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Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Janet
 

Hey Allen,
Are you the same Allen I think you are? If so, Wow, it's been many years since I've talked to you! Smile! Thank you for this information, but I also talked to ATT about this program a few years ago, and they said this is for people with low fixed income only though, so I couldn't apply for that either. ATT says this is the way they help people to save money, but I would end up spending much more than I'm spending now.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Allen West
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:59 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Janet, If you are on a fixed income, ATT will give you wifi and
internet service for $10 per month. I have several clients using ATT
for that purpose.

Allen

On 8/16/18, janet gross <janet.harvard@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at home without ATT
internet service? I just received another raise from ATT in which is $55
instead of $42, and they say they have no promotions going on, and might not
for a while either. I don't like paying $55 just to search online. I can
use my phone to do this. Matter of fact, I just use my cellular service on
my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet





Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Janet
 

Donna,
I'm glad to hear you are not having any problems with ATT, and as for myself, I've used ATT at least 30 years if not more. ATT told me this $55 is for the cheapest promotion and internet speed they have. I do not want TV or cellular with ATT though. So if this is the only way to save with ATT, this is very wrong. People should not have to be forced in to paying for something they don't even want. There is no way I'm going to pay for TV or switch from my phone carrier to ATT just to lose money.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donna
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Janet,

I have been an AT&T customer for 20 years. I, so far have only received great customer service. With that said; The $55 a month is the standard,, non promotional cost for AT&T’s fastest DSL internet service. AT&T’s fiberoptic hasn’t made it to my area of town yet. I cancelled my DSL internet in July. The fastest speed with 4-5 people streaming or surfing the web couldn’t support the use. I now have Spectrum for my internet. I pay $70 for internet only. AT&T has allowed me to keep my bellsouth.net email address without any cost to me. I have Direct Tv & cell phone service with AT&T. There is 2 phones, a Gear S watch & 2 iPads on my cell phone bill. I pay a total of $179 for Direct Tv & cell phone service, unlimited talk/text & 20G of rollover data. This cost would decrease by $15 if I were to upgrade to unlimited talk/text & data, but this would mean giving up HotSpot & that won’t work for us. Bundling services does help lower the monthly cost. Sorry you aren’t happy with AT&T. Guess they are saving their good customer service for me. HaaHaa!

Donna

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at home without ATT internet service? I just received another raise from ATT in which is $55 instead of $42, and they say they have no promotions going on, and might not for a while either. I don't like paying $55 just to search online. I can use my phone to do this. Matter of fact, I just use my cellular service on my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet




Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Donna
 

Janet,

I have been an AT&T customer for 20 years. I, so far have only received great customer service. With that said; The $55 a month is the standard,, non promotional cost for AT&T’s fastest DSL internet service. AT&T’s fiberoptic hasn’t made it to my area of town yet. I cancelled my DSL internet in July. The fastest speed with 4-5 people streaming or surfing the web couldn’t support the use. I now have Spectrum for my internet. I pay $70 for internet only. AT&T has allowed me to keep my bellsouth.net email address without any cost to me. I have Direct Tv & cell phone service with AT&T. There is 2 phones, a Gear S watch & 2 iPads on my cell phone bill. I pay a total of $179 for Direct Tv & cell phone service, unlimited talk/text & 20G of rollover data. This cost would decrease by $15 if I were to upgrade to unlimited talk/text & data, but this would mean giving up HotSpot & that won’t work for us. Bundling services does help lower the monthly cost. Sorry you aren’t happy with AT&T. Guess they are saving their good customer service for me. HaaHaa!

Donna

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at home without ATT internet service? I just received another raise from ATT in which is $55 instead of $42, and they say they have no promotions going on, and might not for a while either. I don't like paying $55 just to search online. I can use my phone to do this. Matter of fact, I just use my cellular service on my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet




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Sadam Ahmed <lists@...>
 

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I am working with someone that would like to give me remote help, but doesn't use JAWS.

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Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

TerriLynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
 

Hi Allen,
Do you know which A T&T department handles that service for people on fixed incomes?

TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Allen West
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:59 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Janet, If you are on a fixed income, ATT will give you wifi and internet service for $10 per month. I have several clients using ATT for that purpose.

Allen

On 8/16/18, janet gross <janet.harvard@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at home
without ATT internet service? I just received another raise from ATT
in which is $55 instead of $42, and they say they have no promotions
going on, and might not for a while either. I don't like paying $55
just to search online. I can use my phone to do this. Matter of
fact, I just use my cellular service on my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet





Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

TerriLynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
 

CenturyLink was once part of A T&T, then became Mountain Bell, then maybe something else, then Qwest, and now is CenturyLink. Because of their beginnings, they have a lot of landline service. They also bundle DirecTV. And they do internet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

What is Century Link. I think that is what my son said they have. They have only cell phones and Net Flicks.

Their emails are Rocketmail and stuff like that.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

I'm in a good-sized town, but I'm not in a great location for getting over the air signals, due to trees and hills. But I can get what I want via a streaming service, or even 2 of them, for less than what AT&T is now charging after they raised the roof on my supposed 2-year pricing deal. We have to pay ridiculous charges for internet too, since, unlike the lucky folks back East, there is no competition for monopoly Comcast internet out here. It is amazing how their prices go down when they face real competition, but that's another thread.




Mary



On 8/16/2018 5:38 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:


I’m way out in the sticks and absolutely no antenna will do anything out here. otherwise I would get unwire in a heartbeat.

