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Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

Gene
 

If you are asking if they can get over air broadcasts, all televisions made now can.  that is the new broadcast standard. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

Hi Gene,


That's what I meant, do the tv's that Gerald mentioned have to have anything extra attached to them to get the digital channels?  I'm guessing yes but not being that familiar with the newer technology I'm not sure.


Troy



On 4/17/2018 1:50 PM, Gene wrote:
That's for the radio for over air reception.  I don't know if you can use it in place of a television with a cable box but I doubt it. 
 
Gerald is talking about actual televisions.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

If you buy one from m electronics they’ll send you a manual that you can read that will explain how to set one up. Pretty easy.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Do the digital tv's that Gerald Levy spoke of work out of the box so to speak, after they're set up that is, or do you have to have a cable connection or something like that?

 

Since Spectrum is requiring a digital box now to watch their service, and since it's a monthly fee I've been trying to find a way to get away from them.  A friend has recommended an external hd antenna, but I don't know anybody who could put one up for me and besides I'd hate to get one and then reception not be good because of trees and because I live near an airport, but it sounds like one of these digital tv's may just work if it's not too difficult to set up and use.

 

Troy

 

 

On 4/17/2018 9:43 AM, Gene wrote:

I don't know the technical term for the kind of external attachment it has.  But the attachment connects to the standard rabbit ears antenna I have and I would expect it to connect to your antenna.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 9:32 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Hi Gene,

 

Thanks for this information. I am wondering: does this unit have an input for an external/roof mount antenna?  I have a roof mount antenna and I would think that the signal strength would be greatly enhanced if it could be used.

 

 

On 4/17/2018 8:43 AM, Gene wrote:

Yes, there is a radio which is able to be used independently from Oehm Electronics.  I have one. 

I don't know if this contact information is current but you can try either of the following ways:

oehmelec@..., or (408) 971-6250.

The radio is a little expensive, but that's what you'd expect from a small business making a small market share product.  but I think its worth the money. 

 

Aside from being able to do scans independently, the radio also has an audible signal strength indicator.  This is important since you can't determine signal strength with digital reception as you can with analog reception, by moving the antenna around and comparing results of sound quality easily.  If the antenna isn't well placed, digital stations may appear to be coming in fine but may unexpectedly have interruptions.  This appears to be more important than might otherwise be thought because, it appears to me, that weather conditions can significantly effect signal strength even of reasonably close stations.  I can't account for the change of signal strength that occurs when I compare on different days.  For a number of days or longer, the signal of a station may be the same and then, it may change significantly.  If the change is for the worse, what was good reception may degrade significantly, with a lot of interruptions.  Then, after many days, the signal may improve again.  But it is important to be able to adjust antenna position to compensate for the degraded reception that may occur if the signal becomes weaker for a time. 

 

Not to mention that different stations may come in better with different antenna positions.  I consider the audible signal indicator to be perhaps the most important adaptive feature of the radio, perhaps more important than the ability to scan independently.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 6:50 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Hi Group,


I think this may have been discussed a long time ago on this list, but I
am not sure.  I  am wondering if there are any good radios that will
receive the audio from the current digital television stations.  I have
an old converter that is (as it turns out) malfunctioning.  Attempts by
me and sighted helpers to scan for new channels does not work.  That is
to say the menu cursor won't change using the remote.


For this reason, i am interested in any radios for the newer digital TV
format that would be similar to the old analog receivers that received
TV channels in the past.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

 

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Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

Troy Burnham
 

Hi Gene,


That's what I meant, do the tv's that Gerald mentioned have to have anything extra attached to them to get the digital channels?  I'm guessing yes but not being that familiar with the newer technology I'm not sure.


Troy



On 4/17/2018 1:50 PM, Gene wrote:
That's for the radio for over air reception.  I don't know if you can use it in place of a television with a cable box but I doubt it. 
 
Gerald is talking about actual televisions.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

If you buy one from m electronics they’ll send you a manual that you can read that will explain how to set one up. Pretty easy.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Do the digital tv's that Gerald Levy spoke of work out of the box so to speak, after they're set up that is, or do you have to have a cable connection or something like that?

 

Since Spectrum is requiring a digital box now to watch their service, and since it's a monthly fee I've been trying to find a way to get away from them.  A friend has recommended an external hd antenna, but I don't know anybody who could put one up for me and besides I'd hate to get one and then reception not be good because of trees and because I live near an airport, but it sounds like one of these digital tv's may just work if it's not too difficult to set up and use.

 

Troy

 

 

On 4/17/2018 9:43 AM, Gene wrote:

I don't know the technical term for the kind of external attachment it has.  But the attachment connects to the standard rabbit ears antenna I have and I would expect it to connect to your antenna.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 9:32 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Hi Gene,

 

Thanks for this information. I am wondering: does this unit have an input for an external/roof mount antenna?  I have a roof mount antenna and I would think that the signal strength would be greatly enhanced if it could be used.

 

 

On 4/17/2018 8:43 AM, Gene wrote:

Yes, there is a radio which is able to be used independently from Oehm Electronics.  I have one. 

I don't know if this contact information is current but you can try either of the following ways:

oehmelec@..., or (408) 971-6250.

The radio is a little expensive, but that's what you'd expect from a small business making a small market share product.  but I think its worth the money. 

 

Aside from being able to do scans independently, the radio also has an audible signal strength indicator.  This is important since you can't determine signal strength with digital reception as you can with analog reception, by moving the antenna around and comparing results of sound quality easily.  If the antenna isn't well placed, digital stations may appear to be coming in fine but may unexpectedly have interruptions.  This appears to be more important than might otherwise be thought because, it appears to me, that weather conditions can significantly effect signal strength even of reasonably close stations.  I can't account for the change of signal strength that occurs when I compare on different days.  For a number of days or longer, the signal of a station may be the same and then, it may change significantly.  If the change is for the worse, what was good reception may degrade significantly, with a lot of interruptions.  Then, after many days, the signal may improve again.  But it is important to be able to adjust antenna position to compensate for the degraded reception that may occur if the signal becomes weaker for a time. 

 

Not to mention that different stations may come in better with different antenna positions.  I consider the audible signal indicator to be perhaps the most important adaptive feature of the radio, perhaps more important than the ability to scan independently.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 6:50 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Hi Group,


I think this may have been discussed a long time ago on this list, but I
am not sure.  I  am wondering if there are any good radios that will
receive the audio from the current digital television stations.  I have
an old converter that is (as it turns out) malfunctioning.  Attempts by
me and sighted helpers to scan for new channels does not work.  That is
to say the menu cursor won't change using the remote.


For this reason, i am interested in any radios for the newer digital TV
format that would be similar to the old analog receivers that received
TV channels in the past.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

 

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Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

Terry Olandese
 

You can’t use a cable box with the digital radio table top box.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

That's for the radio for over air reception.  I don't know if you can use it in place of a television with a cable box but I doubt it. 

 

Gerald is talking about actual televisions.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 1:14 PM

Subject: Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

If you buy one from m electronics they’ll send you a manual that you can read that will explain how to set one up. Pretty easy.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Do the digital tv's that Gerald Levy spoke of work out of the box so to speak, after they're set up that is, or do you have to have a cable connection or something like that?

 

Since Spectrum is requiring a digital box now to watch their service, and since it's a monthly fee I've been trying to find a way to get away from them.  A friend has recommended an external hd antenna, but I don't know anybody who could put one up for me and besides I'd hate to get one and then reception not be good because of trees and because I live near an airport, but it sounds like one of these digital tv's may just work if it's not too difficult to set up and use.

 

Troy

 

 

On 4/17/2018 9:43 AM, Gene wrote:

I don't know the technical term for the kind of external attachment it has.  But the attachment connects to the standard rabbit ears antenna I have and I would expect it to connect to your antenna.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 9:32 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Hi Gene,

 

Thanks for this information. I am wondering: does this unit have an input for an external/roof mount antenna?  I have a roof mount antenna and I would think that the signal strength would be greatly enhanced if it could be used.

