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Re: iPhone update?

Barb O'Connor
 

It can happen accidentally. It would be certainly worth checking.

Barb

On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:43 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks, I don't think so, and even if that happened taking this third
hand contextually from our conversation this person seems like they
know how to unload/reload voiceover and manipulate volume.

Thanks.
DAve.


On 4/1/19, Barb O'Connor <broconnor1972@comcast.net> wrote:
First of all, I don’t think there was any r update that made voiceover
unusable. I updated last week and everything is just fine. I have a couple
questions however. Perhaps did your friend perhaps turn speech off with a
three finger double tap or turn voiceover off with a triple click to the
home button? Also the volume may have gotten turn down in which case
voiceover would not be able to be heard. Just throwing that out there for
you.

Barb
On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:07 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Got a friend, with a friend who has an iPhone. Is there an Apple
update that is recent, like last week, that must be got or it kills
voiceover? If so, any information on how to get this as apparently
this iPhone now is unusable via voiceover until this update is
applied.

Thanks.
Dave.







Re: Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?

Gene
 

I didn't know you can get it there.  I would think that a Ninite download wouldn't do that but I don't know that.  Others may know.  I do know that the portable version doesn't try to install anything that is unwanted.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?

Does that happen with CDEX even if you get it from ninite.com?  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?
 
I haven't used the XP version of Media Player and I don't know if it is any different than the Windows 7 version.  But the Windows 7 rips and burns well.  As with Microsoft programs of this sort in general, those that come with Windows and are intendede for the user who doesn't want more than a basic program, the program does what it does well but if you want more advanced features, you will have to use other programs.
 
I haven't seen much in the way of answers to this question so I'll say that CDEX is a popular ripping program.  But if you use it, get the portable version.  The installed version will place unwanted programs on your system unless you find the uncheck options during install which are inaccessible with screen-readers in general.  You may see them with System Access or System Access to Go.
 
I've heard of burning programs but I do very little burning and I haven't tried any of them.  I'm not recommending this one but it’s a name I remember.  Any Burn.  I don't know if it places unwanted software on your machine but if its free, as with most free programs these days, it probably does.  So you might not want to play with it until there is discussion from others about how easy it is to tell it not to do so, if it does.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?
 
Hi, I use windows media player to rip my CDs. I have had no problems besides the program not being able to find information on the CD but since most of the CDs I copy are audio books I don't see this as a problem.

So far I haven't needed to burn anything so can't say what windows media player is like for that.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Hooley
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 3:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?

Hi,


In your opinion, which would you say is the most accessible CD burner, ripper or all-in-ones software besides Windows Media Player, or is Windows Media Player the one to use in Windows 10 with narrator or NvDA?

Thanks for any input,


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Re: iPhone update?

David Mehler
 

Hi,

Thanks, I don't think so, and even if that happened taking this third
hand contextually from our conversation this person seems like they
know how to unload/reload voiceover and manipulate volume.

Thanks.
DAve.

On 4/1/19, Barb O'Connor <broconnor1972@comcast.net> wrote:
First of all, I don’t think there was any r update that made voiceover
unusable. I updated last week and everything is just fine. I have a couple
questions however. Perhaps did your friend perhaps turn speech off with a
three finger double tap or turn voiceover off with a triple click to the
home button? Also the volume may have gotten turn down in which case
voiceover would not be able to be heard. Just throwing that out there for
you.

Barb
On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:07 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Got a friend, with a friend who has an iPhone. Is there an Apple
update that is recent, like last week, that must be got or it kills
voiceover? If so, any information on how to get this as apparently
this iPhone now is unusable via voiceover until this update is
applied.

Thanks.
Dave.






Re: Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?

Gene
 

That is evidence for what I said, that people who have problems with ribbons, generally haven't received adequate instruction or training. 
 
I hope what I sent will be helpful.  Don't worry about upper and lower ribbon when you hear it.  The upper ribbon is the categories, home, view, similar to menu categories.  the lower ribbon is the part of the ribbon that displays the items in these categories, such as items in the view category. 
 
Once ribbons are explained, you will likely not find them difficult to understand.  It may  take some time to get used to them but that's different than just not understanding them. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: joanne
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?

