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Re: extremely upset
Gene
You may not need sighted assistance. I doubt
that changing the interface changes anything in the system tray.
The system tray dialog may not work efficiently
with NVDA since the update. But you can get to the menu people are used to
working with in the following way:
Move to the system tray with Windows key
b.
Find the DropBox icon.
Once there, press enter.
The context menu will open.
Find properties and press enter.
Try tabbing around. Do you see anything about
using the old interface? Since there is a button about trying the new
interface if you haven't switched, there is likely something about using the
original or old or however they word it interface.
I haven't played with this because I don't want to
change the interface as an experiment. Also, I find the user error
hypothesis to be unlikely. That would imply that you changed the setting
to cause the new interface to be displayed. Since doing so requires an
active change, going to the system tray and changing the setting, the program
may have changed the settings on its own. It may be that this shouldn't
happen, but unless you are a sleepwalker and use computers in your sleep, user
error, though possible, can't be assumed.
I believe I have the latest version of the
program. When it updated, nothing changed in my settings so your
experience may be an anomaly.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
There are two things going on here, if you'll pardon me. First, ignorance is not something which is funny. It is something which needs to be remedied. It's not funny to discover that you have seemingly lost all your data, data which is part of your livelihood. Second, the new interface for Dropbox is in accessible to me. I have tried to make the buttons activate and they do not. I have attempted to figure out how the new interface works so that I can access my files from the desktop instead of going through Windows Explorer. It is important that this new interface work for users who are blind or visually impaired, and as far as I can see, it does not do so. User error it may be, but it is the user who operates the computer. I would ask you to reexamine your cavalier attitude and change it to something more tolerant and helpful. As a teacher both of braille and computer technology, I find amusement at the expense of another crass and socially unacceptable. Now I've been known to grumble about questions asked which I think are obvious, but I never laugh at those who ask these questions. The only dumb question is the one which isn't asked. As an asside, have you ever really examined the saying in the sentence before this one? Dumb has two meanings which I never tumbled to until recently. Dumb can mean stupid, but it can also mean silent, as in unable to speak. If you think about that, the saying has a layered meaning. It's actually a play on words. No matter how much I may grumble about folks who ask simple questions, and sometimes I can be a bit sharp tongued, it is exasperation at the training folks have been given that irks me. I will get some sighted assistance and I will probably be able to configure DropBox so that it will come up in a list view the way it used to do. In the meantime, I will access my files via Windows Explorer. They have not been lost to me. Life will continue. However, I will remember that feeling of fear and utter helplessness so that when somebody else experiences it I can be helpful instead of amused. Ann P. Original message: > Haha. Didn’t even bother to ask if this had been tried as I thought it > was just understood that you could access your files this way. Indeed, > this is how I’ve and pretty much everyone I know accesses their files > via the folder any of these cloud programs install. > I thought it was odd that Dropbox supposedly suddenly became completely > inaccessible since they all more or less work the same way. > Basically user issue. Not the actual software. > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:36 PM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] extremely upset > You may want to see if you can change how DropBox displays but it may > not matter except as something you just want to do. It appears you can > do everything you want working with the folder itself, add or delete > files and folders, share and send links to files and folders, and > anything else you usually do. > Its interesting that this solution works. > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ann Parsons <mailto:akp@...> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 4:21 PM > To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] extremely upset > Hi Gene, > At this point, I don't care. I'll get help to fix the dingdong > dropbox. I thought I had lost access to my files. I'm just glad I can > access them! > Ann P. > Original message: >> But will that help? Since you are working with the folder on the hard >> drive using Windows Explorer, if you open the context menu, will you >> see any of the options you see when in the actual DropBox interface >> such as copy link? >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jaffar Sidek <mailto:jaffar.sidek10@... >> <mailto:jaffar.sidek10@...>> >> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 10:23 AM >> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>> >> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] extremely upset >> Anne. Go to your c:\user\name,, Anne or Parsons if you name your pc >> thus, and navigate to your dropbox folder. Your files should all be >> there. Cheers! >> On 7/15/2019 9:02 PM, Ann Parsons wrote: >>> Morning all, >>> I use DropBox to save my files. I have important files in there like >>> my students' files. >>> Warning! Warning!! Warning!! DropBox is now touting a new and >>> improved desktop app that is supposed to make it possible to sync your >>> stuff with all the crap that's out there like google drive and one >>> drive and icloud and so on and on. The interface is a bunch of >>> buttons that don't work. I have tried on win7 and win10. It says >>> that I'm supposed to be seeing a list, but I'm not seeing one. I >>> can't access my folders. >>> I just sent a blistering message to DropBox, and they probably won't >>> answer me because right now I'm extremely emotional about this. I'm >>> being paid to tutor students, and I can't do that if I can't access >>> their folders and the info I need. I hope somebody who has some clout >>> can jump on these people and do considerable damage to them. If they >>> have a new interface, then it's got to be accessible, and right now it >>> isn't. I'm so mad I could jump up and down on my roof and scream! I >>> don't suppose anyone can help me? >>> Ann P. >> -- >> Pictures paint a thousand words; >> Melodies paint a thousand dreams; >> Music paints a thousand worlds; >> Movies light up fantasy screens. > -- > Ann K. Parsons > Portal Tutoring > EMAIL: akp@... <mailto:akp@...> > Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ > <http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/> > Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info > <http://www.portaltutoring.info> > Skype: Putertutor > "All that is gold does not glitter, > Not all those who wander are lost." > -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@... Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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ccleaner accessibility
David Mehler
Hello,
Trying to use ccleaner it's v5.60 I believe and IMO accessibility has really gone downhill. How are people using it to clean their machines? I am wanting to individually select items in the list of items to be cleaned, but there is no indication of whether they're selected or not. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave.
