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Re: UEB Braille code and restaurant menu inaccessibility

David Mehler
 

Hi,

Yah it was quite dismayed. I believe that this is wrong, I mean older
Braille readers, who have learned Braille as a kid, and have read
Braille that way for 20/30/40+ years the switch forces a new learning
or you can't use what was previously accessible and available. I would
have said something, but then I didn't think the manager would get the
new UEB vs I'll call it the proper Braille.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 6/4/18, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@gmail.com> wrote:
It is amazing that this restaurant has updated their menus so quickly.

73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Mehler
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:23 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] UEB Braille code and restaurant menu
inaccessibility

Hi,

Looked like a mess of symbols.

Dave.


On 6/4/18, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@gmail.com> wrote:
There are some differences, but they are certainly still readable.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David Mehler
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:07 AM
To: techtalk <techtalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] UEB Braille code and restaurant menu
inaccessibility

Hello,

Last week I went with a group to a restaurant which I had been to
before and like going there due to their Braille menu I can choose my
own food without having to have someone read me the menu.

I discovered frankly to my consternation that they had updated their
menu and this new version used the new (well new to me) UEB Braille code
format.
I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

The purpose of this email is twofold: first, to express my
consternation at this turn which has made reading menu accessibility
go down? Second, to generate discussion, opinions, and any resolutions to
this issue.

I'd prefer not to have to unlearn x years of Braille reading.

Thanks.
Dave.














Re: UEB Braille code and restaurant menu inaccessibility

Angelo Sonnesso
 

It is amazing that this restaurant has updated their menus so quickly.

73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:23 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] UEB Braille code and restaurant menu inaccessibility

Hi,

Looked like a mess of symbols.

Dave.


On 6/4/18, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@gmail.com> wrote:
There are some differences, but they are certainly still readable.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David Mehler
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:07 AM
To: techtalk <techtalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] UEB Braille code and restaurant menu
inaccessibility

Hello,

Last week I went with a group to a restaurant which I had been to
before and like going there due to their Braille menu I can choose my
own food without having to have someone read me the menu.

I discovered frankly to my consternation that they had updated their
menu and this new version used the new (well new to me) UEB Braille code format.
I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

The purpose of this email is twofold: first, to express my
consternation at this turn which has made reading menu accessibility
go down? Second, to generate discussion, opinions, and any resolutions to this issue.

I'd prefer not to have to unlearn x years of Braille reading.

Thanks.
Dave.








Re: UEB Braille code and restaurant menu inaccessibility

Gene
 

I don't think you will have to.  I believe there some specific things you will have to learn, but that aside from these, Braille is still basically Braille. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 9:07 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] UEB Braille code and restaurant menu inaccessibility

Hello,

Last week I went with a group to a restaurant which I had been to
before and like going there due to their Braille menu I can choose my
own food without having to have someone read me the menu.

I discovered frankly to my consternation that they had updated their
menu and this new version used the new (well new to me) UEB Braille
code format. I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

The purpose of this email is twofold: first, to express my
consternation at this turn which has made reading menu accessibility
go down? Second, to generate discussion, opinions, and any resolutions
to this issue.

I'd prefer not to have to unlearn x years of Braille reading.

Thanks.
Dave.



Re: current version of Chrome?

Gene
 

It doesn't matter if it is the most current version, though I would think it is.  Chrome automatically updates itself when it is running and the user can't stop this behavior.  So if you install and run an older version of Chrome, it will automatically update.  I don't hink it will notify you that it did, but it did.  You can check to see if the program needs updating and it's a good idea to do so off and on because at times, some problem may keep the program from updating and you may need to correct it, but in general, the program automatically updates in the background.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 9:02 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] current version of Chrome?

Hi all,


I want to install chrome today so I went to ninite and the version there
is 67.0.3396.62, is that the most current version and is that the
version I should get?


Thanks.


Troy






Re: UEB Braille code and restaurant menu inaccessibility

David Mehler
 

Hi,

Looked like a mess of symbols.

Dave.

On 6/4/18, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@gmail.com> wrote:
There are some differences, but they are certainly still readable.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Mehler
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:07 AM
To: techtalk <techtalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] UEB Braille code and restaurant menu inaccessibility

Hello,

Last week I went with a group to a restaurant which I had been to before and
like going there due to their Braille menu I can choose my own food without
having to have someone read me the menu.

I discovered frankly to my consternation that they had updated their menu
and this new version used the new (well new to me) UEB Braille code format.
I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

The purpose of this email is twofold: first, to express my consternation at
this turn which has made reading menu accessibility go down? Second, to
generate discussion, opinions, and any resolutions to this issue.

I'd prefer not to have to unlearn x years of Braille reading.

Thanks.
Dave.








Re: UEB Braille code and restaurant menu inaccessibility

Angelo Sonnesso
 

There are some differences, but they are certainly still readable.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:07 AM
To: techtalk <techtalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] UEB Braille code and restaurant menu inaccessibility

Hello,

Last week I went with a group to a restaurant which I had been to before and like going there due to their Braille menu I can choose my own food without having to have someone read me the menu.

I discovered frankly to my consternation that they had updated their menu and this new version used the new (well new to me) UEB Braille code format. I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

The purpose of this email is twofold: first, to express my consternation at this turn which has made reading menu accessibility go down? Second, to generate discussion, opinions, and any resolutions to this issue.

I'd prefer not to have to unlearn x years of Braille reading.

Thanks.
Dave.


UEB Braille code and restaurant menu inaccessibility

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Last week I went with a group to a restaurant which I had been to
before and like going there due to their Braille menu I can choose my
own food without having to have someone read me the menu.

I discovered frankly to my consternation that they had updated their
menu and this new version used the new (well new to me) UEB Braille
code format. I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

The purpose of this email is twofold: first, to express my
consternation at this turn which has made reading menu accessibility
go down? Second, to generate discussion, opinions, and any resolutions
to this issue.

I'd prefer not to have to unlearn x years of Braille reading.

Thanks.
Dave.


current version of Chrome?

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,


I want to install chrome today so I went to ninite and the version there is 67.0.3396.62, is that the most current version and is that the version I should get?


Thanks.


Troy


Re: All Amazon's Different Dots and Echoes!

-
 

Be aware the connect only works with an existing landline service.

On Sun, 3 Jun 2018, janet gross wrote:

Hi Everyone,
As I have been wanting to purchase an Echo as well as some of you, I have been doing a little research on the Dots-Echoes, and it can be confusing! Smile! I had no idea there were so many different Dots-Echoes until I started researching them. After reading all of this, I have to admit I might be a little more confused, but I have a better understanding of the Amazon Dots-Echoes. I copied and pasted some information below for those who might be interested in buying one of these. I would definitely like to have the Echo connect to use as my home phone. That is just one of the ones I would like. Lots of luck deciding which one you might want!

Janet

Amazon Echo vs Echo Plus vs Echo Tap vs Echo Dot vs Echo Show vs Echo Spot: What's the
difference?
| 7 March 2018
Amazon/Pocket-lint
Amazon's Echo lineup is insane at this point, spanning smart speakers, video devices and new Alexa
Gadgets.
The Echo family of products has grown rapidly over the last couple of years, with a flurry of new
devices announced last September to add to the portfolio.
There's an Echo for everyone!

