----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:30:17 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Direct Link To Google Mail Help For Pop and Imap

Here is the direct link for GMail and setting up pop or Imap accounts.

https://support.google.com/mail/topic/3398031?hl=en&ref_topic=339
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On 11/18/15, Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I use Office 365 with Jaws. I also have NVDA on the system although I am
only beginning to learn it as a backup and for teaching purposes.

I have been using both Office 365 2013 and 2016 very successfully with Jaws
16 and 17 including Outlook.

While there are always going to be a few accessibility issues as with every
application as intense as Office the progress is ongoing and positive.
Every
now and then a bug is discovered and fixed, Or a work around is utilized in
hopes that a fix for a bug comes from either Microsoft or Freedom
Scientific. However, there are no more accessibility issues with Jaws than
with NVDA or window Eyes. Sometimes they are the same and sometimes they
are
different bugs.

I use Outlook, word, and Excel daily. And I use them cross-platform meaning
I sync my documents using drop box and One drive across my PC and my iPhone
so I can be working on a document at home and continue working while away
from home as if I never stopped.

I totally enjoy the flexibility that Outlook provides with making rules and
managing lots of email and other personal information.

Hope that helps'

Merv





From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:49 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] office 365



Ok, might break down and get office 365 . I not a big fan of subscriptions
but might try it.

So any office 365 users out there how is the accessibility in it compared
to
office 2010 ? Especially outlook.





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com <mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com>

From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:49 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] office 365

 

Ok, might break down and get office 365 . I not a big fan of subscriptions but might try it.

So any office 365 users out there how is the accessibility in it compared to office 2010 ? Especially outlook.

 

 

Matt.from.florida@...

 

----- Original Message -----
From: A.Mac <a.mcaneney@ntlworld.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A few WIFI questions

hi, i use to use u-tunnel.

Sent from a Braille Sense

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:38 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
So, you have your blueyonder.co.uk account added to outlook. In other words, you don't use the web version. Thought of adding GMAIL to outlook, as well? If so, can you both send and receive through GMAIL with outlook?

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:32 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. Well, I did say I need help for dummies and now I'm confused because I
don't know what you mean by "Just put it in Outlook or the Apple mail
client." Just to add to the confusion a new development has occurred. This
new email list was created last Saturday. The owner subd me at his end but
I got no mail, and of course, couldn't send mail. He then subd me with my
Gmail address and I was able to get mail and send mail that way, and I have
to go to Gmail to access any mail. I'm not an experienced Gmail user, not
yet anyway. He sent me the posting address and via my outlook 2007 client I
sent a test message to see what kind of response I'd get from the server but
there was nothing at all. I went back to Gmail around 40 minutes later to
explain what my ISP had to say about the situation (they had nothing to say
because they are not blocking anything and there is no reason they say why
I'm having this trouble) and I found that test message was there. So I
tried again from Outlook and that message got to the list but I didn't get a
copy in outlook. I did in Gmail. So I don't really understand why 1 I can
post via outlook and it seems to get there via Gmail but 2. mail posted by
others appear in Gmail but isn't appearing in my outlook in box. Talk about
confused, a night's sleep hasn't made things any clearer. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 November 2015 21:06
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
I'm kinda confused, so forgive me why not just put it into outlook, or the
apple mail client?

Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors.

On 17 Nov 2015, at 6:51 p.m., Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:



Hi folks. OK, I'll try and keep this simple. I've joined a new
sharing list but I couldn't sub with my current ISP, they must see it as
spam or something. However when I got an iPhone and in order to use Google
Maps, I had to create a Google account and by default, I have a Google Mail
address and I have been subd using that address. The problem I have is when
I got the Google mail account, I never intended using Google mail but it
seems now I have no choice. Therefore, can anybody help me with using
Google Mail. It has been said to me it is dead simple but I've yet to
discover that. I don't know how to reply to a mail, I don't know how to
delete an email, I've no clue how to get to my drafts folder etc. It is a
lot easier to use the iPhone but much of the stuff I'll need to do is via
the computer. I use Win7 and Jaws16, or 15, I have both on the PC. Help
now and in the future will be appreciated. Walter.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] More W10 questions

Well have not tried that one yet. But mail on W10 stinks. Thunderbird is not
much better. I guess this is from using outlook for so long.
So any one know if there is any way to use outlook Express on W10? If so
Where in the world would you get it from?


