Date   

Re: How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

Mohamed
 

You can't get them to show up because they're part of OneCore and aren't in SAPI, which that control panel controls the settings for. If you want OneCore voices to appear in SAPI, you'll need to edit the registry.

On 2/23/2019 12:14 AM, Missa wrote:
Using that command I only have 3 voices installed according to it:
David, Hazel, and Zira. bleh
I can't seem to find out how to get the other ones to show-up.

On 2/22/19, Smiling? <blind7@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
To get to all of the SAPI's upon your system, the steps below should get you
to each of them.

Go to the directory by using Windows Key+R and type:
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl

Open up the file using enter and you will then be as if you went to the
control panel speech tab with the various options. Now you should see all of
the SAPI's you might have on the 64Bit machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Missa
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:39 PM
To: main
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core
voices and sapi folders?

I'm still wondering how to do this. I have two folders.
C> windows>speechengines>TTS> EN-US
In that folder I only have 4 files for Zira.
When I choose SAPI for synth in pref I have:
David, Hazel, and Zira.
I have another folder C>windows>speech_oneCore>engines>TTS>
In there I have the EN-USS, EN-AU, EN-EA, EN-GB, EN-CA folders
When I select Windows One Core I have these as options:
George, David, Katherine, Hazel, Susan, Linda, Zira, Richard, Mark, and
James

I would like to use Linda, she is in EN-CA, but I'm not sure how to
add her to the regular Speech folder for SAPI voice. I also have no
clue where the files for the other EN-US voices are in the regular
speech>engine>TTS folder
Anyone able to help me with this?

thanks


On 2/15/19, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using NVDA 18.4 and windows 1803
I had issue with the synth I was using before windows update. I'm
attempting to migrate to using a different one. I downloaded a few
languages to get different voices to use. I have a couple in the sapi
folder and all of them in the core voices folder. However, I made
changes to one of the voices and it is for the sapi voices ... which
don't have the voices I want to try/use.
Where on my computer do I find these voices to edit?
How do I get them to be both in sapi and core voices options for synth in
NVDA?
I was only able to find one voice to edit though I have multiple
voices in both sapi and core voices.

Any help will be appreciated.





Re: How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

 

Using that command I only have 3 voices installed according to it:
David, Hazel, and Zira. bleh
I can't seem to find out how to get the other ones to show-up.

On 2/22/19, Smiling? <blind7@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
To get to all of the SAPI's upon your system, the steps below should get you
to each of them.

Go to the directory by using Windows Key+R and type:
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl

Open up the file using enter and you will then be as if you went to the
control panel speech tab with the various options. Now you should see all of
the SAPI's you might have on the 64Bit machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Missa
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:39 PM
To: main
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core
voices and sapi folders?

I'm still wondering how to do this. I have two folders.
C> windows>speechengines>TTS> EN-US
In that folder I only have 4 files for Zira.
When I choose SAPI for synth in pref I have:
David, Hazel, and Zira.
I have another folder C>windows>speech_oneCore>engines>TTS>
In there I have the EN-USS, EN-AU, EN-EA, EN-GB, EN-CA folders
When I select Windows One Core I have these as options:
George, David, Katherine, Hazel, Susan, Linda, Zira, Richard, Mark, and
James

I would like to use Linda, she is in EN-CA, but I'm not sure how to
add her to the regular Speech folder for SAPI voice. I also have no
clue where the files for the other EN-US voices are in the regular
speech>engine>TTS folder
Anyone able to help me with this?

thanks


On 2/15/19, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using NVDA 18.4 and windows 1803
I had issue with the synth I was using before windows update. I'm
attempting to migrate to using a different one. I downloaded a few
languages to get different voices to use. I have a couple in the sapi
folder and all of them in the core voices folder. However, I made
changes to one of the voices and it is for the sapi voices ... which
don't have the voices I want to try/use.
Where on my computer do I find these voices to edit?
How do I get them to be both in sapi and core voices options for synth in
NVDA?
I was only able to find one voice to edit though I have multiple
voices in both sapi and core voices.

Any help will be appreciated.






Re: How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

 

Thank you--you're right.
After you said that I switched to the same voice but onecore synth and
there is a big difference as to how it sounds. It still mispronounces
words and I've had to add a lot of speech dictionary settings since I
had to switch, but it is better.

thanks again

On 2/22/19, Mohamed <malhajamy@gmail.com> wrote:
OneCore is a newer speech API for Microsoft voices introduced in Windows
10. The most notable difference is that OneCore voices are slightly more
responsive than SAPI, and as far as I know it only allows Microsoft
voices, no additional voices from third parties can be added.

On 2/21/2019 11:42 PM, Missa wrote:
I figured out how to edit the voices I wanted to use. However, I still
haven't figured out how to have NVDA show all of the voices that I
have downloaded/available. in SAPI or Onecore I think.
What is thedifference between the two anyway?

