you know there is a problem that
>>> matters
>>> that updated drivers will solve or that there is a new ability or
>>> feature
>>> that new drivers will provide that you want.  There may be a solution to
>>> the
>>> problem you are having that doesn't involve trying to put the old bios
>>> back
>>> on the machine, I don't know.  But this reflexive response that a lot of
>>> people have, update things like drivers, bios, and other such things
>>> just
>>> because there is an update is a bad idea.  Updating programs that want
>>> to
>>> update is at times important, such as in the case of a browser, for
>>> security
>>> vulnerabilities.  Routers and modems update for that reason, too.  But
>>> you
>>> have seen the results of just updating something when you are not aware
>>> of
>>> or don't, in fact, have any problems, just because an update is
>>> available.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that updating something won't solve the problem you have
>>> and
>>> I don't know if the other possible solution, going back to an older
>>> version
>>> of BIOS, the one you were using can be done.  If it can, you wouldn't
>>> have
>>> to update other things.  Also, I don't know what has been done since the
>>> BIOS uupdate.  The people working on the machine may have made changes
>>> that
>>> won't work properly if the BIOS is returned to the previous version.  If
>>> So,
>>> they may be able to undo what they did.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Missa
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 11:45 PM
>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
>>> wireless
>>> keyboard and opening folders
>>>
>>>
>>> My problems with my laptop started last month when lenovo put out an
>>> update for the bios and I hit okay on the update before hearing that
>>> it was updating the Bios too.
>>> My laptop kept doing the lagging with explorer and it was getting
>>> harder and harder to get any feedback from NVDA until eventually my
>>> sighted friend couldn't help me because it locked up.
>>> It was like it finally wound down or something.
>>>  I can't really say exactly what occured since I wasn't able to sit
>>> and see or ask questions bout what all he had done. He apparently did
>>> some work on it, I had given it to him to have him take it to the shop
>>> he uses, and him and his son tried to get it working also.
>>> It is hard to have someone give you feedback for something they're
>>> doing. It is so frustrating to me since I'm mostly sure that if I
>>> still had my vision I could've figured it out and not been without my
>>> computer for over a month.
>>>
>>> How am I to update my chipset? I'm not exactly sure what you are
>>> meaning with that line. When my computer was repaired he said he
>>> updated everything with the laptop. The keyboard works fine with my
>>> older computer, but that computer has the keyboard correctly installed
>>> with logitech options. Would that make any difference you think?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/5/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...> wrote:
>>>> hi. although people will be against me for saying this but i would
>>>> suggest you update the bios and chipset drivers.
>>>> i have seen a bios upgrade solving problems with sleep and hibernation
>>>> on computers.
>>>> also as you have latency problems with a wireless keyboard which is
>>>> connected via usb via dongal i would suggest you upgrade your chipset
>>>> driver.
>>>> i would also recommend you upgrade to windows 10 fall creators update
>>>> version 1709 and see if the problem is still there.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/6/17, Missa <Melissa.J.Hammitt@...> wrote:
>>>>> I had already tried that when I started to have issues with explorer
>>>>> and it didn't work. Restarting the computer seems to be the only thing
>>>>> that will.
>>>>>
>>>>> I updated NVDA and windows essentials app to the latest versions and
>>>>> so far so goodd....
>>>>> On 11/5/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or try restarting NVDA and see if that makes a difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> Gene
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 8:33 PM
>>>>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
>>>>>> wireless
>>>>>> keyboard and opening folders
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know why you have the problem coming out of sleep.  If you
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> a keyboard such as a wireless keyboard, try using the actual built-in
>>>>>> keyboard when this happens.  If you still get a lag, then it's
>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> with the keyboard.  if you don't, then there is something that isn't
>>>>>> resuming from sleep properly affecting the keyboard.  If we rule out
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> keyboard and if this only happens in Windows Explorer, then you might
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> able to work around the problem by closing Windows Explorer and
>>>>>> running
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> again.  You wouldn't have to shut down and it would be faster and
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> convenient.  I don't haveWindows 10 so I'll let others explain how to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gene
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Missa <mailto:Melissa.J.Hammitt@...>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:38 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
>>>>>> wireless
>>>>>> keyboard and opening folders
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a newish laptop running windows 10 1703 64 bit. I have plenty
>>>>>> of ram and I don't know off the top of my head the other specs in
>>>>>> regards to hardware.
>>>>>> My issue is that sometimes, like when I put my laptop to sleep and
>>>>>> leave it alone for a while, I get stupid lag when trying to open a
>>>>>> folder. This goes for anything to do with explorer ... documents
>>>>>> folder, drop box folder, or just the short cut to my external hard
>>>>>> drive. It will hang and hang before it either opens or I give up and
>>>>>> close everything with alt f4 and restart my computer.
>>>>>> After that things work fine until it happens again. I've not kept
>>>>>> close eye on when it occurs, but I do know that it resolves itself
>>>>>> when I restart.
>>>>>> I don't remember having this issue with my old computer running the
>>>>>> same build of windows 10 with considerably older hardware.
>>>>>> This computer also seems to lag a bit when switching windows and
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> is some latency
>>>>>> with my wireless keyboard. I use the same keyboard with my older
>>>>>> computer, I just move the dongle.
>>>>>> I've a Logitech Mk550 Wave Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Combo. The only
>>>>>> difference is that the set-up with logitech options on my laptop
>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>> done all the way. I can't seem to run the program and set the hotkeys
>>>>>> like fn + f1, f2, f3, and etc. To open certain things like I did with
>>>>>> my old computer. It was considerably harder to run logitech options
>>>>>> program on my old computer but I was able to soldier through it and
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> was probably with an earlier version of windows 10 when I had done
>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using NVDA 2017.2 ... and I know someone will suggest to upgrade
>>>>>> to the latest version, but for some reason it cuts off my screen
>>>>>> reader when it is reading to me. As in the sentence abruptly stops.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> is hard for me to describe and the only way I found to get rid of it
>>>>>> is to install NVDA from a portable copy I have from my old computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions as to how to resolve my issues would be appreciated
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> search for me on facebook, google+, orkut..
>>>> austinpinto.xaviers@...
>>>> follow me on twitter.
>>>> austinmpinto
>>>> contact me on skype.
>>>> austin.pinto3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> search for me on facebook, google+, orkut..
>> austinpinto.xaviers@...
>> follow me on twitter.
>> austinmpinto
>> contact me on skype.
>> austin.pinto3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



