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Re: Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Grumpy Dave, congratulations! Glad you were able to get the thing done! Hint! Amazon uses headings extensively. It also has skip to content links at the top of the pages. On a site like that, using your links list may prove helpful, though I have found that just using the h-key is far more effective.

When I said that I was wondering if the fields in the form had been correctly filled out, it wasn't meant as a criticism. but rather a question prompted by experience.

Have a better day! Hey, it's the third sunday of Advent, Christmas is only a week away. <smiling> Our organist has threatened to bring a sleeping bag and an air mattress to church on Saturday because there are so many services to play. She's got Saturday on the 23rd, morning Masses at 9:30 and 11:30, then she has the 4:30 Mass and pageant on that same day which is Christmas Eve. I think there's an early evening service too. though the 10:00 P.M. Christmas Mass is at the other church site. Then, she's got 9:30 and 11:30 Masses on Christmas Day. Who knows, she might actually do it! <grinning> That's what I call extreme service of "note".

Ann P.

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Skype: Putertutor

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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Amazon Echo conference calling?

Walter Ramage
 

Hi.  Thanks.  I thought that might be the case.  I was asking on behalf of a friend as I don’t own an echo as I don’t think I have a need for one as I can ask Siri anything I need to know and I know the Echo will play music but I have a huge music library and a high end music system so have no need to pay for a music subscription.  Now if Aleexa can do the house cleaning, make the dinner, wash the dishes, do the laundry, drive the car, read the mail and mowe the lawn then I would consider getting one but even then, isn’t that what a wife is for LOL.  On the up side though you don’t always have to compliment Eleexa or buy her gifts or let her spend a fortune on shopping trips LOL. Walter.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: 17 December 2017 03:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Amazon Echo conference calling?

 

 

Hi Walter,

 

If you are making this conference call through a service wherein you call into a toll free number to join the conference, or if you have your own system that the different participants connect through, then I believe you should be able to do this through an Echo or Dot. If you are trying to connect to each participant by calling each one of them as in a 3 way call, then I believe not.

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Amazon Echo conference calling?

 

Hi all.  I know that someone with an Amazon Echo or dot etc can call another person in their contacts via the Echo.  However does anybody know if this can be extended to a 3 or 4 person, or more conference call?  Or might it just be that it is only possible to have a one to one call at any one time?  Walter.

 

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Re: Automation of Everything, is a BADThing!

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Dave, sometimes when I am on an unruly website and having feats with it, I
always refresh the screen! For Jaws, that will be Insert-Escape; for
Window-Eyes, it's Insert-Tab. Once the screen is refreshed, I am able to
complete whatever transaction I started.

I've been trying to configure a number of Google apps online that I am
playing ball with and I have had to refresh the screen more than once. Web
pages are living many of us behind much faster than I can shake a stick at.


As for clerks not available to help with pieces of information, I suppose we
can blame that on overregulation. If Starbucks has at least five employees,
it must provide them health insurance. So, what does Starbucks do to get
around having to offer insurance to almost any employee? Well, make them
all part-time employees and make sure they don't work more than 20 to 28.5
hours a week. There, no need to worry about offering health insurance
anymore. Why? Their total work hours DO NOT equal 40 or more!!

Law is an ass that constantly finds ways to ride out the storm and remain
unscathed. With each one in the books, there's always a loophole that's
unpatchable. The ADA is a classic example; for me, it has been a less
helpful piece of legislation and the courts keep watering it down.

I am in the throes of accreditation in my line of business. For the past 11
months, I have been reading and editing documents for this purpose. There
are ten accreditation agencies sanctioned by my beloved federal government;
finding one that would send me the materials I need in an accessible
electronic format has meant grinding my teeth and brains out. Whilst they
demand that my business be located in an ADA-compliant premises even though
I don't own the building, they themselves ARE NOT REQUIRED to be
ADA-compliant. I don't know how that works out, but it has been a huge
nightmare for me since February 2017! I'm still holding my wee, small head
high, but I doubt if it's high enough for the POWERS THAT BE to see!
Oh, I must haunt down MSDS which lists the chemical components of liquids I
use. Heck, Windex for washing my windows, something I have done by myself
for more than nine years and NOT A DROP has ever gone into my blind eyes.

Anyway, I better stop before the lights go out: I sure hope you were able
to complete your transactions on Amazon; I also hope that the methodology
proffered here is somewhat helpful. Take care, and don't hide the gifts
under that tree too much; Father Christmas and I will be combing through
your enclave, and I'll be slipping down the chimney to grab my share though
I am uninvited!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado which are not relevant


Re: Amazon Echo conference calling?

Blaster
 

There are remotes available, however, I don't own one or even know
what they do exactly. It would be great if they made one that
resembled a phone with buttons.