On 2/21/19, Mohamed <malhajamy@gmail.com> wrote:
You can add OneCore voices to SAPI with a registry hack.

On 2/20/2019 11:38 PM, Missa wrote:
I'm still wondering how to do this. I have two folders.
C> windows>speechengines>TTS> EN-US
In that folder I only have 4 files for Zira.
When I choose SAPI for synth in pref I have:
David, Hazel, and Zira.
I have another folder C>windows>speech_oneCore>engines>TTS>
In there I have the EN-USS, EN-AU, EN-EA, EN-GB, EN-CA folders
When I select Windows One Core I have these as options:
George, David, Katherine, Hazel, Susan, Linda, Zira, Richard, Mark, and
James

I would like to use Linda, she is in EN-CA, but I'm not sure how to
add her to the regular Speech folder for SAPI voice. I also have no
clue where the files for the other EN-US voices are in the regular
speech>engine>TTS folder
Anyone able to help me with this?

thanks


On 2/15/19, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using NVDA 18.4 and windows 1803
I had issue with the synth I was using before windows update. I'm
attempting to migrate to using a different one. I downloaded a few
languages to get different voices to use. I have a couple in the sapi
folder and all of them in the core voices folder. However, I made
changes to one of the voices and it is for the sapi voices ... which
don't have the voices I want to try/use.
Where on my computer do I find these voices to edit?
How do I get them to be both in sapi and core voices options for synth
in
NVDA?
I was only able to find one voice to edit though I have multiple
voices in both sapi and core voices.

Any help will be appreciated.




Re: How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

 

Thank you for that. I guess it doesn't matter if the voices are under
SAPI then if onecore are more responsive or whatever. I'm still
puzzled as to why all of them didn't show up as options in NVDA when I
chose that synth to use.
One core are more responsive to use--still doesn't keep up all the way
with my typing--but does a lot better than SAPI.
My next question would be why did the default change for language for
my computer once i downloaded these voices.

What I'm meaning that instead of using English--US for my spellcheck
in MS Office it has switched between AU, GB, and CA which is really
annoying since I have auto correct entries to make typing faster in
word. I've had to re-ad all of my shortcuts because of that.
I've tried editing the languages in MS Office, but it doesn't take
even if I follow the directions to do so. That is in the region and
language setting in windows main settings, word options section, and
the language selection under the review tab.
Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm having trouble because they're varients of
English and not whole new languages.

On 2/22/19, Smiling? <blind7@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
To get to all of the SAPI's upon your system, the steps below should get you
to each of them.

Go to the directory by using Windows Key+R and type:
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl

Open up the file using enter and you will then be as if you went to the
control panel speech tab with the various options. Now you should see all of
the SAPI's you might have on the 64Bit machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Missa
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:39 PM
To: main
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core
voices and sapi folders?

I'm still wondering how to do this. I have two folders.
C> windows>speechengines>TTS> EN-US
In that folder I only have 4 files for Zira.
When I choose SAPI for synth in pref I have:
David, Hazel, and Zira.
I have another folder C>windows>speech_oneCore>engines>TTS>
In there I have the EN-USS, EN-AU, EN-EA, EN-GB, EN-CA folders
When I select Windows One Core I have these as options:
George, David, Katherine, Hazel, Susan, Linda, Zira, Richard, Mark, and
James

I would like to use Linda, she is in EN-CA, but I'm not sure how to
add her to the regular Speech folder for SAPI voice. I also have no
clue where the files for the other EN-US voices are in the regular
speech>engine>TTS folder
Anyone able to help me with this?

thanks


On 2/15/19, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using NVDA 18.4 and windows 1803
I had issue with the synth I was using before windows update. I'm
attempting to migrate to using a different one. I downloaded a few
languages to get different voices to use. I have a couple in the sapi
folder and all of them in the core voices folder. However, I made
changes to one of the voices and it is for the sapi voices ... which
don't have the voices I want to try/use.
Where on my computer do I find these voices to edit?
How do I get them to be both in sapi and core voices options for synth in
NVDA?
I was only able to find one voice to edit though I have multiple
voices in both sapi and core voices.

Any help will be appreciated.






additional system sound effects wanted

Sandra Streeter
 

Hi,
 
Anyone know of a site where I can download sounds for my Win. 7 computer? I just checked the items under the Sound menu, and they’re pretty lame! Ready for changes. Preferably somewhere I could get them free, and would allow me to sample the sounds before committing myself to a download. Once that’s done, how could I transfer the downloaded sounds to the Sound area of the Ctrl-panel? Thanks!
 

Sandra

“Without craftsmanship, inspiration is a mere reed shaken in the wind.”
Johannes Brahms


Re: How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

 

Thanks for this. I saved the command for future use. How do you found it out?
Em 22/02/2019 17:07, Smiling? escreveu:

To get to all of the SAPI's upon your system, the steps below should get you to each of them.