Here are all the Alexa-enabled Amazon devices compared to help you work out which one best suits
your needs.

list of 3 items
* Buy Amazon Echo (UK),
Buy Amazon Echo (US)
* Buy Amazon Echo Spot (UK),
Buy Amazon Echo Spot (US)

Amazon Echo smart speakers

There are several variants of the Echo smart speaker available.
Amazon Echo (second generation)
list of 7 items
* Availability: Available in the US (
Amazon US order page)
/ Available in the UK (
Amazon UK order page)
* Price: $99.99 / ??89.99
* Dimensions: 148.5 x 88 x 88mm, 820g
* Connectivity: Dual-band Wi-Fi supports 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 and 5GHz)and Bluetooth (A2DP)
* Power: Power adaptor/cable (5.9ft)
* Audio: 2.5-inch woofer and 0.6-inch tweeter
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)

Pocket-lint
Amazon Echo Original Vs Echo Tap Vs Echo Dot Vs Echo Look Vs Echo Show Vs Echo 2017 Vs
Echo Plus Vs Echo Spot Whats The Difference image 3

The original Amazon Echo is dead. Long live the
Amazon Echo.
That's right. Amazon has retired the original Echo model and replaced it with a new connected Alexa
speaker that's shorter, and comes with a range of different
finishes for a nicer, more contemporary look. It still offers the same Alexa power as it did before,
serving as the centre of the universe while coming
in at a much cheaper price.

It's just better designed to fit into your kitchen, thanks to those new shells. It's very much realigning
itself as a competitor to the
Google Home.
While it offers all the skills of Alexa and offers Bluetooth and the rest of the Echo experience, it
doesn't sound as good as the original model, nor as
good as the Echo Plus. This is the model to get if you want to get connected cheaply, but accepting
that music isn't top of your list.

It's available to buy now in both the
US
and the
UK.

* Amazon Echo 2 review: Cheaper price, cheaper experience

Amazon Echo Plus
list of 7 items
* Availability: Available in the US (
See on Amazon US)
/ Available in the UK (
See on Amazon UK)
* Price: $139.99 / ??149.99
* Dimensions: 235 x 84 x 84mm, 954g
* Connectivity: Dual-band Wi-Fi supports 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 and 5GHz)and Bluetooth (A2DP)
* Power: Power adaptor/cable (5.9ft)
* Audio: 2.5-inch woofer and 0.8-inch tweeter
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)

Pocket-lint
Amazon Echo Original Vs Echo Tap Vs Echo Dot Vs Echo Look Vs Echo Show Vs Echo 2017 Vs
Echo Plus Vs Echo Spot Whats The Difference image 4

Amazon
Echo Plus
is now top of the Echo tree. It looks just like the original, canister-shaped Echo. It's very much the
same design as the original speaker, but offering
better sound quality, while also offering better quality sound than the smaller Echo 2. Echo Plus has
all the Alexa skills you know and love - so it will
do the same things as the other Echos - but it's a much more capable smart home controller, thanks
to the inclusion of Zigbee.

Zigbee is a smart home standard used by many devices - such as Philips Hue lights - which allows
the Echo Plus to setup and control devices without the
need for a separate hub or app specific to that device. You just plug in your Hue lights (for example),
tell the Echo Plus to search for them and it will
name them and over voice controls. It's very simple.

The Amazon Echo Plus is our favourite of the Echo range. It is available in the
US,
UK
and other regions now.

list of 1 items
* Amazon Echo Plus initial review: The smart home choice for Alexa
list end

Amazon Tap
list of 7 items
* Availability: Available in the US (
See on Amazon US)
/ Not available in the UK
* Price: $129.99
* Dimensions: 59 x 66 x 66 mm, 470g
* Connectivity: Bluetooth and supports 802.11b, 802.11g, or 802.11n Wi-Fi
* Power: Relies on a charging cradle (9 hours of playback)
* Audio: 360-degree sound (dual 1.5-inch drivers and dual passive radiators)
* Alexa: Yes (Not always-listening by default; Must touch mic button to access Alexa or enable
hands-free option in Settings)
Amazon Tap is a 6.2-inch-tall cylinder speaker with a 7-piece microphone array and full access to
Alexa, making it a smaller, more portable, version of
the original Echo. Unlike the Echo though, the Amazon Tap is wireless and must use the included
cradle to charge but it can do all the same tricks as Echo
as long as you are connected to Wi-Fi.

Amazon says the Tap will stream up to 9 hours of audio on a full charge, or last up to 3 weeks in
standby mode. The Tap isn't an always-on by default like
the Echo is. To wake it, you need to press the mic on the front or you can enable the hands-free option
in the Settings section of the Alexa app to wake
Alexa without having to tap the Tap, though this will drain battery.

* Doubling up on Alexa: How to use multiple Amazon Echo and Dots

Amazon Echo Dot
list of 7 items
* Availability: Available in the US (
See on Amazon US)
/ Available in the UK (
See on Amazon UK)
* Price: $49 / ??49
* Dimensions: 38 x 84 x 84mm, 250g
* Connectivity: Bluetooth and dual-band, dual-antenna Wi-Fi (MIMO)
* Power: Plugs into a wall outlet
* Audio: 0.6-inch tweeter
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)
list end
Pocket-lint
Amazon Echo Original Vs Echo Tap Vs Echo Dot Vs Echo Look Vs Echo Show Vs Echo 2017 Vs
Echo Plus Vs Echo Spot Whats The Difference image 5

Echo Dot
is 1.6-inch-tall cylinder with one tiny speaker. It's basically just the top section of the Amazon Echo
and half the price, though equally as smart. It
supports always-on Alexa, connects to the cloud to stream music, controls your smart home devices,
and it offers all the same features as Echo.

The main difference between Dot and Echo is that the speaker is gone. The idea is you'll hook Dot up
to your own audio setup (via 3.5mm or Bluetooth) so
you can use Alexa with your existing speakers. That tiny speaker won't output much audio; it's only
really for Alexa voice feedback, which, again, requires
Wi-Fi. Echo Dot is a great way to add smart skills to another device or a different room.

* Amazon Echo Dot review: The tiny personal assistant with big personality

Amazon video devices
Aside from the devices that kick-started the connected speaker trend, Amazon has also moved into
the realm of video too, with several devices that will
give you a screen to take the Alexa experience into the visual realm.

Amazon Echo Show
list of 8 items
* Availability: Available in the US (
See on Amazon US),
Available in the UK (
See on Amazon UK)
* Price: $229.99 / ??199.99
* Dimensions: 187 x 187 x 90mm, 1170g
* Connectivity: Dual-band Wi-Fi supports 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 and 5 GHz)
* Power: Power adapter/cable (6 foot)
* Camera: 5-megapixel sensor
* Audio: 8-microphone array, dual 2-inch stereo speakers
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)

Pocket-lint
Amazon Echo Original Vs Echo Tap Vs Echo Dot Vs Echo Look Vs Echo Show Vs Echo 2017 Vs
Echo Plus Vs Echo Spot Whats The Difference image 6

Amazon's Echo Show is a touchscreen device with built-in Alexa and it can do everything the regular,
voice-only Echo can do (like setting timers and playing
music), but it has a built-in display to offer a new level of interaction. It's meant to show you more
information about your Alexa queries, such as display
a full weather report, steps in a recipe and it can even serve as a digital photo frame, fetching your
pictures stored on Prime Photos or display lyrics
when playing songs from Amazon Music, with bigger and better speakers to do so.

You can connect Echo Show to your Wi-Fi-enabled security cameras in order to check your video
feeds and you'll also be able to place and receive calls
- both video and voice. A feature called
Drop In
allows you to specify which friends and family can make a call at any time, with the receiver offering a
10-second timeframe to reject a Drop In call
or go into audio-only mode.

