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Re: Cereproc TTS, anybody used their products?

Walter Ramage
 

Hi.  I think I have but that was many years ago so I can't really remember just what I thought of it.  Of what I can recall, there were a couple of things that I didn't like.  They were little things but it showed the voice wasn't as  precise as JAWS so I stopped using it and I've had a few computers since then and forgot about that voice until you mentioned it.  Walter.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: 12 February 2019 17:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Cereproc TTS, anybody used their products?

 

I agree it sounds good but I would like to hear it if speeded up somewhat.

Have you tried the Scottish Vocalizer voice, Fiona. I use it quite a lot and find it very responsive and pretty easy to understand and, of course, it is free!

Marie

 

From: Walter Ramage via Groups.Io

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:57 AM

To: techtalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Cereproc TTS, anybody used their products?

 

Hi Guys.  There is a Scottish company called CereProc that does TTS voices.  I would like to purchase one of these but I'm not sure if it would be compatible with JAWS.

 

Has anybody used any of their TTS voices?  The samples given are very good quality and although many are easy on the ear I do like the "Heather" voice

 

I'll paste a link for this voice below but if you want to sample any other voices then the web site is www.cereproc.com.

 

If you have used these voices or know if they are compatible with JAWS (or NVDA) then I would appreciate your comments.  Walter.

 

Link to the Heather voice.

https://www.cereproc.com/en/node/650

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: need a good accessible captcha solver

Chris G <chris@...>
 

Captcha be gone is, gone.


On 2/12/2019 8:07 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

For years I've used Rumola but lately the page containing their Google extension generates a "not found" message. I have just written to them to see if they are going away or if the extension will be returning.

There's also another paid solution called Captcha be Gone but I have not used it.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 2/12/2019 4:51 AM, chris judge wrote:
We all need a good captcha solver, smile. If you have a smart phone, be my eyes is your answer. If not, not sure what to suggest.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Melissa
Sent: February 11, 2019 8:35 PM
To: TechTalk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] need a good accessible captcha solver

Hi list. I need a good accessible captcha solver. I tried looking for rumola but the links do not work. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.
Melissa








Re: Cereproc TTS, anybody used their products?

Chris G <chris@...>
 

It would be a SAPI 5 synthesizer, so you would tell JAWS to use the SAPI voice.


On 2/12/2019 10:57 AM, Walter Ramage via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi Guys.  There is a Scottish company called CereProc that does TTS voices.  I would like to purchase one of these but I'm not sure if it would be compatible with JAWS.

 

Has anybody used any of their TTS voices?  The samples given are very good quality and although many are easy on the ear I do like the "Heather" voice

 

I'll paste a link for this voice below but if you want to sample any other voices then the web site is www.cereproc.com.

 

If you have used these voices or know if they are compatible with JAWS (or NVDA) then I would appreciate your comments.  Walter.

 

Link to the Heather voice.

https://www.cereproc.com/en/node/650


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Cereproc TTS, anybody used their products?

Marie <scribbles5@...>
 

I agree it sounds good but I would like to hear it if speeded up somewhat.
Have you tried the Scottish Vocalizer voice, Fiona. I use it quite a lot and find it very responsive and pretty easy to understand and, of course, it is free!
Marie
 

From: Walter Ramage via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:57 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Cereproc TTS, anybody used their products?
 

Hi Guys.  There is a Scottish company called CereProc that does TTS voices.  I would like to purchase one of these but I'm not sure if it would be compatible with JAWS.

 

Has anybody used any of their TTS voices?  The samples given are very good quality and although many are easy on the ear I do like the "Heather" voice

 

I'll paste a link for this voice below but if you want to sample any other voices then the web site is www.cereproc.com.

 

If you have used these voices or know if they are compatible with JAWS (or NVDA) then I would appreciate your comments.  Walter.

