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Re: Replying emails with Signatures

Ann Parsons <akp@...>
 

Hi all,
Yes, your signature gets added to replies in Keymail.

Ann P.
gets added.

Ann P.

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Re: Direct Link To Google Mail Help For Pop and Imap

Jujube
 

What was this alll about? I'm just curious.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:30:17 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Direct Link To Google Mail Help For Pop and Imap

Here is the direct link for GMail and setting up pop or Imap accounts.

https://support.google.com/mail/topic/3398031?hl=en&ref_topic=339
6281

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Re: office 365

Blaster
 

I don't use Outlook 2016, However, They seem to have all of the
keyboard shortcut commands needed to make it even more accessible then
using menu's and buttons alone.

Here is a link to all of the keyboard shourtcuts for Outlook 2013 & 2016:
https://support.office.com/en-au/article/Keyboard-shortcuts-for-Microsoft-Outlook-2013-and-2016-3e1090f6-a616-42db-abf5-269ca3d553ee

HTH,
Blaster

On 11/18/15, Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I use Office 365 with Jaws. I also have NVDA on the system although I am
only beginning to learn it as a backup and for teaching purposes.

I have been using both Office 365 2013 and 2016 very successfully with Jaws
16 and 17 including Outlook.

While there are always going to be a few accessibility issues as with every
application as intense as Office the progress is ongoing and positive.
Every
now and then a bug is discovered and fixed, Or a work around is utilized in
hopes that a fix for a bug comes from either Microsoft or Freedom
Scientific. However, there are no more accessibility issues with Jaws than
with NVDA or window Eyes. Sometimes they are the same and sometimes they
are
different bugs.

I use Outlook, word, and Excel daily. And I use them cross-platform meaning
I sync my documents using drop box and One drive across my PC and my iPhone
so I can be working on a document at home and continue working while away
from home as if I never stopped.

I totally enjoy the flexibility that Outlook provides with making rules and
managing lots of email and other personal information.

Hope that helps'

Merv





From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:49 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] office 365



Ok, might break down and get office 365 . I not a big fan of subscriptions
but might try it.

So any office 365 users out there how is the accessibility in it compared
to
office 2010 ? Especially outlook.





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com <mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com>






Re: office 365

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

Hi,

I use Office 365 with Jaws. I also have NVDA on the system although I am only beginning to learn it as a backup and for teaching purposes.

I have been using both Office 365 2013 and 2016 very successfully with Jaws 16 and 17 including Outlook.

While there are always going to be a few accessibility issues as with every application as intense as Office the progress is ongoing and positive. Every now and then a bug is discovered and fixed, Or a work around is utilized in hopes that a fix for a bug comes from either Microsoft or Freedom Scientific. However, there are no more accessibility issues with Jaws than with NVDA or window Eyes. Sometimes they are the same and sometimes they are different bugs.

I use Outlook, word, and Excel daily. And I use them cross-platform meaning I sync my documents using drop box and One drive across my PC and my iPhone so I can be working on a document at home and continue working while away from home as if I never stopped.

I totally enjoy the flexibility that Outlook provides with making rules and managing lots of email and other personal information.

Hope that helps’

Merv

 

 

From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:49 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] office 365

 

Ok, might break down and get office 365 . I not a big fan of subscriptions but might try it.

So any office 365 users out there how is the accessibility in it compared to office 2010 ? Especially outlook.

 

 

Matt.from.florida@...

 


Information about a computer for sale for the person who is looking for a computer

Christina Stolze
 

I got this from another list and I thought of the person from our list who is looking to purchase a computer and that is why I thought to share this.

