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Re: two more comments

Gene
 

I appreciate your apology but you don't need to offer one. 
 
It looks to me as though the pending feature was the last important feature I didn't know about.  I've been working with and looking at the interface recently and I think I've figured out everything else I'm likely to need.  It's not a difficult interface, but for people not used to expanding and shrinking menus and who don't use their screen--reader's find command, it may seem more difficult than it is.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two more comments

Jean, I don't currently have a tutorial recorded or anything. But I would not mind being involved in helping put one together. Or walking some people through the steps of how to navigate the website. This is what I like doing. This is also why I'm apart of the beta group. I'm sorry that I haven't been as helpful to you as I could've been. But yes, whenever you've visit the site, there is a pending area. Here, you can manage members that might be pending, or messages. And I find it very convenient and very helpful whenever I accidentally deleted an email to a message that I might need to approve.
Joseph Hudson

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>
> I learned about a feature I hadn't looked into when I saw my messages unintentionally reach the list after I didn't approve them.  there is a pending feature that is valuable to know about.  It will help me not have messages unintentionally reach the list and it will also allow me to approve messages if I accidentally delete one I intended to approve.  I had other ways of approving those messages but this way is much more convenient.
>
> It seems to me that someone should do a short tutorial on the Groups.io interface for new blind group owners.  Maybe I'll do one.
>
> Gene
>





Re: Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

Michael Boyd <mike122061@...>
 

You could create the list and then have it advertised in the Flying Blind Top Tech Tidbits for Thursday and the Blind Bargains newsletters. Create a page or just post it publicly to your Facebook account so that everyone on Facebook could see it. There are ways to get the word out.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.


As I discovered, the problem with creating a mailing list for blind hearing aid wearers is that there simply are not enough members of this and other blindness-related lists who wear hearing aids for such a list to be viable.
If, for instance,this list has, say, 500 members, but only 50 of them wear hearing aids, and only 20 of them express interest in a blind hearing aid wearers list, there simply will not be enough interest to sustain the list on an ongoing basis. There may be an initial flurry of activity after the list is first created, but over time, interest will invariably wane until activity becomes so sporadic as to be practically non-existent. As an example, the owner of the other major blindness-related tech list created a separate list to discuss shopping issues as they affect blind consumers.
Well, there was a lot of excitement and activity on this Shopping Center list after it was first created, but over time, interest dwindled, and now, this list seems to exist only for its few remaining members to shout out on holidays rather than to discuss shopping issues.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Boyd
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 6:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.


This is understood, but it still remains that there seems to be no mailing list for blind users of hearing aids, but probably are some for people who are deaf-blind and/or people with Usher's Syndrome. Many of these people may not be totally deaf, therefore being blind and needing a hearing aid. In either event, these lists may meet the person in questions needs.

Michael


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 3:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

A lot of us would not be considered deaf-blind, just blind people with some hearing loss who need hearing aids.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 3:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.





Hi Kate,



I would look for a list for the deaf-blind. There is surely one available.
If you cannot find a list and you have specific questions, you could contact
Affiliated Blind of Louisiana. They are the only training center for the
deaf-blind in the Southern US, they also have many resources available. If
you do not live in this area, they can direct you to the closest resource in
your area. Deaf-blind resources are not as plentiful as they for persons who
are just blind or deaf. The contact number for ABL is 800-319-4444.



Michael







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.