Blaster

On 12/16/17, Michael Boyd <mike122061@...> wrote:

Well, that's true isn't it. I really do not know a lot about the Echo
devices as I do not own one. I do use a conference system quite a lot
however, and it requires that a code be dialed in to join a conference call.
Does the Echo have a remote control that could possibly be used to enter a
code?

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Blaster
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Amazon Echo conference calling?

You bring up an interesting point. Many conference calls require you to push
a button or input an access code, can this be done by voice on an echo?
I haven't found any info that says you can, maybe there's a skill?

Blaster


On 12/16/17, Michael Boyd <mike122061@...> wrote:

Hi Walter,

If you are making this conference call through a service wherein you
call into a toll free number to join the conference, or if you have
your own system that the different participants connect through, then
I believe you should be able to do this through an Echo or Dot. If you
are trying to connect to each participant by calling each one of them
as in a 3 way call, then I believe not.

Michael



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Walter Ramage via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Amazon Echo conference calling?

Hi all. I know that someone with an Amazon Echo or dot etc can call
another person in their contacts via the Echo. However does anybody
know if this can be extended to a 3 or 4 person, or more conference
call? Or might it just be that it is only possible to have a one to one
call at any one time?
Walter.

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Re: Automation of Everything, is a BADThing!

Maureen Pranghofer <maureensmusic@...>
 

Hi
Three love it when people answer the phone when you call, when they let you talk to them.

-----Original Message-----
From: andy.tidwell
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 5:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Automation of Everything, is a BADThing!

Hello Dave, you are not alone maybe there is at least two of us that
feel that way.
It is a crying shame you can't order a stick of dynamite on line and light
it while you are on line and see how they like them apples. LOL.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Automation of Everything, is a BADThing!

Hello,

I've just been Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site, attempting to place an
Order. The KEY word here is Attempting.

For over an hour, was trying to get out of what appeared to be a Loop,
where the Check Out System would ask me for my Shipping Address, then
the Type of Shipping Wanted, then to fill in my Credit Card Info, and
then when I Click on Continue, I would go back to the screen asking for
my Billing Address.

Even Called Amazon's Handicapper Line, only to be told they could not
take my order, but could walk me through placing my order.

The guy was nice, but we couldn't place the order. When I asked if
Amazon had just a regular Order Number, where I might call to place an
order, I was told Amazon doesn't have such a Customer Line. All Orders
are to be placed On Line.

I see this removing of Customer Service Reps as a mistake, as I would
think lots of people would rather Speak to a live person, rather than
hope they ordered correctly On Line.

Perhaps I am in a Smaller Minority than I know? Me and three others
around the World would rather talk with someone when placing an order
than to go On Line.

And the rest of the World has adapted to tapping their I-Pad, and in 30
Seconds they have ordered all of their Christmas Gifts, and look at someone
like me as some kind of Mental Case that needs to be locked away in the
State Mental Hospital!

The difference between me and them is they Tap away on their I-Pad, and
I throw mine on the Sidewalk to Smash the Stupid Thing.

<Slight Laugh> I was reading an article the other day about how
Robotics are going to put most of us out of work in the next 20 years.

I am not so sure, Automating everything is such a Grand Idea.

I am starting to miss the days when I may ask a Store Clerk about an
Item, and they were able to tell me what I wanted to know. But today, I
am constantly being directed to look on their Web Site, even when I am
right there in the Store.

Are the Clerks that do work only their to make sure I don't Steal
somthing?

OK, Rant over. I need to go back to Amazon, log back in, and see if I
can complete my order. Fun! Fun! Fun!

Grumpy Dave








Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


Re: getting ready to go to windows 10

Blaster
 

He was describing a clean install. I think you just want to upgrade to
windows 10.
Check out this link and click on the Yes I'm ready to upgrade button.
It will prompt you to download a file that you can run to start the
upgrade.


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?ranMID=24542&ranEAID=je6NUbpObpQ&ranSiteID=je6NUbpObpQ-aQYFkofuGRR0jD45YRHLEg&tduid=(fb777bc3f96a0be50222a5a0e55b65ed)(256380)(2459594)(je6NUbpObpQ-aQYFkofuGRR0jD45YRHLEg)()

You don't have to upgrade. It's only being discussed because it will
no longer be free after December 31. Windows 7 support will be active
until the year 2020, so it's really up to you to decide if you want to
upgrade or not.

