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Re: Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...>
 

Hi Gene

 

Ok I have managed to get 45 as a portable version, haven’t done anything with it as yet. What is the last version Rumola works with please?

 

Regards

Adrien

 

Skype with me on adriencollins06

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 03 August 2018 09:34
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

 

42 works with webvisum.  You may need the newer version of webvisum.  I don't know, at this point, whether people get better results using the Webvism site to download the program or use the version that was released by someone who isn't affiliated with NVDA.  Others may comment.  But you don't need an earlier version of Firefox.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 2:02 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

 

Hi Gene

 

Ok My preferred version is 42, how can I get firefox earlier versions and does this work with webvisum?

 

Regards

Adrien

 

Skype with me on adriencollins06

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 03 August 2018 01:43
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

 

Use an earlier portable version of Firefox for sites where you need to fill in a captcha.  Use your other current browser or browsers for general browsing.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:19 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

 

Hi

I have up-graded to latest firefox, unfortunately, neither captcha be gone or rumola work or can be installed with the version I am using. I tried to install captcha be gone but the file is corrupt and having messaged them, I have heard nothing back. I tried to install rumola this morning it is not supported. What do I do please? I am using windows 10 pro and firefox 62 I think.

Regards

Adrien

Skype with me on adriencollins06

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: 02 August 2018 20:39
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Hi.  Thanks for this.  I didn't think Webvism worked with that version of Firefox.


Now I have what may be a very dumb question. . . . how do i install this
file?  When i press enter, Windows wants to know what program I want to
use to open the file.  If I extract the files using 7Zip, I get a list
of files that I have no clue how to work with.


Should I be looking for some kind of executable file?


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/2/2018 2:37 AM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:
>







Re: google chrome list

Gene
 

There may be a list but that isn't usually the best way to learn a program when you know nothing about it.  There is a tutorial, done, I believe, by one of the members of this list.  He'll probably send it to you or to the list as a whole.
 
In addition. browsing is browsing with any browser that uses The Virtual PC Cursor or, as some screen-readers call it, browse mode.  Commands such as move to next heading, button, etc. are browse mode commands.
 
If you want to work with settings, that is a different interface than whatever browser you are now using. 
 
I won't say more now because the tutorial may well cover comments I might make.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 12:26 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] google chrome list

Hay, I wanted to learn google chrome. Is their a blind google chrome list somewhere? Thanks Heather

 

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...
sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
An Accessible Online Library:
www.bookshare.org

 


Re: Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Gene
 

42 works with webvisum.  You may need the newer version of webvisum.  I don't know, at this point, whether people get better results using the Webvism site to download the program or use the version that was released by someone who isn't affiliated with NVDA.  Others may comment.  But you don't need an earlier version of Firefox.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Hi Gene

 

Ok My preferred version is 42, how can I get firefox earlier versions and does this work with webvisum?

 

Regards

Adrien

 

Skype with me on adriencollins06

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 03 August 2018 01:43
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

 

Use an earlier portable version of Firefox for sites where you need to fill in a captcha.  Use your other current browser or browsers for general browsing.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:19 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

 

Hi

I have up-graded to latest firefox, unfortunately, neither captcha be gone or rumola work or can be installed with the version I am using. I tried to install captcha be gone but the file is corrupt and having messaged them, I have heard nothing back. I tried to install rumola this morning it is not supported. What do I do please? I am using windows 10 pro and firefox 62 I think.

Regards

Adrien

Skype with me on adriencollins06

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: 02 August 2018 20:39
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Hi.  Thanks for this.  I didn't think Webvism worked with that version of Firefox.


Now I have what may be a very dumb question. . . . how do i install this
file?  When i press enter, Windows wants to know what program I want to
use to open the file.  If I extract the files using 7Zip, I get a list
of files that I have no clue how to work with.


Should I be looking for some kind of executable file?


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/2/2018 2:37 AM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:
>








Re: Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

mcLeod stinnett
 

From Mack Lisa, I assume you have downloaded the file. it will go into your downloads folder. now with firefox 52.ESR, go to the file and open it, by pressing enter. it should install without asking what you should use to open it. if it does, choose firefox.


jaws 18 question please

Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...>
 

Hi

 

I have just installed the latest version of jaws, the voices are different, I have eloquence on the log-on screen, how can I change this please, I have searched through the options but can’t see where to change it so the voice is the same as windows itself.

