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Re: Thanks, Apple, for making it easy to cling to my iPhone 6S

Ann Marie Medlar
 

Good for you. I replaced my IPhone6 battery for $30 with Apple about 3 or 4
months ago.
Battery seems okay but I think new battery drains faster than old battery.
I upgraded to IOS 12 and so far all good.
I did not upgrade Ipad 4+ to IOS 12 because on Facebook in group for IPhone
apps for blind that someone lost all purchased apps.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
janet gross
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:16 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Thanks, Apple, for making it easy to cling to my iPhone
6S

Hi Everyone,
I came across this report, and I just wanted to share it with you all, so I
copied and pasted it below.
I am happy to know this!

Janet

Thanks, Apple, for making it easy to cling to my iPhone 6S, nothing rong
after 3 years -- thanks to iOS 12 and a free battery upgrade.
Still going strong after 3 years -- thanks to iOS 12 and a free battery
upgrade.

By
Chris Taylor
It's launch day for the iPhone XS and XS Max. And if it seems a little muted
compared to iPhone launch days past, that may be because Apple is making it
increasingly easy to hang on to your three-year-old phone instead - even if
they no longer sell that phone.
As I
wrote last week,
I was in the market for an XS. But I was torn: I'm one of those people who
believes the iPhone 6S is the last truly great iPhone Apple made.
I'm loath to swap my built-in headphone jack for a life in which I have to
carry around a Lightning-to- aux dongle just in case.

And yes, fanboys, before you jump in: I already use Bluetooth headphones! I
just like the option to plug in a wired set of cans - the same option I am
afforded on my latest-model iPad Pro and bang-up-to-date MacBook. Answer me
this, jackless iPhone owners: When you jump into a friend's car for a long
ride, want to play some tunes, and all they have is an aux cord, what do you
do? Hope you remembered your dongle and don't need to charge your phone at
the same time!
Still, for a hot moment, I felt compelled to give in to my inner early
adopter and get the latest thing. My 6S often drained fast, requiring me to
carry an external battery at all times or to live in Low Power Mode. Perhaps
I was being unreasonable.
Perhaps I could learn to live with dongles.
Perhaps I could even learn to live with FaceID, though it still seems an
unnecessary and insecure feature. I messaged an old friend who loves his
iPhone
X: What percentage of the time does FaceID fail to open the phone, due to
you wearing sunglasses or a hat or the room being too dark? Oh, just 35
percent of the time, he estimated. My TouchID still works 100 percent of the
time. Hmmm.
Perhaps I could upgrade to last year's iPhone 8, the last Apple model to use
TouchID. But what an uninspiring option that seemed. Spend $549, get a phone
with half the capacity of my 128GB 6S (Apple doesn't offer a 128GB version
of the 8), and of course, enter Dongle-land.

Well, I figured, at least I could get my 6S ready for trade-in or
hand-me-down by taking advantage of Apple's $29 battery replacement program
(which the company is offering until the end of the year). For some reason,
I discovered at the Apple store, my out-of-warranty phone qualified for a
free battery upgrade; I didn't even need to drop $29.
The only caveat: It had a minor crack in the corner of the screen. Apple
won't perform battery upgrades unless you have a pristine screen, for fear
that it may shatter when they remove the back. The Apple store offered a
screen replacement for $149.
Other stores charged $109. The trade-in value of an iPhone 6S is around
$100. Again I faltered, feeling nudged towards the latest thing.
But then I found a store that did a third-party screen replacement for $65.
It looked indistinguishable from the original. Apple generally won't repair
your phone if it has third-party components, but it makes an exception for
screens. The Apple store did the battery replacement in minutes. All of a
sudden, the phone that had been limping along, rapidly draining, felt like
new.
My 6S feels like it has a new lease on life.

This was helped in large part by the upgrade to iOS 12. Apple has been
touting the fact that the latest iOS will make an old phone run faster, and
I'm here to tell you they're absolutely right. My 6S feels like it has a new
lease on life. If not brand new, it certainly feels like less than a year
old.
Good enough for me.
It seems odd that a trillion-dollar company well known for making you want
the latest thing should make it so easy to get away with not upgrading your
phone for three years. But Apple does seem to be making a new commitment to
sustainability.

