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Re: Need suggestion for a bag to carry all my tech

Carolyn Arnold
 

A lot of our card players use rolling bags to hold all their stuff - multiple decks of cards for, what I call high-dollar games (not money, just complexity); shufflers; high trays; card holders; score tablets and pens. Of course, I don't carry a shuffler, but all the rest. If I didn't have such a nice bag that my sister gave me, I'd use a roller. If it ever wears out, I'll get one.

So, a bag with wheels sounds like an ideal answer for you too.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 10:13 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need suggestion for a bag to carry all my tech

A rolling bag like that is a good alternative for those who have bad backs. Plus, I think some of them are pretty stylish for a business environment. I’m not sure how stylish backpacks are for a business environment. Of course I’m sure there are all kinds of backpacks that probably look pretty nice in the office.

Victor



On Mar 31, 2019, at 6:42 PM, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@sbcglobal.net <mailto:sugarsyl71@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:



Hi

I gifted a friend with a rolling leather back pck

It’s a large leather pack on whells, so he just rolled it behind him like a small luggage.

It was not as large as suitcase but it had room for a 17’ inch lap top, earphones, a radio and a lot of wires amd tech things he used.

Just a thought.

Smile

sugar



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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 6:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need suggestion for a bag to carry all my tech



I highly recommend a back pack as it has two straps, one for each shoulder which distributes the weight evenly.

This is important; your back will tell you if you do not treat it right.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: March-31-19 7:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need suggestion for a bag to carry all my tech



I am not sure if they are still available but I purchased a bag for my little netbook and now use it for just this type of stuff. It looks just like a laptop bag but smaller.Has handles and a shoulder strap.

Marie





From: Victor

Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:38 PM

To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need suggestion for a bag to carry all my tech



Good question! Personally, our use a backpack and a fanny pack that attaches to it via zippers. But I would like to know what other suggestions people have.

Victor


On Mar 31, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Loy <loyrg2845@gmail.com <mailto:loyrg2845@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have accumulated several tech items that I like to take with me when I go out. I use a cane and don't have enough pockets or hands to carry them. What would be a good type of bag for a man to carry to hold these items. Where could I get such an item?


Re: i phone questions

Carolyn Arnold
 

Right. Siri is only an Internet assistant device that anyone
can use, where VoiceOver is an accessibility aid without
which I, as a totally blind person, could not use an iPhone
like I do.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Siri and voice over are 2 separate things. Voice over was
part of the I phone before siri existed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: March-31-19 4:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

I think you still have Siri with VO off, but you can go into
settings and turn Siri off and still have or have not
VoiceOver.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 2:06 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Monte:




You really aren't on line with Siri. When you press the
home button, you summon Siri and she usually does what you
tell her. I use it all the time.
When I want to text someone, I hit the home button and tell
her to text who I want to send a message to and then she
will read it back to me and if it's what I want to say, then
I will send it. If you don't want Siri, you should probably
turn off voice over. I'm totally blind so I need Siri for
everything. You can also dictate your texts by going to
messages and going to the name and tapping on it and then
hit dictate and say your message and then hit dictate again
to stop it and then go to where it says send and you can
send it. I find that way is harder. To call someone, yes,
you can hit the home button and tell Siri who you want to
call or if you don't want to use Siri, go into the phone app
and find key pad and then you can make the call yourself by
feeling around for the numbers and double tapping on them
and then hit call which is at the bottom of the screen.
That way is also more involved. In answer to your question,
the only way you won't have Siri is by turning off voice
over like I said before. Hope this helps.

Shelly


On 3/30/2019 9:36 AM, Monte Single wrote:


As usual, I'm thinking about getting a new phone;
well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message,
I have to be online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without
being online with Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte


Re: I phone questions

Carolyn Arnold
 

I see it exactly as you do, Janet, unless someone can
explain to me otherwise. I use my phone a lot too. I rarely
use Siri to make calls, because I seem to get better
connection by going to Contacts or Favorites to make them.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 9:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Not possible.

