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Re: A Greater Than question

Mike B.
 


Howdy,
 
Below is a download link to a good program for cleaning all the crap out of emails.  Also, below the download link is a tutorial on how to use it for someone that's never used it before.
 
 
Below are the steps that I typed up for someone who had never used Email Stripper so, they are a little long winded.  Email Stripper has a Hot Key built in so, it can be accessed quickly.  The Hot Key is control, alt, + E.  
 
1. Open the Email and press, Control + F, to forward or press, Control + R, to reply.  
 
2. Enter to whom you are sending the Email to if forwarding.  
 
3. Tab to the subject line and press the home/7 key to take the cursor to the beginning of the line  
 
4. Press the delete key to remove any FW's: or, Re:, stuff that is in front of the message or subject title.  
 
5. Tab to the edit field.  
 
6. Press the control + A keys to select the whole message.  Now , press control + C to copy the whole message to the clipboard.  
 
7. Open the Email Stripper program.  
 
8. Tab 1 time, or use the keystroke Alt + P, Jaws will say "paste".  Press the space bar to paste the message into the Email Stripper program.  
 
9. Shift tab 1 time, or use the keystroke Alt + S, Jaws will say "strip it".  Press the space bar to strip the Email of the computer language crap.  
 
10. Shift tab 1 time, Jaws will say "edit".   
 
11. Press control +home/7 keys to take the cursor to the top of the page.  
 
12. Arrow down to the first line of the message and arro up once to give yourself some space if possible.  
 
13. Press the home/7 key to take the cursor to the beginning of the line.  
 
14. Press the control, shift, + home/7 keys to select from the cursor to the top of the page and press the delete key to clean the top of the message.  
 
15. Press the control + end/1 keys to take the cursor to the bottom of the page.  
 
16. Arrow up to the last line of the message and arro down once or twice to give yourself a little room.  
 
17. Press the home/7 key to take the cursor to the beginning of the line.  
 
18. Press control, shift, + end/1 keys to select the text from there to the bottom of the page and press the delete key to remove the crap at the bottom of the message.  
 
19. You can proofread the message if you like to make sure it is the way you want it.  
 
20. Shift tab 1 time or use the keystroke Alt + C,and Jaws will say "copy button".  Press space bar to copy the message to the clipboard.
21. Press Alt + F4 to close the Email Stripper program after you have copied the message to the clipboard.
 
22. You should be back to your original message.  Now press control + A to select everything here and press delete to erase that message because you are going to put a new message in here.  
 
23. Press the control + V keys to paste the message you had cleaned up earlier using the Email Stripper program.  
 
24. Now you can send as usual.  
 
I know this sounds like a lot of steps but, after you get the hang of it, it is really simple.  Trust me.  People will totally appreciate the fact that you are sending them clean Emails.  
 
Using this program will not disturb any clickable links that may be in the message.
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.
Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A Greater Than question

You can get rid of the greater than signs by going into your email reply settings. I agree, they can be very annoying.

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill and Marie Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 3:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] A Greater Than question

How do I clean up my emails so Greater Than and Dash Dash and all that garbage doesnt appear?



Please join me at


MemoriesOfDaysGoneBy+subscribe@groups.io


Bill R Johnson






Re: I phone questions

Pamela Dominguez
 

I thought Consumer Celular was a national company. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 4:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

There is no consumer celluar where I live.
The cheapest data plan would cost me 21 dollars a month.
No Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: April-02-19 1:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

With Consumer Cellular and some other providers, the cheapest data plan is five dollars a month, sixty dollars a year.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Simple.
It's all about money.
Even the cheapest data package will cost about Three hundred dollars a year above the regular phone costs.
Three hundred a year will buy me a new computer every second year.If I want to use Siri or Dick or Jane, I can do that with my wifi at home or public locations such as libraries, coffee shops, etc.
When one is on a fixed income, one thinks twice before adding more bills to the monthly budget.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: April-02-19 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Monte,
I just would like to know why you have such an aversion to using Siri. It makes no sense that you would want voice commands but not use Siri which is so much mor powerful and accessible. If using voice commands as with the flip phones, there are a limited number of commands that you can use with no flexibility that Siri can give you. Why bother with a smart phone if you intend to use it like a flip phone?