 

Link to the Heather voice.

https://www.cereproc.com/en/node/650


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: need a good accessible captcha solver

Lisa Belville
 

Oh lovely, I didn't realize that.  I guess I'll have to try Be My Eyes sometime.  <sigh>



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...
On 2/12/2019 7:55 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


What you are describing is a new kind of captcha that only a pair of working eyeballs can solve.  Instead of deciphering a string of distorted alphanumeric characters as with a conventional captcha, you have to identify an object displayed on the web page such as a set of blocks or a teapot. Obviously, no captcha solving program that uses algorithms like Webvisum would be able to solve such a captcha.  Maybe a smart phone with the Be My Eyes app might work for solving this type of captcha, but certainly not Webvisum.


Gerald



On 2/12/2019 8:03 AM, Lisa Belville wrote:

In addition to what Gerald writes below, many newer web sites have CAPTCHAsS that Webvism doesn't recognize.  I received a Walmart gift card for Christmas and Webvism didn't know there was a CAPTCHA on the page even though there is a graphic and an edit form to plug in what the graphic says.  Webvism said there was no CAPTCHA to solve.


This wasn't the Walmart retail shopping page, it was one exclusively for Walmart gift cards.


I never got Rumola up and running, so that doesn't work for me, either.


Lisa


Lisa Belville

missktlab1217@...
On 2/12/2019 5:51 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


Not any more.  Unless you already have a Webvisum account, you can no longer create a Webvisum account for the first time, as I discovered yesterday.  In order for someone to register with Webvisum, they need an invitation code from an existing Webvisum account holder.  But when I signed in to my Webvisum account yesterday and submitted a request for an invitation code as a test, I instead received an email message with a new password that had been automatically generated by their email server, even though I specifically requested an invitation code.  So there is apparently no longer any means for an existing Webvisum account holder to obtain an invitation code to pass on to someone else who wants to create a Webvisum account for the first time.  And of course, because Webvisum was abandoned years ago by its developers, there is no means of contacting them.  Looks like the ball game may finally be over for Webvisum unless you already have an account.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 7:45 PM, Gene wrote:
If you want something free, you can use an old version of Firefox with Webvism.  I don't know what else is available that you pay for. 
 
If you want to use an old version of Firefox with Webvisum, let us know and list members can discuss how you do so.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 6:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] need a good accessible captcha solver

Hi list. I need a good accessible captcha solver. I tried looking for
rumola but the links do not work. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks in
advance.
Melissa



Re: Dropbox Question

Ted Galanos
 

Dropbox holds the deleted files for 30 days in case you or the others that you share with, should need to recover deleted items.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicki W
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:56 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Dropbox Question

 

I have just eliminated over 50 gigs of files from Dropbox, yet when I look in the system tray, the Dropbox remains the same size. If I add something, it gets larger, but even after deleting these 50 gigs, it gets no smaller.

 

If I look at the size of the actual Dropbox folder on my computer, it shows up smaller as it should.

 

Is there some place on the DB website that I need to go to delete the files so that the actual size showing up in my system tray will be correct?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 


Re: Dropbox Question

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Your little file you added will upload quickly, but your 15 gigs will take some time to be removed from the servers

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicki W
Sent: February 12, 2019 7:56
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Dropbox Question

 

I have just eliminated over 50 gigs of files from Dropbox, yet when I look in the system tray, the Dropbox remains the same size. If I add something, it gets larger, but even after deleting these 50 gigs, it gets no smaller.

 

If I look at the size of the actual Dropbox folder on my computer, it shows up smaller as it should.

 

Is there some place on the DB website that I need to go to delete the files so that the actual size showing up in my system tray will be correct?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 


Cereproc TTS, anybody used their products?

Walter Ramage
 

Hi Guys.  There is a Scottish company called CereProc that does TTS voices.  I would like to purchase one of these but I'm not sure if it would be compatible with JAWS.

 

Has anybody used any of their TTS voices?  The samples given are very good quality and although many are easy on the ear I do like the "Heather" voice

 

I'll paste a link for this voice below but if you want to sample any other voices then the web site is www.cereproc.com.

 

If you have used these voices or know if they are compatible with JAWS (or NVDA) then I would appreciate your comments.  Walter.