-----Original Message-----
From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Hi Carolyn,
When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and
she does, I can also just press the power button and when
Siri comes about, I read out the number I want Siri to call.
Although, I do have Siri set to appear even when I have my
phone locked.
I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri,
unless I go in to my contacts or my favorites, and double
tap on the number I want to call.
Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do
you push the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You gave me the answer to one of my first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area
code plus number or even within your own area code without
siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my voice without
using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through
the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No. I am more interested in using the phone as a cell
phone and not a smart phone. I don't want to pay for a data
pack which I would hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea of having to be on line to use
a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have
some additional features I can use without having to have a
data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use
Siri, you may want to lern how to spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate
the power of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm thinking about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have
to be online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being
online with Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte


Re: I phone questions

Carolyn Arnold
 

Well yeah, but I thought he said you could tell your phone
without Siri.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 9:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

I did a little searching. You can open your contacts, select
the one you want. there you have option to call.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Arnold
<mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

I'd like to know that one too. It doesn't make sense
to me,
but I'm willing to learn.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 8:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Hi Curtis,
Wow, now, this sounds interesting. Can you tell me
how to
just tell the phone to call a number, without Siri?
I would
like to know this one.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

That is what I wondered.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

How do you get the phone to listen to your command?

----- Original Message -----
From: Curtis Delzer <mailto:curtis@calweb.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions


yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number
area code plus number or even within your own area
code
without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:


IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my
voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a
numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can
use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20
AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone
questions



Well, No. I am more interested in
using the phone as a cell phone and not a smart
phone. I
don't want to pay for a data pack which I would
hardly ever
want to use.

I just do not like the idea of
having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a
smart phone may have some additional features I can
use
without having to have a data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone
questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new
phone, and want to use Siri, you may want to lern
how to
spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to
spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the
untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37
AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone
questions



As usual, I'm thinking about
getting a new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate
a text message, I have to be online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to
make calls without being online with Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I
phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte


Re: Thunderbird update question

Gene
 

I hope you find the button.  I don't use Thunderbird but I wouldn't be surprised if the restart Thunderbird button is not in an obvious place.  I use Chrome most of the time but next time I update Firefox, I'll see where the button is.  it may be in a similar place in both programs.  But if the button works the same way in both programs, you don't have to find it if you know the shortcut.  Just use the command and the program should close and restart.  It's probably the same command in both programs.
 
When you get in message in Firefox or Thunderbird, if you haven't heard it before, listen to it all because there is usually a shortcut command given at the end, or I should say, often two commands for doing something now or not now.  If you listen carefully for the shortcut commands and remember them, you won't have to worry about finding the buttons, some of which may be harder to find than others, but all of which I find annoying to look for.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunderbird update question

Gene:


Thank you so much for your help on this matter.  Once the computer tells
me Thunderbird will start automatically when the update is complete, I
will wait a few minutes and tab around to see if I can find the update. 
I will always restart the program so I will get the new update.  Forget
minimizing it.  Take care.