Hey guys,

I have a ASUS 15 inch 12GB of RAM 1TB hard drive with cd rom drive, HDMI port, 2 USB ports one port is a usb 3 compliant port for sale. It runs windows 10 works beautifully thanks to the upgraded 12 GB of ram inside. Will come with JAWS 16 and JAWS 15 for all of your early computers from windows 8.1 on down. I'm selling because I'm moving everything over to the iPad Air 2. This laptop is very rugged and has no signs of wear and tear on it at all. The screen is brilliant and keys are great. I've put in buffy paint the home, end, insert, page up, and page down keys along the top for easy identification. If you don't want that it just let me know and I'll remove it easily with no scratches to the unit. I'm asking $500 this includes both versions of JAWS. If you want NVDA installed I'll do that as well. JAWS 16 will be installed and so will office 2015. If you have any questions please let me know. I accept PayPal at blindgeek1989@... <mailto:blindgeek1989@...>





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Direct Link To Google Mail Help For Pop and Imap

Ron Canazzi
 

Here is the direct link for GMail and setting up pop or Imap accounts.

https://support.google.com/mail/topic/3398031?hl=en&ref_topic=3396281

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Re: A few WIFI questions

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi,
What's that, exactly?

----- Original Message -----
From: A.Mac <a.mcaneney@ntlworld.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A few WIFI questions



hi, i use to use u-tunnel.


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Re: Google Mail for dummies!

Pamela Dominguez
 

Yes, but he said he doesn't know what that means and how to do it. He doesn't need to be told to do it unless you give him instructions as to how to do it. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:38 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
So, you have your blueyonder.co.uk account added to outlook. In other words, you don't use the web version. Thought of adding GMAIL to outlook, as well? If so, can you both send and receive through GMAIL with outlook?

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:32 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!



Hi. Well, I did say I need help for dummies and now I'm confused because I
don't know what you mean by "Just put it in Outlook or the Apple mail
client." Just to add to the confusion a new development has occurred. This
new email list was created last Saturday. The owner subd me at his end but
I got no mail, and of course, couldn't send mail. He then subd me with my
Gmail address and I was able to get mail and send mail that way, and I have
to go to Gmail to access any mail. I'm not an experienced Gmail user, not
yet anyway. He sent me the posting address and via my outlook 2007 client I
sent a test message to see what kind of response I'd get from the server but
there was nothing at all. I went back to Gmail around 40 minutes later to
explain what my ISP had to say about the situation (they had nothing to say
because they are not blocking anything and there is no reason they say why
I'm having this trouble) and I found that test message was there. So I
tried again from Outlook and that message got to the list but I didn't get a
copy in outlook. I did in Gmail. So I don't really understand why 1 I can
post via outlook and it seems to get there via Gmail but 2. mail posted by
others appear in Gmail but isn't appearing in my outlook in box. Talk about
confused, a night's sleep hasn't made things any clearer. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 November 2015 21:06
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
I'm kinda confused, so forgive me why not just put it into outlook, or the
apple mail client?

Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors.

On 17 Nov 2015, at 6:51 p.m., Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:



Hi folks. OK, I'll try and keep this simple. I've joined a new
sharing list but I couldn't sub with my current ISP, they must see it as
spam or something. However when I got an iPhone and in order to use Google
Maps, I had to create a Google account and by default, I have a Google Mail
address and I have been subd using that address. The problem I have is when
I got the Google mail account, I never intended using Google mail but it
seems now I have no choice. Therefore, can anybody help me with using
Google Mail. It has been said to me it is dead simple but I've yet to
discover that. I don't know how to reply to a mail, I don't know how to
delete an email, I've no clue how to get to my drafts folder etc. It is a
lot easier to use the iPhone but much of the stuff I'll need to do is via
the computer. I use Win7 and Jaws16, or 15, I have both on the PC. Help
now and in the future will be appreciated. Walter.



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1547 Creating a Web Site (Nov. 18, 2015)

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Help for Someone on my group with Powerpoint for Keynote

Armando <armando.l.vias@...>
 

Hi.
Someone needs help usthe Keynote to do powerpoint. Here is the message that he sent me.
"hi
I will be having to create a power-point and I was wondering how to do this using keynote?"

