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Re: thunderbird question

Shelly Kane
 

Gene:


Thank you for this explanation.  This is exactly what happens to me.  I must be hitting an arrow key when I enter on close and that's when this opens up and I can't get out.  I will know to be extra careful now.

On 1/23/2019 10:16 AM, Gene wrote:
F7 does start the spell checker.  So does control shift p.  You can't assume that commands given in menus are the only ones.  F7 is such a common command to start the spell checker in all sorts of programs that I tried it when I was learning something about the program without even checking to see what the command is and it worked. 
 
Also, while I'm not sure what the person did, if you spellcheck a document and tab around the entire dialog, there is a combo box that says language.  Down arrow in that combo box and Thunderbird uses its built-in browser to go to the page on the Internet for downloading languages.  That is what was done, or perhaps another arrow key might do this as well.  But clearly an arrow key was pressed while in the language field of the spell checker.  I see no other thing that could have been done, being in the spell checker. 
 
I just tested this and that is what happened.  Now, when I close the program and open it, the internal browser takes me to the page.  This isn't an add-on.  this is the program itself.  How you stop it is something I don't know.  I may or may not get the answer one way or another.  But this is definitive evidence that just leaving the spell checker opened doesn't automatically do anything and it is a reminder to be careful not to press keys in a dialog when you are tabbing around just to see what is in it unless you specifically want to try something or explore something.  That's fine but clearly the person inadvertently pressed the down arrow key in the language combo box.   
 
I don't use Thunderbird.  I keep it on my computer to help with questions at times so I can experiment in this way with no inconvenience to myself.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird question


First of all, the correct command for invoking the Thunderbird spell checker is Shift-Control-P, not F7 as in MS-based email clients.  Pressing f7 in Thunderbird is the command for selecting text with the keyboar, so I don't know exactly what happened when Shelley pressed F7 and somehow invoked a download of a language dictionary. It sounds like she may have inadvertently invoked the Thunderbird Add-On Manager, which is prompting her to download a language dictionary add-on.  I don't know how to get rid of this prompt when Thunderbird is opened, other than perhaps letting this add-on install and then removing it from the Add-On Manager.  The only other commands I can suggest trying are Control-F4 or Control-Tab    . 


Gerald



On 1/23/2019 2:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why, but I looked up a help article on the language dictionaries and, as you will see if you read some of it, it is a completely different procedure than using f7. 

All f7 does is run the spell checker.  It doesn't download dictionaries based on this detailed and involved discussion of how to do it.  I've never seen a spell checker try to download anything just because it is running.  As far as stopping it is concerned, I don't know if you can or not but maybe the easiest thing to do is just to let the program download them and then just let them sit there, or delete them after they have been downloaded.  I didn't look at this carefully, but it appears that this download option will open your browser and take you to the downloads page.  Maybe just closing the browser wil solve the problem.  Maybe downloading the dictionaries will solve it. 
 
You may want to wait for more information from users but you don't have to worry about using f7 and not closing the spellchecker.  Something else caused you to see what you see. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

        Hi Group:


I was typing an email yesterday and used the spell checker.  I hit f7
and when I was done, I didn't close it fast enough and I got this thing
about downloading the language dictionaries.  I can still do emails but
that tries to download every time I get on the computer.  I have hit alt
4, control w, and escape and none of that works.  Is there a command for
this so this stops coming up when I open Thunderbird?  Thank you in advance.

Shelly




Re: thunderbird question

Shelly Kane
 

Thank you.

On 1/23/2019 10:04 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,


I tried simulating this issue in Thunderbird.  I usually have spell as you go turned on so I don't run the spell check proper with F7.  I was able to reproduce this if somehow I tried choosing a different language pack under the spell checker main window.  When I did this, I got a loading message followed by the appearance of an add on manager window which prompted me to choose a different language pack. This dialogue using NVDA didn't work so well, bub by routing around, I did see in my case I only had the English language pack loaded.  I was able to tab to the close button, press enter and close this window.  When closing and reopening the message with spelling errors, the prompt to download other language packs did not occur. 