Go to the directory by using Windows Key+R and type:
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl

Open up the file using enter and you will then be as if you went to the control panel speech tab with the various options. Now you should see all of the SAPI's you might have on the 64Bit machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Missa
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:39 PM
To: main
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

I'm still wondering how to do this. I have two folders.
C> windows>speechengines>TTS> EN-US
In that folder I only have 4 files for Zira.
When I choose SAPI for synth in pref I have:
David, Hazel, and Zira.
I have another folder C>windows>speech_oneCore>engines>TTS>
In there I have the EN-USS, EN-AU, EN-EA, EN-GB, EN-CA folders
When I select Windows One Core I have these as options:
George, David, Katherine, Hazel, Susan, Linda, Zira, Richard, Mark, and James

I would like to use Linda, she is in EN-CA, but I'm not sure how to
add her to the regular Speech folder for SAPI voice. I also have no
clue where the files for the other EN-US voices are in the regular
speech>engine>TTS folder
Anyone able to help me with this?

thanks


On 2/15/19, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@...> wrote:
I'm using NVDA 18.4 and windows 1803
I had issue with the synth I was using before windows update. I'm
attempting to migrate to using a different one. I downloaded a few
languages to get different voices to use. I have a couple in the sapi
folder and all of them in the core voices folder. However, I made
changes to one of the voices and it is for the sapi voices ... which
don't have the voices I want to try/use.
Where on my computer do I find these voices to edit?
How do I get them to be both in sapi and core voices options for synth in
NVDA?
I was only able to find one voice to edit though I have multiple
voices in both sapi and core voices.

Any help will be appreciated.









Re: How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

Smiling?
 

To get to all of the SAPI's upon your system, the steps below should get you to each of them.

Go to the directory by using Windows Key+R and type:
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl

Open up the file using enter and you will then be as if you went to the control panel speech tab with the various options. Now you should see all of the SAPI's you might have on the 64Bit machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Missa
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:39 PM
To: main
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

I'm still wondering how to do this. I have two folders.
C> windows>speechengines>TTS> EN-US
In that folder I only have 4 files for Zira.
When I choose SAPI for synth in pref I have:
David, Hazel, and Zira.
I have another folder C>windows>speech_oneCore>engines>TTS>
In there I have the EN-USS, EN-AU, EN-EA, EN-GB, EN-CA folders
When I select Windows One Core I have these as options:
George, David, Katherine, Hazel, Susan, Linda, Zira, Richard, Mark, and James

I would like to use Linda, she is in EN-CA, but I'm not sure how to
add her to the regular Speech folder for SAPI voice. I also have no
clue where the files for the other EN-US voices are in the regular
speech>engine>TTS folder
Anyone able to help me with this?

thanks


On 2/15/19, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using NVDA 18.4 and windows 1803
I had issue with the synth I was using before windows update. I'm
attempting to migrate to using a different one. I downloaded a few
languages to get different voices to use. I have a couple in the sapi
folder and all of them in the core voices folder. However, I made
changes to one of the voices and it is for the sapi voices ... which
don't have the voices I want to try/use.
Where on my computer do I find these voices to edit?
How do I get them to be both in sapi and core voices options for synth in
NVDA?
I was only able to find one voice to edit though I have multiple
voices in both sapi and core voices.

Any help will be appreciated.


Turbo Tax online or program

Marie <scribbles5@...>
 

I am trying to do my tax return on the Turbo Tax website and running into too many road blocks. Using Jaws 2019 and Win 10 version 2809.
Has anyone had success with the site or using the purchased software from Intuit? Please help. I have a very basic return but am getting a serious headache.
Marie
 
Remember: People only rain on your parade because they are jealous of your sun & tired of their shade.


Re: Need Rumola CRX file

Gene
 

Perhaps it still works if you have it installed on some machines.  But since you can't download it any longer, that implies that it is no longer available for distribution.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Bharat
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need Rumola CRX file

Oh no, you got me wrong. I use Rumola with Google Chrome & in there it
works as well. but for some reason, i cant't seem to get it on my
other computer. the link to the Chrome store for downloading the addon
is broken & gives a 404 error. I tried  searching for the ID for the
extension that i had mensioned in my previous mail but i can't seem to
find it on my machine. An online search for that extension ID does
come up with Rumola but i could not get any third party site for
downloading Rumola. all the sites just made me go in circles. Request
you to help.

Thank you.

bharat

On 2/22/19, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, Rumola is dead and no longer works. The only captcha solver that
> still works is Webvisum with Firefox 52 ESR or earlier.  Newer versions
> of Firefox do not work with Webvisum, and Captcha Be Gone, like Rumola,
> is also defunct.
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> On 2/22/2019 9:34 AM, Bharat wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Request you to send the Rumola extension with me in the CRX format.
>> unfortunately, i can't seem to download it from the Chrome store
>> because i am getting a 404 error. you may search for this extension ID
>> while trying to pack it:
>>
>> bjjgbdlbgjeoankjijbmheneoekbghcg
>>
>> thank you,
>>
>> bharat.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



Re: Need Rumola CRX file

Bharat
 

Oh no, you got me wrong. I use Rumola with Google Chrome & in there it
works as well. but for some reason, i cant't seem to get it on my
other computer. the link to the Chrome store for downloading the addon
is broken & gives a 404 error. I tried searching for the ID for the
extension that i had mensioned in my previous mail but i can't seem to
find it on my machine. An online search for that extension ID does
come up with Rumola but i could not get any third party site for
downloading Rumola. all the sites just made me go in circles. Request
you to help.