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Chromebook question
Is there to display a PowerPoint document on a Chromebook?
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internet storage
Monte Single
I currently have a paid sendspace account. Are there cheaper alternatives for storage and sharing of files. If I cannot share files from the account as I can do with sendspace, I am not interested in the service. Currently it is almost 100 u s dollars a year for the paid s s account. I would like to find something less expensive but accessible. I would not need more than 100 gig of storage? Suggestions? Thanks, Monte
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Re: email lists for discussing old access technology?
Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
I emailed fonixTalk or whatever they are called now about using decTalk. would you believe they want a starting price of $9000.00 united states dollars for the old decTalk developer kit, sdk? I told them no, I'll just use the free decTalk stuff that is currently available around the internet for free. It's that old I don't think they really care because people for the most part have moved onto eloquence or Nuance vocalizer voices anyway. Is there anyone on here who still uses infovox230? the old from from telia promotor back in the late 1990s early 2000s?
Josh
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Re: extremely upset
Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
I also updated to the latest windows10 and I have no issues with the start menu search box. It is working fine. Of course I did put windows on a flash drive and did a clean install of windows 10 32bit on my RCA cambio tablet.
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Re: extremely upset
Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
I switched to google drive and deleted my dropbox account and have not looked back. Google drive gives me more storage for less money and it is very accessible. I use google drive, and google drive only.
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Re: extremely upset
Ron Canazzi
Hi Ann,
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Earlier in this thread, I asked what version of Drop Box you are using. I am using 76.4.126. I always let my Drop Box update automatically. Is this the latest version? If so, I am not having any interface issues. When I open the context menu or double left click on it. All the buttons/edit fields are accessible.
On 7/16/2019 7:30 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all, --
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: extremely upset
Ann Parsons
Hi all,
According to the info I got, DropBox gave me this "special prerelease because I'm one of their favored customers". I am going to explore more in the coming days and also get some sighted help. I think I can or at least am supposed to be able to change the preferences. I have tried, but the buttons do not activate. I'm using NVDA on win10. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: extremely upset
Ann Parsons
Hi all,
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There are two things going on here, if you'll pardon me. First, ignorance is not something which is funny. It is something which needs to be remedied. It's not funny to discover that you have seemingly lost all your data, data which is part of your livelihood. Second, the new interface for Dropbox is in accessible to me. I have tried to make the buttons activate and they do not. I have attempted to figure out how the new interface works so that I can access my files from the desktop instead of going through Windows Explorer. It is important that this new interface work for users who are blind or visually impaired, and as far as I can see, it does not do so. User error it may be, but it is the user who operates the computer. I would ask you to reexamine your cavalier attitude and change it to something more tolerant and helpful. As a teacher both of braille and computer technology, I find amusement at the expense of another crass and socially unacceptable. Now I've been known to grumble about questions asked which I think are obvious, but I never laugh at those who ask these questions. The only dumb question is the one which isn't asked. As an asside, have you ever really examined the saying in the sentence before this one? Dumb has two meanings which I never tumbled to until recently. Dumb can mean stupid, but it can also mean silent, as in unable to speak. If you think about that, the saying has a layered meaning. It's actually a play on words. No matter how much I may grumble about folks who ask simple questions, and sometimes I can be a bit sharp tongued, it is exasperation at the training folks have been given that irks me. I will get some sighted assistance and I will probably be able to configure DropBox so that it will come up in a list view the way it used to do. In the meantime, I will access my files via Windows Explorer. They have not been lost to me. Life will continue. However, I will remember that feeling of fear and utter helplessness so that when somebody else experiences it I can be helpful instead of amused. Ann P. Original message:
Haha. Didn’t even bother to ask if this had been tried as I thought it was just understood that you could access your files this way. Indeed, this is how I’ve and pretty much everyone I know accesses their files via the folder any of these cloud programs install. I thought it was odd that Dropbox supposedly suddenly became completely inaccessible since they all more or less work the same way. Basically user issue. Not the actual software. From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene You may want to see if you can change how DropBox displays but it may not matter except as something you just want to do. It appears you can do everything you want working with the folder itself, add or delete files and folders, share and send links to files and folders, and anything else you usually do. Its interesting that this solution works. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Parsons <mailto:akp@sero.email> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 4:21 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] extremely upset Hi Gene, At this point, I don't care. I'll get help to fix the dingdong Ann P. Original message:But will that help? Since you are working with the folder on the hard From: Jaffar Sidek <mailto:jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com <mailto:jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>> On 7/15/2019 9:02 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:Morning all, I use DropBox to save my files. I have important files in there like Warning! Warning!! Warning!! DropBox is now touting a new and I just sent a blistering message to DropBox, and they probably won't Ann P. -- -- "All that is gold does not glitter, --
Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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i devices resource needs updated in the monthly news letter
Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
The I devices email address is not right that goes out in the monthly resource that goes out every month. Also any other iPhone lists should be added as well.
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Re: extremely upset
Gene and Ann,
Gene asked:
When you were automatically updated to the latest DropBox version, was the new inaccessible interface used automatically or did you get a message, even an inaccessible message where you could see a yes and no option?Well, as far as I know, my Dropbox is 100% up to date and so far I haven't gotten any question on this. And my Dropbox is still fully accessible *knocking on wood*. Gene wrote: Also, according to DropBox, you can set your preferences so DropBox will open using the old display. Can you get to preferences and work with them from the system tray as you could in earlier versions? If so, that may well solve your problem.It makes me wonder if my dropbox is indeed up to date. Because I don't see this option of old display and such. However, going to Preferences, I can see a button labeled "try the new Dropbox for Desktop" or something like that. Needless to say that I haven't clicked on this since who knows what kind of problems this could give me :) I know it doesn't help much, but this is just my two cents on the matter. Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more!
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Re: extremely upset
Evan Reese
Yeah, I’ve never used the Dropbox application on my Windows 7 laptop.
I just go to the Dropbox folder in the Documents folder and add or delete
files from the Shared folders I have in there.
Evan
Haha. Didn’t even bother to ask if this had been tried as I thought it was just understood that you could access your files this way. Indeed, this is how I’ve and pretty much everyone I know accesses their files via the folder any of these cloud programs install. I thought it was odd that Dropbox supposedly suddenly became completely inaccessible since they all more or less work the same way. Basically user issue. Not the actual software.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
You may want to see if you can change how DropBox displays but it may not matter except as something you just want to do. It appears you can do everything you want working with the folder itself, add or delete files and folders, share and send links to files and folders, and anything else you usually do.
Its interesting that this solution works.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hi Gene,
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Re: extremely upset
Cristóbal
Haha. Didn’t even bother to ask if this had been tried as I thought it was just understood that you could access your files this way. Indeed, this is how I’ve and pretty much everyone I know accesses their files via the folder any of these cloud programs install. I thought it was odd that Dropbox supposedly suddenly became completely inaccessible since they all more or less work the same way. Basically user issue. Not the actual software.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:36 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] extremely upset
You may want to see if you can change how DropBox displays but it may not matter except as something you just want to do. It appears you can do everything you want working with the folder itself, add or delete files and folders, share and send links to files and folders, and anything else you usually do.
Its interesting that this solution works.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hi Gene,
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Re: extremely upset
Gene
You may want to see if you can change how DropBox displays but it may not
matter except as something you just want to do. It appears you can do
everything you want working with the folder itself, add or delete files and
folders, share and send links to files and folders, and anything else you
usually do.