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

We got DIRECTV about a year and a half ago on a really good deal. Unfortunately, the really good deal has turned into a mess. I can’t wait to get out. Goodbye AT&T and satellite TV. We have had dish. Not so great. I guess it’s better now than it used to be. But I am going to be a cord cutter.



On Aug 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@...> wrote:



TerriLynn,
I just switche from Direct tv/ATT because of the rise in costs. I got frustrated with them and their total lack of consideration and the inability of customer servvice to get me to the right place. I have dish coming tomorrow for hook up. Direct was supposed to have set me up on a lower cost last week and all they did was mess up my internet and left without ever showing me how to get the cable to talk. I hope you have better luck with them than I did. I told them the main reason I was leaving them is I was tired of calling for service anjd no one understanding english enough to get me to the correct system.
Dave

From: TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.


I use DirecTV. Their prices have gone up and up since A T & T bought them out. Through a few frustrated phone calls, I was put in touch with a “loyalty” department, and they dropped my bill nearly in half. But I am guessing that that was a loyalty to DirecTV program and not an A T & T program.



TerriLynne





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.



Gerald,

ATT is telling me the cheapest service they have is $55 a month. I can’t imagine this. I just hung up the phone from calling them once again asking for another promotion, and they keep insisting if I use their cell or TV service, they can then offer me a better deal. I only have until the fourth of Sept to decide, and if not, they will charge me another $55. Damn it sounds like they are penalizing me for not using their TV or cell service! It stinks!

ATT just offered me if I switch to use their cell service, they would give me a SE iPhone completely free, and if I didn’t want that, they would give me an iPhone 8 as well as another iPhone 8 completely free, and if I wanted an iPhone 10, they would give me another iPhone 10 completely free. I keep telling them I am happy with my current phone carrier, so then is when they tell me they have no cheaper internet service for me! I definitely would like to get away from ATT though.

Janet

to use

Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.





Some ISP’s will no longer allow residential customers to downgrade to slo Internet DSL service if faster and more expensive fiber optic service is available where they live.



Gerald







From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:17 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.



Wi-Fi is a way to communicate over short distances between a router and a device such as a computer. It is a means of radio communication to allow you to do things without being physically connected to the modem or router by a cable. that's all it is. You can have an Internet connection without Wi-Fi. You could have a Wi-Fi connection without Internet service but it would be useless. Your computer would be connected to the router and the router would not be connected to the Internet. It would be like being connected with a cable to your router and your router not being connected to the Internet.



You must have an Internet service provider. If you don't want much in the way of Internet Service, find out what the very slowest plan is that AT&T offers. I don't know if it is still available, but my parents had a very slow DSL service for years that they paid something like 14 dollars a month for. If you do nothing but e-mail and look at web pages, that plan may be adequate. I don't know if the plan is fast enough to allow streaming of audio but you indicate you just want to do Internet searches, which implies that you just want to look at web pages and use e-mail.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:31 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.



I you have unlimited data on your cell, Janet, that will
work, but if you have limited data like we do, well, I guess
we pay one way or another.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:23 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at
home without ATT internet service? I just received another
raise from ATT in which is $55 instead of $42, and they say
they have no promotions going on, and might not for a while
either. I don't like paying $55 just to search online. I
can use my phone to do this. Matter of fact, I just use my
cellular service on my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet


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Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Janet
 

Thank you Gene for this, as I will most definitely check this out. 

Janet

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

See this page:

a lot of companies are listed.  I saw a plan for something like nineteen dollars from a small provider but the provider only covers something like twenty-one percent of the city.  Perhaps you will find some companies you will want to look into. 

 

The plan is rather or quite slow but for your uses, it sounds adequate. 

 

I have no idea whether companies can provide service whether you are using fiber optic cable or copper wire or whether the kind of connection limits you to companies that can serve one kind of connection but not the other.  I don't have the technical knowledge to know if it makes any difference. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:51 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Also, as far as penelizing you is concerned, you save money if you bundle services.  If you don't, you spend more.  I don't know if it's fair or makes sense but that's how these things are done. 

 

Believe it or not, some people still choose to use dial-up service.  I checked the company I had a dial-up account with in the nineties, before DSL became widespread.  It's a small company and it still provides dial-up service.  The cost is twenty dollars.  If people pay twenty dollars for dial-up service, then how much less can you get DSL for than 55 dollars?  I don't know.  Would you be satisfied with paying forty dollars if you could find a small provider who might charge that price?  While I don't know this, I suspect you are chasing a fantom if you expect significant savings.  forty dollars a month is nice but fifteen dollars saved a month is hardly a bonanza. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:33 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Gerald,

ATT is telling me the cheapest service they have is $55 a month.  I can’t imagine this.  I just hung up the phone from calling them once again asking for another promotion, and they keep insisting if I use their cell or TV service, they can then offer me a better deal.  I only have until the fourth of Sept to decide, and if not, they will charge me another $55.  Damn it sounds like they are penalizing me for not using their TV or cell service!  It stinks! 

ATT just offered me if I switch to use their cell service, they would give me a SE iPhone completely free, and if I didn’t want that, they would give me an iPhone 8 as well as another iPhone 8 completely free, and if I wanted an iPhone 10, they would give me another iPhone 10 completely free.  I keep telling them I am happy with my current phone carrier, so then is when they tell me they have no cheaper internet service for me!  I definitely would like to get away from ATT though. 