Shelly

On 4/1/2019 2:39 AM, Gene wrote:
> I'm saying that if you restore the program without closing it, the old
> version will still be running.  The next time you open the program, it
> will update, whenever that is.  You can decide if you want to update
> it now or later but it will occur whenever you open the program
> again.  If the program is running minimized and you restore it, it is
> still the old version running because it wasn't closed and reopened. 
> So the question is, do you want to close and reopen it now or later.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Shelly Kane <mailto:shellykane323@...>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2019 1:22 AM
> *To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] Thunderbird update question
>
> Gene:
>
>
> So you are saying that after I wait a few minutes and then I start
> tabbing around and I find the update and where it says minimized,
> don't click on it.  I'm to close the program and start again like I
> have been doing.  I just want to get the right information.
>
> Shelly
>
> On 3/31/2019 11:04 AM, Gene wrote:
>> All
>> Someone In  the thread said they find the minimized program and cause
>> it not to be minimized after the update and use it. That's fine if
>> you want to just keep using the program in its current version for
>> this session.  But if you want to use the new updated version, you
>> have to close the program and reopen it or use some sort of close
>> button or control provided for that purpose.  It doesn't matter which
>> you do, except that if you use a close button or control, provided by
>> the program after an update, the program will automatically run again
>> and update itself.  If you close the currently running program just
>> by closing it after the update, you have to manually restart it.  In
>> that case, the program will update itself in exactly the same way
>> after you restart it.  You generally have to close running programs
>> and run them again after an update for the program to be updated. 
>> Windows won't allow new files to replace old files when the old files
>> are in use.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Ron Canazzi <mailto:aa2vm@...>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2019 9:35 AM
>> *To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] Thunderbird update question
>>
>> Hi Shelly,
>>
>>
>> Sometimes when any program is being installed and or updated, focus
>> shifts randomly away from the process and sometime you must alt + tab
>> around to find the new installation.  It's just one of the ambiguities
>> of using a screen reader with computers.
>>
>>
>> On 3/31/2019 1:59 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
>> > Dave:
>> >
>> >
>> > I will definitely give that a try next time.  I think I tried it once
>> > and when I tabbed over, nothing happened.  I will let you know what
>> > happens when the next update comes.
>> >
>> > Shelly
>> >
>> > On 3/30/2019 7:43 AM, Dave wrote:
>> >> Good Morning Shelly,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> My Thunderbird Updates go about like yours.  When the update seems
>> to be
>> >> done, I have to Tab around till I get to the list of Running programs,
>> >> where I find Thunderbird is Minimized.  Press Enter on the Minimized
>> >> Thunderbird and it comes right up.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> And I too have no indecation of the Download being finished, or the
>> >> update being installed.  I just wait a few minutes before I Tab
>> around.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Grumpy Dave
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> --
>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>
>>
>>
>



Re: synchronizing bookmarks across multiple browsers

Cristóbal
 

I too was going to mention Eversync. I've looked into this in the past as well, but didn't really find much.
Back in the day when I was still using IE and firefox, I used the Plain Old Favorites add-on to keep my bookmarks synched.
I really haven't found anything worth using. I guess Eversync is a solution, but I don't feel like paying$5 a month for synchronization.
Admittedly though, I haven't checked to see if pricing's changed recently.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 1:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] synchronizing bookmarks across multiple browsers

Check out this link, it is called EverSync.


https://www.everhelper.me/synchronizer.php



On 3/31/2019 4:09 PM, Richard Sherman wrote:
Hi,
Subject line says it. is there a way to synchronize all book marks
across multiple web browsers? I use chrome, Firefox, and as a last
resort internet exploder. if I add a book mark in one is it possible
to have it synch across all the browsers? would like to have this
automatically done without having to log into each and add manually or use import.

Thanks in advance for all suggestions.

Shermanator




Use Voice Control instead of Siri on iPhone - Apple Support

Holly
 


Re: i phone questions

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


Well, all my previous comments on this subject must be wrong. I searched for voice control and there seems to be both voice control and Siri.  on the Iphone, but I could not find a good explanation of the difference. 


Re: iPhone update?

David Mehler
 

If there was no update that was a voiceover killer that's all I know
and I'll pass it on. Maybe there's some other issue with this phone,
again I'm hearing this third hand and the person telling me while
technically proficient is not an iPhone user.
Thanks anyway.
Dave.

On 4/1/19, Holly <feyk7@comcast.net> wrote:
Is it possible that Voice over got turned off accidently and then the phone

was put in Airplane mode?

I did this once and could not get Siri to turn on voice over.





Re: i phone questions

Shelly Kane
 

Monte:


The Apple Accessibility is open 24 hours a day and the phone number is:  877 204-3930  Good luck.