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Yes, but the voice command he used worked because siri heard him and responded to his command. What people are trying to explain to you, regardless of what your Samsung rugby does, is that with the IPhone, it's siri that makes these voice commands possible.
In short, the iPhone does not have such capabilities without using siri.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: April 1, 2019 5:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn. He stated how to place a call with a voice command What I am talking about is called a "voice command"
It has nothing to do with screenreaders or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like, Check battery, Check time, Signal strength, New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home and free public spots.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen. If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her. Although, if you find out any different, please let me know. I use Siri for all I can. Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers. Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her. Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that. The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off. I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section. Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Carolyn,
When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I
can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read
out the number I want Siri to call. Although, I do have Siri set to
appear even when I have my phone locked.
I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in
to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call.
Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You gave me the answer to one of my first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
number or even within your own area code without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No. I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone and
not a smart phone. I don't want to pay for a data pack which I would
hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea of having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
additional features I can use without having to have a data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you may
want to lern how to spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power
of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm thinking about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online with
Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte










Re: A Greater Than question

Gene
 

If you want to keep the program from placing greater than signs in previously written messages that are included in the reply, you may be able to tell e-mail programs not to include them or to use different signs.  If that is what is wanted, and if thunderbird allows it, that will solve the problem. 
 
It won't remove any signs other e-mail programs have placed in the replies, it just will stop your program from adding more, or any. 
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A Greater Than question

Is that getting rid of them, or is it just telling your screenreader not to
speak them?  Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 11:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A Greater Than question

You can get rid of the greater than signs by going into your email reply
settings. I agree, they can be very annoying.

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bill and Marie Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 3:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] A Greater Than question

How do I clean up my emails so Greater Than and Dash Dash and all that
garbage doesnt appear?



Please join me at


MemoriesOfDaysGoneBy+subscribe@groups.io


Bill R Johnson









Re: A Greater Than question

Pamela Dominguez
 

Is that getting rid of them, or is it just telling your screenreader not to speak them? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 11:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A Greater Than question

You can get rid of the greater than signs by going into your email reply settings. I agree, they can be very annoying.

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill and Marie Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 3:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] A Greater Than question

How do I clean up my emails so Greater Than and Dash Dash and all that garbage doesnt appear?



Please join me at


MemoriesOfDaysGoneBy+subscribe@groups.io


Bill R Johnson


Re: radio scanner?

Pamela Dominguez
 

What's an accessible radio scanner? I just used to use regular scanners. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 9:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] radio scanner?

hi guys, Wondering if there is such a beast as an accessible radio
scanner for the blind users?.
--
All The Best
Billy


Re: Is there a list of special symbols and how to type them?

TerriLynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
 

Not sure if this keystroke includes the symbols you are looking for, but if
you are using JAWS, you can hold down the JAWS or insert key and press the
number 4 on the number row. This brings up a list of various symbols you can
print.

TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 5:30 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a list of special symbols and how to type
them?

Hi all,

Sharon, the tilde is the shifted accent grave key next to the number 1
on the top row of the keyboard.

Ann P.

Original message:
Hi,

does anyone know where I can get a list of special key combinations to
make special symbols used for programming?  I've come across one that I
don't know how to make.  It's the tilde. Any help would be much
appreciated.