Lisa Jackson, former EPA chief and now Apple's vice president of
environment, policy and social initiatives, took a good chunk of the iPhone
XS launch event last week to talk about this. All Apple offices and data
centers are now powered by 100 percent renewable energy. The phones are made
with more recyclable components than ever before.
Jackson didn't talk about this, but the biggest thing you can do for the
environment as an iPhone customer is to not buy a new iPhone every year.
Very quietly, Apple has made this possible, even for eager early-adopter
types like me.
I don't know how this works, financially, in the long-term. Perhaps my
continued use of the 6S is effectively subsidized by people who don't mind
the efficiency downgrade of FaceID, people who must have the latest,
brightest, gold-plated thing, people who don't mind dongles.
All I can say for now is something I've never said before: Thank you Apple,
for not making me upgrade.

https://mashable.com/article/iphone-6s-ios-12-upgrade/

Janet


Thanks, Apple, for making it easy to cling to my iPhone 6S

Janet
 

Hi Everyone,
I came across this report, and I just wanted to share it with you all, so I copied and pasted it below.
I am happy to know this!

Janet

Thanks, Apple, for making it easy to cling to my iPhone 6S, nothing
rong after 3 years -- thanks to iOS 12 and a free battery upgrade.
Still going strong after 3 years -- thanks to iOS 12 and a free battery upgrade.

By
Chris Taylor
It's launch day for the iPhone XS and XS Max. And if it seems a little muted compared to iPhone
launch days past, that may be because Apple is making it
increasingly easy to hang on to your three-year-old phone instead - even if they no longer sell that
phone.
As I
wrote last week,
I was in the market for an XS. But I was torn: I'm
one of those people
who believes
the iPhone 6S is the last truly great iPhone Apple made.
I'm loath to swap my built-in headphone jack for a life in which I have to carry around a Lightning-to-
aux dongle just in case.

And yes, fanboys, before you jump in: I already use Bluetooth headphones! I just like the option to
plug in a wired set of cans - the same option I am
afforded on my latest-model iPad Pro and bang-up-to-date MacBook. Answer me this, jackless
iPhone owners: When you jump into a friend's car for a long
ride, want to play some tunes, and all they have is an aux cord, what do you do? Hope you
remembered your dongle and don't need to charge your phone at
the same time!
Still, for a hot moment, I felt compelled to give in to my inner early adopter and get the latest thing. My
6S often drained fast, requiring me to carry
an external battery at all times or to live in Low Power Mode. Perhaps I was being unreasonable.
Perhaps I could learn to live with dongles.
Perhaps I could even learn to live with FaceID, though it still seems an unnecessary and insecure
feature. I messaged an old friend who loves his iPhone
X: What percentage of the time does FaceID fail to open the phone, due to you wearing sunglasses or
a hat or the room being too dark? Oh, just 35 percent
of the time, he estimated. My TouchID still works 100 percent of the time. Hmmm.
Perhaps I could upgrade to last year's iPhone 8, the last Apple model to use TouchID. But what an
uninspiring option that seemed. Spend $549, get a phone
with half the capacity of my 128GB 6S (Apple doesn't offer a 128GB version of the 8), and of course,
enter Dongle-land.

Well, I figured, at least I could get my 6S ready for trade-in or hand-me-down by taking advantage of
Apple's $29 battery replacement program (which the
company is offering until the end of the year). For some reason, I discovered at the Apple store, my
out-of-warranty phone qualified for a free battery
upgrade; I didn't even need to drop $29.
The only caveat: It had a minor crack in the corner of the screen. Apple won't perform battery
upgrades unless you have a pristine screen, for fear that
it may shatter when they remove the back. The Apple store offered a screen replacement for $149.
Other stores charged $109. The trade-in value of an iPhone
6S is around $100. Again I faltered, feeling nudged towards the latest thing.
But then I found a store that did a third-party screen replacement for $65. It looked indistinguishable
from the original. Apple generally won't repair
your phone if it has third-party components, but it makes an exception for screens. The Apple store
did the battery replacement in minutes. All of a sudden,
the phone that had been limping along, rapidly draining, felt like new.
My 6S feels like it has a new lease on life.