Shelly

On 4/1/2019 3:45 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
I just hold down the home button and after the tone I just say "call Carolyn." :)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 3/31/2019 3:21 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do
you push the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You  gave me the answer  to one of my  first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions


yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area
code plus number or even within your own area code without
siri.

  Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

    IK,



    I'll state the question again



    Can I make a  call on the I phone using my voice
without using Siri.

    Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



    From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
    Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
    To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
    Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



    If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it
through the WiFi.

        ----- Original Message -----

        From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

        To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

        Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

        Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



        Well, No.  I am more interested in using the
phone as a cell phone and not a smart phone.  I don't want
to pay for a data pack which I would hardly ever want to
use.

        I just do not like the idea  of having to
be on line to use a phone.

        Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart
phone may have some additional features I can use without
having to have a data package.



        From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
        Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
        To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
        Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



        well;

        if your thinking of getting a new phone, and
want to use Siri, you may want to lern how to spell the
name.



        it's not, S e r i,  it's, S I r i.

        just like yu would want folks to spell your
name correctly.





               The impossible is the untried,  Never
under estimate the power of a dream.



        From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
        Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
        To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
        Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



        As usual, I'm  thinking   about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

        Is it true that in order to dictate a text
message, I have to be online with Seri?

        Also can I use voice commands to make calls
without being online with Seri?

        I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or
7.

        Thanks,

        Monte






.


Re: I phone questions

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


I was replying to the person who was asking about voice command on and IPhone without using Siri. So if you want voice command and not use Siri you will have to get another type of phone.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

I phone may not be my phone!

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: April-01-19 2:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

 

There is no such thing on an IPhone.  Siri is the only thing you can use for voice command.

-            ---- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single

Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 4:12 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

 

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn.  He  stated how to place a call with a voice command
What I am talking about is called a "voice command"
It has nothing to do  with screenreaders  or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like,
Check battery,
Check time,
Signal strength,
New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid  data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home     and free public spots.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen.  If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her.  Although, if you find out any different, please let me know.  I use Siri for all I can.  Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers.  Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.    
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is  the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her.  Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that.  The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off.  I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section.  Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
> Hi Carolyn,
> When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read out the number I want Siri to call.  Although, I do have Siri set to appear even when I have my phone locked.
> I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call.  Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
> Janet
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
> Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
> the Siri button with her turned off?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
> Thank you Curtis.
>
> You  gave me the answer  to one of my  first questions.
>
> I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.
>
>  
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
> Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>  
>
> yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
> number or even within your own area code without siri.
>
>  
> Curtis Delzer
> HS
> W B 6 H E F
> Rialto, CA
>  
>
> On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:
>
> IK,
>
>
>
> I'll state the question again
>
>
>
> Can I make a  call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.
>
> Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
> Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Monte Single
> <mailto:mrsingle@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> Well, No.  I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone
> and not a smart phone.  I don't want to pay for a data pack which I
> would hardly ever want to use.
>
> I just do not like the idea  of having to be on line to use a phone.
>
> Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
> additional features I can use without having to have a data package.
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
> Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> well;
>
> if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you
> may want to lern how to spell the name.
>
>
>
> it's not, S e r i,  it's, S I r i.
>
> just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.
>
>
>
>
>
>        The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the
> power of a dream.
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
> To: TechTalk@groups.io
> <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
> Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> As usual, I'm  thinking   about getting a
> new phone; well, a new used phone.
>
> Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
> online with Seri?
>
> Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online
> with Seri?
>
> I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Monte
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>












Re: Thunderbird update question

Shelly Kane
 

Gene:


Thank you so much for your help on this matter.  Once the computer tells me Thunderbird will start automatically when the update is complete, I will wait a few minutes and tab around to see if I can find the update.  I will always restart the program so I will get the new update.  Forget minimizing it.  Take care.