 

Link to the Heather voice.

https://www.cereproc.com/en/node/650


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Dropbox Question

Vicki W
 

I have just eliminated over 50 gigs of files from Dropbox, yet when I look in the system tray, the Dropbox remains the same size. If I add something, it gets larger, but even after deleting these 50 gigs, it gets no smaller.
 
If I look at the size of the actual Dropbox folder on my computer, it shows up smaller as it should.
 
Is there some place on the DB website that I need to go to delete the files so that the actual size showing up in my system tray will be correct?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 


Deleting Firefox Bookmarks?

Dave
 

I use Firefox for a Browser, and have a number of Bookmarks I would like
to Delete.  However, everything I try in order to Delete them, doesn't
work.  So, I am sure it is Super Simple, but I am just not understanding
how to Delete Bookmarks from Firefox.


Would someone share how this is done?


Thanks very much,


Grumpy Dave


Re: Computers For The Blind of Texas

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Gerald & list:

Interesting Compaq were considered duds brand-New.. HP bought Compaq && Digital Equipment at the same time. DEC made good stuff, not sure what happened to their many manufacturing plants.

 

From what people have told me privately, CFTB installs Jaws & ships it out the door as received, plus a copy of JAWS. This is based on my interpretation of the problems people have had with failing components.

 

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 6, 2019 11:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Computers For The Blind of Texas

 

 

Compaq was acquired by HP years ago , which means that your friend's experience is not representative of the machines CFB makes available today.  Most of their PC's are in fact, refurbished Dells, which is not surprising because they are located near Dell's corporate headquarters and they have developed a relationship with them.  Compaq computers were considered clunkers by many consumers even brand new, which is probably why HP couldn't wait to phase out the Compaq brand name once and for all in 2013.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 2/6/2019 10:30 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:

Dear David & List:

 

You stated buy a refurbished PC from CFTB. Texas.

 

They do test the PAC they receive, as they install the latest Demo of JAWS and NVDA ads well as some applications onto the Hard Disk. Then stick it in a box and send it to you, probably as Free Matter.

 

They do not check if the PC has sufficient RAM too run JAWS demo or NVDA along with an application, such as notepad or word pad or MS Word.

 

Alternatively, has enough CPU cycles to run a screen reader & an application concurrently.

 

You receive the nice used computer, eagerly plug it in and turn it on. JAWS says something. You want to write a letter to the nice Texans about your new, almost free computer/\.

 

However, instead OF echoing the letters you type snappily, there is an intolerable delay in having the speech spoken. This is because your PC has so little RAM; it must swap out the editor to disk then load JAWS, speak the letter then swap back the editor.

 

You may be able to add RAM if the motherboard has spare RAM slots or you can replace small rams with larger ones, if the motherboard can address more RAM.

 

However, as a friend of mine discovered, hiss PC was made by Compaq, which uses expensive, proprietary modules for everything, including RAM!

 

He felt cheated out of $100 as his PC was so Bare bones it was unusable. However, it came with everything it said it would!

 

His PC was smoke-damaged in the Five-Alarm Fire his parents’ house had when a defective extension cord to a TV tripped the breaker, reset by his Dad as a thousand times before, but when his Dad smelled smoke, he found the entire living room ablaze! The entire family evacuated the house safely, wearing their indoor clothes, ran to the neighbor’s house to pound on the door, shouting FIRE in January!

 

He said they had good insurance on the house. His payout for his clothes, Brailler, ham equipment typewriter etc. was $500; they said to not spend it all in one store. Yes, the Five-Alarm fire was the lead story on the local Eye Witless TV news at 6:00 PM. He said it was interesting scanner listening! First engine arrived, immediately turning in the Second Alarm. More engines & ladder companies arrived, immediately turning the Third Alarm, followed by the Fourth and Fifth.

 

There is actually a Sixth Alarm: general ALARM! Used when Mrs. O’Leary’s cow kicked over the lantern in her barn and burned down all of CHICAGO! Neighboring fire departments send engines & ladders from neighboring cities, such as Detroit, Cleveland, Erie, Toledo, Memphis, Buffalo, and Rochester Boston & NYC.

