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Re: Skype Alternative

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

On my phone, it's Touch & Lift for typing and for opening apps, I tap once
after locating the icon for the app I wish to open! Very few apps in my
collection force me to double tap. Heck, I can tell Google Assistant to
open whichever app and, voilá, it does!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Skype Alternative

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Ann wrote in part:

"<grinning> I don't think that Olusegun is an Inuit native. You may want
to check the spelling of his name."

Oh sister, need I show you how my name has been spelled through the ages? I
bet you'll get a good laugh!! Even on the government-issued state ID, it
was INCORRECTLY WRITTEN 15 times before the issuers somehow managed to get
it right. I typed it on paper and showed it to them when I presented for an
ID, no dice! So, spelling my name incorrectly has grown twigs and dates on
me, I just pluck and eat and try to be merry, <smile!!>

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Skype Alternative

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Ileni wrote in part:

"and the fact is that you cannot access everything on an Android device via
the keyboard."

Not sure I understand what constitutes "everything". Speaking specifically
for myself, I am doing well using a bluetooth keyboard with my Android toys!


Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Skype Alternative

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Joseph, if she's happy doing her business the way she does it now, that's
great insofar as her preferred method still works flawlessly. Believe it or
not, brother, I still run Windows XP Professional even though it's been said
that it won't work for this and that which isn't the situation for my
use-case scenario. But, I also have a Windows7 box that I use as well.

Even with all that, I want to DITCH WINDOWS and run exclusively with my
Android toys! Why? A number of reasons:

First, my preferred screen reader, Window-Eyes, died! Yes it is still
usable, but, on the business side of things for me, I will need to pay
somewhere between $200 to $250 per hour to have my apps scripted for another
Windows screen reader. As of this minute, I don't want to do that. It's
yet another reason why I am not in a hurry to migrate to Windows10 or any of
its cousins.

Second, Android is much, much cheaper for my use-case scenario. Whereas I
have found lots of apps that I can deploy, certain apps I must use to keep
required business records that may need to be presented to inspectors upon
request have not been ported to Android. These are the apps that still
force me to stick with Windows. Otherwise, I am just watching my Windows
machines die naturally so I can discard them.

Indeed, touch screens may not be for everyone. On my washer, I have had to
write down some notes that I follow dogmatically. My wash machine DOES NOT
talk, and it doesn't have an Android app I can install on my phone. Unless
I can create the time to wash my clothes by hand, wring them out and put
them in the dryer or wait for the sun and then dry them outside on a clothes
line, my choices are few. I do what I can to learn about what's available
and, even though they may not be completely accessible from a blindness
perspective, insofar as they are usable, I am willing to take on the
challenge of learning how to put them to work for my use.

If the truth be told, technology DOES NOT think of and about the blind when
it emerges! Accessibility will always be an afterthought. The product is
created, then later retrofitted for accessibility. Accessible products are
hardly ever mass-produced. If it were so, I should be able to walk over to
BestBuy and purchase either Jaws or a Braille note PDA. My line of business
is also similarly situated. Apps cost somewhere between $5,000 to $10,000;
they ARE NOT accessible and their developers DO NOT CARE or wish to
entertain conversations on making them accessible. Talk to them about ADA
and they ask: "What's that?" These are U.S.-based app developers!
I've had better interactions with app developers in Android land more than I
have had with those who develop strictly for the Windows platform.
Unexpected changes typically overtake what is; once upon a time, it was AT&T
and the Bell companies with the mighty ax. Today, the choices are
limitless. Each individual MUST DETERMINE what a REASONABLE USE-CASE
SCENARIO is and move on from there. I'm glad I can use touchscreen
smartphones in Android land; their use have opened up to me new worlds of
intrigues which can and will only get better. Android is more or less like
Windows with its flexibility; as such, the switch for me should be fairly
easy especially if I can find comparable alternatives for many, or all the
apps I need to deploy for work purposes in Android land. Work for me is
essential; keeping this breathing body and soul in check remain an
energy-tasking exercise against which I can't shake a stick even if I try.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: windows10 upgrade file question

Josh Kennedy
 

Just save it and back it up somewhere.

 

 

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From: Dennis L
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 00:27
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] windows10 upgrade file question

 

Hi, when I download the upgrade file do I run it or save it then run it?

 


Re: windows10 upgrade file question

Blaster
 

I would download it, it's pretty small in size. That way if you have
an error or something you won't need to go online and get it to run it
again.