Janet

to use

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

 

Some ISP’s will no longer allow residential customers to downgrade to slo Internet DSL service if faster and more expensive fiber optic service is available where they live.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Wi-Fi is a way to communicate over short distances between a router and a device such as a computer.  It is a means of radio communication to allow you to do things without being physically connected to the modem or router by a cable.  that's all it is.  You can have an Internet connection without Wi-Fi.  You could have a Wi-Fi connection without Internet service but it would be useless.  Your computer would be connected to the router and the router would not be connected to the Internet.  It would be like being connected with a cable to your router and your router not being connected to the Internet. 

 

You must have an Internet service provider.  If you don't want much in the way of Internet Service, find out what the very slowest plan is that AT&T offers.  I don't know if it is still available, but my parents had a very slow DSL service for years that they paid something like 14 dollars a month for.  If you do nothing but e-mail and look at web pages, that plan may be adequate.  I don't know if the plan is fast enough to allow streaming of audio but you indicate you just want to do Internet searches, which implies that you just want to look at web pages and use e-mail.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

I you have unlimited data on your cell, Janet, that will
work, but if you have limited data like we do, well, I guess
we pay one way or another.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:23 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at
home without ATT internet service? I just received another
raise from ATT in which is $55 instead of $42, and they say
they have no promotions going on, and might not for a while
either.  I don't like paying $55 just to search online.  I
can use my phone to do this.  Matter of fact, I just use my
cellular service on my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet






Re: FW: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

Janet
 

Gene,

This is exactly what happened to me.  After my promotion was up, they raised my monthly fees, and each month they will go up until I pick a promotion. 

ATT told me this several times if I don’t sign up for their cellular or TV service they cannot give me a cheaper promotion. Yes, they did say I could save money if I use their cellular or TV service, that is the only way I can save, but as I told them I do not want TV-Cellular service with them, and I should not be forced in to paying for TV-cellular service, bottom line, I don’t want the other services, and I should have the right to decide what I want to pay for and what I do not want to pay for.  If I signed up for their TV and cellular services like they want me to, I would be paying over $60 more than what I am now paying.  Not good! 

I pay my phone carrier $50 a month for all I need, but ATT wants me to pay for the same service of $85 just for my phone, I would have to be out of my mind, as I would be losing money. 

 

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

 

But this is about an unfair raise after a promotional period.  You are complaining that you can only save money if you bundle.  That is standard practice and, unless you are being told that your rate will go up and being urged to bundle to save money, this isn't anyone trying to force you to do anything.  Bundling and providing lower prices for the combined services than for any one service alone is an industry wide practice.  I don't recall you saying you are going to have a price rise.  You say you want to save money and have been told that the only way to do so is bundling. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:11 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] FW: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

 



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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:04 AM
To: janet gross
Subject: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

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Re: FW: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

Janet
 

HI Carolyn,
Wow, you can get cable, phone, internet, for $67 a month? If so, that is a good deal, providing those services are what you want. I just want the internet service for the Wi-Fi, and AT wants to charge me $55 a month. Not good!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

We have a similar issue - cable, Internet, and they throw in phone bundle price; Internet and phone with Windstream, $67.29, I think most reasonable. Then we have cable with Spectrum for 8871. There is no feasible way for us to have Dish, which could be bundled with our phone and make the over bottom line less. With the phone, we get all the features and unlimited U>S. long distance. I check from time to time. Jim doesn't want to give up Windstream, because he doesn't want to change his email address.

I'd switch everything to Gmail, if I thought Outlook's message rules would apply, but I am not sure that they would.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

But this is about an unfair raise after a promotional period. You are complaining that you can only save money if you bundle. That is standard practice and, unless you are being told that your rate will go up and being urged to bundle to save money, this isn't anyone trying to force you to do anything. Bundling and providing lower prices for the combined services than for any one service alone is an industry wide practice. I don't recall you saying you are going to have a price rise. You say you want to save money and have been told that the only way to do so is bundling.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harvard@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:11 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <mailto:'main@TechTalk.groups.io'>
Subject: [TechTalk] FW: Has AT&T ever done this to you?



From: Rich Hetzer, CUB board member [mailto:actionnetwork@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:04 AM
To: janet gross
Subject: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

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Dear janet,

[Hetzer headshot.jpg]Today, I write to you not as a member of CUB’s board of directors, but as an Illinoisan who got a $200 credit on my AT&T bill, thanks to CUB.

Less than a year ago, AT&T suddenly tripled my Internet rate. (I knew the introductory price would eventually end, but didn’t expect my rate to skyrocket!)

After calling AT&T several times with no luck, I filed a complaint with CUB, and Consumer Rights Specialist Danielle Holmes contacted AT&T. Soon, AT&T's executive office called me, reduced my rate by $17 a month—and gave me a $200 credit!

But only half the credit was on my next bill. I called AT&T’s executive office and left a voicemail. In fact, I left voicemail messages for seven consecutive business days. No answer. Then I left one more voicemail: "This is Rich Hetzer, director on the Citizens Utility Board—Illinois. Please return my call."

Within three minutes, AT&T called back. The remaining $100 credit was included on my next bill.

Imagine that: After waiting days to hear back from AT&T, I mention CUB once, and it takes just minutes to get a response. This is why I believe CUB Illinois is the strongest utility board in the nation!