Simply try tabbing to the close button in this add on window if it opens again when you press F7, press enter or space bar on the button and see if that fixes the issue.


On 1/23/2019 2:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why, but I looked up a help article on the language dictionaries and, as you will see if you read some of it, it is a completely different procedure than using f7. 
All f7 does is run the spell checker.  It doesn't download dictionaries based on this detailed and involved discussion of how to do it.  I've never seen a spell checker try to download anything just because it is running.  As far as stopping it is concerned, I don't know if you can or not but maybe the easiest thing to do is just to let the program download them and then just let them sit there, or delete them after they have been downloaded.  I didn't look at this carefully, but it appears that this download option will open your browser and take you to the downloads page.  Maybe just closing the browser wil solve the problem.  Maybe downloading the dictionaries will solve it. 
 
You may want to wait for more information from users but you don't have to worry about using f7 and not closing the spellchecker.  Something else caused you to see what you see. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

        Hi Group:


I was typing an email yesterday and used the spell checker.  I hit f7
and when I was done, I didn't close it fast enough and I got this thing
about downloading the language dictionaries.  I can still do emails but
that tries to download every time I get on the computer.  I have hit alt
4, control w, and escape and none of that works.  Is there a command for
this so this stops coming up when I open Thunderbird?  Thank you in advance.

Shelly



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I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: thunderbird question

Shelly Kane
 

One more thing, when I use the thunderbird spell checker, how do i get out of it when I'm done?  Is there a close button?

Shelly

On 1/23/2019 7:39 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


First of all, the correct command for invoking the Thunderbird spell checker is Shift-Control-P, not F7 as in MS-based email clients.  Pressing f7 in Thunderbird is the command for selecting text with the keyboar, so I don't know exactly what happened when Shelley pressed F7 and somehow invoked a download of a language dictionary. It sounds like she may have inadvertently invoked the Thunderbird Add-On Manager, which is prompting her to download a language dictionary add-on.  I don't know how to get rid of this prompt when Thunderbird is opened, other than perhaps letting this add-on install and then removing it from the Add-On Manager.  The only other commands I can suggest trying are Control-F4 or Control-Tab    . 


Gerald


 

On 1/23/2019 2:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why, but I looked up a help article on the language dictionaries and, as you will see if you read some of it, it is a completely different procedure than using f7. 

All f7 does is run the spell checker.  It doesn't download dictionaries based on this detailed and involved discussion of how to do it.  I've never seen a spell checker try to download anything just because it is running.  As far as stopping it is concerned, I don't know if you can or not but maybe the easiest thing to do is just to let the program download them and then just let them sit there, or delete them after they have been downloaded.  I didn't look at this carefully, but it appears that this download option will open your browser and take you to the downloads page.  Maybe just closing the browser wil solve the problem.  Maybe downloading the dictionaries will solve it. 
 
You may want to wait for more information from users but you don't have to worry about using f7 and not closing the spellchecker.  Something else caused you to see what you see. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

        Hi Group:


I was typing an email yesterday and used the spell checker.  I hit f7
and when I was done, I didn't close it fast enough and I got this thing
about downloading the language dictionaries.  I can still do emails but
that tries to download every time I get on the computer.  I have hit alt
4, control w, and escape and none of that works.  Is there a command for
this so this stops coming up when I open Thunderbird?  Thank you in advance.

Shelly




Re: thunderbird question

Shelly Kane
 

Thank you everyone:


It's working just fine.  It's an add on manager.  Sorry that I didn't specify.  I will definitely try those commands if i get stuck in that again.  It has happened quite a few times.  Thanks again.

Shelly

On 1/23/2019 7:39 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


First of all, the correct command for invoking the Thunderbird spell checker is Shift-Control-P, not F7 as in MS-based email clients.  Pressing f7 in Thunderbird is the command for selecting text with the keyboar, so I don't know exactly what happened when Shelley pressed F7 and somehow invoked a download of a language dictionary. It sounds like she may have inadvertently invoked the Thunderbird Add-On Manager, which is prompting her to download a language dictionary add-on.  I don't know how to get rid of this prompt when Thunderbird is opened, other than perhaps letting this add-on install and then removing it from the Add-On Manager.  The only other commands I can suggest trying are Control-F4 or Control-Tab    . 


