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Re: help with office 365 please

chris judge
 

If you are willing or able to pay, www.blindtraining.com has a comprehensive text book on learning word 2016, as well as many other books. I've found them to be a great help over the years.
Freedom scientific might have a free webinar on the topic as well, I'm not sure. I know they have one for outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrien Collins
Sent: February 16, 2019 9:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] help with office 365 please

Hi

I am using office 2016 or office 365, I was trying to find a particular function in word, where can I find a complete list of keyboard shortcuts please and also are there any tutorials for learning word as it is very complex in its own way. Many thanks.

Regards

Adrien G0mun

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help with office 365 please

Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...>
 

Hi

I am using office 2016 or office 365, I was trying to find a particular function in word, where can I find a complete list of keyboard shortcuts please and also are there any tutorials for learning word as it is very complex in its own way. Many thanks.

Regards

Adrien G0mun

I run a group on groups.io, to join the group:
best-circle-of-friends+subscribe@groups.io
facebook page at bestcircleoffriends, just do a search for it.

Skype with me on adriencollins06


Re: the DTBM machine from nls

Gene
 

I'm not saying this as a negative criticism but could you please try to catch up in your messages?  The director of Computers for the Blind asked me to poast a response to one of your previous messages.  You might have responded differently if you had seen his response. 
 
After reading the response, I'll say that his company has received a lot of recognition.  You are citing examples that may not be at all representative of the general experience.  Two or three people who had problems out of how many thousands of computers distributed over the last two or three years?  Also, the response says that its sources of computers is significantly changing, that they do refund money.  please don't comment further until you see the response, which I sent included in one of my messages as requested.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

Dear Gene & List:

Yes this true. However I did receive a couple of responses from people having received a PC within the last couple of months with failing components. This is recent experience to me.

 

I suppose you decide if you want repurposed from CFTB or lease end machines from a local dealer. The local dealer often includes a 30-day warranty on used machines they sell. CFTB appears not to do this. You pay your money, take your chances. Seems CFTB generally sends good PC, not sure what refurbishing they do. Turning the system on to load JAWS does prove the system worked for a little while. Also no idea what version of Windows you get. XP is support discontinued, windows 7 has a year or so to go. If the system will support Windows 10, it has plenty of life left in the O/S. SURE HOPE NO donated systems run Windows 97, 98 or VISTA. If they upgraded the windows to 10, version 18-009, that would be good and you know it runs current windows. This is true when you buy a lease-end return at a local dealer. However, at the dealer, you can call up the machine specs and check the CPU YOU GET AND RAM. The dealer can also stuff the PC or laptop full of RAM if you wish. Tech support for the system’s makers will be able to say how much RA<M it can use. My mobile workstation has 64 GB of RAM. I figure that should accommodate any foreseeable windows upgrade requirement. Also has Xenon CPU, recommended for HD number crunching. Will I use all these features regularly? Probably not. However, it is nice to know they are available for the day I run the Decennial Census of the United States, its Territories & Possessions on my laptop. I figure that job would require perhaps TWO    months of steady running and about 100 reams of printer paper, with 25 toner refills. If I had a {Production Printer, might require just one brand-new toner cartridge. Not sure if the Decennial Census prints any charts in color. If it does, would likely require a few complete toner refills, including the colors.

Of course I WILL not run the Decennial Census on my laptop, however, should I have a computation-intensive task, I have the processor for it. Suppose if you expect many CPU-intensive tasks, buy a HD Server chip with 64 cores running at 4.8 GHz. Should rival the speed of an IBM 3090 mainframe.

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 11, 2019 1:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

 

It is never valid to critique a business or organization because of what may have been the case years ago. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:52 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

 

Dear Ann & List:
A friend in Oregon received a desktop from them years ago, and had some private responses from people who read a previous message, their difficulties were PC which had failing hardware, not lack of RAM or

The friend had the PC with insufficient RAM. He said he could add more , however, did nothing to get information on what this would cost or who does this upgrade on Compaq PC in his area. PC was smoke damaged when his parents' house had a five-alarm fire that burned it to the foundations. His share of the fire insurance payout was so low he only partially replaced clothing and other things, PC, ham equipment and Brailler have never been replaced. Guess the policy had insufficient contents coverage on house. Unfortunately, we blind people require much expensive things to live a normal life. Donors may be donating fewer under  powered CPU PC. Guess businesses have upgraded the specs on computers they buy.