 

Regards

Adrien

 

Skype with me on adriencollins06


Re: Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...>
 

Hi Gene

 

Ok My preferred version is 42, how can I get firefox earlier versions and does this work with webvisum?

 

Regards

Adrien

 

Skype with me on adriencollins06

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 03 August 2018 01:43
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

 

Use an earlier portable version of Firefox for sites where you need to fill in a captcha.  Use your other current browser or browsers for general browsing.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:19 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

 

Hi

I have up-graded to latest firefox, unfortunately, neither captcha be gone or rumola work or can be installed with the version I am using. I tried to install captcha be gone but the file is corrupt and having messaged them, I have heard nothing back. I tried to install rumola this morning it is not supported. What do I do please? I am using windows 10 pro and firefox 62 I think.

Regards

Adrien

Skype with me on adriencollins06

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: 02 August 2018 20:39
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Hi.  Thanks for this.  I didn't think Webvism worked with that version of Firefox.


Now I have what may be a very dumb question. . . . how do i install this
file?  When i press enter, Windows wants to know what program I want to
use to open the file.  If I extract the files using 7Zip, I get a list
of files that I have no clue how to work with.


Should I be looking for some kind of executable file?


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/2/2018 2:37 AM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:
>








google chrome list

heather albright
 

Hay, I wanted to learn google chrome. Is their a blind google chrome list somewhere? Thanks Heather

 

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...
sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
An Accessible Online Library:
www.bookshare.org

 


Office 365 excel and naming columns?

adam morris
 

atug office 365 excel define name query.
Hi all,
I used to be able to use ctrl 3 to define the name for columns so if you have columns across the top of a sheet you could tell which column you were on
if you were a few rows down.
This doesn't seem to work any more.
Does anyone know if this has been changed in office and if so the new command?
I realise I can do the same thing in Jaws but the other way was screen reader generic.

TIA.

-- 

Adam Morris
Jaws certified 2016
Email, iMessage & FaceTime 
adam@...


Re: Blindy.TV

Karim Lakhani
 

It's an great sight!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 6:42 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi all,

If I want described TV, I like thelistenfactor.com

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Gene
 

I don't know what version of Firefox you are using.  Save the file.  Open the NVDA menus, find add ons manager and press enter.  Look around.  If you have more questions, ask here.  You should be able to install the add on using the add ons manager.  You should be able to press enter on the add on as well.  If the extension isn't correct, change it to the correct extension and then press enter on the file or use the add ons manager.
 
If you are using a portable version of NVDA, you must use the add ons manager. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Hmm, I pasted the link into Firefox and it asked if I wanted to save the
file or open it.  Saving it just downloaded another copy of Webvism. 
The open with option wants me to tell Windows what to use to open the link.


I'm obviously missing something here.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/2/2018 8:44 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:
>




Re: I can't open attachments in Outlook 2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Gene
 

I don't have one.  Cathy Anne Murtha has a very good one but you may not want to spend the money.  it costs about seventy dollars, as I recall.  I don't know what else is available in detail nor if there is anything that is comparable in quality.  But I know Cathy anne's material is very good.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook 2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Do you have a basics tutorial? Is it for sale, or do you
make available to those who are interested. I'd be very
interested in Basics. Thank you.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Also, while looking at the message, I see that fragments of
the message I thought I had deleted were included after my
signature.  While Windows Basics would help most people be
far better Windows users if they don't know them well, I
thought I had removed my comments on that because I had
discussed the topic before in the past with you and I didn't
see the point in repeating what I said again.  You
considered what I said in the past and it's your decision.
also, depending on what you do and how you use the computer,
you may not see the point of spending time learning these
things in a systemnatic way unless you just enjoy doing so.
There are real advantages, not needingt voluminous notes not
needing to do a lot of rote memorization, being able to look
at various unfamiliar interfaces and see the underlying
structures and pretty much know how to work with them, but
if you are already doing what you want to do, know the
commands you usually want to use, and are not learning new
programs much, you may not want to spend the time. 
 
Gene
-----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 6:57 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Thank you. 
 
While I don't like responding to a compliment with a
criticism, this is something I think I should point out.
 
why don't you either quote the message you are referring to
or make a reference to it so people have an idea what you
are talking about.  This thread is going on on two different
lists and I've sent many messages discussing the matter on
whicheever list I was responding to.  I had to look in my
sent messages to figure out which message you are commenting
on.
 