Re: windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless keyboard and opening folders

 

I was still getting the lag when I was switching the dongle from
laptop to desktop last night.
I usually close all open programs before I close the lid on my laptop
so I'm not sure that is it either.

This is really frustrating me....

On 11/6/17, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:
Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I was suggesting that it might be a problem when resuming from sleep
because, although it is rare, at rare times, a driver may not function
properly when you make a computer sleep and then resume from sleep.
I've noticed the same thing, sometimes on various laptops, with the external
keyboard. My solution was to unplug the dongle, wait for the hardware eject
sound, and then plug it back in.
The sluggishness with NVDA can usually be fixed with a restart of the
software. in addition, close any browsers that might be open before putting
the computer to sleep.




Re: surface tablet

Aman Singer
 

Hi Michael,

You write:

Pretty much any of them would be worth $150. If this one has a decent processor, then I say go with it.

With respect, I must disagree. The Surface and surface 2 I wouldn't take as a gift. Certainly, I wouldn't take it as a blind person and I probably wouldn't even take it as a gift as a sighted person except for a child who wished only to play media and, even then, I would consider the child's needs before I took it. Microsoft discontinued those and killed the operating system for excellent reasons. I certainly wouldn't pay $150 for it. The Surface 3 isn't as bad, and I would be a bit tempted at that price. The first Pro would be the same. The pro 2 and pro 3, though, would, I think, be worth at least a bit more than $150 depending on any damage done to them. I would definitely have a look at the model before buying.
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 4:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] surface tablet


What model of the Surface is this? Pretty much any of them would be worth $150. If this one has a decent processor, then I say go with it. I just recently sold one that I had been using for a little over a year. It was running Windows 10, and I also had installed Jaws and Openbook on it. It handled these with no problems. I also had Microsoft Office on the tablet and it worked flawlessly. In my opion, if you do not use or can't afford the iPad, then the Surface is the way to go. It basically has no learning curve to it if you already use a Windows based PC. Hth.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 10:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] surface tablet

Hello,

Question, does anyone have surface tablets? If so, how do you like them? What do they run? Someone I know saw one that was $900, guy was selling it for $150, the person I know bought it. They now want to offload it. Is this something I should snap up?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless keyboard and opening folders

 

My issue seems to be that it doesn't do that all of the time and I'm
having trouble pin pointing exactly what is causing the lag. I just
switched between my wireless and the laptop on board keyboard and
typed and they both can't seem to keep up with my typing or when I'm
using single letter navigation plus ctrl and the arrow keys. It is
like a half second of lag which is frustrating because this is
supposed to be a new computer and it its being slower than my machine
that is five years old.

I think it is just being laggy the warmer my laptop gets maybe?

On 11/6/17, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I have defender on (up to date) and no virus was found in any of the
previous scans that my computer had done.
I also have the latest version of malware bytes,(3.2.2 with
definitions up to date) which is paid and running its own updates,
and nothing was found then either. I'm running a scan now just because
and so far nothing has been found.
I don't go to many sites except amazon, gmail, bookshare, goodreads,
bard, and google for the most part. I usually try to be cautious when
I browse and don't go to sketchy seeming sites.
I updated to the latest version of NVDA last night and got reminded of
why I hadn't updated ... the stupid non reporting thing it does
sometimes with firefox which renders single letter navigation off and
the only way to rectify it is to restart firefox which is a pain in
the butt.