Gerald


 

On 1/23/2019 2:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why, but I looked up a help article on the language dictionaries and, as you will see if you read some of it, it is a completely different procedure than using f7. 

All f7 does is run the spell checker.  It doesn't download dictionaries based on this detailed and involved discussion of how to do it.  I've never seen a spell checker try to download anything just because it is running.  As far as stopping it is concerned, I don't know if you can or not but maybe the easiest thing to do is just to let the program download them and then just let them sit there, or delete them after they have been downloaded.  I didn't look at this carefully, but it appears that this download option will open your browser and take you to the downloads page.  Maybe just closing the browser wil solve the problem.  Maybe downloading the dictionaries will solve it. 
 
You may want to wait for more information from users but you don't have to worry about using f7 and not closing the spellchecker.  Something else caused you to see what you see. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

        Hi Group:


I was typing an email yesterday and used the spell checker.  I hit f7
and when I was done, I didn't close it fast enough and I got this thing
about downloading the language dictionaries.  I can still do emails but
that tries to download every time I get on the computer.  I have hit alt
4, control w, and escape and none of that works.  Is there a command for
this so this stops coming up when I open Thunderbird?  Thank you in advance.

Shelly




Re: skype version

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Smiling & List:

 

I thought Skype Electron was version 7 of Skype.

Alternatively, am I mixed up?

Brian K. Lingard

 

as

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: January 22, 2019 5:12 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] skype version

 

Using the JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows Desktop 8 (Electron):

http://dlee.org/skype/electron/skypeelectron.htm

 

Direct link for Skype 8 (Electron) scripts:

http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/jfw_skypeelectron.exe

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 10:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] skype version

 

Hi,

I went to skype.com, and installed version 8.37.

When I launch skype it says skype preview and from there I can’t get anywhere. Thoughts?

 

 

“Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars.” -Casey Kasem

Kimsan Song

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 6:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] skype version

 

Actually if you are going to use Skype and precisely if you're starting a new installation you'll need Skype 8 or superior.
Most of the blind folks that I know, including myself, didn't like the new skype interface.
To me it would be infinitely better if they had just keeping skype as it was before this new version. But that's just a opinion, you may find it different
Anyway, good luck!


Cheers,
Marcio

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Em 22/01/2019 00:41, Kimsan via Groups.Io escreveu:

Hi,

 

Running jaws 17 through 2019, I need to reinstall skype which version is best to download?

Thanks

 

 

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Password Recovery Programs

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi All,
 
A friend who is sighted and running Windows 8.1 has lost / forgotten her log-on password.  Are there any password recovery programs available for a situation like this?  Or, are there steps that I can use to walk her through to reset her password?  All advice will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action.


"How I got the headphone jack back

Sharon Hooley
 

Well, I ended up resetting my PC. Apparently I would have needed to access administration in order to use the sound card mixer to switch to the headphone jack. It's in the place where you can do more tweaking, like muting the speakers, etc. No wonder I was confused! I remember now having to go to two places to change everything. I hope this helps someone.

Thanks again for your input,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids? Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com


Re: dvd audio extractor

Troy Burnham
 

Today when I ripped the first dvd I did notice that there was a list of 3 things that could be ripped and that only the first option was checked, so I checked the other 2.


Troy

On 1/23/2019 9:34 AM, Dave wrote:
When you use Audio Extractor, it always Checks the first Track on a
DVD.  Are you using the Space Bar to select the other tracks?



On 1/22/2019 6:34 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,


I'm trying to rip some dvd's with dvd audio extractor, and when I
ripped the first dvd I found the ripped file but it's only 19 seconds
long and it's supposed to be a baseball game so it should be much much
longer than 19 seconds.  Also I hear what may be the beginning of the
audio but I can't tell for sure because all it is is a little noise.