Shelly

On 4/1/2019 2:39 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm saying that if you restore the program without closing it, the old version will still be running.  The next time you open the program, it will update, whenever that is.  You can decide if you want to update it now or later but it will occur whenever you open the program again.  If the program is running minimized and you restore it, it is still the old version running because it wasn't closed and reopened.  So the question is, do you want to close and reopen it now or later.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Shelly Kane <mailto:shellykane323@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2019 1:22 AM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] Thunderbird update question

Gene:


So you are saying that after I wait a few minutes and then I start tabbing around and I find the update and where it says minimized, don't click on it.  I'm to close the program and start again like I have been doing.  I just want to get the right information.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 11:04 AM, Gene wrote:
All
Someone In  the thread said they find the minimized program and cause it not to be minimized after the update and use it. That's fine if you want to just keep using the program in its current version for this session.  But if you want to use the new updated version, you have to close the program and reopen it or use some sort of close button or control provided for that purpose.  It doesn't matter which you do, except that if you use a close button or control, provided by the program after an update, the program will automatically run again and update itself.  If you close the currently running program just by closing it after the update, you have to manually restart it.  In that case, the program will update itself in exactly the same way after you restart it.  You generally have to close running programs and run them again after an update for the program to be updated.  Windows won't allow new files to replace old files when the old files are in use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Ron Canazzi <mailto:aa2vm@roadrunner.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2019 9:35 AM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] Thunderbird update question

Hi Shelly,


Sometimes when any program is being installed and or updated, focus
shifts randomly away from the process and sometime you must alt + tab
around to find the new installation.  It's just one of the ambiguities
of using a screen reader with computers.


On 3/31/2019 1:59 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Dave:


I will definitely give that a try next time.  I think I tried it once
and when I tabbed over, nothing happened.  I will let you know what
happens when the next update comes.

Shelly

On 3/30/2019 7:43 AM, Dave wrote:
Good Morning Shelly,


My Thunderbird Updates go about like yours.  When the update seems
to be
done, I have to Tab around till I get to the list of Running programs,
where I find Thunderbird is Minimized.  Press Enter on the Minimized
Thunderbird and it comes right up.


And I too have no indecation of the Download being finished, or the
update being installed.  I just wait a few minutes before I Tab
around.



Grumpy Dave








--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"



Re: iPhone update?

Holly
 

Is it possible that Voice over got turned off accidently and then the phone was put in Airplane mode?

I did this once and could not get Siri to turn on voice over.


Re: I phone questions

Monte Single
 

I phone may not be my phone!

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: April-01-19 2:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

 

There is no such thing on an IPhone.  Siri is the only thing you can use for voice command.

-            ---- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 4:12 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

 

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn.  He  stated how to place a call with a voice command
What I am talking about is called a "voice command"
It has nothing to do  with screenreaders  or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like,
Check battery,
Check time,
Signal strength,
New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid  data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home     and free public spots.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen.  If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her.  Although, if you find out any different, please let me know.  I use Siri for all I can.  Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers.  Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.    
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is  the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her.  Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that.  The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off.  I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section.  Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
> Hi Carolyn,
> When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read out the number I want Siri to call.  Although, I do have Siri set to appear even when I have my phone locked.
> I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call.  Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
> Janet
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
> Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
> the Siri button with her turned off?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
> Thank you Curtis.
>
> You  gave me the answer  to one of my  first questions.
>
> I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.
>
>  
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
> Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>  
>
> yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
> number or even within your own area code without siri.
>
>  
> Curtis Delzer
> HS
> W B 6 H E F
> Rialto, CA
>  
>
> On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:
>
> IK,
>
>
>
> I'll state the question again
>
>
>
> Can I make a  call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.
>
> Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
> Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Monte Single
> <mailto:mrsingle@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> Well, No.  I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone
> and not a smart phone.  I don't want to pay for a data pack which I
> would hardly ever want to use.
>
> I just do not like the idea  of having to be on line to use a phone.
>
> Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
> additional features I can use without having to have a data package.
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
> Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> well;
>
> if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you
> may want to lern how to spell the name.
>
>
>
> it's not, S e r i,  it's, S I r i.
>
> just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.
>
>
>
>
>
>        The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the
> power of a dream.
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
> To: TechTalk@groups.io
> <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
> Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> As usual, I'm  thinking   about getting a
> new phone; well, a new used phone.
>
> Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
> online with Seri?
>
> Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online
> with Seri?
>
> I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Monte
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>












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Bill and Marie Johnson
 

How do I clean up my emails so Greater Than and Dash Dash and all that garbage doesnt appear?