Thank you.

bharat

On 2/22/19, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net> wrote:

Sorry, Rumola is dead and no longer works. The only captcha solver that
still works is Webvisum with Firefox 52 ESR or earlier.  Newer versions
of Firefox do not work with Webvisum, and Captcha Be Gone, like Rumola,
is also defunct.


Gerald




Gerald



On 2/22/2019 9:34 AM, Bharat wrote:
Hi all,

Request you to send the Rumola extension with me in the CRX format.
unfortunately, i can't seem to download it from the Chrome store
because i am getting a 404 error. you may search for this extension ID
while trying to pack it:

bjjgbdlbgjeoankjijbmheneoekbghcg

thank you,

bharat.






Re: Need Rumola CRX file

Gerald Levy
 

Sorry, Rumola is dead and no longer works. The only captcha solver that still works is Webvisum with Firefox 52 ESR or earlier.  Newer versions of Firefox do not work with Webvisum, and Captcha Be Gone, like Rumola, is also defunct.


Gerald




Gerald

On 2/22/2019 9:34 AM, Bharat wrote:
Hi all,

Request you to send the Rumola extension with me in the CRX format.
unfortunately, i can't seem to download it from the Chrome store
because i am getting a 404 error. you may search for this extension ID
while trying to pack it:

bjjgbdlbgjeoankjijbmheneoekbghcg

thank you,

bharat.



Need Rumola CRX file

Bharat
 

Hi all,

Request you to send the Rumola extension with me in the CRX format.
unfortunately, i can't seem to download it from the Chrome store
because i am getting a 404 error. you may search for this extension ID
while trying to pack it:

bjjgbdlbgjeoankjijbmheneoekbghcg

thank you,

bharat.


Re: download manager query

 

Many people recommend Internet Download Manager.Have you ever tried it?
I've never used it, so can't help you using, but so far the recommendations I've heard were all from blind people.
Em 21/02/2019 17:11, Joseph Weakland escreveu:

greetings, all, I wanted to download a batch of files off a web page without having to go on the specific site to do this. Is there an accessible download manager program that will allowthis and is nvda usable?


I am trying to download a batch of files from the audiogames archive and want to know if there is a usable file manager program you can getthat will do it for you




Re: program query.

Gerald Levy
 

The program you are thinking of is called Belarc Advisor, which creates a snapshot of your computer system:


https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/belarc_advisor.html


Gerald

On 2/22/2019 2:22 AM, Billy Inglis wrote:
hi guys, Wondering if anyone on list can remember the program used to report everything in your system.
I'm not sure what the software was called, but when you rn it on your computer, it gave you a list of everything inside, including: drives, what type of hdd, video card, processor etc.
I'm not explaing this too good, but someone might know the software I am trying to describe?.


program query.

Billy Inglis
 

hi guys, Wondering if anyone on list can remember the program used to report everything in your system.
I'm not sure what the software was called, but when you rn it on your computer, it gave you a list of everything inside, including: drives, what type of hdd, video card, processor etc.
I'm not explaing this too good, but someone might know the software I am trying to describe?.
--

Billy.


Re: How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

Mohamed
 

OneCore is a newer speech API for Microsoft voices introduced in Windows 10. The most notable difference is that OneCore voices are slightly more responsive than SAPI, and as far as I know it only allows Microsoft voices, no additional voices from third parties can be added.

On 2/21/2019 11:42 PM, Missa wrote:
I figured out how to edit the voices I wanted to use. However, I still
haven't figured out how to have NVDA show all of the voices that I
have downloaded/available. in SAPI or Onecore I think.
What is thedifference between the two anyway?

On 2/21/19, Mohamed <malhajamy@gmail.com> wrote:
You can add OneCore voices to SAPI with a registry hack.

On 2/20/2019 11:38 PM, Missa wrote:
I'm still wondering how to do this. I have two folders.
C> windows>speechengines>TTS> EN-US
In that folder I only have 4 files for Zira.
When I choose SAPI for synth in pref I have:
David, Hazel, and Zira.
I have another folder C>windows>speech_oneCore>engines>TTS>
In there I have the EN-USS, EN-AU, EN-EA, EN-GB, EN-CA folders
When I select Windows One Core I have these as options:
George, David, Katherine, Hazel, Susan, Linda, Zira, Richard, Mark, and
James

I would like to use Linda, she is in EN-CA, but I'm not sure how to
add her to the regular Speech folder for SAPI voice. I also have no
clue where the files for the other EN-US voices are in the regular
speech>engine>TTS folder
Anyone able to help me with this?

thanks


On 2/15/19, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using NVDA 18.4 and windows 1803
I had issue with the synth I was using before windows update. I'm
attempting to migrate to using a different one. I downloaded a few
languages to get different voices to use. I have a couple in the sapi
folder and all of them in the core voices folder. However, I made
changes to one of the voices and it is for the sapi voices ... which
don't have the voices I want to try/use.
Where on my computer do I find these voices to edit?
How do I get them to be both in sapi and core voices options for synth
in
NVDA?
I was only able to find one voice to edit though I have multiple
voices in both sapi and core voices.