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* Amazon Echo Show review: Alexa steps into a touchscreen future
list end

Amazon Echo Spot
list of 7 items
* Availability:
Available in the US
and
now the UK
* Price: ??119.99, $129.99
* Dimensions: 32 x 84 x 84mm, 163g
* Connectivity: Dual-band Wi-Fi supports 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 and 5GHz)and Bluetooth (A2DP)
* Power: Power adaptor/cable (5.9ft)
* Audio: Built-in speaker, 3.5mm stereo audio output
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)
list end
Pocket-lint
Amazon Echo Original Vs Echo Tap Vs Echo Dot Vs Echo Look Vs Echo Show Vs Echo 2017 Vs
Echo Plus Vs Echo Spot Whats The Difference image 7

The
Amazon Echo Spot
is what you'd get if you cross the Echo Show with the Echo Dot. It's a compact Echo to sit beside your
bed for alarms. It has a small 2.5-inch screen,
which can be used for basic tasks and skills, like music, but it does a lot more. Like the Echo Show it
can be used to make video calls, with a front camera.

It basically offers the same functions as the Echo Show, but in a much smaller form factor. It can also
connect to your Bluetooth speakers, or via line-out.
The Amazon Echo Spot is now available in both the US and UK.

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* Amazon Echo Spot initial review: Smart alarm clock or so much more?

Alexa Gadgets

Amazon officially announced Alexa Gadgets in 2017 a range of innovative devices that take Alexa
into a new realm. We've included the Echo Look in this
selection, because of its unique set of features.

Amazon Echo Look
list of 8 items
* Availability: Available in the US - invite only (
See on Amazon US)
* Price: $199.99
* Dimensions: N/A
* Connectivity: Dual-band, dual antenna (MIMO. 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz)
* Power: Power adapter (21W) with 7.9 ft. cable
* Camera: 5-megapixel sensor
* Audio: Built-in microphone array, built-in speaker
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)

Amazon
Amazon Echo Original Vs Echo Tap Vs Echo Dot Vs Echo Look Vs Echo Show Vs Echo 2017 Vs
Echo Plus Vs Echo Spot Whats The Difference image 8

Echo Show is a $199 Wi-Fi camera that offers full Alexa functionality plus hands-free photo and
video. It is pitched as a cloud-connected fashion consultant
that allows you to snap pictures of yourself in various outfits. Alexa's software will automatically blur
the background in each image to make your outfit
pop, and then it uses machine learning guided by "fashion experts" to serve up recommendations
about what you should wear.

It will work as any other Alexa-enabled device, allowing you to access music, traffic timers, weather,
and a vast library of "skills." The device is wall-mountable,
too, and includes a 5-megapixel sensor, built-in microphone array, and small built-in speaker. It also
has LED lights (used for the flash). No other specs
have been announced yet and there is no date set for when the Echo Look will start shipping to
customers.

Currently, it is available in the US only via an invite-only scheme.

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* Amazon Echo Look is the personal assistant that replaces your mirror

Amazon Echo Connect
list of 7 items
* Availability: Available in the US (
See on Amazon US),
Not yet available in the UK
* Price: $34.99
* Dimensions: 130 x 90 x 29.5mm, 126.9g
* Connectivity: Dual-band Wi-Fi supports 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (2.4 and 5 GHz)
* Included cables: Power adapter, Micro-USB cable, RJ11 splitter, phone cable
* Audio: N/A
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated, but requires Echo device)
list end
Amazon
Amazon Echo Connect image 1

The Echo Connect is a box that you plug your landline phone connection into to turn it into a voice-
controlled system. The box, which will be launched
in the US first and come to the UK and Germany early 2018, works with an Echo to give you Alexa
control over your conventional phone line. You will be
able to make and receive calls in the home simply by telling it answer or ring a contact.

As it uses your existing landline number, you won't need to sign up for any additional services either.
Plus, it all connects to other Echo devices around
the home so you can call from an Echo speaker in the kitchen, say, or a Dot in the bedroom. It
effectively signals the end of the basic handset. The Amazon
Echo Connect
goes on sale in Q4 in the US,
priced at $34.99.

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* Amazon Echo Connect turns your landline into an Alexa-enabled phone
list end

Amazon Echo Buttons
list of 7 items
* Availability: Not yet available yet in the US or the UK
* Price: $19.99/??19.99 for two
* Dimensions: N/A
* Connectivity: N/A
* Included cables: N/A
* Audio: N/A
* Alexa: N/A
list end
Amazon
Amazons New Echo Buttons Will Take Your Jeopardy Game To The Next Level image 1

Echo Buttons are Bluetooth-connected, multi-coloured devices that can connect to Alexa for gaming.
Imagine playing a game, such as Jeopardy, and being
able to slap these buzzer buttons as you play. Jeopardy, of course, has long been a popular skill on
Amazon's Alexa platform, so it makes sense that the
company would want to develop an accessory that takes advantage of it.

But you can use these buttons for any Alexa-enabled game skill, including trivia ones. Amazon
demoed such use-case scenarios during its event, showing
how they interact, glow, and respond to touch. Keep in mind Amazon isn't afraid of playing with
different form factors and ways of using Alexa. Amazon
said its Echo Buttons will cost $19.99 for a set of two in the US, or ??19.99 in the UK.

They are not yet available to pre-order or buy.

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* Amazon Echo Buttons will take your Jeopardy game to the next level

Conclusion: Which Echo should you buy?

When it comes to the Echo speakers, the falling price of the latest generation of devices makes them
attractive. The second-gen Echo (or Echo 2 as some
might call it) is attractively priced and looks great. The small size and small price of the Echo 2 does
come with a slight downside, and that's a smaller
sound.

If music is what you're interested in, then the Echo Plus sounds a lot better than the Echo 2, so we'd
recommend the Echo Plus as the speaker to buy. If
you can find a good deal on the original Echo then that is also worth considering, as it sounds better
than the Echo 2 and is just as smart thanks to the
Alexa skills it offers.

The Echo Plus is a natural smart home controller - although all Echo devices have Alexa skills to
support a wide range of smart home devices, the Echo
Plus will discover, name and control those devices that use Zigbee (like Philips Hue) without the need
for separate hubs or apps. If you're building a
smart home, the Echo Plus is the model you want.

The Echo Dot is essentially your Alexa extension, ideal for connecting to your existing sound system
to add smart skills, like voice controlled music.
Echo Dot is also ideal to extend Alexa to other rooms of the house, so if you've setup a voice-
controlled smart home, Echo Dot makes it easy to always
be in voice range.

The Echo Show takes things in a different direction. It's more expensive, but if gives you video calling.
If you know someone else with an Echo Show, it's
a natural choice to save you from needing to use Skype on your laptop for example. Echo Show is
also a great visual companion, serving up information cards
for things like weather or sports result, reflecting the Alexa experience on the Fire tablets.

The Echo Spot will give you a mini Show experience, putting video calling and a small screen into a
smaller device, the sort of thing you might want on
your desk or bedside table. You still get all the Alexa skills, but Spot will probably be best joining a
household that's already using Alexa. It's essentially
the Echo Dot with a display.

Why Amazon's Echo Dot Is Better Than Amazon Echo (2nd Generation)
Updated on April 7, 2018
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The Amazon Echo Dot
The Amazon Echo Dot | Source

What's the Amazon Echo Dot?

Amazon's
Echo Dot
is a 360 degree speaker that uses far-field voice recognition powered by the Amazon Alexa voice
service/assistant.

Design-wise it looks like a hockey puck with four buttons on top. It's basically a Bluetooth speaker that
looks like the first inch and a half of the top
of a Pringles can.

The Echo Dot has everything the Echo Plus has, including long range, far-field voice capabilities, a
microphone off button, volume buttons, an action button
(for WiFi setup), and of course "Alexa," who can answer questions, play music, and give you news,
weather, traffic, sports results, and much more.

You also won't lose access to any of the Echo's abilities, including its third party skills like Fitbit, Uber,
Domino's Pizza, and Capitol One (found in
the Alexa app).

However, there are a couple of huge differences between the Amazon Echo Plus and the new Echo
Dot such as the smart hub via Zigbee integration in the Plus.
This allows for easy smart home connectivity among a variety of products.