Blaster

On 12/18/17, Dennis L <dennisl1982@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, when I download the upgrade file do I run it or save it then run it?


Re: Skype Alternative

Josh Kennedy
 

Talkback has a language switcher menu that lets you choose any language espeak supports. You can get into settings directly by pressing f3, or I call it the settings key on the keyboard dock. You do not have to pay over $100 for a good phone. You can get the alcatel a30 for $99. You can read by line with the arrow keys. And if you give someone something in txt file and they asked you to insert pictures into your file, you could not do that with txt or even rtf. .docx is the best file format for inserting pictures, tables with colored text and so on. Sighted people like colored stuff and pictures. Dos is great to play with. And txt or plain text is even good for writing directly in LeTex and other math science codes if you have the  right converter programs. But sighted people expect .docx and pdf files and fancy html 5 on the internet with pictures and colors and so on. Note: there are over 75 to 80 keyboard commands for talkback and even more that android supports. Does android support eSpeak? Answer, yes it does. Does ESpeak support polytonic greek? I do not know. But if it does, then android also supports polytonic greek. I only use English on my tablet. But it is easy to switch keyboard language layouts in settings.

 

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From: Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 01:12
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

 

I don't have any issues using XP.  In fact, I'm using it right now.

Wordperfect has an option to save as txt.  So you could do it that way

and no one would know the difference.  If I can't even do a simple

thing like read by line, or get into a screen reader's control panel

with the keyboard, there's a problem!  Also, if I'm going to pay over

$100 for a phone, let alone several hundred dollars, it needs to be

able to read and to write in polytonic Greek.  If it's a cheap tablet

for fun, I wouldn't care.  But then, I couldn't use it for everything

either, because I'm constantly switching between languages.

 

On 17/12/2017, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

> I mostly have windows10 for games. Audio games. And testing new modern app

> accessibility.

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.

> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 22:25

> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

> Hmm, for me, Google HangOuts is fully accessible and usable from a

> blindness

> perspective.  I DO NOT use it on my computer, just strictly on my phone!  I

> am one person who wants to DITCH WINDOWS and run only with Android!

> However, thus far, the apps I need to use for keeping certain records for

> my

> wee, small business DO NOT have Android equivalents, so, I'm stuck in that

> regard.

> Sincerely,

> Olusegun

> Denver, Colorado

 

 

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Re: Skype Alternative

Josh Kennedy
 

Yes rtf can retain some formatting and font styles.

 

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From: Angelo Sonnesso
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 06:55
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

 

He probably sends his files as .rtf, which can be read by just about

anything.

 

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Rob Hudson

Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 5:11 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

 

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

But I would never submit anything professional with wordperfect today. It's

too outdated. No longer supported.

 

 

There's a famous author called George R R Martin who still writes his novels

in wordperfec, I think. Lol. Wonder how he submits his stuff to the editor.

Still in hardcopy?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Skype Alternative

Josh Kennedy
 

And that is one reason why I got a tablet with keyboard dock. Because even on android the keyboard lets me browse the web and do things faster than I could on a touch screen. I hardly ever browse the internet on my phone only every now and then. I’d rather do it on my windows computer or tablet with keyboard docking station.

 

 

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From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 07:10
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

 

You can speak for yourself about touchscreens and stuff, but you can’t speak for everybody.  I hate when people say that, just because they can do something, that everybody else can.  Pam.

 

Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:08 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

 

Google has been accessible for 5 or so years now. Also touch screen phones and devices are easy to use. And dos and windows are also easy to use. If someone showed you the basics of using touch screens with screen readers you’d be off and running with it within 2 or 3 days at most. I like both touch screen and non touch screen stuff, dos, windows, all of it is fun to use.

 

 

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From: Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 21:55
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

 

I have no interest in touchscreen phones.  As for Skype Portable, that

is what I was using.  I try, as much as possible, to use portable

versions of programs.  In any case, I'll try Google Hangouts.  I just

didn't think it would be accessible, given their track record.  But I

may be pleasantly surprised. *smile*

 

On 17/12/2017, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.

<ukekearuaro@...> wrote:

> Yikes, I forgot all about Google HangOuts!  I suppose it's because I use it

> exclusively on my Android toy.  I'd join David in suggesting that it be

> given a test drive; it might run better in your Windows7 box!