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Marie [mailto:magpie.mn@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:28 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] More W10 questions

I have been using WLM for at least 5 years, it is free and I find it very
easy to use.
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:45 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] More W10 questions

Outlook2016 did not know there was one I thought 2013 was the latest. But
looking for something Free if possible.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Armando Vias [mailto:armando.l.vias@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 6:38 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] More W10 questions

Well, there is outlook 2016 that will probably run on Windows 10.
I haven't tried Windows 10.
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On 11/18/15, Matt <matt.from.florida@gmail.com> wrote:

You can do this if you are not doing a dual boot but if doing dual boot you
will need sited help. You can use Carlos talking OS installer but just in
case there you might still want to have sited help just in case.





<mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com> Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Monica Jones [mailto:coffeegal57@att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:40 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion



Since everyone seems to be upgrading to Windows Ten without sighted
assistance, I thought I might bite the bullet and try it too. I see an
option in my sys tray that says upgrade, but I’ve had some say to get some
kind of tool from Microsoft in order to do it. Thanks for advice and/or
instructions.

Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52

Facebook, Monica Rose Jones

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage [mailto:wpr@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:32 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. I'm using outlook 2007 with Jaws 15 or 16, I have both on my system.
Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 10:04
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi, is this agmail account? You are trying to setup in outlook? If so what
version of outlook do you have?


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage [mailto:wpr@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:00 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. Vaguely, the port numbers confuse me. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 09:52
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
OK, have you found how to add an account within outlook? While I don't have
outlook, in shape or form, I might be able to help.

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:49 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. My ISP is Virgin Media, Blue Yonder is a Virgin Media domain and
for some reason I can send to the list from my email client, Outlook
2007 but

I

don't know what to do , or how to do it so my Gmail mail (incoming)
will appear in my outlook in box.. Hmm, I see myself as a tech dummy
in this regard but I think I've been too complementary towards myself.

Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 09:39
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
So, you have your blueyonder.co.uk account added to outlook. In other

words,

you don't use the web version. Thought of adding GMAIL to outlook, as

well?

If so, can you both send and receive through GMAIL with outlook?

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:32 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. Well, I did say I need help for dummies and now I'm confused

because

I

don't know what you mean by "Just put it in Outlook or the Apple
mail client." Just to add to the confusion a new development has

occurred.

This

new email list was created last Saturday. The owner subd me at his
end

but

I got no mail, and of course, couldn't send mail. He then subd me
with

my

Gmail address and I was able to get mail and send mail that way, and
I

have

to go to Gmail to access any mail. I'm not an experienced Gmail
user,

not

yet anyway. He sent me the posting address and via my outlook 2007

client

I

sent a test message to see what kind of response I'd get from the
server

but

there was nothing at all. I went back to Gmail around 40 minutes
later

to

explain what my ISP had to say about the situation (they had nothing
to

say

because they are not blocking anything and there is no reason they
say

why

I'm having this trouble) and I found that test message was there.
So I tried again from Outlook and that message got to the list but I
didn't

get

a

copy in outlook. I did in Gmail. So I don't really understand why
1 I

can

post via outlook and it seems to get there via Gmail but 2. mail
posted

by

others appear in Gmail but isn't appearing in my outlook in box.
Talk

about

confused, a night's sleep hasn't made things any clearer. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 November 2015 21:06
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
I'm kinda confused, so forgive me why not just put it into outlook,
or

the

apple mail client?

Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors.

On 17 Nov 2015, at 6:51 p.m., Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>

wrote:

Hi folks. OK, I'll try and keep this simple. I've joined a new
sharing list but I couldn't sub with my current ISP, they must see
it as spam or something. However when I got an iPhone and in order
to use

Google

Maps, I had to create a Google account and by default, I have a
Google

Mail

address and I have been subd using that address. The problem I have
is

when

I got the Google mail account, I never intended using Google mail
but it seems now I have no choice. Therefore, can anybody help me
with using Google Mail. It has been said to me it is dead simple
but I've yet to discover that. I don't know how to reply to a mail,
I don't know how to delete an email, I've no clue how to get to my
drafts folder etc. It is

a

lot easier to use the iPhone but much of the stuff I'll need to do
is

via

the computer. I use Win7 and Jaws16, or 15, I have both on the PC.

Help

now and in the future will be appreciated. Walter.