I ran through my own checklist, but I'm sure I missed something so
your help is appreciated.



On 11/6/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:
also lets start from the basics.
did you check for a virus or malware?

On 11/6/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I don't know if you could have figured it out if you could see. Don't
ever
accept manufacturer updates unless you know there is a problem that
matters
that they will solve. I don't even allow manufacturer updates utility
to
run. Don't update drivers unless you know there is a problem that
matters
that updated drivers will solve or that there is a new ability or
feature
that new drivers will provide that you want. There may be a solution to
the
problem you are having that doesn't involve trying to put the old bios
back
on the machine, I don't know. But this reflexive response that a lot of
people have, update things like drivers, bios, and other such things
just
because there is an update is a bad idea. Updating programs that want
to
update is at times important, such as in the case of a browser, for
security
vulnerabilities. Routers and modems update for that reason, too. But
you
have seen the results of just updating something when you are not aware
of
or don't, in fact, have any problems, just because an update is
available.


I'm not saying that updating something won't solve the problem you have
and
I don't know if the other possible solution, going back to an older
version
of BIOS, the one you were using can be done. If it can, you wouldn't
have
to update other things. Also, I don't know what has been done since the
BIOS uupdate. The people working on the machine may have made changes
that
won't work properly if the BIOS is returned to the previous version. If
So,
they may be able to undo what they did.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Missa
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 11:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
wireless
keyboard and opening folders


My problems with my laptop started last month when lenovo put out an
update for the bios and I hit okay on the update before hearing that
it was updating the Bios too.
My laptop kept doing the lagging with explorer and it was getting
harder and harder to get any feedback from NVDA until eventually my
sighted friend couldn't help me because it locked up.
It was like it finally wound down or something.
I can't really say exactly what occured since I wasn't able to sit
and see or ask questions bout what all he had done. He apparently did
some work on it, I had given it to him to have him take it to the shop
he uses, and him and his son tried to get it working also.
It is hard to have someone give you feedback for something they're
doing. It is so frustrating to me since I'm mostly sure that if I
still had my vision I could've figured it out and not been without my
computer for over a month.

How am I to update my chipset? I'm not exactly sure what you are
meaning with that line. When my computer was repaired he said he
updated everything with the laptop. The keyboard works fine with my
older computer, but that computer has the keyboard correctly installed
with logitech options. Would that make any difference you think?


On 11/5/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:
hi. although people will be against me for saying this but i would
suggest you update the bios and chipset drivers.
i have seen a bios upgrade solving problems with sleep and hibernation
on computers.
also as you have latency problems with a wireless keyboard which is
connected via usb via dongal i would suggest you upgrade your chipset
driver.
i would also recommend you upgrade to windows 10 fall creators update
version 1709 and see if the problem is still there.

On 11/6/17, Missa <Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I had already tried that when I started to have issues with explorer
and it didn't work. Restarting the computer seems to be the only thing
that will.

I updated NVDA and windows essentials app to the latest versions and
so far so goodd....
On 11/5/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Or try restarting NVDA and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 8:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
wireless
keyboard and opening folders



I don't know why you have the problem coming out of sleep. If you
are
using
a keyboard such as a wireless keyboard, try using the actual built-in
keyboard when this happens. If you still get a lag, then it's
nothing
to
do
with the keyboard. if you don't, then there is something that isn't
resuming from sleep properly affecting the keyboard. If we rule out
the
keyboard and if this only happens in Windows Explorer, then you might
be
able to work around the problem by closing Windows Explorer and
running
it
again. You wouldn't have to shut down and it would be faster and
more
convenient. I don't haveWindows 10 so I'll let others explain how to
do
this.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Missa <mailto:Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com>

Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:38 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
wireless
keyboard and opening folders



I have a newish laptop running windows 10 1703 64 bit. I have plenty
of ram and I don't know off the top of my head the other specs in
regards to hardware.
My issue is that sometimes, like when I put my laptop to sleep and
leave it alone for a while, I get stupid lag when trying to open a
folder. This goes for anything to do with explorer ... documents
folder, drop box folder, or just the short cut to my external hard
drive. It will hang and hang before it either opens or I give up and
close everything with alt f4 and restart my computer.
After that things work fine until it happens again. I've not kept
close eye on when it occurs, but I do know that it resolves itself
when I restart.
I don't remember having this issue with my old computer running the
same build of windows 10 with considerably older hardware.
This computer also seems to lag a bit when switching windows and
there
is some latency
with my wireless keyboard. I use the same keyboard with my older
computer, I just move the dongle.
I've a Logitech Mk550 Wave Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Combo. The only
difference is that the set-up with logitech options on my laptop
isn't
done all the way. I can't seem to run the program and set the hotkeys
like fn + f1, f2, f3, and etc. To open certain things like I did with
my old computer. It was considerably harder to run logitech options
program on my old computer but I was able to soldier through it and
it
was probably with an earlier version of windows 10 when I had done
so.