And how are people who receive hundreds of messages daily
going to remember what message you are referring to in cases
where there is no way to know from the context?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Ann Parsons <mailto:akp@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 6:36 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Hi all,

Gene, excellent post!

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@... <mailto:akp@...> Author of The
Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."








Re: Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Lisa Belville
 

Hmm, I pasted the link into Firefox and it asked if I wanted to save the file or open it.  Saving it just downloaded another copy of Webvism.  The open with option wants me to tell Windows what to use to open the link.


I'm obviously missing something here.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@frontier.com

On 8/2/2018 8:44 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:


Re: Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

mcLeod stinnett
 

--
From Mack you need to have firefox 52.ESR installed and open when you click on the link I gave you. i believe that's how i did it.


Re: I can't open attachments in Outlook 2013, Windows 10, JAWS 18.

Gene
 

Don't change file extensions.  The file extension tells Windows what file to open a program with and if you change an extension, it may open with the wrong program and it may not be able to display or work with the file properly even if the file is supposed to open in the program.  If you get an RTF attachment, and you change it to DOCX, Word will expect a DOCX file.  It is a different format. 
 
If you open an attachment from the e-mail program, it retains it's original extension.  If you save the file, it should be used with its original extension except in rare specific cases, one of which I'll give as an example later. 
 
If you want, for example, rtf files to open in Word, tell Windows to open RTF files in Word.  Don't change the extension of the file. 
 
I assume the way you tell Windows to open a file with a certain extension in a certain program is the same or about the same in Windows 10, using the context menu, as in earlier versions.  But I don't Know that.  I therefore will wait to see what other people say about using this method. 
 
But unless there is a specific reason to do so, for example, epub files are actually zip files and you can easily read them outside of an epub reader by changing the extension to zip and doing one or two other things, you shouldn't change the extension of a file.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook 2013, Windows 10, JAWS 18.

I just switch back to Plain Text, based on your opinion.
Whenever I save I always put dot docs as an extension so
that it will be a Word file.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Windows 10, JAWS 18.

You don't have to switch to html.  You will be a better
Windows user if you try this using plain text.  There are
two attachments in the message.  Select the one you want in
the list.  Then save it.  Before, you saved the wrong attac
hment.  In HTML, there is onley one attachment,  In plain
text, if the writer has added a  attachment, you will often
see two.  Do you have your Windows set to tell you file
extensions?  When you are in file explorer and you are up
and down arrowing. do you hear name of file then txt, docx,
mp3, etc or do you just hear the name?  Having Windows
announce extensions is very important as a blind user.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
GeneThis is part of Windowqs basics, something I said might
save you a lot of trouble if you learned more of.  I'm not
pressuring you.  You From: Carolyn Arnold
<mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 7:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Windows 10, JAWS 18.

Thank you, Gene and everybody for your forbearance and your
help with this. I changed from Plain Text to HTML, and the
attachment issue was the exact same. I remember that used
to, there would be two attachments or more, and I would
Arrow then open. Only one shows, and no matter what I do, it
just shows the attachment title. I did as Ann suggested and
from the message, went to Save Attachment, or Alt FM, and
saved it. That is one thing I just love about the ribbons,
they tell you keystrokes to use to get from point A to point
B.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

I don't know to what extent you wish to pursue this.  Here
are my thoughts after seeing the entire thread over the last
few days:
If the message isn't private, you could forward it to
someone off list and see if that person can open it.  Also,
are the attachments you can't open all of the same
extension? 
 
Regarding not being able to open the attachments from the
keyboard, I doubt this has anything to do with JAWS but that
needs to be tested.  Opening attachments has nothing to do
with what a screen-reader does.  Why only certain
attachments, which is why I asked about the extension?  I'm
trying to see if there is a commonality.  Also, are you
reading mail as html or as plain text?  You said that when
you saved the attachment, you got a copy of the e-mails.
That causes me to think that you are reading mail as plain
text.  If you do that, you will often see an html attachment
of the message content.  In your case, if you are reading
mail as plain text, you should have seen two attachments.
There should have been a list in the save attachments
dialog.  You would have up and down arrowed to the
attachment you wanted to save, then saved it.  Or at least,
that's what you do in save attachments in programs I've
worked with.  Try saving the attachment again, tab around
the entire save attachments dialog and see if there is a
save attachments list.  Up and down arrow in the list.  Do
you see more than one attachment?  If not, try left and
right arrowing.  There may be something going on that is
keeping you from opening certain attachments.  But as yet,
we have so little information about the nature of the
attachments that we can form no hypothesis about what, if
anything, they may have in common and what possible remedy,
if any, we might propose.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 2:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Thanks, Ann. When I Shift Tabbed and got on the attachment,
I pressed Alt-F and went to Save as, and said an
attachment.doc. So in Documents, I found the emails back and
forth to this person, not the attachment.