 

If you live on SSI, Food Stamps, Medicaid, with high Doctor Bills, yes consider CFTB. Otherwise, save $10 or $20 a month until a PC dealer has a sale. You do not need a monitor, although it is nice if you need sighted help. Now you have a PC, you can join a local FREENET for e-mail & file downloads. Some FREENETS have serious limits on file downloads. For a few years, I worked around this by UU-encoding a big file into smaller files the Freenet would accept. Then downloaded them one at a time and reconstituted them into the original file with uu-decode on my PC. As I downloaded the files, I deleted them from the Freenet, so no one was the wiser. Saved me a mint over joining a paid-for BBS with decent file downloads.

 

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.

 


Re: need a good accessible captcha solver

Gerald Levy
 


I just tried again to create a Webvisum invitation code,and this time, I was successful.  I must have been using the wrong link yesterday to request a code, and instead got a password reset.


Gerald



On 2/12/2019 7:57 AM, Gene wrote:
That is not correct.  You can request an invitation code from another member.  if you request one on this list, someone will send one.  I created a test account a number of months ago to make sure it could be done.  Someone on another list said it couldn't be.  I sent myself an invitation and created the test account.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] need a good accessible captcha solver


Not any more.  Unless you already have a Webvisum account, you can no longer create a Webvisum account for the first time, as I discovered yesterday.  In order for someone to register with Webvisum, they need an invitation code from an existing Webvisum account holder.  But when I signed in to my Webvisum account yesterday and submitted a request for an invitation code as a test, I instead received an email message with a new password that had been automatically generated by their email server, even though I specifically requested an invitation code.  So there is apparently no longer any means for an existing Webvisum account holder to obtain an invitation code to pass on to someone else who wants to create a Webvisum account for the first time.  And of course, because Webvisum was abandoned years ago by its developers, there is no means of contacting them.  Looks like the ball game may finally be over for Webvisum unless you already have an account.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 7:45 PM, Gene wrote:
If you want something free, you can use an old version of Firefox with Webvism.  I don't know what else is available that you pay for. 
 
If you want to use an old version of Firefox with Webvisum, let us know and list members can discuss how you do so.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 6:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] need a good accessible captcha solver

Hi list. I need a good accessible captcha solver. I tried looking for
rumola but the links do not work. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks in
advance.
Melissa



Re: Computers For The Blind of Texas

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Pam & List:

From what people have told me privately, appears CFTB does not do much testing of hardware. They plug in the donated system, install JAWS, activate it for home use for a year, turn everything off, and send it to shipping.

You get the system as donated, plus an activated copy of JAWS. The system has to power on, install JAWS correctly, install it then is powered down & sent out.

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: February 6, 2019 11:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Computers For The Blind of Texas

 

How do you know what they check or do not check?  If they install a screenreader, it would stand to reason that they have to check the computer out.  Pam.

 

Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 10:30 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Computers For The Blind of Texas

 

Dear David & List:

 

You stated buy a refurbished PC from CFTB. Texas.

 

They do test the PAC they receive, as they install the latest Demo of JAWS and NVDA ads well as some applications onto the Hard Disk. Then stick it in a box and send it to you, probably as Free Matter.

 

They do not check if the PC has sufficient RAM too run JAWS demo or NVDA along with an application, such as notepad or word pad or MS Word.

 

Alternatively, has enough CPU cycles to run a screen reader & an application concurrently.

 

You receive the nice used computer, eagerly plug it in and turn it on. JAWS says something. You want to write a letter to the nice Texans about your new, almost free computer/\.

 

However, instead OF echoing the letters you type snappily, there is an intolerable delay in having the speech spoken. This is because your PC has so little RAM; it must swap out the editor to disk then load JAWS, speak the letter then swap back the editor.

 

You may be able to add RAM if the motherboard has spare RAM slots or you can replace small rams with larger ones, if the motherboard can address more RAM.

 

However, as a friend of mine discovered, hiss PC was made by Compaq, which uses expensive, proprietary modules for everything, including RAM!

 

He felt cheated out of $100 as his PC was so Bare bones it was unusable. However, it came with everything it said it would!