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Re: More W10 questions

Carlos
 

I keep forgetting this point, but according to the author you also have to disable Smart Screen Filter in Windows 8/10 to install Outlook Express.
I don't remember having to do this myself, but it may have already been disabled so I'm not sure.


Re: More W10 questions

Carlos
 

The latest version of Outlook Express for Windows 7 and later requires a donation of $10 to receive installation keys. You can donate and download the installer here,
http://www.runasxp.com/forum-2.html
but you will have to register on the forum to donate and access the download link. There is a captcha which you can resolve with WebVisum/Firefox. Or you can download the last completely free version from my Dropbox.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8dzd63tcftsk0y/oe6_1.6.7.exe?dl=1
The installation is pretty straight forward, but you should make sure to select the installation file, press the Applications key, and choose
"Run as administrator"
from the context menu. Make sure that the
"Patch Protected Storage Service"
checkbox is checked which you will see during the installation process. You should also reboot after the installation is complete. Note that in Windows 10 I received an error about some DLLs not being properly registered or installed, but despite this fact it still worked fine for me at least. If you are running Jaws, you may also want to install my modified Outlook Express scripts.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jhit8i1uiud69q5/OutlookExpressJAWSScripts.zip?dl=1
They will prevent Jaws from using the scripts for Windows Mail as it would do by default which in turn provides better functionality. Instructions for installing the scripts are included in the ReadMe file.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] More W10 questions


Well have not tried that one yet. But mail on W10 stinks. Thunderbird is not
much better. I guess this is from using outlook for so long.
So any one know if there is any way to use outlook Express on W10? If so
Where in the world would you get it from?


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Marie [mailto:magpie.mn@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:28 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] More W10 questions

I have been using WLM for at least 5 years, it is free and I find it very
easy to use.
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:45 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] More W10 questions

Outlook2016 did not know there was one I thought 2013 was the latest. But
looking for something Free if possible.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Armando Vias [mailto:armando.l.vias@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 6:38 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] More W10 questions

Well, there is outlook 2016 that will probably run on Windows 10.
I haven't tried Windows 10.
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Re: A few WIFI questions

A.Mac
 

hi, i use to use u-tunnel.


Re: Windows Ten Confusion

Amy Gordon
 

I have a friend who boughy a desktop computer with windows 10 and she
uses window eyes the free version with outlook express but she knows
nothing about windows 10 and hasn't ever used window eyes. Is there
any books on recording or someone that could help her learn this?
Thanks

On 11/18/15, Matt <matt.from.florida@gmail.com> wrote:
You can do this if you are not doing a dual boot but if doing dual boot you
will need sited help. You can use Carlos talking OS installer but just in
case there you might still want to have sited help just in case.





<mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com> Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Monica Jones [mailto:coffeegal57@att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:40 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion



Since everyone seems to be upgrading to Windows Ten without sighted
assistance, I thought I might bite the bullet and try it too. I see an
option in my sys tray that says upgrade, but I’ve had some say to get some
kind of tool from Microsoft in order to do it. Thanks for advice and/or
instructions.

Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52

Facebook, Monica Rose Jones




office 365

Matt
 

Ok, might break down and get office 365 . I not a big fan of subscriptions but might try it.

So any office 365 users out there how is the accessibility in it compared to office 2010 ? Especially outlook.

 

 

Matt.from.florida@...

 


Creating IceCast Server

Armando <armando.l.vias@...>
 

Hi. I am trying !create a IceCast server !stream. How do I do it witha screen reader?
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Re: Google Mail for dummies!

Matt
 

So is this a Gmail account? I have office 2010 as of now. I can help with
this I think but need to know who you are using for your email service . If
Gmail it is really easy to setup in outlook. Not as easy in 2007 but in 2010
and above it is really easy. It is that in 2007 it don't always detect your
email settings automatically and you have to manual put in the settings. But
this is not hard either.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage [mailto:wpr@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:32 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. I'm using outlook 2007 with Jaws 15 or 16, I have both on my system.
Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 10:04
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi, is this agmail account? You are trying to setup in outlook? If so what
version of outlook do you have?