Hi Ann. I actually wish I had a trainer who could show me in-depth how to
use ribbons. The menus just look so hard to understand, and then I'll hear
things like upper ribbon and lower ribbon, etc. and I feel lost and not sure
which column I need. I'm just one of those who has always used the list
views and traditional menus, and I don't feel like this has been explained
thoroughly to me. You're a good instructor, I know, because your posts are
so thoughtful and helpful. You're most likely doing a great job explaining
them to your clients. I just haven't really hit on an explanation that makes
sense. I even use the old windows live mail because the newer ones had
ribbons and it looked so hard to navigate.

That's really it. Maybe it's some kind of visual thing I can't wrap my mind
around. But I'm open and have pretty much taught myself computer. If anyone
can explain these things and even why it had to be changed to ribbons in the
first place, I'll try them.




--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@...>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 11:35 AM
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?

> Hi all,
>
> I'm just curious.  What is it about ribbons you don't understand?  I'm
> asking as a trainer because I may need to help somebody some day who
> doesn't understand ribbons.  I want to know how to minimize the
> misunderstanding.  I want to know how to explain ribbons so that anyone
> can understand.  Why don't you understand them?  I'm asking as a serious
> question.
>
> As a person who is blind, the appearance of the ribbons can't be what's
> throwing you.  To a screen reader they just sound like menus except that
> you navigate them in a different way.
>
> I'm not saying that you must use ribbons, I'm just interested in why you
> don't like or understand them.  Jaws has virtual ribbons if you find that
> helpful as well, though I'd really like to understand your problem.  Would
> you be willing to help a trainer to understand your thinking?
>
> Ann P.
>
>
>
> Original message:
>> I've never understood ribbons and there are a couple free ribbon
>> disablers
>> online. I think the one I have is Ribbon Disabler but not sure if that's
>> the
>> exact name. But they're available for those of us who understand the
>> traditional menus.
>
>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@...>
>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 7:00 AM
>> To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?
>
>>> Hi all,
>
>>> Bill, just use f12 when done writing your file and save it in .txt
>>> format.
>>> F12 brings you to your good, old, familiar save-as dialog.  Tab once to
>>> get to the combo box for your file formats.  Wordpad's default is .rtf,
>>> which is also fine and will be readable by any computer.
>
>>> As for the ribbons, my best advice is to bite the bullet and learn to
>>> use
>>> them.  It's not hard at all if you remember that the ribbons are merely
>>> the combination of the menu bar and the toolbars in Word.  Moreover,
>>> there
>>> are keyboard commands for most ribbon options.  In addition, all the
>>> keyboard commands that you know and love like ctrl-s and so on still
>>> work,
>>> even in win10.
>
>>> It's not arcane, unlearnable, or incomprehensible.   It's just a new
>>> menu.
>>> They just packaged the same old stuff in a different box.
>
>>> Ann P.
>
>>> Original message:
>>>> I would like to write a small .txt file for my list members.  Help!
>>>> Help the  ribbon!  I want Wordpad the .txt format.
>>>>   Thanks.
>>>> Please join me at
>
>
>>>> MemoriesOfDaysGoneBy+subscribe@groups.io
>
>
>>>> Bill R Johnson
>
>
>
>>> --
>>> Ann K. Parsons
>>> Portal Tutoring
>>> EMAIL:  akp@...
>>> Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
>>> Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
>>> Skype: Putertutor
>
>>> "All that is gold does not glitter,
>>> Not all those who wander are lost."
>
>
>
>
>>
>
> --
> Ann K. Parsons
> Portal Tutoring
> EMAIL:  akp@...
> Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
> Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
> Skype: Putertutor
>
> "All that is gold does not glitter,
> Not all those who wander are lost."
>
>
>
>



Re: Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?

Pamela Dominguez
 

You hit the nail on the head. It's not the seeing of them, but it was the navigation of them, which, to me, since I'm totally blind, is my seeing of them. That's my two cents on the matter. I use them, and I have gotten more used to them, since I've had them since 2011, but I like menus much better. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 11:35 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?

Hi all,

I'm just curious. What is it about ribbons you don't understand? I'm
asking as a trainer because I may need to help somebody some day who
doesn't understand ribbons. I want to know how to minimize the
misunderstanding. I want to know how to explain ribbons so that anyone
can understand. Why don't you understand them? I'm asking as a
serious question.