I'm using NVDA 2017.2 ... and I know someone will suggest to upgrade
to the latest version, but for some reason it cuts off my screen
reader when it is reading to me. As in the sentence abruptly stops.
It
is hard for me to describe and the only way I found to get rid of it
is to install NVDA from a portable copy I have from my old computer.

Any suggestions as to how to resolve my issues would be appreciated








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Re: first post- blocking an address in outlook

Carolyn Arnold
 

Definitely should be, will take that one and run with it,
thanks.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 2:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] first post- blocking an address in
outlook

Here's a much easier way to block an address in Outlook:

1. When the message has focus, no need to open it.
2. Press the keystrokes Alt-A
3. Next press the letter J and <enter> to add the message
to the junk list.

Be sure to empty the JUNK mail list now and then; the folder
could fill up pretty fast. Hope the foregoing is helpful!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless keyboard and opening folders

 

I have defender on (up to date) and no virus was found in any of the
previous scans that my computer had done.
I also have the latest version of malware bytes,(3.2.2 with
definitions up to date) which is paid and running its own updates,
and nothing was found then either. I'm running a scan now just because
and so far nothing has been found.
I don't go to many sites except amazon, gmail, bookshare, goodreads,
bard, and google for the most part. I usually try to be cautious when
I browse and don't go to sketchy seeming sites.
I updated to the latest version of NVDA last night and got reminded of
why I hadn't updated ... the stupid non reporting thing it does
sometimes with firefox which renders single letter navigation off and
the only way to rectify it is to restart firefox which is a pain in
the butt.

I ran through my own checklist, but I'm sure I missed something so
your help is appreciated.

On 11/6/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:
also lets start from the basics.
did you check for a virus or malware?

On 11/6/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I don't know if you could have figured it out if you could see. Don't
ever
accept manufacturer updates unless you know there is a problem that
matters
that they will solve. I don't even allow manufacturer updates utility to
run. Don't update drivers unless you know there is a problem that
matters
that updated drivers will solve or that there is a new ability or feature
that new drivers will provide that you want. There may be a solution to
the
problem you are having that doesn't involve trying to put the old bios
back
on the machine, I don't know. But this reflexive response that a lot of
people have, update things like drivers, bios, and other such things just
because there is an update is a bad idea. Updating programs that want to
update is at times important, such as in the case of a browser, for
security
vulnerabilities. Routers and modems update for that reason, too. But
you
have seen the results of just updating something when you are not aware
of
or don't, in fact, have any problems, just because an update is
available.


I'm not saying that updating something won't solve the problem you have
and
I don't know if the other possible solution, going back to an older
version
of BIOS, the one you were using can be done. If it can, you wouldn't
have
to update other things. Also, I don't know what has been done since the
BIOS uupdate. The people working on the machine may have made changes
that
won't work properly if the BIOS is returned to the previous version. If
So,
they may be able to undo what they did.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Missa
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 11:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
wireless
keyboard and opening folders


My problems with my laptop started last month when lenovo put out an
update for the bios and I hit okay on the update before hearing that
it was updating the Bios too.
My laptop kept doing the lagging with explorer and it was getting
harder and harder to get any feedback from NVDA until eventually my
sighted friend couldn't help me because it locked up.
It was like it finally wound down or something.
I can't really say exactly what occured since I wasn't able to sit
and see or ask questions bout what all he had done. He apparently did
some work on it, I had given it to him to have him take it to the shop
he uses, and him and his son tried to get it working also.
It is hard to have someone give you feedback for something they're
doing. It is so frustrating to me since I'm mostly sure that if I
still had my vision I could've figured it out and not been without my
computer for over a month.

How am I to update my chipset? I'm not exactly sure what you are
meaning with that line. When my computer was repaired he said he
updated everything with the laptop. The keyboard works fine with my
older computer, but that computer has the keyboard correctly installed
with logitech options. Would that make any difference you think?


On 11/5/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:
hi. although people will be against me for saying this but i would
suggest you update the bios and chipset drivers.
i have seen a bios upgrade solving problems with sleep and hibernation
on computers.
also as you have latency problems with a wireless keyboard which is
connected via usb via dongal i would suggest you upgrade your chipset
driver.
i would also recommend you upgrade to windows 10 fall creators update
version 1709 and see if the problem is still there.

On 11/6/17, Missa <Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I had already tried that when I started to have issues with explorer
and it didn't work. Restarting the computer seems to be the only thing
that will.