> Sincerely,

> Olusegun

> Denver, Colorado

>

 

 

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Re: Skype Alternative

Josh Kennedy
 

On my phone I don’t drag my finger on the screen much anymore. I usually can put my finger on the button or touch screen control I want on the first try, and double tap it.

 

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From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 07:10
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

 

I don't even do that much in the way of gestures.  Pam.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Eleni Vamvakari

Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:14 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

 

Personally, I must have a real keyboard or I'm not satisfied.  I want

to use commands, menus, and/or hotkeys to accomplish my goals.  I have

no patience with gestures, with the possible exception of dragging my

finger on the screen until I find what I want and either lifting it or

tapping it. But that's as far as I go, and even then, I could never

use that as a substitute for typing.  It would just be something to

try for fun.

 

On 17/12/2017, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

> Google has been accessible for 5 or so years now. Also touch screen phones

> and devices are easy to use. And dos and windows are also easy to use. If

> someone showed you the basics of using touch screens with screen readers

> you’d be off and running with it within 2 or 3 days at most. I like both

> touch screen and non touch screen stuff, dos, windows, all of it is fun to

> use.

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Eleni Vamvakari

> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 21:55

> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

> I have no interest in touchscreen phones.  As for Skype Portable, that

> is what I was using.  I try, as much as possible, to use portable

> versions of programs.  In any case, I'll try Google Hangouts.  I just

> didn't think it would be accessible, given their track record.  But I

> may be pleasantly surprised. *smile*

> On 17/12/2017, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.

> <ukekearuaro@...> wrote:

>> Yikes, I forgot all about Google HangOuts!  I suppose it's because I use

>> it

>> exclusively on my Android toy.  I'd join David in suggesting that it be

>> given a test drive; it might run better in your Windows7 box!

>> 

>> Sincerely,

>> Olusegun

>> Denver, Colorado

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

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Re: Skype Alternative

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

He probably submits them in .rtf files.

Ann P.

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Re: Skype Alternative

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

<grinning> I don't think that Olusegun is an Inuit native. You may want to check the spelling of his name. It is unusual, that is why, as per an earlier discussion, it pays to check a name out before attempting to type it.

Ann P.

Original message:

Alaskan, I hate to tell you this but she's not interested in obtaining any kind of smart phone. Unfortunately. I tried to tell her, Wayne she was looking at getting a new phone, that there are a lot of things that she'll be a will to doing it and then there's some things, dad she wanted to do that she would no longer be able to do. So getting a smart phone was out of the question for her. I even tried to tell her, that she could navigated via the keyboard, and it still was like no, I can't do that. Did not even want to try.
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On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. <ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com> wrote:
Ileni, besides my touchscreen phone, I also have a Bluetooth keyboard.
Having pared it with my phone, I am able to successfully send and read text
messages using a Bluetooth keyboard with no hassles of any kind. Heck, I
can even make phone calls, surf the web, reach out to my contacts on Skype,
read and respond to WhatsApp texts, et al using a Bluetooth keyboard. The
one I have is a portable trifold that fits snugly into my utility bag or
coat pocket.
So, it's not true that one can't use a keyboard with a touchscreen device.
Even on iPhones, Bluetooth keyboards can also be deployed. There are
Android tablets with detachable keyboards; and even if the keyboard DOES NOT
come with the tablets, Bluetooth keyboards are reasonably priced and, on the
average, they won't milk the bank to death.
Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado






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Re: Skype Alternative

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

I'm happy that you like touch screens. Touch screens are good, but one has to have a certain mind set in order to use them. It may be that in order to use touch screens one needs to have a good visual sense. I don't know. But I can tell you this much. I've tried touch screens and I do not like them at all. I prefer buttons. They are more efficient for me. They allow me to do what I want to do in the least amount of time. My advice is to look at both alternatives.

Ann P.

Original message:

Google has been accessible for 5 or so years now. Also touch screen phones and devices are easy to use. And dos and windows are also easy to use. If someone showed you the basics of using touch screens with screen readers you’d be off and running with it within 2 or 3 days at most. I like both touch screen and non touch screen stuff, dos, windows, all of it is fun to use.
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Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 21:55
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative
I have no interest in touchscreen phones. As for Skype Portable, that
is what I was using. I try, as much as possible, to use portable
versions of programs. In any case, I'll try Google Hangouts. I just
didn't think it would be accessible, given their track record. But I
may be pleasantly surprised. *smile*
On 17/12/2017, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com> wrote:
Yikes, I forgot all about Google HangOuts! I suppose it's because I use it
exclusively on my Android toy. I'd join David in suggesting that it be
given a test drive; it might run better in your Windows7 box!


Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado












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Re: Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

Pamela Dominguez
 

They have helped me place orders. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maureen Pranghofer
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

Hi
I've been thinking about the Amazon disability phone line. I used it once
to return a sweater and they were very very helpful. I called them another
time because I was trying to find that same sweater in a larger size and was
having a hard time determining if they had it. I asked if they could find
out. They said they couldn't do the shopping. So if they don't shop as far
as telling you about a product, and don't help make the order as in Dave's
case, I wonder what do they do and are their functions indicated any place?


-----Original Message-----
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 12:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

It is interesting to me how there are so many different experiences for
different users of the Amazon site. Recently I have had good luck shopping
with both Chrome and Fire Fox and Jaws 2018. But some pages are designed
differently from others which can really give us some serious headaches.
This also makes it hard to give anyone advice on their site.
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: Allen West
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

I just got in from work and saw this post. I don't know what browser
you were using, but I find that when I use Chrome, I have a very hard
time with Amazon. IE works with no problem.

Allen

On 12/16/17, Dave <dlh007@centurylink.net> wrote:
Hello,

I will spare all of you the Rant, that I could so Easily Continue.

However, Gene had suggested I try a different Browser. Instead, I used
a different System, and this time used NVDA instead of JAWS 2018.

I was able to complete my order after about 45 minutes of dealing with
the same Pages as before, along with some new ones never seen before,
and a few Pop Up Amazon Ads.


My Word Amazon has a LOT of text and Links on every Page! Most of it
having little to do with what it is you are attempting to accomplish.

But, I survived to perhaps place another order on Amazon in the Future.

Someone suggested I may have had a improperly filled out the Order Form.
I will admit, Filling out Forms has Snagged me in the past, but not the
case this time.

I don't want to blame it on JAWS, but NVDA did read me more than I was
able to read with Jaws.

The first time, I was Struggling on Amazon's site that is to be Screen
Reader Friendly.
The second time, I logged into the site that everyone sees when they go
to Amazon.com.

The Non-Screen Reader Friendly site.

And on the Non-Screen Reader Friendly pages, I was able to fill out what
was needed, choose the right choices and Pay for the order. Go Figure!


So, Gene, Thanks for the Help,

Grumpy Dave

















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Re: Skype Alternative

Pamela Dominguez
 

I don't even do that much in the way of gestures. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

Personally, I must have a real keyboard or I'm not satisfied. I want
to use commands, menus, and/or hotkeys to accomplish my goals. I have
no patience with gestures, with the possible exception of dragging my
finger on the screen until I find what I want and either lifting it or
tapping it. But that's as far as I go, and even then, I could never
use that as a substitute for typing. It would just be something to
try for fun.

On 17/12/2017, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
Google has been accessible for 5 or so years now. Also touch screen phones
and devices are easy to use. And dos and windows are also easy to use. If
someone showed you the basics of using touch screens with screen readers
you’d be off and running with it within 2 or 3 days at most. I like both
touch screen and non touch screen stuff, dos, windows, all of it is fun to
use.


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From: Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 21:55
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

I have no interest in touchscreen phones. As for Skype Portable, that
is what I was using. I try, as much as possible, to use portable
versions of programs. In any case, I'll try Google Hangouts. I just
didn't think it would be accessible, given their track record. But I
may be pleasantly surprised. *smile*

On 17/12/2017, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com> wrote:
Yikes, I forgot all about Google HangOuts! I suppose it's because I use
it
exclusively on my Android toy. I'd join David in suggesting that it be
given a test drive; it might run better in your Windows7 box!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado






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Re: Skype Alternative

Pamela Dominguez
 

You can speak for yourself about touchscreens and stuff, but you can’t speak for everybody.  I hate when people say that, just because they can do something, that everybody else can.  Pam.
 

Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative
 

Google has been accessible for 5 or so years now. Also touch screen phones and devices are easy to use. And dos and windows are also easy to use. If someone showed you the basics of using touch screens with screen readers you’d be off and running with it within 2 or 3 days at most. I like both touch screen and non touch screen stuff, dos, windows, all of it is fun to use.