In addition to helping thousands of individual customers each year, CUB is busy fighting billions of dollars in constant, unnecessary rate hikes. That’s why we depend on your involvement.

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Your support allows us to maintain the level of service that has helped CUB save Illinois consumers more than $20 billion over the last 35 years.

Thank you,

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Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Carolyn Arnold
 

What is Century Link. I think that is what my son said they have. They have only cell phones and Net Flicks.

Their emails are Rocketmail and stuff like that.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

I'm in a good-sized town, but I'm not in a great location for getting over the air signals, due to trees and hills. But I can get what I want via a streaming service, or even 2 of them, for less than what AT&T is now charging after they raised the roof on my supposed 2-year pricing deal. We have to pay ridiculous charges for internet too, since, unlike the lucky folks back East, there is no competition for monopoly Comcast internet out here. It is amazing how their prices go down when they face real competition, but that's another thread.




Mary



On 8/16/2018 5:38 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:


I’m way out in the sticks and absolutely no antenna will do anything out here. otherwise I would get unwire in a heartbeat.

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

We got DIRECTV about a year and a half ago on a really good deal. Unfortunately, the really good deal has turned into a mess. I can’t wait to get out. Goodbye AT&T and satellite TV. We have had dish. Not so great. I guess it’s better now than it used to be. But I am going to be a cord cutter.



On Aug 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@...> wrote:



TerriLynn,
I just switche from Direct tv/ATT because of the rise in costs. I got frustrated with them and their total lack of consideration and the inability of customer servvice to get me to the right place. I have dish coming tomorrow for hook up. Direct was supposed to have set me up on a lower cost last week and all they did was mess up my internet and left without ever showing me how to get the cable to talk. I hope you have better luck with them than I did. I told them the main reason I was leaving them is I was tired of calling for service anjd no one understanding english enough to get me to the correct system.
Dave

From: TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.


I use DirecTV. Their prices have gone up and up since A T & T bought them out. Through a few frustrated phone calls, I was put in touch with a “loyalty” department, and they dropped my bill nearly in half. But I am guessing that that was a loyalty to DirecTV program and not an A T & T program.



TerriLynne





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.



Gerald,

ATT is telling me the cheapest service they have is $55 a month. I can’t imagine this. I just hung up the phone from calling them once again asking for another promotion, and they keep insisting if I use their cell or TV service, they can then offer me a better deal. I only have until the fourth of Sept to decide, and if not, they will charge me another $55. Damn it sounds like they are penalizing me for not using their TV or cell service! It stinks!

ATT just offered me if I switch to use their cell service, they would give me a SE iPhone completely free, and if I didn’t want that, they would give me an iPhone 8 as well as another iPhone 8 completely free, and if I wanted an iPhone 10, they would give me another iPhone 10 completely free. I keep telling them I am happy with my current phone carrier, so then is when they tell me they have no cheaper internet service for me! I definitely would like to get away from ATT though.

Janet

to use

Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.





Some ISP’s will no longer allow residential customers to downgrade to slo Internet DSL service if faster and more expensive fiber optic service is available where they live.



Gerald







From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:17 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.



Wi-Fi is a way to communicate over short distances between a router and a device such as a computer. It is a means of radio communication to allow you to do things without being physically connected to the modem or router by a cable. that's all it is. You can have an Internet connection without Wi-Fi. You could have a Wi-Fi connection without Internet service but it would be useless. Your computer would be connected to the router and the router would not be connected to the Internet. It would be like being connected with a cable to your router and your router not being connected to the Internet.



You must have an Internet service provider. If you don't want much in the way of Internet Service, find out what the very slowest plan is that AT&T offers. I don't know if it is still available, but my parents had a very slow DSL service for years that they paid something like 14 dollars a month for. If you do nothing but e-mail and look at web pages, that plan may be adequate. I don't know if the plan is fast enough to allow streaming of audio but you indicate you just want to do Internet searches, which implies that you just want to look at web pages and use e-mail.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:31 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.



I you have unlimited data on your cell, Janet, that will
work, but if you have limited data like we do, well, I guess
we pay one way or another.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:23 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at
home without ATT internet service? I just received another
raise from ATT in which is $55 instead of $42, and they say
they have no promotions going on, and might not for a while
either. I don't like paying $55 just to search online. I
can use my phone to do this. Matter of fact, I just use my
cellular service on my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet


Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Allen West
 

Janet, If you are on a fixed income, ATT will give you wifi and
internet service for $10 per month. I have several clients using ATT
for that purpose.

Allen

On 8/16/18, janet gross <janet.harvard@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at home without ATT
internet service? I just received another raise from ATT in which is $55
instead of $42, and they say they have no promotions going on, and might not
for a while either. I don't like paying $55 just to search online. I can
use my phone to do this. Matter of fact, I just use my cellular service on
my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet





Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Carolyn Arnold
 

We had to get a router to have Wi-Fi. We are leasing it, oh
yes, and that is in that $67.49 bill. Well, anyway, the
reason we leased it is because we thought it was worth it,
since if anything went wrong, they could so easily blame
whatever the problem might be on the router box, which would
not be their equipment.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Gene,

The question is could I have Wi-Fi without internet or ATT.
The bottom line, ATT is ripping me off, as I'm sure they
have done it to others for many years! One might think with
all this new technology, Wi-Fi just might be available. I'm
also wondering about Hotspot on my phone, as I might be able
to turn Hotspot in to a Wi-Fi, but I don't know if I would
need Wi-Fi service connected with an internet service. I'm
not completely sure yet.