________________________________

Avast logo <http://www.avast.com/> This email has been checked for
viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com/>

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-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo Morales [mailto:pablocmd2014@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:16 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

Well, really I should say that accessibility is not a priority for companies as a size like Microsoft or apple, or sum micro systems, or for Compuware, or HP, or Dell, and so on.
Why?
Because accessibility is a new term for a lot of people. Today a lot of people working in the software development world, doesn't know what is accessibility, or universal design.
It is changing, little bit by little bit, but it is changing.
The law, more people with desabilities working, more people with desabilities with professional career. It is not going to be nice and perfect in a couple of weeks, maybe no in a couple of month either. But it is changing. Just compare today and accessibility 20 years ago.
Come on guys, more positive
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:28 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

I'm not sure that I would have phrased it quite so harshly, but I tend to agree. Even when Apple receives so much praise for their efforts to include and improve accessibility I laugh. Huge companies like Apple and Microsoft don't care about accessibility for it's own sake. Apple only cares because it has become a selling point for them. They just happened to get there first. If Microsoft had been the company with the initiative to jump on the accessibility bandwagon, they would be the ones receiving all the praise now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?


I have to agree with marie here. MS don't care at all about accessibility. The fact that they included bits and peaces of other access options for other disibilitys don't mean that they really care.
It just look good from the outside and they get people to believe that they are good because they give you a stupid help desk to answer your so called accessibility questions. What a sick joke, is that how much they care? Lets not forgot what unwise desitions they made when moved from windows mobile6.5 up then it was not even possible for CodeFactory any longer to keep developing mobile speak for windows.
The changes they made to narrator in the past few years, the fact that they did not include a talking instal or any other access option for
win10 and other signs of red lights shows me clearly that they are not intrested at all in being committed to accessibility of any kind for any group. They would sertinly let jaws die if they were to took it over.

On 18/11/2015, Marie <magpie.mn@gmail.com> wrote:

I personally hope MS never takes over any of the commercial screen
readers including NVDA because I don’t believe they would put enough
importance on it to give us anywhere near the performance we now
enjoy. I primarily use Jaws but NVDA keeps improving and is coming on
strong. Long live the commercial screen reader!!
Marie


From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:03 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

Microsoft would have to put significant effort into screen reader
development to match what is currently available in functionality. I
don't see that happening anytime soon and if they ever wanted to
include a fully fledged screen reader, it would probably make more
sense to throw their support into an existing project like NVDA.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald Levy
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?


According to Mike Calvo, co-founder of Serotek,who was a guest on
the Accessible World Tech Talk podcast last evening, Windows 10 is the
greatest thing since sliced bread, and of course, System Access works
better with it than any other screen reader. But he kind of put his
foot in his mouth by proclaiming that commercial screen readers,
including his company’s System Access, will ultimately disappear
because accessibility in Windows 10 will reach the point where
Narrator or some other, yet-to-be developed included screen reader
will be just as good. Does he really believe that commercial screen
readers will go the way of the dinosaur because MS will pay more
attention to accessibility? I certainly don’t think so.

Gerald



From: Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:09 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

As is with most things, this upgrade has a lot to do with visual
presentations that are irrelevant to us. Outside of the very specific
things exclusive to Windows 10 like Cortana and cross platform
continuity I.E.
Tablets and other mobile devices, the advantages per say for us the
average blind computer user on a more functional level are probably
minimal. I’m sure that there are some, but enough to leave the Windows
7 environment? I haven’t found a compelling reason to ditch Windows 7.

Now, my Windows 8.1 machine… I think I’ll do that upgrade once a few
more upgrades are put out by Microsoft and Jaws for a better user
experience. I’m leaving my trusty Windows 7 Dell laptop the way it is
until it finally gives up the ghost.





From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:59 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Yes correct. But don’t see it getting better anytime in the future
so this is a very technology world and I think people must get with it
to an extent.
I think also in the next 50 years this problem will be gone as all the
kids is growing up with technology today.





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:54 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



What the user's responsibility should be and the reality of the
average individual's technical capability or awareness are two different things.

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:49 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Yes, but that is sort of the user responabilty is to find out what
he or she needs to know about their computer and settings and such. We
have to be responabilty for our self and our stuff and how we use it!
Should MS or any company be snooping around on you or opening back
doors to our government or making you do updates to your computer when
you don’t want to or might not need it? No but since most does it is
our responceabilty to keep up to date on things and be responsible.
JST





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:44 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Assuming that you're a user who is even aware of the settings to
defer updates.

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:40 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Yes, but if you have a Pro version you can modify this to an extent.





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:58 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Forced automatic updates have already proven to be a problem for
Windows 10.

What modern hardware does it support which isn't also supported
by Windows 7 that the average user is likely to encounter?