Any help will be appreciated.


Re: customer service jobs

Shelly Kane
 

Dave:


Yes, it was me.

Shelly

On 2/20/2019 5:48 PM, Dave wrote:
Shelly, by chance, are you the one who shared the Rat Race web site?


<LOL>  I knew I had gotten it from some where.


Grumpy Dave



On 2/20/2019 1:41 PM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Thank you Dave!  I'm already doing that.

Shelly

On 2/20/2019 10:35 AM, Dave wrote:
Hello Shelly,


If you are looking for Work from Home Jobs, check out- Rat Race
Rebellion.


www.ratracerebellion.com


This web site has several Work from Home Typing jobs.  As well as Call
Center type jobs.


Grumpy Dave






.



.


Re: How do I get microsoft voices to be in both core voices and sapi folders?

 

I figured out how to edit the voices I wanted to use. However, I still
haven't figured out how to have NVDA show all of the voices that I
have downloaded/available. in SAPI or Onecore I think.
What is thedifference between the two anyway?

On 2/21/19, Mohamed <malhajamy@gmail.com> wrote:
You can add OneCore voices to SAPI with a registry hack.

On 2/20/2019 11:38 PM, Missa wrote:
I'm still wondering how to do this. I have two folders.
C> windows>speechengines>TTS> EN-US
In that folder I only have 4 files for Zira.
When I choose SAPI for synth in pref I have:
David, Hazel, and Zira.
I have another folder C>windows>speech_oneCore>engines>TTS>
In there I have the EN-USS, EN-AU, EN-EA, EN-GB, EN-CA folders
When I select Windows One Core I have these as options:
George, David, Katherine, Hazel, Susan, Linda, Zira, Richard, Mark, and
James

I would like to use Linda, she is in EN-CA, but I'm not sure how to
add her to the regular Speech folder for SAPI voice. I also have no
clue where the files for the other EN-US voices are in the regular
speech>engine>TTS folder
Anyone able to help me with this?

thanks


On 2/15/19, Melissa Hammitt <melissa.j.hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using NVDA 18.4 and windows 1803
I had issue with the synth I was using before windows update. I'm
attempting to migrate to using a different one. I downloaded a few
languages to get different voices to use. I have a couple in the sapi
folder and all of them in the core voices folder. However, I made
changes to one of the voices and it is for the sapi voices ... which
don't have the voices I want to try/use.
Where on my computer do I find these voices to edit?
How do I get them to be both in sapi and core voices options for synth
in
NVDA?
I was only able to find one voice to edit though I have multiple
voices in both sapi and core voices.

Any help will be appreciated.



Re: Acrobat Reader DC

Kwork
 

Melissa, It's a good program. If you decide to get into borrowing ebooks from your local library, or, if you already do, then you can use it to read the epub and pdf files offered. In fact, with the mandatory drm on most borrowed ebooks, and I won't say here how i feel about that, it's the only way on Windows you'd be able to do so unless you stripped the drm from the books, outside of the scope of this list as it's technically illegal to do so, even for your own use.

Travis

On 2/21/2019 6:42 PM, Melissa Hambleton wrote:

Thank you Travis, I’m going to try Adobe Digital Editions and see how it goes.

 

Melissa

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Acrobat Reader DC

 

Melissa, another idea I just thought of is to try another program. Adobe Digital Editions will  read both epub and pdf files. Here's the download page:

https://www.adobe.com/solutions/ebook/digital-editions/download.html

From there you can choose your platform, Windows or something else.

When installed, you can choose to sign in with your Adobe account, but it's not necessary unless you read drm protected ebooks, either purchases or borrowed from an ebook lending library, usually through your own public library system.

I've used Digital Editions to read both epub and pdf files.

Maybe that will work for you.

Travis

On 2/20/2019 5:38 PM, Melissa Hambleton wrote:

Thanks Gene, I will probably have to save the files as a text document like you suggested. No, the format may not come out correctly but as long as it reads fine as a text document that’s fine by me, I’m the only one using it so no big deal there for now.

 

Melissa

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 8:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Acrobat Reader DC

 

Also, you can try saving the document as a text file after it opens.  See if you can read what is saved.  I'm not sure what is being done with the files once they are opened so the formatting may not be correct.