HTH,
Blaster

On 12/16/17, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:
You mean I really have to do all that before upgrading to Win10? My computer

isn't going to talk during the bootup process. How am I supposed to know if

I was successful in generating the correct bootup option to boot from a USB

Flash drive?
If this is really necessary, then I think I'll just stick with Windows 7
thank you very much.
It's stable and working great as it is.
Evan


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Boyd
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10


I am assuming that you have downloaded the Media Creation Tool for the
Windows 10 upgrade, in which case you will have to create installation
media. If you downloaded an ISO file, this is also the case. I recommend
creating this media on a USB flash drive of at least 4 GB in size, and
reformat it before doing the process. You will then have to be sure that
your computer will boot to a USB drive if one is detected. This is done on
the boot options page which is brought up during boot up by pressing one of

the function keys on your computer, which varies depending on what computer

you have. In many cases this is usually the F1, F8, or F11 keys, but can
also be another key. If you get this done and you start the upgrade, then I

have found that Narrator will usually start between 5 to 10 minutes after
starting by pressing the key combination: Control + Windows + Enter.
Narrator will start up and you will find yourself on the Country and
language selection page. You only have to make you way from one step to the

next by following the prompts that Narrator speaks. When the selections have

been made and Windows 10 is being installed, there will be a period of
silence whose length will depend on your computer's ability to process the
data, but when the computer reboots and the sign-in screen comes up, then
you have got it.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Sugar Lopez
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

Thanks.
How will I know it's done?
Sorry I am a bit iffy about ths
But I do want to do this
Thanks.


“You are chosen, holy, and blameless before God! For he chose us in Christ
before the foundation of the world that we may be holy and unblemished in
his sight in love (Ephesians 1:4).”
-Sugar Lopez

Your Support is appreciated at:
https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey





-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Lenron
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

You shouldn't lose anything coming from 7 at least not out of the programs
you named. Just run that file and you should be good to go.
The update will take sometime. Once it is done you can use control windows
enter to start narrator get setup done. Then start jaws and you should be
good to go from there.

On 12/16/17, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:
Hello friends

Ok, I have downloaded the link that was posted a while back to windows
10.

I have installed jaws 17

Using a desk top

Office/outlook 2010



I am really r'r'r'really nervous about moving forward to windows 10

Is this something I can do myself?

Or can I have someone from VFO assist me?

Microsoft disability has said they can help but I am nervous about
this and that as I am not as "smart" when it comes to technology
especially on something like this.

Will I loose anything from any current programs, files that I have on
my windows 7 if I move over?

Will it affect my outlook e mail?



Always a relief when I can come to friends like you.

Thanks

Sugar

There is speaking grace. Colossians 4:6 says, "Let your speech be
always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought
to answer every man."

~Blessings, Sugar




--
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Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762














Re: MICROSOFT WORD: HELP WITH PAGE NUMBERING

Maureen Pranghofer <maureensmusic@...>
 

Hi
I don't know commands for Word very well but I transcribe Braille with Duxbury and the code there to insert a page number is alt enter, perhaps this works for Word.

-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 3:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] MICROSOFT WORD: HELP WITH PAGE NUMBERING

Hello Everyone:

It's Word2007 Ultimate. I have a document that's about EIGHT pages long. I
am compelled to NUMBER THE PAGES for ease of reference.

Questions:

1. Which is a better way of numbering each page--top right? Bottom right?
Top left? Or Bottom left?
The numbering is NOT FOR ME, it's to be presented to an inspector with a
PAIR OF EYES.
2. I can't seem to find the keystrokes I need to invoke the page numbering
process. Any pointers?
3. How do I invoke TypeOver using either Window-Eyes or Jaws?

Thanks all for your help!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: getting ready to go to windows 10

Josh Kennedy
 

If you have a smartphone, install the talking goggles app or the be my eyes app. One of those two will work. Then point your phone’s camera at the computer screen and see what it says, or every now and again just press control windows enter and see if narrator starts up.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Evan Reese
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 20:24
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

 

I am also planning to install Windows 10 before the free offer expires.

The only question I would have about what you said below is how will I know

when it's time to start Narrator?

Evan

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar Lopez

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:21 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

 

Thanks.

How will I know it's done?

Sorry I am a bit iffy about ths

But I do want to do this

Thanks.

 

 

“You are chosen, holy, and blameless before God! For he chose us in Christ

before the foundation of the world that we may be holy and unblemished in

his

sight in love (Ephesians 1:4).”

-Sugar Lopez

 

Your Support is appreciated at:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Lenron

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:20 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

 

You shouldn't lose anything coming from 7 at least not out of the programs

you named. Just run that file and you should be good to go.

The update will take sometime. Once it is done you can use control windows

enter to start narrator get setup done. Then start jaws and you should be

good to go from there.

 

On 12/16/17, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:

> Hello friends

> Ok, I have downloaded the link that was posted a while back to windows 10.

> I have installed jaws 17

> Using a desk top

> Office/outlook 2010

> I am really r'r'r'really nervous about moving forward to windows 10

> Is this something I can do myself?