 

His PC was smoke-damaged in the Five-Alarm Fire his parents’ house had when a defective extension cord to a TV tripped the breaker, reset by his Dad as a thousand times before, but when his Dad smelled smoke, he found the entire living room ablaze! The entire family evacuated the house safely, wearing their indoor clothes, ran to the neighbor’s house to pound on the door, shouting FIRE in January!

 

He said they had good insurance on the house. His payout for his clothes, Brailler, ham equipment typewriter etc. was $500; they said to not spend it all in one store. Yes, the Five-Alarm fire was the lead story on the local Eye Witless TV news at 6:00 PM. He said it was interesting scanner listening! First engine arrived, immediately turning in the Second Alarm. More engines & ladder companies arrived, immediately turning the Third Alarm, followed by the Fourth and Fifth.

 

There is actually a Sixth Alarm: general ALARM! Used when Mrs. O’Leary’s cow kicked over the lantern in her barn and burned down all of CHICAGO! Neighboring fire departments send engines & ladders from neighboring cities, such as Detroit, Cleveland, Erie, Toledo, Memphis, Buffalo, and Rochester Boston & NYC.

 

If you live on SSI, Food Stamps, Medicaid, with high Doctor Bills, yes consider CFTB. Otherwise, save $10 or $20 a month until a PC dealer has a sale. You do not need a monitor, although it is nice if you need sighted help. Now you have a PC, you can join a local FREENET for e-mail & file downloads. Some FREENETS have serious limits on file downloads. For a few years, I worked around this by UU-encoding a big file into smaller files the Freenet would accept. Then downloaded them one at a time and reconstituted them into the original file with uu-decode on my PC. As I downloaded the files, I deleted them from the Freenet, so no one was the wiser. Saved me a mint over joining a paid-for BBS with decent file downloads.

 

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.

 


Re: CFTB Satisfaction

Gerald Levy
 


No, not XP.  My refurbed CFB Dell Optiplex desktop runs Windows 7 32 bit.  I run JAWS 16 and Open Book with no problems. I can download books from BARD, use Thunderbird and search the web with IE and Firefox.  So for my purposes,this machine is more than adequate. You are probably more likely to get a machine that is rugged and robust if you order a desktop rather than a laptop.  My Dell desktop weighs at least 25 pounds, which is an indication of the heavy duty components inside.  By contrast, a laptop is designed for portability, and so its components must necessarily be lighter and therefore less robust, which means that it may not last as long.


     

Gerald



On 2/12/2019 8:57 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:

Dear Gerald & List:

I am glad your three-year old Dell desktop works well with only 2 GB of RAM and an 80 MB hard drive.

What version of Windows do you run? XP? That is about all that will fit onto your hard drive. Wonder what the CPU chip is> Download the belark advisor from: HTTPS://WWW.BELARK.COM it will tell you this and all sorts of neat information about your system. It is free for personal use.

 

Depending upon your BIOS & version of windows, you may be able to upgrade your RAM by merely unplugging the existing Ram chips and plugging in the replacements. Your hard disk controller may be on the motherboard, or a card plugged into the motherboard. If it is a card, you can upgrade the controller with a newer card and upgrade your disk drive to a modern size or at least one larger than 80 MB.

 

It is great JAWS runs on your PC with so little RAM. However, others have found their mileage varies, with systems with failing components or power supplies from CFTB. If you are handy with tools, you can replace an ailing power supply yourself. The power cables on it all have sockets, large one for the CPU smaller ones for hard or floppy disk drives or CD/DVD reader/burner.

 

As PC use switch mode power supplies, if the supply dies, it usually takes out the entire system with it! Supply fries all the chips on the motherboard & option cards with raw 120-voolt power.