Hi all,

Does anyone know of a list for blind users of hearing aids?
So many times people end up with hearing aids that don't seem to work
correctly or audiologist that don't quite understand the needs of a blind
person, or just have a few questions about their particular brand of aid.
It would be great if there were such a forum for this discussion. If there
isn't, it would be nice if one could be created. But why reinvent the wheel
if it is already in existence. If anyone knows of such a list please let me
know as there seems to be a need for one. thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmquist@gmail.com>


Re: two more comments

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Jean, I don't currently have a tutorial recorded or anything. But I would not mind being involved in helping put one together. Or walking some people through the steps of how to navigate the website. This is what I like doing. This is also why I'm apart of the beta group. I'm sorry that I haven't been as helpful to you as I could've been. But yes, whenever you've visit the site, there is a pending area. Here, you can manage members that might be pending, or messages. And I find it very convenient and very helpful whenever I accidentally deleted an email to a message that I might need to approve.
Joseph Hudson

Email
jhud7789@gmail.com
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@yahoo.com

On Nov 27, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

I learned about a feature I hadn't looked into when I saw my messages unintentionally reach the list after I didn't approve them. there is a pending feature that is valuable to know about. It will help me not have messages unintentionally reach the list and it will also allow me to approve messages if I accidentally delete one I intended to approve. I had other ways of approving those messages but this way is much more convenient.

It seems to me that someone should do a short tutorial on the Groups.io interface for new blind group owners. Maybe I'll do one.

Gene


Re: Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

Flor Lynch
 

That's good on the HKNC.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.


Helen Keller National Center uses the term "deaf-blind" to refer to any
client who is both hearing impaired and visually impaired. The degree of
hearing and vision loss does not matter to them; this term still applies.
The NFB loosely throws around the term "blind" to refer to anyone with less
than normal vision, although the implication with the general public is that
anyone who is classified as "blind" cannot see at all. The NFB makes no
distinction between low vision, partial sight, legal blindness and total
blindness. As far as they're concerned, if you have less than normal
vision, you are considered "blind". Likewise, HKNC uses the term "deaf"
to refer to anyone with hearing loss ranging from moderate to profound. In
my case, I am considered "deaf" by HKNC, even though my hearing loss is
moderate, and I have perfectly normal speech. Indeed, many doctors I have
consulted refuse to believe that I am "deaf" because my speech is so
"normal".

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

That doesn't make sense? Who told you you were deafblind if you could hear
and understand people? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Hooley
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

I remember being told that I was deafblind, and I was wearing hearing aids
and able to understand speech, so I would say you have it too.

Hth,

On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Thom Spittle <thom3of5@gmail.com> wrote:

At what point do people cross over from blindness with hearing loss and deaf
blind?
I have hearing loss in the upper register of one ear. I have a family
history of profound hearing loss, along with RP.
I was thinking of applying for the I can Connect project, to get a jump
start on any skills I would need as a deaf blind person.
I just don't know if I am deag blind, or blind with hearing loss.
Any comments are appreciated.

Thom

Thomas Spittle



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

Exactly my point. I think that what many of us here need is a list focused
on blind people who have hearing issues with the focus being on blind with
hearing rather than deaf-blind.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

There's also the complication of people who were born deaf, learned to
communicate in Sign, and lost their sight while deaf, rather than those of
us born blind, who lost hearing some time afterward, and use speech as our
primary mode of communication. You can get deaf-blind people from both of
those sets, but because of the innate differences due to culture, etc, they
have very little in common with each other.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

A lot of us would not be considered deaf-blind, just blind people with some
hearing loss who need hearing aids.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 3:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.





Hi Kate,



I would look for a list for the deaf-blind. There is surely one available.
If you cannot find a list and you have specific questions, you could contact
Affiliated Blind of Louisiana. They are the only training center for the
deaf-blind in the Southern US, they also have many resources available. If
you do not live in this area, they can direct you to the closest resource in
your area. Deaf-blind resources are not as plentiful as they for persons who
are just blind or deaf. The contact number for ABL is 800-319-4444.



Michael







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.



Hi all,

Does anyone know of a list for blind users of hearing aids?
So many times people end up with hearing aids that don't seem to work
correctly or audiologist that don't quite understand the needs of a blind
person, or just have a few questions about their particular brand of aid.
It would be great if there were such a forum for this discussion. If there
isn't, it would be nice if one could be created. But why reinvent the wheel
if it is already in existence. If anyone knows of such a list please let me
know as there seems to be a need for one. thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmquist@gmail.com>




















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Re: two more comments

Gene
 

I've seen enough requests for a tutorial that I'll do one. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:57 PM
Subject: two more comments

I learned about a feature I hadn't looked into when I saw my messages unintentionally reach the list after I didn't approve them.  there is a pending feature that is valuable to know about.  It will help me not have messages unintentionally reach the list and it will also allow me to approve messages if I accidentally delete one I intended to approve.  I had other ways of approving those messages but this way is much more convenient. 
 