 

 

On 4/17/2018 8:43 AM, Gene wrote:

Yes, there is a radio which is able to be used independently from Oehm Electronics.  I have one. 

I don't know if this contact information is current but you can try either of the following ways:

oehmelec@..., or (408) 971-6250.

The radio is a little expensive, but that's what you'd expect from a small business making a small market share product.  but I think its worth the money. 

 

Aside from being able to do scans independently, the radio also has an audible signal strength indicator.  This is important since you can't determine signal strength with digital reception as you can with analog reception, by moving the antenna around and comparing results of sound quality easily.  If the antenna isn't well placed, digital stations may appear to be coming in fine but may unexpectedly have interruptions.  This appears to be more important than might otherwise be thought because, it appears to me, that weather conditions can significantly effect signal strength even of reasonably close stations.  I can't account for the change of signal strength that occurs when I compare on different days.  For a number of days or longer, the signal of a station may be the same and then, it may change significantly.  If the change is for the worse, what was good reception may degrade significantly, with a lot of interruptions.  Then, after many days, the signal may improve again.  But it is important to be able to adjust antenna position to compensate for the degraded reception that may occur if the signal becomes weaker for a time. 

 

Not to mention that different stations may come in better with different antenna positions.  I consider the audible signal indicator to be perhaps the most important adaptive feature of the radio, perhaps more important than the ability to scan independently.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 6:50 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Hi Group,


I think this may have been discussed a long time ago on this list, but I
am not sure.  I  am wondering if there are any good radios that will
receive the audio from the current digital television stations.  I have
an old converter that is (as it turns out) malfunctioning.  Attempts by
me and sighted helpers to scan for new channels does not work.  That is
to say the menu cursor won't change using the remote.


For this reason, i am interested in any radios for the newer digital TV
format that would be similar to the old analog receivers that received
TV channels in the past.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

Gene
 

That's for the radio for over air reception.  I don't know if you can use it in place of a television with a cable box but I doubt it. 
 
Gerald is talking about actual televisions.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

If you buy one from m electronics they’ll send you a manual that you can read that will explain how to set one up. Pretty easy.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Do the digital tv's that Gerald Levy spoke of work out of the box so to speak, after they're set up that is, or do you have to have a cable connection or something like that?

 

Since Spectrum is requiring a digital box now to watch their service, and since it's a monthly fee I've been trying to find a way to get away from them.  A friend has recommended an external hd antenna, but I don't know anybody who could put one up for me and besides I'd hate to get one and then reception not be good because of trees and because I live near an airport, but it sounds like one of these digital tv's may just work if it's not too difficult to set up and use.

 

Troy

 

 

On 4/17/2018 9:43 AM, Gene wrote:

I don't know the technical term for the kind of external attachment it has.  But the attachment connects to the standard rabbit ears antenna I have and I would expect it to connect to your antenna.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 9:32 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Hi Gene,

 

Thanks for this information. I am wondering: does this unit have an input for an external/roof mount antenna?  I have a roof mount antenna and I would think that the signal strength would be greatly enhanced if it could be used.

 

 

On 4/17/2018 8:43 AM, Gene wrote:

Yes, there is a radio which is able to be used independently from Oehm Electronics.  I have one. 

I don't know if this contact information is current but you can try either of the following ways:

oehmelec@..., or (408) 971-6250.

The radio is a little expensive, but that's what you'd expect from a small business making a small market share product.  but I think its worth the money. 

 

Aside from being able to do scans independently, the radio also has an audible signal strength indicator.  This is important since you can't determine signal strength with digital reception as you can with analog reception, by moving the antenna around and comparing results of sound quality easily.  If the antenna isn't well placed, digital stations may appear to be coming in fine but may unexpectedly have interruptions.  This appears to be more important than might otherwise be thought because, it appears to me, that weather conditions can significantly effect signal strength even of reasonably close stations.  I can't account for the change of signal strength that occurs when I compare on different days.  For a number of days or longer, the signal of a station may be the same and then, it may change significantly.  If the change is for the worse, what was good reception may degrade significantly, with a lot of interruptions.  Then, after many days, the signal may improve again.  But it is important to be able to adjust antenna position to compensate for the degraded reception that may occur if the signal becomes weaker for a time. 

 

Not to mention that different stations may come in better with different antenna positions.  I consider the audible signal indicator to be perhaps the most important adaptive feature of the radio, perhaps more important than the ability to scan independently.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 6:50 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Hi Group,


I think this may have been discussed a long time ago on this list, but I
am not sure.  I  am wondering if there are any good radios that will
receive the audio from the current digital television stations.  I have
an old converter that is (as it turns out) malfunctioning.  Attempts by
me and sighted helpers to scan for new channels does not work.  That is
to say the menu cursor won't change using the remote.


For this reason, i am interested in any radios for the newer digital TV
format that would be similar to the old analog receivers that received
TV channels in the past.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

 

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Re: Problem With Directions for Me Site

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Gerald,
 
Wasn't Hunky Dory a cousin of Punky Brewster?!  LOL  LOL 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 
Okay, problem fixed.  Apparently, I was accessing an old version of the Directions for Me home page from my IE Favorites list.  So I accessed Directions for Me directly from the Google results page, and lo and behold, it works fine.  I was able to get results for a number of different products and did not encounter the previously described error message.  So I deleted the old Directions for Me entry on my Favorites list, and replaced it with this apparently updated version, and everything is hunky dory again.  BTW, Who was hunky dory anyway? 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 
 
Well, maybe this web site only works with IOS.  I have contactedHorizons for the Blind, the owner of the Directions for Me site, but have thus far received no response, which leads me to believe that this web site may have  been abandoned. The fact that another list member also reported receiving an error message when trying to search for a product on Directions for Me using IE 11,means that I am not the only one encountering this problem.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Donna
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 
I just tried doing a search on directionsforme.org just to confirm for myself that indeed the website still works for me.  And yes the website still works. I went as far as searching for a brand name “Green Giant” & opening to the specific product page “Peas & Carrots” to get heating & nutritional info. So not sure why the website works for some & not others. I’m using Safari with the latest IOS 11.x.x I’m not sure if the “experimental Features” in Settings, Safari, Advanced, Experimental Features the default settings has anything to do with me to be able to use the website & others can not.
 
 
 
Donna
 
 

I just searched using Firefox 52x ESR with JAVA scripts enabled and got proper results.  I don't know what accounts for different results.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: george b
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 

I just tried it using I e 11 the latest version and get the error code

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 17, 2018 5:18
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

I hadn't done a search before, I just went to the site.  I searched for the word chicken and had no problems.  I also searched for
Gorton's fish sticks and had no problems.  I have JAVA scripts turned off but I doubt that is relevant.  If others report problems, I'll do a search with JAVA scripts on and see if that is, indeed, a factor. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

 

Well, using either IE 11 or Firefox 52 ESR, this is what I get when I type “chicken” into the search field on the Directions for Me home page:

 

Whoops, looks like something went wrong.