There are other differences listed below but ultimately you'll decide what works for you, so feel free to
compare and contrast between the Dot and the
Plus.

Comparison of Echo Plus, Echo Dot and Amazon Echo

table with 4 columns and 18 rows

Echo Plus
Echo Dot
Amazon Echo (2nd Gen)
"Alexa," who can answer questions, play music, and give you news, weather, traffic, sports results,
etc.?
yes
yes
yes
Skills like Fitbit, Uber, Domino's Pizza, and Capitol One (via Alexa)?
yes
yes
yes
Long range, far-field voice capabilities?
yes
yes
even better
Size
9.3" x 3.3" x 3.3"
1.5" x 3.3" x 3.3"
5.9" x 3.5" x 3.5"
A microphone off button?
yes
yes
yes
An action button (for WiFi)?
yes
yes
yes
Built-in speaker?
yes
yes
yes
A 3.5 mm audio output jack that facilitates connectivity to any speaker and turns it into an Alexa-
enabled device?
yes
yes
yes
Power adapter and USB charging cable included?
yes
yes
yes
ESP feature designed for multiple devices: Word command alerts the closest device?
yes
yes
yes
Can you connect to your own Bluetooth speaker?
yes
yes
yes
Is it portable?
no
with accessory
with accessory
Does it have a volume ring?
yes
no
no
Hands-free activation with a wake word?
yes
yes
yes
Color options?
black, white, or silver
black or white
multiple outer shell designs
Cost?
$150
$50
$100
Additional features
Zigbee smart hub integration
Install in vehicles via mobile connection
Improved audio with Dolby speakers
table end

The new Amazon Echo Dot is the smartest no-brainer ever

Echo Dot's Best New Features

While the software of Echo Dot is similar to its predecessor's, the different hardware makes it slightly
more interesting and accessible.

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* This product contains a 3.5 mm audio output jack that facilitates connectivity to any speaker and
turns it into an Alexa-enabled device.
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The Dot comes with a power adapter and a USB charging cable, but the 3.5 mm audio cable is sold
separately.

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* If you prefer to connect the device to your own Bluetooth speaker, then you may do just that.

Download the Alexa app from Fire OS, Android, or iOS devices and use the Quick Start Guide
included in the packaging to setup your WiFi and Bluetooth to
other products (mobile phones and Bluetooth speakers).

If you have a Sonos One speaker, you can access that speaker's settings in the Alexa app. You'll
need to enable the Sonos skill and link your account to
Alexa before setup.

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* You can obtain the sound quality you want and access Alexa's smarts, including the ESP feature
designed for multiple devices. When you say "Alexa", only
the closest device to you will respond.
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* The Echo Dot is much lighter/smaller than the Echo, which increases its portability in the home.
There are even ways to take the product outside the
home if combined with another Alexa powered device called the Amazon Tap.

However, the Amazon Tap is viewed as a middle-of-the-road Bluetooth speaker that lacks cellular
data and/or mobile hotspot connections, thus limiting portability.
The Tap may be battery powered, but when you constantly need a WiFi connection, it loses its punch.

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* The Echo Dot, like the Echo, provides hands-free activation through a wake word. Within the Alexa
app, the spoken wake word that activates the device
can either be "Alexa", "Computer", "Echo," or "Amazon."

Due to the Tap being battery powered, you have to "tap" a button on the device for Alexa to respond to
your request/question otherwise it'll drain the
battery.

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* Lastly, the 2nd generational model is available in either black or white.

The Echo Dot's Price Cut
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* At a mere $50 ($49.99 to be exact), the Echo Dot is half as expensive as its first generation
predecessor and $100 less than the Echo Plus.

You'll receive the same software and Alexa voice capabilities as the original with the added capacity
to improve speaker quality through an audio output
or Bluetooth connection, and it's half the price of an Amazon Echo! No wonder so many tech sites
praised this product, often giving it an Editor's Choice
Award.

The Echo Dot's closest price competitor is the Google Home Mini, which generally costs around $49.
The Mini is very similar to the Echo Dot in sound quality,
size, and ability, but the Dot (and Alexa) has been around longer and it offers a lot more third-party
integration than Google does.

Source

Echo Dot Stands on Its Own

What I love is that this device doesn't lose the far-field voice recognition of its predecessor.

The Echo Dot has a seven-microphone-array for listening, supports fast and easy WiFi connectivity,
and most importantly it has a built-in 0.6" speaker
that delivers sound on par with other mini Bluetooth speakers.

The sound quality will be lacking and won't fill a room with sound, but it's not bad for intimate bedroom
listening, and many reviewers agreed that it
sounded better than expected.

But if the sound quality bothers you, then you can always connect it to another speaker or perhaps
upgrade to the larger Echo. The Echo Dot was always
designed to be a gateway to the smart home, which is why consumers often buy multiple Dots for their
home.

So if you're willing to forego sound quality, then you can't go wrong with this device.

Good luck buying the Echo Dot, Amazon didn't make it easy!





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David Mehler
 

Hello,

Could the list owner please contact me privately? I have a question.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?

-
 

In addition to radio stations worldwide; there are thousands of podcasts available.

I use it often for weather, doing math, word definition, general info, setting alarms and reminders and timers etc.and many other such features.

On Sun, 3 Jun 2018, Walter Ramage via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi folks. It hasn't interested me in the past but I'm toying with the idea
of purchasing either a Google Home or An Amazon Echo. The problem is, I
don't know which product is the best, especially in the area of
accessibility. My main use for the product would be radio listening. I do
have a number of DAB radios in the house but their presets are limited and
it requires pressing a number of buttons to get the station required. With
either Google or Amazon I can ask for that station to be played. I guess
other skills might be useful but I don't know all what is available however
I'm not interested in having it turn on and off lights since I never use
lights since I am total. I understand that Amazon have a much wider range
of products but I'm not really concerned about appearance as it is
irrelevant to me. Also I know some echoes have touch screens but do they
have audio feedback? As I have said, I'm toying with the idea and haven't
made my mind up but when I do and if I decide to make a purchase I'd like to
have some idea of what I'm about to spend my money on. All comments
welcome. Walter.



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Re: Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?

Gene
 

Are you saying they both use both services or does one use one and the other use the other?  I never meant to give the impression that you don't have access to a lot of stations, you do.  I'm just saying that if your only or only significant use of such products is to listen to radio, you might as well use a computer, unless you really want the convenience of getting radio by speaking what you want to listen to. 
 
Not to mention the ability to record audio with a computer.  And with a computer, I can speed up podcasts or something I record and save lots of time.  Books as well. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?

Both Echo and Google Home use the Tunein and iHeart services for radio stations.

The easiest way to tune to a station is to speak the call letters.
You can even listen to podcasts through the devices.




From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, Jun 3, 2018 1:58 PM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?

I don't recall the prices of the products.  If your main interest is, and continues to be radio, then it's a waste of money, in my opinion..  You can get more radio stations using your computer and you can send the signal, using an FM transmitter, to all the radios in your house.  Using an FM transmitter, I don't know if you'll lose any sound qualitty, but you should get good sound. 
 
But you may decide, on learning more about what these devices do, that you want one for radio as well as other things. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?

Hi folks.  It hasn’t interested me in the past but I’m toying with the idea of purchasing either a Google Home or An Amazon Echo.  The problem is, I don’t know which product is the best, especially in the area of accessibility.  My main use for the product would be radio listening.  I do have a number of DAB radios in the house but their presets are limited and it requires pressing a number of buttons to get the station required.  With either Google or Amazon I can ask for that station to be played.  I guess other skills might be useful but I don’t know all what is available however I’m not interested in having it turn on and off lights since I never use lights since I am total.  I understand that Amazon have a much wider range of products but I’m not really concerned about appearance as it is irrelevant to me.  Also I know some echoes have touch screens but do they have audio feedback?  As I have said, I’m toying with the idea and haven’t made my mind up but when I do and if I decide to make a purchase I’d like to have some idea of what I’m about to spend my money on.  All comments welcome.  Walter.