Thanks,


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Re: I phone questions

Monte Single
 

There is no consumer celluar where I live.
The cheapest data plan would cost me 21 dollars a month.
No Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: April-02-19 1:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

With Consumer Cellular and some other providers, the cheapest data plan is five dollars a month, sixty dollars a year.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Simple.
It's all about money.
Even the cheapest data package will cost about Three hundred dollars a year above the regular phone costs.
Three hundred a year will buy me a new computer every second year.If I want to use Siri or Dick or Jane, I can do that with my wifi at home or public locations such as libraries, coffee shops, etc.
When one is on a fixed income, one thinks twice before adding more bills to the monthly budget.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: April-02-19 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Monte,
I just would like to know why you have such an aversion to using Siri. It makes no sense that you would want voice commands but not use Siri which is so much mor powerful and accessible. If using voice commands as with the flip phones, there are a limited number of commands that you can use with no flexibility that Siri can give you. Why bother with a smart phone if you intend to use it like a flip phone?

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Yes, but the voice command he used worked because siri heard him and responded to his command. What people are trying to explain to you, regardless of what your Samsung rugby does, is that with the IPhone, it's siri that makes these voice commands possible.
In short, the iPhone does not have such capabilities without using siri.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: April 1, 2019 5:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn. He stated how to place a call with a voice command What I am talking about is called a "voice command"
It has nothing to do with screenreaders or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like, Check battery, Check time, Signal strength, New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home and free public spots.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen. If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her. Although, if you find out any different, please let me know. I use Siri for all I can. Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers. Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her. Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that. The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off. I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section. Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Carolyn,
When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I
can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read
out the number I want Siri to call. Although, I do have Siri set to
appear even when I have my phone locked.
I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in
to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call.
Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You gave me the answer to one of my first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
number or even within your own area code without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No. I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone and
not a smart phone. I don't want to pay for a data pack which I would
hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea of having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
additional features I can use without having to have a data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you may
want to lern how to spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power
of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm thinking about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online with
Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte










Re: I phone questions

Carolyn Arnold
 

With Consumer Cellular and some other providers, the cheapest data plan is five dollars a month, sixty dollars a year.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Simple.
It's all about money.
Even the cheapest data package will cost about Three hundred dollars a year above the regular phone costs.
Three hundred a year will buy me a new computer every second year.If I want to use Siri or Dick or Jane, I can do that with my wifi at home or public locations such as libraries, coffee shops, etc.
When one is on a fixed income, one thinks twice before adding more bills to the monthly budget.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: April-02-19 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Monte,
I just would like to know why you have such an aversion to using Siri. It makes no sense that you would want voice commands but not use Siri which is so much mor powerful and accessible. If using voice commands as with the flip phones, there are a limited number of commands that you can use with no flexibility that Siri can give you. Why bother with a smart phone if you intend to use it like a flip phone?

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Yes, but the voice command he used worked because siri heard him and responded to his command. What people are trying to explain to you, regardless of what your Samsung rugby does, is that with the IPhone, it's siri that makes these voice commands possible.
In short, the iPhone does not have such capabilities without using siri.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: April 1, 2019 5:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn. He stated how to place a call with a voice command What I am talking about is called a "voice command"
It has nothing to do with screenreaders or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like, Check battery, Check time, Signal strength, New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home and free public spots.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen. If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her. Although, if you find out any different, please let me know. I use Siri for all I can. Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers. Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her. Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that. The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off. I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section. Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Carolyn,
When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I
can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read
out the number I want Siri to call. Although, I do have Siri set to
appear even when I have my phone locked.
I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in
to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call.
Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You gave me the answer to one of my first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
number or even within your own area code without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No. I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone and
not a smart phone. I don't want to pay for a data pack which I would
hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea of having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
additional features I can use without having to have a data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you may
want to lern how to spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power
of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm thinking about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online with
Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte










Re: I phone questions

Monte Single
 

Yes, cell plan with zero data; that's me. Like Wayne says, There is wifi at home and lots available in public places.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of wayne
Sent: April-02-19 4:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