1/1ErrorException in SearchController.php line 78:Invalid argument supplied for foreach()

1.    in SearchController.php line 78

2.    at HandleExceptions->handleError('2', 'Invalid argument supplied for foreach()', '/home/httpd/vhosts/directionsforme.org/dev/laravel/app/Http/Controllers/Search/SearchController.php', '78', array('request' => object(Request), 'search_string' => 'chicken', 'match_mode' => 'SPH_MATCH_ALL', 'search_record' => object(Search), 'page' => '1', 'items_per_page' => '20', 'offset' => '0', 'sphinx' => object(SphinxSearch), 'matching_elements' => false, 'paginated_matching_elements' => false, 'item_weight_scores_by_id' => array())) in SearchController.php line 78

3.    at SearchController->showResultsPage(object(Request))

4.    at call_user_func_array(array(object(SearchController), 'showResultsPage'), array(object(Request))) in Controller.php line 256

5.    at Controller->callAction('showResultsPage', array(object(Request))) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 164

6.    at ControllerDispatcher->call(object(SearchController), object(Route), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 112

7.    at ControllerDispatcher->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

8.    at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

9.    at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

10.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

11.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 114

12.  at ControllerDispatcher->callWithinStack(object(SearchController), object(Route), object(Request), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 69

13.  at ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(object(Route), object(Request), 'App\Http\Controllers\Search\SearchController', 'showResultsPage') in Route.php line 201

14.  at Route->runWithCustomDispatcher(object(Request)) in Route.php line 134

15.  at Route->run(object(Request)) in Router.php line 704

16.  at Router->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

17.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

18.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

19.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

20.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Router.php line 706

21.  at Router->runRouteWithinStack(object(Route), object(Request)) in Router.php line 671

22.  at Router->dispatchToRoute(object(Request)) in Router.php line 631

23.  at Router->dispatch(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 236

24.  at Kernel->Illuminate\Foundation\Http\{closure}(object(Request))

25.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

26.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in VerifyCsrfToken.php line 50

27.  at VerifyCsrfToken->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

28.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(VerifyCsrfToken), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

29.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in ShareErrorsFromSession.php line 54

30.  at ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

31.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(ShareErrorsFromSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

32.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in StartSession.php line 62

33.  at StartSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

34.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(StartSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

35.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php line 37

36.  at AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

37.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(AddQueuedCookiesToResponse), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

38.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in EncryptCookies.php line 59

39.  at EncryptCookies->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

40.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(EncryptCookies), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

41.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in CheckForMaintenanceMode.php line 42

42.  at CheckForMaintenanceMode->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

43.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(CheckForMaintenanceMode), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

44.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

45.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

46.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Kernel.php line 122

47.  at Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 87

48.  at Kernel->handle(object(Request)) in index

From: Donna

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

Hi,

 

I just went to the directionsforme.org website on my iPhone using Safari & had no trouble when I entered the word chicken into the search field. I was presented with over 500 products.

 

Donna

 

 

For the past week or so, the Directions for Me web site does  not seem to be working.  No matter what I enter in the search field, I get some kind of weird error page.  Has anyone else noticed problems with Directions for Me?  Is it possible that this very useful site for finding accessible cooking directions for thousands of products has been shut down or permenantly disabled?  Thanks for any feedback.

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 


Re: Blackberry.

Pamela Dominguez
 

I don’t know, because it has been said on the list that the keyboard is only to insert text, not to use for dialing phone numbers.  If you find out otherwise, then good.  But if it is only to insert text, then you are stuck with a touch screen for everything else.  I hope I’m wrong.  Pam.
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:13 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Blackberry.
 

I checked on Google, then watched a video – Keyone, hands down, as far as I am concern, looks pretty good. Then, the catch to it would be a manual – check that after lunch.

 

 


Re: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

Terry Olandese
 

If you buy one from m electronics they’ll send you a manual that you can read that will explain how to set one up. Pretty easy.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Do the digital tv's that Gerald Levy spoke of work out of the box so to speak, after they're set up that is, or do you have to have a cable connection or something like that?

 

Since Spectrum is requiring a digital box now to watch their service, and since it's a monthly fee I've been trying to find a way to get away from them.  A friend has recommended an external hd antenna, but I don't know anybody who could put one up for me and besides I'd hate to get one and then reception not be good because of trees and because I live near an airport, but it sounds like one of these digital tv's may just work if it's not too difficult to set up and use.

 

Troy

 

 

On 4/17/2018 9:43 AM, Gene wrote:

I don't know the technical term for the kind of external attachment it has.  But the attachment connects to the standard rabbit ears antenna I have and I would expect it to connect to your antenna.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 9:32 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Hi Gene,

 

Thanks for this information. I am wondering: does this unit have an input for an external/roof mount antenna?  I have a roof mount antenna and I would think that the signal strength would be greatly enhanced if it could be used.

 

 

On 4/17/2018 8:43 AM, Gene wrote:

Yes, there is a radio which is able to be used independently from Oehm Electronics.  I have one. 

I don't know if this contact information is current but you can try either of the following ways:

oehmelec@..., or (408) 971-6250.

The radio is a little expensive, but that's what you'd expect from a small business making a small market share product.  but I think its worth the money. 

 

Aside from being able to do scans independently, the radio also has an audible signal strength indicator.  This is important since you can't determine signal strength with digital reception as you can with analog reception, by moving the antenna around and comparing results of sound quality easily.  If the antenna isn't well placed, digital stations may appear to be coming in fine but may unexpectedly have interruptions.  This appears to be more important than might otherwise be thought because, it appears to me, that weather conditions can significantly effect signal strength even of reasonably close stations.  I can't account for the change of signal strength that occurs when I compare on different days.  For a number of days or longer, the signal of a station may be the same and then, it may change significantly.  If the change is for the worse, what was good reception may degrade significantly, with a lot of interruptions.  Then, after many days, the signal may improve again.  But it is important to be able to adjust antenna position to compensate for the degraded reception that may occur if the signal becomes weaker for a time. 

 

Not to mention that different stations may come in better with different antenna positions.  I consider the audible signal indicator to be perhaps the most important adaptive feature of the radio, perhaps more important than the ability to scan independently.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 6:50 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

 

Hi Group,


I think this may have been discussed a long time ago on this list, but I
am not sure.  I  am wondering if there are any good radios that will
receive the audio from the current digital television stations.  I have
an old converter that is (as it turns out) malfunctioning.  Attempts by
me and sighted helpers to scan for new channels does not work.  That is
to say the menu cursor won't change using the remote.


For this reason, i am interested in any radios for the newer digital TV
format that would be similar to the old analog receivers that received
TV channels in the past.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


digital tv's, was Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

Troy Burnham
 

Do the digital tv's that Gerald Levy spoke of work out of the box so to speak, after they're set up that is, or do you have to have a cable connection or something like that?


Since Spectrum is requiring a digital box now to watch their service, and since it's a monthly fee I've been trying to find a way to get away from them.  A friend has recommended an external hd antenna, but I don't know anybody who could put one up for me and besides I'd hate to get one and then reception not be good because of trees and because I live near an airport, but it sounds like one of these digital tv's may just work if it's not too difficult to set up and use.


Troy



On 4/17/2018 9:43 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know the technical term for the kind of external attachment it has.  But the attachment connects to the standard rabbit ears antenna I have and I would expect it to connect to your antenna.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

Hi Gene,


Thanks for this information. I am wondering: does this unit have an input for an external/roof mount antenna?  I have a roof mount antenna and I would think that the signal strength would be greatly enhanced if it could be used.



On 4/17/2018 8:43 AM, Gene wrote:
Yes, there is a radio which is able to be used independently from Oehm Electronics.  I have one. 
I don't know if this contact information is current but you can try either of the following ways:
oehmelec@..., or (408) 971-6250.
The radio is a little expensive, but that's what you'd expect from a small business making a small market share product.  but I think its worth the money. 
 
Aside from being able to do scans independently, the radio also has an audible signal strength indicator.  This is important since you can't determine signal strength with digital reception as you can with analog reception, by moving the antenna around and comparing results of sound quality easily.  If the antenna isn't well placed, digital stations may appear to be coming in fine but may unexpectedly have interruptions.  This appears to be more important than might otherwise be thought because, it appears to me, that weather conditions can significantly effect signal strength even of reasonably close stations.  I can't account for the change of signal strength that occurs when I compare on different days.  For a number of days or longer, the signal of a station may be the same and then, it may change significantly.  If the change is for the worse, what was good reception may degrade significantly, with a lot of interruptions.  Then, after many days, the signal may improve again.  But it is important to be able to adjust antenna position to compensate for the degraded reception that may occur if the signal becomes weaker for a time. 
 