Perhaps these were isolated incidents, but not sure if CFTB offers any sort of warranty, like if the PC you bought doesn't work, send it back, we will send you another one. The idea is great, repurpose used PC too people with a disability on low income, but the donors donate everything they no longer use, including PC that require repairs, which may cost more than a new PC on sale.

I stand by my original comment that if you are absolutely destitute, CFTB will get you a used PC, however, if you buy from a retail dealer, the PC will usually have a 30-dayy warranty, one year or 90-days if new from a US dealer. If you wish a high-spec PC so kids can play video games, start saving. Also, ask the kids who will be playing video games for contributions to the new PC. This shows they are willing to support the purchase, not just cheap skates..

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
Sent: February 6, 2019 8:28 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

Hi all,

Brian, what evidence do you have that your assertions are correct?  I have heard nothing but good about the Texas outfit.

Ann P.


> Dear Gene, Sandra & Liszt:

> Beware of Computers for the blind in Texas! They ship out computers
>
exactly as received. No guarantee the JAWS demo or NVDA screenreader
>
they provide will be able to run with an application program due to
> insufficient RAM.

> You may receive a good PC or one with failing parts, which work for a
>
week, or two then give grief. Depending upon the maker of the PC, you
>
receive; it may require expensive, proprietary parts for everything,
> such as RAM modules. Want to upgrade the CPU? If it has an older
>
motherboard, this may be impossible even if the chip is socketed.

> They offer a discount off their $100 fee if you provide proof of SSI
>
or welfare etc.

> If you are destitute, try them if you can afford to buy a $100 or $60
>
lemon PC. Otherwise shop around the PC dealers, look for lease returns
>
with a decent CPU, affordable RAM upgrade, respectable size Hard Disk,
> screen that works in the event you need sighted help with something.
> Lease return & open box buyers buy hundreds of PC by auction sale. If
>
they buy a dud, they scrap it, they buy these PC for pennies on the
> Dollar, and so an occasional lemon does not bankrupt them.

> Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
>
Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: January 31, 2019 5:09 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

> You can get a computer for, I believe, about 100 dollars from a place
>
in Texas. Other list members will be able to give you more information.
> You may or may not want to spend money on this machine but just to
>
have it looked at, while I haven't checked prices for years, I doubt
> will cost you more than fifty or seventy dollars.
Gene
From: Sandra Streeter <mailto:sandrastreeter381@...>

> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 2:45 PM

> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

> Even as non-techy and as technophobe as I tend to be, I had begun to
>
puzzle out exactly those points. Unfortunately, no restore-point
>
available from that time, or I would have gladly taken me back there!

> Sandra
> “Do not waste time bothering whether you ‘love’ your neighbor; act as
>
if you did? As soon as we do this, we find one of the great secrets.
> When you are behaving as if you loved someone, you will presently come
>
to love him.”
> ― C. S. Lewis

> From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 3:21 PM

> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

> I did not see the first message but if I understand your second one,
>
the computer does not shut down when you are doing a scan. That would
>
seem to preclude heat as an issue unless people know that such
> programs prevent shutdowns. I doubt they do and it might be dangerous
>
for the computer if they did. If you are saying that every twenty
>
minutes of use, your computer automatically shuts down, that does not
> sound like a heat issue either. A heat issue would not be so perfectly
>
timed and, remember that the computer, presumably, is booted again
> after a shut down. It then runs for twenty more minutes. If it is
>
already hot enough to shut down once and it is rebooted immediately
> and continued to be used, it would not take twenty more minutes for
> the machine to become hot enough to shut down again. It would already
>
be almost hot enough when rebooted.

> It may be that some logs, which a technically knowledgeable person can
>
look at, might give some information. It may be that, if you have a
>
system restore point from before the problem started, that running it
> might solve the problem.