I updated NVDA and windows essentials app to the latest versions and
so far so goodd....
On 11/5/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Or try restarting NVDA and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 8:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
wireless
keyboard and opening folders



I don't know why you have the problem coming out of sleep. If you are
using
a keyboard such as a wireless keyboard, try using the actual built-in
keyboard when this happens. If you still get a lag, then it's nothing
to
do
with the keyboard. if you don't, then there is something that isn't
resuming from sleep properly affecting the keyboard. If we rule out
the
keyboard and if this only happens in Windows Explorer, then you might
be
able to work around the problem by closing Windows Explorer and
running
it
again. You wouldn't have to shut down and it would be faster and more
convenient. I don't haveWindows 10 so I'll let others explain how to
do
this.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Missa <mailto:Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com>

Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:38 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless
keyboard and opening folders



I have a newish laptop running windows 10 1703 64 bit. I have plenty
of ram and I don't know off the top of my head the other specs in
regards to hardware.
My issue is that sometimes, like when I put my laptop to sleep and
leave it alone for a while, I get stupid lag when trying to open a
folder. This goes for anything to do with explorer ... documents
folder, drop box folder, or just the short cut to my external hard
drive. It will hang and hang before it either opens or I give up and
close everything with alt f4 and restart my computer.
After that things work fine until it happens again. I've not kept
close eye on when it occurs, but I do know that it resolves itself
when I restart.
I don't remember having this issue with my old computer running the
same build of windows 10 with considerably older hardware.
This computer also seems to lag a bit when switching windows and there
is some latency
with my wireless keyboard. I use the same keyboard with my older
computer, I just move the dongle.
I've a Logitech Mk550 Wave Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Combo. The only
difference is that the set-up with logitech options on my laptop isn't
done all the way. I can't seem to run the program and set the hotkeys
like fn + f1, f2, f3, and etc. To open certain things like I did with
my old computer. It was considerably harder to run logitech options
program on my old computer but I was able to soldier through it and it
was probably with an earlier version of windows 10 when I had done so.

I'm using NVDA 2017.2 ... and I know someone will suggest to upgrade
to the latest version, but for some reason it cuts off my screen
reader when it is reading to me. As in the sentence abruptly stops. It
is hard for me to describe and the only way I found to get rid of it
is to install NVDA from a portable copy I have from my old computer.

Any suggestions as to how to resolve my issues would be appreciated








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Re: windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless keyboard and opening folders

 

I talked to the person who fixed my computer and I told him the
history of things I had done before my computer got the way it was. As
far as I know he rolled back to the version of bios my computer had
before I did the update. I plan on calling him later to see if he has
suggestions. I was hoping to get a better idea so as to fix it myself.
I know the issue with updating drivers or not updating them and have
had mixed results like you mentioned. Sometimes it works and sometimes
it doesn't. Either way I am more wary since losing my vision because
you can see what is going on with a screen when there is no feed back
from a screen reader. I'm not one of those people who are good with
computers, but I did well when I had instructions to follow and could
see what was going on.

On 11/6/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I don't know if you could have figured it out if you could see. Don't ever
accept manufacturer updates unless you know there is a problem that matters
that they will solve. I don't even allow manufacturer updates utility to
run. Don't update drivers unless you know there is a problem that matters
that updated drivers will solve or that there is a new ability or feature
that new drivers will provide that you want. There may be a solution to the
problem you are having that doesn't involve trying to put the old bios back
on the machine, I don't know. But this reflexive response that a lot of
people have, update things like drivers, bios, and other such things just
because there is an update is a bad idea. Updating programs that want to
update is at times important, such as in the case of a browser, for security
vulnerabilities. Routers and modems update for that reason, too. But you
have seen the results of just updating something when you are not aware of
or don't, in fact, have any problems, just because an update is available.


I'm not saying that updating something won't solve the problem you have and
I don't know if the other possible solution, going back to an older version
of BIOS, the one you were using can be done. If it can, you wouldn't have
to update other things. Also, I don't know what has been done since the
BIOS uupdate. The people working on the machine may have made changes that
won't work properly if the BIOS is returned to the previous version. If So,
they may be able to undo what they did.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Missa
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 11:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless
keyboard and opening folders


My problems with my laptop started last month when lenovo put out an
update for the bios and I hit okay on the update before hearing that
it was updating the Bios too.
My laptop kept doing the lagging with explorer and it was getting
harder and harder to get any feedback from NVDA until eventually my
sighted friend couldn't help me because it locked up.
It was like it finally wound down or something.
I can't really say exactly what occured since I wasn't able to sit
and see or ask questions bout what all he had done. He apparently did
some work on it, I had given it to him to have him take it to the shop
he uses, and him and his son tried to get it working also.
It is hard to have someone give you feedback for something they're
doing. It is so frustrating to me since I'm mostly sure that if I
still had my vision I could've figured it out and not been without my
computer for over a month.

How am I to update my chipset? I'm not exactly sure what you are
meaning with that line. When my computer was repaired he said he
updated everything with the laptop. The keyboard works fine with my
older computer, but that computer has the keyboard correctly installed
with logitech options. Would that make any difference you think?