Janet

Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:31 PM
To: Gene; main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.



To clarify, the original question was based on a
misunderstanding of what Wi-Fi is. The question is really
about wired Internet service.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:28 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.



The question is about wired Internet Service. I don't know
anything about MVNOs and I don't know if money might be
saved when using a wireless device if one is used but that
is a different question from what was raised.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<mailto:ukekearuaro@...>

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:17 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.



Sis Janet, have you considered taking a look at an MVNO?
Or, is there something special you're getting fromAT&T?

I still use H2O WirelessNow, get 8GB data monthly, and pay
$36 with autopay.
I can access the Internet and whatever else floats my boat
on my Shiny Android toys. Oh, I also get $20 extra free
cash for international calls!
No, this doesn't give me enough talk time to certain
countries; however, when it runs out, Google Duo does the
trick for me. I don't have cable, not too much into tv and,
if that ever changes, I think I'll take a good look at
YouTube Tv which I'll be able to access on my Shiny Android
toys! So, for me, no need for a tv box! If I can do it all
on my toys that's my better preference until my tastes
change.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Dave Mitchel
 

I would have better luck geting service from canada than from seattle. the Olympic Mountains are blocking signals here.
 

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.
 

I'm in a good-sized town, but I'm not in a great location for getting over the air signals, due to trees and hills. But I can get what I want via a streaming service, or even 2 of them, for less than what AT&T is now charging after they raised the roof on my supposed 2-year pricing deal. We have to pay ridiculous charges for internet too, since, unlike the lucky folks back East, there is no competition for monopoly Comcast internet out here. It is amazing how their prices go down when they face real competition, but that's another thread.

 

Mary


On 8/16/2018 5:38 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:
I’m way out in the sticks and absolutely no antenna will do anything out here. otherwise I would get unwire in a heartbeat.
 
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.
 
We got DIRECTV about a year and a half ago on a really good deal. Unfortunately, the really good deal has turned into a mess. I can’t wait to get out. Goodbye AT&T and satellite TV. We have had dish. Not so great. I guess it’s better now than it used to be. But I am going to be a cord cutter.



On Aug 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@...> wrote:

TerriLynn,
I just switche  from Direct tv/ATT because of the rise in costs. I got frustrated with them and their total lack of consideration and the inability of customer servvice to get me to the right place. I have dish coming tomorrow for hook up. Direct was supposed to have set me up on a lower cost last week and all they did was mess up my internet and left without ever showing me how to get the cable to talk. I hope you have better luck with them than I did. I told them the main reason I was leaving them is I was tired of calling for service anjd no one understanding english enough to get me to the correct system.
Dave
 
From: TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.
 

I use DirecTV. Their prices have gone up and up since A T & T bought them out. Through a few frustrated phone calls, I was put in touch with a “loyalty” department, and they dropped my bill nearly in half. But I am guessing that that was a loyalty to DirecTV program and not an A T & T program.

 

TerriLynne

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Gerald,

ATT is telling me the cheapest service they have is $55 a month.  I can’t imagine this.  I just hung up the phone from calling them once again asking for another promotion, and they keep insisting if I use their cell or TV service, they can then offer me a better deal.  I only have until the fourth of Sept to decide, and if not, they will charge me another $55.  Damn it sounds like they are penalizing me for not using their TV or cell service!  It stinks! 

ATT just offered me if I switch to use their cell service, they would give me a SE iPhone completely free, and if I didn’t want that, they would give me an iPhone 8 as well as another iPhone 8 completely free, and if I wanted an iPhone 10, they would give me another iPhone 10 completely free.  I keep telling them I am happy with my current phone carrier, so then is when they tell me they have no cheaper internet service for me!  I definitely would like to get away from ATT though. 

Janet

to use

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

 

Some ISP’s will no longer allow residential customers to downgrade to slo Internet DSL service if faster and more expensive fiber optic service is available where they live.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:17 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Wi-Fi is a way to communicate over short distances between a router and a device such as a computer.  It is a means of radio communication to allow you to do things without being physically connected to the modem or router by a cable.  that's all it is.  You can have an Internet connection without Wi-Fi.  You could have a Wi-Fi connection without Internet service but it would be useless.  Your computer would be connected to the router and the router would not be connected to the Internet.  It would be like being connected with a cable to your router and your router not being connected to the Internet. 

 

You must have an Internet service provider.  If you don't want much in the way of Internet Service, find out what the very slowest plan is that AT&T offers.  I don't know if it is still available, but my parents had a very slow DSL service for years that they paid something like 14 dollars a month for.  If you do nothing but e-mail and look at web pages, that plan may be adequate.  I don't know if the plan is fast enough to allow streaming of audio but you indicate you just want to do Internet searches, which implies that you just want to look at web pages and use e-mail.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:31 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

I you have unlimited data on your cell, Janet, that will
work, but if you have limited data like we do, well, I guess
we pay one way or another.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:23 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at
home without ATT internet service? I just received another
raise from ATT in which is $55 instead of $42, and they say
they have no promotions going on, and might not for a while
either.  I don't like paying $55 just to search online.  I
can use my phone to do this.  Matter of fact, I just use my
cellular service on my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet







Re: FW: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

Carolyn Arnold
 

We have a similar issue - cable, Internet, and they throw in phone bundle price; Internet and phone with Windstream, $67.29, I think most reasonable. Then we have cable with Spectrum for 8871. There is no feasible way for us to have Dish, which could be bundled with our phone and make the over bottom line less. With the phone, we get all the features and unlimited U>S. long distance. I check from time to time. Jim doesn't want to give up Windstream, because he doesn't want to change his email address.