 

Considering how CFTB installs JAWS on their systems & ships them out seemingly with no hardware testing, you wonder what they do to justify their $100 fee. If you have say four people sending out 20 systems each per day,, that is $8 ,000 of fees in a day. If your workers are volunteers, you pay them nothing. You do need workspace, however, you can run the shop in an industrial unit in a run-down area, long as it has good mail pickup. So you have rent to pay, a phone line, as well as a FAX line and possibly DSL or cable internet. This leaves a good pile of change to pay the Executive Director and Marketing staff. Sure buys much coffee for both the shop & office crew. Of course much depends upon how many systems they receive per day and how many blind buy. If they ship free Matter, the only cost is some duct tape to hold the cartons closed and an address label showing who it is going to.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 


Re: CFTB Satisfaction

Gene
 

I meant to say 64bit Windows won't run well with 2GB of RAM.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] CFTB Satisfaction

I know from previous discussion in other topics that this is a Windows 7 machine.  it must be 32bit Windows.  64bit Windows won't runn well with 2GB of RAM.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:57 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] CFTB Satisfaction

Dear Gerald & List:

I am glad your three-year old Dell desktop works well with only 2 GB of RAM and an 80 MB hard drive.

What version of Windows do you run? XP? That is about all that will fit onto your hard drive. Wonder what the CPU chip is> Download the belark advisor from: HTTPS://WWW.BELARK.COM it will tell you this and all sorts of neat information about your system. It is free for personal use.

 

Depending upon your BIOS & version of windows, you may be able to upgrade your RAM by merely unplugging the existing Ram chips and plugging in the replacements. Your hard disk controller may be on the motherboard, or a card plugged into the motherboard. If it is a card, you can upgrade the controller with a newer card and upgrade your disk drive to a modern size or at least one larger than 80 MB.

 

It is great JAWS runs on your PC with so little RAM. However, others have found their mileage varies, with systems with failing components or power supplies from CFTB. If you are handy with tools, you can replace an ailing power supply yourself. The power cables on it all have sockets, large one for the CPU smaller ones for hard or floppy disk drives or CD/DVD reader/burner.

 

As PC use switch mode power supplies, if the supply dies, it usually takes out the entire system with it! Supply fries all the chips on the motherboard & option cards with raw 120-voolt power.

 

Considering how CFTB installs JAWS on their systems & ships them out seemingly with no hardware testing, you wonder what they do to justify their $100 fee. If you have say four people sending out 20 systems each per day,, that is $8 ,000 of fees in a day. If your workers are volunteers, you pay them nothing. You do need workspace, however, you can run the shop in an industrial unit in a run-down area, long as it has good mail pickup. So you have rent to pay, a phone line, as well as a FAX line and possibly DSL or cable internet. This leaves a good pile of change to pay the Executive Director and Marketing staff. Sure buys much coffee for both the shop & office crew. Of course much depends upon how many systems they receive per day and how many blind buy. If they ship free Matter, the only cost is some duct tape to hold the cartons closed and an address label showing who it is going to.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 


Re: CFTB Satisfaction

Gene
 

I know from previous discussion in other topics that this is a Windows 7 machine.  it must be 32bit Windows.  64bit Windows won't runn well with 2GB of RAM.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:57 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] CFTB Satisfaction

Dear Gerald & List:

I am glad your three-year old Dell desktop works well with only 2 GB of RAM and an 80 MB hard drive.

What version of Windows do you run? XP? That is about all that will fit onto your hard drive. Wonder what the CPU chip is> Download the belark advisor from: HTTPS://WWW.BELARK.COM it will tell you this and all sorts of neat information about your system. It is free for personal use.

 

Depending upon your BIOS & version of windows, you may be able to upgrade your RAM by merely unplugging the existing Ram chips and plugging in the replacements. Your hard disk controller may be on the motherboard, or a card plugged into the motherboard. If it is a card, you can upgrade the controller with a newer card and upgrade your disk drive to a modern size or at least one larger than 80 MB.

 

It is great JAWS runs on your PC with so little RAM. However, others have found their mileage varies, with systems with failing components or power supplies from CFTB. If you are handy with tools, you can replace an ailing power supply yourself. The power cables on it all have sockets, large one for the CPU smaller ones for hard or floppy disk drives or CD/DVD reader/burner.

 

As PC use switch mode power supplies, if the supply dies, it usually takes out the entire system with it! Supply fries all the chips on the motherboard & option cards with raw 120-voolt power.