When it comes to cell phones and data plans, from consumer cellular you can get a plan with or without data. We have a plan with them that does not include any data, and we use wi-fi all the time for all of our data. it doesn't matter if you use siri or not but siri works well on the wi-fi. So, having said all that consumer cellular lets us make phone calls. We have 2 iphones for a wopping $35 a month. by the way we have alternative plans with t-mobile that includes data, the experience is the same whether we're using the consumer cellular or t-mobile. The only time it would make a difference is when we're on consumer cellular, if we needed data and we couldn't find a wi-fi network. knock on wood, that hasn't happened yet.
-
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@sasktel.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions


Simple.
It's all about money.
Even the cheapest data package will cost about
Three hundred dollars a year above the regular phone costs.
Three hundred a year will buy me a new computer every second year.If I want
to use Siri or Dick or Jane, I can do that with my wifi at home or public
locations such as libraries, coffee shops, etc.
When one is on a fixed income, one thinks twice before adding more bills
to the monthly budget.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Marie
Sent: April-02-19 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Monte,
I just would like to know why you have such an aversion to using Siri. It
makes no sense that you would want voice commands but not use Siri which is
so much mor powerful and accessible. If using voice commands as with the
flip phones, there are a limited number of commands that you can use with no
flexibility that Siri can give you. Why bother with a smart phone if you
intend to use it like a flip phone?

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Yes, but the voice command he used worked because siri heard him and
responded to his command. What people are trying to explain to you,
regardless of what your Samsung rugby does, is that with the IPhone, it's
siri that makes these voice commands possible.
In short, the iPhone does not have such capabilities without using siri.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte
Single
Sent: April 1, 2019 5:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn. He stated how to place a
call with a voice command What I am talking about is called a "voice
command"
It has nothing to do with screenreaders or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it
is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like, Check
battery, Check time, Signal strength, New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri
existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home and free public spots.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not
going to happen. If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button
on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a
name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have
Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or
just say dial, and read out the number to her. Although, if you find out
any different, please let me know. I use Siri for all I can. Monte, you
need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it
reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our
computers. Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure,
you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to
your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call,
and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through,
although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings,
you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her. Me
personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that. The
bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to
use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off. I
think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that
section. Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be
able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of
these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Carolyn,
When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I
can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read
out the number I want Siri to call. Although, I do have Siri set to
appear even when I have my phone locked.
I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in
to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to
call.
Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You gave me the answer to one of my first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
number or even within your own area code without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No. I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone and
not a smart phone. I don't want to pay for a data pack which I would
hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea of having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
additional features I can use without having to have a data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you may
want to lern how to spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power
of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm thinking about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online with
Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte










Re: I phone questions

wayne <greenwood33@...>
 

When it comes to cell phones and data plans, from consumer cellular you can get a plan with or without data. We have a plan with them that does not include any data, and we use wi-fi all the time for all of our data. it doesn't matter if you use siri or not but siri works well on the wi-fi. So, having said all that consumer cellular lets us make phone calls. We have 2 iphones for a wopping $35 a month. by the way we have alternative plans with t-mobile that includes data, the experience is the same whether we're using the consumer cellular or t-mobile. The only time it would make a difference is when we're on consumer cellular, if we needed data and we couldn't find a wi-fi network. knock on wood, that hasn't happened yet.
-
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@sasktel.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions


Simple.
It's all about money.
Even the cheapest data package will cost about
Three hundred dollars a year above the regular phone costs.
Three hundred a year will buy me a new computer every second year.If I want to use Siri or Dick or Jane, I can do that with my wifi at home or public locations such as libraries, coffee shops, etc.
When one is on a fixed income, one thinks twice before adding more bills to the monthly budget.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: April-02-19 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Monte,
I just would like to know why you have such an aversion to using Siri. It makes no sense that you would want voice commands but not use Siri which is so much mor powerful and accessible. If using voice commands as with the flip phones, there are a limited number of commands that you can use with no flexibility that Siri can give you. Why bother with a smart phone if you intend to use it like a flip phone?