I'd switch everything to Gmail, if I thought Outlook's message rules would apply, but I am not sure that they would.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

But this is about an unfair raise after a promotional period. You are complaining that you can only save money if you bundle. That is standard practice and, unless you are being told that your rate will go up and being urged to bundle to save money, this isn't anyone trying to force you to do anything. Bundling and providing lower prices for the combined services than for any one service alone is an industry wide practice. I don't recall you saying you are going to have a price rise. You say you want to save money and have been told that the only way to do so is bundling.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harvard@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:11 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <mailto:'main@TechTalk.groups.io'>
Subject: [TechTalk] FW: Has AT&T ever done this to you?



From: Rich Hetzer, CUB board member [mailto:actionnetwork@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:04 AM
To: janet gross
Subject: Has AT&T ever done this to you?

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Dear janet,

[Hetzer headshot.jpg]Today, I write to you not as a member of CUB’s board of directors, but as an Illinoisan who got a $200 credit on my AT&T bill, thanks to CUB.

Less than a year ago, AT&T suddenly tripled my Internet rate. (I knew the introductory price would eventually end, but didn’t expect my rate to skyrocket!)

After calling AT&T several times with no luck, I filed a complaint with CUB, and Consumer Rights Specialist Danielle Holmes contacted AT&T. Soon, AT&T's executive office called me, reduced my rate by $17 a month—and gave me a $200 credit!

But only half the credit was on my next bill. I called AT&T’s executive office and left a voicemail. In fact, I left voicemail messages for seven consecutive business days. No answer. Then I left one more voicemail: "This is Rich Hetzer, director on the Citizens Utility Board—Illinois. Please return my call."

Within three minutes, AT&T called back. The remaining $100 credit was included on my next bill.

Imagine that: After waiting days to hear back from AT&T, I mention CUB once, and it takes just minutes to get a response. This is why I believe CUB Illinois is the strongest utility board in the nation!

In addition to helping thousands of individual customers each year, CUB is busy fighting billions of dollars in constant, unnecessary rate hikes. That’s why we depend on your involvement.

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Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Dave Mitchel
 

lol, I am having that trouble right now with direct before they disconnect me tonight. not only a couple of seconds but it does not always go to the coreect channel. very strange things have been happening since they upgraded the box last week...I think they left me a poltergeist.  I tried to go to 13 for seattle news this morning and ended up somewhere other than the state of washington...I think it was the state of confusion. lol
 

From: TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.
 

My DirecTV is bundled with my local phone service. When I complained to my local phone service, they put me through to DirecTV’s loyalty number. The people at DirecTV couldn’t find it.

 

I didn’t like DISH. I know this is probably not a problem for others, but it took a couple of seconds to switch between channels, and I found that irksome.

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchel
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

TerriLynn,

I just switche  from Direct tv/ATT because of the rise in costs. I got frustrated with them and their total lack of consideration and the inability of customer servvice to get me to the right place. I have dish coming tomorrow for hook up. Direct was supposed to have set me up on a lower cost last week and all they did was mess up my internet and left without ever showing me how to get the cable to talk. I hope you have better luck with them than I did. I told them the main reason I was leaving them is I was tired of calling for service anjd no one understanding english enough to get me to the correct system.

Dave

 

From: TerriLynne Pomeroy

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:54 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

I use DirecTV. Their prices have gone up and up since A T & T bought them out. Through a few frustrated phone calls, I was put in touch with a “loyalty” department, and they dropped my bill nearly in half. But I am guessing that that was a loyalty to DirecTV program and not an A T & T program.

 

TerriLynne

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Gerald,

ATT is telling me the cheapest service they have is $55 a month.  I can’t imagine this.  I just hung up the phone from calling them once again asking for another promotion, and they keep insisting if I use their cell or TV service, they can then offer me a better deal.  I only have until the fourth of Sept to decide, and if not, they will charge me another $55.  Damn it sounds like they are penalizing me for not using their TV or cell service!  It stinks! 

ATT just offered me if I switch to use their cell service, they would give me a SE iPhone completely free, and if I didn’t want that, they would give me an iPhone 8 as well as another iPhone 8 completely free, and if I wanted an iPhone 10, they would give me another iPhone 10 completely free.  I keep telling them I am happy with my current phone carrier, so then is when they tell me they have no cheaper internet service for me!  I definitely would like to get away from ATT though. 

Janet

to use

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

 

Some ISP’s will no longer allow residential customers to downgrade to slo Internet DSL service if faster and more expensive fiber optic service is available where they live.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:17 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Wi-Fi is a way to communicate over short distances between a router and a device such as a computer.  It is a means of radio communication to allow you to do things without being physically connected to the modem or router by a cable.  that's all it is.  You can have an Internet connection without Wi-Fi.  You could have a Wi-Fi connection without Internet service but it would be useless.  Your computer would be connected to the router and the router would not be connected to the Internet.  It would be like being connected with a cable to your router and your router not being connected to the Internet. 