Not to mention that different stations may come in better with different antenna positions.  I consider the audible signal indicator to be perhaps the most important adaptive feature of the radio, perhaps more important than the ability to scan independently.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 6:50 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] TV Radios With Digital TV Audio

Hi Group,


I think this may have been discussed a long time ago on this list, but I
am not sure.  I  am wondering if there are any good radios that will
receive the audio from the current digital television stations.  I have
an old converter that is (as it turns out) malfunctioning.  Attempts by
me and sighted helpers to scan for new channels does not work.  That is
to say the menu cursor won't change using the remote.


For this reason, i am interested in any radios for the newer digital TV
format that would be similar to the old analog receivers that received
TV channels in the past.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Problem With Directions for Me Site

"Marvin Atkins"
 

Gerald,
 
Using IE 11 with Windows 10, JAWS 2018, I just went to the Directions for me website and typed in Stove Top Stuffing in the search field and it came up with 26 results. I got no error message.
 
Marvin
 

From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 
 
Well, maybe this web site only works with IOS.  I have contactedHorizons for the Blind, the owner of the Directions for Me site, but have thus far received no response, which leads me to believe that this web site may have  been abandoned. The fact that another list member also reported receiving an error message when trying to search for a product on Directions for Me using IE 11,means that I am not the only one encountering this problem.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Donna
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 
I just tried doing a search on directionsforme.org just to confirm for myself that indeed the website still works for me.  And yes the website still works. I went as far as searching for a brand name “Green Giant” & opening to the specific product page “Peas & Carrots” to get heating & nutritional info. So not sure why the website works for some & not others. I’m using Safari with the latest IOS 11.x.x I’m not sure if the “experimental Features” in Settings, Safari, Advanced, Experimental Features the default settings has anything to do with me to be able to use the website & others can not.
 
 
 
Donna
 
 

I just searched using Firefox 52x ESR with JAVA scripts enabled and got proper results.  I don't know what accounts for different results.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: george b
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 

I just tried it using I e 11 the latest version and get the error code

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 17, 2018 5:18
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

I hadn't done a search before, I just went to the site.  I searched for the word chicken and had no problems.  I also searched for
Gorton's fish sticks and had no problems.  I have JAVA scripts turned off but I doubt that is relevant.  If others report problems, I'll do a search with JAVA scripts on and see if that is, indeed, a factor. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:37 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

 

Well, using either IE 11 or Firefox 52 ESR, this is what I get when I type “chicken” into the search field on the Directions for Me home page:

 

Whoops, looks like something went wrong.

1/1ErrorException in SearchController.php line 78:Invalid argument supplied for foreach()

1.    in SearchController.php line 78

2.    at HandleExceptions->handleError('2', 'Invalid argument supplied for foreach()', '/home/httpd/vhosts/directionsforme.org/dev/laravel/app/Http/Controllers/Search/SearchController.php', '78', array('request' => object(Request), 'search_string' => 'chicken', 'match_mode' => 'SPH_MATCH_ALL', 'search_record' => object(Search), 'page' => '1', 'items_per_page' => '20', 'offset' => '0', 'sphinx' => object(SphinxSearch), 'matching_elements' => false, 'paginated_matching_elements' => false, 'item_weight_scores_by_id' => array())) in SearchController.php line 78

3.    at SearchController->showResultsPage(object(Request))

4.    at call_user_func_array(array(object(SearchController), 'showResultsPage'), array(object(Request))) in Controller.php line 256

5.    at Controller->callAction('showResultsPage', array(object(Request))) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 164

6.    at ControllerDispatcher->call(object(SearchController), object(Route), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 112

7.    at ControllerDispatcher->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

8.    at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

9.    at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

10.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

11.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 114

12.  at ControllerDispatcher->callWithinStack(object(SearchController), object(Route), object(Request), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 69

13.  at ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(object(Route), object(Request), 'App\Http\Controllers\Search\SearchController', 'showResultsPage') in Route.php line 201

14.  at Route->runWithCustomDispatcher(object(Request)) in Route.php line 134

15.  at Route->run(object(Request)) in Router.php line 704

16.  at Router->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

17.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

18.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

19.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

20.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Router.php line 706

21.  at Router->runRouteWithinStack(object(Route), object(Request)) in Router.php line 671

22.  at Router->dispatchToRoute(object(Request)) in Router.php line 631

23.  at Router->dispatch(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 236

24.  at Kernel->Illuminate\Foundation\Http\{closure}(object(Request))

25.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

26.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in VerifyCsrfToken.php line 50

27.  at VerifyCsrfToken->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

28.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(VerifyCsrfToken), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

29.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in ShareErrorsFromSession.php line 54

30.  at ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

31.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(ShareErrorsFromSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

32.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in StartSession.php line 62

33.  at StartSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

34.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(StartSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

35.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php line 37

36.  at AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

37.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(AddQueuedCookiesToResponse), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

38.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in EncryptCookies.php line 59

39.  at EncryptCookies->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

40.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(EncryptCookies), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

41.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in CheckForMaintenanceMode.php line 42

42.  at CheckForMaintenanceMode->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

43.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(CheckForMaintenanceMode), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

44.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

45.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

46.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Kernel.php line 122

47.  at Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 87

48.  at Kernel->handle(object(Request)) in index

From: Donna

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:20 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

Hi,

 

I just went to the directionsforme.org website on my iPhone using Safari & had no trouble when I entered the word chicken into the search field. I was presented with over 500 products.

 

Donna

 

 

For the past week or so, the Directions for Me web site does  not seem to be working.  No matter what I enter in the search field, I get some kind of weird error page.  Has anyone else noticed problems with Directions for Me?  Is it possible that this very useful site for finding accessible cooking directions for thousands of products has been shut down or permenantly disabled?  Thanks for any feedback.

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 


Blackberry.

Carolyn Arnold
 

I checked on Google, then watched a video – Keyone, hands down, as far as I am concern, looks pretty good. Then, the catch to it would be a manual – check that after lunch.

 

 


Re: Problem With Directions for Me Site

Gene
 

You made the same gloomy worst case speculation before when the site was temporarily down awhile ago.  Why do you insist on making such worst case speculations with no meaningful evidence? 
 
Also, are you using an ad blocker or anything that might somehow be causing the site to behave not as expected?  What antimalware programs are you using?  I am beginning to suspect that the browser used has nothing to do with the problem.  Security software or an ad blocker or something else may be causing it.  I don't use Internet Explorer except very rarely and I haven't uppgraded it.  But the site still works with IE8.  I've tested now with Firefox, the current ESR version, and with IE8 and the site behaved as expected. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

I said that I tried it with Firefox and it works. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 
Well, maybe this web site only works with IOS.  I have contactedHorizons for the Blind, the owner of the Directions for Me site, but have thus far received no response, which leads me to believe that this web site may have  been abandoned. The fact that another list member also reported receiving an error message when trying to search for a product on Directions for Me using IE 11,means that I am not the only one encountering this problem.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Donna
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 
I just tried doing a search on directionsforme.org just to confirm for myself that indeed the website still works for me.  And yes the website still works. I went as far as searching for a brand name “Green Giant” & opening to the specific product page “Peas & Carrots” to get heating & nutritional info. So not sure why the website works for some & not others. I’m using Safari with the latest IOS 11.x.x I’m not sure if the “experimental Features” in Settings, Safari, Advanced, Experimental Features the default settings has anything to do with me to be able to use the website & others can not.
 