As a person who is blind, the appearance of the ribbons can't be what's
throwing you. To a screen reader they just sound like menus except
that you navigate them in a different way.

I'm not saying that you must use ribbons, I'm just interested in why
you don't like or understand them. Jaws has virtual ribbons if you
find that helpful as well, though I'd really like to understand your
problem. Would you be willing to help a trainer to understand your thinking?

Ann P.



Original message:
I've never understood ribbons and there are a couple free ribbon disablers
online. I think the one I have is Ribbon Disabler but not sure if that's the
exact name. But they're available for those of us who understand the
traditional menus.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@sero.email>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 7:00 AM
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?
Hi all,
Bill, just use f12 when done writing your file and save it in .txt format.
F12 brings you to your good, old, familiar save-as dialog. Tab once to
get to the combo box for your file formats. Wordpad's default is .rtf,
which is also fine and will be readable by any computer.
As for the ribbons, my best advice is to bite the bullet and learn to use
them. It's not hard at all if you remember that the ribbons are merely
the combination of the menu bar and the toolbars in Word. Moreover, there
are keyboard commands for most ribbon options. In addition, all the
keyboard commands that you know and love like ctrl-s and so on still work,
even in win10.
It's not arcane, unlearnable, or incomprehensible. It's just a new menu.
They just packaged the same old stuff in a different box.
Ann P.
Original message:
I would like to write a small .txt file for my list members. Help!
Help the ribbon! I want Wordpad the .txt format.
Thanks.
Please join me at

MemoriesOfDaysGoneBy+subscribe@groups.io

Bill R Johnson


--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor
"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."



--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?

Pamela Dominguez
 

A lot of the book players use ribbon-type configurations in their settings.  You mostly left and right arrow instead of up and down arrow, or do a similar thing with the number pad.  The booksense worked more like the old computer menu structure.  Pam.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?
 
You don't have the old menu structure.  You have a structure that shows things as menus but not the old structure.  You won't see file, edit, etc.  and the interface is not as efficient as using real ribbons. 
 
I think the main reason people have problems with ribbons is that they aren't taught them properly or don't see good explanatory material.  And this causes a lot of people to spread the impression that ribbons are a terrrible system and are hard to learn.
 
I am presenting, after my signature, a short tutorial I did on ribbons.  Please don't prejudge ribbons until you work with and practice what you learn from this tutorial.
 
Also, I can't find it now, but I saw an article describing in detail why the virtual menus from JAWS are inferior to working with real ribbons.  If I can find it, and a number of Internet searches haven't turned it up, I'll send it in another article.
 
Gene
I'll provide a brief tutorial based on what I wrote years ago of how to work with ribbons. 
 
I've added a little to it here.
 
I don't know how the organization of Windows has changed in Windows 10 but this description should allow you to look through the Windows ribbons, or any other ribbons, and see how things are organized. 
 
First, I'll discuss a structure found in later versions of Windows that you need to know about-- the split button. 
One thing you will see as you look around ribbons and in other places in Windows are split buttons. A split button often allows you to see more options than just the default action.  Let's take an example. 
Let's say you come across a split button that says shut down Windows.  If you press enter on that button, Windows will shut down.  That is the default action.  Split buttons often show more options if you either right arrow while on the button or down arrow.  As an example, if you are on the shut down split button, you can right arrow and a list of options will open.  the items in the list include sleep, hibernate, restart, and others.  You up or down arrow through the list or use the short cut commands you hear announced as you move through the list.  the letter shortcuts often take actions without pressing enter so be careful when using them, just as you are in menus. 
 
So, let's review.  You find a split button that says shut down.  If you press enter, the computer will shut down. If you right arrow, other options may be displayed.  Or if you down arrow, other options may be displayed.  A split button won't work with both methods.  One method, either right arrowing or down arrowing will do so if it can be done with the button.  Try both methods if you don't know which one might work.  If you are on a tool bar which extends across the screen from left to right, down arrowing will open additional options.  If you think about this, it makes sense.  If you are in a menu, down arrowing will move you to the next item in the menu.  So you right arrow on the split button to cause it to display more options.  In a tool bar that extends across the screen from left to right, right arrowing will move you to the next item in the tool bar.  So you down arrow when on the split button to cause it to display more options.  But some tool bars run up and down the screen, as menus do.  And at times, you may not be sure which way a structure extends on screen.  So, as I said, if you are not sure or don't know, try both methods of causing the split button to display more options.  Often, one of them will work. If you open the options a split button offers and don't want to work with them, arrow in the opposite direction to move out of them.  For example, if you right arrowed to open more options, left arrow. 
Some split buttons don't do anything when you right arrow or down arrow.  In that case, open them with alt down arrow.  Then tab through the additional options.  I've almost never worked in this way with split buttons but if you want to close a split button, try alt up arrow if you've used alt down arrow to open it.
 
