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Re: Clearing a laptop

chris judge
 

When I did it on a dell last year it restored it back to it's factory defaults.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 11:04 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am running 1809 but I would think the process would be the same. So that will erase all my personal information?

Marie


On 9/5/2019 1:50 AM, chris judge wrote:
Hi. I did it about a year ago. Are you using 1903? If so, do the following.
Go to settings.
Go to update and security.
From there, go to recovery.
Tab to reset this pc. Press enter, follow the prompts and all should work fine.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie









Re: Clearing a laptop

M.E.N. <magpie.mn@...>
 

But isn't it possible to do a disk cleanup after the reset and choose to delete  the folder with the old files?

I don't think the person would have any criminal intent but since I don't know them personally, I can't be absolutely positive of that and want to clear as much as possible. I have never done a full install so a little nervous about it.


Marie

On 9/5/2019 5:03 AM, Austin Pinto wrote:
hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has any
criminal tendencies? I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the restore
or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from the
hard drive such as your personal files. If it does what deleting files
usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone who
wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
recover them. There are programs that actually overwrite the information
and make it unrecoverable. I'll let others discuss such programs further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult
is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie












Re: Clearing a laptop

M.E.N. <magpie.mn@...>
 

I am running 1809 but I would think the process would be the same. So that will erase all my personal information?

Marie

On 9/5/2019 1:50 AM, chris judge wrote:
Hi. I did it about a year ago. Are you using 1903? If so, do the following.
Go to settings.
Go to update and security.
From there, go to recovery.
Tab to reset this pc. Press enter, follow the prompts and all should work fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie








Re: Clearing a laptop

 

hi Gene
i will reply to you line by line.
I would expect the Windows old folder can be deleted.  And what are
the ramifications of doing either of these things?  Do you have to
look for drivers, is the effect the same except for the Windows old
folder?
if you do a disk cleanup and then select clean up system files option
this sometimes removes the entire windows.old folder but mostly
removes 75% of it.
if you do a reset or refresh or if you do a clean install you dont
have to look for any driver, windows update does it all for you unless
you have a really really old laptop or desktop.
if you reinstall windows 10 from a dvd when the installer asks for a
product key say i dont have a product key.
you should know which eddition of windows 10 you have.
after telling the installer i dont have a product key select the
eddition of windows 10 which was previously installed on your laptop
and as soon as your laptop connects to internet and checks for updates
windows will request if this laptop was activated before and as the
laptop had a licenced version of windows the servers at microsoft will
activate windows for you.
if you have a laptop which came with windows 8 out of the box it wont
even ask for licence key as the licence key is in the uefi so it will
get the key and select the right eddition from there.
yes some laptops have a restore to factory feature but its totally
inaccessible and we need sighted help and again it may keep the
windows.old folder.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
These are questions and comments I have about the message quoted below
mine.

I would expect the Windows old folder can be deleted. And what are the
ramifications of doing either of these things? Do you have to look for
drivers, is the effect the same except for the Windows old folder? If you
are talking about reinstalling from a copy of Windows, such as on a DvD, if
the only difference is the Windows Old folder, I would think that that would
be more work, and possibly the expense of buying another copy of windows.

Also, I don't use Windows 10 but I suspect that the laptop, aside from
whatever Windows itself provides, has a return to factory state option.
That would seem to me to be the best thing to do so you have the computer In
its factory state, with whatever drivers were on the computer originally and
perhaps whatever proprietary utilities were provided. Then if you want to
get rid of old information, running a program that overwrites the part of
the hard disk not taken up by the operating system.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Austin Pinto
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:03 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop


hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has
any
criminal tendencies? I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the
restore
or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from
the
hard drive such as your personal files. If it does what deleting files
usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone
who
wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
recover them. There are programs that actually overwrite the information
and make it unrecoverable. I'll let others discuss such programs
further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On
Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how
difficult
is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie












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Re: Clearing a laptop

Gene
 

These are questions and comments I have about the message quoted below mine. 
 