 

Gene
From: Gene

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 7:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Acrobat Reader DC

 

Both reading PDF documents with Adobe and reading web pages uses the Virtual PC cursor in JAWS.  Can you read web pages correctly? 

 

What was updated, Windows or something else?  Do you have system restore points from before the update?  You might try running a restore point, then letting whatever updated update again in case the update didn't occur properly.  Its always something with Windows 10.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 7:46 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Acrobat Reader DC

 

Hi Melissa,

 

Is the screen maximized?

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Acrobat Reader DC

 

Travis, thank you for responding.

 

Unfortunately, I did try both of your suggestions and they didn’t work. I did go to the Help menu and tried the  repair option and also using the setup assistant and I have the same results.

 

I am trying to read PDF files that absolutely read fine with JAWS just a few days ago or so and now JAWS doesn’t act like they are there. JAWS will read the title just fine and that’s it. I had someone sighted check and the PDF file does show on the screen just fine. Also, if I turn Narrator on, it will start reading the PDF file but, I really don’t like using Narrator…that is why I have JAWS because I prefer that. I’ve made no changes of any kind to JAWS so I don’t know what is going on.

 

Melissa

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Acrobat Reader DC

 

Melissa,

As I haven't seen any responses to your question yet, I have a couple of ideas, and they are only ideas as I'm not a JAWS user. I use NVDA, which seems to be working ok after the latest Windows update on pdf files.

Since you didn't say what program you were using, I'm going to guess you are using the Adobe Acrobat reader.

In the help menu, there is a "repair installation" option. It's possible that your reader has become corrupt.

Type alt+h for help, then arrow up and down or type e to repair the reader. Tab to yes to confirm, then wait a few minutes or seconds depending on how fast your system does it for it to finish. You'll have a fresh reader window open when it's completed.

Try opening a pdf file you know worked well before the update and see if you have better luck.

 

If not, the only other option that comes to mind at this moment is to run the "Setup Assistant" again that is usually run the first time after the Acrobat Reader is installed.

From the main window, alt e for the edit menu.

Up arrow to the accessibility submenu, and use right arrow to open.

Up or down arrow once to "Setup Assistant" and press enter.

After that, the options you choose, or leave as defaults will be your choice, but it could remind the program you are using a screenreader.

Let us know if you have any joy, or if you already figured it out. Good luck.

Travis

On 2/17/2019 9:49 PM, Melissa Hambleton wrote:

All of my PDF files would read just fine using JAWS 2018. The only thing that changed a couple of days ago or so was an update on my PC. I think after that, nothing reads. The PDF files I have will open fine or process the pages, I can read the title of the PDF after it opens but I’m not sure what to do?

 

Has this happened with anyone else or does anyone have suggestions?

 

Thanks

Melissa


Re: Acrobat Reader DC

Melissa Hambleton <nightfury19@...>
 

Thank you for posting all this information. I’m going to save it and work through some of the items to see how things will go.

 

Melissa

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 1:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Acrobat Reader DC

 

Hi Melissa,

I found the following at the Adobe site:

About operating system accessibility tools

Applies to: Acrobat Reader DC 

Last Published: ‎May‎ ‎10‎, ‎2017

A document or application is accessible if people with disabilities, such as mobility impairments, blindness, and low vision, can use it. Accessibility features in Acrobat Reader and PDF file format enable people with disabilities to use PDFs, with or without screen readers, magnifiers, and braille printers.

 

Making PDFs accessible tends to benefit all users. For example, the document structure that enables a screen reader to read a PDF out loud also enables a mobile device to reflow and display the document on a small screen. Similarly, the preset tab order of an accessible PDF form helps all users, not just users with mobility impairments, fill the form more easily.

 

Setting accessibility preferences

Acrobat Reader provides several preferences that make the reading of PDFs more accessible for visually impaired and motion-impaired users. These preferences control how PDFs appear on the screen and read by a screen reader.

Most preferences related to accessibility are available through the Accessibility Setup Assistant, which provides onscreen instructions for setting these preferences. Some preferences that affect accessibility aren’t available through the Accessibility Setup Assistant including preferences in the Reading, Forms, and Multimedia categories. You can set all preferences in the Preferences dialog box.

The names shown for some preferences in the Accessibility Setup Assistant are different from the names for the same preferences shown in the Preferences dialog box

 

Set accessibility preferences with the Accessibility Setup Assistant

1 Start the Accessibility Setup Assistant by doing one of the following:

•Choose Edit > Accessibility > Setup Assistant.

•(Windows only) Start Acrobat Reader for the first time while a screen reader or screen magnifier is running.

 

2. Choose the option that is appropriate for your assistive software and devices.

The assistant presents only preferences that are appropriate for your assistive software and devices, according to the option that you choose.

 

3. Follow the onscreen instructions. If you click Cancel at any point, Acrobat Reader uses default settings for the preferences that the assistant sets (not recommended).

 

Set accessibility preferences with the Preferences dialog box

To access the preferences dialog of Acrobat Reader, select Edit > Preferences.