On 11/5/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:
hi. although people will be against me for saying this but i would
suggest you update the bios and chipset drivers.
i have seen a bios upgrade solving problems with sleep and hibernation
on computers.
also as you have latency problems with a wireless keyboard which is
connected via usb via dongal i would suggest you upgrade your chipset
driver.
i would also recommend you upgrade to windows 10 fall creators update
version 1709 and see if the problem is still there.

On 11/6/17, Missa <Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I had already tried that when I started to have issues with explorer
and it didn't work. Restarting the computer seems to be the only thing
that will.

I updated NVDA and windows essentials app to the latest versions and
so far so goodd....
On 11/5/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Or try restarting NVDA and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 8:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using
wireless
keyboard and opening folders



I don't know why you have the problem coming out of sleep. If you are
using
a keyboard such as a wireless keyboard, try using the actual built-in
keyboard when this happens. If you still get a lag, then it's nothing
to
do
with the keyboard. if you don't, then there is something that isn't
resuming from sleep properly affecting the keyboard. If we rule out
the
keyboard and if this only happens in Windows Explorer, then you might
be
able to work around the problem by closing Windows Explorer and running
it
again. You wouldn't have to shut down and it would be faster and more
convenient. I don't haveWindows 10 so I'll let others explain how to
do
this.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Missa <mailto:Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com>

Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:38 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: [TechTalk] windows 10, newish laptop, lag when using wireless
keyboard and opening folders



I have a newish laptop running windows 10 1703 64 bit. I have plenty
of ram and I don't know off the top of my head the other specs in
regards to hardware.
My issue is that sometimes, like when I put my laptop to sleep and
leave it alone for a while, I get stupid lag when trying to open a
folder. This goes for anything to do with explorer ... documents
folder, drop box folder, or just the short cut to my external hard
drive. It will hang and hang before it either opens or I give up and
close everything with alt f4 and restart my computer.
After that things work fine until it happens again. I've not kept
close eye on when it occurs, but I do know that it resolves itself
when I restart.
I don't remember having this issue with my old computer running the
same build of windows 10 with considerably older hardware.
This computer also seems to lag a bit when switching windows and there
is some latency
with my wireless keyboard. I use the same keyboard with my older
computer, I just move the dongle.
I've a Logitech Mk550 Wave Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Combo. The only
difference is that the set-up with logitech options on my laptop isn't
done all the way. I can't seem to run the program and set the hotkeys
like fn + f1, f2, f3, and etc. To open certain things like I did with
my old computer. It was considerably harder to run logitech options
program on my old computer but I was able to soldier through it and it
was probably with an earlier version of windows 10 when I had done so.

I'm using NVDA 2017.2 ... and I know someone will suggest to upgrade
to the latest version, but for some reason it cuts off my screen
reader when it is reading to me. As in the sentence abruptly stops. It
is hard for me to describe and the only way I found to get rid of it
is to install NVDA from a portable copy I have from my old computer.

Any suggestions as to how to resolve my issues would be appreciated








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Re: surface tablet

Michael Boyd <mike122061@...>
 

What model of the Surface is this? Pretty much any of them would be worth $150. If this one has a decent processor, then I say go with it. I just recently sold one that I had been using for a little over a year. It was running Windows 10, and I also had installed Jaws and Openbook on it. It handled these with no problems. I also had Microsoft Office on the tablet and it worked flawlessly. In my opion, if you do not use or can't afford the iPad, then the Surface is the way to go. It basically has no learning curve to it if you already use a Windows based PC. Hth.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 10:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] surface tablet

Hello,

Question, does anyone have surface tablets? If so, how do you like them? What do they run? Someone I know saw one that was $900, guy was selling it for $150, the person I know bought it. They now want to offload it. Is this something I should snap up?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Carlos' Birthday Today

Joe Orozco
 

Oh no! I took a break from the list and must have missed notice of his
passing. I’m so incredibly sad to hear this news. He was a good list
moderator and agree with others that he was very intelligent. I am so
sorry and send my condolences to his friends and family who knew him
better and are probably feeling his passing a lot more keenly. May he
rest in peace.