It seems to me that someone should do a short tutorial on the Groups.io interface for new blind group owners.  Maybe I'll do one. 
 
Gene


Re: Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

Flor Lynch
 

Thom,
When you get a hearing test from an audiologist, an 'audiogram' is produced. The audiologist will then assess how severe your hearing loss is. If your loss is still mild, then you wouldn't qualify as being deaf-blind. If your loss is severe, or profound, or between those two, you may qualify as deaf-blind.

Audiologist generally don't focus on your sight loss as having a bearing on your hearing loss.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thom Spittle
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

At what point do people cross over from blindness with hearing loss and deaf
blind?
I have hearing loss in the upper register of one ear. I have a family
history of profound hearing loss, along with RP.
I was thinking of applying for the I can Connect project, to get a jump
start on any skills I would need as a deaf blind person.
I just don't know if I am deag blind, or blind with hearing loss.
Any comments are appreciated.

Thom

Thomas Spittle



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

Exactly my point. I think that what many of us here need is a list focused
on blind people who have hearing issues with the focus being on blind with
hearing rather than deaf-blind.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

There's also the complication of people who were born deaf, learned to
communicate in Sign, and lost their sight while deaf, rather than those of
us born blind, who lost hearing some time afterward, and use speech as our
primary mode of communication. You can get deaf-blind people from both of
those sets, but because of the innate differences due to culture, etc, they
have very little in common with each other.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

A lot of us would not be considered deaf-blind, just blind people with some
hearing loss who need hearing aids.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 3:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.





Hi Kate,



I would look for a list for the deaf-blind. There is surely one available.
If you cannot find a list and you have specific questions, you could contact
Affiliated Blind of Louisiana. They are the only training center for the
deaf-blind in the Southern US, they also have many resources available. If
you do not live in this area, they can direct you to the closest resource in
your area. Deaf-blind resources are not as plentiful as they for persons who
are just blind or deaf. The contact number for ABL is 800-319-4444.



Michael







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.



Hi all,

Does anyone know of a list for blind users of hearing aids?
So many times people end up with hearing aids that don't seem to work
correctly or audiologist that don't quite understand the needs of a blind
person, or just have a few questions about their particular brand of aid.
It would be great if there were such a forum for this discussion. If there
isn't, it would be nice if one could be created. But why reinvent the wheel
if it is already in existence. If anyone knows of such a list please let me
know as there seems to be a need for one. thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmquist@gmail.com>


Re: two more comments

Lynn White
 

Oh Gene, do it please. 


On 11/27/2017 1:57 PM, Gene wrote:
I learned about a feature I hadn't looked into when I saw my messages unintentionally reach the list after I didn't approve them.  there is a pending feature that is valuable to know about.  It will help me not have messages unintentionally reach the list and it will also allow me to approve messages if I accidentally delete one I intended to approve.  I had other ways of approving those messages but this way is much more convenient. 
 
It seems to me that someone should do a short tutorial on the Groups.io interface for new blind group owners.  Maybe I'll do one. 
 
Gene


Re: problem installing JAWS 2018

Gene
 

I don't think trying to install the intercept would help.  The intercept is supposed to be installed during JAWS installation.  I would contact technical support.  I don't remember the name of the company now.  But it appears that something is evidently not allowing the intercept to install during installation and you then get a message that it isn't installed. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Vicki
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] problem installing JAWS 2018

I didn't find the video intercept anywhere as a download. I did a search for the term and it didn't come up with anything either.
 