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Re: Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?

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Yes, international stations can be accessed. Usually any station is started by its call letters or its name.

A local station k d k a is started by that call name. Just using npr anywhere starts the local public radio station nearest to you.

For example using a name; one of the bbc services is called bbc 4 which is a mostly news source, bbc 4 xtra plays radio dramas. There are
several other bbc choices for music and regional services in the uk.

On Sun, 3 Jun 2018, Walter Ramage via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi. Thanks. As much as I would like to listen to local and national radio
stations I wonder if the Echo would be able to find international radio
stations and if so, how is it done. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard Brock
Sent: 03 June 2018 20:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon
Echo?

Hello Walter,
I recommend the Amazon, Echo. You can purchase an Echo, Dot for $39
thatt will give you all its features for a very reasonable price.
You will ve able to listen to many radio stations, plus have access to
thousands of skills that are fun to interact with.
Good luck,
Rich

On 6/3/2018 1:45 PM, Walter Ramage via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi folks. It hasn't interested me in the past but I'm toying with the
idea
of purchasing either a Google Home or An Amazon Echo. The problem is, I
don't know which product is the best, especially in the area of
accessibility. My main use for the product would be radio listening. I
do
have a number of DAB radios in the house but their presets are limited and
it requires pressing a number of buttons to get the station required.
With
either Google or Amazon I can ask for that station to be played. I guess
other skills might be useful but I don't know all what is available
however
I'm not interested in having it turn on and off lights since I never use
lights since I am total. I understand that Amazon have a much wider range
of products but I'm not really concerned about appearance as it is
irrelevant to me. Also I know some echoes have touch screens but do they
have audio feedback? As I have said, I'm toying with the idea and haven't
made my mind up but when I do and if I decide to make a purchase I'd like
to
have some idea of what I'm about to spend my money on. All comments
welcome. Walter.









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Re: Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?

Chris Grabowski <skywalker@...>
 

Both Echo and Google Home use the Tunein and iHeart services for radio stations.

The easiest way to tune to a station is to speak the call letters.
You can even listen to podcasts through the devices.




From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, Jun 3, 2018 1:58 PM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?

I don't recall the prices of the products.  If your main interest is, and continues to be radio, then it's a waste of money, in my opinion..  You can get more radio stations using your computer and you can send the signal, using an FM transmitter, to all the radios in your house.  Using an FM transmitter, I don't know if you'll lose any sound qualitty, but you should get good sound. 
 
But you may decide, on learning more about what these devices do, that you want one for radio as well as other things. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?

Hi folks.  It hasn’t interested me in the past but I’m toying with the idea of purchasing either a Google Home or An Amazon Echo.  The problem is, I don’t know which product is the best, especially in the area of accessibility.  My main use for the product would be radio listening.  I do have a number of DAB radios in the house but their presets are limited and it requires pressing a number of buttons to get the station required.  With either Google or Amazon I can ask for that station to be played.  I guess other skills might be useful but I don’t know all what is available however I’m not interested in having it turn on and off lights since I never use lights since I am total.  I understand that Amazon have a much wider range of products but I’m not really concerned about appearance as it is irrelevant to me.  Also I know some echoes have touch screens but do they have audio feedback?  As I have said, I’m toying with the idea and haven’t made my mind up but when I do and if I decide to make a purchase I’d like to have some idea of what I’m about to spend my money on.  All comments welcome.  Walter.


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: All Amazon's Different Dots and Echoes!

Chris Grabowski <skywalker@...>
 

The echo connect works in conjunction with whatever other echo devices you have.
It is a little box.  In other words, you need an echo to work with the echo connect.  echo connect is useless without an echo.



From: Ashley Breger via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, Jun 3, 2018 8:02 PM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] All Amazon's Different Dots and Echoes!

The regular echo is kind of tall almost like he can’t of oatmeal. You can also make calls with the echo.which will basically do the same thing except the echo.is about the size of a hockey puck.
On Jun 3, 2018, at 5:16 PM, janet gross <janet.harvard@...> wrote:

Hi Ashley, 
Thank you for this, but which one is the regular Echo? 
Janet 


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashley Breger via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] All Amazon's Different Dots and Echoes!

You can also use the regular echo as a phone if you sync your phone number and contacts under the communications tab.
On Jun 3, 2018, at 5:03 PM, janet gross <janet.harvard@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
As I have been wanting  to purchase an Echo as well as some of you, I have been doing a little research on the Dots-Echoes, and it can be confusing!  Smile!  I had no idea there were so many different Dots-Echoes until I started researching them.  After reading all of this, I have to admit I might be a little more confused, but I have a better understanding of the Amazon Dots-Echoes.  I copied and pasted some information below for those who might be interested in buying one of these.  I would definitely like to have the Echo connect to use as my home phone.  That is just one of the ones I would like.  Lots of luck deciding which one you might want!

Janet

Amazon Echo vs Echo Plus vs Echo Tap vs Echo Dot vs Echo Show vs Echo Spot: What's the
difference?
| 7 March 2018
Amazon/Pocket-lint
Amazon's Echo lineup is insane at this point, spanning smart speakers, video devices and new Alexa
Gadgets.
The Echo family of products has grown rapidly over the last couple of years, with a flurry of new
devices announced last September to add to the portfolio.
There's an Echo for everyone!

Here are all the Alexa-enabled Amazon devices compared to help you work out which one best suits
your needs.

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* Buy Amazon Echo (UK),
Buy Amazon Echo (US)
* Buy Amazon Echo Spot (UK),
Buy Amazon Echo Spot (US)

Amazon Echo smart speakers

There are several variants of the Echo smart speaker available.
Amazon Echo (second generation)
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* Availability: Available in the US (
Amazon US order page)
/ Available in the UK (
Amazon UK order page)
* Price: $99.99 / £89.99
* Dimensions: 148.5 x 88 x 88mm, 820g
* Connectivity: Dual-band Wi-Fi supports 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 and 5GHz)and Bluetooth (A2DP)
* Power: Power adaptor/cable (5.9ft)
* Audio: 2.5-inch woofer and 0.6-inch tweeter
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)

Pocket-lint
Amazon Echo Original Vs Echo Tap Vs Echo Dot Vs Echo Look Vs Echo Show Vs Echo 2017 Vs
Echo Plus Vs Echo Spot Whats The Difference image 3

The original Amazon Echo is dead. Long live the
Amazon Echo.
That's right. Amazon has retired the original Echo model and replaced it with a new connected Alexa
speaker that's shorter, and comes with a range of different
finishes for a nicer, more contemporary look. It still offers the same Alexa power as it did before,
serving as the centre of the universe while coming
in at a much cheaper price.

It's just better designed to fit into your kitchen, thanks to those new shells. It's very much realigning
itself as a competitor to the
Google Home.
While it offers all the skills of Alexa and offers Bluetooth and the rest of the Echo experience, it
doesn't sound as good as the original model, nor as
good as the Echo Plus. This is the model to get if you want to get connected cheaply, but accepting
that music isn't top of your list.

It's available to buy now in both the
US
and the
UK.