Sincerely,

Joe

On 11/6/17, Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net> wrote:
Hi Stacy,

Carlos is the originator of this list, & was 1 of the most knowledgeable
computer people the blind community has ever witnessed! He was totally
blind himself, but that didn't stop him from helping both blind & sighted
people for many, many years. Anyways he passed away October 16, of this
year, & would have been 46 today.
Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: stacy west
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Carlos' Birthday Today


may I ask who carlos is?

sorry, I don't want to intrude, I am just interested in who we are
talking about
On 06/11/2017 19:35, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Happy birthday General Carlos! I will be celebrating and memorializing
you
my own way. Though not so happy that my hope and longing wish of meeting
you in person are both dashed, shattered and flung to the turf, I'll have

to
dry these tears, carry the torch and candle and keep on lighting the
world!
It is what you did to make a difference in peoples' lives! And how's the
network up there? I'm sure they're running at maximum speed now that you
are in charge! Thanks for blessing me with your presence!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado







Re: Carlos' Birthday Today

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Stacy,
 
Carlos is the originator of this list, & was 1 of the most knowledgeable computer people the blind community has ever witnessed!  He was totally blind himself, but that didn't stop him from helping both blind & sighted people for many, many years.  Anyways he passed away October 16, of this year, & would have been 46 today.
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: stacy west
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Carlos' Birthday Today

may I ask who carlos is?

sorry, I don't want to intrude, I am just interested in who we are
talking about
On 06/11/2017 19:35, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
> Happy birthday General Carlos!  I will be celebrating and memorializing you
> my own way.  Though not so happy that my hope and longing wish of meeting
> you in person are both dashed, shattered and flung to the turf, I'll have to
> dry these tears, carry the torch and candle and keep on lighting the world!
> It is what you did to make a difference in peoples' lives!  And how's the
> network up there?  I'm sure they're running at maximum speed now that you
> are in charge!  Thanks for blessing me with your presence!
>
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado
>
>
>
>
>




Re: first post- blocking an address in outlook

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Here's a much easier way to block an address in Outlook:

1. When the message has focus, no need to open it.
2. Press the keystrokes Alt-A
3. Next press the letter J and <enter> to add the message to the junk list.

Be sure to empty the JUNK mail list now and then; the folder could fill up
pretty fast. Hope the foregoing is helpful!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Carlos' Birthday Today

stacy west <stacywest406@...>
 

may I ask who carlos is?

sorry, I don't want to intrude, I am just interested in who we are talking about

On 06/11/2017 19:35, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Happy birthday General Carlos! I will be celebrating and memorializing you
my own way. Though not so happy that my hope and longing wish of meeting
you in person are both dashed, shattered and flung to the turf, I'll have to
dry these tears, carry the torch and candle and keep on lighting the world!
It is what you did to make a difference in peoples' lives! And how's the
network up there? I'm sure they're running at maximum speed now that you
are in charge! Thanks for blessing me with your presence!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado




Re: Carlos' Birthday Today

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Happy birthday General Carlos! I will be celebrating and memorializing you
my own way. Though not so happy that my hope and longing wish of meeting
you in person are both dashed, shattered and flung to the turf, I'll have to
dry these tears, carry the torch and candle and keep on lighting the world!
It is what you did to make a difference in peoples' lives! And how's the
network up there? I'm sure they're running at maximum speed now that you
are in charge! Thanks for blessing me with your presence!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: surface tablet

Aman Singer
 

Hello,

Each surface series (surface pro 3, for example,) comes in multiple versions. There is a surface pro 3 running a core I3 processor, one running a core I5, one running a core I7, but all of these are called surface pro 3. There is, or at least will be, a surface pro with a core I3 with LTE, I5 with LTE, and so on. That is, assuming the unit we're talking about is a Surface Pro or a Surface 3, it can be one of at least ten units going by those names. Therefore, it's really impossible to say what it's running or whether it's worth the price being asked for it. My suggestion would be to go to system and determine which unit it is. If there is a keyboard attached, simply hit windows+pause and see what comes up. This will let you know the three most important things at least, the processor, amount of RAM, and Windows version.
HTH,
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] surface tablet

Hello,

Thanks that's quite good to know. I'm going to assume a surface pro with a number or just a surface 3. What are the specs on those two?
Would it be worth the asking price which I just heard was $150. IT also has a password lock on it, so I have to clear that.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 11/6/17, Aman Singer <aman.singer@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

There are many types of surface tablet. The surface and surface 2
which were discontinued some years ago, run Windows RT. Windows RT is
inaccessible to the blind for all intents and purposes, it does have
Narrator but the version of Narrator on it is even poorer than the one in Windows 10.
Further, it is not possible to install any screen reader on the
surface or surface 2.
If the tablet is called the surface pro, with any number following
the pro, or the surface 3, it runs ordinary windows and an ordinary
operating system, these days, usually windows 10. Obviously, it is
perfectly accessible. I have used and like the surface pro 3. I have
also tried the surface 3, but found it slow as well as prone to crash
when Jaws is run on it. All that being said, if the product is a
surface pro or surface 3 model, any issues you have aren't going to be
primarily about accessibility, but more the problems/issues any
computer user might have. Some people don't like tablets, for example,
some might want more processing power/more RAM, others might not like
Windows 10. Those things aren't accessibility issues, at least not primarily, they're computer-user issues.
I hope that's of some use.
Aman


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 11:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] surface tablet

Hello,

Question, does anyone have surface tablets? If so, how do you like them?
What do they run? Someone I know saw one that was $900, guy was
selling it for $150, the person I know bought it. They now want to
offload it. Is this something I should snap up?