Vicki
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] problem installing JAWS 2018

 

You can download the Video Intercept right on the Jaws downloads page on the Freedom Scientific website.

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] problem installing JAWS 2018

 

I installed JAWS 2018 on my desktop but I cannot install it on my laptop. I get an error message that the video intercept isn't installed. How can I install it?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 


Re: problem installing JAWS 2018

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

There is a known problem it is susposed to be resolved in the December update that is what I saw on another list.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] problem installing JAWS 2018

 

I am using Windows 7 on both computers and my JAWS 14 works fine on this laptop, just not the 2018.

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 7:15 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] problem installing JAWS 2018

 

Dear friend, I’m very sorry to let you know that you didn’t mention your operating system of  your laptop.

The matter of fact is that it is a driver.

freedomscientific video intercept  called in windows XP that driver was renamed mirror display driver into windows 7 and at the end that driver was again renamed as accessibility display driver into windows 10.

As long as you do not mention your operating system, how can an appropriate solution could be given to you!

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At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
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From: Vicki
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] problem installing JAWS 2018

 

I installed JAWS 2018 on my desktop but I cannot install it on my laptop. I get an error message that the video intercept isn't installed. How can I install it?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

 


Re: Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

Flor Lynch
 

At the same time, do not lose sight (pun intended) of the fact that there are people born blind (or who go blind early on) who do develop severe hearing loss, but who still hear enough every day. There are even blind adults who went from hearing to deaf, sometimes over several years, or even over just a few months in a few cases that that I know of - who have been given cochlear implants for their troubles. So I don't know if it's fair to make sweeping generalisations about a type in a particular cohort. The scenario is complicated, because of the dual sensory loss, which can be compounded by other factors. Heck, there are differences between being totally blind and partially sighted. Yet we are 'lumped together' as one community, because of the vision loss. And among the blind, there are the early blind and the late blind... Sometimes we just have to accept our differences, and that we who are different are also different from each other. Getting the broader society to understand that is quite a tall thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

Exactly my point. I think that what many of us here need is
a list focused on blind people who have hearing issues with
the focus being on blind with hearing rather than
deaf-blind.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind
users of hearing aids.

There's also the complication of people who were born deaf,
learned to communicate in Sign, and lost their sight while
deaf, rather than those of us born blind, who lost hearing
some time afterward, and use speech as our primary mode of
communication. You can get deaf-blind people from both of
those sets, but because of the innate differences due to
culture, etc, they have very little in common with each
other.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind
users of hearing aids.

A lot of us would not be considered deaf-blind, just blind
people with some hearing loss who need hearing aids.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 3:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind
users of hearing aids.





Hi Kate,



I would look for a list for the deaf-blind. There is surely
one available. If you cannot find a list and you have
specific questions, you could contact Affiliated Blind of
Louisiana. They are the only training center for the
deaf-blind in the Southern US, they also have many resources
available. If you do not live in this area, they can direct
you to the closest resource in your area. Deaf-blind
resources are not as plentiful as they for persons who are
just blind or deaf. The contact number for ABL is
800-319-4444.



Michael







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind
users of hearing aids.



Hi all,

Does anyone know of a list for blind users of hearing aids?
So many times people end up with hearing aids that don't
seem to work correctly or audiologist that don't quite
understand the needs of a blind person, or just have a few
questions about their particular brand of aid. It would be
great if there were such a forum for this discussion. If
there isn't, it would be nice if one could be created. But
why reinvent the wheel if it is already in existence. If
anyone knows of such a list please let me know as there
seems to be a need for one. thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmquist@gmail.com>


Re: problem installing JAWS 2018

Vicki W
 

I didn't find the video intercept anywhere as a download. I did a search for the term and it didn't come up with anything either.
 
Vicki
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] problem installing JAWS 2018

 

You can download the Video Intercept right on the Jaws downloads page on the Freedom Scientific website.