I had to install dvd audio extractor before starting this, and I used
an executable that I've had for several years, maybe since windows xp,
and now I'm running windows 10 so could that be the problem?  If not
can anybody tell me what to try?  This is a set of DVD's and the
package indicates that there should be 3 files on each disk, but all I
can find is a file called chapter 1mp3 and an m3u file that I don't
remember the name of.  Neither file plays anything except for that
slight noise that I mentioned above though.


Thanks.


Troy







Re: dvd audio extractor

Troy Burnham
 

Hi Mitch,


The updated version ripped the audio, but it was only the audio of the television broadcast and not the radio broadcasts that I was looking for.  That's okay though, I don't know if it'll do any good butI went online and found an e-mail to contact the Houston astros, probably the ticket office although the e-mail says that it's for general questions, and I'll explain the situation and see if they have anybody that can help me.


Troy

On 1/23/2019 7:48 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
Hi troy. Your welcome. Yes it helps to get the upgraded version of a program. I hope you are able to now rip your baceball games. Please let me know if that helps and does the job. Btw dvd audio exstractor is well werth the money. I have 2 coppies one on my dell pc and the second on my hp pc and each I baught and payed for and as I said it is well werth the money. From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: January 23, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] dvd audio extractor

Thanks Mitch I downloaded it. As usual it didn't occur to me to check the program for an update until later but I hadn't had a chance to do that yet so thanks.


Troy



On 1/23/2019 7:10 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
Hi Troy. Try this.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/l8x9h2

It is a link to the latest version of dvd audio exstractor. This is just the .exe file. It is leagle and it is the version I downloaded from the sight. It is from 2018 and it should help to get the right version of the program. I hope this helps. From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Troy Burnham
Sent: January 22, 2019 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] dvd audio extractor

Hi all,


I'm trying to rip some dvd's with dvd audio extractor, and when I ripped the first dvd I found the ripped file but it's only 19 seconds long and it's supposed to be a baseball game so it should be much much longer than 19 seconds. Also I hear what may be the beginning of the audio but I can't tell for sure because all it is is a little noise.


I had to install dvd audio extractor before starting this, and I used an executable that I've had for several years, maybe since windows xp, and now I'm running windows 10 so could that be the problem? If not can anybody tell me what to try? This is a set of DVD's and the package indicates that there should be 3 files on each disk, but all I can find is a file called chapter 1mp3 and an m3u file that I don't remember the name of. Neither file plays anything except for that slight noise that I mentioned above though.


Thanks.


Troy













Outlook issue.

Carolyn Arnold
 

It has become impossible for me to open attachments. For a
while, at someone's suggestion, I could get into them by
saving them. Now, whenever I try to save, I get the message
that there is no path.

I've tried Insert-A; Shift-Tab, Right Arrow. With Insert-A,
I get the message that there is no attachment. With
Shift-Tab, I see that there is an attachment, but nothing
will open it. Lately, as I said, I can no longer save them.

Frankly, I am almost to the point that it is not worth
fussing about, but someone suggested that I ask the tech
list. I realize too, that some people have issues with
Outlook. Otherwise, I don't seem to have any problems with
Outlook, but, of course the one I have is one too many.

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn


Sam Broadcaster software and NVDA

Armando Maldonado
 

Hello,
I was wondering if anyone has been successful in using Sam broadcaster Pro with NVDA or different screen reader? I've tried Jaws, NVDA and Narrator and they don't seem to read the buttons nor edit fields. I've contactedSpasial Audio's so-called tech support to no avail. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I use Station Playlist but I like sam due to its all in one deal where you can automate and broadcast.
Armando


Re: Hacking Into Notetakers

George Zaynoun
 

What is a hex dumper?
Original message:

Hi,
No, it might not be possible unless you’re willing to capture ROM images by opening up the notetaker casing or a hex dumper. The reason why you won’t see the “other disk” you speak of is because that “system disk” is not really a disk at all – it is a ROM image. In Windows CE, the “Windows” directory that resides in that “system disk” is really an instruction for the operating system to access the ROM image (does this sound familiar? I talked about ROM images a lot back in the old days).
If you’d like to have an emulated ROM image for these notetakers, this might not be the venue for it – you should really contact HumanWare and/or HIMS if you pursue such activities, as they’re the ones who can give you an authoritative answer (although I was once considered a notetaker expert, I’m not an authority on ROM image creation).
Cheers,
Joseph
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jack And Becky
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 8:02 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Hacking Into Notetakers
I am with you guys Totally on this one! Love to see these things get a new lease on life so to speak !! Jack and Bex
On Jan 23, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com <mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com>> wrote:
this would be excellent. It would be nice to be able to preserve old notetakers such as the brailleNote classic by making a complete image of its storeage drive and OS and software and firmware including its text to speech, and then run it inside an emulator in windows 10.
Josh
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Re: thunderbird question

Gerald Levy
 


Yes, I just discovered myself that F7 invokes the TB spell checker, although this command is not listed on the complete list of TB shortcuts:


https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts



Gerald



On 1/23/2019 10:40 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Gerald,


F7 does also work to invoke the spell checker in later versions of Thunderbird.  I think this is what is called an undocumented feature.  People who used to use Outlook Express naturally choose this keystroke by mistake, so maybe Thunderbird developers added this for convenience.


On 1/23/2019 7:39 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


First of all, the correct command for invoking the Thunderbird spell checker is Shift-Control-P, not F7 as in MS-based email clients.  Pressing f7 in Thunderbird is the command for selecting text with the keyboar, so I don't know exactly what happened when Shelley pressed F7 and somehow invoked a download of a language dictionary. It sounds like she may have inadvertently invoked the Thunderbird Add-On Manager, which is prompting her to download a language dictionary add-on.  I don't know how to get rid of this prompt when Thunderbird is opened, other than perhaps letting this add-on install and then removing it from the Add-On Manager.  The only other commands I can suggest trying are Control-F4 or Control-Tab    . 


Gerald


 

On 1/23/2019 2:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why, but I looked up a help article on the language dictionaries and, as you will see if you read some of it, it is a completely different procedure than using f7. 

All f7 does is run the spell checker.  It doesn't download dictionaries based on this detailed and involved discussion of how to do it.  I've never seen a spell checker try to download anything just because it is running.  As far as stopping it is concerned, I don't know if you can or not but maybe the easiest thing to do is just to let the program download them and then just let them sit there, or delete them after they have been downloaded.  I didn't look at this carefully, but it appears that this download option will open your browser and take you to the downloads page.  Maybe just closing the browser wil solve the problem.  Maybe downloading the dictionaries will solve it. 
 
You may want to wait for more information from users but you don't have to worry about using f7 and not closing the spellchecker.  Something else caused you to see what you see. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

        Hi Group:


I was typing an email yesterday and used the spell checker.  I hit f7
and when I was done, I didn't close it fast enough and I got this thing
about downloading the language dictionaries.  I can still do emails but
that tries to download every time I get on the computer.  I have hit alt
4, control w, and escape and none of that works.  Is there a command for
this so this stops coming up when I open Thunderbird?  Thank you in advance.

Shelly



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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Hacking Into Notetakers

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi,

No, it might not be possible unless you’re willing to capture ROM images by opening up the notetaker casing or a hex dumper. The reason why you won’t see the “other disk” you speak of is because that “system disk” is not really a disk at all – it is a ROM image. In Windows CE, the “Windows” directory that resides in that “system disk” is really an instruction for the operating system to access the ROM image (does this sound familiar? I talked about ROM images a lot back in the old days).

If you’d like to have an emulated ROM image for these notetakers, this might not be the venue for it – you should really contact HumanWare and/or HIMS if you pursue such activities, as they’re the ones who can give you an authoritative answer (although I was once considered a notetaker expert, I’m not an authority on ROM image creation).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jack And Becky
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 8:02 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Hacking Into Notetakers

 

I am with you guys Totally on this one! Love to see these things get a new lease on life so to speak !!  Jack and Bex 


On Jan 23, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

this would be excellent. It would be nice to be able to preserve old notetakers such as the brailleNote classic by making a complete image of its storeage drive and OS and software and firmware including its text to speech, and then run it inside an emulator in windows 10. 