Furthermore, this one, I have copied, because it is
important, but whatever my cousin sends, I do not care
enough to bother with trying to save it then go over to
documents to read it. I get around 500 emails a day, so her
attachments are not a high priority.

I won't give up on this, but won't agonize. If I can't have
it, too bad, there's a whole big world out there. However, I
think it is a gyp on the money I spent. Regardless of what I
think, it just is what it is.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 7:24 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Hi all,

No, it's not the context menu!  It's the alt-f, some call it
backstage, menu!  The context menu will not do what you want
it to do.  There is nothing wrong with Jaws except that it's
top heavy with so many add-ons and junk it's hardly
recognizable as a screen reader.  Jaws is reading exactly
what is there.  <smiling>  In this case it's behaving
correctly.

If you want to open the attachment, merely do a shift-tab
when in the message and when it says attachments, use the
right arrow to see the list and open the attachment by
pressing enter on it.

If you want to save the attachment, do an alt-f and go down
to save-attachment and follow the prompt.  If you don't
change it, it will save the attachment in documents which is
under This PC in win10.

It sure doesn't help if you get wrong information.  Again,
it's *not* the context menu, it's the alt-f to go to
backstage or file menu or
whatever you call it.   Sheesh!

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@... <mailto:akp@...>
<mailto:akp@...> Author of The
Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."

















Re: sling tv accessibility

brian
 

    I am on my friends netflix account and when you turn on audio discription it's on until you turn it off so what ever show or movie you play you will hear dvs if there is dvs.

Brian Sackrider


On 7/26/2018 12:40 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
the only reason I keep cable is because none of the online live tv services such as youtube tv or sling tv let you turn on and off the SAP second audio channel for other languages and descriptive video service. until they do that, I will keep my xfinity or comcast cable service. because with xfinity and other services like direct-tv, at least i can turn on and off sap, and get shows with descriptive video which may not otherwise be available on netflix or amazon prime video. 


Re: Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Gene
 

Use an earlier portable version of Firefox for sites where you need to fill in a captcha.  Use your other current browser or browsers for general browsing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Hi

I have up-graded to latest firefox, unfortunately, neither captcha be gone or rumola work or can be installed with the version I am using. I tried to install captcha be gone but the file is corrupt and having messaged them, I have heard nothing back. I tried to install rumola this morning it is not supported. What do I do please? I am using windows 10 pro and firefox 62 I think.

Regards

Adrien

Skype with me on adriencollins06

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: 02 August 2018 20:39
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Solving CAPTCHAs with Rumola

Hi.  Thanks for this.  I didn't think Webvism worked with that version of Firefox.


Now I have what may be a very dumb question. . . . how do i install this
file?  When i press enter, Windows wants to know what program I want to
use to open the file.  If I extract the files using 7Zip, I get a list
of files that I have no clue how to work with.


Should I be looking for some kind of executable file?


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/2/2018 2:37 AM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:
>









about TWPE

Carlo Flores <chfcarlo@...>
 

Hello, I'm asking you guys if there's a latest update about Talking
windows preinstallation environment (TWPE). I have here old version
last August 2016 from blindhelp.net. I'm wondering maybe it is not the
latest. Thank you in advance.


Re: I can't open attachments in Outlook 2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Carolyn Arnold
 

Do you have a basics tutorial? Is it for sale, or do you
make available to those who are interested. I'd be very
interested in Basics. Thank you.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Also, while looking at the message, I see that fragments of
the message I thought I had deleted were included after my
signature. While Windows Basics would help most people be
far better Windows users if they don't know them well, I
thought I had removed my comments on that because I had
discussed the topic before in the past with you and I didn't
see the point in repeating what I said again. You
considered what I said in the past and it's your decision.
also, depending on what you do and how you use the computer,
you may not see the point of spending time learning these
things in a systemnatic way unless you just enjoy doing so.
There are real advantages, not needingt voluminous notes not
needing to do a lot of rote memorization, being able to look
at various unfamiliar interfaces and see the underlying
structures and pretty much know how to work with them, but
if you are already doing what you want to do, know the
commands you usually want to use, and are not learning new
programs much, you may not want to spend the time.