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Re: i phone questions

Leedy Diane Bomar
 

Isn’t holding down the home button, and waiting for the beep, the way to use Siri? The question seemed to be about making a call without using Siri. What am I missing? 

SIRI must have an internet connection to work, which involves a data plan. I didn’t realize that one could purchase a plan for a smartphone, such as an iPhone, without the plan including a data plan. It doesn’t if you own the phone, or not.


 Diane Bomar

On Mar 31, 2019, at 16:56, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

hold down the home key and then wait for the beep.
Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 3/31/2019 5:07 AM, Loy wrote:
How do you get the phone to listen to your command?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus number or even within your own area code without siri.

Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,

I’ll state the question again

Can I make a  call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri. 

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Well, No.  I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone and not a smart phone.  I don’t want  to pay for a data pack which I would hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea  of having to  be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some additional features I can use without having to have a data package.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you may want to lern how to spell the name.

it's not, S e r i,  it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions

As usual, I’m  thinking   about getting a new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online with Seri?

I’m thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte


Re: iPhone update?

Gene
 

It makes no sense that an update would be required to keep Voiceover.  there would be howls of protest and it would be considered an unreasonable and serious accessibility threat. 

I don't have an IPhone but does the phone do things that demonstrate that it is operating?  Not having speech in and of itself doesn't indicate whether a computer or computer-like device is functioning.  In other words, if the person is assuming that, because there is no speech that that is a Voiceover problem, that is an unsupported assumption unless there is evidence to show that the phone is working.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] iPhone update?

It can happen accidentally. It would be certainly worth checking.

Barb
> On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:43 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks, I don't think so, and even if that happened taking this third
> hand contextually from our conversation this person seems like they
> know how to unload/reload voiceover and manipulate volume.
>
> Thanks.
> DAve.
>
>
>> On 4/1/19, Barb O'Connor <broconnor1972@...> wrote:
>> First of all, I don’t think there was any r update that made voiceover
>> unusable. I updated last week and everything is just fine. I have a couple
>> questions however. Perhaps did your friend  perhaps turn speech off with a
>> three finger double tap or turn voiceover off with a triple click to the
>> home button? Also the volume may have gotten turn down in which case
>> voiceover would not be able to be heard. Just throwing that out there for
>> you.
>>
>> Barb
>>> On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:07 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Got a friend, with a friend who has an iPhone. Is there an Apple
>>> update that is recent, like last week, that must be got or it kills
>>> voiceover? If so, any information on how to get this as apparently
>>> this iPhone now is unusable via voiceover until this update is
>>> applied.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Re: I phone questions

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


There is no such thing on an IPhone.  Siri is the only thing you can use for voice command.