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage [mailto:wpr@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:00 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. Vaguely, the port numbers confuse me. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 09:52
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
OK, have you found how to add an account within outlook? While I don't have
outlook, in shape or form, I might be able to help.

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:49 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!



Hi. My ISP is Virgin Media, Blue Yonder is a Virgin Media domain and
for some reason I can send to the list from my email client, Outlook
2007 but
I
don't know what to do , or how to do it so my Gmail mail (incoming)
will appear in my outlook in box.. Hmm, I see myself as a tech dummy
in this regard but I think I've been too complementary towards myself.
Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 09:39
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
So, you have your blueyonder.co.uk account added to outlook. In other
words,
you don't use the web version. Thought of adding GMAIL to outlook, as
well?
If so, can you both send and receive through GMAIL with outlook?

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:32 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!



Hi. Well, I did say I need help for dummies and now I'm confused
because
I
don't know what you mean by "Just put it in Outlook or the Apple
mail client." Just to add to the confusion a new development has
occurred.
This
new email list was created last Saturday. The owner subd me at his
end
but
I got no mail, and of course, couldn't send mail. He then subd me
with
my
Gmail address and I was able to get mail and send mail that way, and
I
have
to go to Gmail to access any mail. I'm not an experienced Gmail
user,
not
yet anyway. He sent me the posting address and via my outlook 2007
client
I
sent a test message to see what kind of response I'd get from the
server
but
there was nothing at all. I went back to Gmail around 40 minutes
later
to
explain what my ISP had to say about the situation (they had nothing
to
say
because they are not blocking anything and there is no reason they
say
why
I'm having this trouble) and I found that test message was there.
So I tried again from Outlook and that message got to the list but I
didn't
get
a
copy in outlook. I did in Gmail. So I don't really understand why
1 I
can
post via outlook and it seems to get there via Gmail but 2. mail
posted
by
others appear in Gmail but isn't appearing in my outlook in box.
Talk
about
confused, a night's sleep hasn't made things any clearer. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 November 2015 21:06
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
I'm kinda confused, so forgive me why not just put it into outlook,
or
the
apple mail client?

Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors.

On 17 Nov 2015, at 6:51 p.m., Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:



Hi folks. OK, I'll try and keep this simple. I've joined a new
sharing list but I couldn't sub with my current ISP, they must see
it as spam or something. However when I got an iPhone and in order
to use
Google
Maps, I had to create a Google account and by default, I have a
Google
Mail
address and I have been subd using that address. The problem I have
is
when
I got the Google mail account, I never intended using Google mail
but it seems now I have no choice. Therefore, can anybody help me
with using Google Mail. It has been said to me it is dead simple
but I've yet to discover that. I don't know how to reply to a mail,
I don't know how to delete an email, I've no clue how to get to my
drafts folder etc. It is
a
lot easier to use the iPhone but much of the stuff I'll need to do
is
via
the computer. I use Win7 and Jaws16, or 15, I have both on the PC.
Help
now and in the future will be appreciated. Walter.



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Re: What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

Matt
 

Now yes I can agree with this and yes it is getting better and better! No it is not going to change over mite. Or even in a year or two. But I think you will see a big difference in 25 years or so.
I myself have not been blind that long around 10 years and the accessibility has jump leap and bounds since I first became blind. I sure it really has come a long way in the last 25 years. I suspect it will jump big leap and bounds in the next 25 years.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo Morales [mailto:pablocmd2014@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:16 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

Well, really I should say that accessibility is not a priority for companies as a size like Microsoft or apple, or sum micro systems, or for Compuware, or HP, or Dell, and so on.
Why?
Because accessibility is a new term for a lot of people. Today a lot of people working in the software development world, doesn't know what is accessibility, or universal design.
It is changing, little bit by little bit, but it is changing.
The law, more people with desabilities working, more people with desabilities with professional career. It is not going to be nice and perfect in a couple of weeks, maybe no in a couple of month either. But it is changing. Just compare today and accessibility 20 years ago.
Come on guys, more positive
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:28 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