 

 

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From: Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 21:55
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

 

I have no interest in touchscreen phones.  As for Skype Portable, that

is what I was using.  I try, as much as possible, to use portable

versions of programs.  In any case, I'll try Google Hangouts.  I just

didn't think it would be accessible, given their track record.  But I

may be pleasantly surprised. *smile*

 

On 17/12/2017, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.

<ukekearuaro@...> wrote:

> Yikes, I forgot all about Google HangOuts!  I suppose it's because I use it

> exclusively on my Android toy.  I'd join David in suggesting that it be

> given a test drive; it might run better in your Windows7 box!

>

> Sincerely,

> Olusegun

> Denver, Colorado

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

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Re: Skype Alternative

Angelo Sonnesso
 

He probably sends his files as .rtf, which can be read by just about
anything.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rob Hudson
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 5:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Skype Alternative

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
But I would never submit anything professional with wordperfect today. It's
too outdated. No longer supported.


There's a famous author called George R R Martin who still writes his novels
in wordperfec, I think. Lol. Wonder how he submits his stuff to the editor.
Still in hardcopy?


Re: Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

Gerald Levy
 

The Amazon toll free helpline is strictly for inquiries about orders placed online. So, for instance, if you have not received your order or your merchandise arrives damaged or you were sent the wrong item, then you can call the helpline for assistance getting a return authorization or refund. Like many other companies, Amazon uses an overseas call center to handle customer inquiries. But their customer service agents, while usually very courteous and helpful, cannot place orders or provide product information for specific items.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Maureen Pranghofer
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

Hi
I've been thinking about the Amazon disability phone line. I used it once
to return a sweater and they were very very helpful. I called them another
time because I was trying to find that same sweater in a larger size and was
having a hard time determining if they had it. I asked if they could find
out. They said they couldn't do the shopping. So if they don't shop as far
as telling you about a product, and don't help make the order as in Dave's
case, I wonder what do they do and are their functions indicated any place?


-----Original Message-----
From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 12:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

It is interesting to me how there are so many different experiences for
different users of the Amazon site. Recently I have had good luck shopping
with both Chrome and Fire Fox and Jaws 2018. But some pages are designed
differently from others which can really give us some serious headaches.
This also makes it hard to give anyone advice on their site.
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: Allen West
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Conclusion of Wrestling with the Amazon Web Site

I just got in from work and saw this post. I don't know what browser
you were using, but I find that when I use Chrome, I have a very hard
time with Amazon. IE works with no problem.

Allen

On 12/16/17, Dave <dlh007@centurylink.net> wrote:
Hello,

I will spare all of you the Rant, that I could so Easily Continue.

However, Gene had suggested I try a different Browser. Instead, I used
a different System, and this time used NVDA instead of JAWS 2018.

I was able to complete my order after about 45 minutes of dealing with
the same Pages as before, along with some new ones never seen before,
and a few Pop Up Amazon Ads.


My Word Amazon has a LOT of text and Links on every Page! Most of it
having little to do with what it is you are attempting to accomplish.

But, I survived to perhaps place another order on Amazon in the Future.

Someone suggested I may have had a improperly filled out the Order Form.
I will admit, Filling out Forms has Snagged me in the past, but not the
case this time.

I don't want to blame it on JAWS, but NVDA did read me more than I was
able to read with Jaws.

The first time, I was Struggling on Amazon's site that is to be Screen
Reader Friendly.
The second time, I logged into the site that everyone sees when they go
to Amazon.com.

The Non-Screen Reader Friendly site.

And on the Non-Screen Reader Friendly pages, I was able to fill out what
was needed, choose the right choices and Pay for the order. Go Figure!


So, Gene, Thanks for the Help,

Grumpy Dave








Skype Incoming Ringer Muting JAWS

Debbie April Yuille
 

Hi All

 

I’ve started using the Skype Universal Windows App and have found the JAWS is muted by the incoming ringer when ever I get a call and I’m unable to answer it. I’ve tried going into  my sound settings and telling windows to do nothing under the communications settings but still that hasn’t helped.

 

Any advice is much appreciated.

 

Thanks

Debbie


Re: Skype Alternative

Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@...>
 

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
But I would never submit anything professional with wordperfect today. Its too outdated. No longer supported.


There's a famous author called George R R Martin who still writes his novels in wordperfec, I think. Lol. Wonder how he submits his stuff to the editor. Still in hardcopy?

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