Now, to ribbons themselves.
 
Regarding ribbons, much of the complaining about them is not warranted if you understand how they work and how to use short cut commands effectively and efficiently.  and I would strongly recommend against using the JAWS virtual menus, no matter what the JAWS training material says about ribbons being difficult to use.  the training material is just plain wrong and using virtual menus, you will be unnecessarily dependent on one screen-reader.  There are other disadvantages to using them which I won't go into here.
 
Try looking at ribbons and doing what is described below in wordpad.  Everyone with Windows 7 has Wordpad on their machine.  Wordpad provides a good environment to look at and practice working with ribbons.  
 
The essence of working with ribbons is this:
Press alt to move to the upper ribbon.
You will probably be on an item that says home tab. Items on the upper ribbon are announced as tabs such as home tab, view tab, etc. 
To see what ribbons are available, right or left arrow repeatedly to move through the ribbons.  Move in one
direction to move through all of them, just as you would to move through all the menus.
 
For this demonstration, just so we are all doing the same thing, move with the right arrow. When you get back to where you started, you can keep right arrowing to move through the items again, if you wish.  You can move through all the items as many times as you want. Or you can move with the left arrow whenever you want to move in the opposite direction.  
 
Stop on view.  Then start tabbing.  You will move through all items in what is called the lower ribbon that are in the view ribbon. 
 
In other words you tab to see the items in a ribbon once you move to it.  Tab moves you forward through the items, shift tab moves you backword.
So tab and shift tab are used instead of up and down arrow. 
 
Many items in the lower ribbon are buttons.  Use either the space bar or enter to activate the button. You may find a button that opens a menu and if you press enter or the space bar, you will then be in a menu.
 
Each time you move to an item, you will hear the short cut command to work with that item. 
But JAWS has a bug and you often won't.  To hear the short cut, use the command JAWS key tab.  If you are using the default JAWS key, it is either insert.
 
Try tabbing to an item in a Wordpad ribbon and using the command insert tab.  You will hear some extraneous information.  The last thing you will hear is the short cut sequence.  You can repeat the information by repeating the command as often as you want.
 
Let's look at an item which is usually called the application menu.  Return to the main program window in wordpad by closing the ribbons.  You can either press escape repeatedly, if necessary, or you can press alt once.  Now, open the ribbons again with alt. 
Start right arrowing until you get to the application menu.
You will hear application menu and then something like button drop down grid.  Never mind drop down grid.  It's a description you don't have to worry about.  The important things are that you are on a button and at the application menu.  Press enter or the space bar to activate the button.  Activating the button opens the menu.  Start down arrowing. you will hear all the short cut commands necessary to open an item or take an action.  When you got to the menu item, you heard alt f.  When you open the menu and move through it, you will hear all the letters announced.  for example, if you down arrow to save as, you will hear alt f a.  that means that, when you are in the main program window, you open the menu as you always did, alt f, then type a.  Alt f opens the menau and a then opens save as.  Ribbon programs have one menu and you should look through it.  Many important and common commands and interfaces such as options may be there.  By options, I mean the kind of options interface you used to find in the tools menu.
 