> Or can I have someone from VFO assist me?

> Microsoft disability has said they can help but I am nervous about

> this and that as I am not as "smart" when it comes to technology

> especially on something like this.

> Will I loose anything from any current programs, files  that I have on

> my windows 7 if I move over?

> Will it affect my outlook e mail?

> Always a relief when I can come to friends like you.

> Thanks

> Sugar

> There is speaking grace. Colossians 4:6 says, "Let your speech be

> always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought

> to answer every man."

> ~Blessings, Sugar

 

 

--

Lenron Brown

Cell: 985-271-2832

Skype: ron.brown762

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Automation of Everything, is a BADThing!

Josh Kennedy
 

In NVDA if you go into its preferences then into browse mode settings, uncheck use screen layout when supported. Then it’ll show you forms and everything line by line.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 20:48
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Automation of Everything, is a BADThing!

 

Hi all,

 

Were you using the accessible Amazon or the other regular site?

 

I often find that with forms like this it is best to look at them line

by line.  You're probably missing something in one of the fields or

you've typed in the wrong info in one of the fields.

 

Once you get into the checkout, it's usually fairly easy to check out.

 

One of the things that makes these forms so difficult to fill out in

Jaws or NVDA is that you have to switch from one mode to the other in

order to accomplish what you need.  I bless System Access every single

day because when they designed it, they made it so you don't have to

switch between modes to fill out a form.    You can read line by line

and fill out the form as you go.  This allows you to move around in the

form and look at what you've filled in and edit it without having to

switch modes and fiddle.   What surprises me is that more people are

unaware of this than you'd think.

 

My advice is to go back over the form and make sure you've filled in

all the fields correctly.

 

One nice thing about Amazon is that it keeps tract of where you send

stuff and all you need to do is hit the radio button on a given address

to select it as the shipping address.  They even keep tract of your

credit card and you'll see something that says card ending in 2222 and

you just activate that radio button and boom.

 

Don't lose heart, I'm sure it can be fixed.  If you can't get somebody

with a working pair of eyes, try again in the morning when you're fresh

and your patience hasn't been stretched to the limit.

 

Ann P.

 

Original message:

> Hello,

 

> I've just been Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site, attempting to place an

> Order.    The KEY word here is Attempting.

 

> For over an hour, was trying to get out of what appeared to be a Loop,

> where the Check Out System would ask me for my Shipping Address, then

> the Type of Shipping Wanted, then to fill in my Credit Card Info, and

> then when I Click on Continue, I would go back to the screen asking for

> my Billing Address.

 

> Even Called Amazon's Handicapper Line, only to be told they could not

> take my order, but could walk me through placing my order.

 

> The guy was nice, but we couldn't place the order.  When I asked if

> Amazon had just a regular Order Number, where I might call to place an

> order, I was told Amazon doesn't have such a Customer Line.  All Orders

> are to be placed On Line.

 

> I see this removing of Customer Service Reps as a mistake, as I would

> think lots of people would rather Speak to a live person, rather than

> hope they ordered correctly On Line.

 

> Perhaps I am in a Smaller Minority than I know?  Me and three others

> around the World would rather talk with someone when placing an order

> than to go On Line.

 

> And the rest of the World has adapted to tapping their I-Pad, and in 30

> Seconds they have ordered all of their Christmas Gifts, and look at someone

> like me as some kind of Mental Case that needs to be locked away in the

> State Mental Hospital!

 

> The difference between me and them is they Tap away on their I-Pad, and

> I throw mine on the Sidewalk to Smash the Stupid Thing.

 

> <Slight Laugh>   I was reading an article the other day about how

> Robotics are going to put most of us out of work in the next 20 years.

 

> I am not so sure, Automating everything is such a Grand Idea.

 

> I am starting to miss the days when I may ask a Store Clerk about an

> Item, and they were able to tell me what I wanted to know.  But today, I

> am constantly being directed to look on their Web Site, even when I am

> right there in the Store.

 

> Are the Clerks that do work only their to make sure I don't Steal

> somthing?

 

> OK, Rant over.  I need to go back to Amazon, log back in, and see if I

> can complete my order.  Fun!  Fun!  Fun!

 

> Grumpy Dave

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

 

--

Ann K. Parsons

Portal Tutoring

EMAIL:  akp@...

Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/

Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info

Skype: Putertutor

 

"All that is gold does not glitter,

Not all those who wander are lost."

 

 

 


Re: getting ready to go to windows 10

Evan Reese
 

Well it's a big relief to hear that.
Thanks very much. I feel encouraged again.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Lenron
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

When I upgraded to win 10 I didn't have to create a bootable win 10
disc. I just ran thw win 10 creation media tool. . It took about 45
minutes or so.