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] problem installing JAWS 2018

 

I installed JAWS 2018 on my desktop but I cannot install it on my laptop. I get an error message that the video intercept isn't installed. How can I install it?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 


Re: two more comments

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I think that would be helpful.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] two more comments

 

I learned about a feature I hadn't looked into when I saw my messages unintentionally reach the list after I didn't approve them.  there is a pending feature that is valuable to know about.  It will help me not have messages unintentionally reach the list and it will also allow me to approve messages if I accidentally delete one I intended to approve.  I had other ways of approving those messages but this way is much more convenient. 

 

It seems to me that someone should do a short tutorial on the Groups.io interface for new blind group owners.  Maybe I'll do one. 

 

Gene


Re: Save As Dialogues New & Old Formats, Solved

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


What I like most is that it makes the Start menu look like XP's Start menu.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Save As Dialogues New & Old Formats, Solved

What do you like about it?  Are there any parts that aren’t accessible with jaws?

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Save As Dialogues New & Old Formats, Solved

 

Yes, I do.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis L

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:24 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Save As Dialogues New & Old Formats, Solved

 

Mike do you use classic shell in windows7?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 9:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Save As Dialogues New & Old Formats, Solved

 

Hi Eleni,

 

Yes, you can choose settings.  You can choose between Windows Classic XP, & Vista depending on which fascit of the program you're wanting to work with.  You can learn about the program from the below:

 

 

You make the setting changes / choices from Start menu / All programs / Classic Shell.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:57 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Save As Dialogues New & Old Formats, Solved

 

Is Classic Shell fully accessible?  I thought that it was impossible
to change settings in it.

On 25/11/2017, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> A week or 2 ago I asked how to get my old save as dialogue back because
> somehow it had changed to the new dialogue, & I knew it wasn't from an
> update.  Well, I found today how it happened.  The culprit was me & a
> program called Classic Shell!  LOL
>
> Anyways to cut a long story short, I've been using Classic Shell ever since
>
> upgrading to Windows 7 from XP, & never knew just what all the program would
>
> change until I disabled it on this computer.  Today I reenabled Classic
> Shell, & woe & behold the old save as dialogue was back!
>
> My apologies to anyone I ruffled the feathers of in trying to find out how I
>
> could get the old save as dialogue back.  Classic Shell is the answer in the
>
> Explorer settings of the program.
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>


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Re: is there a standalone kindle reader that blind folks can use?

Blaster
 

If your looking for a fire tablet that's pre-configured for blind
users and comes with support, look here:

http://www.talkingmp3players.com/

HTH,
Blaster

On 11/27/17, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@ca.rr.com> wrote:
Hi Mary,

I am a Kurzweil user, and remember your name from the former group. This
kindle thing is for a dr. friend of mine who has recently become blind. I am
teaching him how to use jaws with his computer, but I think he would be
really interested in the fire tablet. What more do you know about it? You
can write me off list at jazzpiano@ca.rr. Com. Jim



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] is there a standalone kindle reader that blind folks
can use?



Hi Jim,
Yes, you can certainly use the Kindle on a PC with either Jaws or NVDA. The
support has gotten much better in the last couple of months. And yes, you
can also use some of the Kindle e-reader‘s. Those are the devices that are
made just for reading books. Otherwise, the cheapest alternative is to
purchase a Kindle fire tablet. That lets you re-kindle books and also do
other things. And right now, those tablets are on a good deal of Amazon. The
cheapest one is the fire seven and I think it’s $30 right now. The HD eight
is $50, and the HD 10 is $100 for the les expensive device. Aside from size,
the major difference that would concern us would be the fact that both
theeight and the 10 have two speakers, and they sound better than the seven.
Also the 10 has a newer processor and more storage space, although all of
them come with a card slot. I don’t have personal experience using the E
readers, but I know that some of them can be used.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@ca.rr.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I don’t have a kindle reader now, but I am thinking about getting one. Is
there a standalone kindle reader that I can get that I wouldn’t have to use
my computer with it? If not that, how does one use the kindle with a P?C?
Jim




Re: two more comments

andy.tidwell
 

Hello Gene, I wish you would because it would be helpful.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] two more comments
 
I learned about a feature I hadn't looked into when I saw my messages unintentionally reach the list after I didn't approve them.  there is a pending feature that is valuable to know about.  It will help me not have messages unintentionally reach the list and it will also allow me to approve messages if I accidentally delete one I intended to approve.  I had other ways of approving those messages but this way is much more convenient. 
 