 
 
Donna
 
 

I just searched using Firefox 52x ESR with JAVA scripts enabled and got proper results.  I don't know what accounts for different results.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: george b
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 

I just tried it using I e 11 the latest version and get the error code

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 17, 2018 5:18
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

I hadn't done a search before, I just went to the site.  I searched for the word chicken and had no problems.  I also searched for
Gorton's fish sticks and had no problems.  I have JAVA scripts turned off but I doubt that is relevant.  If others report problems, I'll do a search with JAVA scripts on and see if that is, indeed, a factor. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

 

Well, using either IE 11 or Firefox 52 ESR, this is what I get when I type “chicken” into the search field on the Directions for Me home page:

 

Whoops, looks like something went wrong.

1/1ErrorException in SearchController.php line 78:Invalid argument supplied for foreach()

1.    in SearchController.php line 78

2.    at HandleExceptions->handleError('2', 'Invalid argument supplied for foreach()', '/home/httpd/vhosts/directionsforme.org/dev/laravel/app/Http/Controllers/Search/SearchController.php', '78', array('request' => object(Request), 'search_string' => 'chicken', 'match_mode' => 'SPH_MATCH_ALL', 'search_record' => object(Search), 'page' => '1', 'items_per_page' => '20', 'offset' => '0', 'sphinx' => object(SphinxSearch), 'matching_elements' => false, 'paginated_matching_elements' => false, 'item_weight_scores_by_id' => array())) in SearchController.php line 78

3.    at SearchController->showResultsPage(object(Request))

4.    at call_user_func_array(array(object(SearchController), 'showResultsPage'), array(object(Request))) in Controller.php line 256

5.    at Controller->callAction('showResultsPage', array(object(Request))) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 164

6.    at ControllerDispatcher->call(object(SearchController), object(Route), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 112

7.    at ControllerDispatcher->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

8.    at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

9.    at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

10.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

11.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 114

12.  at ControllerDispatcher->callWithinStack(object(SearchController), object(Route), object(Request), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 69

13.  at ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(object(Route), object(Request), 'App\Http\Controllers\Search\SearchController', 'showResultsPage') in Route.php line 201

14.  at Route->runWithCustomDispatcher(object(Request)) in Route.php line 134

15.  at Route->run(object(Request)) in Router.php line 704

16.  at Router->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

17.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

18.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

19.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

20.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Router.php line 706

21.  at Router->runRouteWithinStack(object(Route), object(Request)) in Router.php line 671

22.  at Router->dispatchToRoute(object(Request)) in Router.php line 631

23.  at Router->dispatch(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 236

24.  at Kernel->Illuminate\Foundation\Http\{closure}(object(Request))

25.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

26.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in VerifyCsrfToken.php line 50

27.  at VerifyCsrfToken->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

28.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(VerifyCsrfToken), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

29.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in ShareErrorsFromSession.php line 54

30.  at ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

31.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(ShareErrorsFromSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

32.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in StartSession.php line 62

33.  at StartSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

34.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(StartSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

35.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php line 37

36.  at AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

37.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(AddQueuedCookiesToResponse), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

38.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in EncryptCookies.php line 59

39.  at EncryptCookies->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

40.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(EncryptCookies), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

41.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in CheckForMaintenanceMode.php line 42

42.  at CheckForMaintenanceMode->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

43.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(CheckForMaintenanceMode), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

44.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

45.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

46.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Kernel.php line 122

47.  at Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 87

48.  at Kernel->handle(object(Request)) in index

From: Donna

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

Hi,

 

I just went to the directionsforme.org website on my iPhone using Safari & had no trouble when I entered the word chicken into the search field. I was presented with over 500 products.

 

Donna

 

 

For the past week or so, the Directions for Me web site does  not seem to be working.  No matter what I enter in the search field, I get some kind of weird error page.  Has anyone else noticed problems with Directions for Me?  Is it possible that this very useful site for finding accessible cooking directions for thousands of products has been shut down or permenantly disabled?  Thanks for any feedback.

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 


Re: Problem With Directions for Me Site

Gerald Levy
 

 
Okay, problem fixed.  Apparently, I was accessing an old version of the Directions for Me home page from my IE Favorites list.  So I accessed Directions for Me directly from the Google results page, and lo and behold, it works fine.  I was able to get results for a number of different products and did not encounter the previously described error message.  So I deleted the old Directions for Me entry on my Favorites list, and replaced it with this apparently updated version, and everything is hunky dory again.  BTW, Who was hunky dory anyway? 
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 
 
Well, maybe this web site only works with IOS.  I have contactedHorizons for the Blind, the owner of the Directions for Me site, but have thus far received no response, which leads me to believe that this web site may have  been abandoned. The fact that another list member also reported receiving an error message when trying to search for a product on Directions for Me using IE 11,means that I am not the only one encountering this problem.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Donna
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 
I just tried doing a search on directionsforme.org just to confirm for myself that indeed the website still works for me.  And yes the website still works. I went as far as searching for a brand name “Green Giant” & opening to the specific product page “Peas & Carrots” to get heating & nutritional info. So not sure why the website works for some & not others. I’m using Safari with the latest IOS 11.x.x I’m not sure if the “experimental Features” in Settings, Safari, Advanced, Experimental Features the default settings has anything to do with me to be able to use the website & others can not.
 
 
 
Donna
 
 

I just searched using Firefox 52x ESR with JAVA scripts enabled and got proper results.  I don't know what accounts for different results.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: george b
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 

I just tried it using I e 11 the latest version and get the error code

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 17, 2018 5:18
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

I hadn't done a search before, I just went to the site.  I searched for the word chicken and had no problems.  I also searched for
Gorton's fish sticks and had no problems.  I have JAVA scripts turned off but I doubt that is relevant.  If others report problems, I'll do a search with JAVA scripts on and see if that is, indeed, a factor. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

 

Well, using either IE 11 or Firefox 52 ESR, this is what I get when I type “chicken” into the search field on the Directions for Me home page:

 

Whoops, looks like something went wrong.

1/1ErrorException in SearchController.php line 78:Invalid argument supplied for foreach()

1.    in SearchController.php line 78

2.    at HandleExceptions->handleError('2', 'Invalid argument supplied for foreach()', '/home/httpd/vhosts/directionsforme.org/dev/laravel/app/Http/Controllers/Search/SearchController.php', '78', array('request' => object(Request), 'search_string' => 'chicken', 'match_mode' => 'SPH_MATCH_ALL', 'search_record' => object(Search), 'page' => '1', 'items_per_page' => '20', 'offset' => '0', 'sphinx' => object(SphinxSearch), 'matching_elements' => false, 'paginated_matching_elements' => false, 'item_weight_scores_by_id' => array())) in SearchController.php line 78

3.    at SearchController->showResultsPage(object(Request))

4.    at call_user_func_array(array(object(SearchController), 'showResultsPage'), array(object(Request))) in Controller.php line 256

5.    at Controller->callAction('showResultsPage', array(object(Request))) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 164

6.    at ControllerDispatcher->call(object(SearchController), object(Route), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 112

7.    at ControllerDispatcher->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

8.    at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

9.    at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

10.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

11.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 114

12.  at ControllerDispatcher->callWithinStack(object(SearchController), object(Route), object(Request), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 69

13.  at ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(object(Route), object(Request), 'App\Http\Controllers\Search\SearchController', 'showResultsPage') in Route.php line 201

14.  at Route->runWithCustomDispatcher(object(Request)) in Route.php line 134

15.  at Route->run(object(Request)) in Router.php line 704

16.  at Router->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

17.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

18.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

19.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

20.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Router.php line 706

21.  at Router->runRouteWithinStack(object(Route), object(Request)) in Router.php line 671

22.  at Router->dispatchToRoute(object(Request)) in Router.php line 631

23.  at Router->dispatch(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 236

24.  at Kernel->Illuminate\Foundation\Http\{closure}(object(Request))

25.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

26.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in VerifyCsrfToken.php line 50

27.  at VerifyCsrfToken->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

28.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(VerifyCsrfToken), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

29.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in ShareErrorsFromSession.php line 54

30.  at ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

31.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(ShareErrorsFromSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

32.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in StartSession.php line 62

33.  at StartSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

34.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(StartSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

35.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php line 37

36.  at AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

37.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(AddQueuedCookiesToResponse), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

38.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in EncryptCookies.php line 59

39.  at EncryptCookies->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

40.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(EncryptCookies), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

41.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in CheckForMaintenanceMode.php line 42

42.  at CheckForMaintenanceMode->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

43.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(CheckForMaintenanceMode), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

44.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

45.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

46.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Kernel.php line 122

47.  at Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 87

48.  at Kernel->handle(object(Request)) in index

From: Donna

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

Hi,

 

I just went to the directionsforme.org website on my iPhone using Safari & had no trouble when I entered the word chicken into the search field. I was presented with over 500 products.