Set preferences as appropriate for your assistive software and devices in various panels of the Preferences dialog box.

 

Accessibility preferences

Accessibility preferences in Accessibility panel

•Replace Document Colors: Select this preference to choose from a list of contrasting color combinations for text and background, or you can create your own.

•Always Use Page Layout Style: Corresponds to the Override Page Layout Style option in theAccessibility Setup Assistant.

•Always Use Zoom Setting: Corresponds to the Override Document Zoom option in the AccessibilitySetup Assistant.

•Use Document Structure For Tab Order When No Explicit Tab Order Is Specified: Improves navigation of form fields and links in documents that don’t specify a tab order.

•Always Display The Keyboard Selection Cursor: Select this option if you use a screen magnifier. This preference corresponds to Always Display The Keyboard Selection Cursor option in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

•Always Use The System Selection Color: When selected, the default selection color (blue) is overridden with a color that the system specifies.

•Show Portfolios In Files Mode: When selected, shows PDF Portfolio component files and file details in a list. Files mode provides a better reading experience for people with disabilities, such as mobility impairments, blindness, and low vision.

 

Accessibility preferences in Documents panel

•Automatically Save Document Changes To Temporary File Every: When d-selected, this preference disables the auto-save action. Each time a PDF is saved, the screen reader or magnifier must reload the document. This preference corresponds to the Disable Document Auto-Save option in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

 

Accessibility preferences in Forms panel

•Fields Highlight Color and Required Fields Highlight Color: These preferences specify what colors are used to highlight fillable form fields. They correspond to the Field Highlight Color and Required Field Highlight Color options in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

•Auto-Complete: Enables Acrobat Reader to automatically offer to complete some entries in form fields so that filling form fields requires fewer keystrokes. This preference doesn’t correspond to an option in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

 

Accessibility preferences in Multimedia panel

•Show Subtitles When Available.

•Play Dubbed Audio When Available.

•Show Supplemental Text Captions When Available.

•Show Audio Description (Or Video Description, Or Descriptive Video) When Available.

These preferences don’t correspond to any options in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

 

Accessibility preferences in Page Display panel

•Zoom: Sets the onscreen magnification of documents and allows low-vision readers to read reflowed PDFs more easily. This preference corresponds to the Override Document Zoom option in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

•Smooth Text: Controls anti-aliasing of text. To disable smoothing of text and make text sharper and easier to read with a screen magnifier, choose None. This preference corresponds to the Disable Text Smoothing option in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

 

Accessibility preferences in Reading panel

•Reading Order: Specifies the reading order of documents. The reading order preferences also appear in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

•Infer Reading Order From Document (Recommended): Interprets the reading order of untagged documents by using an advanced method of structure inference layout analysis.

•Left-To-Right, Top-To-Bottom Reading Order: Delivers the text according to its placement on the page, reading from left to right and then top to bottom. This method is faster than Infer Reading Order From Document. This method analyzes text only; form fields are ignored and tables aren’t recognized as such.

•Use Reading Order In Raw Print Stream: Delivers text in the order in which it was recorded in the print stream. This method is faster than Infer Reading Order From Document. This method analyzes text only; form fields are ignored and tables aren’t recognized as such.

•Override The Reading Order In Tagged Documents: Uses the reading order specified in the Reading preferences instead what the tag structure of the document specifies. Use this preference only when you encounter problems in poorly tagged PDFs. This preference corresponds to the Override The Reading Order In Tagged Documents option in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

•Page vs Document: This preference determines how much of a document is delivered to a screen reader at a time.  If a PDF isn’t tagged, Reader analyzes the document and attempt to infer its structure and reading order. This process can take a long time for a long document. Set Reader to deliver only the currently visible page so that it analyzes only a small piece of the document at a time. This consideration varies depending on the size and complexity of the document and on the features of the screen reader. When Reader delivers information to a screen reader, screen magnifier, or other assistive software, it loads information into a memory buffer that is directly available to the assistive software. The amount of information that is delivered to the memory buffer can affect how long Reader takes to perform tasks, such as opening the document, advancing to the next page, changing views, and carrying out commands.

•Only Read The Currently Visible Pages: This option is best when you use a screen magnifier. It improves performance by eliminating the need for the software to process parts of the document that aren’t visible. When Reader sends only the currently visible pages of a PDF to the memory buffer, the assistive technology has access to those pages only. It cannot go to another page until the next page is visible and Reader has sent the page information to the memory buffer. Therefore, if this option is selected, you must use the navigation features of Reader, to navigate from page to page in the document. Set the Default Page Layout option in preferences to Single Page if you choose to have Reader send only the currently visible pages to the assistive technology. Because Reader sends page information about all visible pages, the assistive technology receives information about pages that is only partially visible (such as the bottom of one page or the top of the next) and those pages that are visible. If you use a page display setting other than Single Page, such as Continuous, and then you display the next page, the technology will not correctly track which portion of a previous page it has already read aloud. For instructions on setting the default page layout to Single Page, see Preferences for viewing PDFs. This option corresponds to Only Read The Currently Visible Pages option in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

•Read The Entire Document: This option can be best if you use a screen reader that has its own navigation and search tools and that is more familiar to you than the tools in Acrobat.