Now the we have seen the menu, let's look at the ribbons structure some more.
To review, and add more information, as you have seen, you can move to the ribbon interface with alt.  Then right and left arrow, just as you would move from menu to menu. 
You can also move to a ribbon using alt and a letter.  So, alt h takes you to the home ribbon.  Alt v takes you to the view ribbon, etc.  Once you are on the ribbon you want to work with, tab to move forward through the items in a ribbon.  Shift tab to move back through the items.  So tab and shift tab are used instead of up and down arrow.
Ribbons are divided into categories which you will hear announced as you tab.  for example, in an e-mail program, a ribbon may have a category named respond.  You may hear this announced as respond tool bar.  As you tab, you will hear commands such as reply and forward in the respond category.  When you hear a category announced, don't tab until you hear everything spoken.  You will miss the first command in the category if you do.  I'm talking about working with an unfamiliar ribbon. 
there are often many more commands and items in a ribbon than in a menu.  So memorize command sequences for items you know you will use regularly. 
As I said, there are different categories in ribbons to help organize items.  You can quickly jump from category to category in a ribbon to help you see if there is a category you want to look through. 
Move to a ribbon in Wordpad.  For example, alt h for hhome or alt v for view.
Then repeatedly issue the command control right arrow to move forward from category to category and control left arrow to move back.  When you get to a category you want to hear the items in, start tabbing.  Of course, you can shift tab to move back. 
 
Open a ribbon in Wordpad and tab through it to see how it is organized by moving through it. 
Then use control right arrow to move by category and tab to see what is in a category. 
 
Commands such as control o, control n, control s, control r, etc. are mostly retained in programs
that use ribbons, though you won't hear them announced. If you don't already know them, you'll have to find them in ways such as by looking at a list of keyboard commands for the program.  Such lists are often available in the help for the program. If you already know the commands from having used an older version of the program, most or perhaps even all of the commands you know will work.  


Re: iPhone update?

Barb O'Connor
 

First of all, I don’t think there was any r update that made voiceover unusable. I updated last week and everything is just fine. I have a couple questions however. Perhaps did your friend perhaps turn speech off with a three finger double tap or turn voiceover off with a triple click to the home button? Also the volume may have gotten turn down in which case voiceover would not be able to be heard. Just throwing that out there for you.

Barb

On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:07 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Got a friend, with a friend who has an iPhone. Is there an Apple
update that is recent, like last week, that must be got or it kills
voiceover? If so, any information on how to get this as apparently
this iPhone now is unusable via voiceover until this update is
applied.

Thanks.
Dave.



Re: pay pal alternatives?

Kimsan
 

Zell or venmo.


On Apr 1, 2019, at 12:40 PM, joanne <grandma1323@...> wrote:

My friend is locked out of her pay pal account, and we actually have been wanting to find alternatives anyway. Using jaws and windows 7, can someone recommend a pretty straightforward alternative?
 
Thanks.


Re: Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?

Pamela Dominguez
 

Does that happen with CDEX even if you get it from ninite.com?  Pam.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?
 
I haven't used the XP version of Media Player and I don't know if it is any different than the Windows 7 version.  But the Windows 7 rips and burns well.  As with Microsoft programs of this sort in general, those that come with Windows and are intendede for the user who doesn't want more than a basic program, the program does what it does well but if you want more advanced features, you will have to use other programs.
 
I haven't seen much in the way of answers to this question so I'll say that CDEX is a popular ripping program.  But if you use it, get the portable version.  The installed version will place unwanted programs on your system unless you find the uncheck options during install which are inaccessible with screen-readers in general.  You may see them with System Access or System Access to Go.
 
I've heard of burning programs but I do very little burning and I haven't tried any of them.  I'm not recommending this one but it’s a name I remember.  Any Burn.  I don't know if it places unwanted software on your machine but if its free, as with most free programs these days, it probably does.  So you might not want to play with it until there is discussion from others about how easy it is to tell it not to do so, if it does.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?
 
Hi, I use windows media player to rip my CDs. I have had no problems besides the program not being able to find information on the CD but since most of the CDs I copy are audio books I don't see this as a problem.

So far I haven't needed to burn anything so can't say what windows media player is like for that.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Hooley
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 3:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?

Hi,


In your opinion, which would you say is the most accessible CD burner, ripper or all-in-ones software besides Windows Media Player, or is Windows Media Player the one to use in Windows 10 with narrator or NvDA?