I'm not sure that I would have phrased it quite so harshly, but I tend to agree. Even when Apple receives so much praise for their efforts to include and improve accessibility I laugh. Huge companies like Apple and Microsoft don't care about accessibility for it's own sake. Apple only cares because it has become a selling point for them. They just happened to get there first. If Microsoft had been the company with the initiative to jump on the accessibility bandwagon, they would be the ones receiving all the praise now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?


I have to agree with marie here. MS don't care at all about accessibility. The fact that they included bits and peaces of other access options for other disibilitys don't mean that they really care.
It just look good from the outside and they get people to believe that they are good because they give you a stupid help desk to answer your so called accessibility questions. What a sick joke, is that how much they care? Lets not forgot what unwise desitions they made when moved from windows mobile6.5 up then it was not even possible for CodeFactory any longer to keep developing mobile speak for windows.
The changes they made to narrator in the past few years, the fact that they did not include a talking instal or any other access option for
win10 and other signs of red lights shows me clearly that they are not intrested at all in being committed to accessibility of any kind for any group. They would sertinly let jaws die if they were to took it over.

On 18/11/2015, Marie <magpie.mn@gmail.com> wrote:
I personally hope MS never takes over any of the commercial screen
readers including NVDA because I don’t believe they would put enough
importance on it to give us anywhere near the performance we now
enjoy. I primarily use Jaws but NVDA keeps improving and is coming on
strong. Long live the commercial screen reader!!
Marie


From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:03 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

Microsoft would have to put significant effort into screen reader
development to match what is currently available in functionality. I
don't see that happening anytime soon and if they ever wanted to
include a fully fledged screen reader, it would probably make more
sense to throw their support into an existing project like NVDA.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald Levy
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?


According to Mike Calvo, co-founder of Serotek,who was a guest on
the Accessible World Tech Talk podcast last evening, Windows 10 is the
greatest thing since sliced bread, and of course, System Access works
better with it than any other screen reader. But he kind of put his
foot in his mouth by proclaiming that commercial screen readers,
including his company’s System Access, will ultimately disappear
because accessibility in Windows 10 will reach the point where
Narrator or some other, yet-to-be developed included screen reader
will be just as good. Does he really believe that commercial screen
readers will go the way of the dinosaur because MS will pay more
attention to accessibility? I certainly don’t think so.

Gerald



From: Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:09 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

As is with most things, this upgrade has a lot to do with visual
presentations that are irrelevant to us. Outside of the very specific
things exclusive to Windows 10 like Cortana and cross platform
continuity I.E.
Tablets and other mobile devices, the advantages per say for us the
average blind computer user on a more functional level are probably
minimal. I’m sure that there are some, but enough to leave the Windows
7 environment? I haven’t found a compelling reason to ditch Windows 7.

Now, my Windows 8.1 machine… I think I’ll do that upgrade once a few
more upgrades are put out by Microsoft and Jaws for a better user
experience. I’m leaving my trusty Windows 7 Dell laptop the way it is
until it finally gives up the ghost.





From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:59 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Yes correct. But don’t see it getting better anytime in the future
so this is a very technology world and I think people must get with it
to an extent.
I think also in the next 50 years this problem will be gone as all the
kids is growing up with technology today.





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:54 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



What the user's responsibility should be and the reality of the
average individual's technical capability or awareness are two different things.

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:49 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Yes, but that is sort of the user responabilty is to find out what
he or she needs to know about their computer and settings and such. We
have to be responabilty for our self and our stuff and how we use it!
Should MS or any company be snooping around on you or opening back
doors to our government or making you do updates to your computer when
you don’t want to or might not need it? No but since most does it is
our responceabilty to keep up to date on things and be responsible.
JST





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:44 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Assuming that you're a user who is even aware of the settings to
defer updates.