> Gene
From: Sandra Streeter <mailto:sandrastreeter381@...>

> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 1:22 PM

> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

> Yeah; as far as I know, fans are as usual. Scans with MB and MSE,
>
several times over, have come up with nothing. The only time
>
everything is workable is when I am actually running the MSE deep
> scan. Am too much of a nod-initiate to want to totally re-install Win.
> Seven, so am hoping for a less-involved possible solution. Not willing
>
to pay
> $300.00 to have someone
> troubleshoot and fix if possible, so doing what I can for now... Hope
>
this gives you, more 411 to go on! It has been like this for about 2
>
weeks. Sandra “Do not waste time bothering whether you ‘love’ your
>
neighbor act as if you did? As soon as we do this, we find one of the
>
great secrets. When you are behaving as if you loved someone, you will
>
presently come to love him.” ― C.  S. Lewis

> From: Dave Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 2:09 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>Subject:
> Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls Sandra, Your Computer shuts
>
down after 20 minutes? it over heating? Is there a Fan, and does it
>
run? Dave




Re: the DTBM machine from nls

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Brian,

Did you read the post from the head of CFTB? They are giving out Win10 computers. Please, either read the responses you get or refrain from posting like this.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: the DTBM machine from nls

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Gene & List:

Yes this true. However I did receive a couple of responses from people having received a PC within the last couple of months with failing components. This is recent experience to me.

 

I suppose you decide if you want repurposed from CFTB or lease end machines from a local dealer. The local dealer often includes a 30-day warranty on used machines they sell. CFTB appears not to do this. You pay your money, take your chances. Seems CFTB generally sends good PC, not sure what refurbishing they do. Turning the system on to load JAWS does prove the system worked for a little while. Also no idea what version of Windows you get. XP is support discontinued, windows 7 has a year or so to go. If the system will support Windows 10, it has plenty of life left in the O/S. SURE HOPE NO donated systems run Windows 97, 98 or VISTA. If they upgraded the windows to 10, version 18-009, that would be good and you know it runs current windows. This is true when you buy a lease-end return at a local dealer. However, at the dealer, you can call up the machine specs and check the CPU YOU GET AND RAM. The dealer can also stuff the PC or laptop full of RAM if you wish. Tech support for the system’s makers will be able to say how much RA<M it can use. My mobile workstation has 64 GB of RAM. I figure that should accommodate any foreseeable windows upgrade requirement. Also has Xenon CPU, recommended for HD number crunching. Will I use all these features regularly? Probably not. However, it is nice to know they are available for the day I run the Decennial Census of the United States, its Territories & Possessions on my laptop. I figure that job would require perhaps TWO    months of steady running and about 100 reams of printer paper, with 25 toner refills. If I had a {Production Printer, might require just one brand-new toner cartridge. Not sure if the Decennial Census prints any charts in color. If it does, would likely require a few complete toner refills, including the colors.

Of course I WILL not run the Decennial Census on my laptop, however, should I have a computation-intensive task, I have the processor for it. Suppose if you expect many CPU-intensive tasks, buy a HD Server chip with 64 cores running at 4.8 GHz. Should rival the speed of an IBM 3090 mainframe.

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 11, 2019 1:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

 

It is never valid to critique a business or organization because of what may have been the case years ago. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:52 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

 

Dear Ann & List:
A friend in Oregon received a desktop from them years ago, and had some private responses from people who read a previous message, their difficulties were PC which had failing hardware, not lack of RAM or

The friend had the PC with insufficient RAM. He said he could add more , however, did nothing to get information on what this would cost or who does this upgrade on Compaq PC in his area. PC was smoke damaged when his parents' house had a five-alarm fire that burned it to the foundations. His share of the fire insurance payout was so low he only partially replaced clothing and other things, PC, ham equipment and Brailler have never been replaced. Guess the policy had insufficient contents coverage on house. Unfortunately, we blind people require much expensive things to live a normal life. Donors may be donating fewer under  powered CPU PC. Guess businesses have upgraded the specs on computers they buy.

Perhaps these were isolated incidents, but not sure if CFTB offers any sort of warranty, like if the PC you bought doesn't work, send it back, we will send you another one. The idea is great, repurpose used PC too people with a disability on low income, but the donors donate everything they no longer use, including PC that require repairs, which may cost more than a new PC on sale.

I stand by my original comment that if you are absolutely destitute, CFTB will get you a used PC, however, if you buy from a retail dealer, the PC will usually have a 30-dayy warranty, one year or 90-days if new from a US dealer. If you wish a high-spec PC so kids can play video games, start saving. Also, ask the kids who will be playing video games for contributions to the new PC. This shows they are willing to support the purchase, not just cheap skates..