* Amazon Echo 2 review: Cheaper price, cheaper experience

Amazon Echo Plus
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* Availability: Available in the US (
See on Amazon US)
/ Available in the UK (
See on Amazon UK)
* Price: $139.99 / £149.99
* Dimensions: 235 x 84 x 84mm, 954g
* Connectivity: Dual-band Wi-Fi supports 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 and 5GHz)and Bluetooth (A2DP)
* Power: Power adaptor/cable (5.9ft)
* Audio: 2.5-inch woofer and 0.8-inch tweeter
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)

Pocket-lint
Amazon Echo Original Vs Echo Tap Vs Echo Dot Vs Echo Look Vs Echo Show Vs Echo 2017 Vs
Echo Plus Vs Echo Spot Whats The Difference image 4

Amazon
Echo Plus
is now top of the Echo tree. It looks just like the original, canister-shaped Echo. It's very much the
same design as the original speaker, but offering
better sound quality, while also offering better quality sound than the smaller Echo 2. Echo Plus has
all the Alexa skills you know and love - so it will
do the same things as the other Echos - but it's a much more capable smart home controller, thanks
to the inclusion of Zigbee.

Zigbee is a smart home standard used by many devices - such as Philips Hue lights - which allows
the Echo Plus to setup and control devices without the
need for a separate hub or app specific to that device. You just plug in your Hue lights (for example),
tell the Echo Plus to search for them and it will
name them and over voice controls. It's very simple.

The Amazon Echo Plus is our favourite of the Echo range. It is available in the
US,
UK
and other regions now.

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* Amazon Echo Plus initial review: The smart home choice for Alexa
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Amazon Tap
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* Availability: Available in the US (
See on Amazon US)
/ Not available in the UK
* Price: $129.99
* Dimensions: 59 x 66 x 66 mm, 470g
* Connectivity: Bluetooth and supports 802.11b, 802.11g, or 802.11n Wi-Fi
* Power: Relies on a charging cradle (9 hours of playback)
* Audio: 360-degree sound (dual 1.5-inch drivers and dual passive radiators)
* Alexa: Yes (Not always-listening by default; Must touch mic button to access Alexa or enable
hands-free option in Settings)
Amazon Tap is a 6.2-inch-tall cylinder speaker with a 7-piece microphone array and full access to
Alexa, making it a smaller, more portable, version of
the original Echo. Unlike the Echo though, the Amazon Tap is wireless and must use the included
cradle to charge but it can do all the same tricks as Echo
as long as you are connected to Wi-Fi.

Amazon says the Tap will stream up to 9 hours of audio on a full charge, or last up to 3 weeks in
standby mode. The Tap isn't an always-on by default like
the Echo is. To wake it, you need to press the mic on the front or you can enable the hands-free option
in the Settings section of the Alexa app to wake
Alexa without having to tap the Tap, though this will drain battery.

* Doubling up on Alexa: How to use multiple Amazon Echo and Dots

Amazon Echo Dot
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* Availability: Available in the US (
See on Amazon US)
/ Available in the UK (
See on Amazon UK)
* Price: $49 / £49
* Dimensions: 38 x 84 x 84mm, 250g
* Connectivity: Bluetooth and dual-band, dual-antenna Wi-Fi (MIMO)
* Power: Plugs into a wall outlet
* Audio: 0.6-inch tweeter
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)
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Echo Plus Vs Echo Spot Whats The Difference image 5

Echo Dot
is 1.6-inch-tall cylinder with one tiny speaker. It's basically just the top section of the Amazon Echo
and half the price, though equally as smart. It
supports always-on Alexa, connects to the cloud to stream music, controls your smart home devices,
and it offers all the same features as Echo.

The main difference between Dot and Echo is that the speaker is gone. The idea is you'll hook Dot up
to your own audio setup (via 3.5mm or Bluetooth) so
you can use Alexa with your existing speakers. That tiny speaker won't output much audio; it's only
really for Alexa voice feedback, which, again, requires
Wi-Fi. Echo Dot is a great way to add smart skills to another device or a different room.

* Amazon Echo Dot review: The tiny personal assistant with big personality

Amazon video devices
Aside from the devices that kick-started the connected speaker trend, Amazon has also moved into
the realm of video too, with several devices that will
give you a screen to take the Alexa experience into the visual realm.

Amazon Echo Show
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* Availability: Available in the US (
See on Amazon US),
Available in the UK (
See on Amazon UK)
* Price: $229.99 / £199.99
* Dimensions: 187 x 187 x 90mm, 1170g
* Connectivity: Dual-band Wi-Fi supports 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 and 5 GHz)
* Power: Power adapter/cable (6 foot)
* Camera: 5-megapixel sensor
* Audio: 8-microphone array, dual 2-inch stereo speakers
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)

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Amazon's Echo Show is a touchscreen device with built-in Alexa and it can do everything the regular,
voice-only Echo can do (like setting timers and playing
music), but it has a built-in display to offer a new level of interaction. It's meant to show you more
information about your Alexa queries, such as display
a full weather report, steps in a recipe and it can even serve as a digital photo frame, fetching your
pictures stored on Prime Photos or display lyrics
when playing songs from Amazon Music, with bigger and better speakers to do so.

You can connect Echo Show to your Wi-Fi-enabled security cameras in order to check your video
feeds and you'll also be able to place and receive calls
- both video and voice. A feature called
Drop In
allows you to specify which friends and family can make a call at any time, with the receiver offering a
10-second timeframe to reject a Drop In call
or go into audio-only mode.

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* Amazon Echo Show review: Alexa steps into a touchscreen future
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Amazon Echo Spot
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* Availability:
Available in the US
and
now the UK
* Price: £119.99, $129.99
* Dimensions: 32 x 84 x 84mm, 163g
* Connectivity: Dual-band Wi-Fi supports 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 and 5GHz)and Bluetooth (A2DP)
* Power: Power adaptor/cable (5.9ft)
* Audio: Built-in speaker, 3.5mm stereo audio output
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)
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The
Amazon Echo Spot
is what you'd get if you cross the Echo Show with the Echo Dot. It's a compact Echo to sit beside your
bed for alarms. It has a small 2.5-inch screen,
which can be used for basic tasks and skills, like music, but it does a lot more. Like the Echo Show it
can be used to make video calls, with a front camera.

It basically offers the same functions as the Echo Show, but in a much smaller form factor. It can also
connect to your Bluetooth speakers, or via line-out.
The Amazon Echo Spot is now available in both the US and UK.

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* Amazon Echo Spot initial review: Smart alarm clock or so much more?

Alexa Gadgets

Amazon officially announced Alexa Gadgets in 2017 a range of innovative devices that take Alexa
into a new realm. We've included the Echo Look in this
selection, because of its unique set of features.

Amazon Echo Look
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* Availability: Available in the US - invite only (
See on Amazon US)
* Price: $199.99
* Dimensions: N/A
* Connectivity: Dual-band, dual antenna (MIMO. 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz)
* Power: Power adapter (21W) with 7.9 ft. cable
* Camera: 5-megapixel sensor
* Audio: Built-in microphone array, built-in speaker
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated)

Amazon
Amazon Echo Original Vs Echo Tap Vs Echo Dot Vs Echo Look Vs Echo Show Vs Echo 2017 Vs
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Echo Show is a $199 Wi-Fi camera that offers full Alexa functionality plus hands-free photo and
video. It is pitched as a cloud-connected fashion consultant
that allows you to snap pictures of yourself in various outfits. Alexa's software will automatically blur
the background in each image to make your outfit
pop, and then it uses machine learning guided by "fashion experts" to serve up recommendations
about what you should wear.

It will work as any other Alexa-enabled device, allowing you to access music, traffic timers, weather,
and a vast library of "skills." The device is wall-mountable,
too, and includes a 5-megapixel sensor, built-in microphone array, and small built-in speaker. It also
has LED lights (used for the flash). No other specs
have been announced yet and there is no date set for when the Echo Look will start shipping to
customers.

Currently, it is available in the US only via an invite-only scheme.