Josh


Re: Hacking Into Notetakers

Jack And Becky <jack@...>
 

I am with you guys Totally on this one! Love to see these things get a new lease on life so to speak !!  Jack and Bex 


On Jan 23, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

this would be excellent. It would be nice to be able to preserve old notetakers such as the brailleNote classic by making a complete image of its storeage drive and OS and software and firmware including its text to speech, and then run it inside an emulator in windows 10. 

Josh


Re: thunderbird question

Gene
 

It may be undocumented but I wonder if there is a toolbar that uses it as a shortcut command.  At times, there are commands in tool bars that you won't find in menus and dialogs and that's one way you may not be aware of a command.  It is often not evident that such a tool bar exists when you are working with a program and not using some sort of screen review and even then, I'm not sure you necessarily hear such shortcut commands announced when you move through a tool baar.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

Hi Gerald,


F7 does also work to invoke the spell checker in later versions of Thunderbird.  I think this is what is called an undocumented feature.  People who used to use Outlook Express naturally choose this keystroke by mistake, so maybe Thunderbird developers added this for convenience.


On 1/23/2019 7:39 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


First of all, the correct command for invoking the Thunderbird spell checker is Shift-Control-P, not F7 as in MS-based email clients.  Pressing f7 in Thunderbird is the command for selecting text with the keyboar, so I don't know exactly what happened when Shelley pressed F7 and somehow invoked a download of a language dictionary. It sounds like she may have inadvertently invoked the Thunderbird Add-On Manager, which is prompting her to download a language dictionary add-on.  I don't know how to get rid of this prompt when Thunderbird is opened, other than perhaps letting this add-on install and then removing it from the Add-On Manager.  The only other commands I can suggest trying are Control-F4 or Control-Tab    . 


Gerald



On 1/23/2019 2:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why, but I looked up a help article on the language dictionaries and, as you will see if you read some of it, it is a completely different procedure than using f7. 

All f7 does is run the spell checker.  It doesn't download dictionaries based on this detailed and involved discussion of how to do it.  I've never seen a spell checker try to download anything just because it is running.  As far as stopping it is concerned, I don't know if you can or not but maybe the easiest thing to do is just to let the program download them and then just let them sit there, or delete them after they have been downloaded.  I didn't look at this carefully, but it appears that this download option will open your browser and take you to the downloads page.  Maybe just closing the browser wil solve the problem.  Maybe downloading the dictionaries will solve it. 
 
You may want to wait for more information from users but you don't have to worry about using f7 and not closing the spellchecker.  Something else caused you to see what you see. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

        Hi Group:


I was typing an email yesterday and used the spell checker.  I hit f7
and when I was done, I didn't close it fast enough and I got this thing
about downloading the language dictionaries.  I can still do emails but
that tries to download every time I get on the computer.  I have hit alt
4, control w, and escape and none of that works.  Is there a command for
this so this stops coming up when I open Thunderbird?  Thank you in advance.

Shelly



-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: thunderbird question

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gerald,


F7 does also work to invoke the spell checker in later versions of Thunderbird.  I think this is what is called an undocumented feature.  People who used to use Outlook Express naturally choose this keystroke by mistake, so maybe Thunderbird developers added this for convenience.


On 1/23/2019 7:39 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


First of all, the correct command for invoking the Thunderbird spell checker is Shift-Control-P, not F7 as in MS-based email clients.  Pressing f7 in Thunderbird is the command for selecting text with the keyboar, so I don't know exactly what happened when Shelley pressed F7 and somehow invoked a download of a language dictionary. It sounds like she may have inadvertently invoked the Thunderbird Add-On Manager, which is prompting her to download a language dictionary add-on.  I don't know how to get rid of this prompt when Thunderbird is opened, other than perhaps letting this add-on install and then removing it from the Add-On Manager.  The only other commands I can suggest trying are Control-F4 or Control-Tab    . 