Thanks for any input,


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Re: I phone questions

Monte Single
 

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn. He stated how to place a call with a voice command
What I am talking about is called a "voice command"
It has nothing to do with screenreaders or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like,
Check battery,
Check time,
Signal strength,
New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home and free public spots.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen. If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her. Although, if you find out any different, please let me know. I use Siri for all I can. Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers. Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her. Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that. The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off. I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section. Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Carolyn,
When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read out the number I want Siri to call. Although, I do have Siri set to appear even when I have my phone locked.
I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call. Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You gave me the answer to one of my first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
number or even within your own area code without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No. I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone
and not a smart phone. I don't want to pay for a data pack which I
would hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea of having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
additional features I can use without having to have a data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you
may want to lern how to spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the
power of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm thinking about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online
with Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte










Re: I phone questions

Curtis Delzer
 

I don't believe that any audio command to any iDevice can be made without their response system, Siri, because of it's need for getting data to the outside world and receiving an answer.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 3/31/2019 5:02 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Curtis,
Wow, now, this sounds interesting. Can you tell me how to just tell the phone to call a number, without Siri? I would like to know this one.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

That is what I wondered.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

How do you get the phone to listen to your command?

----- Original Message -----
From: Curtis Delzer <mailto:curtis@calweb.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions


yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number
area code plus number or even within your own area code
without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:


IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my
voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a
numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can
use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20
AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone
questions



Well, No. I am more interested in
using the phone as a cell phone and not a smart phone. I
don't want to pay for a data pack which I would hardly ever
want to use.

I just do not like the idea of
having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a
smart phone may have some additional features I can use
without having to have a data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone
questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new
phone, and want to use Siri, you may want to lern how to
spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to
spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the
untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37
AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone
questions



As usual, I'm thinking about
getting a new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate
a text message, I have to be online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to
make calls without being online with Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I
phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte








Re: pay pal alternatives?

Victor
 

Hello:

I would like an answer to this question as well. Do these alternatives work well with the iPhone and the iPad?

Thank you,

Victor


On Apr 1, 2019, at 12:40 PM, joanne <grandma1323@...> wrote:

My friend is locked out of her pay pal account, and we actually have been wanting to find alternatives anyway. Using jaws and windows 7, can someone recommend a pretty straightforward alternative?
 
Thanks.


iPhone update?

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Got a friend, with a friend who has an iPhone. Is there an Apple
update that is recent, like last week, that must be got or it kills
voiceover? If so, any information on how to get this as apparently
this iPhone now is unusable via voiceover until this update is
applied.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: I phone questions

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


You can go to contacts and there you can use voice over to find the person to call and then locate the button to call the contact. No way You can give voice over a command.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is  the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her.  Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that.  The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off.  I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section.  Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
> Hi Carolyn,
> When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read out the number I want Siri to call.  Although, I do have Siri set to appear even when I have my phone locked.
> I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call.  Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
> Janet
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
> Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
> the Siri button with her turned off?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
> Thank you Curtis.
>
> You  gave me the answer  to one of my  first questions.
>
> I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.
>
>  
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
> Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>  
>
> yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
> number or even within your own area code without siri.
>
>  
> Curtis Delzer
> HS
> W B 6 H E F
> Rialto, CA
>  
>
> On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:
>
> IK,
>
>
>
> I'll state the question again
>
>
>
> Can I make a  call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.
>
> Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
> Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Monte Single
> <mailto:mrsingle@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> Well, No.  I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone
> and not a smart phone.  I don't want to pay for a data pack which I
> would hardly ever want to use.
>
> I just do not like the idea  of having to be on line to use a phone.
>
> Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
> additional features I can use without having to have a data package.
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
> Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> well;
>
> if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you
> may want to lern how to spell the name.
>
>
>
> it's not, S e r i,  it's, S I r i.
>
> just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.
>
>
>
>
>
>        The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the
> power of a dream.
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
> To: TechTalk@groups.io
> <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
> Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> As usual, I'm  thinking   about getting a
> new phone; well, a new used phone.
>
> Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
> online with Seri?
>
> Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online
> with Seri?
>
> I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Monte
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: I phone questions

Janet
 

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen. If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her. Although, if you find out any different, please let me know. I use Siri for all I can. Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers. Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her. Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that. The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off. I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section. Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Carolyn,
When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read out the number I want Siri to call. Although, I do have Siri set to appear even when I have my phone locked.
I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call. Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You gave me the answer to one of my first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
number or even within your own area code without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No. I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone
and not a smart phone. I don't want to pay for a data pack which I
would hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea of having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
additional features I can use without having to have a data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you
may want to lern how to spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the
power of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm thinking about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online
with Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte










Re: Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?

joanne
 

Hi Ann. I actually wish I had a trainer who could show me in-depth how to use ribbons. The menus just look so hard to understand, and then I'll hear things like upper ribbon and lower ribbon, etc. and I feel lost and not sure which column I need. I'm just one of those who has always used the list views and traditional menus, and I don't feel like this has been explained thoroughly to me. You're a good instructor, I know, because your posts are so thoughtful and helpful. You're most likely doing a great job explaining them to your clients. I just haven't really hit on an explanation that makes sense. I even use the old windows live mail because the newer ones had ribbons and it looked so hard to navigate.