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* Amazon Echo Look is the personal assistant that replaces your mirror

Amazon Echo Connect
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* Availability: Available in the US (
See on Amazon US),
Not yet available in the UK
* Price: $34.99
* Dimensions: 130 x 90 x 29.5mm, 126.9g
* Connectivity: Dual-band Wi-Fi supports 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (2.4 and 5 GHz)
* Included cables: Power adapter, Micro-USB cable, RJ11 splitter, phone cable
* Audio: N/A
* Alexa: Yes (Always-on/always-listening/voice-activated, but requires Echo device)
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Amazon Echo Connect image 1

The Echo Connect is a box that you plug your landline phone connection into to turn it into a voice-
controlled system. The box, which will be launched
in the US first and come to the UK and Germany early 2018, works with an Echo to give you Alexa
control over your conventional phone line. You will be
able to make and receive calls in the home simply by telling it answer or ring a contact.

As it uses your existing landline number, you won't need to sign up for any additional services either.
Plus, it all connects to other Echo devices around
the home so you can call from an Echo speaker in the kitchen, say, or a Dot in the bedroom. It
effectively signals the end of the basic handset. The Amazon
Echo Connect
goes on sale in Q4 in the US,
priced at $34.99.

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* Amazon Echo Connect turns your landline into an Alexa-enabled phone
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Amazon Echo Buttons
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* Availability: Not yet available yet in the US or the UK
* Price: $19.99/£19.99 for two
* Dimensions: N/A
* Connectivity: N/A
* Included cables: N/A
* Audio: N/A
* Alexa: N/A
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Amazon
Amazons New Echo Buttons Will Take Your Jeopardy Game To The Next Level image 1

Echo Buttons are Bluetooth-connected, multi-coloured devices that can connect to Alexa for gaming.
Imagine playing a game, such as Jeopardy, and being
able to slap these buzzer buttons as you play. Jeopardy, of course, has long been a popular skill on
Amazon's Alexa platform, so it makes sense that the
company would want to develop an accessory that takes advantage of it.

But you can use these buttons for any Alexa-enabled game skill, including trivia ones. Amazon
demoed such use-case scenarios during its event, showing
how they interact, glow, and respond to touch. Keep in mind Amazon isn't afraid of playing with
different form factors and ways of using Alexa. Amazon
said its Echo Buttons will cost $19.99 for a set of two in the US, or £19.99 in the UK.

They are not yet available to pre-order or buy.

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* Amazon Echo Buttons will take your Jeopardy game to the next level

Conclusion: Which Echo should you buy?

When it comes to the Echo speakers, the falling price of the latest generation of devices makes them
attractive. The second-gen Echo (or Echo 2 as some
might call it) is attractively priced and looks great. The small size and small price of the Echo 2 does
come with a slight downside, and that's a smaller
sound.

If music is what you're interested in, then the Echo Plus sounds a lot better than the Echo 2, so we'd
recommend the Echo Plus as the speaker to buy. If
you can find a good deal on the original Echo then that is also worth considering, as it sounds better
than the Echo 2 and is just as smart thanks to the
Alexa skills it offers.

The Echo Plus is a natural smart home controller - although all Echo devices have Alexa skills to
support a wide range of smart home devices, the Echo
Plus will discover, name and control those devices that use Zigbee (like Philips Hue) without the need
for separate hubs or apps. If you're building a
smart home, the Echo Plus is the model you want.

The Echo Dot is essentially your Alexa extension, ideal for connecting to your existing sound system
to add smart skills, like voice controlled music.
Echo Dot is also ideal to extend Alexa to other rooms of the house, so if you've setup a voice-
controlled smart home, Echo Dot makes it easy to always
be in voice range.

The Echo Show takes things in a different direction. It's more expensive, but if gives you video calling.
If you know someone else with an Echo Show, it's
a natural choice to save you from needing to use Skype on your laptop for example. Echo Show is
also a great visual companion, serving up information cards
for things like weather or sports result, reflecting the Alexa experience on the Fire tablets.

The Echo Spot will give you a mini Show experience, putting video calling and a small screen into a
smaller device, the sort of thing you might want on
your desk or bedside table. You still get all the Alexa skills, but Spot will probably be best joining a
household that's already using Alexa. It's essentially
the Echo Dot with a display.

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The Amazon Echo Dot
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What's the Amazon Echo Dot?

Amazon's
Echo Dot
is a 360 degree speaker that uses far-field voice recognition powered by the Amazon Alexa voice
service/assistant.

Design-wise it looks like a hockey puck with four buttons on top. It's basically a Bluetooth speaker that
looks like the first inch and a half of the top
of a Pringles can.

The Echo Dot has everything the Echo Plus has, including long range, far-field voice capabilities, a
microphone off button, volume buttons, an action button
(for WiFi setup), and of course "Alexa," who can answer questions, play music, and give you news,
weather, traffic, sports results, and much more.

You also won't lose access to any of the Echo's abilities, including its third party skills like Fitbit, Uber,
Domino's Pizza, and Capitol One (found in
the Alexa app).

However, there are a couple of huge differences between the Amazon Echo Plus and the new Echo
Dot such as the smart hub via Zigbee integration in the Plus.
This allows for easy smart home connectivity among a variety of products.

There are other differences listed below but ultimately you'll decide what works for you, so feel free to
compare and contrast between the Dot and the
Plus.

Comparison of Echo Plus, Echo Dot and Amazon Echo

table with 4 columns and 18 rows

Echo Plus
Echo Dot
Amazon Echo (2nd Gen)
"Alexa," who can answer questions, play music, and give you news, weather, traffic, sports results,
etc.?
yes
yes
yes
Skills like Fitbit, Uber, Domino's Pizza, and Capitol One (via Alexa)?
yes
yes
yes
Long range, far-field voice capabilities?
yes
yes
even better
Size
9.3" x 3.3" x 3.3"
1.5" x 3.3" x 3.3"
5.9" x 3.5" x 3.5"
A microphone off button?
yes
yes
yes
An action button (for WiFi)?
yes
yes
yes
Built-in speaker?
yes
yes
yes
A 3.5 mm audio output jack that facilitates connectivity to any speaker and turns it into an Alexa-
enabled device?
yes
yes
yes
Power adapter and USB charging cable included?
yes
yes
yes
ESP feature designed for multiple devices: Word command alerts the closest device?
yes
yes
yes
Can you connect to your own Bluetooth speaker?
yes
yes
yes
Is it portable?
no
with accessory
with accessory
Does it have a volume ring?
yes
no
no
Hands-free activation with a wake word?
yes
yes
yes
Color options?
black, white, or silver
black or white
multiple outer shell designs
Cost?
$150
$50
$100
Additional features
Zigbee smart hub integration
Install in vehicles via mobile connection
Improved audio with Dolby speakers
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The new Amazon Echo Dot is the smartest no-brainer ever

Echo Dot's Best New Features

While the software of Echo Dot is similar to its predecessor's, the different hardware makes it slightly
more interesting and accessible.

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* This product contains a 3.5 mm audio output jack that facilitates connectivity to any speaker and
turns it into an Alexa-enabled device.
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The Dot comes with a power adapter and a USB charging cable, but the 3.5 mm audio cable is sold
separately.

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* If you prefer to connect the device to your own Bluetooth speaker, then you may do just that.

Download the Alexa app from Fire OS, Android, or iOS devices and use the Quick Start Guide
included in the packaging to setup your WiFi and Bluetooth to
other products (mobile phones and Bluetooth speakers).

If you have a Sonos One speaker, you can access that speaker's settings in the Alexa app. You'll
need to enable the Sonos skill and link your account to
Alexa before setup.

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* You can obtain the sound quality you want and access Alexa's smarts, including the ESP feature
designed for multiple devices. When you say "Alexa", only
the closest device to you will respond.
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* The Echo Dot is much lighter/smaller than the Echo, which increases its portability in the home.
There are even ways to take the product outside the
home if combined with another Alexa powered device called the Amazon Tap.