-            ---- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn.  He  stated how to place a call with a voice command
What I am talking about is called a "voice command"
It has nothing to do  with screenreaders  or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like,
Check battery,
Check time,
Signal strength,
New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid  data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home     and free public spots.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen.  If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her.  Although, if you find out any different, please let me know.  I use Siri for all I can.  Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers.  Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.    
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is  the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her.  Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that.  The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off.  I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section.  Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
> Hi Carolyn,
> When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read out the number I want Siri to call.  Although, I do have Siri set to appear even when I have my phone locked.
> I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call.  Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
> Janet
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
> Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
> the Siri button with her turned off?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
> Thank you Curtis.
>
> You  gave me the answer  to one of my  first questions.
>
> I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.
>
>  
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
> Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>  
>
> yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
> number or even within your own area code without siri.
>
>  
> Curtis Delzer
> HS
> W B 6 H E F
> Rialto, CA
>  
>
> On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:
>
> IK,
>
>
>
> I'll state the question again
>
>
>
> Can I make a  call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.
>
> Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
> Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Monte Single
> <mailto:mrsingle@...>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> Well, No.  I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone
> and not a smart phone.  I don't want to pay for a data pack which I
> would hardly ever want to use.
>
> I just do not like the idea  of having to be on line to use a phone.
>
> Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
> additional features I can use without having to have a data package.
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
> Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> well;
>
> if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you
> may want to lern how to spell the name.
>
>
>
> it's not, S e r i,  it's, S I r i.
>
> just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.
>
>
>
>
>
>        The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the
> power of a dream.
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
> To: TechTalk@groups.io
> <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
> Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions
>
>
>
> As usual, I'm  thinking   about getting a
> new phone; well, a new used phone.
>
> Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
> online with Seri?
>
> Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online
> with Seri?
>
> I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Monte
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>













Re: iPhone update?

Barb O'Connor
 

It can happen accidentally. It would be certainly worth checking.

Barb

On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:43 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks, I don't think so, and even if that happened taking this third
hand contextually from our conversation this person seems like they
know how to unload/reload voiceover and manipulate volume.

Thanks.
DAve.


On 4/1/19, Barb O'Connor <broconnor1972@comcast.net> wrote:
First of all, I don’t think there was any r update that made voiceover
unusable. I updated last week and everything is just fine. I have a couple
questions however. Perhaps did your friend perhaps turn speech off with a
three finger double tap or turn voiceover off with a triple click to the
home button? Also the volume may have gotten turn down in which case
voiceover would not be able to be heard. Just throwing that out there for
you.

Barb
On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:07 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Got a friend, with a friend who has an iPhone. Is there an Apple
update that is recent, like last week, that must be got or it kills
voiceover? If so, any information on how to get this as apparently
this iPhone now is unusable via voiceover until this update is
applied.

Thanks.
Dave.







Re: Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?

Gene
 

I didn't know you can get it there.  I would think that a Ninite download wouldn't do that but I don't know that.  Others may know.  I do know that the portable version doesn't try to install anything that is unwanted.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?

Does that happen with CDEX even if you get it from ninite.com?  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?
 
I haven't used the XP version of Media Player and I don't know if it is any different than the Windows 7 version.  But the Windows 7 rips and burns well.  As with Microsoft programs of this sort in general, those that come with Windows and are intendede for the user who doesn't want more than a basic program, the program does what it does well but if you want more advanced features, you will have to use other programs.
 
I haven't seen much in the way of answers to this question so I'll say that CDEX is a popular ripping program.  But if you use it, get the portable version.  The installed version will place unwanted programs on your system unless you find the uncheck options during install which are inaccessible with screen-readers in general.  You may see them with System Access or System Access to Go.
 
I've heard of burning programs but I do very little burning and I haven't tried any of them.  I'm not recommending this one but it’s a name I remember.  Any Burn.  I don't know if it places unwanted software on your machine but if its free, as with most free programs these days, it probably does.  So you might not want to play with it until there is discussion from others about how easy it is to tell it not to do so, if it does.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?
 
Hi, I use windows media player to rip my CDs. I have had no problems besides the program not being able to find information on the CD but since most of the CDs I copy are audio books I don't see this as a problem.

So far I haven't needed to burn anything so can't say what windows media player is like for that.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Hooley
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 3:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Most Accessible CD Burner, ripper, or all-in-ones besides windows Media Player?

Hi,


In your opinion, which would you say is the most accessible CD burner, ripper or all-in-ones software besides Windows Media Player, or is Windows Media Player the one to use in Windows 10 with narrator or NvDA?

Thanks for any input,


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