 

Considering how CFTB installs JAWS on their systems & ships them out seemingly with no hardware testing, you wonder what they do to justify their $100 fee. If you have say four people sending out 20 systems each per day,, that is $8 ,000 of fees in a day. If your workers are volunteers, you pay them nothing. You do need workspace, however, you can run the shop in an industrial unit in a run-down area, long as it has good mail pickup. So you have rent to pay, a phone line, as well as a FAX line and possibly DSL or cable internet. This leaves a good pile of change to pay the Executive Director and Marketing staff. Sure buys much coffee for both the shop & office crew. Of course much depends upon how many systems they receive per day and how many blind buy. If they ship free Matter, the only cost is some duct tape to hold the cartons closed and an address label showing who it is going to.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 


Re: CFTB Satisfaction

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Brian,

My computer, which I purchased from CFTB, also contained an 80 GB hard drive with 3 GB of RAM. Windows 7 was installed on that machine and there was more than enough space to accommodate the OS along with NVDA, OpenOffice, my browser, email client and documents.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 2/12/2019 8:57 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:

Dear Gerald & List:

I am glad your three-year old Dell desktop works well with only 2 GB of RAM and an 80 MB hard drive.

What version of Windows do you run? XP? That is about all that will fit onto your hard drive. Wonder what the CPU chip is> Download the belark advisor from: HTTPS://WWW.BELARK.COM it will tell you this and all sorts of neat information about your system. It is free for personal use.

 

Depending upon your BIOS & version of windows, you may be able to upgrade your RAM by merely unplugging the existing Ram chips and plugging in the replacements. Your hard disk controller may be on the motherboard, or a card plugged into the motherboard. If it is a card, you can upgrade the controller with a newer card and upgrade your disk drive to a modern size or at least one larger than 80 MB.

 

It is great JAWS runs on your PC with so little RAM. However, others have found their mileage varies, with systems with failing components or power supplies from CFTB. If you are handy with tools, you can replace an ailing power supply yourself. The power cables on it all have sockets, large one for the CPU smaller ones for hard or floppy disk drives or CD/DVD reader/burner.

 

As PC use switch mode power supplies, if the supply dies, it usually takes out the entire system with it! Supply fries all the chips on the motherboard & option cards with raw 120-voolt power.

 

Considering how CFTB installs JAWS on their systems & ships them out seemingly with no hardware testing, you wonder what they do to justify their $100 fee. If you have say four people sending out 20 systems each per day,, that is $8 ,000 of fees in a day. If your workers are volunteers, you pay them nothing. You do need workspace, however, you can run the shop in an industrial unit in a run-down area, long as it has good mail pickup. So you have rent to pay, a phone line, as well as a FAX line and possibly DSL or cable internet. This leaves a good pile of change to pay the Executive Director and Marketing staff. Sure buys much coffee for both the shop & office crew. Of course much depends upon how many systems they receive per day and how many blind buy. If they ship free Matter, the only cost is some duct tape to hold the cartons closed and an address label showing who it is going to.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 


CFTB Satisfaction

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Gerald & List:

I am glad your three-year old Dell desktop works well with only 2 GB of RAM and an 80 MB hard drive.

What version of Windows do you run? XP? That is about all that will fit onto your hard drive. Wonder what the CPU chip is> Download the belark advisor from: HTTPS://WWW.BELARK.COM it will tell you this and all sorts of neat information about your system. It is free for personal use.

 

Depending upon your BIOS & version of windows, you may be able to upgrade your RAM by merely unplugging the existing Ram chips and plugging in the replacements. Your hard disk controller may be on the motherboard, or a card plugged into the motherboard. If it is a card, you can upgrade the controller with a newer card and upgrade your disk drive to a modern size or at least one larger than 80 MB.

 

It is great JAWS runs on your PC with so little RAM. However, others have found their mileage varies, with systems with failing components or power supplies from CFTB. If you are handy with tools, you can replace an ailing power supply yourself. The power cables on it all have sockets, large one for the CPU smaller ones for hard or floppy disk drives or CD/DVD reader/burner.

 

As PC use switch mode power supplies, if the supply dies, it usually takes out the entire system with it! Supply fries all the chips on the motherboard & option cards with raw 120-voolt power.