 

You must have an Internet service provider.  If you don't want much in the way of Internet Service, find out what the very slowest plan is that AT&T offers.  I don't know if it is still available, but my parents had a very slow DSL service for years that they paid something like 14 dollars a month for.  If you do nothing but e-mail and look at web pages, that plan may be adequate.  I don't know if the plan is fast enough to allow streaming of audio but you indicate you just want to do Internet searches, which implies that you just want to look at web pages and use e-mail.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:31 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

I you have unlimited data on your cell, Janet, that will
work, but if you have limited data like we do, well, I guess
we pay one way or another.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:23 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at
home without ATT internet service? I just received another
raise from ATT in which is $55 instead of $42, and they say
they have no promotions going on, and might not for a while
either.  I don't like paying $55 just to search online.  I
can use my phone to do this.  Matter of fact, I just use my
cellular service on my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet





Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Mary Otten <maryotten@...>
 

I'm in a good-sized town, but I'm not in a great location for getting over the air signals, due to trees and hills. But I can get what I want via a streaming service, or even 2 of them, for less than what AT&T is now charging after they raised the roof on my supposed 2-year pricing deal. We have to pay ridiculous charges for internet too, since, unlike the lucky folks back East, there is no competition for monopoly Comcast internet out here. It is amazing how their prices go down when they face real competition, but that's another thread.


Mary


On 8/16/2018 5:38 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:
I’m way out in the sticks and absolutely no antenna will do anything out here. otherwise I would get unwire in a heartbeat.
 
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.
 
We got DIRECTV about a year and a half ago on a really good deal. Unfortunately, the really good deal has turned into a mess. I can’t wait to get out. Goodbye AT&T and satellite TV. We have had dish. Not so great. I guess it’s better now than it used to be. But I am going to be a cord cutter.



On Aug 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@...> wrote:

TerriLynn,
I just switche  from Direct tv/ATT because of the rise in costs. I got frustrated with them and their total lack of consideration and the inability of customer servvice to get me to the right place. I have dish coming tomorrow for hook up. Direct was supposed to have set me up on a lower cost last week and all they did was mess up my internet and left without ever showing me how to get the cable to talk. I hope you have better luck with them than I did. I told them the main reason I was leaving them is I was tired of calling for service anjd no one understanding english enough to get me to the correct system.
Dave
 
From: TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.
 

I use DirecTV. Their prices have gone up and up since A T & T bought them out. Through a few frustrated phone calls, I was put in touch with a “loyalty” department, and they dropped my bill nearly in half. But I am guessing that that was a loyalty to DirecTV program and not an A T & T program.

 

TerriLynne

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Gerald,

ATT is telling me the cheapest service they have is $55 a month.  I can’t imagine this.  I just hung up the phone from calling them once again asking for another promotion, and they keep insisting if I use their cell or TV service, they can then offer me a better deal.  I only have until the fourth of Sept to decide, and if not, they will charge me another $55.  Damn it sounds like they are penalizing me for not using their TV or cell service!  It stinks! 

ATT just offered me if I switch to use their cell service, they would give me a SE iPhone completely free, and if I didn’t want that, they would give me an iPhone 8 as well as another iPhone 8 completely free, and if I wanted an iPhone 10, they would give me another iPhone 10 completely free.  I keep telling them I am happy with my current phone carrier, so then is when they tell me they have no cheaper internet service for me!  I definitely would like to get away from ATT though. 

Janet

to use

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

 

Some ISP’s will no longer allow residential customers to downgrade to slo Internet DSL service if faster and more expensive fiber optic service is available where they live.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:17 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Wi-Fi is a way to communicate over short distances between a router and a device such as a computer.  It is a means of radio communication to allow you to do things without being physically connected to the modem or router by a cable.  that's all it is.  You can have an Internet connection without Wi-Fi.  You could have a Wi-Fi connection without Internet service but it would be useless.  Your computer would be connected to the router and the router would not be connected to the Internet.  It would be like being connected with a cable to your router and your router not being connected to the Internet. 

 

You must have an Internet service provider.  If you don't want much in the way of Internet Service, find out what the very slowest plan is that AT&T offers.  I don't know if it is still available, but my parents had a very slow DSL service for years that they paid something like 14 dollars a month for.  If you do nothing but e-mail and look at web pages, that plan may be adequate.  I don't know if the plan is fast enough to allow streaming of audio but you indicate you just want to do Internet searches, which implies that you just want to look at web pages and use e-mail.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:31 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

I you have unlimited data on your cell, Janet, that will
work, but if you have limited data like we do, well, I guess
we pay one way or another.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:23 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at
home without ATT internet service? I just received another
raise from ATT in which is $55 instead of $42, and they say
they have no promotions going on, and might not for a while
either.  I don't like paying $55 just to search online.  I
can use my phone to do this.  Matter of fact, I just use my
cellular service on my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet







Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Janet
 

Gene,

The question is could I have Wi-Fi without internet or ATT.  The bottom line, ATT is ripping me off, as I’m sure they have done it to others for many years!  One might think with all this new technology, Wi-Fi just might be available.  I’m also wondering about Hotspot on my phone, as I might be able to turn Hotspot in to a Wi-Fi, but I don’t know if I would need Wi-Fi service connected with an internet service.  I’m not completely sure yet. 

Janet

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:31 PM
To: Gene; main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

To clarify, the original question was based on a misunderstanding of what Wi-Fi is.  The question is really about wired Internet service.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:28 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

The question is about wired Internet Service.  I don't know anything about MVNOs and I don't know if money might be saved when using a wireless device if one is used but that is a different question from what was raised.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Sis Janet, have you considered taking a look at an MVNO?  Or, is there
something special you're getting fromAT&T? 