On 12/16/17, Michael Boyd <mike122061@...> wrote:

I am assuming that you have downloaded the Media Creation Tool for the
Windows 10 upgrade, in which case you will have to create installation
media. If you downloaded an ISO file, this is also the case. I recommend
creating this media on a USB flash drive of at least 4 GB in size, and
reformat it before doing the process. You will then have to be sure that
your computer will boot to a USB drive if one is detected. This is done on
the boot options page which is brought up during boot up by pressing one of
the function keys on your computer, which varies depending on what computer
you have. In many cases this is usually the F1, F8, or F11 keys, but can
also be another key. If you get this done and you start the upgrade, then I
have found that Narrator will usually start between 5 to 10 minutes after
starting by pressing the key combination: Control + Windows + Enter.
Narrator will start up and you will find yourself on the Country and
language selection page. You only have to make you way from one step to the
next by following the prompts that Narrator speaks. When the selections have
been made and Windows 10 is being installed, there will be a period of
silence whose length will depend on your computer's ability to process the
data, but when the computer reboots and the sign-in screen comes up, then
you have got it.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sugar Lopez
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

Thanks.
How will I know it's done?
Sorry I am a bit iffy about ths
But I do want to do this
Thanks.


“You are chosen, holy, and blameless before God! For he chose us in Christ
before the foundation of the world that we may be holy and unblemished in
his sight in love (Ephesians 1:4).”
-Sugar Lopez

Your Support is appreciated at:
https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey





-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lenron
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

You shouldn't lose anything coming from 7 at least not out of the programs
you named. Just run that file and you should be good to go.
The update will take sometime. Once it is done you can use control windows
enter to start narrator get setup done. Then start jaws and you should be
good to go from there.

On 12/16/17, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:
Hello friends

Ok, I have downloaded the link that was posted a while back to windows
10.

I have installed jaws 17

Using a desk top

Office/outlook 2010



I am really r'r'r'really nervous about moving forward to windows 10

Is this something I can do myself?

Or can I have someone from VFO assist me?

Microsoft disability has said they can help but I am nervous about
this and that as I am not as "smart" when it comes to technology
especially on something like this.

Will I loose anything from any current programs, files that I have on
my windows 7 if I move over?

Will it affect my outlook e mail?



Always a relief when I can come to friends like you.

Thanks

Sugar

There is speaking grace. Colossians 4:6 says, "Let your speech be
always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought
to answer every man."

~Blessings, Sugar




--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762










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Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: getting ready to go to windows 10

Evan Reese
 

You mean I really have to do all that before upgrading to Win10? My computer isn't going to talk during the bootup process. How am I supposed to know if I was successful in generating the correct bootup option to boot from a USB Flash drive?
If this is really necessary, then I think I'll just stick with Windows 7 thank you very much.
It's stable and working great as it is.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Boyd
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10


I am assuming that you have downloaded the Media Creation Tool for the Windows 10 upgrade, in which case you will have to create installation media. If you downloaded an ISO file, this is also the case. I recommend creating this media on a USB flash drive of at least 4 GB in size, and reformat it before doing the process. You will then have to be sure that your computer will boot to a USB drive if one is detected. This is done on the boot options page which is brought up during boot up by pressing one of the function keys on your computer, which varies depending on what computer you have. In many cases this is usually the F1, F8, or F11 keys, but can also be another key. If you get this done and you start the upgrade, then I have found that Narrator will usually start between 5 to 10 minutes after starting by pressing the key combination: Control + Windows + Enter. Narrator will start up and you will find yourself on the Country and language selection page. You only have to make you way from one step to the next by following the prompts that Narrator speaks. When the selections have been made and Windows 10 is being installed, there will be a period of silence whose length will depend on your computer's ability to process the data, but when the computer reboots and the sign-in screen comes up, then you have got it.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sugar Lopez
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

Thanks.
How will I know it's done?
Sorry I am a bit iffy about ths
But I do want to do this
Thanks.


“You are chosen, holy, and blameless before God! For he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world that we may be holy and unblemished in his sight in love (Ephesians 1:4).”
-Sugar Lopez

Your Support is appreciated at:
https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey





-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

You shouldn't lose anything coming from 7 at least not out of the programs you named. Just run that file and you should be good to go.
The update will take sometime. Once it is done you can use control windows enter to start narrator get setup done. Then start jaws and you should be good to go from there.

On 12/16/17, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:
Hello friends

Ok, I have downloaded the link that was posted a while back to windows 10.

I have installed jaws 17

Using a desk top

Office/outlook 2010



I am really r'r'r'really nervous about moving forward to windows 10

Is this something I can do myself?

Or can I have someone from VFO assist me?