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:40 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Yes, but if you have a Pro version you can modify this to an extent.





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:58 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Forced automatic updates have already proven to be a problem for
Windows 10.

What modern hardware does it support which isn't also supported
by Windows 7 that the average user is likely to encounter?

----- Original Message -----

From: enes sarıbaş

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



hi,
advantages of windows 10 over 7
automatic maintenence: Does all maintenence tasks such as
defrag, updates, .net optimisation, time synchronization disk cleanup and more.
As
a result, computer will slow down less.
runs alot faster.
Supports modern hardware
is a free upgrad
is more secure

On 11/17/2015 6:10 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:

Gene, great answer here. My computer is about six months
old, so I guess I’ll upgrade, but I will wait awhile till FS can
support the Edge browser, and I guess the operating system still has
bugs to work out, but it really doesn’t sound like any great shakes of
an operating system, maybe a little better than 7, and much better
than this 8.1 that I now have and don’t like. Smile. Jim

From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 7:50 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

Do you want to use or to play with Cortana? I have no
interest in playing with or using it. Some people may write about
features Windows 10 has that they like but I haven't heard of any that
I care about except the enhanced recovery options Carlos mentioned. I
don't care enough about those to upgrade. How old is your computer
now? One possible reason to upgrade is that support for Windows 7
will stop in 2020. If your computer is rather new, that might be a
reason to upgrade. If your computer is three or four years old now, I
wouldn't put much weight on that reason. Your computer will be seven
or eight years old in 2020 and who knows if, or how long it will
continue to work at that time.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Rawls

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:36 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

I ask this question sincerely, not to just take up space on
the list? And let’s include W8.1 in the question as well. I still
haven’t pulled the trigger on ten yet, and am wondering if it is
really worth it. I know some of you have done this, and by now can
give me a good objective answer.
So please don’t write just because. Smile. Jim





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Re: Google Mail for dummies!

Walter Ramage
 

Hi. I'm using outlook 2007 with Jaws 15 or 16, I have both on my system.
Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 10:04
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi, is this agmail account? You are trying to setup in outlook? If so what
version of outlook do you have?


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage [mailto:wpr@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:00 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hi. Vaguely, the port numbers confuse me. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 09:52
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
OK, have you found how to add an account within outlook? While I don't have
outlook, in shape or form, I might be able to help.

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:49 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!



Hi. My ISP is Virgin Media, Blue Yonder is a Virgin Media domain and
for some reason I can send to the list from my email client, Outlook
2007 but
I
don't know what to do , or how to do it so my Gmail mail (incoming)
will appear in my outlook in box.. Hmm, I see myself as a tech dummy
in this regard but I think I've been too complementary towards myself.
Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 November 2015 09:39
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
So, you have your blueyonder.co.uk account added to outlook. In other
words,
you don't use the web version. Thought of adding GMAIL to outlook, as
well?
If so, can you both send and receive through GMAIL with outlook?

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:32 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!



Hi. Well, I did say I need help for dummies and now I'm confused
because
I
don't know what you mean by "Just put it in Outlook or the Apple
mail client." Just to add to the confusion a new development has
occurred.
This
new email list was created last Saturday. The owner subd me at his
end
but
I got no mail, and of course, couldn't send mail. He then subd me
with
my
Gmail address and I was able to get mail and send mail that way, and
I
have
to go to Gmail to access any mail. I'm not an experienced Gmail
user,
not
yet anyway. He sent me the posting address and via my outlook 2007
client
I
sent a test message to see what kind of response I'd get from the
server
but
there was nothing at all. I went back to Gmail around 40 minutes
later
to
explain what my ISP had to say about the situation (they had nothing
to
say
because they are not blocking anything and there is no reason they
say
why
I'm having this trouble) and I found that test message was there.
So I tried again from Outlook and that message got to the list but I
didn't
get
a
copy in outlook. I did in Gmail. So I don't really understand why
1 I
can
post via outlook and it seems to get there via Gmail but 2. mail
posted
by
others appear in Gmail but isn't appearing in my outlook in box.
Talk
about
confused, a night's sleep hasn't made things any clearer. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 November 2015 21:06
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Mail for dummies!