I would expect the Windows old folder can be deleted.  And what are the ramifications of doing either of these things?  Do you have to look for drivers, is the effect the same except for the Windows old folder?  If you are talking about reinstalling from a copy of Windows, such as on a DvD, if the only difference is the Windows Old folder, I would think that that would be more work, and possibly the expense of buying another copy of windows. 
 
Also, I don't use Windows 10 but I suspect that the laptop, aside from whatever Windows itself provides, has a return to factory state option.  That would seem to me to be the best thing to do so you have the computer In its factory state, with whatever drivers were on the computer originally and perhaps whatever proprietary utilities were provided.  Then if you want to get rid of old information, running a program that overwrites the part of the hard disk not taken up by the operating system.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has any
> criminal tendencies?  I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the restore
> or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from the
> hard drive such as your personal files.  If it does what deleting files
> usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone who
> wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
> recover them.  There are programs that actually overwrite the information
> and make it unrecoverable.  I'll let others discuss such programs further.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
> Behalf Of M.E.N.
> Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
> To: techtalk@groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop
>
> I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
> running Win 10 1809.
>
> Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
> clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult
> is it?
>
> Thanks for any advise.
>
> Marie
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Clearing a laptop

James Bentley
 

Just curious but, is it possible to delete the Windows .oldfolder?

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: Austin Pinto
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 7:03 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has any
criminal tendencies? I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the restore
or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from the
hard drive such as your personal files. If it does what deleting files
usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone who
wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
recover them. There are programs that actually overwrite the information
and make it unrecoverable. I'll let others discuss such programs further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult
is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie












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Re: Clearing a laptop

 

hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has any
criminal tendencies? I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the restore
or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from the
hard drive such as your personal files. If it does what deleting files
usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone who
wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
recover them. There are programs that actually overwrite the information
and make it unrecoverable. I'll let others discuss such programs further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult
is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie











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Re: Clearing a laptop

Gene
 

Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has any criminal tendencies?  I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the restore or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from the hard drive such as your personal files.  If it does what deleting files usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone who wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can recover them.  There are programs that actually overwrite the information and make it unrecoverable.  I'll let others discuss such programs further. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie









Re: success with Fire Fox

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you are asking about searching.  Control is the command to move you to the address bar to type an address.  You don't need to make Google your home page if you just want to use it for searching and don't care what else is on the page.  Use the command control k and you will be in an area of the window where you type a search and press enter.  You can see, but I believe the default is to search using Google and a page of results will come up.  It will be a Google results page.  If it isn't, if it is something like a Bing results page, that can be changed to Google, but I'd have to look at Firefox to see how to change it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 1:21 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] success with Fire Fox

            Hi Group:


I just wanted to thank you all for helping me with Fire Fox. It's
working great.  I had no trouble downloading and when I launched it, it
asked me if I wanted to make it my default browser and I clicked on it. 
I didn't have to do all of the things that I needed to do for chrome. 
It also reads Facebook just like IE. I'm thrilled about that.  I have
one more question, is there any settings that I need to know about?  I
am very simple.  I just enter web pages by typing in the addresses and I
don't use bookmarks.  I couldn't just hit Control L to search.  It
actually said where to search so I didn't have to type Control L.  Is
there any way I can get rid of that and I can just type it in as
normal?  I never had to set Chrome or IE so just wondered if this was
any different.  This is brand new to me.  Now for my final question,
what are the commands to make google my home page?  I tried the commands
in Chrome but it didn't work.  Thanks again for everything.

Shelly




Re: Chromebook help

Josh Kennedy
 

it is interesting that both chromeBook and iOS have great braille support outside of android apps of course, but that android phone and android tablet braille support are horrible. I use braille a lot, so iOS and windows are my platforms of choice for braille. I started unloading apps off my android phone because I find most times their iOS equivalents work better for me. a few apps I keep on my android phone though, just for convenience. 