Thanks.
Dave.








Re: accessible treadmill

Cristóbal
 

A follow up to this thread. I came across this AppleVis forum posting a few weeks ago when looking into this very topic. If you've already got an iOS device or can spring for even a legacy device, then there may be some devices and set ups to consider in the suggestions.
https://www.applevis.com/forum/hardware-accessories/are-there-any-treadmills-accessible-companion-ios-apps
If anyone's already played around with some heart rate monitors or other sensors, it would be good to know their experiences to perhaps save some time and expense from having to dive down the rabbit hole of all these accessories.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 10:06 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] accessible treadmill

This is perfectly reasonable. I even looked into a manual treadmill, but again, for the reasons noted below, it just wasn't going to work for me.
In general, if you want a quality machine, you're probably looking at something that's at least $600.00.
Majority of treadmills can be labeled to one degree or another, but I’m sure many of us also want access to the different programs that a machine offers. You can most likely manually increase speed or incline/decline, but sometimes, you just want to pick a program and go. Not to mention if you're tracking your workout. Inputting your weight and height and be able to review distance, heart rate, calories burned, etc. I guess some of these limitations can be addressed with a smartphone or watch or fitbit, but still, having some level of access to the treadmill itself is probably the holy grail for accessible treadmills.
I believe Apple said that there would be more and more devices compatible with their new Apple Watch, but then you're talking about $400.00 for the watch and God knows what you'd have to spend for a workout machine that's compatible which is likely going to cost a pretty penny too.
Again, probably the easiest solution is to find a treadmill that offers some sort of accompanying app if you're already a smart device owner. Similar to the concept of the instant pot. The instant pot itself isn't' accessible per say, but with the app, (in my case iOS), it's 100% accessible out of the box.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 8:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] accessible treadmill


Well, fortunately, I'm not that tall and weigh only 135 pounds, so a manual treadmill works well for me. Besides, I lack the space in my apartment for a large, bulky motorized treadmill. Incredible as it sounds, here in Manhattan, there are no longer any stores that sell consumer-grade exercise equipment. There are a few stores that sell commercial-grade equipment designed mainly for gyms and health clubs, but they are very expensive.
Apparently, people who live in apartment buildings tend to belong to gyms and health clubs which are often on-site and are thus less likely to buy their own equipment, which is probably why there are no stores that sell it.
Of course, there is no shortage of online sites that sell consumer-grade equipment, including Amazon, but you have to buy these products sight unseen and hope for the best. Besides my manual treadmill, I also have an upright exercise bike and a mini elliptical trainer in my den, all of which I purchased from Amazon after doing extensive research. Because I work out religiously every day,joining a health club is not really a practical option. Besides, I've heard of cases where blind people who have joined health clubs have been restricted from using some of the equipment because of safety concerns. And health clubs frequently go out of business without notice , leaving their members in the lurch.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 10:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] accessible treadmill

Not to mention that if you're tall or even on the tallish/bigger size, belt width and length are also factors to consider. The walking treadmills are usually around 16 inches in width with a short belt. Somewhere around 50 inches. Being 6-2 tall, I would not feel comfortable with such a narrow belt. Much less if I was inspired to jog/run. Length too for someone my height would present problems. I weigh around 216 lbs, but am usually between 210 and 221 depending on the time of year (I fully expect to hit the low 220s during this holiday season). Wwalking treadmills can feel pretty flimsy and unstable when you start to get above 200 lbs or so.
Probably the the closest thing we'll ever find to something that is even reasonably accessible is a treadmill that has some sort of app that is Voiceover or TalkBack accessible. Who knows, maybe even one day Alexa will be integrated into exersize machines, but that day isnt' today.
I know some treadmills work with that iFit service and that it can be pared with an iPhone or tablet, but I havent' heard many blind folks talk about it and whether it's accessible or not. It would be interesting to know if it's at all workable with iOS. iFit is a subscription service, but if it's doable, I'd be interested.
Wired a few weeks back had an article breaking down treadmill options:
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-treadmill/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS%20Feed
It's easy enough to slap some Braille labels on the controls, but like a lot of folks, I too would like something that offers more access to programs on these machines.




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Spitz
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 4:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] accessible treadmill

Gerald:

Thanks for the info. In may case, unfortunately, a non-motorized or less expensive treadmill will not work as I am over 250 lbs. and most of the less expensive machines have a max weight of 225. The manual that I have not does not hold my weight well, the belt keeps sticking despite liberal use of silicone liquid lube. The motorized machine, at least a quality one, will hold my weight and won't have the belt issues.

Peter

On 11/5/17, Melissa <angel.melissa0107@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi list. Does any one know of an accessible treadmill or even one that
would be easy to put braille labels on? Thanks.



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