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
Sent: February 6, 2019 8:28 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

Hi all,

Brian, what evidence do you have that your assertions are correct?  I have heard nothing but good about the Texas outfit.

Ann P.


> Dear Gene, Sandra & Liszt:

> Beware of Computers for the blind in Texas! They ship out computers
>
exactly as received. No guarantee the JAWS demo or NVDA screenreader
>
they provide will be able to run with an application program due to
> insufficient RAM.

> You may receive a good PC or one with failing parts, which work for a
>
week, or two then give grief. Depending upon the maker of the PC, you
>
receive; it may require expensive, proprietary parts for everything,
> such as RAM modules. Want to upgrade the CPU? If it has an older
>
motherboard, this may be impossible even if the chip is socketed.

> They offer a discount off their $100 fee if you provide proof of SSI
>
or welfare etc.

> If you are destitute, try them if you can afford to buy a $100 or $60
>
lemon PC. Otherwise shop around the PC dealers, look for lease returns
>
with a decent CPU, affordable RAM upgrade, respectable size Hard Disk,
> screen that works in the event you need sighted help with something.
> Lease return & open box buyers buy hundreds of PC by auction sale. If
>
they buy a dud, they scrap it, they buy these PC for pennies on the
> Dollar, and so an occasional lemon does not bankrupt them.

> Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
>
Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: January 31, 2019 5:09 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

> You can get a computer for, I believe, about 100 dollars from a place
>
in Texas. Other list members will be able to give you more information.
> You may or may not want to spend money on this machine but just to
>
have it looked at, while I haven't checked prices for years, I doubt
> will cost you more than fifty or seventy dollars.
Gene
From: Sandra Streeter <mailto:sandrastreeter381@...>

> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 2:45 PM

> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

> Even as non-techy and as technophobe as I tend to be, I had begun to
>
puzzle out exactly those points. Unfortunately, no restore-point
>
available from that time, or I would have gladly taken me back there!

> Sandra
> “Do not waste time bothering whether you ‘love’ your neighbor; act as
>
if you did? As soon as we do this, we find one of the great secrets.
> When you are behaving as if you loved someone, you will presently come
>
to love him.”
> ― C. S. Lewis

> From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 3:21 PM

> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

> I did not see the first message but if I understand your second one,
>
the computer does not shut down when you are doing a scan. That would
>
seem to preclude heat as an issue unless people know that such
> programs prevent shutdowns. I doubt they do and it might be dangerous
>
for the computer if they did. If you are saying that every twenty
>
minutes of use, your computer automatically shuts down, that does not
> sound like a heat issue either. A heat issue would not be so perfectly
>
timed and, remember that the computer, presumably, is booted again
> after a shut down. It then runs for twenty more minutes. If it is
>
already hot enough to shut down once and it is rebooted immediately
> and continued to be used, it would not take twenty more minutes for
> the machine to become hot enough to shut down again. It would already
>
be almost hot enough when rebooted.

> It may be that some logs, which a technically knowledgeable person can
>
look at, might give some information. It may be that, if you have a
>
system restore point from before the problem started, that running it
> might solve the problem.

> Gene
From: Sandra Streeter <mailto:sandrastreeter381@...>

> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 1:22 PM

> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls

> Yeah; as far as I know, fans are as usual. Scans with MB and MSE,
>
several times over, have come up with nothing. The only time
>
everything is workable is when I am actually running the MSE deep
> scan. Am too much of a nod-initiate to want to totally re-install Win.
> Seven, so am hoping for a less-involved possible solution. Not willing
>
to pay
> $300.00 to have someone
> troubleshoot and fix if possible, so doing what I can for now... Hope
>
this gives you, more 411 to go on! It has been like this for about 2
>
weeks. Sandra “Do not waste time bothering whether you ‘love’ your
>
neighbor act as if you did? As soon as we do this, we find one of the
>
great secrets. When you are behaving as if you loved someone, you will
>
presently come to love him.” ― C.  S. Lewis

> From: Dave Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 2:09 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>Subject:
> Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls Sandra, Your Computer shuts
>
down after 20 minutes? it over heating? Is there a Fan, and does it
>
run? Dave




Re: where to buy usb cables

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

James, my fellow Denverite, I am quite sure that you can grab any number of
USB cables at Walmart; if it fails, give Bestbuy a shot! Without a doubt,
Microcenter or even Action Computers will have tons of USB cables for sale.