It seems to me that someone should do a short tutorial on the Groups.io interface for new blind group owners.  Maybe I'll do one. 
 
Gene
Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


Re: Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

Gerald Levy
 

Helen Keller National Center uses the term "deaf-blind" to refer to any client who is both hearing impaired and visually impaired. The degree of hearing and vision loss does not matter to them; this term still applies. The NFB loosely throws around the term "blind" to refer to anyone with less than normal vision, although the implication with the general public is that anyone who is classified as "blind" cannot see at all. The NFB makes no distinction between low vision, partial sight, legal blindness and total blindness. As far as they're concerned, if you have less than normal vision, you are considered "blind". Likewise, HKNC uses the term "deaf" to refer to anyone with hearing loss ranging from moderate to profound. In my case, I am considered "deaf" by HKNC, even though my hearing loss is moderate, and I have perfectly normal speech. Indeed, many doctors I have consulted refuse to believe that I am "deaf" because my speech is so "normal".

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

That doesn't make sense? Who told you you were deafblind if you could hear
and understand people? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Hooley
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

I remember being told that I was deafblind, and I was wearing hearing aids
and able to understand speech, so I would say you have it too.

Hth,

On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Thom Spittle <thom3of5@gmail.com> wrote:

At what point do people cross over from blindness with hearing loss and deaf
blind?
I have hearing loss in the upper register of one ear. I have a family
history of profound hearing loss, along with RP.
I was thinking of applying for the I can Connect project, to get a jump
start on any skills I would need as a deaf blind person.
I just don't know if I am deag blind, or blind with hearing loss.
Any comments are appreciated.

Thom

Thomas Spittle



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

Exactly my point. I think that what many of us here need is a list focused
on blind people who have hearing issues with the focus being on blind with
hearing rather than deaf-blind.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

There's also the complication of people who were born deaf, learned to
communicate in Sign, and lost their sight while deaf, rather than those of
us born blind, who lost hearing some time afterward, and use speech as our
primary mode of communication. You can get deaf-blind people from both of
those sets, but because of the innate differences due to culture, etc, they
have very little in common with each other.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

A lot of us would not be considered deaf-blind, just blind people with some
hearing loss who need hearing aids.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 3:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.





Hi Kate,



I would look for a list for the deaf-blind. There is surely one available.
If you cannot find a list and you have specific questions, you could contact
Affiliated Blind of Louisiana. They are the only training center for the
deaf-blind in the Southern US, they also have many resources available. If
you do not live in this area, they can direct you to the closest resource in
your area. Deaf-blind resources are not as plentiful as they for persons who
are just blind or deaf. The contact number for ABL is 800-319-4444.



Michael







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.



Hi all,

Does anyone know of a list for blind users of hearing aids?
So many times people end up with hearing aids that don't seem to work
correctly or audiologist that don't quite understand the needs of a blind
person, or just have a few questions about their particular brand of aid.
It would be great if there were such a forum for this discussion. If there
isn't, it would be nice if one could be created. But why reinvent the wheel
if it is already in existence. If anyone knows of such a list please let me
know as there seems to be a need for one. thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmquist@gmail.com>




















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Re: Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

Pamela Dominguez
 

That doesn't make sense? Who told you you were deafblind if you could hear and understand people? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Hooley
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing aids.

I remember being told that I was deafblind, and I was wearing hearing aids and able to understand speech, so I would say you have it too.