Gerald


 

On 1/23/2019 2:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why, but I looked up a help article on the language dictionaries and, as you will see if you read some of it, it is a completely different procedure than using f7. 

All f7 does is run the spell checker.  It doesn't download dictionaries based on this detailed and involved discussion of how to do it.  I've never seen a spell checker try to download anything just because it is running.  As far as stopping it is concerned, I don't know if you can or not but maybe the easiest thing to do is just to let the program download them and then just let them sit there, or delete them after they have been downloaded.  I didn't look at this carefully, but it appears that this download option will open your browser and take you to the downloads page.  Maybe just closing the browser wil solve the problem.  Maybe downloading the dictionaries will solve it. 
 
You may want to wait for more information from users but you don't have to worry about using f7 and not closing the spellchecker.  Something else caused you to see what you see. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

        Hi Group:


I was typing an email yesterday and used the spell checker.  I hit f7
and when I was done, I didn't close it fast enough and I got this thing
about downloading the language dictionaries.  I can still do emails but
that tries to download every time I get on the computer.  I have hit alt
4, control w, and escape and none of that works.  Is there a command for
this so this stops coming up when I open Thunderbird?  Thank you in advance.

Shelly



-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: thunderbird question

Gene
 

Perhaps that is what happens in newer versions of Thunderbird.  I never use the program and I haven't updated it for some time.  Whatever version is being used, either my solution or Ron's should work.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

Hi Group,


I tried simulating this issue in Thunderbird.  I usually have spell as you go turned on so I don't run the spell check proper with F7.  I was able to reproduce this if somehow I tried choosing a different language pack under the spell checker main window.  When I did this, I got a loading message followed by the appearance of an add on manager window which prompted me to choose a different language pack. This dialogue using NVDA didn't work so well, bub by routing around, I did see in my case I only had the English language pack loaded.  I was able to tab to the close button, press enter and close this window.  When closing and reopening the message with spelling errors, the prompt to download other language packs did not occur. 


Simply try tabbing to the close button in this add on window if it opens again when you press F7, press enter or space bar on the button and see if that fixes the issue.


On 1/23/2019 2:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why, but I looked up a help article on the language dictionaries and, as you will see if you read some of it, it is a completely different procedure than using f7. 
All f7 does is run the spell checker.  It doesn't download dictionaries based on this detailed and involved discussion of how to do it.  I've never seen a spell checker try to download anything just because it is running.  As far as stopping it is concerned, I don't know if you can or not but maybe the easiest thing to do is just to let the program download them and then just let them sit there, or delete them after they have been downloaded.  I didn't look at this carefully, but it appears that this download option will open your browser and take you to the downloads page.  Maybe just closing the browser wil solve the problem.  Maybe downloading the dictionaries will solve it. 
 
You may want to wait for more information from users but you don't have to worry about using f7 and not closing the spellchecker.  Something else caused you to see what you see. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

        Hi Group:


I was typing an email yesterday and used the spell checker.  I hit f7
and when I was done, I didn't close it fast enough and I got this thing
about downloading the language dictionaries.  I can still do emails but
that tries to download every time I get on the computer.  I have hit alt
4, control w, and escape and none of that works.  Is there a command for
this so this stops coming up when I open Thunderbird?  Thank you in advance.

Shelly



-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: dvd audio extractor

Dave
 

When you use Audio Extractor, it always Checks the first Track on a
DVD.  Are you using the Space Bar to select the other tracks?

On 1/22/2019 6:34 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,


I'm trying to rip some dvd's with dvd audio extractor, and when I
ripped the first dvd I found the ripped file but it's only 19 seconds
long and it's supposed to be a baseball game so it should be much much
longer than 19 seconds.  Also I hear what may be the beginning of the
audio but I can't tell for sure because all it is is a little noise.


I had to install dvd audio extractor before starting this, and I used
an executable that I've had for several years, maybe since windows xp,
and now I'm running windows 10 so could that be the problem?  If not
can anybody tell me what to try?  This is a set of DVD's and the
package indicates that there should be 3 files on each disk, but all I
can find is a file called chapter 1mp3 and an m3u file that I don't
remember the name of.  Neither file plays anything except for that
slight noise that I mentioned above though.