Its interesting that this solution works.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Hi
Gene, At this point, I don't care. I'll get help to fix the dingdong dropbox. I thought I had lost access to my files. I'm just glad I can access them! Ann P. Original message: > But will that help? Since you are working with the folder on the hard > drive using Windows Explorer, if you open the context menu, will you > see any of the options you see when in the actual DropBox interface > such as copy link? > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jaffar Sidek <mailto:jaffar.sidek10@...> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 10:23 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] extremely upset > Anne. Go to your c:\user\name,, Anne or Parsons if you name your pc > thus, and navigate to your dropbox folder. Your files should all be > there. Cheers! > On 7/15/2019 9:02 PM, Ann Parsons wrote: >> Morning all, >> I use DropBox to save my files. I have important files in there like >> my students' files. >> Warning! Warning!! Warning!! DropBox is now touting a new and >> improved desktop app that is supposed to make it possible to sync your >> stuff with all the crap that's out there like google drive and one >> drive and icloud and so on and on. The interface is a bunch of >> buttons that don't work. I have tried on win7 and win10. It says >> that I'm supposed to be seeing a list, but I'm not seeing one. I >> can't access my folders. >> I just sent a blistering message to DropBox, and they probably won't >> answer me because right now I'm extremely emotional about this. I'm >> being paid to tutor students, and I can't do that if I can't access >> their folders and the info I need. I hope somebody who has some clout >> can jump on these people and do considerable damage to them. If they >> have a new interface, then it's got to be accessible, and right now it >> isn't. I'm so mad I could jump up and down on my roof and scream! I >> don't suppose anyone can help me? >> Ann P. > -- > Pictures paint a thousand words; > Melodies paint a thousand dreams; > Music paints a thousand worlds; > Movies light up fantasy screens. > -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@... Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: extremely upset
Ann Parsons
Hi Gene,
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At this point, I don't care. I'll get help to fix the dingdong dropbox. I thought I had lost access to my files. I'm just glad I can access them! Ann P. Original message:
But will that help? Since you are working with the folder on the hard drive using Windows Explorer, if you open the context menu, will you see any of the options you see when in the actual DropBox interface such as copy link? From: Jaffar Sidek <mailto:jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com> On 7/15/2019 9:02 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:Morning all, I use DropBox to save my files. I have important files in there like Warning! Warning!! Warning!! DropBox is now touting a new and I just sent a blistering message to DropBox, and they probably won't Ann P. -- --
Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: extremely upset
Ann Parsons
Hi all,
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Jiffar, bless you and your family to all generations! You've just saved me! Thank you so much! Ann P. Original message:
Anne. Go to your c:\user\name,, Anne or Parsons if you name your pc On 7/15/2019 9:02 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:Morning all, I use DropBox to save my files. I have important files in there like Warning! Warning!! Warning!! DropBox is now touting a new and I just sent a blistering message to DropBox, and they probably won't Ann P. -- --
Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: extremely upset
Ann Parsons
Hi all,
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No, I didn't get any question, or if I did I didn't notice it. I'll play around with it some more and see what I can do. Ann P. Original message:
Here is more information and a question. From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@gmail.com> I have a possible suggestion that might help but in a somewhat inconvenient manner. From: Ann Parsons <mailto:akp@sero.email> I use DropBox to save my files. I have important files in there like Warning! Warning!! Warning!! DropBox is now touting a new and improved I just sent a blistering message to DropBox, and they probably won't Ann P. -- "All that is gold does not glitter, --
Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: How do I unlock a Cricket GSM iphone?
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Consumer Cellular and Cricket are MVNO's of AT&T! I don't believe any
unlocking needs to be done in that regard since it's practically the same network. That said, if you purchased your toy outright, you ought to be able to GET AN UNLOCK CODE from Cricket. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado
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Re: extremely upset
Gerald Levy
Well, my techie friend spent two hours trying to restore the start menu search box using all kinds of advanced techie tricks well beyond my scope of expertise, some of which weren't even screen reader accessible, but in the end, nothing worked.?? Soe I said, screw this, and wound up installing Classic Shell, and now I have a working search box again. But he did manage to fix an annoying problem that cropped up after the update that other Windows 10 users have reported.?? Normally, the Windows Defender system tray icon reports, "no actions needed".?? But after the update, it changed to?? "recommended actions", even though Defender reported no threats detected.?? He found some obscure setting in Windows Defender that had been altered by the update,fixed it, and now the icon has been restored to the normal "no actions needed". So you never know what a Windows update will break.
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???????? Gerald
On 7/15/2019 11:38 AM, chris judge wrote:
Interesting though. I updated both my desktop computers, as well as my laptop, plus a host of client computers, and have not had an issue with the start menu search field.
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