Microsoft disability has said they can help but I am nervous about
this and that as I am not as "smart" when it comes to technology
especially on something like this.

Will I loose anything from any current programs, files that I have on
my windows 7 if I move over?

Will it affect my outlook e mail?



Always a relief when I can come to friends like you.

Thanks

Sugar

There is speaking grace. Colossians 4:6 says, "Let your speech be
always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought
to answer every man."

~Blessings, Sugar




--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Amazon Echo conference calling?

Michael Boyd <mike122061@...>
 

Well, that's true isn't it. I really do not know a lot about the Echo devices as I do not own one. I do use a conference system quite a lot however, and it requires that a code be dialed in to join a conference call. Does the Echo have a remote control that could possibly be used to enter a code?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blaster
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Amazon Echo conference calling?

You bring up an interesting point. Many conference calls require you to push a button or input an access code, can this be done by voice on an echo?
I haven't found any info that says you can, maybe there's a skill?

Blaster


On 12/16/17, Michael Boyd <mike122061@...> wrote:

Hi Walter,

If you are making this conference call through a service wherein you
call into a toll free number to join the conference, or if you have
your own system that the different participants connect through, then
I believe you should be able to do this through an Echo or Dot. If you
are trying to connect to each participant by calling each one of them
as in a 3 way call, then I believe not.

Michael



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Walter Ramage via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Amazon Echo conference calling?

Hi all. I know that someone with an Amazon Echo or dot etc can call
another person in their contacts via the Echo. However does anybody
know if this can be extended to a 3 or 4 person, or more conference
call? Or might it just be that it is only possible to have a one to one call at any one time?
Walter.

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Re: getting ready to go to windows 10

Michael Boyd <mike122061@...>
 

Yes, there is the "Upgrade this PC now." Option isn't there. I had forgotten about that. I always create the media so that I can use it again should I need to. After big updates, I download a new Media Creation Tool.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

When I upgraded to win 10 I didn't have to create a bootable win 10 disc. I just ran thw win 10 creation media tool. . It took about 45 minutes or so.

On 12/16/17, Michael Boyd <mike122061@...> wrote:

I am assuming that you have downloaded the Media Creation Tool for the
Windows 10 upgrade, in which case you will have to create installation
media. If you downloaded an ISO file, this is also the case. I
recommend creating this media on a USB flash drive of at least 4 GB in
size, and reformat it before doing the process. You will then have to
be sure that your computer will boot to a USB drive if one is
detected. This is done on the boot options page which is brought up
during boot up by pressing one of the function keys on your computer,
which varies depending on what computer you have. In many cases this
is usually the F1, F8, or F11 keys, but can also be another key. If
you get this done and you start the upgrade, then I have found that
Narrator will usually start between 5 to 10 minutes after starting by pressing the key combination: Control + Windows + Enter.
Narrator will start up and you will find yourself on the Country and
language selection page. You only have to make you way from one step
to the next by following the prompts that Narrator speaks. When the
selections have been made and Windows 10 is being installed, there
will be a period of silence whose length will depend on your
computer's ability to process the data, but when the computer reboots
and the sign-in screen comes up, then you have got it.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Sugar Lopez
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

Thanks.
How will I know it's done?
Sorry I am a bit iffy about ths
But I do want to do this
Thanks.


“You are chosen, holy, and blameless before God! For he chose us in
Christ before the foundation of the world that we may be holy and
unblemished in his sight in love (Ephesians 1:4).”
-Sugar Lopez

Your Support is appreciated at:
https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey





-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

You shouldn't lose anything coming from 7 at least not out of the
programs you named. Just run that file and you should be good to go.
The update will take sometime. Once it is done you can use control
windows enter to start narrator get setup done. Then start jaws and
you should be good to go from there.

On 12/16/17, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:
Hello friends

Ok, I have downloaded the link that was posted a while back to
windows 10.

I have installed jaws 17

Using a desk top

Office/outlook 2010



I am really r'r'r'really nervous about moving forward to windows 10

Is this something I can do myself?

Or can I have someone from VFO assist me?

Microsoft disability has said they can help but I am nervous about
this and that as I am not as "smart" when it comes to technology
especially on something like this.

Will I loose anything from any current programs, files that I have
on my windows 7 if I move over?

Will it affect my outlook e mail?



Always a relief when I can come to friends like you.

Thanks

Sugar

There is speaking grace. Colossians 4:6 says, "Let your speech be
always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought
to answer every man."

~Blessings, Sugar




--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762










--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

Michael Boyd <mike122061@...>
 

Hi Dave,

I too find the regular Amazon site easier to deal with than the "Accessible" site. The biggest problem with Amazon being so cantankerous is that there is so much content on the site and it is continuously updating itself to renew this content. I have clicked on a link to a specific product and gotten taken to the details page for a completely different one. This is how quickly it can change at times, and with the Christmas Season upon us, there are a bazillion customers shopping on Amazon every second of the day. Good luck for the rest of the Holidays!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 8:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

Hello,

I will spare all of you the Rant, that I could so Easily Continue.