If you want them a bit cheaper, give amazon.com, newegg.com and similarly
situated sites a try. Aha, Office Depot and Staples are your friends too
for USB cables. Lastly, I've seen them at Home Depot and Sam's Club!

If getting to any of these places is a challenge, and you are willing to
contact me privately, I can run one by the house for you and this is
assuming you're looking for the regular one, not a Type C or the Micro
variety!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


JAWS2019 NotStarting@Boot

Smiling?
 

There have been some of you who in the past wrote in about JAWS2019 not automatically starting with your system. I’m not sure to why JAWS2019 isn’t allowing JAWS to boot with the machine. It doesn’t seem to allow the setting to stick after we OK it for whatever reasons. I’ve noticed this for a while, it just didn’t bother me too much, but this morning entirely out of curiosity I wanted to discover why which is why I wrote up the steps below so it will boot with the machine.

 

JAWS2019 not automatically starting after rebooting your system (this can also be used for any actual versions of JAWS).

 

1. Go to the shortcut icon for JAWS upon your desktop (and if you do not have one, simply create one [instructions below]) if you do have one though, copy it to your clipboard by using the simple Control+C command.

2. now, open up the Run dialogue box by using the shortcut key Windows+R.

3. Type in (it's not case sensitive) and press enter.

shell:startup

4. This is going to place you within where you will want to paste what you earlier copied to your clipboard which is in the Startup folder.

5. So just Control+V to paste this JAWS shortcut after you press enter from the Run Dialogue. you shouldn't have difficulties with JAWS automatically starting up with your machine anymore.

 

Creating a JAWS shortcut icon on your desktop:

1. Open up Program Files and highlight/select Freedom Scientific pressing enter.

2. Now highlight/select the JAWS folder and press enter.

3. Once again, highlight/select whichever version of JAWS it is that you are interested in dealing with and press enter to open up the folder.

4. Now type JF and you should jump right to the JFW.exe file which is what you want.

5. Using your Applications key ( or Shift+F10) hit the letter N which is going to take you to Send to submenu.

6. You can arrow down 2 or 3 times I believe to create shortcut on desktop and simply press enter.

7. Now you have a desktop shortcut to in this case whichever version of JAWS it is that you have selectively chosen.

 


Windows10,SafeMode&Narrator

Smiling?
 

I have not done this myself yet, but I thought that many of you would find this not only interesting, but worthy of being shared. Based upon the publishing date below, this has been available since May of last year.

 

Published on May 22, 2018

For the first time ever, if you’re a screen reader user, you can use Narrator in Safe Mode to troubleshoot your computer. This video will walk through how to boot into Safe Mode and launch Narrator.

 

Use Narrator in Safe Mode on Windows 10 - YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdjzJXpCL4g

 


Re: customer service jobs

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Carolyn & List:
Friend of mine was working as a Medical Transcriber from home, they changed
editing programs to one from Nuance, makers of Dragon Dictate, which just
did not work with JAWS or would require extensive scripting which her
employer was not prepared to pay. Suppose she could have looked into funding
from Vocational Rehab for the scripting, however decided to retire rather
than do this.

She found work from home could resemble an electronic sweatshop, you receive
a phone call from the supervisor if you stop typing for more than one or two
minutes asking why no typing. One firm gave Canadian employees our statutory
holidays off with pay, however, the Americans only received U. S.
Thanksgiving & Christmas Day as paid holidays, did not even get Independence
Day or Labor Day off automatically. The Canadians were paid double the
American rate of 7.5 ¢ per 65-character line. Much depended upon who your
supervisor was. Some watched the transcribers like a hawk, others not so
much.
Terri Lynne:
Yes, it is a pproblem when a firm switches to a non-accessible pprogram. If
they specify the programmers must use standard controls for the application,
it should work well with JAWS or Voiceover. However, some programmers do not
use a button for the buttons they show on screen, just something they cooked
up themselves which claims to be a button. It may respond to the space bar
as a true button does, or require a left click from JAWS because it only
responds to the mouse.
Many applications are poorly written from an Accessibility standpoint.
Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: February 10, 2019 8:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] customer service jobs

The last job I had with a medical transcription service was terminated,
because of a program that was not accessible.
They got the designers to research, because they had had good blind
employees. It's a blow when something like that happens. Best regards,
Carolyn
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Terri Lynne Pomeroy
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 4:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] customer service jobs

Dear Olusegun,
Let me just first say that we are so blessed by all of the accessibility
given to us by technology. I grew up with university books on reel to reel
tape with no way to find page numbers, no way to mark things, no way to
speed it up or slow it down ...