Hello,
I'm kinda confused, so forgive me why not just put it into outlook,
or
the
apple mail client?

Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors.

On 17 Nov 2015, at 6:51 p.m., Walter Ramage <wpr@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:



Hi folks. OK, I'll try and keep this simple. I've joined a new
sharing list but I couldn't sub with my current ISP, they must see
it as spam or something. However when I got an iPhone and in order
to use
Google
Maps, I had to create a Google account and by default, I have a
Google
Mail
address and I have been subd using that address. The problem I have
is
when
I got the Google mail account, I never intended using Google mail
but it seems now I have no choice. Therefore, can anybody help me
with using Google Mail. It has been said to me it is dead simple
but I've yet to discover that. I don't know how to reply to a mail,
I don't know how to delete an email, I've no clue how to get to my
drafts folder etc. It is
a
lot easier to use the iPhone but much of the stuff I'll need to do
is
via
the computer. I use Win7 and Jaws16, or 15, I have both on the PC.
Help
now and in the future will be appreciated. Walter.



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Re: What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

Pablo Morales
 

Well, really I should say that accessibility is not a priority for companies as a size like Microsoft or apple, or sum micro systems, or for Compuware, or HP, or Dell, and so on.
Why?
Because accessibility is a new term for a lot of people. Today a lot of people working in the software development world, doesn't know what is accessibility, or universal design.
It is changing, little bit by little bit, but it is changing.
The law, more people with desabilities working, more people with desabilities with professional career. It is not going to be nice and perfect in a couple of weeks, maybe no in a couple of month either. But it is changing. Just compare today and accessibility 20 years ago.
Come on guys, more positive
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:28 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

I'm not sure that I would have phrased it quite so harshly, but I tend to
agree. Even when Apple receives so much praise for their efforts to include
and improve accessibility I laugh. Huge companies like Apple and Microsoft
don't care about accessibility for it's own sake. Apple only cares because
it has become a selling point for them. They just happened to get there
first. If Microsoft had been the company with the initiative to jump on the
accessibility bandwagon, they would be the ones receiving all the praise
now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?


I have to agree with marie here. MS don't care at all about
accessibility. The fact that they included bits and peaces of other
access options for other disibilitys don't mean that they really care.
It just look good from the outside and they get people to believe that
they are good because they give you a stupid help desk to answer your
so called accessibility questions. What a sick joke, is that how much
they care? Lets not forgot what unwise desitions they made when moved
from windows mobile6.5 up then it was not even possible for
CodeFactory any longer to keep developing mobile speak for windows.
The changes they made to narrator in the past few years, the fact that
they did not include a talking instal or any other access option for
win10 and other signs of red lights shows me clearly that they are not
intrested at all in being committed to accessibility of any kind for
any group. They would sertinly let jaws die if they were to took it
over.

On 18/11/2015, Marie <magpie.mn@gmail.com> wrote:
I personally hope MS never takes over any of the commercial screen readers
including NVDA because I don’t believe they would put enough importance on
it to give us anywhere near the performance we now enjoy. I primarily use
Jaws but NVDA keeps improving and is coming on strong. Long live the
commercial screen reader!!
Marie


From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:03 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

Microsoft would have to put significant effort into screen reader
development to match what is currently available in functionality. I
don't
see that happening anytime soon and if they ever wanted to include a fully
fledged screen reader, it would probably make more sense to throw their
support into an existing project like NVDA.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald Levy
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?