However, Gene had suggested I try a different Browser. Instead, I used a different System, and this time used NVDA instead of JAWS 2018.

I was able to complete my order after about 45 minutes of dealing with the same Pages as before, along with some new ones never seen before, and a few Pop Up Amazon Ads.


My Word Amazon has a LOT of text and Links on every Page! Most of it
having little to do with what it is you are attempting to accomplish.

But, I survived to perhaps place another order on Amazon in the Future.

Someone suggested I may have had a improperly filled out the Order Form.
I will admit, Filling out Forms has Snagged me in the past, but not the case this time.

I don't want to blame it on JAWS, but NVDA did read me more than I was able to read with Jaws.

The first time, I was Struggling on Amazon's site that is to be Screen Reader Friendly.
The second time, I logged into the site that everyone sees when they go to Amazon.com.

The Non-Screen Reader Friendly site.

And on the Non-Screen Reader Friendly pages, I was able to fill out what was needed, choose the right choices and Pay for the order. Go Figure!


So, Gene, Thanks for the Help,

Grumpy Dave


Re: getting ready to go to windows 10

Lenron
 

When I upgraded to win 10 I didn't have to create a bootable win 10
disc. I just ran thw win 10 creation media tool. . It took about 45
minutes or so.

On 12/16/17, Michael Boyd <mike122061@...> wrote:

I am assuming that you have downloaded the Media Creation Tool for the
Windows 10 upgrade, in which case you will have to create installation
media. If you downloaded an ISO file, this is also the case. I recommend
creating this media on a USB flash drive of at least 4 GB in size, and
reformat it before doing the process. You will then have to be sure that
your computer will boot to a USB drive if one is detected. This is done on
the boot options page which is brought up during boot up by pressing one of
the function keys on your computer, which varies depending on what computer
you have. In many cases this is usually the F1, F8, or F11 keys, but can
also be another key. If you get this done and you start the upgrade, then I
have found that Narrator will usually start between 5 to 10 minutes after
starting by pressing the key combination: Control + Windows + Enter.
Narrator will start up and you will find yourself on the Country and
language selection page. You only have to make you way from one step to the
next by following the prompts that Narrator speaks. When the selections have
been made and Windows 10 is being installed, there will be a period of
silence whose length will depend on your computer's ability to process the
data, but when the computer reboots and the sign-in screen comes up, then
you have got it.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sugar Lopez
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

Thanks.
How will I know it's done?
Sorry I am a bit iffy about ths
But I do want to do this
Thanks.


“You are chosen, holy, and blameless before God! For he chose us in Christ
before the foundation of the world that we may be holy and unblemished in
his sight in love (Ephesians 1:4).”
-Sugar Lopez

Your Support is appreciated at:
https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey





-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lenron
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

You shouldn't lose anything coming from 7 at least not out of the programs
you named. Just run that file and you should be good to go.
The update will take sometime. Once it is done you can use control windows
enter to start narrator get setup done. Then start jaws and you should be
good to go from there.

On 12/16/17, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:
Hello friends

Ok, I have downloaded the link that was posted a while back to windows
10.

I have installed jaws 17

Using a desk top

Office/outlook 2010



I am really r'r'r'really nervous about moving forward to windows 10

Is this something I can do myself?

Or can I have someone from VFO assist me?

Microsoft disability has said they can help but I am nervous about
this and that as I am not as "smart" when it comes to technology
especially on something like this.

Will I loose anything from any current programs, files that I have on
my windows 7 if I move over?

Will it affect my outlook e mail?



Always a relief when I can come to friends like you.

Thanks

Sugar

There is speaking grace. Colossians 4:6 says, "Let your speech be
always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought
to answer every man."

~Blessings, Sugar




--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762









--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

Blaster
 

That just speaks to Gene's point of trying different combinations of
screen readers and browsers. I've never used window eyes but many
people on this list have said they like it and are sorry it's gone.
No matter what, you've always got another tool in your tool belt and
that's a good thing,
Blaster

On 12/16/17, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:
Hmmm, I'm using an outdated version of Window Eyes, and I've ordered a few
things recently for Christmas with no problems. There are check marks, and I

check them to make sure the ones are checked that are supposed to be
checked, such as which payment option, which address to ship to, shipping
option, and that's it. If I don't want to use the default payment option or

shipping option that's checked, I check another box. It's been really simple

for me for a long time.
Unlike most Amazon pages, the ones for checking out are pretty streamlined
so far as I've noticed.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Blaster
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

Thanks for reporting all of that, even the rant, lol. I need to place
an order on amazon this week, so I'll be ready for the obstacles.