But the problem with all of the exciting new technology is that there are so
many platforms and new programs built by techies who never even heard of a
screen reader. We had one company here which hired a number of blind people
to work through them for Verizon. Then Verizon changed their program and
suddenly people who were blind or visually impaired could no longer access
their customer service programs.

I used to work for Continental Airlines as did several other people who were
blind. But they, too, have redone their program so that it is not accessible
to screen readers.

There is and probably always will be a need for people to interface with
companies in a positive way to see if their programs can't be made
accessible. JAWS scripts might also be helpful in some cases.

Terri Lynne From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates
LTD, Inc.
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 1:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] customer service jobs

Gerald, I don't have problems understanding CSR's located outside the United
States! As a matter of fact, I became friends with a few and corresponded
with them on and off for quite sometime. I barely call Customer Service
anymore cause I'm able to resolve most computer issues by tinkering, getting
in and out of trouble with my toys. I have had friends from the
Philippines, India and Jamaica.
The individual from Jamaica worked at amazon.com/ I had called to enquire
about a product that had not been delivered in the stated timeframe.

Without a doubt, it would be great if real CSR jobs could be given to
individuals with disabilities right here who are able to work. I wonder how
much the likes of amazon, Google Apple and Microsoft are doing in this
regard.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Three differing types of USB chords?

Chris G <chris@...>
 

Hi Vicky,


USB C has a flat  end that is just a little larger than the Apple lightning end and can go in either way.

Micro has two little bumps that you can feel and can only go in one way.

Mini has what feels like a ridge along the left and right side of the end and again can only go in one way.


Mini isn't used too much anymore.  Micro is the most common these days and USB C is becoming more popular with new phones.


You can definitely tell them apart.

Hope this helps,

Chris



On 2/15/2019 8:59 PM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hello List, Can anyone here describe how to tell by touch the micro USB a chord verses USB B chord from the USB C chord? I am hoping that the ends are distinctive in some way.

 

Thank you very much!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 




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Re: headsets?

Chris G <chris@...>
 

Hi,

It is over the head and Stereo.

Chris

On 2/15/2019 8:46 PM, Missa wrote:
I have a couple of questions about the headset.
It says overear, but I couldn't seem to find if it was over the head
or around the head?
I have a headset for my iphone that I love and I've been hard pressed
to find a replacement for it. I prefer around the head style for lots
of reasons.
My other question is regarding the sound. Is the quality clear? Some
headsets/phones I've tried have had too much bass that I couldn't
adjust that made it hard to hear my screenreader.Is the quality
crisp/clear?


thanks bunches
On 2/14/19, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
I know you said you prefer to use Amazon, and the headset I'm about to
recommend is available there, but if you buy the Sharkk Aura Headset from
Mystic Access, it comes with an audio tutorial on an SD card, as do all
products from this site.
This company is designed with the blind in mind. They not only offer
speakers and headsets with tutorials, but they also offer classes and
tutorials on a variety of asistive technology topics. There's also a podcast
with new episodes released every two weeks. You can visit them at
http://www.mysticaccess.com.
I love my Sharkk Aura headset. I'm using it right now with my PC as I type
this. It also works well with my BrailleNote Touch and my Victor Reader
Trek. There's very little latency, and the sound is terrific. It's designed
to work with cell phones, smart phones, and other devices as well. The
in-line microphone works pretty well. It also comes with a standard
headphone chord that you can plug into any device without Bluetooth.
It's probably a little more expensive from Mystic Access, but the excellent
tutorial on how to use it is well worth it. Alternatively, you can buy the
headset from Amazon and just the tutorial from Mystic Access, but it would
probably be about the same price, so you may as well use Mystic Access as
your one-stop shopping for your headphone needs. I hope this is helpful.
Happy listening.