Gene
-----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 6:57 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Thank you.

While I don't like responding to a compliment with a
criticism, this is something I think I should point out.

why don't you either quote the message you are referring to
or make a reference to it so people have an idea what you
are talking about. This thread is going on on two different
lists and I've sent many messages discussing the matter on
whicheever list I was responding to. I had to look in my
sent messages to figure out which message you are commenting
on.

And how are people who receive hundreds of messages daily
going to remember what message you are referring to in cases
where there is no way to know from the context?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Ann Parsons <mailto:akp@sero.email>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 6:36 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Hi all,

Gene, excellent post!

Ann P.

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Re: All sound randomly stopping on iPhone SE

Carolyn Arnold
 

I hope it all works out for you, Janet.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] All sound randomly stopping on
iPhone SE

Hi Carolyn,
Thank you so much. Like I said, I was on nomail with
blindtech, and as soon as I went on normal mail, is when I
noticed this blind talk list in which I did not subscribe
though. Such as life! Smile!
I will now go back on nomail with blindtech, and subscribe
back to blindtech to see if I will end up back on blind
talk!
Thank you again.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 7:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] All sound randomly stopping on
iPhone SE

Janet, this is Tech Talk. There is Blind Tech and Blind
Talk.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 7:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] All sound randomly stopping on
iPhone SE

Hi Everyone,

Ok, I just noticed the name of the list I sent this message
to. I thought this list was named blindtech, but now it is
blindtalk? I was on nomail for a while, so maybe some
changes?

Thank you for some clarification please.

Janet



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] All sound randomly stopping on
iPhone SE



HI Cristobal



I have to thank you for this, as I wouldn't have ever
thought of this one meaning paring a headphone to the phone
to bring back Voice over. I have been having similar
problems with my phone recently as well, and I was quite
concerned especially if the phone came back on by its self,
I would have to enter my security code, and I never have to
do that except only when I do a soft or a hard reset.
Although, I will try the paring headphone method next time!
I also have been having an issue with my phone 6 with the
latest update when doing a search in Apple music. When I do
a search in Apple music as I have done for at least 3 years
rather using dictation or the on screen keyboard, Voiceover
would read my request, but when I would tap on it, either
Voiceover would stop talking, or Voiceover would just ignore
when I would tap on the screen. I called Apple tech
support, and they looked at the screen I had open, and said
this is what they call a Voiceover coding problem. What
they said that means is Voiceover is reading the screen, but
just not in the order it should be reading. What that
basically means is Voiceover is not reading properly what is
on the screen.

The Apple rep also said he has seen this only 2 times, so he
will report it to the Apple engineer. To be continued! I
always say when people have issues with their Apple phones,
they should call Apple to let them know, because if no one
calls, they will never know, and nothing will be done.

Lots of luck!



Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 1:16 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] All sound randomly stopping on iPhone SE



Hello list,

So recently I've been dealing with an issue that's been
happening more and more. While using my iPhone SE, be it
dictating something or just regular navigating, all sound
will just stop. No Voiceover, no system sounds, no Siri,
nothing. Not even flicking the mute switch on the side of
the phone. Not even the little vibration thing it's supposed
to do.

Anyway, the first few times this happened, I was worried
that my phone bricked or died or something. I soon
discovered that I could get sound back by paring some
headphones or plugging in headphones with the jack. VO would
be right there as if nothing happened.

Anyway, now when this occurs, I know to not freak out, but
rather just pare some headphones to get Voiceover back and
then disconnect the same headphones and then press the
volume up button on the side of my phone and VO will soon
start blasting out of the speaker. That and the vibration
will come back on the mute switch if I flick it back and
forth.

This was pretty rare and I figured it was just one of those
random whatever things that happens when you're dealing with
tech, but for the past ten or so days to two weeks, it's
been happening nearly every day and sometimes multiple times
a day. ON a side note, I've also been getting the power off
screen without pressing and holding down the power button. I
don't know if I'm pressing some other button/tap combination
to bring it up, but I don't recall it just showing up like
that before.

Has anyone else dealt with this issue? I checked my phone's
battery health and it's saying that it's at 94% and is still
supporting peak performance for whatever that's worth. I was
thinking of taking it in later this year to take advantage
of the battery replacement program since it's going on two
years that I've had it so I don't know if this may have
anything to do with it.

Running the latest iOS 11.4.1.