 

Considering how CFTB installs JAWS on their systems & ships them out seemingly with no hardware testing, you wonder what they do to justify their $100 fee. If you have say four people sending out 20 systems each per day,, that is $8 ,000 of fees in a day. If your workers are volunteers, you pay them nothing. You do need workspace, however, you can run the shop in an industrial unit in a run-down area, long as it has good mail pickup. So you have rent to pay, a phone line, as well as a FAX line and possibly DSL or cable internet. This leaves a good pile of change to pay the Executive Director and Marketing staff. Sure buys much coffee for both the shop & office crew. Of course much depends upon how many systems they receive per day and how many blind buy. If they ship free Matter, the only cost is some duct tape to hold the cartons closed and an address label showing who it is going to.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 


Re: need a good accessible captcha solver

Gerald Levy
 


What you are describing is a new kind of captcha that only a pair of working eyeballs can solve.  Instead of deciphering a string of distorted alphanumeric characters as with a conventional captcha, you have to identify an object displayed on the web page such as a set of blocks or a teapot. Obviously, no captcha solving program that uses algorithms like Webvisum would be able to solve such a captcha.  Maybe a smart phone with the Be My Eyes app might work for solving this type of captcha, but certainly not Webvisum.


Gerald



On 2/12/2019 8:03 AM, Lisa Belville wrote:

In addition to what Gerald writes below, many newer web sites have CAPTCHAsS that Webvism doesn't recognize.  I received a Walmart gift card for Christmas and Webvism didn't know there was a CAPTCHA on the page even though there is a graphic and an edit form to plug in what the graphic says.  Webvism said there was no CAPTCHA to solve.


This wasn't the Walmart retail shopping page, it was one exclusively for Walmart gift cards.


I never got Rumola up and running, so that doesn't work for me, either.


Lisa


Lisa Belville

missktlab1217@...
On 2/12/2019 5:51 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


Not any more.  Unless you already have a Webvisum account, you can no longer create a Webvisum account for the first time, as I discovered yesterday.  In order for someone to register with Webvisum, they need an invitation code from an existing Webvisum account holder.  But when I signed in to my Webvisum account yesterday and submitted a request for an invitation code as a test, I instead received an email message with a new password that had been automatically generated by their email server, even though I specifically requested an invitation code.  So there is apparently no longer any means for an existing Webvisum account holder to obtain an invitation code to pass on to someone else who wants to create a Webvisum account for the first time.  And of course, because Webvisum was abandoned years ago by its developers, there is no means of contacting them.  Looks like the ball game may finally be over for Webvisum unless you already have an account.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 7:45 PM, Gene wrote:
If you want something free, you can use an old version of Firefox with Webvism.  I don't know what else is available that you pay for. 
 
If you want to use an old version of Firefox with Webvisum, let us know and list members can discuss how you do so.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 6:34 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] need a good accessible captcha solver

Hi list. I need a good accessible captcha solver. I tried looking for
rumola but the links do not work. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks in
advance.
Melissa



Re: need a good accessible captcha solver

Gerald Levy
 


Be very careful.  Captcha Be Gone appears to be a scam.  There are reports of people signing up for the service for $36 a year only to discover that it does not work, and that there is no way to contact the developer for a refund, which can only be obtained through PayPal.  And Rumola, which only charged 99 cents a year for 20 captchas, no longerseems to work,either.  Click on the link below for a discussion of problems with Captcha Be Gone and Rumola:


https://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=24467



Gerald


On 2/12/2019 8:07 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

For years I've used Rumola but lately the page containing their Google extension generates a "not found" message. I have just written to them to see if they are going away or if the extension will be returning.

There's also another paid solution called Captcha be Gone but I have not used it.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 2/12/2019 4:51 AM, chris judge wrote:
We all need a good captcha solver, smile. If you have a smart phone, be my eyes is your answer. If not, not sure what to suggest.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Melissa
Sent: February 11, 2019 8:35 PM
To: TechTalk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] need a good accessible captcha solver

Hi list. I need a good accessible captcha solver. I tried looking for rumola but the links do not work. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.
Melissa







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