Re: Looking for an acessible contact manager

Chris G <chris@...>
 

Isn't there a notes field?

On 2/15/2019 4:01 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
It does look good, but there's nothing in it that makes it possible to record any historical information about a contact.


On 2/15/2019 2:59 AM, Chris G wrote:
Hi,

Check out Handy Address Book from:

https://www.beiley.com/habook/


The last time I used it it was very accessible.  It might fill your needs.



On 2/14/2019 9:56 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
I need to keep names, email addresses, telephone numbers, and a contact history--last contact date, notes on contact, follow-up date, those kinds of things; stuff you'd associate with sales and marketing. Suggestions welcome.


Re: customer service jobs

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Olusegun & List:
Firms in the USA & many countries worship the almighty quarterly income
statement. Unless the shareholders require the firm to employ U. S. people
with major disabilities, such as blind, deaf, motor impairments etc. the
firm will hire people who can do the required job for the least money. This
usually means foreigners, in Jamaica, India, the Philippines or China. I
suppose the labor contractors in these countries could have policies in
place to hire the disabled if available, but have never heard of this. If
the U. S. firms hiring them insisted upon this, they would have to.
Similarly, if the labor law in their nation required them to hire persons
with serious disabilities first, they would also have to hire the disabled.
Try lobbying the Governments of Jamaica, the Philippines, India etc. to hire
people with disabilities first if available. Had a tech support rep in the
Honduras or thereabouts who spoke English with an American accent. He
attended College in the u. S. for four-years which gave him his American
style of speaking. Unless he had told me he was in Central America, I would
have never known he was not in Chicago or Fort Worth. He had absolutely no
hint of Spanish in his speech.
rian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: February 10, 2019 3:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] customer service jobs

Gerald, I don't have problems understanding CSR's located outside the United
States! As a matter of fact, I became friends with a few and corresponded
with them on and off for quite some time. I barely call Customer Service
anymore cause I'm able to resolve most computer issues by tinkering, getting
in and out of trouble with my toys. I have had friends from the
Philippines, India and Jamaica. The individual from Jamaica worked at
amazon.com/ I had called to enquire about a product that had not been
delivered in the stated timeframe.

Without a doubt, it would be great if real CSR jobs could be given to
individuals with disabilities right here who are able to work. I wonder how
much the likes of amazon, Google Apple and Microsoft are doing in this
regard.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Updated "Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA" draft published for wide review

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Janina Sajka [
mailto:janina@...]

Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 1:26 PM
To:
public-wai-announce@...

Cc: W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures
<public-apa@...>
;
public-rqtf@...
;
public-wai-cc@...

Subject: Updated "Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA" draft published for wide review

Dear Colleagues:

The Accessible Platform Architectures (APA) Working Group, with the strong assistance of its Research Questions Task Force (RQTF) has published an updated
draft of "Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA." This newly revised and updated draft is available here:

https://www.w3.org/TR/2019/WD-turingtest-20190214/


We request wide review of this draft by 24 March. If reviewer comments indicate there are still issues with this draft, we will continue editing. On the
other hand, if we have sufficiently addressed current issues with CAPTCHA related approaches used on the web today in the view of the preponderance of
our reviewers, we will proceed to release this draft as Version 2.0 of a document first published as a W3C Note in 2005. It is for this reason that we
ask you to read this document carefully and respond with your view by 24March.

Further details about this publication, including specific questions we would like reviewers to address, together with instructions for responding are
provided in a blog post available here:

https://www.w3.org/blog/2019/02/captcha-accessibility-wide-review/


Please feel free to circulate this request and our draft widely.

Thanking you in advance for your time and consideration on behalf of RQTF and APA,

Janina Sajka,
APA Chair

--

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:
http://a11y.org


The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures
http://www.w3.org/wai/apa



--
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Re: Trouble reading messages in Windows Mail App

Sharon Hooley
 

Actually, I was using NVDA, but I don't remember if I tried Narrator in this app.


On 2/15/2019 4:03 PM, heather albright wrote:

Yes, jaws does not work in the mail app; they have not fixed it. I too use narrator or nvda when checking mail. If you use jaws, it freezes up and you have to cloes the app and wait for jas to come back! Just another annoying thing that freedom has these days. Heather

 

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...
sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
An Accessible Online Library:
www.bookshare.org

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 4:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Trouble reading messages in Windows Mail App

 

Hi!