Thanks,

Cristobal


Re: I can't open attachments in Outlook 2013, Windows 10, JAWS 18.

Carolyn Arnold
 

I just switch back to Plain Text, based on your opinion.
Whenever I save I always put dot docs as an extension so
that it will be a Word file.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Windows 10, JAWS 18.

You don't have to switch to html. You will be a better
Windows user if you try this using plain text. There are
two attachments in the message. Select the one you want in
the list. Then save it. Before, you saved the wrong attac
hment. In HTML, there is onley one attachment, In plain
text, if the writer has added a attachment, you will often
see two. Do you have your Windows set to tell you file
extensions? When you are in file explorer and you are up
and down arrowing. do you hear name of file then txt, docx,
mp3, etc or do you just hear the name? Having Windows
announce extensions is very important as a blind user.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
GeneThis is part of Windowqs basics, something I said might
save you a lot of trouble if you learned more of. I'm not
pressuring you. You From: Carolyn Arnold
<mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 7:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Windows 10, JAWS 18.

Thank you, Gene and everybody for your forbearance and your
help with this. I changed from Plain Text to HTML, and the
attachment issue was the exact same. I remember that used
to, there would be two attachments or more, and I would
Arrow then open. Only one shows, and no matter what I do, it
just shows the attachment title. I did as Ann suggested and
from the message, went to Save Attachment, or Alt FM, and
saved it. That is one thing I just love about the ribbons,
they tell you keystrokes to use to get from point A to point
B.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

I don't know to what extent you wish to pursue this. Here
are my thoughts after seeing the entire thread over the last
few days:
If the message isn't private, you could forward it to
someone off list and see if that person can open it. Also,
are the attachments you can't open all of the same
extension?

Regarding not being able to open the attachments from the
keyboard, I doubt this has anything to do with JAWS but that
needs to be tested. Opening attachments has nothing to do
with what a screen-reader does. Why only certain
attachments, which is why I asked about the extension? I'm
trying to see if there is a commonality. Also, are you
reading mail as html or as plain text? You said that when
you saved the attachment, you got a copy of the e-mails.
That causes me to think that you are reading mail as plain
text. If you do that, you will often see an html attachment
of the message content. In your case, if you are reading
mail as plain text, you should have seen two attachments.
There should have been a list in the save attachments
dialog. You would have up and down arrowed to the
attachment you wanted to save, then saved it. Or at least,
that's what you do in save attachments in programs I've
worked with. Try saving the attachment again, tab around
the entire save attachments dialog and see if there is a
save attachments list. Up and down arrow in the list. Do
you see more than one attachment? If not, try left and
right arrowing. There may be something going on that is
keeping you from opening certain attachments. But as yet,
we have so little information about the nature of the
attachments that we can form no hypothesis about what, if
anything, they may have in common and what possible remedy,
if any, we might propose.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 2:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Thanks, Ann. When I Shift Tabbed and got on the attachment,
I pressed Alt-F and went to Save as, and said an
attachment.doc. So in Documents, I found the emails back and
forth to this person, not the attachment.

Furthermore, this one, I have copied, because it is
important, but whatever my cousin sends, I do not care
enough to bother with trying to save it then go over to
documents to read it. I get around 500 emails a day, so her
attachments are not a high priority.

I won't give up on this, but won't agonize. If I can't have
it, too bad, there's a whole big world out there. However, I
think it is a gyp on the money I spent. Regardless of what I
think, it just is what it is.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 7:24 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I can't open attachments in Outlook
2013, Winsows 10, JAWS 18.

Hi all,

No, it's not the context menu! It's the alt-f, some call it
backstage, menu! The context menu will not do what you want
it to do. There is nothing wrong with Jaws except that it's
top heavy with so many add-ons and junk it's hardly
recognizable as a screen reader. Jaws is reading exactly
what is there. <smiling> In this case it's behaving
correctly.

If you want to open the attachment, merely do a shift-tab
when in the message and when it says attachments, use the
right arrow to see the list and open the attachment by
pressing enter on it.

If you want to save the attachment, do an alt-f and go down
to save-attachment and follow the prompt. If you don't
change it, it will save the attachment in documents which is
under This PC in win10.

It sure doesn't help if you get wrong information. Again,
it's *not* the context menu, it's the alt-f to go to
backstage or file menu or
whatever you call it. Sheesh!

Ann P.

--
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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email <mailto:akp@sero.email>
<mailto:akp@sero.email> Author of The
Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."

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