This was helped in large part by the upgrade to iOS 12. Apple has been touting the fact that the latest
iOS will make an old phone run faster, and I'm
here to tell you they're absolutely right. My 6S feels like it has a new lease on life. If not brand new, it
certainly feels like less than a year old.
Good enough for me.
It seems odd that a trillion-dollar company well known for making you want the latest thing should
make it so easy to get away with not upgrading your
phone for three years. But Apple does seem to be making a new commitment to sustainability.

Lisa Jackson, former EPA chief and now Apple's vice president of environment, policy and social
initiatives, took a good chunk of the iPhone XS launch
event last week to talk about this. All Apple offices and data centers are now powered by 100 percent
renewable energy. The phones are made with more recyclable
components than ever before.
Jackson didn't talk about this, but the biggest thing you can do for the environment as an iPhone
customer is to not buy a new iPhone every year. Very quietly, Apple
has made this possible, even for eager early-adopter types like me.
I don't know how this works, financially, in the long-term. Perhaps my continued use of the 6S is
effectively subsidized by people who don't mind the efficiency
downgrade of FaceID, people who must have the latest, brightest, gold-plated thing, people who don't
mind dongles.
All I can say for now is something I've never said before: Thank you Apple, for not making me
upgrade.

https://mashable.com/article/iphone-6s-ios-12-upgrade/

Janet


Re: chrome brower

"Marvin Atkins"
 

Gene,
 
I listened to Youtube videos last night and this morning using IE 11. I had no problems with it; but, I did nothing else in Youtube, only listened to some videos. I use JAWS and Windows 10. I have Firefox and Chrome but haven’t opened those browsers in weeks.
 
Marvin.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...> 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> 
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much






Re: technological resources for learning I P A symbols?

Teri McElroy
 

Hello Leo

I would be interested to know if anyone else on list has answers to your questions, especially about writing phonetic or phonemic symbols. If you are a Jaws user, there is a way to modify Jaws so that it says the names of the phonetic symbols, but it won't pronounce words written with those symbols.

Which screen reader do you use? If you use NVDA have you emailed the developers to see if NVDA can be modified to pronounce the symbols? I found information on how to do this with Jaws by googling so there could be something similar for NVDA.
If you have difficulty understanding ESpeak, can you use another synthesizer?

Teri

On 23-Sep-18 4:02 AM, Leo Bado wrote:

Hello fellow listers,

I stop by to ask a question about learning phonetic sounds for English language and any accessible tech-tool related.

I’ve been looking for an accessible way to read phonetic symbols specificly with a synthetizer or may be a software.For my surprise espeak reads some of the phonetic sounds properly but it seems not to be able to read all of them, besides I have a hard time trying to grasp what espaek is trying to say due to its robotic sound.So, if anyone can give me a tip ere I would appreciate it.

I also want to know if someone knows how to write phonetic sounds, let’s say at least using ascii code.I foundcodes for ascii decimal and hexadecimal or something like that but I don’t know how to use those codes to write the symbol.

Lastly but no least, does anyone have international phonetic alphabet (I P A) on audio that be willing to share?

I take hints and remarks about how to face this situation, specially because I can’t find reliable technological resources in oreder to properly learn the international phonetic alphabet.

Thank you for any help or suggestion.

--
Leo Bado


iHart radio 2018 music festival audio?

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Does anyone have or know of audio of the complete Ihart radio 2018
music festival?

Please email privately.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: chrome brower

Ann Marie Medlar
 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Marie Medlar
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 3:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

Hi all,

After reading this message amdand went to Fast.Com and my speed is

110 MPS.

Then figured I would check out YouTube

And clicked link about Paul McCartney.  He has new record Egypt Station out and I hope to score tickets to his show. 