----- Original Message -----

From: enes sarıbaş

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



hi,
advantages of windows 10 over 7
automatic maintenence: Does all maintenence tasks such as
defrag, updates, .net optimisation, time synchronization disk cleanup and more.
As
a result, computer will slow down less.
runs alot faster.
Supports modern hardware
is a free upgrad
is more secure

On 11/17/2015 6:10 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:

Gene, great answer here. My computer is about six months
old, so I guess I’ll upgrade, but I will wait awhile till FS can
support the Edge browser, and I guess the operating system still has
bugs to work out, but it really doesn’t sound like any great shakes of
an operating system, maybe a little better than 7, and much better
than this 8.1 that I now have and don’t like. Smile. Jim

From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 7:50 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

Do you want to use or to play with Cortana? I have no
interest in playing with or using it. Some people may write about
features Windows 10 has that they like but I haven't heard of any that
I care about except the enhanced recovery options Carlos mentioned. I
don't care enough about those to upgrade. How old is your computer
now? One possible reason to upgrade is that support for Windows 7
will stop in 2020. If your computer is rather new, that might be a
reason to upgrade. If your computer is three or four years old now, I
wouldn't put much weight on that reason. Your computer will be seven
or eight years old in 2020 and who knows if, or how long it will
continue to work at that time.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Rawls

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:36 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

I ask this question sincerely, not to just take up space on
the list? And let’s include W8.1 in the question as well. I still
haven’t pulled the trigger on ten yet, and am wondering if it is
really worth it. I know some of you have done this, and by now can
give me a good objective answer.
So please don’t write just because. Smile. Jim

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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 10:04
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi, is this agmail account? You are trying to setup in outlook? If so what
version of outlook do you have?


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage [mailto:wpr@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:00 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. Vaguely, the port numbers confuse me. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 09:52
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
OK, have you found how to add an account within outlook? While I don't have
outlook, in shape or form, I might be able to help.

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:49 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. My ISP is Virgin Media, Blue Yonder is a Virgin Media domain and
for some reason I can send to the list from my email client, Outlook
2007 but

I

don't know what to do , or how to do it so my Gmail mail (incoming)
will appear in my outlook in box.. Hmm, I see myself as a tech dummy
in this regard but I think I've been too complementary towards myself.

Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 09:39
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
So, you have your blueyonder.co.uk account added to outlook. In other

words,

you don't use the web version. Thought of adding GMAIL to outlook, as

well?

If so, can you both send and receive through GMAIL with outlook?

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:32 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. Well, I did say I need help for dummies and now I'm confused

because

I

don't know what you mean by "Just put it in Outlook or the Apple
mail client." Just to add to the confusion a new development has

occurred.

This

new email list was created last Saturday. The owner subd me at his
end

but

I got no mail, and of course, couldn't send mail. He then subd me
with

my

Gmail address and I was able to get mail and send mail that way, and
I

have

to go to Gmail to access any mail. I'm not an experienced Gmail
user,

not

yet anyway. He sent me the posting address and via my outlook 2007

client

I

sent a test message to see what kind of response I'd get from the
server

but

there was nothing at all. I went back to Gmail around 40 minutes
later

to

explain what my ISP had to say about the situation (they had nothing
to

say

because they are not blocking anything and there is no reason they
say

why

I'm having this trouble) and I found that test message was there.
So I tried again from Outlook and that message got to the list but I
didn't

get

a

copy in outlook. I did in Gmail. So I don't really understand why
1 I

can

post via outlook and it seems to get there via Gmail but 2. mail
posted

by

others appear in Gmail but isn't appearing in my outlook in box.
Talk

about

confused, a night's sleep hasn't made things any clearer. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 November 2015 21:06
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
I'm kinda confused, so forgive me why not just put it into outlook,
or

the

apple mail client?

Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors.

On 17 Nov 2015, at 6:51 p.m., Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>

wrote:

Hi folks. OK, I'll try and keep this simple. I've joined a new
sharing list but I couldn't sub with my current ISP, they must see
it as spam or something. However when I got an iPhone and in order
to use

Google

Maps, I had to create a Google account and by default, I have a
Google

Mail

address and I have been subd using that address. The problem I have
is

when

I got the Google mail account, I never intended using Google mail
but it seems now I have no choice. Therefore, can anybody help me
with using Google Mail. It has been said to me it is dead simple
but I've yet to discover that. I don't know how to reply to a mail,
I don't know how to delete an email, I've no clue how to get to my
drafts folder etc. It is

a

lot easier to use the iPhone but much of the stuff I'll need to do
is

via

the computer. I use Win7 and Jaws16, or 15, I have both on the PC.

Help

now and in the future will be appreciated. Walter.



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