 

Donna

 

 

For the past week or so, the Directions for Me web site does  not seem to be working.  No matter what I enter in the search field, I get some kind of weird error page.  Has anyone else noticed problems with Directions for Me?  Is it possible that this very useful site for finding accessible cooking directions for thousands of products has been shut down or permenantly disabled?  Thanks for any feedback.

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 


Re: sharing a flip phone for the blind running Android.

Carolyn Arnold
 

Definitely advice well taken. Does either have a phone dial
with buttons or just the keyboard for texts and other
entries?

I am thinking maybe in November or December, when my carrier
offers deals, plus there will probably be an upgrade for
Android, that is when I will get one.

I believe that once I knew, but what is the difference in
the Priv and the KeyOne?

I have to have an SD card, I believe with my carrier,
Consumer Cellular, which runs on GSM.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] sharing a flip phone for the blind
running Android.

Sis Carolyn, since you're considering an Android phone,
please take a good look at Blackberry Priv or Blackberry
KeyOne. These are in the mainstream and they'll give you
better specs than any of these others supposedly designed
for the blind.

Used and new Privs are available at amazon.com starting out
at $199.99, a brand-new one is pegged at $249.99.

The KeyOne is still coming in at about $498 also from
amazon.com.

Both smartphones are factory unlocked, good for AT&T and
TMobile or any other service provider on the GSM network.
Better internal storage space and, if memory serves, I think
they do have SD card slots as well though that may not be
too important to you. The battery in these phones has an
mAh of over 3,000; they'll walk more miles than any of the
so-called nonsense out there specifically designed for the
blind. If a smartphone in the mainstream has better specs
and gives you more mileage for the bucks paid, why settle
for junk just because it has been developed specifically
with BLIND accessibility in mind? Yes, they'll run Talkback
ok.

One more thing you'd love about these phones: They have
REAL buttons, alongside the trusted touchscreen which you
can ignore. Yes, it'll take some getting used to, but I
don't believe for a second that this will be a problem for
you.

Anyway, I just thought I'd share these. Perhaps you could
visit a phone store near you to see if they have the Priv in
stock so you can play with it for a bit before grabbing one.
It's a great phone in the mainstream with, as noted here,
much, much better specs than the junk from Capsys or Ray L5.
And whilst at it, please grab three: Santa and I are on
vacation now, but you never know, we could JUST SNEAK back
in through your chimney and grab our presents! All the
best, God bless.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: sharing a flip phone for the blind running Android.

Carolyn Arnold
 

I don't want to be the first to buy any phone like that or the Kapsys. When I hear about someone having one and how it functions, then I could be led to getting one, probably more likely the Kapsys than the Toogee. It could be that we all feel that way, which certainly would be a distribution problem for either phone.

One thing that I liked about the Eyes-Free list is that there were videos and posts with information about the success people were having with their phones.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 9:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] sharing a flip phone for the blind running Android.

It would seem that you're paying for the extra 'bells and whistles' that (they think) blind (or some blind/with other disability) customers need. I don't think it's worth that money, either; but hey, if there's a market for it then that is captive!? A small, niche market drives costs up.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 1:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] sharing a flip phone for the blind running Android.

I guess I just missed that. I do not think the phone is worth that.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] sharing a flip phone for the blind running Android.

It's $645.00, according to their Website, the link to which is included in the message.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] sharing a flip phone for the blind running Android.

Robert do you, or does anyone on the list have one of these? How much are they? Where do you get them? Will they run on GSM?

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] sharing a flip phone for the blind running Android.

-- Robert Kingett, journalist. View my website below.




view my website here





I have not looked at what version the Android OS is but this is, as of now, the only flip Android phone I could find that runs in the USA. if anybody has anything to add, share links or model numbers. The link is below.

http://project-ray.com/products/ray-l5-flip-phone-for-blind/


Re: Problem With Directions for Me Site

Gene
 

I said that I tried it with Firefox and it works. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 
Well, maybe this web site only works with IOS.  I have contactedHorizons for the Blind, the owner of the Directions for Me site, but have thus far received no response, which leads me to believe that this web site may have  been abandoned. The fact that another list member also reported receiving an error message when trying to search for a product on Directions for Me using IE 11,means that I am not the only one encountering this problem.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Donna
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 
I just tried doing a search on directionsforme.org just to confirm for myself that indeed the website still works for me.  And yes the website still works. I went as far as searching for a brand name “Green Giant” & opening to the specific product page “Peas & Carrots” to get heating & nutritional info. So not sure why the website works for some & not others. I’m using Safari with the latest IOS 11.x.x I’m not sure if the “experimental Features” in Settings, Safari, Advanced, Experimental Features the default settings has anything to do with me to be able to use the website & others can not.
 
 
 
Donna
 
 

I just searched using Firefox 52x ESR with JAVA scripts enabled and got proper results.  I don't know what accounts for different results.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: george b
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 

I just tried it using I e 11 the latest version and get the error code

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 17, 2018 5:18
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

I hadn't done a search before, I just went to the site.  I searched for the word chicken and had no problems.  I also searched for
Gorton's fish sticks and had no problems.  I have JAVA scripts turned off but I doubt that is relevant.  If others report problems, I'll do a search with JAVA scripts on and see if that is, indeed, a factor. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

 

Well, using either IE 11 or Firefox 52 ESR, this is what I get when I type “chicken” into the search field on the Directions for Me home page:

 

Whoops, looks like something went wrong.

1/1ErrorException in SearchController.php line 78:Invalid argument supplied for foreach()

1.    in SearchController.php line 78

2.    at HandleExceptions->handleError('2', 'Invalid argument supplied for foreach()', '/home/httpd/vhosts/directionsforme.org/dev/laravel/app/Http/Controllers/Search/SearchController.php', '78', array('request' => object(Request), 'search_string' => 'chicken', 'match_mode' => 'SPH_MATCH_ALL', 'search_record' => object(Search), 'page' => '1', 'items_per_page' => '20', 'offset' => '0', 'sphinx' => object(SphinxSearch), 'matching_elements' => false, 'paginated_matching_elements' => false, 'item_weight_scores_by_id' => array())) in SearchController.php line 78

3.    at SearchController->showResultsPage(object(Request))

4.    at call_user_func_array(array(object(SearchController), 'showResultsPage'), array(object(Request))) in Controller.php line 256

5.    at Controller->callAction('showResultsPage', array(object(Request))) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 164

6.    at ControllerDispatcher->call(object(SearchController), object(Route), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 112

7.    at ControllerDispatcher->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

8.    at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

9.    at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

10.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

11.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 114

12.  at ControllerDispatcher->callWithinStack(object(SearchController), object(Route), object(Request), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 69

13.  at ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(object(Route), object(Request), 'App\Http\Controllers\Search\SearchController', 'showResultsPage') in Route.php line 201

14.  at Route->runWithCustomDispatcher(object(Request)) in Route.php line 134

15.  at Route->run(object(Request)) in Router.php line 704

16.  at Router->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

17.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

18.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

19.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

20.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Router.php line 706

21.  at Router->runRouteWithinStack(object(Route), object(Request)) in Router.php line 671