Link for Paul and no issues with IE Jaws2018.  Enjoyed Paul on YouTube. 

https://fast.com/

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

 

I just accessed five different Youtube  pages at random using IE 11and JAWS 16 and they all played.  Maybe the problem you are experiencing is with NVDA, not with Youtube.  Or maybe there’s a problem with your ISP and your Internet download speed is very slow.  Some Youtube videos will not play at all if your Internet speed is too slow.  You can perform a quick check of your Internet download speed by visiting Fast.com.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much




Re: chrome brower

Ann Marie Medlar
 

Hi all,

After reading this message amdand went to Fast.Com and my speed is

110 MPS.

Then figured I would check out YouTube

And clicked link about Paul McCartney.  He has new record Egypt Station out and I hope to score tickets to his show. 

Link for Paul and no issues with IE Jaws2018.  Enjoyed Paul on YouTube. 

https://fast.com/

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

 

I just accessed five different Youtube  pages at random using IE 11and JAWS 16 and they all played.  Maybe the problem you are experiencing is with NVDA, not with Youtube.  Or maybe there’s a problem with your ISP and your Internet download speed is very slow.  Some Youtube videos will not play at all if your Internet speed is too slow.  You can perform a quick check of your Internet download speed by visiting Fast.com.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much





Re: Amazon basic microwave

Kay Malmquist
 


Apparently, the app is accessible but the scanning feature is not easy to use.  I really don't know that much more about it.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Amazon basic microwave

Well if the GE app is accessible and stay that way if it is and if we as blind people was able to scan the bar code with this app it would be a great feature.

It is a bigger microwave so this might be a plus.

Also setting up the microwave in the GE app is it accessible?

It does sounds nice.

Do you have this one?

If so would you consider a podcast on it?

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 3:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Amazon basic microwave

 

Hi Matt,

There is also another microwave that is WI-FI and Alexa enabled.  Here is a bit more about it.

 

NEWS – GE’s 0.9 Cu. Ft. Capacity Smart Countertop Microwave Oven with Scan-To-Cook Technology (JES1097SMSS) adds Alexa voice control to your microwave.  The microwave connects to your home WiFi, so you can control it with voice commands through your Alexa device. 

The 0.9 ft³ oven has 900W of cooking power.  It has a variety of pre-set controls for defrosting food, reheating a dinner plate, popping corn, baking potatoes, and more.  Or you can use Alexa voice commands to set time and power levels, add cooking time, stop the microwave, and other commands.  And using the GE app, you can scan the bar code on a food package, and the GE Smart Countertop Microwave automatically adjusts power levels, cook times, and more, according to package instructions.

The interior has an LED light and a glass turntable.  The exterior measures 19″ wide x 11 ½” tall x 14 ½” deep, and the interior measures 13.7″ wide x 8.7″ tall x 12.4″ deep.  It has a gray body and a stainless steel door.

The MSRP is $139.00.  Check the GE website to learn more about the 0.9 Cu. Ft. Capacity Smart Countertop Microwave Oven with Scan-To-Cook Technology and to find local retailers.  Amazon also sells this microwave for $125.99.

 

So, my question is, which one is the best?

 

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

To: Tech Talk

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:15 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Amazon basic microwave

 

Hi, any of you tried out or will try out the new Amazon basic microwave that uses Alexa to control the microwave?

It even has a Alexa button on the microwave.

I think you can control it by your echo or by the Alexa button or the app.

This might help with getting an accessible microwave .

It is small but would be just fine for heating things up in.

 

 

Matt

Matt.from.florida@...

 

 

 


getting the mail ap to work with jaws in windows 10?

Michael Amaro
 

Hello Listers,
 
How easy is it to use the mail ap in windows 10 with jaws?  I am having no luck in setting up my friend's @msn email address in windows live mail.  There for I want to go the mail ap route.  I my self have never used  the mail ap.  How easy is it to teach some one that doesn't know much about technology?  Is it easy to set up an acount?
 
Thanks
 
Michael
 
Email/Skype:
 
 
Zoom Room:
 
 
Zoom ID:
 
7792849618
 
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Re: Amazon basic microwave

Matt
 

Well if the GE app is accessible and stay that way if it is and if we as blind people was able to scan the bar code with this app it would be a great feature.

It is a bigger microwave so this might be a plus.