I am arrowing down and up to get to my messages in the mail app.

I use Narrator, the built in screen reader, because JAWS does not work in the mail app.

Also, NVDA works as well.

Your conversations should be in a list that you can arrow to.

Have a great one.

David Moore

 

                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sharon Hooley
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:08 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Trouble reading messages in Windows Mail App

 

I used to be able to read my messages in the Windows Mail app just by arrowing down.  But now I only see a navigation button.  How do I get this back the way it was?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids?  Visit

www.CochlearAmericas.com

 

 

 


Re: where to buy usb cables

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I'm sure there are many online stores which sell USB cables but I always go to Amazon.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 2/15/2019 4:54 PM, james f hooper wrote:

Greetings gang where do you all buy your usb cables needing one from a scanner to my pc?


Three differing types of USB chords?

Vicky Vaughan
 

Hello List, Can anyone here describe how to tell by touch the micro USB a chord verses USB B chord from the USB C chord? I am hoping that the ends are distinctive in some way.

 

Thank you very much!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 




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Re: headsets?

 

I have a couple of questions about the headset.
It says overear, but I couldn't seem to find if it was over the head
or around the head?
I have a headset for my iphone that I love and I've been hard pressed
to find a replacement for it. I prefer around the head style for lots
of reasons.
My other question is regarding the sound. Is the quality clear? Some
headsets/phones I've tried have had too much bass that I couldn't
adjust that made it hard to hear my screenreader.Is the quality
crisp/clear?


thanks bunches

On 2/14/19, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
I know you said you prefer to use Amazon, and the headset I'm about to
recommend is available there, but if you buy the Sharkk Aura Headset from
Mystic Access, it comes with an audio tutorial on an SD card, as do all
products from this site.
This company is designed with the blind in mind. They not only offer
speakers and headsets with tutorials, but they also offer classes and
tutorials on a variety of asistive technology topics. There's also a podcast
with new episodes released every two weeks. You can visit them at
http://www.mysticaccess.com.
I love my Sharkk Aura headset. I'm using it right now with my PC as I type
this. It also works well with my BrailleNote Touch and my Victor Reader
Trek. There's very little latency, and the sound is terrific. It's designed
to work with cell phones, smart phones, and other devices as well. The
in-line microphone works pretty well. It also comes with a standard
headphone chord that you can plug into any device without Bluetooth.
It's probably a little more expensive from Mystic Access, but the excellent
tutorial on how to use it is well worth it. Alternatively, you can buy the
headset from Amazon and just the tutorial from Mystic Access, but it would
probably be about the same price, so you may as well use Mystic Access as
your one-stop shopping for your headphone needs. I hope this is helpful.
Happy listening.




Re: New laptops AC or battery?

Veronica Kirk
 

I don’t even know where the battery is in my laptop, which is a Dell.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New laptops AC or battery?

 

They actually make laptops where the battery is not removable?  Wow, I’ve never seen that.  Pam.

 

From: Marie

Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New laptops AC or battery?

 

But mine is the kind that the battery is not removable.

 

From: marcio via Groups.Io

Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 8:07 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New laptops AC or battery?

 

I do use my laptop plugged all the time. Maybe the only difference is that I don't use its battery, just the AC so to speak.
There's no problem doing it, I guess.


Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 14/02/2019 14:06, Marie escreveu:

Is it okay with the newer laptops to leave them plugged into AC all the time, the way you can with devices such as the smart phones? I use my laptop almost exclusively now and don't like having to charge it too often.Thanks, Marie

Remember: People only rain on your parade because they are jealous of your sun & tired of their shade.

 


How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

 

I'm using NVDA 18.4 and windows 1803
I had issue with the synth I was using before windows update. I'm
attempting to migrate to using a different one. I downloaded a few
languages to get different voices to use. I have a couple in the sapi
folder and all of them in the core voices folder. However, I made
changes to one of the voices and it is for the sapi voices ... which
don't have the voices I want to try/use.
Where on my computer do I find these voices to edit?
How do I get them to be both in sapi and core voices options for synth in NVDA?
I was only able to find one voice to edit though I have multiple
voices in both sapi and core voices.

Any help will be appreciated.

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