22.  at Router->dispatchToRoute(object(Request)) in Router.php line 631

23.  at Router->dispatch(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 236

24.  at Kernel->Illuminate\Foundation\Http\{closure}(object(Request))

25.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

26.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in VerifyCsrfToken.php line 50

27.  at VerifyCsrfToken->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

28.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(VerifyCsrfToken), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

29.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in ShareErrorsFromSession.php line 54

30.  at ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

31.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(ShareErrorsFromSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

32.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in StartSession.php line 62

33.  at StartSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

34.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(StartSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

35.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php line 37

36.  at AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

37.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(AddQueuedCookiesToResponse), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

38.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in EncryptCookies.php line 59

39.  at EncryptCookies->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

40.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(EncryptCookies), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

41.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in CheckForMaintenanceMode.php line 42

42.  at CheckForMaintenanceMode->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

43.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(CheckForMaintenanceMode), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

44.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

45.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

46.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Kernel.php line 122

47.  at Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 87

48.  at Kernel->handle(object(Request)) in index

From: Donna

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

Hi,

 

I just went to the directionsforme.org website on my iPhone using Safari & had no trouble when I entered the word chicken into the search field. I was presented with over 500 products.

 

Donna

 

 

For the past week or so, the Directions for Me web site does  not seem to be working.  No matter what I enter in the search field, I get some kind of weird error page.  Has anyone else noticed problems with Directions for Me?  Is it possible that this very useful site for finding accessible cooking directions for thousands of products has been shut down or permenantly disabled?  Thanks for any feedback.

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 


Re: Problem With Directions for Me Site

Gerald Levy
 

 
Well, maybe this web site only works with IOS.  I have contactedHorizons for the Blind, the owner of the Directions for Me site, but have thus far received no response, which leads me to believe that this web site may have  been abandoned. The fact that another list member also reported receiving an error message when trying to search for a product on Directions for Me using IE 11,means that I am not the only one encountering this problem.
 
Gerald
 
 
 

From: Donna
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 
I just tried doing a search on directionsforme.org just to confirm for myself that indeed the website still works for me.  And yes the website still works. I went as far as searching for a brand name “Green Giant” & opening to the specific product page “Peas & Carrots” to get heating & nutritional info. So not sure why the website works for some & not others. I’m using Safari with the latest IOS 11.x.x I’m not sure if the “experimental Features” in Settings, Safari, Advanced, Experimental Features the default settings has anything to do with me to be able to use the website & others can not.
 
 
 
Donna
 
 

I just searched using Firefox 52x ESR with JAVA scripts enabled and got proper results.  I don't know what accounts for different results.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: george b
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site
 

I just tried it using I e 11 the latest version and get the error code

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 17, 2018 5:18
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

I hadn't done a search before, I just went to the site.  I searched for the word chicken and had no problems.  I also searched for
Gorton's fish sticks and had no problems.  I have JAVA scripts turned off but I doubt that is relevant.  If others report problems, I'll do a search with JAVA scripts on and see if that is, indeed, a factor. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

 

Well, using either IE 11 or Firefox 52 ESR, this is what I get when I type “chicken” into the search field on the Directions for Me home page:

 

Whoops, looks like something went wrong.

1/1ErrorException in SearchController.php line 78:Invalid argument supplied for foreach()

1.    in SearchController.php line 78

2.    at HandleExceptions->handleError('2', 'Invalid argument supplied for foreach()', '/home/httpd/vhosts/directionsforme.org/dev/laravel/app/Http/Controllers/Search/SearchController.php', '78', array('request' => object(Request), 'search_string' => 'chicken', 'match_mode' => 'SPH_MATCH_ALL', 'search_record' => object(Search), 'page' => '1', 'items_per_page' => '20', 'offset' => '0', 'sphinx' => object(SphinxSearch), 'matching_elements' => false, 'paginated_matching_elements' => false, 'item_weight_scores_by_id' => array())) in SearchController.php line 78

3.    at SearchController->showResultsPage(object(Request))

4.    at call_user_func_array(array(object(SearchController), 'showResultsPage'), array(object(Request))) in Controller.php line 256

5.    at Controller->callAction('showResultsPage', array(object(Request))) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 164

6.    at ControllerDispatcher->call(object(SearchController), object(Route), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 112

7.    at ControllerDispatcher->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

8.    at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

9.    at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

10.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

11.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 114

12.  at ControllerDispatcher->callWithinStack(object(SearchController), object(Route), object(Request), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 69

13.  at ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(object(Route), object(Request), 'App\Http\Controllers\Search\SearchController', 'showResultsPage') in Route.php line 201

14.  at Route->runWithCustomDispatcher(object(Request)) in Route.php line 134

15.  at Route->run(object(Request)) in Router.php line 704

16.  at Router->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

17.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

18.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

19.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

20.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Router.php line 706

21.  at Router->runRouteWithinStack(object(Route), object(Request)) in Router.php line 671

22.  at Router->dispatchToRoute(object(Request)) in Router.php line 631

23.  at Router->dispatch(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 236

24.  at Kernel->Illuminate\Foundation\Http\{closure}(object(Request))

25.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

26.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in VerifyCsrfToken.php line 50

27.  at VerifyCsrfToken->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

28.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(VerifyCsrfToken), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

29.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in ShareErrorsFromSession.php line 54

30.  at ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

31.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(ShareErrorsFromSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

32.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in StartSession.php line 62

33.  at StartSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

34.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(StartSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

35.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php line 37

36.  at AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

37.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(AddQueuedCookiesToResponse), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

38.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in EncryptCookies.php line 59

39.  at EncryptCookies->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

40.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(EncryptCookies), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

41.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in CheckForMaintenanceMode.php line 42

42.  at CheckForMaintenanceMode->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

43.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(CheckForMaintenanceMode), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

44.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

45.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

46.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Kernel.php line 122

47.  at Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 87

48.  at Kernel->handle(object(Request)) in index

From: Donna

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

Hi,

 

I just went to the directionsforme.org website on my iPhone using Safari & had no trouble when I entered the word chicken into the search field. I was presented with over 500 products.

 

Donna

 

 

For the past week or so, the Directions for Me web site does  not seem to be working.  No matter what I enter in the search field, I get some kind of weird error page.  Has anyone else noticed problems with Directions for Me?  Is it possible that this very useful site for finding accessible cooking directions for thousands of products has been shut down or permenantly disabled?  Thanks for any feedback.

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 


Re: Problem With Directions for Me Site

Donna
 

I just tried doing a search on directionsforme.org just to confirm for myself that indeed the website still works for me.  And yes the website still works. I went as far as searching for a brand name “Green Giant” & opening to the specific product page “Peas & Carrots” to get heating & nutritional info. So not sure why the website works for some & not others. I’m using Safari with the latest IOS 11.x.x I’m not sure if the “experimental Features” in Settings, Safari, Advanced, Experimental Features the default settings has anything to do with me to be able to use the website & others can not. 

 

Donna



I just searched using Firefox 52x ESR with JAVA scripts enabled and got proper results.  I don't know what accounts for different results. 
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: george b
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

I just tried it using I e 11 the latest version and get the error code

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 17, 2018 5:18
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

I hadn't done a search before, I just went to the site.  I searched for the word chicken and had no problems.  I also searched for
Gorton's fish sticks and had no problems.  I have JAVA scripts turned off but I doubt that is relevant.  If others report problems, I'll do a search with JAVA scripts on and see if that is, indeed, a factor. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

 

Well, using either IE 11 or Firefox 52 ESR, this is what I get when I type “chicken” into the search field on the Directions for Me home page:

 

Whoops, looks like something went wrong.