Also setting up the microwave in the GE app is it accessible?

It does sounds nice.

Do you have this one?

If so would you consider a podcast on it?

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 3:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Amazon basic microwave

 

Hi Matt,

There is also another microwave that is WI-FI and Alexa enabled.  Here is a bit more about it.

 

NEWS – GE’s 0.9 Cu. Ft. Capacity Smart Countertop Microwave Oven with Scan-To-Cook Technology (JES1097SMSS) adds Alexa voice control to your microwave.  The microwave connects to your home WiFi, so you can control it with voice commands through your Alexa device. 

The 0.9 ft³ oven has 900W of cooking power.  It has a variety of pre-set controls for defrosting food, reheating a dinner plate, popping corn, baking potatoes, and more.  Or you can use Alexa voice commands to set time and power levels, add cooking time, stop the microwave, and other commands.  And using the GE app, you can scan the bar code on a food package, and the GE Smart Countertop Microwave automatically adjusts power levels, cook times, and more, according to package instructions.

The interior has an LED light and a glass turntable.  The exterior measures 19″ wide x 11 ½” tall x 14 ½” deep, and the interior measures 13.7″ wide x 8.7″ tall x 12.4″ deep.  It has a gray body and a stainless steel door.

The MSRP is $139.00.  Check the GE website to learn more about the 0.9 Cu. Ft. Capacity Smart Countertop Microwave Oven with Scan-To-Cook Technology and to find local retailers.  Amazon also sells this microwave for $125.99.

 

So, my question is, which one is the best?

 

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:15 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Amazon basic microwave

 

Hi, any of you tried out or will try out the new Amazon basic microwave that uses Alexa to control the microwave?

It even has a Alexa button on the microwave.

I think you can control it by your echo or by the Alexa button or the app.

This might help with getting an accessible microwave .

It is small but would be just fine for heating things up in.

 

 

Matt

Matt.from.florida@...

 

 

 


Re: Amazon basic microwave

Kay Malmquist
 


Hi Matt,
There is also another microwave that is WI-FI and Alexa enabled.  Here is a bit more about it.
 

NEWS – GE’s 0.9 Cu. Ft. Capacity Smart Countertop Microwave Oven with Scan-To-Cook Technology (JES1097SMSS) adds Alexa voice control to your microwave.  The microwave connects to your home WiFi, so you can control it with voice commands through your Alexa device. 

The 0.9 ft³ oven has 900W of cooking power.  It has a variety of pre-set controls for defrosting food, reheating a dinner plate, popping corn, baking potatoes, and more.  Or you can use Alexa voice commands to set time and power levels, add cooking time, stop the microwave, and other commands.  And using the GE app, you can scan the bar code on a food package, and the GE Smart Countertop Microwave automatically adjusts power levels, cook times, and more, according to package instructions.

The interior has an LED light and a glass turntable.  The exterior measures 19″ wide x 11 ½” tall x 14 ½” deep, and the interior measures 13.7″ wide x 8.7″ tall x 12.4″ deep.  It has a gray body and a stainless steel door.

The MSRP is $139.00.  Check the GE website to learn more about the 0.9 Cu. Ft. Capacity Smart Countertop Microwave Oven with Scan-To-Cook Technology and to find local retailers.  Amazon also sells this microwave for $125.99.

 

So, my question is, which one is the best?

 

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Amazon basic microwave

Hi, any of you tried out or will try out the new Amazon basic microwave that uses Alexa to control the microwave?

It even has a Alexa button on the microwave.

I think you can control it by your echo or by the Alexa button or the app.

This might help with getting an accessible microwave .

It is small but would be just fine for heating things up in.

 

 

Matt

Matt.from.florida@...

 

 

 


Re: The cost of repairing a 2nd gen Victor Reader?

Laz
 

As has been previously reported on this list it's around $200 for
Humanware to switch out the motherboard. You may wish to consider
gettig a magnetic cable for when you get it back or for your next
Stream in order to avoid the same thing from happening again.

Laz

On 9/22/18, Sharon Hooley <shooley42@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

The USB port on my 2nd Gen Victor Reader has become difficult, if not
impossible, to be connected. How much might it cost to send it to Humanware
to repair?