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Yes, but the voice command he used worked because siri heard him and responded to his command. What people are trying to explain to you, regardless of what your Samsung rugby does, is that with the IPhone, it's siri that makes these voice commands possible.
In short, the iPhone does not have such capabilities without using siri.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: April 1, 2019 5:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn. He stated how to place a call with a voice command What I am talking about is called a "voice command"
It has nothing to do with screenreaders or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like, Check battery, Check time, Signal strength, New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home and free public spots.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen. If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her. Although, if you find out any different, please let me know. I use Siri for all I can. Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers. Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her. Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that. The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off. I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section. Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Carolyn,
When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I
can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read
out the number I want Siri to call. Although, I do have Siri set to
appear even when I have my phone locked.
I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in
to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call.
Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You gave me the answer to one of my first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
number or even within your own area code without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No. I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone and
not a smart phone. I don't want to pay for a data pack which I would
hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea of having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
additional features I can use without having to have a data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you may
want to lern how to spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power
of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm thinking about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online with
Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte










Re: Product Recognition

Cristóbal
 

Outside of getting a dedicated device for this sort of thing, SeeingAI is probably going to be your best bet when you take into consideration ease of use, rapidity and cost.
My understanding is that for items that are curved like this (cans, jars, etc), these apps are going to have a harder time with the barcodes
While I do over all find the barcode scanning function to be helpful in SeeingAI, it can lend itself to frustration a lot.
Life is full of compromises I suppose.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 11:38 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Product Recognition

Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of the reviews.

Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?

Thanks for any help.

Joe


Product Recognition

Joe Orozco
 

Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
the reviews.

Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?

Thanks for any help.

Joe


Re: Win10 Skype App: answering Calls

chris judge
 

Oh, thanks, I didn't realize that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: April 2, 2019 1:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 Skype App: answering Calls

Hi,
Actually, it does: when a call comes in, press Windows+V (Windows+Shift+V in
Version 1809 and later) and press Enter.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris
judge
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 9:04 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 Skype App: answering Calls

Hi Rob. Why not dump the win 10 skype app and use skype electron instead.
It's more accessible. I think one of the differences is that the win 10 app
doesn't have hot keys for things like this. With skype electron, you can use
shift control P to answer calls. You still have to be in the skype window,
but it's much easier than tabbing to the answer button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob
Hudson
Sent: April 2, 2019 12:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 Skype App: answering Calls

Is there an easy way to answer calls with the win 10 skype app, without
having to tab forever? There don't seem to be any hotkeys. By the time I've
tabbled to the notifications in skype interface, the ring tone has ended.


Re: radio scanner?

Steve Matzura
 

That depends on what you call "accessible". From the front panel, there are none. No scanner has a voiced or large print display. In fact, the print on most scanner displays is quite small. However, many scanners can be controlled by a Windows computer. Some require two programs to do this--one to manage the database of scanned frequencies and how you want to listen to them, and another to actually view what the radio is listening to, with the possibility of logging that data to disk, and even potentially recording what is received. The Uniden line of scanners is best for these purposes, and the Proscan software from http://www.proscan.org is best for logging and recording from just about any of the modern scanners. I've owned a Uniden BCD536HP for years. HP stands for "Home Patrol." Home Patrol is a line of scanners that comes with a built-in database of frequencies for just about every area of the U.S. and Canada, stored on a microSD card, so all the new user has to do is unbox the radio, connect it to power, turn it on, enter their US ZIP or Canadian postal code, and start hearing things from their local area. The control software from Uniden is quite usable, but not 100% accessible. Some workaround are definitely required, and knowing the ins and outs of your screenreader are more than a plus--they're a must.

On 4/2/2019 9:18 AM, Billy Inglis wrote:
hi guys, Wondering if there is such a beast as an accessible radio scanner for the blind users?.