However, the Amazon Tap is viewed as a middle-of-the-road Bluetooth speaker that lacks cellular
data and/or mobile hotspot connections, thus limiting portability.
The Tap may be battery powered, but when you constantly need a WiFi connection, it loses its punch.

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* The Echo Dot, like the Echo, provides hands-free activation through a wake word. Within the Alexa
app, the spoken wake word that activates the device
can either be "Alexa", "Computer", "Echo," or "Amazon."

Due to the Tap being battery powered, you have to "tap" a button on the device for Alexa to respond to
your request/question otherwise it'll drain the
battery.

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* Lastly, the 2nd generational model is available in either black or white.

The Echo Dot's Price Cut
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* At a mere $50 ($49.99 to be exact), the Echo Dot is half as expensive as its first generation
predecessor and $100 less than the Echo Plus.

You'll receive the same software and Alexa voice capabilities as the original with the added capacity
to improve speaker quality through an audio output
or Bluetooth connection, and it's half the price of an Amazon Echo! No wonder so many tech sites
praised this product, often giving it an Editor's Choice
Award.

The Echo Dot's closest price competitor is the Google Home Mini, which generally costs around $49.
The Mini is very similar to the Echo Dot in sound quality,
size, and ability, but the Dot (and Alexa) has been around longer and it offers a lot more third-party
integration than Google does.

Source

Echo Dot Stands on Its Own

What I love is that this The regular echo is tall and about the size of a can of oatmeal. The echo.will do the same thing and it is very small. Poops I meant to say the echo dot.




Re: Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?

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The amazon devices use the same internet radio feeds as on a computer. In other ords, if the station has a feed the devices will play them.

The satellite radio services can also be accessed, as can stations worldwide.

They are started by using the call letters of the station usually.

On Sun, 3 Jun 2018, Gene wrote:

I don't recall the prices of the products. If your main interest is, and continues to be radio, then it's a waste of money, in my opinion.. You can get more radio stations using your computer and you can send the signal, using an FM transmitter, to all the radios in your house. Using an FM transmitter, I don't know if you'll lose any sound qualitty, but you should get good sound.

But you may decide, on learning more about what these devices do, that you want one for radio as well as other things.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 12:45 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Which is the better product; Google Home or Amazon Echo?


Hi folks. It hasn't interested me in the past but I'm toying with the idea of purchasing either a Google Home or An Amazon Echo. The problem is, I don't know which product is the best, especially in the area of accessibility. My main use for the product would be radio listening. I do have a number of DAB radios in the house but their presets are limited and it requires pressing a number of buttons to get the station required. With either Google or Amazon I can ask for that station to be played. I guess other skills might be useful but I don't know all what is available however I'm not interested in having it turn on and off lights since I never use lights since I am total. I understand that Amazon have a much wider range of products but I'm not really concerned about appearance as it is irrelevant to me. Also I know some echoes have touch screens but do they have audio feedback? As I have said, I'm toying with the idea and haven't made my mind up but when I do and if I decide to make a purchase I'd like to have some idea of what I'm about to spend my money on. All comments welcome. Walter.


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Re: voting.

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Oh, absolutely. NY does require the paper ballot for which I am grateful.

Ann P.

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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: voting.

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

No, it's not an over-reaction. I keep hearing from various blind people that they prefer to fill out an absentee ballot. That's a cop-out! That is a deliberate and flagrant turning of one's back upon all the advocacy efforts which have gone into providing a method so that HAVA can be implemented. It's not perfect, but it will go absolutely nowhere if people allow the polling assistants to help them or if they vote successfully using the BMD and don't let their polling people know what was wrong with the experience. This is an important issue. Yes, go to the polling place and vote.

Perhaps I feel strongly about this, but a discussion of the technical aspects of the various BMD's wouldn't be amiss here.

Hmmm, if you lived fifty miles from Seneca Falls, and you grew up learning about Fredrick Douglas and Susan B. Anthony, and if you were a woman, or black or an immigrant, or if your grandparents were immigrants, you might feel differently.

Ann P.

Ann P.

Original message:

Overreaction much? He was just asking about voting in person.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 7:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] voting.
Hi all,
On the contrary, I would go to my voting precinct and ask to use the BMD,
(Ballot Marking Device). Do not have someone help you unless the drones
there can't or won't allow you to use it. Do not allow them to :help you"
by marking your ballot for you. Demand to use the BMD. If you do not do
this, you will be put down as a statistic which shows that the money spent
on these devices is not needed. Don't make it easy for your county to moan
and complain that they do not have to spend all this money because people
don't use the accessible voting machines. If you do, it sends a clear
statistical message that BMD's are not needed. Do you want to hold back
progress? Do you want to make it difficult for your fellow voters to vote?
Jim, both men and women have *died* so that you can vote. Do *not* discard
their sacrifices without thought. Vote and demand that they give you an
accessible and private way to do so.
One of the most moving things I ever witnessed on TV was the coverage of the
2016 elections here in Rochester. One of the news stories was how
flabbergasted the caretakers of Mount Hope Cemetery were when
twenty-thousand people showed up, stood in line in the rain to place their
"I voted" stickers on Susan B. Anthony's grave. Twenty-thousand people!
They didn't know how to handle it.
Ann P.
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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor
"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."




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Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: voting.

Michael Boyd <mike122061@...>
 

 

Hi Jim,

 

Where I vote, they have a keypad that connects to the regular voting machines that they have. They request that you bring your own earbuds or phones, and they show how to navigate the ballot and cast your vote using the keypad. Once you start the voting process by pressing a buttone on the keypad, the machine will guide you through the process using a very good speech system. I finished my ballot in the last presidential election along with all of the other offices and bills etc, in about 10 to 15 minutes. As there are not that many blind voters, the pressure to vote quickly and move on for the next voter is not present. It sure was             nice to move right through the crowd there and go straight to the voting machine set aside for the blind and handicapped.

 

Michael

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 6:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] voting.

 

Hi all,

I missed the date to send in my absentee ballot. They wanted it by May 29. So, now I will have to go to my local precinct office to vote. I have always voted absentee ballot. Have any of you voted at your local precinct? If so, how did they do it with you? Jim


Re: voting.

Ron Canazzi
 

At the risk of making this too political, I submit that many of the electronic voting machines run the risk of being hacked.  In particular if your electronic and 'accessible?' voting machine does not have paper verification--a step that is not required in many states--there is a possible that your so-called private vote may not be counted or that it may be even flipped to someone for whom you did not vote.  Let's not be so one sided that we sacrifice voter integrity for accessibility.

On 6/3/2018 10:32 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

On the contrary, I would go to my voting precinct and ask to use the BMD, (Ballot Marking Device).  Do not have someone help you unless the drones there can't or won't allow you to use it.  Do not allow them to :help you" by marking your ballot for you. Demand to use the BMD.  If you do not do this, you will be put down as a statistic which shows that the money spent on these devices is not needed.  Don't make it easy for your county to moan and complain that they do not have to spend all this money because people don't use the accessible voting machines.  If you do, it sends a clear statistical message that BMD's are not needed.  Do you want to hold back progress?  Do you want to make it difficult for your fellow voters to vote?  Jim, both men and women have *died* so that you can vote.  Do *not* discard their sacrifices without thought.  Vote and demand that they give you an accessible and private way to do so.

One of the most moving things I ever witnessed on TV was the coverage of the 2016 elections here in Rochester.  One of the news stories was how flabbergasted the caretakers of Mount Hope Cemetery were when twenty-thousand people showed up, stood in line in the rain to place their "I voted" stickers on Susan B. Anthony's grave.  Twenty-thousand people!  They didn't know how to handle it.

Ann P.
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

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