Thanks,

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Re: Amazon basic microwave

Matt
 

From: Matt From Florida [mailto:matt.from.florida@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:16 PM
To: Tech Talk
Subject: Amazon basic microwave

 

Hi, any of you tried out or will try out the new Amazon basic microwave that uses Alexa to control the microwave?

It even has a Alexa button on the microwave.

I think you can control it by your echo or by the Alexa button or the app.

This might help with getting an accessible microwave .

It is small but would be just fine for heating things up in.

 

 

Matt

Matt.from.florida@...

 

 

 


Re: chrome browser

Matt
 

Yes since it is not being updated it is a dying breed. I use edge with Jaws latest version and it is workable. I hope JFW19 will make things even better. I can use it but don’t use it as my main browser.

You have to customize edge to work it best with JFW.

But it does work fairly well.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

Not true for what?  It is a fact that it works for fewer sites over time.  It may still work for the sites you use and for the sites many blind people use but it is becoming increasingly limited over time. 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: brian

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

    Yes it does and my friend does use it as well.   I do use fire fox but Ido go in to ie from time to time to find out if it still works.  We keep hearing about  ie not working but thats jst not true.

Brian Sackrider

On 9/22/2018 12:37 PM, Gene wrote:

But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much





Re: chrome brower

Gene
 

I don't use Internet Explorer, as I said, I don't have that version on any of my machines.  I don't have any general problem.  But since Youtube made some sort of change very recently and I can't use older browsers to listen to streams, I didn't know if you still could with IE11.  Evidently, you still can.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
I just accessed five different Youtube  pages at random using IE 11and JAWS 16 and they all played.  Maybe the problem you are experiencing is with NVDA, not with Youtube.  Or maybe there’s a problem with your ISP and your Internet download speed is very slow.  Some Youtube videos will not play at all if your Internet speed is too slow.  You can perform a quick check of your Internet download speed by visiting Fast.com.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much






Re: chrome brower

Gerald Levy
 

 
I just accessed five different Youtube  pages at random using IE 11and JAWS 16 and they all played.  Maybe the problem you are experiencing is with NVDA, not with Youtube.  Or maybe there’s a problem with your ISP and your Internet download speed is very slow.  Some Youtube videos will not play at all if your Internet speed is too slow.  You can perform a quick check of your Internet download speed by visiting Fast.com.
 
Gerald
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much






Re: chrome brower

Gene
 

Not true for what?  It is a fact that it works for fewer sites over time.  It may still work for the sites you use and for the sites many blind people use but it is becoming increasingly limited over time. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: brian
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

    Yes it does and my friend does use it as well.   I do use fire fox but Ido go in to ie from time to time to find out if it still works.  We keep hearing about  ie not working but thats jst not true.

Brian Sackrider

On 9/22/2018 12:37 PM, Gene wrote:
But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much






Amazon basic microwave

Matt
 

Hi, any of you tried out or will try out the new Amazon basic microwave that uses Alexa to control the microwave?

It even has a Alexa button on the microwave.

I think you can control it by your echo or by the Alexa button or the app.

This might help with getting an accessible microwave .

It is small but would be just fine for heating things up in.

 

 

Matt

Matt.from.florida@...

 

 

 


Re: The cost of repairing a 2nd gen Victor Reader?

Monte Single
 

phone the humanware 1 800 number and talk to tech support.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon Hooley
Sent: September-22-18 10:59 AM
To: Techtalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] The cost of repairing a 2nd gen Victor Reader?

 

Hi,

 

The USB port on my 2nd Gen Victor Reader has  become difficult, if not impossible, to be connected.  How much might it cost to send it to Humanware to repair?

 

Thanks,

 

Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids?  Visit http://cochlearamericas.com

 


Re: chrome brower

brian
 

    Yes it does and my friend does use it as well.   I do use fire fox but Ido go in to ie from time to time to find out if it still works.  We keep hearing about  ie not working but thats jst not true.

Brian Sackrider

On 9/22/2018 12:37 PM, Gene wrote:
But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much





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