Re: I phone questions

Monte Single
 

Simple.
It's all about money.
Even the cheapest data package will cost about
Three hundred dollars a year above the regular phone costs.
Three hundred a year will buy me a new computer every second year.If I want to use Siri or Dick or Jane, I can do that with my wifi at home or public locations such as libraries, coffee shops, etc.
When one is on a fixed income, one thinks twice before adding more bills to the monthly budget.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: April-02-19 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Monte,
I just would like to know why you have such an aversion to using Siri. It makes no sense that you would want voice commands but not use Siri which is so much mor powerful and accessible. If using voice commands as with the flip phones, there are a limited number of commands that you can use with no flexibility that Siri can give you. Why bother with a smart phone if you intend to use it like a flip phone?

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Yes, but the voice command he used worked because siri heard him and responded to his command. What people are trying to explain to you, regardless of what your Samsung rugby does, is that with the IPhone, it's siri that makes these voice commands possible.
In short, the iPhone does not have such capabilities without using siri.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: April 1, 2019 5:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn. He stated how to place a call with a voice command What I am talking about is called a "voice command"
It has nothing to do with screenreaders or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like, Check battery, Check time, Signal strength, New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home and free public spots.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen. If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her. Although, if you find out any different, please let me know. I use Siri for all I can. Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers. Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her. Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that. The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off. I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section. Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Carolyn,
When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I
can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read
out the number I want Siri to call. Although, I do have Siri set to
appear even when I have my phone locked.
I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in
to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call.
Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You gave me the answer to one of my first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
number or even within your own area code without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
<mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No. I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone and
not a smart phone. I don't want to pay for a data pack which I would
hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea of having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
additional features I can use without having to have a data package.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you may
want to lern how to spell the name.



it's not, S e r i, it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.





The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power
of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm thinking about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online with
Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte










help, all of a sudden, win amps won't play wav files any more.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all, I am using jaws 2019, and a windows ten computer. How the heck do I fix this? I am also using the latest win amps download. Jim


Thunderbird questions about message replies

Bill and Marie Johnson
 

Where are the bulk of my reply settings? Also, one of those is to keep a copy in sent messages folder.
Maybe then I can get rid of those nasty dashes and Greater Thans.



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Bill R Johnson


Re: Win10 Skype App: answering Calls

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi,
Actually, it does: when a call comes in, press Windows+V (Windows+Shift+V in
Version 1809 and later) and press Enter.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris
judge
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 9:04 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 Skype App: answering Calls

Hi Rob. Why not dump the win 10 skype app and use skype electron instead.
It's more accessible. I think one of the differences is that the win 10 app
doesn't have hot keys for things like this. With skype electron, you can use
shift control P to answer calls. You still have to be in the skype window,
but it's much easier than tabbing to the answer button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob
Hudson
Sent: April 2, 2019 12:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 Skype App: answering Calls

Is there an easy way to answer calls with the win 10 skype app, without
having to tab forever? There don't seem to be any hotkeys. By the time I've
tabbled to the notifications in skype interface, the ring tone has ended.


Re: Win10 Skype App: answering Calls

chris judge
 

Hi Rob. Why not dump the win 10 skype app and use skype electron instead.
It's more accessible. I think one of the differences is that the win 10 app
doesn't have hot keys for things like this. With skype electron, you can use
shift control P to answer calls. You still have to be in the skype window,
but it's much easier than tabbing to the answer button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob
Hudson
Sent: April 2, 2019 12:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 Skype App: answering Calls

Is there an easy way to answer calls with the win 10 skype app, without
having to tab forever? There don't seem to be any hotkeys. By the time I've
tabbled to the notifications in skype interface, the ring tone has ended.


Re: radio scanner?

luke scholey <l.scholey@...>
 

What about an SDR?
Luke

On 2 Apr 2019, at 14:18, Billy Inglis <william.inglis72@gmail.com> wrote:

hi guys, Wondering if there is such a beast as an accessible radio scanner for the blind users?.
--
All The Best
Billy


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