Hth,

On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Thom Spittle <thom3of5@gmail.com> wrote:

At what point do people cross over from blindness with hearing loss and deaf
blind?
I have hearing loss in the upper register of one ear. I have a family
history of profound hearing loss, along with RP.
I was thinking of applying for the I can Connect project, to get a jump
start on any skills I would need as a deaf blind person.
I just don't know if I am deag blind, or blind with hearing loss.
Any comments are appreciated.

Thom

Thomas Spittle



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

Exactly my point. I think that what many of us here need is a list focused
on blind people who have hearing issues with the focus being on blind with
hearing rather than deaf-blind.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

There's also the complication of people who were born deaf, learned to
communicate in Sign, and lost their sight while deaf, rather than those of
us born blind, who lost hearing some time afterward, and use speech as our
primary mode of communication. You can get deaf-blind people from both of
those sets, but because of the innate differences due to culture, etc, they
have very little in common with each other.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.

A lot of us would not be considered deaf-blind, just blind people with some
hearing loss who need hearing aids.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 3:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.





Hi Kate,



I would look for a list for the deaf-blind. There is surely one available.
If you cannot find a list and you have specific questions, you could contact
Affiliated Blind of Louisiana. They are the only training center for the
deaf-blind in the Southern US, they also have many resources available. If
you do not live in this area, they can direct you to the closest resource in
your area. Deaf-blind resources are not as plentiful as they for persons who
are just blind or deaf. The contact number for ABL is 800-319-4444.



Michael







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Looking for an email list for blind users of hearing
aids.



Hi all,

Does anyone know of a list for blind users of hearing aids?
So many times people end up with hearing aids that don't seem to work
correctly or audiologist that don't quite understand the needs of a blind
person, or just have a few questions about their particular brand of aid.
It would be great if there were such a forum for this discussion. If there
isn't, it would be nice if one could be created. But why reinvent the wheel
if it is already in existence. If anyone knows of such a list please let me
know as there seems to be a need for one. thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmquist@gmail.com>




















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two more comments

Gene
 

I learned about a feature I hadn't looked into when I saw my messages unintentionally reach the list after I didn't approve them.  there is a pending feature that is valuable to know about.  It will help me not have messages unintentionally reach the list and it will also allow me to approve messages if I accidentally delete one I intended to approve.  I had other ways of approving those messages but this way is much more convenient. 
 
It seems to me that someone should do a short tutorial on the Groups.io interface for new blind group owners.  Maybe I'll do one. 
 
Gene


A test

Gene
 

Hi Gene, It's me approving your message. Laz

This is a test.
 
Gene


Re: is there a standalone kindle reader that blind folks can use?

Jim Rawls
 

Hi Mary,

I am a Kurzweil user, and remember your name from the former group. This kindle thing is for a dr. friend of mine who has recently become blind. I am teaching him how to use jaws with his computer, but I think he would be really interested in the fire tablet. What more do you know about it? You can write me off list at jazzpiano@.... Com. Jim

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] is there a standalone kindle reader that blind folks can use?

 

Hi Jim,
Yes, you can certainly use the Kindle on a PC with either Jaws or NVDA. The support has gotten much better in the last couple of months. And yes, you can also use some of the Kindle e-reader‘s. Those are the devices that are made just for reading books. Otherwise, the cheapest alternative is to purchase a Kindle fire tablet. That lets you re-kindle books and also do other things. And right now, those tablets are on a good deal of Amazon. The cheapest one is the fire seven and I think it’s $30 right now. The HD eight is $50, and the HD 10 is $100 for the les expensive device. Aside from size, the major difference that would concern us would be the fact that both theeight and the 10 have two speakers, and they sound better than the seven. Also the 10 has a newer processor and more storage space, although all of them come with a card slot. I don’t have personal experience using the E readers, but I know that some of them can be used. 
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I don’t have a kindle reader now, but I am thinking about getting one. Is there a standalone kindle reader that I can get that I wouldn’t have to use my computer with it? If not that, how does one use the kindle with a P?C? Jim

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