1/1ErrorException in SearchController.php line 78:Invalid argument supplied for foreach()

1.    in SearchController.php line 78

2.    at HandleExceptions->handleError('2', 'Invalid argument supplied for foreach()', '/home/httpd/vhosts/directionsforme.org/dev/laravel/app/Http/Controllers/Search/SearchController.php', '78', array('request' => object(Request), 'search_string' => 'chicken', 'match_mode' => 'SPH_MATCH_ALL', 'search_record' => object(Search), 'page' => '1', 'items_per_page' => '20', 'offset' => '0', 'sphinx' => object(SphinxSearch), 'matching_elements' => false, 'paginated_matching_elements' => false, 'item_weight_scores_by_id' => array())) in SearchController.php line 78

3.    at SearchController->showResultsPage(object(Request))

4.    at call_user_func_array(array(object(SearchController), 'showResultsPage'), array(object(Request))) in Controller.php line 256

5.    at Controller->callAction('showResultsPage', array(object(Request))) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 164

6.    at ControllerDispatcher->call(object(SearchController), object(Route), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 112

7.    at ControllerDispatcher->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

8.    at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

9.    at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

10.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

11.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in ControllerDispatcher.php line 114

12.  at ControllerDispatcher->callWithinStack(object(SearchController), object(Route), object(Request), 'showResultsPage') in ControllerDispatcher.php line 69

13.  at ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(object(Route), object(Request), 'App\Http\Controllers\Search\SearchController', 'showResultsPage') in Route.php line 201

14.  at Route->runWithCustomDispatcher(object(Request)) in Route.php line 134

15.  at Route->run(object(Request)) in Router.php line 704

16.  at Router->Illuminate\Routing\{closure}(object(Request))

17.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

18.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

19.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

20.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Router.php line 706

21.  at Router->runRouteWithinStack(object(Route), object(Request)) in Router.php line 671

22.  at Router->dispatchToRoute(object(Request)) in Router.php line 631

23.  at Router->dispatch(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 236

24.  at Kernel->Illuminate\Foundation\Http\{closure}(object(Request))

25.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 139

26.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in VerifyCsrfToken.php line 50

27.  at VerifyCsrfToken->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

28.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(VerifyCsrfToken), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

29.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in ShareErrorsFromSession.php line 54

30.  at ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

31.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(ShareErrorsFromSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

32.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in StartSession.php line 62

33.  at StartSession->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

34.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(StartSession), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

35.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php line 37

36.  at AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

37.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(AddQueuedCookiesToResponse), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

38.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in EncryptCookies.php line 59

39.  at EncryptCookies->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

40.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(EncryptCookies), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

41.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request)) in CheckForMaintenanceMode.php line 42

42.  at CheckForMaintenanceMode->handle(object(Request), object(Closure))

43.  at call_user_func_array(array(object(CheckForMaintenanceMode), 'handle'), array(object(Request), object(Closure))) in Pipeline.php line 124

44.  at Pipeline->Illuminate\Pipeline\{closure}(object(Request))

45.  at call_user_func(object(Closure), object(Request)) in Pipeline.php line 103

46.  at Pipeline->then(object(Closure)) in Kernel.php line 122

47.  at Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(object(Request)) in Kernel.php line 87

48.  at Kernel->handle(object(Request)) in index

From: Donna

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem With Directions for Me Site

 

Hi,

 

I just went to the directionsforme.org website on my iPhone using Safari & had no trouble when I entered the word chicken into the search field. I was presented with over 500 products.

 

Donna

 

 

For the past week or so, the Directions for Me web site does  not seem to be working.  No matter what I enter in the search field, I get some kind of weird error page.  Has anyone else noticed problems with Directions for Me?  Is it possible that this very useful site for finding accessible cooking directions for thousands of products has been shut down or permenantly disabled?  Thanks for any feedback.

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 


Re: voice note

Jujube
 

The only difference between a BrailleNote and a VoiceNote is that a BrailleNote has a braille display whereas a VoiceNote doesn't. Obviously, you can't turn speech off on a VoiceNote due to the lack of a braille display.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Greico" <pianotuner3@optimum.net
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 07:05:14 -0400
Subject: [TechTalk] voice note

젨� Could someone please tell me what a voice note is.� I know it has a
braille keyboard and it comes with an s d slot.� Can I transfer files
too and from the computer?� Please respond.

can I transfer files too and from the computer.



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Re: DMR Radios?

Billy Inglis
 

hi again Steve, I'm on that particular list, and not much Information there either, Billy

On 17/04/2018 14:38, Steve Matzura wrote:
Sorry to say, I don't know much about DMR and access, but the GD77S is supposedly the most accessible model. There was supposed to have been one from Yaesu or Kenwood that was supposed to have come out a year ago, the price was about ten times that of the GD77S, and I never heard about whether it actually came out or not. I have a friend across town who knows more about these things than I, I'll see what he knows and report back. But the best way to find out is really to get onto the blind hams list, and even over there there isn't much talk yet about these things.
On 4/17/2018 3:52 AM, Billy Inglis wrote:
hi Steve, thanks for the prompt reply.
Are there any other DMR Radios you know about with better accessibility features or is the GD77S the only workable radio?,Billy

On 17/04/2018 01:35, Steve Matzura wrote:
A codeplug is nothing more than a fancy name for a data file containing frequencies, splits, talkgroup identification, etc., that you create on a computer and send to the radio via USB.


The GD77S software accessibility leaves a lot to be desired, but with a little dinking around with your screenreader of choice, it's workable.
On 4/15/2018 1:40 PM, Billy Inglis wrote:
hi IC, have seen you on the blind hams list.
I have been trying to learn about DMR Radio, and have asked some questions on the list, but unfortunetly I misesed the recent post regarding theRadioddity GD-77s.
I have been thinking of buying this radio, but not sure if as a blind person, i would be able to access the radio.
I realise it all depends on the software available, and the screen reader you use to work with the software.
I'm new to DMR and would like to learn more. I know very little. Question for instance. What is a codeplug and how would you use it. I take it is a piece of software.
It would be great if you could help/advise, Billy

On 15/04/2018 17:58, Iaen Cordell wrote:
G’day Jim, subscribe to blind-hams:

blind-hams@groups.io

Subscribe:

blind-hams+subscribe@groups.io


cheers

IC


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Wohlgamuth
Sent: Monday, 16 April 2018 1:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] DMR Radios?


     Hi There! First of all my apologies for the off topic message. But I would lie to ask Steve what the subscribe info is for the blind hams list? You can respond to me privately if you wish to wohlggie@gmail.com <mailto:wohlggie@gmail.com>   Thanks!

<KF8LT><Jim>.


On 15-Apr-18 09:51, Steve Matzura wrote:

There are many people on the blind hams list who are into this. I took a look at a relatively new radio, the GD77S (S for Speech) software to find out about its accessibility, and I learned two things. One, once or if you can get it to work with your particular screenreader, it can be used successfully; two, the same screenreader on different machines has been shown to produce different levels of access.


The programs for these things are written by people with not the first clue about accessibility. However, once you get your codeplug into the radio, they they appear to work well.


On 4/15/2018 4:32 AM, Billy Inglis wrote:



hi guys, Anyone on list using one of these DMR radios?. Looking for buying advice and accessible software for the DMR Radios?, Billy















Re: Speaking of VIP 3000 - How do I turn off service message?

Peter Spitz
 

Got it turned off, thanks for everyone's help.

On 4/16/18, Kay Malmquist <kay.malmquist@gmail.com> wrote:
The no and it is for about ten seconds.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@gmail.com

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Hansan" <donald801@cox.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Speaking of VIP 3000 - How do I turn off service
message?


Hold the yes or no (I forget which) button for about 30 seconds.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Peter Spitz
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 9:59 AM
To: main <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Speaking of VIP 3000 - How do I turn off service
message?

Whenever I check the temperature on my VIP 3000 I get a message that my
system is due for maintenance. I already had the annual check up done in
November but I cannot figure out how to turn the message off.
Thanks for any help.

Peter











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