I still use H2O WirelessNow, get 8GB data monthly, and pay $36 with autopay.
I can access the Internet and whatever else floats my boat on my Shiny
Android toys.  Oh, I also get $20 extra free cash for international calls!
No, this doesn't give me enough talk time to certain countries; however,
when it runs out, Google Duo does the trick for me.  I don't have cable, not
too much into tv and, if that ever changes, I think I'll take a good look at
YouTube Tv which I'll be able to access on my Shiny Android toys!  So, for
me, no need for a tv box!  If I can do it all on my toys that's my better
preference until my tastes change.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Dave Mitchel
 

I’m way out in the sticks and absolutely no antenna will do anything out here. otherwise I would get unwire in a heartbeat.
 

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.
 
We got DIRECTV about a year and a half ago on a really good deal. Unfortunately, the really good deal has turned into a mess. I can’t wait to get out. Goodbye AT&T and satellite TV. We have had dish. Not so great. I guess it’s better now than it used to be. But I am going to be a cord cutter.



On Aug 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@...> wrote:

TerriLynn,
I just switche  from Direct tv/ATT because of the rise in costs. I got frustrated with them and their total lack of consideration and the inability of customer servvice to get me to the right place. I have dish coming tomorrow for hook up. Direct was supposed to have set me up on a lower cost last week and all they did was mess up my internet and left without ever showing me how to get the cable to talk. I hope you have better luck with them than I did. I told them the main reason I was leaving them is I was tired of calling for service anjd no one understanding english enough to get me to the correct system.
Dave
 
From: TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.
 

I use DirecTV. Their prices have gone up and up since A T & T bought them out. Through a few frustrated phone calls, I was put in touch with a “loyalty” department, and they dropped my bill nearly in half. But I am guessing that that was a loyalty to DirecTV program and not an A T & T program.

 

TerriLynne

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Gerald,

ATT is telling me the cheapest service they have is $55 a month.  I can’t imagine this.  I just hung up the phone from calling them once again asking for another promotion, and they keep insisting if I use their cell or TV service, they can then offer me a better deal.  I only have until the fourth of Sept to decide, and if not, they will charge me another $55.  Damn it sounds like they are penalizing me for not using their TV or cell service!  It stinks! 

ATT just offered me if I switch to use their cell service, they would give me a SE iPhone completely free, and if I didn’t want that, they would give me an iPhone 8 as well as another iPhone 8 completely free, and if I wanted an iPhone 10, they would give me another iPhone 10 completely free.  I keep telling them I am happy with my current phone carrier, so then is when they tell me they have no cheaper internet service for me!  I definitely would like to get away from ATT though. 

Janet

to use

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

 

Some ISP’s will no longer allow residential customers to downgrade to slo Internet DSL service if faster and more expensive fiber optic service is available where they live.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:17 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

Wi-Fi is a way to communicate over short distances between a router and a device such as a computer.  It is a means of radio communication to allow you to do things without being physically connected to the modem or router by a cable.  that's all it is.  You can have an Internet connection without Wi-Fi.  You could have a Wi-Fi connection without Internet service but it would be useless.  Your computer would be connected to the router and the router would not be connected to the Internet.  It would be like being connected with a cable to your router and your router not being connected to the Internet. 

 

You must have an Internet service provider.  If you don't want much in the way of Internet Service, find out what the very slowest plan is that AT&T offers.  I don't know if it is still available, but my parents had a very slow DSL service for years that they paid something like 14 dollars a month for.  If you do nothing but e-mail and look at web pages, that plan may be adequate.  I don't know if the plan is fast enough to allow streaming of audio but you indicate you just want to do Internet searches, which implies that you just want to look at web pages and use e-mail.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:31 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

 

I you have unlimited data on your cell, Janet, that will
work, but if you have limited data like we do, well, I guess
we pay one way or another.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:23 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a way to have Wi-Fi service at
home without ATT internet service? I just received another
raise from ATT in which is $55 instead of $42, and they say
they have no promotions going on, and might not for a while
either.  I don't like paying $55 just to search online.  I
can use my phone to do this.  Matter of fact, I just use my
cellular service on my phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet






Re: Wi-Fi without internet service.

Janet
 

Hey Olusegun,
What is an MVNO? ? No I definitely do not get anything special from ATT. All I wanted was the Wi-Fi service from their internet. I can't stand AT and I never could. I don't care much for TV either, as I prefer to read books or watch my movies that I have on my computer. I want to eventually use my iPhone for all I can, as well as I want to buy an iPad. I'm slowly moving away from Windows.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wi-Fi without internet service.

Sis Janet, have you considered taking a look at an MVNO? Or, is there
something special you're getting fromAT&T?

I still use H2O WirelessNow, get 8GB data monthly, and pay $36 with autopay.
I can access the Internet and whatever else floats my boat on my Shiny
Android toys. Oh, I also get $20 extra free cash for international calls!
No, this doesn't give me enough talk time to certain countries; however,
when it runs out, Google Duo does the trick for me. I don't have cable, not
too much into tv and, if that ever changes, I think I'll take a good look at
YouTube Tv which I'll be able to access on my Shiny Android toys! So, for
me, no need for a tv box! If I can do it all on my toys that's my better
preference until my tastes change.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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