Thanks.


Troy






Re: thunderbird question

Gene
 

Here is how you stop the behavior and an explanation.  Alt f4 closes a program.  Control f4 closes a window in a program or a tab in a program when you are tab browsing.  If you use f4 when you are in the internal browser because of this problem, you will close the program and opening it just repeats the behavior because the program assumes you want to continue downloading a language.  Control f4 closes the browser and you are in the add-ons manager.  Control f4 again closes the add-ons manager and places you back in the place you are usually when you open the program.  Now that you have closed these items individually, the program doesn't open them again when you run it. 
 
In summary, open the program.  Use control f4 to close the internal browser.  Use control f4 again to close the add-ons manager. 
 
And remember what control f4 does as opposed to alt f4.  it may be important to know at times.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

F7 does start the spell checker.  So does control shift p.  You can't assume that commands given in menus are the only ones.  F7 is such a common command to start the spell checker in all sorts of programs that I tried it when I was learning something about the program without even checking to see what the command is and it worked. 
 
Also, while I'm not sure what the person did, if you spellcheck a document and tab around the entire dialog, there is a combo box that says language.  Down arrow in that combo box and Thunderbird uses its built-in browser to go to the page on the Internet for downloading languages.  That is what was done, or perhaps another arrow key might do this as well.  But clearly an arrow key was pressed while in the language field of the spell checker.  I see no other thing that could have been done, being in the spell checker. 
 
I just tested this and that is what happened.  Now, when I close the program and open it, the internal browser takes me to the page.  This isn't an add-on.  this is the program itself.  How you stop it is something I don't know.  I may or may not get the answer one way or another.  But this is definitive evidence that just leaving the spell checker opened doesn't automatically do anything and it is a reminder to be careful not to press keys in a dialog when you are tabbing around just to see what is in it unless you specifically want to try something or explore something.  That's fine but clearly the person inadvertently pressed the down arrow key in the language combo box.   
 
I don't use Thunderbird.  I keep it on my computer to help with questions at times so I can experiment in this way with no inconvenience to myself.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird question


First of all, the correct command for invoking the Thunderbird spell checker is Shift-Control-P, not F7 as in MS-based email clients.  Pressing f7 in Thunderbird is the command for selecting text with the keyboar, so I don't know exactly what happened when Shelley pressed F7 and somehow invoked a download of a language dictionary. It sounds like she may have inadvertently invoked the Thunderbird Add-On Manager, which is prompting her to download a language dictionary add-on.  I don't know how to get rid of this prompt when Thunderbird is opened, other than perhaps letting this add-on install and then removing it from the Add-On Manager.  The only other commands I can suggest trying are Control-F4 or Control-Tab    . 


Gerald



On 1/23/2019 2:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why, but I looked up a help article on the language dictionaries and, as you will see if you read some of it, it is a completely different procedure than using f7. 

All f7 does is run the spell checker.  It doesn't download dictionaries based on this detailed and involved discussion of how to do it.  I've never seen a spell checker try to download anything just because it is running.  As far as stopping it is concerned, I don't know if you can or not but maybe the easiest thing to do is just to let the program download them and then just let them sit there, or delete them after they have been downloaded.  I didn't look at this carefully, but it appears that this download option will open your browser and take you to the downloads page.  Maybe just closing the browser wil solve the problem.  Maybe downloading the dictionaries will solve it. 
 
You may want to wait for more information from users but you don't have to worry about using f7 and not closing the spellchecker.  Something else caused you to see what you see. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] thunderbird question

        Hi Group:


I was typing an email yesterday and used the spell checker.  I hit f7
and when I was done, I didn't close it fast enough and I got this thing
about downloading the language dictionaries.  I can still do emails but
that tries to download every time I get on the computer.  I have hit alt
4, control w, and escape and none of that works.  Is there a command for
this so this stops coming up when I open Thunderbird?  Thank you in advance.

Shelly



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