•For Large Documents, Only Read The Currently Visible Pages: This option is selected by default and is best if you use a screen reader with long or complex PDFs. It allows Acrobat to deliver an entire small document but revert to page-by-page delivery for large documents. This preference corresponds to For Large Documents, Only Read The Currently Visible Pages option in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

•Confirm Before Tagging Documents: When selected, lets the user confirm the options that are used before Acrobat prepares an untagged document for reading. Tagging can be a time-consuming procedure, especially for larger documents. This preference corresponds to Confirm Before Tagging Documents option in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

•Read Out Loud Options: Set preferences into control volume, speed, and pitch of the voice used for Read Out Loud. You can choose to use the default voice or any of the voices that your operating system provides. You can also use the up and down arrows to read blocks of text. These preferences do not have corresponding options in the Accessibility Setup Assistant.

 

Keyboard shortcuts to mouse actions

Acrobat Reader DC and Acrobat DC have the same keyboard shortcuts. To view the full list, see keyboard shortcuts in Acrobat DC Help.

 

Use a screen reader or magnifier

Use the Accessibility Setup Assistant to set up Acrobat Reader DC for either a screen magnifier or a screen reader.

•Choose Edit > Accessibility > Setup Assistant, and then select the options you want from each screen of the Setup Assistant.

 

Use the Read Out Loud Text-to-Speech tool

Read Out Loud is a Text-to-Speech (TTS) tool that is built in Acrobat Reader DC. The Read Out Loud feature reads aloud the text in a PDF, including the text in comments and alternate text descriptions for images and fillable fields. In tagged PDFs, content is read in the order in which it appears in the document’s logical structure tree. In untagged documents, the reading order is inferred, unless a reading order has been specified in the Reading preferences.

Read Out Loud uses the available voices installed on your system. If you have SAPI 4 or SAPI 5 voices installed from text-to-speech or language applications, you can choose them to read your PDFs.

To use Read Out Loud, you need Acrobat Reader DC and a Text-to-Speech engine installed on your system. Acrobat Reader must have a voice selected that you have installed. Also, the document must be accessible, otherwise it is not read at all or it is read in the wrong order.

 

To verify your settings in Acrobat Reader:

1. Go to the Preferences dialog box of Acrobat Reader by selecting Edit > Preferences.

2. In the left pane, select Reading.

3. In the right pane, deselect the Use Default Voice and select a voice from the drop-down list that you have verified installed on your computer.

4 Click OK.

Note:  Read Out Loud isn’t a screen reader, and some operating systems don’t support it.

 

Activate or deactivate Read Out Loud

Activate Read Out Loud to use it. You can deactivate Read Out Loud to free system resources and improve the performance of other operations.

Do one of the following:

•Choose View > Read Out Loud > Activate Read Out Loud.

•Choose View > Read Out Loud > Deactivate ReadOut Loud.

 

Read PDF form fields out loud

1 In the Reading panel of the Preferences dialog box, select Read Form Fields in the Read Out Loud Options section.

2 In the PDF form, press Tab to select the first form field.

3 Make entries and selections as needed, and then press Tab to move to the next field, repeating this step until the form is completed. Acrobat reads the state of selected check boxes and radio buttons.

 

Note:  Read Out Loud does not echo your keystrokes. To hear what you have typed, use a screen reader.

 

Reflow text in a PDF

You can reflow a PDF to temporarily present it as a single column that is the width of the document pane. This reflow view makes the document easier to read on a mobile device or magnified on a standard monitor, without scrolling horizontally to read the text.

•To reflow text, choose View > Zoom > Reflow.

Usually, only readable text appears in the reflow view. Text that does not reflow includes forms, comments, digital signature fields, and page artifacts, such as page numbers, headers, and footers. Pages that contain both readable text and form or digital signature fields do not reflow. Vertical text reflows horizontally.

Note:  You cannot save, edit, or print a document while it is in Reflow view.

 

About operating system accessibility tools

Accessibility tools in Windows OS

Windows 10, Windows 8, and Windows 7 operating systems have built-in tools that provide increased or alternate access to information on a computer screen. The narrator is a light version of a screen reader. Magnifier is a screen magnification tool.

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/reader/using/accessibility-features.html

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Hambleton
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 9:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Acrobat Reader DC

 

All of my PDF files would read just fine using JAWS 2018. The only thing that changed a couple of days ago or so was an update on my PC. I think after that, nothing reads. The PDF files I have will open fine or process the pages, I can read the title of the PDF after it opens but I’m not sure what to do?

 

Has this happened with anyone else or does anyone have suggestions?

 

Thanks

Melissa

26221 - 26240 of 103161