Re: Think Twice Before Installing the Latest Windows 10 Update

Josh Kennedy
 

Or depending on what you do with your computer, maybe just get an iPad for $250 off amazon? I got an iPod touch and find that voiceover is much more stable and snappier than talkback is. So my android phone will be just for phone calls, texting, maybe facebook and messenger and I will use the iPod for everything else including games. 


Re: purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

Michael Rodgerson
 

Austin, that's fine I'm up late anyway. What time would work for you?


Michael


Re: Chromebook help

Michael Rodgerson
 

Thank you, I know I was at that class.


Michael


Re: Clearing a laptop

chris judge
 

Hi. I did it about a year ago. Are you using 1903? If so, do the following.
Go to settings.
Go to update and security.
From there, go to recovery.
Tab to reset this pc. Press enter, follow the prompts and all should work fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie


Re: Chromebook help

chris judge
 

FYI. Mystic access just did an excellent, free class on using the chrome
book. It's called "a world of chromebooks", and is available on their
website at:
www.mysticaccess.com. Go to their free downloads link. They are also in the
process of producing a full-fledged tutorial covering the chrome book. This
will be available on September 16. If you've ever used their tutorials you
will know they are very well done.

I purchased an acer chrome book last week. It has 4 gig of ram, which is
standard, and 64 gig of storage. It's kind of cool. I'm not sure if I'll
ever replace my windows pc with one, but they're great to have as they are
light and easy to toss in an overnight bag while travelling. Aside from
surfing the net and email, you can do word processing, spread sheets and
slide presentations using the google suite. Also, some of the android apps
will run on them. I have already installed Netflix, spotify and dolphin easy
reader.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: September 5, 2019 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chromebook help

For help with the Chrome Book, you should probably consider joining the
ChromeVox mailing list at:

chromevox-discuss+subscribe@googlegroups.com

I've thought of grabbing a Chrome Book, but my twisted mind can't zero-in on
which brand to throw a stone at. I keep leaning much more towards tablets
purely for business purposes.

Sorry for nudging you towards another mailing list and I hope the folks
there will address your issues clearly.,

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

 

i could do that but the time difference between the time zones will be
to much im from India.

On 9/5/19, Michael Rodgerson <monex249@gmail.com> wrote:
Austin, I can teach you voiceover, lessons would be 20 dollars for a
half hour lesson. I take Paypal. Give me a call (3866894316) I am on
the east coast.


Michael



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Re: purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

Michael Rodgerson
 

Austin, I can teach you voiceover, lessons would be 20 dollars for a
half hour lesson. I take Paypal. Give me a call (3866894316) I am on
the east coast.


Michael


purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

 

hi all.
so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad mini.
he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.
i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to practice voice so
that i can purchase the ipad for me also.
so i am going to ask a lot of questions.
1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?
2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with that of talkback?
3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover jestures?
4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more about voiceover.


success with Fire Fox

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Group:


I just wanted to thank you all for helping me with Fire Fox. It's working great.  I had no trouble downloading and when I launched it, it asked me if I wanted to make it my default browser and I clicked on it.  I didn't have to do all of the things that I needed to do for chrome.  It also reads Facebook just like IE. I'm thrilled about that.  I have one more question, is there any settings that I need to know about?  I am very simple.  I just enter web pages by typing in the addresses and I don't use bookmarks.  I couldn't just hit Control L to search.  It actually said where to search so I didn't have to type Control L.  Is there any way I can get rid of that and I can just type it in as normal?  I never had to set Chrome or IE so just wondered if this was any different.  This is brand new to me.  Now for my final question, what are the commands to make google my home page?  I tried the commands in Chrome but it didn't work.  Thanks again for everything.

Shelly


Clearing a laptop

M.E.N. <magpie.mn@...>
 

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie

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