That's really it. Maybe it's some kind of visual thing I can't wrap my mind around. But I'm open and have pretty much taught myself computer. If anyone can explain these things and even why it had to be changed to ribbons in the first place, I'll try them.




--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@sero.email>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 11:35 AM
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?

Hi all,

I'm just curious. What is it about ribbons you don't understand? I'm asking as a trainer because I may need to help somebody some day who doesn't understand ribbons. I want to know how to minimize the misunderstanding. I want to know how to explain ribbons so that anyone can understand. Why don't you understand them? I'm asking as a serious question.

As a person who is blind, the appearance of the ribbons can't be what's throwing you. To a screen reader they just sound like menus except that you navigate them in a different way.

I'm not saying that you must use ribbons, I'm just interested in why you don't like or understand them. Jaws has virtual ribbons if you find that helpful as well, though I'd really like to understand your problem. Would you be willing to help a trainer to understand your thinking?

Ann P.



Original message:
I've never understood ribbons and there are a couple free ribbon disablers
online. I think the one I have is Ribbon Disabler but not sure if that's the
exact name. But they're available for those of us who understand the
traditional menus.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@sero.email>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 7:00 AM
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Can I get rid of the ribbon with Windows 7?
Hi all,
Bill, just use f12 when done writing your file and save it in .txt format.
F12 brings you to your good, old, familiar save-as dialog. Tab once to
get to the combo box for your file formats. Wordpad's default is .rtf,
which is also fine and will be readable by any computer.
As for the ribbons, my best advice is to bite the bullet and learn to use
them. It's not hard at all if you remember that the ribbons are merely
the combination of the menu bar and the toolbars in Word. Moreover, there
are keyboard commands for most ribbon options. In addition, all the
keyboard commands that you know and love like ctrl-s and so on still work,
even in win10.
It's not arcane, unlearnable, or incomprehensible. It's just a new menu.
They just packaged the same old stuff in a different box.
Ann P.
Original message:
I would like to write a small .txt file for my list members. Help!
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Re: i phone questions

Curtis Delzer
 

I just hold down the home button and after the tone I just say "call Carolyn." :)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 3/31/2019 3:21 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do
you push the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You gave me the answer to one of my first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions


yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area
code plus number or even within your own area code without
siri.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my voice
without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



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[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it
through the WiFi.

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From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
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Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No. I am more interested in using the
phone as a cell phone and not a smart phone. I don't want
to pay for a data pack which I would hardly ever want to
use.

I just do not like the idea of having to
be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart
phone may have some additional features I can use without
having to have a data package.



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[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and
want to use Siri, you may want to lern how to spell the
name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your
name correctly.





The impossible is the untried, Never
under estimate the power of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
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Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm thinking about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text
message, I have to be online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls
without being online with Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or
7.

Thanks,

Monte





pay pal alternatives?

joanne
 

My friend is locked out of her pay pal account, and we actually have been wanting to find alternatives anyway. Using jaws and windows 7, can someone recommend a pretty straightforward alternative?
 
Thanks.


Re: Windows Twitter App Options

 

TWBlue is a good option.
Since I've been out of Twitter for a while now, I don't know if it's still being developed. I hope so.
You may tri it. It's free, though you can donate if you want.
https://twblue.es

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 01/04/2019 14:37, Joe Orozco disse:

Hi, on the PC, what accessible Twitter apps are folks using? I used to
use Chicken Nugget but understand the developers may have abandoned
work on it. Are there any other similar alternatives that allow one to
use virtual keyboards from anywhere in the Windows environment?

Thanks in advance,

Joe






Windows Twitter App Options

Joe Orozco
 

Hi, on the PC, what accessible Twitter apps are folks using? I used to
use Chicken Nugget but understand the developers may have abandoned
work on it. Are there any other similar alternatives that allow one to
use virtual keyboards from anywhere in the Windows environment?

Thanks in advance,

Joe

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