According to Mike Calvo, co-founder of Serotek,who was a guest on the
Accessible World Tech Talk podcast last evening, Windows 10 is the
greatest
thing since sliced bread, and of course, System Access works better with
it
than any other screen reader. But he kind of put his foot in his mouth by
proclaiming that commercial screen readers, including his company’s System
Access, will ultimately disappear because accessibility in Windows 10 will
reach the point where Narrator or some other, yet-to-be developed included
screen reader will be just as good. Does he really believe that
commercial
screen readers will go the way of the dinosaur because MS will pay more
attention to accessibility? I certainly don’t think so.

Gerald



From: Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:09 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

As is with most things, this upgrade has a lot to do with visual
presentations that are irrelevant to us. Outside of the very specific
things
exclusive to Windows 10 like Cortana and cross platform continuity I.E.
Tablets and other mobile devices, the advantages per say for us the
average
blind computer user on a more functional level are probably minimal. I’m
sure that there are some, but enough to leave the Windows 7 environment? I
haven’t found a compelling reason to ditch Windows 7.

Now, my Windows 8.1 machine… I think I’ll do that upgrade once a few
more
upgrades are put out by Microsoft and Jaws for a better user experience. I’m
leaving my trusty Windows 7 Dell laptop the way it is until it finally
gives
up the ghost.





From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:59 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Yes correct. But don’t see it getting better anytime in the future so
this
is a very technology world and I think people must get with it to an
extent.
I think also in the next 50 years this problem will be gone as all the
kids
is growing up with technology today.





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:54 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



What the user's responsibility should be and the reality of the average
individual's technical capability or awareness are two different things.

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:49 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Yes, but that is sort of the user responabilty is to find out what he
or
she needs to know about their computer and settings and such. We have to
be
responabilty for our self and our stuff and how we use it! Should MS or
any
company be snooping around on you or opening back doors to our government
or
making you do updates to your computer when you don’t want to or might not
need it? No but since most does it is our responceabilty to keep up to
date
on things and be responsible. JST





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:44 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Assuming that you're a user who is even aware of the settings to defer
updates.

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:40 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Yes, but if you have a Pro version you can modify this to an extent.





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:58 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



Forced automatic updates have already proven to be a problem for
Windows 10.

What modern hardware does it support which isn't also supported by
Windows 7 that the average user is likely to encounter?

----- Original Message -----

From: enes sarıbaş

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?



hi,
advantages of windows 10 over 7
automatic maintenence: Does all maintenence tasks such as defrag,
updates, .net optimisation, time synchronization disk cleanup and more.
As
a result, computer will slow down less.
runs alot faster.
Supports modern hardware
is a free upgrad
is more secure

On 11/17/2015 6:10 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:

Gene, great answer here. My computer is about six months old, so
I
guess I’ll upgrade, but I will wait awhile till FS can support the Edge
browser, and I guess the operating system still has bugs to work out, but
it really doesn’t sound like any great shakes of an operating system,
maybe
a little better than 7, and much better than this 8.1 that I now have and
don’t like. Smile. Jim

From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 7:50 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

Do you want to use or to play with Cortana? I have no interest
in
playing with or using it. Some people may write about features Windows 10
has that they like but I haven't heard of any that I care about except the
enhanced recovery options Carlos mentioned. I don't care enough about
those
to upgrade. How old is your computer now? One possible reason to upgrade
is that support for Windows 7 will stop in 2020. If your computer is
rather
new, that might be a reason to upgrade. If your computer is three or four
years old now, I wouldn't put much weight on that reason. Your computer
will be seven or eight years old in 2020 and who knows if, or how long it
will continue to work at that time.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Rawls

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:36 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] What are the advantages of W10 over W7?

I ask this question sincerely, not to just take up space on the
list? And let’s include W8.1 in the question as well. I still haven’t
pulled
the trigger on ten yet, and am wondering if it is really worth it. I know
some of you have done this, and by now can give me a good objective
answer.
So please don’t write just because. Smile. Jim





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