Since you went through all of the trouble, I hope you bought yourself
something cool!
Blaster


On 12/16/17, Dave <dlh007@...> wrote:
Hello,

I will spare all of you the Rant, that I could so Easily Continue.

However, Gene had suggested I try a different Browser. Instead, I used
a different System, and this time used NVDA instead of JAWS 2018.

I was able to complete my order after about 45 minutes of dealing with
the same Pages as before, along with some new ones never seen before,
and a few Pop Up Amazon Ads.


My Word Amazon has a LOT of text and Links on every Page! Most of it
having little to do with what it is you are attempting to accomplish.

But, I survived to perhaps place another order on Amazon in the Future.

Someone suggested I may have had a improperly filled out the Order Form.
I will admit, Filling out Forms has Snagged me in the past, but not the
case this time.

I don't want to blame it on JAWS, but NVDA did read me more than I was
able to read with Jaws.

The first time, I was Struggling on Amazon's site that is to be Screen
Reader Friendly.
The second time, I logged into the site that everyone sees when they go
to Amazon.com.

The Non-Screen Reader Friendly site.

And on the Non-Screen Reader Friendly pages, I was able to fill out what
was needed, choose the right choices and Pay for the order. Go Figure!


So, Gene, Thanks for the Help,

Grumpy Dave














Re: getting ready to go to windows 10

Michael Boyd <mike122061@...>
 

I am assuming that you have downloaded the Media Creation Tool for the Windows 10 upgrade, in which case you will have to create installation media. If you downloaded an ISO file, this is also the case. I recommend creating this media on a USB flash drive of at least 4 GB in size, and reformat it before doing the process. You will then have to be sure that your computer will boot to a USB drive if one is detected. This is done on the boot options page which is brought up during boot up by pressing one of the function keys on your computer, which varies depending on what computer you have. In many cases this is usually the F1, F8, or F11 keys, but can also be another key. If you get this done and you start the upgrade, then I have found that Narrator will usually start between 5 to 10 minutes after starting by pressing the key combination: Control + Windows + Enter. Narrator will start up and you will find yourself on the Country and language selection page. You only have to make you way from one step to the next by following the prompts that Narrator speaks. When the selections have been made and Windows 10 is being installed, there will be a period of silence whose length will depend on your computer's ability to process the data, but when the computer reboots and the sign-in screen comes up, then you have got it.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sugar Lopez
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

Thanks.
How will I know it's done?
Sorry I am a bit iffy about ths
But I do want to do this
Thanks.


“You are chosen, holy, and blameless before God! For he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world that we may be holy and unblemished in his sight in love (Ephesians 1:4).”
-Sugar Lopez

Your Support is appreciated at:
https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey





-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] getting ready to go to windows 10

You shouldn't lose anything coming from 7 at least not out of the programs you named. Just run that file and you should be good to go.
The update will take sometime. Once it is done you can use control windows enter to start narrator get setup done. Then start jaws and you should be good to go from there.

On 12/16/17, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:
Hello friends

Ok, I have downloaded the link that was posted a while back to windows 10.

I have installed jaws 17

Using a desk top

Office/outlook 2010



I am really r'r'r'really nervous about moving forward to windows 10

Is this something I can do myself?

Or can I have someone from VFO assist me?

Microsoft disability has said they can help but I am nervous about
this and that as I am not as "smart" when it comes to technology
especially on something like this.

Will I loose anything from any current programs, files that I have on
my windows 7 if I move over?

Will it affect my outlook e mail?



Always a relief when I can come to friends like you.

Thanks

Sugar

There is speaking grace. Colossians 4:6 says, "Let your speech be
always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought
to answer every man."

~Blessings, Sugar




--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Amazon Echo conference calling?

Blaster
 

You bring up an interesting point. Many conference calls require you
to push a button or input an access code, can this be done by voice on
an echo?
I haven't found any info that says you can, maybe there's a skill?

Blaster

On 12/16/17, Michael Boyd <mike122061@...> wrote:

Hi Walter,

If you are making this conference call through a service wherein you call
into a toll free number to join the conference, or if you have your own
system that the different participants connect through, then I believe you
should be able to do this through an Echo or Dot. If you are trying to
connect to each participant by calling each one of them as in a 3 way call,
then I believe not.

Michael



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Walter Ramage via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Amazon Echo conference calling?

Hi all. I know that someone with an Amazon Echo or dot etc can call another
person in their contacts via the Echo. However does anybody know if this
can be extended to a 3 or 4 person, or more conference call? Or might it
just be that it is only possible to have a one to one call at any one time?
Walter.

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